Film Sack
Film Sack 684: Spy Game
This week on the Film Sack podcast, Spy Game! It's a tense espionage thriller starring Robert Redford and Brad Pitt. As CIA veteran Nathan Muir prepares for retirement, he learns his protégé, Tom Bishop, has been captured in China during an unauthorized mission. Facing agency indifference, Muir recounts their shared past while secretly devising a daring plan to rescue Bishop. The film explores loyalty, betrayal, and the personal toll of espionage through a blend of sharp dialogue and gripping action.
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- Duration:
- 1h 51m
- Broadcast on:
- 29 Dec 2024
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Call Quiz at illmaukeyage.com/quiz. That's i-l-m-a-k-i-g-e.com/quiz. Told you you'd miss it. Who do you trust in military intelligence? I co-signed Martha Rayburn's Car Law. Simple at us, I gotta buy some time here. I'm gonna need the imagery and analysis for a military to prison their suit chow. And if you use the phone, don't use these. Any chance I could lose my job over this? Good. I didn't want to work for Andy Younger anyway. We need the press on this like we need a third tit. This is Romesack. Well, hello there, and welcome to the final episode of Film Sack for the year 2024. I'm Scott Johnson. We're reminding the very depths of film entertainment for all mankind. Joining us also, Brian, ever experience a good Vaseline electrocution done away? Oh, once a day, at least. Oh hi. Nice. This week on Film Sack, we take a mental picture of the room. One hot hostess, check. One oddly shaped man in the reflection of a coffee pot, check. Still waiting on my 12-year-old Scottish to arrive so I can stomach the spy game, check. More like a boring-ass job game that involves paperwork, meetings, phone calls, more paperwork, and at least one fax. You know what? Screw that. Just throw me into a Chinese prison for a friendly two-hour beating after we dash across the war-torn streets of Netflix to dine out this 2001 action thriller asset now blowing ridiculously sized bubbles from the shut-up already. Do you want to get us caught chewing gum? We game them. Damn it, guy. That was chewing gum. Not bubble gum. Anywho. I think I just gave you four pieces of personal information for one dubious impersonal fact. One, you're straight until you're by. Two, your ex-wives are fiction. Three, you weren't invited to the retirement party. And four, puke pills are best shaken, not stirred. Randy? Randy, you really put the ass in asset. One of a cup later? Puke pills. Oh my gosh. I hated that thing. Puke pills. He was shaking the shit out of those things. We also have with us Randy. I really appreciate it the time he tossed me a stick of fruity gum in torture prison, Jordan. Aloha, Scott. Brian. Thanks for coming to this room where we talk while being recorded by four or five different real to real tape recorders. Do we really need that many? I mean, couldn't we just have one and a backup and then make duplicates of what we record? And where are all the microphones for these different devices? This room makes no sense. And then you go to the Far East and it's like it's always night and you go to the Middle East and everything looks yellow and brown and white. What's happening? Why do you think so different in our world? I don't understand. We go outside here in Virginia and everything's washed out. What's happening? You know what? Let's just call it amazing. What an amazing world we live in. So now you're ready to fix everything without ever leaving this building as long as you follow these three rules. Number one, I guess you need to make sure that everything everyone knows about you as a lie. So so much so that they can't give you a birthday gift on your birthday. So that when they do give you a really nice flask, for instance, it's never mentioned or seen again. Number two, if you're ever confronted by an unexpected witness, simply throw gum to him. And if he likes how it smells, you get to move on to the next mini boss. Number three, it's easy to get what you want by simply stealing it. Just walk into anyone's office and take what you want. Agent Ibit here got his virginity taken that way. True. That's true. Can confirm. Also speaking of which, it probably has audio of it. That's right. Someplace. Hey, look, it's Brian. There sure is a lot of MCU and Game of Thrones and gladiator connections in this Ibit. I don't know. Boy, are there. Yeah. I'm Brad Pitt and the MCU too. Well, we're at it. So it's end of year, guys, and do you guys want to take yes? So we've had some roundtables, but do you want to take a guess as to how many movies we've watched this year? Oh, my gosh. Guesswork. That's a 52. It is less than 52. That's good. Yep. I'm going to say 43. 43. Oh, my gosh. One of you said, Randy said 45. You said 43. 47. 44. Wow. Damn it. So let's do 88 lines, about 44 movies. Flynn lived in a video game. He and Tron were on the run. El Mariachi at Desperado, his guitar case is full of guns. Ghost Dog fought a town of gangsters feeding pigeons on the roof. Scott paid basketball for his high school. Was a werewolf loved to poof. Porter was a former Marine. He got payback with a bomb and a phone. Michael barely saw a perdition and nearby farmhouse was his home. Halcy shouldn't pick up pitchers, found a finger in his fries. Chev was an adrenaline junkie, had to crank or he would die. Sebastian barely saw the zombies, let an army cracking safes, Peyton's lab was bold pieces, wore bandaged hide his face, Wilbur and his chainsaw brother found a whole new bunch of teens. Hathaway was a black hat hacker made body armor from magazines. Alex was a kind clairvoyant puppet, tried to kill him dead. Baby was a getaway driver, headphones always on his head. Robin and his merry men took on the role of Loxie's life. James bought a painting in a store turned out to look just like his wife. Remo Williams began adventures parkour on Lady Liberty. Murphy had a robo body, clean Detroit of OCP. Terence was a super-sneeper the color red could make him weak, Omega Doom found robs and robots duked it out on a future brute. Cowboy Jake had a shootout fight, aliens in New Mexico, Sam but Wakey found transformers Allspark just made him say no, Otto was a repo punter drinking cans of generic beer. Gordon was a hockey coach, taught the ducks to have no fear. His guys shirt looked alike. Owen was a mama's boy, she said he didn't have a friend. Megan had a feeble stalker, her blue steel got him in the end. Jake was stationed in Vietnam, took the intruder for a flight, close it out to a inches daughter. That foreigner sure knows how to fight. Tony was a Cuban gangster, snorting mountains of cocaine. McLean fought bad guys in the airport, Yibi Ka blew up a plane. Rudy just got out of prison, reindeer games were not his plan. Rudy watched from his high tower, keeping great whites off the sand. Trey was living in the hood, saw his boys get shot and kill. Brian's daughter, she got taken, he had to use his special skills. Trey was living in the burbs, accused his neighbors of homicide, Joe is a cop in Hollywood, but he did guilty on the side, and it rode to Silverado, Sheriff's badge is what he got. Mears was a novel writer, found himself in Salem's lot. Police Muteven climbed a tour bus, had a shootout in a mall. Max and Leo found the jungle firewalker, let them to a brawl. Electric came back from the dead, fighting ninjas from the hand. Brody spent his time with noodles, like Godzilla in Japan. James Bond was a secret agent, had a wife and watched her die. Nathan played his spy games well, hanging assets out to dry. 88 lines about 44 movies. Wow. You know what surprises me, I thought they would be completely in order, but it changed up. Oh gosh, being able to come up with rhymes. Jesus, that's so many movies, that's a lot of movies, and hopefully you can figure out some of them. I didn't put the name in, secretly put the name in a couple of them, but some of them don't. Have you been working on that all year? Or did you do that on the same month you had to do your special and everything else? I did that on the same day, I recorded my special Friday and started writing this yesterday. Friday and then finished it yesterday. Well if we conservatively say, 44 movies are an average of an hour and a half, 90 minutes each, which is way conservative, I'm sure they're more. We watch 66 hours of films this year, think of that, just for the show, yeah, just for the show. Yeah, yeah, yeah, and we've all seen plenty of other movies. So I don't know, I don't know if I want to know that a slash played on any of this. This is why my algorithm on Netflix is so bad. Yeah. Excluding spy game, let's just exclude spy game for a moment. What was your favorite movie that we watched and sacked in 2024? Start with Scott. Oh gosh. Well, now I can, can I answer for Scott? Do answer for me. Baby driver. Oh yeah, yeah, that's true. Actually. No, you nailed it. And I'm glad you did that because I was really scrambling to remember everything again, even though you just said it all in a song. Yeah, I think that that was it. I think that one surprised me the most. It's also the one I waited the longest to see. I think we knew we were watching something good because nobody was under illusions that this egg right film is going to be bad or anything, but I came away from that enjoying it so much that I immediately turned around and Kim and I watched it again. I think I've seen it three times now, total sense. I'd love that movie. So yeah. We're going away and guess the burbs course, that's about to say why you even asking next. Of course. Finally got my friends to watch my favorite movie of all time. I mean, come on. Yeah. Dante. Dante. Don't wait. Guess for guess for. I'm ready because I don't think I should. I know. Oh, make it do my game because he just watched it this week. Yeah. We had excluded though. He said excluding spy. Oh, I would put that up in the top five though. I would too. I might put it in second place. It's hard for me not to say baby driver as well because I love that movie before. That was one, you know, kind of like a done away, it's like I wanted all my friends to see baby driver. Yeah. And that movie was so good. Gosh dang it. It's how I felt about payback for a long time. Oh, yeah. It was just this thing that came along when I was, you know, completely full of testosterone and young and just like every, every clever line really hit me just right. And so then I was actually a bit nervous when we sacked it because like I was like, oh, no. What if, what if either I don't like it that much now or like one of you guys just hates this movie, but for me, it holds up so well. It's such a, you know, it's just so, it's just so fun for me. Yeah. That was pretty good. I, there's a lot this year. I actually really liked this year. Road to prediction. Oh, road to predictions are my favorite movies ever. So that's up. That's way up there for sure. That's the one that has stuck with me the most like any year of film sack. You have movies that you've never seen before. And then you're like, I don't remember what we watched. We watched some, something, super fuzz or whatever super. I don't remember it. Super fuzz. I forgot to completely erase daughters of Satan from my mind. Oh, yeah. Good job. Congratulations. I, I erased that. We just in August saw Transformers. That's not even in my memory. I don't remember doing that. It's not either. I don't remember doing Transformers at all. In fact, when I saw it in Quicksack, I went, ooh, did we watch the cartoon? And I forgot. No, we watched the shitty, the shitty first live action one is what we did. What I find really funny about the first time when it sticks with you is what sticks with you. Because I was, I was at work about a month ago and I was talking to several people and none of them had seen the movie. And I've only seen it once now and it was months and months ago and I'm like, oh, you know that Tom Hanks movie where he's a gangster in the Quad Cities? I know Quad Cities, right? And then he heads into Illinois towards Chicago and he's like fighting against a guy who was pretending to be a police photographer. Yeah. And they're all looking at me like Tom Hanks was in a gangster movie, no shut up. Yeah. And it's like, no, but what stuck with me was the, that sort of unique, there's some like unique things about it, you know? And I just, I always wonder if that's the same for you guys. If you watch a movie on film sack for the first time and then months later, you're like remembering details. Oh, for sure. Especially when it's like, like it's, we had a two, we had a two week banger. I'd seen Silverado 400 times before, but I love seeing it again. We saw that on in March and the very next week we saw Ghost Dog the Way of the Samurai. That one stuck with me. That one I still think about. Yeah. Yeah. Something else, I thought. And it really washed away the bad taste of things like Hollywood Homicide and Electra. Yes. All that. All that. For me, the two... Yeah. How much did they miss you? Yeah. This year our two week banger for me was Mighty Ducks and Scarface back to back. Oh, yeah. And it's just, I was, I, I don't know. I was in a place where I hadn't seen those movies and I really, I don't think I'd ever seen Scarface and, and a bunch of, I don't know, there's a bunch of like details that really stuck with me. Like people, people tried really hard when making those movies. Well, it took us a year and a week to see Robert Redford movies between each other. So we saw almost a year ago, a little longer than a year ago. Or the conqueror, the... Three days of the flight, three days of the flight of the con indoors. Right. Five of the con doors, yeah. We saw that basically a year ago and that felt like yesterday. So my timeline's almost up. And here in Brian's song, it was like, wait a minute, when do we, because obviously they were out of order, but it just was throwing me like, feels like reindeer games happened a year ago. And that was two weeks ago or a week ago. Was it last week? Yeah. It was, we got reindeer games. It was last week. It was the last week. Watch the nose. We were watching games games back to go. See, that's effed up in my head. That whole thing. That will come up as an image. I won't even copy and paste in there, bummer. Boo. I have the list, but what's not copying from numbers? No worries. That's actually how I had to do the song. I pulled up the list of movies in based on my songs, the films I carry out these songs and pasted them into a number spreadsheet. And then just made a long field to the right where I wrote a, the description in the format of da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da. Knew the ones that had to have, had to keep their final word. Owen was a mama's boy. She said he didn't have a friend. There was no way I was going to change that one. Had to end with friends. So I needed. So as I was doing these, I'm like, oh, this one I can end with, with something in the end. Great. Cool. I'll pair that one up with, with throw mama from the train. We were a little bit behind the curtain here like this. That's right. Teen Wolf. I knew it wanted to end with Booth. Booth, right? Of course. Yeah. Always end with Booth when you have a chance. Always end with Booth. That's great. Cocaine. Yeah. I couldn't do Tony was a Cuban gangster introduced as to his little friend because I already had, didn't have a friend. Oh, right. I liked your cocaine one. That was good. Yeah. That was great. For those on the YouTube and you're like, what song? Go listen to the podcast. It's on there. All right. Real quick here, we'll let the fake Fletcher explain what movie we saw this week. And you know, we already said the words spy game, but you'll find out again how this all worked out. Here you go. This week on film sex spy game, it's a tins espionage thriller starring Robert Redford and Brad Pitt. As CIA veteran Nathan Muir prepares for retirement, he learns his protege, Tom Bishop has been captured in China during an unauthorized mission facing agency indifference. Muir recounts their shared past while secretly devising a daring plan to rescue Bishop. The film explores loyalty, betrayal, and the personal toll of espionage through a blend of sharp dialogue and gripping action. We miss Tony Scott. Wow. You have a weird turn about halfway through. Yeah. Like you're a British accent impersonator. It sounded like this down and explain it to you. It's like Moira. What's her name from Schitt's Creek doing a doing her weird fake accent. The movie is spy game. It's a movie I hadn't seen. I was very excited to see it because I have a Tony Scott thing where I'll see anything he ever made, even the stuff that people don't like as much. And I had never seen spy game. I keep confusing it with the Brad Pitt Harrison Ford thing called. Where is it? The Devil's Own by the Devil's Own. I kept using it with a movie called Heist with Robert Redford that came out just a few years ago. And that's what that's kind of what I was expecting this was going to be, but really, really enjoyed it. It's great. It's freaking great. It's in my top three or four of the year, for sure. Maybe even my second favorite of the year that we've seen and maybe I'm prone to these ones that I haven't seen yet that are genuinely good and then they just hit me or whatever. But I thought this was freaking fantastic. And it's everything I love about Tony Scott's movies, rest is soul. I wish he was still around doing stuff because he had a of the Scott brothers, right? They kind of had this tag team going where Ridley Scott is all about usually anyway, a high-minded, either historical dramas or deep sci-fi or whatever. It's just a different vibe. And Tony was all like, yeah, what if I just blow shit up and do big, awesome camera shots and what if Top Gun didn't exist in this world? Like can imagine a world with no Top Gun? You can't imagine it. He's just amazing. And I loved this. I thought this was freaking great top to bottom. I really have no point. I now feel like Ridley Scott has these stories to tell and they get punctuated by action. Whereas Tony Scott has style over substance. Tony Scott is like, yes, there is a story to tell, but I'm going to show you so much stylized cinematography and I'm going to fit music to something in a way that it really takes you on a ride. And the substance of it is second in the backseat. It's not, whenever you ask somebody what's your favorite Tony Scott film, you get a lot of the same two answers. You get taking a Pelham 1, 2, 3 and you get Top Gun. And those two movies are really more about what you're seeing and feeling than the actual words coming out of your mind. I kind of agree, but I think it's a sliding scale because you talk about story taking a backseat, but that backseat is leather with heated seats. It's a good story. It's a quality backseat like it's not garbage backseat where we're just shoving everything back there. It's a good story, but he does prioritize the cinematic experience of everything above that and still maintains a decent story. So it's relative, but I agree and I think it works like it's a really great way to tell a story and it's what movies are kind of about in a lot of ways. Like I can watch methodic storytelling at home, but when I'm in a movie theater or I've got headphones on or I'm really into a thing, that's the other thing I want to say about this right out of the gate. This movie has some insane sound work. It's so good. It doesn't feel like it was made 25 years ago. And I know in 2001 we're good at this, but we've seen plenty of movies post 2000 that have had shitty sound work. Can I give you one little thing to do? So good. What's that? I got really tired watching this movie of every time we go to a place I hear music from that place. Yeah. It was one time too many. At first I was like, oh, we must be in the Far East. And then it was like, oh, and then we, late in the movie, we go to the Middle East and I'm hearing Middle Eastern music and I'm like, no, it's too much. A lot of... At least when it was a war, a flashback was a premiere for me. The Vietnam music was not white Vietnam music, but it was good. It was close though. They really did crank in the whatever, the CCR-esque music. Also wasn't this set in the 90s, I have to assume it was set in the 90s because I had not... It's in 91 and flashbacks to 81 and 70s. Okay. Because they never really cleared that up. They wasn't sure on the timeline. Some of those monitors. I hear it's really the big thing that should be the... It was very... That's true. That's true. But like they... It opens with that the current time is 91 and they set that clock for 24 hours, which I love those scenes where it's like, how much longer steel shot black and white on Robert Redford? 845. Yeah. Whatever. Yeah. But I just saw so many CRTs that were not 91 and that annoyed me. I kept seeing the computers where I was just like, nah. It was 10 years later, right? And it was the CIA. Yeah. They have all the good stuff in the future. They're currently looking at displays that are just on the air. It looks like in the theory of displays. Yeah. No, that's all fine though because overall, man, I really liked it. I liked everything about it. I think the... Robert Redford is just a freaking legend and it's awesome to see him in here. But I also really like this era of Brad Pitt a lot. It's just kind of he's, I mean, he's probably what, in his 30s here? Hold on. Let's see. Yeah, that'd be right because he's in his 60s now. In 2000, 2001, just before 9/11, in 2000, let's say. Did we think of Brad Pitt as the new Robert Redford at that time? Um, well, where were we in his career? Let's see. So, has he already worked with his brother on "Thelma and Louise?" I was much earlier though. Mm-hmm. Uh, let's see. Because nowadays, it's just, it's, it's passé. Like, I, I start watching this movie and I'm like, "Oh, right, Brad Pitt. He's the younger generation's Robert Redford, but that's why they're together." I mean, the two handsomest men in the history of Hollywood probably, you could argue. You could make the argument, although Paul Newman would like to have a word, but still. Well, let's put it this way. I was watching it and I told Audrey, who was going to watch it with me, I said, "Robert Redford and Brad Pitt is going to be a smoke show." And she's like, "Oh, yeah, let's watch it." And then she's like, "Oh, I thought you meant Rob Lowe." And she was out. Mm. That was the end of that. Not, not, not to Robert. No, it was just, yeah. Not Robert Lowe. That's Robert Lowe. Robert Lowe. I've never heard of him called Robert Lowe. Bob Lowe. They want to call him Bob Lowe. That'd be fun. Bob Lowe. Bob Lowe. Bob Lowe. But, uh, you know what I mean? Okay. So to answer your question, Randy, I'm looking at his early career. He did, boy, a lot of stupid shit, right up until, okay, here we go, 1990s when things started to happen. Really his, his star making moment is 91 with Elma and Louise, 10 years prior to this. So then you get things like cool world tales from the crypt, forget that. River runs through it. It was a big one for him. California was a big one, true romance, uh, interview with the vampire. I think, I think he's pretty well established by now because we've still got seven legends of the fall, 12 monkeys, sleepers, uh, seven years into bet, meet Joe Black, fight club. Yeah. Yeah. Fight clubs in 99. Yeah. He's well, he's snatch. He's there. He's good. He's the Brad Pitt. We're all, we're all on board. Have we watched cool world for the show, by the way, it feels like cool world is a great fit. We should. We should. We should. We should. Isn't that a Bakshi? I think. Yeah. Ralph Bakshi's, uh, who framed Roger Rabbit. It's like his final hurrah, really. The word cool and, and cool call I got was Heather's, which I think it's funny to watch cool world. No, we've watched Heather's. Why is Heather's? Why is that in there? People. Oh, it's in the description. It's something about cool kids. I see why it's in there. Oh, of course. Uh, but yeah, he, he's well established at this point and I think that I think there's no questioning the longevity of his career and certainly where he's been and, and where he's at now, like Brad Pitts, the deal, man, like like him or hate him or enjoy him or not. Yeah, there's no denying. Well, I don't think Angelina Jolie's very happy with him at the moment, but, uh, even they even, even she's kind of like, or Jennifer Amiston. I don't know. I mean, it wasn't she trying to like not let her kids see him or something though. She was like, all being weird about it. I don't know if she's being weird. Maybe it was all legit, but he's, he's a good actor. He's strikingly handsome. He looks great in his older age now. He's just great. I like him, but Robert Redford, something about that dude walking in just all class. Yeah. Yeah. The Hollywood meets New Hollywood just the guy never gets, never gets bad. I love him. And it felt like the continuation of that, you know, what, the fly of the contours, what, what the crap was the name of the movie? What? Time door, escape man. Three days of the flight of the intruder. Yeah. Nailed it. I kept getting confused. I'm like, this is later's story. It feels like the same story. It feels like a continuation of sneakers is what it is. Yeah. That's a good one. A sneaker so much. He plays that part will. We keep really, we keep bringing up sneakers all the time and we've never done sneakers. We're so lame for not doing sneakers. Okay. I thought we had, no. No. Maybe not. Anyway, I will say this though, as much as I love this movie, there was a lot of things that I was like, first off, that's chewing gum, not bubble gum, no way did that guy blow bubble that big. Oh, so you're like, you're like finding the details that kind of take you out of it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The little details. You can't just shit storm. Well, here's the thing though, Everett, the movie is meant to lead you to believe that Brad Pitt makes a mistake by giving that guy gum and it's all part of his plan. He wants to get caught and does. I know what the movie wanted. Yeah. Now it didn't. What he said you wanted to get caught. He wanted to get caught because how is he going to get that girl out at the end, his whole goal? His entire goal was not even about, uh, under the, I know she was, I thought her dirty was, was, was. Yeah. That's the whole thing. The movie has one of the best little payoffs ever, and I didn't actually follow it. And I'm sad because like after the movie was over, I was like, Oh, her feet were the other feet on the stretcher. Yeah. Yeah. Trying to get out. Right? But he didn't make it. No. Yeah. What you are led to believe is that his, his buddy who helps him snipe played by Benedict Wong underused in this movie. It's very young actor. Right. Who is the, who is his co pilot? We got away. Yeah. So he gets away. You think that that was what was going on. To get out. That's what they, you're led to believe that gum was on purpose. He knew he was going to get the shit kicked out of him and he knew that that was going to go on for a while. I must have been watching a different movie because I thought he just got caught. Nope. And the, and the other dirty. Well, that's what you're supposed to think. That's what you're supposed to think until later. And then later you're, you find out, Oh, this whole thing. What are you talking about? This book? Okay. Cause he loves the girl. He wants the girl out. He wants to save the girl. I'm confused. He was the girl and they were trying to escape because the guy got out of the car wasn't. He was just there. Always. He was always there. He was helping him. Right. He was. I'm confused. I missed the story. That's how that's how I read it as well. Well, okay. I just didn't reveal who it was until later because we hadn't got to that part of the story yet. Right. And so we just didn't show. We hadn't even introduced her when we saw the dirty feet. Like she hadn't even been introduced in flashbacks, but I thought, I thought he wanted to be caught so that he so that the rest of this thing would play out and her getting out. Maybe I read it wrong. Maybe this movie is obtuse. No, no. He was trying to get her out from the get-go and she was the he did not want to get electrocuted. He wanted that on purpose. Yeah. He did that on purpose. How does that work too? It's like a short, uh, human short out the, uh, and they know exactly how long it's going to take. And then when they give him a shot, his color starts coming back. Well, he ate a thing. Remember that he ate a thing right before he took the shot and I, I'm going to assume that McGuffin is like, Oh, well, if you eat this, does something to your heart. So when you're like, electrocuted, you're at, it's a long stretch. You're not wrong. Yeah. Yeah. It's a stretch. There's a, there's a motif here and I don't want to call it a trope because it's, it's, it's more than that. I don't have a motif clip. I wish I did. Right. So overall, the overall movie is a thing where you take a grizzled veteran and you sit them down with a bunch of other guys and they tell you the whole story. And then, and then you find out as they go what the details that matter really were. And it's like the first season of true detective comes to mind. Yeah. Right. Yeah. You're just, you're interviewing someone after all the events. Oh, right. Yeah. World War Z the book. A little bit like that. Yeah. Yeah. It's like this kind of thing. But the problem is it opens up your interpretation to that person's memories. And it's fine if you just shut off your brain and listen and go along with whatever they're saying. But if you don't, if you stop along the way and go, wait a minute, if he could order this rescue at any time, why did he wait? Like it's, it's on a 24 hour clock. Why did he wait until hour 20 or hour 22? Right? You know what I mean? Yeah. It's hard to do that. Don't activate that part of your brain. It's a little, it's a little, it's a little, it's a little wavy in a way that is, if you think too hard, you're going to get caught up in some webs and, and maybe that's part of the point like the craziest piece of trivia I've found out here is that Brad Pitt turned down Jason Bourne. He was supposed to be Jason Bourne. He turned down that shit for this, which means he turned down a franchise. I don't know if anyone knew it was a franchise at the time, but he turned down one of the most lucrative franchises you can think of in the, in the oughts to do this thing. And I kind of scratched my head wondering why, because I think both could have, you both are kind of this, right? They're both kind of this. Right. But both of them are based on a series of books. This could have easily turned into a franchise thing as well. Oh, I didn't know that. Is this a, a particular series? I didn't know that. I was, I was trying to figure that part out because that's kind of vague as well. Like part of the story was written, but then they put it into screenplay. And then they went back and actually wrote the book later on or something. I was, there's so many we be we be we be thingies that I just, we be. I was just like, maybe we be. Maybe we be. I mean, you had a couple of interesting writers on this thing. You have David Orrata, who we all know from lots of stuff in particular, children of men, one of the great, great ladies ever. Let's see what else that's kind of. Oh, you know, you're right. Yeah. Dunaway, you're right. Screenwriter of this released a trilogy of novels featuring characters from this movie in 2022. So yeah. Yeah. Twenty one years after this movie. So it wasn't. I gave that back. It was not a franchise opportunity. But the story was already written. They just, yeah, they had that back. That backner guy, that guy's the most author looking photo I've ever seen in. Yeah. I'm the writer. I'm no shit. Yeah. And he also wrote Cutthroat Island. So take that for whatever you want to take that for. Wow. All this sniper movies. Let's see. That's their brilliant spy game, the agency. These must all be based on, oh yeah, Snipers created based on stuff he created. So yeah. Interesting. Yeah. Speaking of IDB, can I give a, I need to get a sound clip for this, but IMDB photo of the week, easily Larry Bergman. Yes, yes. Look at that dude. It's drowning in a captain's hat. Don't know what's going on there. I don't know what's up. This is a guy that sounds like three or four, if you close your eyes, you hear about three other character actors in your head and then you open it and you realize it's none of them. But he's, he's the dude. He's kind of the CIA in between guy who's friendly with Nathan, but not, you know, he's still, he's. I love all of their little relationships inside the building and Langley. They all, they all have like, everybody's got a ton of history and they have to act in ways that demonstrate it. And I just loved, I loved every minute there. They're all, it's, it's this funny. Now here's a trope. Oh, hold on. Yeah. We got something for that. I was ill prepared. The trope goes, the trope goes, we're going to train your whole life to do spy shit and then get mad at you when you come home and do spy shit. Yeah. And it's so fun how everybody's mad at everybody else for just doing what they've been trained to do, only doing it right down the hall instead of off in some forward country. I just love that and they all did a great job. Every person is asked to stare at every other person and be outraged. Yeah. Awesome. Did you guys ever. Tony Scott. Oh, Tony Scott does a really good job of that. He's great. He's good at, he's good at like getting the characters where they need to be. Yeah. I agree. He just lets people do their thing. Miss Baratheon's character, what's his real name? I can't think of his real name alone. I'll find it that is played by, dude. What's name is Steven Dillion Dillion Dillion. I love him. He eats up scenery. I love him and everything. I've ever seen him in. Here's the problem, though. 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Yeah, and he's just always just getting the raw end of the stick, and I kept thinking he was going to be bad. I kept thinking it was going to be, uh-oh, he's in on the whole, like it felt like that trope was creeping up on me, and it never happened, so that's good. He's just kind of lame. I was amused that we got the only one woman in the world trope, and it was a mere secretary. Gladys is great. She was great. I love her character, I love her. I thought it was, I thought it was C.H. Pounder at first. Yeah, very, very C.H. Pounder. Don't forget, you know, Brad Pitt's girlfriend. Yeah, she's a lady. There's two women in the world, Hadley. Oh, and then in the past, and also you find out at the very end of the movie that she's still around, but yeah, at any given time in this movie, there's only one woman in the world. Gladys, you've got Hadley. Gladys Marianne Jean Baptiste, she has really, like in the last, I don't know, the last 10 years or so, she keeps showing up as like the director of different things, and she just always plays it. So well, and I heard her voice. I was like, before I even saw her face, I was like, oh, I know that voice. No, she'd be a perfect, what's her name? Can't think of the character now. And Suicide Squad. Oh, yeah. Yeah, that'd be nice. We had a nice swap out. Yeah, who we have now is great. But if, I don't know if we would have the same vibe. Yeah, her as Heller would be great. Yeah, she'd be freaking awesome. Yeah, she was great. There were a lot of that going on. Here's my biggest beef, though. There's a trope that they dropped very quickly. Here, I'll play the thing. And that is, and you guys are, somebody I think is Randy referred to it earlier. It jumps around in time, right? You're doing the whole first season of the true detective kind of thing. Or whatever, where you're going back in time. So the first time back in time that they do this thing where everything is sepia-toned in a different color because it's in recollecting something. Yeah. Okay, fine. You see that in a lot of stuff. How do we know we're looking at the past? Because the camera's being film-different. Camera changes, hair changes, and music. Yeah, and they do that with that. And then the rest of the movie, they drop that entirely. Even when it's still showing the Vietnam era stuff, they just stop doing it. Oh, I feel like it was very consistently a cinematographic choice. The cinematographer or the editor are all making the choice from beginning to end to only show you China at night. And to only show you the Middle East in a certain filter that completely loses the color blue. Yeah, I guess that's true. But the Vietnam thing felt like they were trying to give me a filter that said, "It's the '60s, baby." Or '71, or you know what I mean? And then they showed other stuff from that era from that same time in not that film style. And I don't understand why they dropped it. I thought it was weird. Where it really stuck out to me was the early in the movie, Robert Redford is coming to work on his last day. And he's driving into CIA headquarters. And everything was so freaking washed out. And I was like, "Are we in the Matrix?" Like, it was that level of, and I realized at the same time frame as the Matrix, et cetera, it was just too much. I don't want to skip Robert Redford's tiny car. Is he always in a tiny car? In every movie I've seen in that, that's just my imagination. He's almost in the Italian job because he really liked the cars in that one too. I don't know. Actually, you're making a really interesting point. I don't know if I've ever seen him in a large car. I think you're right. No, he's no Matt McConaughey Lincoln, right? No. He's the tiny car. He wants a tiny car and we're a horse. There's no in between. Maybe look bigger. Or about the, you can't fix. Oh, I love that movie so much. Gosh damn it too. I did go back to make sure it was the same car at the beginning of the end because it wouldn't have been so amazing if he'd shown up in like a '68 Porsche 912, that's what I was, a '68 Porsche 912. And then left in like a '89 Porsche 911, you know? And they didn't know that he had a different car, so they were going to try to follow him in the wrong car. You know what else is great? Every Asian actor you've ever seen ever is in the first like 10 minutes of this movie. And that's great. Or they're ones that are all about to have a career, right? Benedict Wong, you got the guy, he was in one of the X-Men movies. He was in Lost. Oh, yeah. Can they give his name? I'm strong with me. He's not listed in high in the credits. No, but he's in there. But we did get a lot of Michael Paul Chan making snarky remarks. Yeah, Michael Paul Chan's another, he's great. I freaking love that guy. And then like we mentioned Benedict Wong in a very small role, but it's great to see him because he's about to have his day, right? So he got, he got literally like all of this, I guess Brad Pitt's the only non-MCU actor in here. But you got... Pretty much, yeah. You got Robert Redford, he's MCU for sure. Yeah. You got, like we mentioned Benedict Wong and the little guy I think you can count from X-Men, even though it's not MCU, but I still count it. It's all bought by the same people. No, no, no. It's a lot. It's a lot of MCU connections. And then you got this... Ken Louing. There he is. He's great. He is great. If you've seen industry at all, which is kind of a hard watch, but if you do watch it, he's really great. He eats up the freakin' scenery in that movie, or that show on HBO. It was very good. I was real quick, I was gonna play a thing that I'm gonna play early. This dude in England, his friend who he keeps relying on, this is what he sounds like right here. I'll just play him. I'll give you 25 minutes before I transmit. If you want to see the cable before they do, you'd better hustle. Alright, so I hear this guy's voice, and I see his eyebrows, and I immediately know who it is. And I'll play that clip now. We reach back to hallowed antiquity to bring you a recreation of the second full of mighty Carthage. He's that wackadoo announcer guy from Gladiator. That's the guy. Yeah. It's pretty cool. The eyebrows were the giveaway for me, 'cause I just remember those things go like six inches each direction. Anyway, fun little deep dive on that guy. Yeah, that's perfect. He sees awesome. Here's a question for you. Is it a Christmas movie because there's a Christmas scene? No. No. Okay, that's not my rules, but you know. But my overall observation is really holding up. They couldn't have a quick scene in late December without the music really driving it home for you. We had to get that music with the sleigh bells. It had to be. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They're outside in there. It's like the same one they use in all the other movies. It seems like the popular one. I also have this problem with movies that I think you say his name, Omid Dajali shows up in. Because Omid Dajali is a Middle Eastern actor who is in everything you've ever seen. It feels like he's just in tons of stuff. But most of it is comedic. Most of the time, he's a goofball, and he's somebody's sidekick or something. So when he shows up and it's a serious role, he was one of the contacts that he had there and where were they, Syria or whatever that was? Get over there. He's a serious character. I can't be doing that. You can't be putting a comedic guy in there. It's throwing me off. Yeah. It's throwing me off, man. Yeah. Wow. His AIMDB photo is a winner as well, man. That is fantastic. Yeah. And once again, Omid Dajali was in gladiator. He was in the mummy. He was in a bunch of stuff. And he's always a little bit goofy in those things. Yeah. It looks like he might even do one of his photos looks like he's doing the stand-up. He does. He's a stand-up guy. So that's what I'm saying. It's hard for me. It's like when you put, I don't know, you can do this. He takes somebody like, can't name his name all of a sudden, played Gruber. Hans Gruber. It's wrong with me. Oh, Alan Rickman. Take Alan Rickman and you put him in a comedic role and it works. And you're like, "Wow. I didn't think he could do that." Or his stern acting could be funny in something like Galaxy Quest or whatever. So you can get away with it, but this dude just threw me. There's a sign. All right. One more thing about Omid Dajali. We just named the mummy and spy game. There's only one of the other two movies that we've sacked that he's been in. Oh my gosh. I can't do this game because I have his cast or his filmography up. I'm going to guess. I haven't seen it yet. I'm going to guess. He's working. He got a good agent. It really does. Was he in Stargate? The movie Stargate? He was not, but that's a great guessing. You're guessing like location. You need a guy on the ground there. He's always the guy on the ground. You mentioned Gladiator. Although we haven't done Gladiator, have we? I don't think we have. We have not. I've just seen it ten times. He already said mummy. Did we do mummy? I don't think we did the mummy or did we? We did. Okay. So Sky Game and the mummy or two of them. We also sacked Sky Captain in the world of tomorrow. Omid Dajali was in that. Wow. And the world is not enough. Do you remember? The world is not enough. I bet he was goofy. I bet he was goofy in it. That's what I'm saying. Like he was probably somebody James had to work with on the ground in some, you know, Middle Eastern country. And he was like James. You know what I mean? Like that kind of guy. He's like the dude from Indiana Jones. It's the, it's the. Yeah. John Rhys. David's thing. Yeah. He's the solove. Everything he's ever in. And this one he was just a little too serious for me. That's all. He's pretty cool. Also, I like a movie that can do these flashbacks without them being feeling forced. They, while I agree with Randy's point that sometimes point of view gets skewed because he wouldn't have memories to tell that room of things he didn't witness. Right. So you have to be careful there. So I'm really glad you brought that up because it's hard to do that. And I think this movie has a few goofs. But for the most part, that felt all right to me. And it can be done very poorly in some movies. And I don't like it. So I liked it here. I thought it was good. I did find, I fell uncomfortable a couple of times. I don't know if I was supposed to or not. But there's definitely a feeling of like, like, are we colonizers? Because it felt like, you know, here we are. We're showing up and all the kids are running down or running towards us. And they're all happy and they're screaming whatever foreign language they're supposed to be screaming. And also the scene when Brad Pitt and the taxi, by the way, that whole scene cracked me up. Trying to get the doctor to the location was hilarious when he was the taxi driver essentially. Yeah. And he runs over the fish cart and all of the merchants there lose their shit. Yeah. That's a great question. Well, there's fish in this movie. Yeah. So there's fish, man. Here's the thing though. I wrote it down to my notes, Danway. That whole scene could have had the Benny Hill music and it would have worked. Yeah. It was great. And then they're trying to show up with the doctor all sweating and stuff. And he's got to come around the corner and act all normal. I'm good. Yeah. I'm a good, yeah. I'm a good in there. I just want to answer Brian Danway's question. Yes. We are the colonizers. Yes. This movie was trying to make that point, but it was trying to get right up to the line on it. This movie was constantly like winking at you and saying, but you know, they have good intentions. We used to get CIA. We used to get CIA. We bought the good guys. Yeah. Well, the whole conversation with Redford and the other dude who has the funny IMDB photo, they have a little conversation that leads to this. This used to have a reason. Didn't this mean something at one point? Or weren't we up to something good or whatever? It's about as close as they get to really addressing overreach by government and things like that. It talks about this a lot in a lot of things. They literally put a burned flag on the wall of the main character. His totem is a burned flag. You're supposed to think about that and take a lot of meaning from that. You know, it's funny though. I didn't notice it until after his office got ransacked and for a hot second, I thought they set it on fire when they were in there. They're digging through stuff. It's one thing to throw your boxes and throw shit everywhere. It's another just to light your flag on fire and then I realized that's some relic from some war and then it occurred to me what was going on. That was pretty funny. If you weren't really paying attention, you would think that those goons went in there and let everything on fire. That flag, by the way, had 48 stars. No. I wanted to point that out. Let's go flag. Okay. A thing that I managed to do while watching the movie was count the stars on the flag. So it's pre-1959. Interesting. Wow. So when was when he started? Probably when he started. I hate Alaska. I get it. Okay. I thought Alaska was when he started. I thought Alaska was a lot earlier than that. I guess that's right. There's a lot of shit that happened in the 50s that everyone thinks has been here since the 1800s. Like in God, we trust on the money. It's happened in the freaking 50s, the positive allegiance under God part 50s. But everybody goes, oh, no, that's been there forever. The founding fathers would be offended if you took it out. It's like, no, the 50s would be offended. Yeah. Freaking father knows best and leave it to beaver would be offended. Give me a break. Lane. So was we supposed to think that Robert Reffer's character had a drinking problem? Oh, my God, Alaska, the big bottle of booze and talking about whole the scotch. He has to drink his. He was always a little lit the whole time. You could just imagine. Oh, I got a I got a question. Robert Redford himself just smells like whiskey all the time. Yeah. But a good age. But a good fine whiskey and aftershave. Yeah. Yeah. For sure. And a wood fire. Good wood fire, you know. Yeah. So, okay. I got a question that just left me flummoxed and maybe I'm stupid. But they talked about how you had four fake wives. They were all contacts. Yeah. Just ways to help a story. Did he ever have an actual wife in the end? I think you're supposed to decide for yourself. Okay. Left him. The guy says, oh, he was only married once. And he stole. I think he had one wife. She left him because he's pretty much flatly stated that never give your money away to anybody. Well, yeah. But he's also, I think, he's so spied up that I think every day life would be like. Honey, where's the honey? Where's the shampoo? He tried to get away with some. He tried to get away with some shit and you'd accidentally leave some important information in the front of your dossier. Yeah. No, exactly. It's like honey, where's the shampoo? I know where it went. I saw the reflection of when it fell down on the tub on the thing. You know what I mean? Like it drives you. It drives you. It drives you face. You'd want to start drinking out of your flask is what you'd want to do. You're planning a surprise party for me. I know. Because I saw the room when, you know, we were talking to somebody and I saw the way they looked over the only way to look over as if there was a surprise party being planned. You get me a tie. Yeah. Where's my special breakfast bowl? No one else is allowed to touch. Well, let me tell you. There's that one. Again, I really strongly suggest that you don't think too far into it. Yes, absolutely. Because as everybody in the building is realizing that he's not actually married and the wife was invented, you start realizing, well, he had to tell his secretary that so that she could play the part. And that means that she could have told somebody else. Just don't think about it. The character himself is everybody's an asset. I mean, he's a manipulator. He manipulates everybody. Right up until the last day, in which case, he's not willing to burn his best friend, Brad Pitt. He's willing to do anything to get his best friend, Brad Pitt out. Can a CIA guy who is currently being shut down by the rest of the CIA call a general on the phone and say, go ahead with operation and get him out? He does it from another guy's phone. And he signs the order fraudulently from Kes company. I got to be honest. That felt like a lot of unnecessary. I mean, as long as you get it close, it's good. No one's going to question it. No one looks at a signature and goes, oh, no. Well, in the CIA. They were a great reveal when he made two of them. He made a fraudulent order that he needed carried out and a fraudulent order that he wanted them to find. And that was the one that they found. And then he's got to go, sorry. Yeah. Looking at the Bahamas. When I watched him spend five minutes of a two hour movie going through the injury process, I was like, there's a lot of paperwork in this movie. Yes. Oh, there was so much. Dude, so much paper pushing. Yeah. In spite of games. Yeah. I guess 91, you know, it's what you did. That was the name of the game. The game transitioned fully to more digital worlds or exactly in the game of spies. They could have called this movie Game of Spies. Game of Spies. It might have been a better name. I'm just saying. Spy game is a little, I don't know. They did say the name of the movie one time, right, too. Yeah. No, he said it's this. This is the game. They kept talking about how this is the game. Yes, it is a game. It said something spy game. And because I, again, looked over at Tina. Oh, no. I take that back. There was another movie that we saw this game. Right here. You know, they said the name of the movie. Yeah. No, this one I was waiting for it. I never heard it, but I heard it. I heard game a lot, but. Yeah. They've said game a whole bunch. Yeah. They kept saying game. So this movie was called game. We're on. Yeah, game. Yeah. Yeah. Also, I got a question about them puke pills. Also, it's the thing. Oh, I'll go ahead and just. Great. I'll just go ahead and say. Gross. It grossed me out. I don't know. It's in effect. I even know I know it's a mouthful soup, whatever. It's disgusting to me that you can. That's not how pills work either. I mean, it's a capsule, but I mean, you know, just like. Shake it around your face. It was awful quick, right? Like very quick. Yeah. And couldn't you just finger finger your throat and get that? I mean, could you Scott? I want to know right now. Could you gag yourself to puke? I could. But I would really resist it. If I, if my life was in danger and I was trying to save the. Idiot German guy, I think I would. I mean, I could in that scenario. But in right now, if you said, Hey, Scott, I'll give you $400 if you can just. Yeah. I'd have to have a very good reason, but I think I could do it as well. Somewhere along my somewhere in my life, I used to have a gag reflex, but apparently lost it because I know like a couple of years ago, I got, I get so nauseous. And I was like, I could just throw up and I stick my finger in my back and I'm like, nothing. And I'm like, how far can I go down? Oh my God. Where's my gag reflex? How far can you go? Oh my God. What I do. Did you learn how far you can go? How far can you go? All the way to the end of my index finger, apparently. So I could. Wow. You touch your heart. I don't know. You poked your left ventricle in your heart. It was. Yes. I'm now there was vibrating. I don't know what it was. You are the opposite of me. Right. I'm telling you, I can vomit. I can gag myself just. I used to. Watching my teeth. I like. Yeah. It's right there. That reflex is really close. I definitely don't have it. I mean, I haven't peaked in 20 years. So I don't know. I'm going to make it gag faster than they have to take some of those molds. Remember the gel molds? You take your teeth? Oh my God. Oh, right. Oh, he used to hate those. Now they put. They don't do that anymore. They paint it on now, right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They tell you it's a nice flavor still and it's always bad. Always tastes like. Oh, yeah. Yeah. This one's minting. No, it's not. No, it's not. I just want to name the trope, by the way, because it's a fun one. It's called the vomit indiscretion shot. Oh, of course this has a name. That's amazing. In discretion shot. Why does the filmmaker decide to show you this? They could have implied it. They, all they have to do is imply it. You don't have to show it. Yeah. I will tell you, I have a new winner, leader for the most explicit vomit scene I've seen in movie history. And it used to be, I think I used to give it to. And you don't count stuff like Monty Pythons. No, no, no. The fake joke vomit scenes. Those are, those are, don't big deal. But this one's where it's just like, oh my gosh, are they okay? Like that kind of thing. Alien Romulus has a bar scene that is really spectacular. I thought you were going to say the rock. Do you remember in the rock? I don't remember anyone puking in the rock. Yeah. Why don't I remember that? Walmart. I knew it was you. Walmart. I'm trying to get in the moment. He's getting in the moment. His name's Stanley Goodspeed. Yeah. He is told what he's about to have to deal with. And he goes to the bathroom. Oh, yeah. That's a good one. But that's all noise and no splatter. You know? The one in Romulus is really, really something. And if you don't remember it, next time you see Romulus, you'll remember this. Because it's just like, oh shit. That's a gnarly barf. Anyway. I was, I still am a little appalled at the puking scene in Apollo 13. And I know, I know if you're going to have a puke moment in a movie, it needs to be in a movie about astronauts, right? But you got the helmet on and it's just like, oh God, and you're all claustrophobic and you're in space. Oh shit. Pute tube. And you're, and you're Hudson, you're all these things. You're all these things at once. Of course you'll, you'll vomit. All right. Where the hell else are we? Oh, I'm going to say check in the bucket. Is the secretary? I'll make this argument real quick here. I think that I think that there's no, there's no finality though to her. I mean, she basically does what he needs to have done. And then she just disappears and she was so crucial to everything right up to that point. I just needed some kind of wink and a nod or something. And there was nothing. Bigger. She did a bigger goodbye, but yeah, she kind of, she does exit through a voice over thing. I think the chicken, the bucket is those dirty feet because I need to, I need to see them show her dirty feet and then her face. So I can go connection. All right. Perfect. It's the perfect. The birthday flask is set up to have purpose in or out beautiful, et cetera. And then lay it just like, okay, I guess it was a gift, but we, we, we got this beautiful shot of a gift and it never became an idea. You need him to take it like, like near the end, like take a, take it out, take a swig and then like light a lighter and blow up the old ball of flames and then leave and just run like a magic trick or something's that what you would say. Yes. He could have poured, he could have poured an accelerant out of it into his own car. It's a distraction. Yeah. Distraction. And then burned his car down and then escaped from the CIA entirely and lived the rest of his life in the Bahamas. Dude, he's not going to Bahamas. There's no way they're letting that. Oh, that's true. That's true. Yeah. He's going to the South Pacific or something. Yeah. His face was pretty banged up. It reminded me of a fight club. The... Oh, you don't want Brad Pitt? Yeah. Brad Pitt, when he got the crap kicked out of it. Okay. Okay. I want to talk about this. Does anybody else believe that there is a makeup artist who just was thrilled when told you're going to make the most beautiful man in the world look the worst he will ever look in his life? Yeah. Just think about that. What a moment. It's also really, really... I think that's hard to do without it looking bad. I think they did a really good job. He was swollen. Oh, look. He looked puffy in the right ways. Yeah. Yeah. I bet he wasn't chewing no gum that week. No. He looked funny because that is a Brad Pitt thing, right? You like always seen eating in the movies and stuff. Yeah. Yeah. And no, no eating in this movie. Not even chewing the gum, he brought. Not even chewing the gum, right? Maybe for a movie where he's saved by dinner out. Yeah. You don't see me eating dinner out. Yeah. I forgot to mention this. This is a completely unrelated thing, but because you guys brought it up. Brian, I bet you and your misophobia thing, phobia thing. Yes. And I think a lot of people share it. I saw a movie that I have already told you. I saw it, but I didn't warn you that the substance has easily the most disgusting form of that I've ever seen in my life and you are in for something there. I'm just warning him. I'm letting you know. Thanks for the heads up. Yeah. Because I forgot to do it the other day and I was so interested in all the other gross things in it that I forgot to say, oh yeah, there's this thing. So just saying when you see Dennis Quaid doing a thing, just let me know how you feel later. That's all. Okay. That's all I'm saying. Great. Thanks for the warning. Yeah. That's what friends are for. We're supposed to all help each other out. Tony Scott dedicated this film to his mother at the end. She had just passed away. His brother Ridley Scott did the same thing with Black Hawk Down, the very same, or no, the very next year, Black Hawk Down came out and he did the same thing there, so that was cool. Must be cool being these high powered director brothers, you know, at the time, like just yeah, knocking out hits, and yeah, everyone, I got confused. I've gotten confused. Oh yeah, go ahead. Yeah. I just wondered if you got, if you ever got the feeling at the time that they were close, like I always felt like one was in London. One was in LA. Yeah. I didn't like they were doing their thing. They would get together. They'd get together at family stuff, but I think that was most of the family was mama. Scott's got me to the Sabbath where I think about Thanksgiving. Like picture all the Baldwin brothers coming for Thanksgiving. You know, only a couple of them are bringing a bottle of wine, you know, with one of them. I feel like the Scott's moms, I feel like she was the one that was holding them together. Yeah, yeah. With Randy. Maybe, and I remember they shared a production company, Scott Free Productions is not just one of them. It's both of them. And I think... Scott's mom told them to. I think he was pretty... Share your company with your brother. If I remember, I really was really upset about the death of Tony. So my guess is they're close, but also that world is so, so it's not your typical bit. How can it be? The real story here is, we don't know, but I will tell you this, I've been watching Barry all weekend. Barry. Oh, Max. Yeah. He's a killer, you know, and so, and I keep getting the scenes from the sniper scenes in this movie confused with shit I saw in there. Oh, yeah, that's a... Good morning. That happens to me too. If I'm watching something else even remotely close to the thing we just saw for Film Sack, I mix them up. Yeah. I can't help it. Because I mean that sniper scene where he's got to stand his ground and wait for that helicopter, it keeps coming in. That was... That was great. That was pretty cool shit. That was great. I thought that was awesome. I couldn't tell if the helicopter was doing a thing that they do, that if that was on purpose in case there are snipers, create some cover, some, you know, the wind's going to change trajectories and so your blades are going to change that. Oh, yeah. And you're just... Is that a tactic? I don't know, I don't know why they were in the air in the first place. I was curious because I had a Scott moment during that sniper scene because it just left, like it just left the camp and they had specifically said that his sniper buddy was who's calling out everything was separated from everybody else because of the smelly food he had. And so I was like, "Oh, he's got that smelly breath and he's sitting like two inches away from Brad Pitt." Yeah. Well, that's... The wind's blowing. The wind's blowing. The right direction. In Vietnam time, everyone's calling it, quote unquote, "gooke food" and that was fun. Those guys are dicks because you know what's great? That food. That's so good. And everyone's got a million restaurants now. All white people love... love fun now. Like it's the greatest thing ever. It's like, "Where were you in '71?" "Gooke food." So lame. So if I was Brad Pitt, I'd be going, "Mm, what do you got over here? I'm bonding." You have a... Could you say that again? Yeah. Could you say it again? Do you have a bond meme for lunch? That's fantastic. Yum, yum, yum, yum, yum, yum. But I just want to make sure that I understand the point of that is that these weirdo snipers eat the local food so they smell like locals, right? Yeah. Right. I guess. But they're just making the point that he is so committed to his craft that he's eating the local food so that his smell doesn't give him away. But all I'm saying is the sergeant could have said, "It's the local food," instead of saying... In fact, he said both. He says... No, no, no. He's over there making his local food and then he pauses and says, "You know, gooke food." It's like, "Oh, we know you racist piece of shit." That was to make us hate him a little bit, right? Right. It's a little bit of... Yeah, but then we never saw him again. That guy disappeared. He went to jerk goog food, probably immediately went to like Panda Express after shooting that scene. I love that you think the actors... But he's like the actors don't make it exactly. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm trying to separate the art from the artist in this case. I don't know what's going on. Did you have a Seinfeld moment when they kept talking about Cathcart? Wasn't that like... Cathcart? Is that not right? Oh, Cartwright. No, Cartwright. Cartwright. Oh, I got it wrong. Yeah. Cartwright? Cartwright? He say, "Carsford"? I hang up. I love that scene. I could have used a little Hong James Hong. Oh, yeah. James Hong. Yeah. I mean, if we're going to have a comedic actor in this thing, let's say. Yeah. Have him be your contact on the ground in China. Do that. Right. Speaking of which, Suqiao prison is situated in the Jingsoo province of China, but the actors speak Cantonese that is used in South China, including Hong Kong and Macau, so it was kind of inaccurate. Everybody yelling and talking in the inoculation room or whatever, that was just the wrong dialect for the area they were in. So I don't know if I'd call it a goof, but who the hell would know, you know? Right. Yeah. Chinese people would know, I suppose. But we wouldn't know. Also, the pack of cigarettes that Robert Redford had uses as a distraction. They're morally brand and they are the same fictional brand used in, yes, you heard it right, the 1993 series The X-Files by the infamous character known as the Cigarettes. I saw the trivia about it. It's hilarious. No, that at all. Of all the things to reuse. Yeah. Yeah. I think that's freaking great. It's just sitting around the states and where we need a pack of cigarettes, 2001, who has cigarettes? Nobody. Yeah. Well, some make is the closet, right, or the closet, but prop, you know, the warehouse will props. I know it's. I love it. The whole movie's probably got a closet. It's just like a pantry size thing where you've got like eight props. It's the 20s. We're making silent movies. There's a prop closet. Sure. I need some man to actually worked at one in Hollywood, worked at a prop warehouse. Oh, nice. Ooh. How tempting was that to like snag something cool? I know. I know. It's like, oh my God. Why didn't we ever go out to or why didn't you tell me you're doing this when we did all those visits to California for Blizzcon? I would have loved to just come come there and I would have kept my hands in my pockets. I would have been fine with that, but I wouldn't mind seeing the whole thing. I wouldn't have walked out with Deckard's gun from Blade Runner, Apollo candy bar or a yeah, or any of that stuff, a freakin flex capacitor in my back pocket, whatever I need. It says that where to go here, I lost it. Oh, the okay. So Tony Scott said or he had asked for more money and they had already spent way too much and he was like, I need more money for the scene in Berlin. He wanted to do that rooftop now that fight where Brad Pitt throws a chair over there and probably killed us. That is so crazy. I would have mentioned like where that chair lands. Yeah, you know what? The chair is the check in the bucket, I think. The chair is the chair. There you go. Yeah. But anyway, in order to rent a helicopter for that scene and they would not, they refused to pay for it. He just, he thought it was so important. He just rented it himself with his own money. He's like, here we go. Let's get into that. Yeah. It's pretty great. I mean, you know, and I think I, I think it was worth it. That was an amazing. Oh, for sure. Just the panning around that, uh, I mean, that's the money shot. Right. That's like, that's in the trailer, right? Yeah. And I don't want to make it sound too magnanimous. I don't know what a helicopter cost to rent, probably a grand or something. It's not that big a deal. As far as I know, I don't actually know, but it makes great story, right? Tony Scott, I had to pay for it. I paid for it. I have a voice like this. I'm from the UK, but I speak like this, uh, anyone, uh, anyone to figure out how they, uh, blew up a building in Beirut, because I saw a building get blown up and fall down in Beirut. I saw it. It was, that was so real. I, I can't explain it. It was amazing. Yeah. Yeah. I, I thought that was great, but I also had a lot of questions. I assume that the point was the doctor died because he went into the building that then got leveled. Right. Right. Okay. So, so that makes sense. It's like this whole thing was for not. It's sad that he shouldn't have died because that's sad in the first place, uh, but I also don't think that truck was as loaded with the C four or whatever the hell they called it. Is it looked? I don't know. I had to have questions about that whole scene, but it was also beautifully shot and really kind of impactful and stuff and powerful. Yeah. Yeah. So it was a mixed bag. I'll say that like nuts. Amazing. Amazing. That 20 years later in the actual Beirut, there was a massive explosion at a wharf. Mm hmm. I couldn't, I couldn't help thinking of that. How? Yeah. This was kind of similar or predictive. I don't know. Predictive is the right word. I think there have been things like that, like, uh, I guess there was never a movie where the Twin Towers got hit, but there was like a rap album or something with a plane slamming into it. Do you guys remember that? It's like a 90s. Yeah. All right. Yeah. The, the, it's the end of the world as we know it by REM was kind of looked at as a predictive thing too, because there's a few things, uh, in there, see if they talk about don't get cut in foreign towers, blah, blah, blah. Here it is. It's a band. It's a music by the Koo. Um, let's see if we can find the image. Okay. Okay. Chew. Cause I want to see if it's, if it's all that. Oh geez. Oh no. Okay. Well, it is exactly as bad as you think it could be pretty obvious when you show. Yeah. So they changed it later, uh, because of it, but this was 90s when they did this. And here it is. Hold on. Why can't I find discord? There we go. All right. Check this out. There's one on the left. Oh geez. Wow. Yeah. So they, they've got full on photoshopped explosion on the twin towers up there as part of their album years and years and years before. I'm not saying the terrorists saw this and went, you know what we could do. They also predicted that I would have a dirty martini at a party. Uh, yeah, which is crazy on fire. On fire. So that was the replacement because, uh, I guess once nine, yeah, they were like, oh shit. We don't, we're going to get it. We're going to get asked questions. I don't want to interview with the FBI change it. Anyway, uh, any further thoughts before clip time, clippens times I can imagine a lot of the dialogue was short, fast. Uh, so yeah, I was interested in like your mom. Oh, ah, short and fast. Um, yeah, I don't, uh, I can't think of anything else. I, I, this is going to go down though as one of my ones that I would like to see again, just on my own. I really enjoyed it. And I think once you kind of know, it's one of those, that the movie changes the second time you view what I'm guessing because of what you know from the, from the first viewing. Mm hmm. Yeah. It just feels like one of those. But also I think I've finished, doesn't quite finish out my Tony Scott dance card. I think I'm still one shy. Um, I think I have to go look, right? I've seen the Pelham thing, the runaway train deal that was his last one, um, which I liked no one else seemed to at the time. Here we go. Oh, his 1970 movie, the, uh, loving memory and his second movie in 83 called the hunger. I've not seen those, but everything else I've seen. Right. Uh, oh, I haven't seen the last boy scout. I forgot. Oh, wow. What are you doing? Yeah. Yeah. That's another one I get a sword. We did here. But okay. We got it. And the hunger. That matter. That's the Natasha Kinske David Bowie one. Is that right? Oh, I think you're right. Have I not? Where's that? No, no, uh, that was cat people. But it's also a vampire thing. Um, wait. Is that on this list? I don't see it. I see revenge. Uh, I saw that. Uh, Beverly Hills cop two I've seen many times top got a million times, David Bowie, Susan Sarandon. Oh, here it is. The hunt. Cat people is, uh, Bowie and, and Kinske. We need to watch that one. And the news. Yeah. That's what I definitely am seeing. Yeah. I would see this. It's just a wild ride, just a wild ride. Dan had died. Well, there's your horror. He's got all, he's all hairy and stuff. He's, he's already the, uh, if he's the werewolf, it's perfect. He's a, he's man pube. It should be his hero name. I'm man pube. Let's get to these, uh, these clips here. We got a number of them and they're all stacked up and ready to play. So let's start with this one, uh, the sound of a guard getting shot. And when I say a shot, I mean a shot in his arm. He's getting inoculated. And he made this noise. Ah, I hate to get mass inoculation. Oh, we know. Right. Oh, it's so painful. It's getting pushed through there. Big, thick needles. Just to hurry. Everybody's going to hurry. Bam, bam. No. Slow down. Do this right, please. Sounds like we got a new one come with that bird flu in Texas that jumped from a dead bird to a lady. And now everyone's worried about it. It didn't make me, it didn't make me think if you're in a third world country and, and they bring in an outsider to do a thing. Like a doctor giving inoculations or an inspector, like from a different country. That might be CIA guy. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Very well. That's why you don't do that. Also, I mean, also I was a little upset. I'm like, okay, I, 2000 or 90, what's supposed to be, I was like trade wars with China. You don't just, you just don't have Americans just pop into a Chinese prison and take somebody. That's international. Also, why are we doing inoculations in a prison? Was it just for the staff and the guards in the? Well, I'm assuming that they're, he's, they're supposed to be like an international operation. This has, you know, people of all nations. You're going to suffer something here. Yeah. One of those, one of those like, yeah. Let me tell you, I am not anti-vax, not even remotely, but I am anti-vax in a Chinese prison. Right. Right. Yeah. Yeah. You know what? Whatever. Keep, keep your notes clean, Scott. You'll never have to worry about it. Oh, no. What have, what have, what have, what have CVS stands for Chinese virus center or sending systems? System. System syringe. Syringe. Oh, no, no, no, no. Sorry, Randy. I cut you off. What are you gonna say? I just was agreeing with you that I will die of it easily prevented from that prison. Yeah, dude. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Here's your guy again in England. It's Duncan. What are you doing at home? Yeah. Yeah. That's something. You know, when you played the clip earlier of what else I got, the gladiator stuff, I was really thinking, oh, my God, he's gonna play the, the dude who's constantly rubbing his nipples and man next to his third nips. That's looking like that guy a lot. It does look like that guy. Yeah. That's funny. Let's see. What's his name? Um, I'm trying to see if he's still with us and doing work. I really like him. I can't find it. He's in here somewhere. I don't understand how professional filmmakers all listen to that and thought, that sounds good enough. We're just gonna let him sound like that. That actor. Oh, he's got, I mean, it's very unique voice and it's perfect for a gladiator because he could really belt it out, you know, like just we reach back to hallowed antiquity and antiquity. Hello. That's great. That is great. This thing in spy game that they allowed him to do, not great. He's dunking. What are you doing at home? He just looks like a guy that just drank, drank too much, ate too much fat, like blood sausage. Who knows what he's doing at home. Uh, all right. This is when I, this is when I ask if the ends are USB two or USB three, read the cable. Read the cable. It says, uh, let's see, boy scouts in trouble, boy scouts in trouble. Well, I got a lot of this guy. I forgot how much. This guy is a favorite. He's got a great. Yeah, he's great. He's got a great voice. Yeah. All right. Nick name boy, a nickname church, the code name Boy Scout is awesome. Yeah. Boy Scouts. Cool. Some code. Yeah. And I like the origin of it. Hey, you learned to shoot in Boy Scouts. That was great. All right. My favorite, one of my favorite alarm sounds we've seen on film sack. And here it is. That's a cool sound. Yeah. It's almost Star Wars like, oh shit, the empire is boarded, the thing or whatever. It's good. Anyway. Uh, here's the breath, breath in brother Stannis doing stuff. You used to run an agent named Bishop, Tom Bishop. Yeah. How is he? We like to take a look at his files. I'm trying to sound American. I would do just use your natural accent. He would have been so much better with his natural accent. I agree. Cause he struggled with it and it would have been, it didn't, it distracted me, but he's just let him be a British national or, you know, it's naturalized. I guess we don't do that here. I don't know what we do. Do we do? Do we do? Do we have British people in the CIA? Do you think we do? And, and the CIA is full of language experts, man. It's just chock full of people. That's true. Multiple languages and accents and so on. Like just let him be. All I have is movies to go by. I don't, I've never been there, never, never been allowed on Langley, you know, whatever they do. Sure. My, my geometry teacher in high school retired CIA. Oh, cool. She just brought it up one day and everyone in the class sat up straight and we were like, are you serious? Are you just like telling us a story and saying, no, retired CIA. I was with CIA for 30 years. And then my retirement job is teaching high school geometry and we were just like, where were you stationed? And she's just going to Hong Kong, like through that, and you just started speaking Chinese. I have no idea. Oh, man. I was hoping you'd say she pulled up, pulled out a straw and went. Yeah. Like, started all of you. Yeah. And you woke up a few kills at you. Yeah. I'm remembering anything. Here's a great line about Noah. I like this line. It's great. When did Noah build the art, Gladys before the rain, it's great line. He built it before the rain. And that's what he was doing. He was building all the shit. I thought you were looking for it. I thought you were looking for a date. You were looking for general information. Okay. You want some info? And this, we heard this earlier, but I'll play it again. Where is it? We need a third tit. We need a third tit. A third tit. Yeah. I'll play as it's a third tit. Okay. We need a third tit. A third tit. Bring in. Someone calls a tit. I'm sorry, but only Sir Penis is available. Here's something about toaster ovens. Toaster ovens. I guess literally that's what it says. Specifically about toaster ovens. Yeah. The old guy. Saying stuff. Give me Peter Brody of the FCC. I don't care. Just get him. Oh. Oh, it's I didn't. It's not old guy. Get me a guy thing is what I wrote. Oh, yeah. Get me some my own fight. Get me. Yeah. Get me whoever doesn't matter what he's doing. I'll hold. Tell him it's me. Tell him it's me. Yeah. That's wrong. Everything. This is sounds like a miserable way to live. Twice the sex with half the foreplay. Or maybe not. I don't know. I don't want to judge. Twice the sex would have to have sex with. Half the foreplay. Well, for the guy it might be. I don't know if the ladies enjoying that as much. Yeah. I'm just saying. All right. And also think this music slaps. This is part of what Randy was saying, but I also kind of like this really works for me when that's going on. We must be in Detroit. Yeah. Yeah. Nailed it. Anyway, there's your clips and now what? Oh, yeah. Look at this, everybody. Time for this. That's the wrong one. Hold on. What happened here? No, that's wrong too. What happened here? Let's get to the film sack checklist. Benedict Wong making all things better when he's around check with his local food. Let's see. We should find a way to reincarnate Tony Scott and make Margaret Tony Scott movies check. And finally, Brad Pitt is roughly the age now that he was in this. I'm sorry. He's roughly the age now that Redford was in this. Think of that. Oh, wow. Melt it. Moocs. Yeah. Let's get to the Star Trek connections. I know there's at least two, but Randy. I want you to guess even one. Really? Am I up in the night here? Okay. So I think that I've seen, I've got to find his name. Hold on. Doesn't matter. There aren't any. There's no there's no connections. I went through every person in this. Really? And it's an expensive test. Like I thought could look by the. Nope. Never Benedict Wong. No, never, never, none of them. Hold on. Every single one of them. And I'm here to tell you, control F T R E K on their, on their whole list. That gets real old, but I, there's not a single one. So I decided to do two hop, two hop. Well, not Michael Paul Chan. Just checking. Just checking. Okay. No, Trek in his entire list. All right. All right. I made two, I made two, two hop connections just for fun. Okay. Alfred was in the company you keep with Fred Henderson, who was in Jack with Brent Spiner. And Brad Pitt was in seven with Morgan Freeman. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He was in Ted too with non non visitor. Those are my, those are my two hop. That's how it works. I like to do two hops. Nice. Okay. So hops is not bad. Fair enough. All right. Well, props to Michael Paul Chan. I thought you were in Star Trek. I don't know why that's props to him. It's becoming so rare that we watch a movie made between 1970 and the current day that doesn't have any Star Trek. Yeah. Especially when with a big broadcast of like character actors, we know from a million other things. Like I'm actually really surprised by this. That's a shock. I get it when it's. Do you know, one, one very important aspect of these movies is that they're not filmed in the United States. Yeah. So this one was made out of London and shot on location. And that's a way to get away from Star Trek because Star Trek is very California. That's true. A little bit of Vancouver. But yeah. I agree. All right. We'll check this out then. This is, what is it now? Oh, we're doing the soundtrack rate. I'm going to give it an EWTN for exactly what this needs. I know there's some disagreement on location music and that sort of thing, but Harry grease and Williams, the composer here, frequent collaborator with the Scots did all sorts of stuff. I really liked this soundtrack. I thought it was great. And maybe that's good. The sound work. Allow it. Will you allow it in your courtroom today? Yes. And I particularly liked that there were moments of this soundtrack where I felt like, oh, that sounds a little bit like the very beginning of Top Gun or that kind of thing. Because you don't have to do something totally unique. You can activate my sensors from things I've heard before. He's done a pretty interesting mix of stuff. He did recently Glade 8 or 2 is his most recent. He was the music behind The Martian. So working with Ridley Scott twice there, man on fire with Tony Scott again. But he's also done some really interesting things like Gilded Age two a year ago, Stevie Series. So he did a bunch of TV stuff before that chicken run dawned on the nugget. Yeah. Oh, tick man. The Meg 2 garbage movie that he probably made it better. House of Gucci. That was Ridley, right? Oh. Ridley Scott. I think. Last duel. Yeah, he works with these guys a lot. So yeah, I like this guy. I think he, I think he killed it here. I think he did a good job. We talked a little bit about the music when we watched the replacement killers and that's Harry Gricks and Williams. I know. I love that. He's very reliable. Yeah. He's sturdy. Sturdy music. He's sturdy. I like it. And he's kind of Hans Zimmer adjacent, like Glade 8 or 1 Hans Zimmer Glade 8 or 2, this guy. Let's see what else he did, some other things. Anyway, underrated to Harry Gricks and Williams score Cowboys and Aliens. Don't. Oh, really? I wanted to listen to some great music. This one of this year is as mentioned in Brian's song. That's right. Yes. Very nice. All right. Let's get to the social media post. This is where in 280 characters or less, you guys sum up the film. And because this is the last episode of the year, I'm going to change up this thing entirely. It's not going to be the same at all. So this year, this time we start with Randy. Spy game. I met a younger man in Vietnam. He was a nice boy, scout who loved his mom. I spent the rest of my life close to him and we went far, kill in folks on a whim. He never thanked me. He never thanked me for saving his life. But really, he was my only true wife. Wow. Wow. That's some Robert Frost shit going on here today. That's really good. Let's swing it over to Dunaway now. Now for some disappointment. Spy game. I had bitter prison sex. Wait, that was last week's reindeer games. Still fits. Hashtag. I was not disappointed. Yeah, that was good. No. Brian Abbott. Your turn. Spy game. After sacrificing a few pawns, Nathan Ricks, let me start over. Spy game. After sacrificing a few pawns, Nathan risks everything to get his bishop out of check. Nice. You know what? That was a bit of a mouthful. I don't blame you for hitching on it. Yeah. You don't want to have any time side to re-record some of those really fast-tucked parts of my intro. Yeah. And forgive me for this complaint, but did we run out of money or did we just run out of concern before de-aging Robert Redford, even a little bit for the Vietnam flashback? Yeah, they tried with lighting in a high collar, but it didn't really work. Yeah. Yeah. You put sunglasses on them to hide the bags under their eyes, but like he looked he looked older in 1971 than he did in 1991. Yeah. And Pitt looked the same. They weren't really trying to. It's fine. I still, I don't know, in the kind of what my, again, it kept coming back to what's with all these modern CRTs in the wrong year, like '91, they did not have those. And then I guess, again, again, this is the kind of movie you shouldn't think too hard. Right. The presentation is enough. Just enjoy it. Let it wash over you. Don't think too hard. The visual effects guy on this movie was Trevor Wood. And four years before this movie, he made Event Horizon, and I felt like that was just shockingly good in visual effects. Yeah. And I just wanted some more. I just give me a little bit more and smooth out Robert Redford's face. You said this was Trevor Wood? Trevor Wood. Trevor Wood. Now, a fun fact, he, when he was much younger, he slept over at ZZ Top's house and they decided to write a song about it the next day, called 'I Woke Up With Wood'. Just kidding. That is a totally made up story. I just was trying to, I was trying to, I wanted to divert people's assumptions that that was about a wiener. Okay. That's all. I want to take that right again. It was fun. We need a third tit. We need a third tit. All right. Let's get to the alternate titles. These were just handed to me. Oh my gosh. Right off the presses. This was almost called the two handsomeest actors in Hollywood, handsome history to handsome spy shit, handsome history, oh, in handsome history. Anyway, or a white club, because there's not a lot of black club, not a lot of people of color, although I guess in Asia and whatever, but back at home, back at Langley. Whoo. The white, the whites, the wonderful whites of Langley. All right. Let's get to a text from a listener, 8014710462, we actually have two and a voicemail today. Here's a quick one in text form from Barry. I don't know if this is our Barry or a different Barry. He says, Hey, film, Sackers had to write in about Die Hard 2 and it's production. Scott, I let it go once. But after a few times of saying how much Robert Patrick has aged in 25 years, he says, guess what? It's actually 35 years. Scott does math. Crazy. I know time flows by or flies by. And also Brian's renaming of the movie to die heart because of Powell eating too many twinkies was gold. Keep up the work, Barry. He does say PS. Good job. He says PS creamy peen. Again, I don't know if it's our Barry, but it's definitely a TMS listener. Here's another one from an anonymous person who says, Have you guys seen, sorry, predestination with Ethan Hawke? I have not currently on Netflix. Not sure if it's right for film sack, but I would love to hear anyone's take on the great mind F this movie is the time travel twists are nuts. Always down. Anybody see this? Predestination? No. I don't know what that is. I'm going to do a quick search. I feel like I have, but Ethan Hawke makes these movies. He makes so many movies that feel a little bit like gataca, just a little bit. Gataca likes. Yeah. Gataca likes. You know what? Oh, I know this movie because it because the poster bugs me. Michelle to you guys. So whenever I see this poster, he looks unnormally, unnaturally elongated. Have I seen this? Oh, yeah. I've seen this. Talk about Torso's that are too long, like what are you doing? Ethan. Okay. He is. They surely took an image of Ethan Hawke and I like Sarah, I like Sarah Snook. Yeah. I love the names. They're stuck too. Shiv. Noah Taylor? Shivroy. No, I can't either. I like him. Let's get this on the list. Cooney. Here. The future. He must protect his past and crotch. The guy that played, uh, where is he? Oh, and the Matrix reloaded. That's how I know I'm Christopher Kirby. We watched that guy recently on the show. Anyway, we'll consider it. We don't know what it is. We'll we'll do our best to think about that one. That seems like it might fit. Then we got final text here says film sack, please don't reset the Mario voice. It just gets better every week. Says also don't let Randy get away with saying Mario bros. It's Mario brothers. Damn it. That's funny. I mean, look, you need to hang out with a teenager. Yeah. They the younger generations all have different names for everything and it infects you. It's super smash. It's super smash brothers fault because super smash bros became so common to hear that now if you see a BROS, that's all anybody does in that generation. And Randy's right. Your kids will do it. Yeah. There's Dutch brothers. Dutch brothers is screwed up. My son and his fiance. Like they can't call it Dutch brothers. They have to call it Dutch bros. And then I say, Oh, what street do you live on? Do you live on st like I mean, do you live on years, even if it reads as an abbreviation, you pronounce the whole word. Yeah. You don't say the esque key. You say the escape key. Right. Exactly. You don't still say the ox, you know, do you have any ox cables? Yeah. No, an auxiliary cable. Yeah. Is that what you mean? You don't get it. I hate every also goes the other way too, because all I got to do is ask a kid if they want to go to Kentucky fried chicken and they'll look at you like where what? Well, they branded that though. They push that. You can't pronounce it. Yeah. At least you can. I could totally pronounce it. I just say let's go to the bucket. Let's go. I like the bucket. We had one of the KFCs with the giant bucket in the air. It was like one of the wonders of the world. We have the first one ever built here and it's still there and Murray in the very first kit. That's not very Kentucky. I know, right? That's you read the story. It's crazy. Salt Lake's the first Kentucky fried chicken. It makes no sense. Anyway, nicely done. Let's see. Oh, here's a here's a voicemail. This is a quick one about a movie and we talked about Kevin and Rand a lot every time he's on being fork and all that. Right. Steve saying we miss some. Hey, Scott, Brian, Brian, and Randy. This is Steve, calling from Grand Rapids and this has come up twice recently, so I thought I'd chip in and say I think the best Scott Grimes and Kevin Durant movie is Mystery Alaska. It didn't come up on any of the other discussions. It has great sports, comedy, touching moments and being fork is actually not a douche. Plus, there's also these little known people like Russell Crowe, Mary McCormick, Hank Azaria, Cole Meaning, We'll leave it a bit of it in Bert Reynolds. I'd love to know if you're familiar with this movie if you think this is sackable, so love you guys. Keep up the great work. Thanks for having me. Yeah. Never. Absolutely sackable. Definitely on my watch list, hard to find, but definitely, like we may sack it in 2025. Very unheard of this thing, it's a, it's, I assume it's about hockey and a small town in Alaska or something. Looks like, let's see, Russell Crowe looking like five years old in this, geez. Right. Ninety nine this was. It was only a year until Gladiator. Ninety nine this was. All the photos on IMDB are like posted stamp size. What the hell are we doing here? Goodness. All right. Oh, Bert Reynolds. Did he say Bert Reynolds? He must have. Did he? I don't know. I like Bert Reynolds. I touch that. I cut. I cut cold. Meany. Like you said, that looked free. If you want to see a picture of Bert Reynolds in the, in the spitting image of my dad in the fifties when he was young, I'm going to share it now. This is, and I'm not kidding, exactly what my dad looked like right there. Oh, wow. Oh, wow. That's uncanny. That's uncanny, actually. He didn't look like that toward the end, but he looked like that then. Worthy that sweaty. But then neither did Bert Reynolds. I know. He's a little shiny there, isn't he? I don't know what that's about. A little, little sweaty. Yeah. Well, all right, then. Thank you for that. And when we sacked Robin Hood, I was so excited about Scott Grimes that I just went through his entire philanthropy, and I was like, I'm adding anything to our list that is less than two hours long, anything, you know, I'm so ruling out Oppenheimer, right? When they, so when they filmed Robin Hood, you think Scott Grimes ran up to Russell Crohn said, hey, dude, remember that Alaska hockey movie we made? Do you remember that? Do you think that happened? I always wonder about this. When actors, you know, they do a thing when no one's a big name yet. And then one of them goes on to make huge fame like Russell Crohn. And then Scott Grimes bellies up to the movie and just happens to get a role inside it, a small role in that guy's next giant movie. Like, what is that like? Do you think it, do you think they're all friendly or they all like looking down on each other now? Like, how does it work in Hollywood? You got to be people, right? You're still human, right? I guess so. I don't know. It's weird. Hollywood's weird, man. They get weird. I think, yeah, I think we get what we put into it lots of times. I think the longer in Hollywood that we get, I'm not saying you can't go in weird. I'm just saying that once you get there, it's hard to know what reality is anymore. Yeah. Money and stuff do weird things to people. Lots of it, I mean. Look what we did to Corey Feldman. Yeah. Look at him now. Oh my gosh. What have we done? Sorry about that, Corey Feldman. We love you. Brewing them. Broken. Sorry, everyone. You want to leave a voicemail or a text similar to the fine folks who did today? You can. 801-471-0462 is that number. You can also email us at filmsack@gmail.com. I'd like to thank some regular patrons on our Patreon, John T. Curvin, Scott Tanas. Sorry, Taskin'n, Taskin'n. And a guy named McStomp? Whoo! McStomp. McStomp. You guys are all great. Big thanks to you guys. If you are members, you already know what you're getting, because you just got a drop yesterday from the great Brian Abbott talking about community performances, legendary comedians. Yeah. Not your stated, like lesser known or not lesser known, but like understated comedy performances from legends, from comedy legends. Yeah. Very cool host special that only you'll get if you're a patron, and you'll also get other benefits like no commercials ever, pre-show content every week, and like I said, these host specials, and some art related stuff in the mail from me. Movie related art in the mail is what I'm trying to say. Art related? It's related to art. It's not art. No. I didn't even question. Yeah. Like Chicago's aisle pizza. Yeah. Prince from drawings I did about movie shit. There you go. I nailed it. Anyway, other great monthly benefits. You just got to sign up today and find out patreon.com/filmsack. Our next movie is a movie I'm going to ship my pants over. Dark City. Dark City, I can't wait. Yeah. Finally some dark city. One of my favorite movies ever. I love this movie so much, Rufus Sewell freaking weird role from Kiefer Sutherland directed by Trevor. Oh, yeah. I forget. I always forget she's in this. Yeah. She's great in it. How do you forget that? I love that because she's not as big. She's not that big a deal in it. It's a smaller role. It's always a big deal every time. Yeah. Right. But it's from a big deal. Right. But legendary eye robot director, Alex Proius, and he's, that's not his best movie. Eyed robots. Okay. But this says, I think his best movie, this movie, Freaking Rules. He did the crow. The original crow. I love Dark City. Yeah. Watch that new crow. Now individuals. Here's the hang up on the only hang up I have. I think that the crow or sorry, I think that dark city is a masterpiece either way, but I think that the director's cut is legitimately like double good. Is that how we're going to watch it? I don't know. I don't know what Amazon has. That's where we're seeing it. Amazon has the hour and 40 minutes and I'm guessing that's probably cut for time. That means we get a, we get a unneeded Kiefer Sutherland narration. It's a little like Blade Runner the way they did it. It's okay. It's fine. But I'll take what we can get. I have the DVD. I wonder if I can. I have the DVD. I do too somewhere. We should use that. Yeah. Maybe I'll pull that out. I might even have a Blu-ray if they ever did it. I would have bought it. Let's see. So I have the VHS of this. So interesting what you have and, you know, in a given week and this is the first first week of a year, a new year where now we're going to think about what's Brian Ibbot singing about later? Mm-hmm. All right. Dude, this has Bruce Spence. So you got your, you got your Mad Max connection. You got William Hurt. He's the, the Whirly gig driver. What's the, what's the, the, the pilot? Yeah, that weird gangly looking dude. He was also in Thunderdome as a totally different character. Weirdly. Oh, right. Yeah. I guess they did that. They did that. They started sacking it already. They did that with Fury Road. Do I know the different times on the versions, like Brian, you said an hour 48 for the Amazon version? Yeah. Yeah. See. I don't see a time for the 2008 director's cut. I just see a list of, oh my God. The, all the stuff that's in the director's cut that's not in the. Yeah. There's a lot. Yeah. I don't know how much time, I don't know how much time it adds, but it sure adds to the movie. It's very good. I don't think, I think I bought the DVD before the director's cut was released. Interesting. This is a movie that toward, toward the latter part of Ebert's career. He had said it was one of the greatest films he'd ever seen. Oh, they got a new Blu-ray. Um, oh, this is interesting. And Christopher Nolan started thinking about the writing of the script for inception. This was influenced, uh, this movie influenced it more than any other. I'm telling you, man, we're in for it. It's going to be great regardless of which version we see. So only Netflix still sent DVDs because then I could request this one. Oh, man. That's the director's cut. Do you think they still, they make, they still do something for a few, like fancy people, like someone who's, like, they kept it going for, I like an idea of that, like a black Netflix labeled kind of thing. Yeah. The male. Yeah. Oh, platinum. Something. Yeah. The Luminati level stuff. Yeah. I mean, you're sure it's still, Randy, you sure it's still airing because I'm sitting on real good. It is. Okay. Because it's not on any of your services in the US, but I can say it's on crime, I believe you. I do too. And even if it's not, we're getting this done after freaking 12 years of the show. Yeah. Yeah, for sure. We're doing it. Yeah. And we're two days away from the great shuffling. Yeah. Exactly. Right. So who knows? Maybe that director's can't appear on another. Yeah. The director's cut is listed as 111 minutes. That's not too far off from the other. So what is the, uh, how do we see 90s? No, six deep right. So we get. So it's got to be one hour 51. Yes. I'm always fine. Ten minutes. Four of us. I'm always fine with one or two of us watching a different cut. I accept when it's a different movie. Like the payback director's cut ends up making it a completely different movie. And that's like, I don't want to watch a different movie than you guys. Yeah. In that case, a lesser movie. I think that directly. Like when it's just, it's just added footage, uh, you know, extended scenes, et cetera. I think it's kind of. Three minutes difference. I still might spring for the, um, uh, it's only, it's only five bucks to buy it on Amazon Prime versus rent it for 419. So 80 cents more to Ivy HD. I might actually buy it. I'm going to do that. To money. I didn't know you was made of check out, um, Apple might have it for similar. Let's see. Oh, yeah. That would be. I'd much rather have it on Apple. Let's see if I can do that real quick. Oh, my, this is the most dark city talk or this is the most next week movie talk we've ever done. Yeah. Yeah. We're so very excited. All right. Here it is. It is. Yeah. Same. Well, it's a dollar difference. $399 to rent, uh, more to buy HD. Is it HD? I think it is. On Apple. I think I'm getting it. Oh, 99. I'm getting it. Unless this isn't the director's cut because I really do want that version. I really love director. If you can see the time on, oh, yeah, the one on Apple says an hour 41 minutes. So that is even shorter than the damn way we go by two versions, HD two versions, dark city directors kept 999 to, uh, to buy worth it. 999. I'm doing that regardless. I didn't know they had it. Yeah. The right. See, this is why I'm so adamant about this. This isn't one of those movies where they put in some lost footage. It's where things are different. It's a blade runner level. Yes. There you go. It's blade runner level. So you still can respect the theatrical, but you, but you just know intrinsically that that director's cuts better. That's like this. Oh, this movie. So good. I can't wait. All right. Uh, that'll be next week. I literally wrote on my notes, dark city, colon, gonna shit my pants. Danny. I'm really excited to be dark city in my pants. I love it so much. All right. Um, that's going to do it for us. Film sack.com, uh, is where you want to go for all the stuff we've talked about. And a quick note, just a, a thanks for a great year. Everybody, uh, our next episode will be the first of 2025. Um, not the first, like the first, first, I mean the first episode of 2025. The first movie. Yeah. Yeah. This is what we're saying. It's a great week. Yeah. I think so too. But, uh, you guys were awesome this year. Just a great year of film sack and, uh, really appreciate the listeners and the viewers and everybody who's, uh, been out there, uh, pining for more film sack. We've been at this for a while and you guys are a dedicated bunch. So we, uh, we just appreciate you as we exit to this year, uh, we hope for a good 2025. We will be here to make it so your weekends are good. Okay. We can go. That's all we can do for you is make your weekends better. Yeah. Uh, your weekdays are up to you. All right. Good luck. Uh, that is going to do it for us, for me, for Brian, for Brian and for Randy with half the foreplay. We'll see you next time. Those pants are made for froggen. If you know what I mean, I, I actually don't. Frogpans.com. We need a third tip. So good. So good. So good. So good. So good. Amazing deals on active wear for all the ways you move are at Nordstrom rack stores. Now, how did I not know rack has Adidas? Oh, I love these new mics. 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