[Music] Welcome back to another episode of Suds and Cinema, my name's Kyle. And I'm Jacob. This is episode 223 and tonight we got a review of Nosferatu for you. Probably our last most anticipated film of this year. It's gotta be. It's gotta be, yeah. Plus we got some other stuff we have been watching. Jacob, how are you doing? I'm doing grays as first episode post Christmas. It is, yeah. We didn't really say anything, but we kind of took like a smaller or bigger break in between episodes, so happy holidays and Mary Chrysler to everyone who celebrates. Happy Ford. How was your Christmas? Pretty quiet, I was here, Mingju went back. So I've just spent it alone with the cats and played a lot of games. And that's about all I did. Very cool. Pretty low key for myself. Saw parents. Just did normal, normal family stuff. I almost watched Nosferatu that day, but then I looked and it was like packed in there. I'm like, nah. Was it? Yeah. It was still busy when I went on Friday. Yeah, it was like, there's quite people when I went still, but like still, I got a good seat, not like having to sit on the corner to watch it. Yeah. Well, that's good. Okay. Well, Icebreaker, what was your, what was the best gift that you got? The gift of Christmas spirit. No, actually, no, Mingju got me an iPad, actually. Oh. Yeah. Wow. I'm baller. Stepping up in the world. I have almost all Mac things. Well, cool. Apple things, I guess. Pretty sweet. Yeah. What about you? I got, okay. I'll do a tie. I got, I got a new watch. It's been a long time since I've got another watch. And my old ones are just, you know, out of style, out of date. So I got a new watch. And then I got Christophe Kurweschke's three colors trilogy on 4K. Ooh. Stay tuned for that. And an upcoming premium. Is that the one we're supposed to be doing with Brad? Nope. That's David Lynch. Just the three colors one I'll choose eventually. So I have them now. And I'll want to watch them. Need a reason to watch them too. Watch them too. Buy them or subscribe to your end again. Well, cool. All right. Let's keep removing here. Let's get into our featured beer. Why don't you, why don't you introduce this one? Yeah. This is the first from your shipment to me that we're dipping into. And the first one you grabbed out of your box? Yep. And the first one I grabbed out of my box. And possibly the worst one of the one. You know, I actually chose this one. I actually chose, I think, two Czech ones, didn't I? This one was Amber though. The other one I thought was just a logger. Maybe not. Maybe it was another just logger. I tried to get a variety of styles in there. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Got to do it. Yeah. But yeah, this one is Polotmavi. I have no idea how to actually pronounce that. It's from Charles Town Fermentory. And yeah. Oh, Polotmavi apparently means Czech, Amber. Yeah. Okay. I typed that in. And I'm like, how do I find this? I got to type in the brewery. Which the description for it literally just says, check style Amber Lager. Yep. No fucking around on this one. Yeah. Apparently it's a style of vault driven Amber Lager's originally originating from Cechia, which is actually like the new name. I don't know if you heard about the whole thing. They're no longer the Czech Republic. I did not. They're Czech. Cechia. Cechia. Cechia. Okay. Yeah. Was it not politically correct anymore or something? Or what's the reasoning? I don't remember something like that. It's something like Czech Republic was what they were called after like they split from like Czechoslovakia, but like actually historically they're like Czechia. So they are identified more with Czechia than Czech Republic. But they still go by both, I guess. But what's differentiates them? There's a slight amount of unfermented extract remaining in the finished beer. Apparently. I was trying to find what makes it like what is a Czechia. Yeah. Mmm. This one is coming out. Yeah. Charlestown Fermentory out of Charleston, South Carolina. So yeah, I mean, it's coming in at 3.84. But there's only like 369 readings. So I don't know. I don't even know if I've had a Czech. A Palatmave before. Style guide. Oh, actually I have, apparently. We're not. Let's say they have their own style on tap. So it shouldn't be that hard to find. Oh, from Seattle. Do we have it together? Trying to get to my loggers right now. Logger hardly nowhere. Nope. I literally have one and it's from OPEC brewing out of Seattle. Hmm. Don't know when I had that or why I had that. Oh, wait. You're in the picture though. You literally in my picture. I was going to say it's probably we were together. But that sounds like something that you would order out of brewery. You're literally in my picture. Hey. Must be a good picture then. It's great picture. But yeah, that's literally like all there is about this. Oh, I didn't say it is coming at 6%. So that's pretty nice for a lager. I'm guessing I don't really know what to expect. I'm guessing kind of some dustiness to it. Some caramel and very light and easy to drink. And also we did find out that Nosferatu was partially filmed in Czech. Yeah. Yep. That's proud of it. So boom. Tie in. I can give you the Google AI overview on a lot of a there's not a style. Yeah. A lot of a is a Czech style amber lager with a name that translates to half dark appearance amber and color flavor balanced smooth and sweet with notes of toasted bread crust caramel and peppery spice. Nice. A combination of floor malted bahimian pilsner and floor malted bahimian dark malt. Shops are Czech size or Columbus. ABV is typically around 5% slightly higher and it's an imperial. And then this description reads a lot of a is a light is a lighter version of the Czech dark lager and is sometimes considered the Czech equivalent to Germany's Dunkels. It's a malt forward beer with a hop character and bitterness similar to a Czech pale lager. So that's actually kind of good to hear. Yeah, it sounds like because I do a good dunkle. A good German dunkle is good. But this one being from South Carolina. That's the thing. It's not going to be typically, you know, full I will say so I bought this from that really good brew it's called the brew shop downtown here. And they don't usually like pick they have like really good taste and what they put out in their store because it's I think it's just a small little independent owned one. So and this brewery is coming in a 4.04 average. So, okay, well, you've all you've done is raise the expectations. So this thing. My socks are here. You ready to try it? Yeah, let's do it. Smells like beer. That's pretty dark still. I guess it's half dark. a huge head on this thing. Not too bad. I got like a finger pouring it very gently, I guess. I'm trying to but shit, they didn't say something was still alive in it, right? It's going to take a second to go down. So if you want to start, it's all you. Yum, I like that quite a bit, it's it's very toasty. Now, before I still got about two and a half fingers, compare it to a regular amber. Um, I don't really I actually it's been so long since I've had one. Maybe I don't know if I still I didn't I don't usually like regular amber. So I don't and I but I honestly don't remember the last time I had one so I can't even think of what they taste like. Okay, I usually avoid them. Yeah, I literally wonder when the last time I had amber was, but yeah, this is good. It's commonly toasty. It's kind of like a a marzen, but with a more toasty taste to it like roasty. Yeah, it's good. I like it. Easy to drink. I think I can get past that. Here we go, there's a flavor said a good boom. Okay, it was good on the front had a very weird aftertaste. It's kind of like multi like sweet and yeah, it's a little weird. I like it though, okay, second one, I didn't get that same heavy coat, your tongue sure is that was weird though, my first drink was really weird. Okay, it's not terrible. One be a go to, but it is, you know, this is like a this is like one of those classic beers. Yeah, this is something you drink on a big like stein glass like yeah down at the pub with a bunch of boys. Yeah, this could be like a this could be like a nice elitist beer. I mean, this is like the commoner beer in Czechia, right? Exactly. That's what makes it elitist in America. You know, to be fair though, like this does have like quite a bit of flavor and a lot of the beers that, you know, I mean, Pilsner's American pills and are known for having like very little, I mean, mostly of the big light beers, right? It's like having almost no flavor. So like, yeah, I would drink this way over that any day. I don't know what like a real classic, the classic Pilsner taste. This is still too like roasty and multi for me. And it's not like the roasty, not like a black lager or like I like actually like a Czech dark lager when they go full dark. I like those a lot more than this half style, but it is, it's better than like a in a mare and amber ale. Yeah. I feel like this is pretty crushable. I would see, I'm getting that taste again. I'm really trying to pinpoint exactly what it is or how to even describe it, but I don't think it's going to be that crushable for myself. I think most lagers are just inherently crushable because of like the style and thinness of them. Yeah, that's fair. Tastes very European. It does. The third Europe for beer, not like UK, yeah, they still haven't figured out. Yeah, the Eastern Europe. Okay, I don't have too much else to say. Crushability, I'm going to give it a three. I would say we do quarter ratings and crushability or just half ratings. There's half star. All right. I'm going to give it a three five then. I think it's a bit. Okay. Split the difference three, two, five. Actually, overall, I'm like a three, five, maybe three, seven, five, if if I keep drinking this and it either get used to it or that taste doesn't make an appearance again. Yeah, I think I'll do a three, seven, five, like just because I haven't had the style like ever. Well, once before, and I don't remember if I liked it that day, so if I taste it again, I might go down to a three, two, five. We'll see somewhere in that range, but yeah, I like it. I would be more interested in trying some more from the style. Yeah, I mean, I got a diversified so got a diversified the portfolio. I'm trying to do better at that because, you know, there's only so many like sowers and IPAs and styles like sometimes I need to get into those other styles I avoid. Nah. Good. Just stick with that one. I agree. I agree. Um, okay, anything else on a lot, a lot, Mavi? Nope. I wish I knew how it was actually pronounced. Well, you were dogging on me for, well, I was more Travis was dogging on me for my Italian pronunciations and premium, which is now available on Bandcamp for an ordination of one dollar. So you can hear that, maybe try to tell you names, Japanese names, just getting shit on the whole time. It is funny. Figured it was your turn. It was a good time. Yeah. But maybe I'm pronouncing it correctly. See, at least we don't actually know how this is supposed to be pronounced. That is true. Well, did you know how the other ones are supposed to be pronounced that I think definitely the Japanese ones. I don't know about Italy. No. Okay. Well. All right. Ready to move on to our featured review. Let's do it. All right. We are talking Nastferatu. Nastferatu was written and directed by Robert Eggers. It is adapted from the novel by Bram Stoker Dracula and inspired by the screenplay Nastferatu by Henrik Galin. It stars Lily Rose Depp, Nicholas Holt, Bill Scarsgard, Aaron Taylor Johnson, and Willem Defoe. Plotsnapsis reads, "A gothic tale of obsession between a haunted young woman and the terrifying vampire infatuated with her, causing untold horror in its wake." Jacob, did you succumb to the darkness? I'm going to come. Oh, yeah. No, I really liked it. I wouldn't say it's my favorite Eggers movie. But it definitely, I would want to watch it again. There's a lot to like about it, and I just love seeing him get this money again, especially after Northman, which didn't do that great in theaters, but then ended up doing really well overall. So I was glad that that happened so that people just keep giving him more money to do things like this, because yeah, I don't think he missed on this one either. And he had to live up to kind of a big choose for this movie because it's just so widely beloved for some reason. I mean, I get why the originals love, but it's not fun to watch today. It does not hold up. People are just crazy if they think it's still actually good. It's just not, but I respect it. And I think this is a great way to bring it into this age and his attention to detail and his love of the folklore and these kind of period pieces, yeah, he killed it and everyone involved is great. And yeah, it was super entertaining this. I think this was the most just well, I don't know if it helped watching Dracula, which we did talk about in one of our premiums, because when I hear about that, France for Coppola. Yep. But because I think that actually helped watching that because like I could follow this story quite well. Wait, haven't you seen the original? I mean, it's hard. I did, yeah, I did watch it, but that was a while ago, and yeah, yeah, I do. I would agree. Dracula makes it easier to follow both that movie and this movie. Yeah. And so, yeah, I don't, and also I will just say for me, it felt paced better. And yeah, this, I think this is almost like the definitive, like Dracula movie now. If you want to just go by the original story, yeah, it was, I liked it quite a bit. The atmosphere, everything. So what are you fucking moron? Well, I liked it. And I would agree there is a lot of things to like about it. But overall, I, this is not going to be something that sticks with me or that I'm probably going to want to watch again. Do you think that's it or is that because like it's just adapted, you know, it's not like a. Nope, I think it's the movie because even after now there could be, I could have like a huge change of heart on this, just like with Bram Stoker's Dracula because I remember watching that for the first time and really thinking it was like super mediocre and super mid. And then the second time was when I watched it for the premium and I went up quite a bit. I still only have it out of three and a half. But I think about that movie a lot, like I find myself thinking about that movie all the time and kind of having the urge to rewatch it. And it's only been a couple of days. So it's really too early to say with this version of Nosferatu, but I've never really had the inkling to rewatch the original Nosferatu. And I feel like this is going to be very similar. I just think that this, the version that he followed, which is very similar to the original silent film and the way that he does it, I thought he was going to take that and make it a lot darker and a lot more fucked up. And some people watching this might be like, "What are you talking about? This movie is so fucked up." I don't really think it's that dark or anything. I thought he was really going to push the envelope more with some of the visuals and stuff. And I just felt that it was kind of corny from like in a lot of scenes and moments. And I couldn't get past that stuff. I was not drawn into the movie. So you know, some of that stuff might be more personal and subjective rather than objective, but that's how I felt watching it. I felt Lily Rose Depp was pretty cartoony. I never really bought into her performance. Bill Skarsgard is 100% stand out. I mean, he completely disappears into the role. I know that's kind of unfair because you don't really get to see him super clearly that often. Even his voice performance is totally transformative. You don't hear his voice at all. You don't see him at all. And the first scene, like where you meet him the first time in the castle was awesome. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. There's a lot of great, like visually, there's a lot of great things happening, a lot of great light and darkness and shadow play going on. All that stuff is good. Like I said, I'm going to be positive on this movie and there's a lot of things to like about it. I just think it's by far Eggers' worst movie. I think it's kind of boring and sorry to totally counteract your point or to just directly counter your point. But I thought it was paced not very well. And yeah, I just, I think the source material and sticking to that silent, the screenplay from the silent film Nastra 2 is a weaker version of Dracula. I think the Bram Stoker's Dracula is the definitive version, the best version. No. I just do. I like him being Dracula. I like the brides. I all of like the magical. And that was less corny though. Come on. It is, it is like it's as corny, but or more corny, but it, I think, however, he is, it's more so like the, the tone in that movie fits the vibe. Like this, I felt like the tone was supposed to be so dour and so serious. And then we have Lily Rose that sticking her tongue out sideways and making all these faces like she's the girl from possession. I'm like, sorry, you're, you're, you're not her. Okay. Don't try that. I will agree. And like I expression that because going into it, I heard about how this is going to and like I don't, I don't love her. And like, I heard that this was like a stand out for her. I do disagree and I was trying to take it so seriously, but some of the convulsions and stuff, I'm just like, this is cheesy and it was funny. It didn't affect me that much to like, but yeah, I will say that I did like laugh a little bit at one point and I was just like, oh, that's not a good sign. Yeah, exactly. I just felt like like a lot of things, a lot of scenes and moments, especially with her character and like the love angle and stuff. A lot of that stuff just came across Tony when corny, when the tone was when the tone was supposed to be super serious and like dark, gothic horror. So yeah, I guess that's it for my general thoughts. If you want to go, I guess there are spoilers. So if there's anything that we need to spoil from here on out, we can say it's an open book, which can you really spoil? Well, yeah, a story that's 100 years old, especially, well, I mean, not a lot of people see in the original probably, especially, I mean, younger people, but if anybody wants to seek that out then, you know, stop listening or finish, you know, see this movie if you haven't. I do think the, I like in Bram Stoker's Dracula also how like the reason that he's drawn to her is because of the resemblance to his, you know, first love, like his original love. And he like, he feels like she's reincurrent, like a reincarnation of her in a sense. And that's, that's like a cool angle. I thought it was like, I think it's kind of dumb in this that there isn't a reason. I don't know if that's supposed to fit thematically with the whole is evil born or, or, or, is it in thing or what did they say is evil, like created or in things that some, I forget the line, but something to do with evil and like, you know, just normal people and how she, you know, they call, they say that she's born of something, something, whatever that draws him to her. And yeah, it just is like, it's supposed to be ambiguous, I guess. But I just think the, the motive in Bram Stoker's Dracula works better for like the obsession. Yeah, I mean, I guess that's pretty fair if you believe in romance and love, but you don't, but I thought like, in this one, he was literally, like he said, he's like, he's just like an appetite, right or something like that. And like, he was, yes, he had like this kind of power, right? It was like alluded to that she has some kind of power, like what's a wonderful said that she would have been a priestess. But if it was like a different age, yeah, that's what I'm saying is like, she's born, like they say all these things, but it's never explained or anything like that. Not that I needed to be explained, but it's just like the only reason that he is drawn to her specifically. Yeah. But I guess it's more and like you're in this magical fantasy world, right, where vampires are clearly like exist and the thing that stops him from like taking her back or whatever is because like a bolt, like a vow that she made to Thomas Hutter. Yeah. He's like, you have to, you have to break your vows with him and recommit yourself on your own volition. Yeah. Like some, I don't know, just it's, it kind of seems like it's, you know, pulled out of thin air as like a plot thing rather than just making sense in the world, like in the magical realism world. Yeah. I mean, I can see that I guess like in Dracula, it was more like humanizing him and like that's why it's easier to like follow him. But in this one, he was more like a demon, like entity and so it was, it was just like going for a different feel. Yeah. Yeah, I get that and they like there's the whole thing with the plague too and how it, you know, shows up when he shows up and like, is that supposed to be coincidence or is that like a metaphor for, you know, him bringing death to that town? Like there's, there's some stuff thematically that I feel like they touch on, but it doesn't really go that far into it and it just kind of left me wanting more. Yeah. It makes me kind of want to read like the original one because I don't actually know like how the original story goes. It based, except based on like now these like two movies that are more like diving into the action and then the original sign of the film would come on, like I don't remember shit from that, but yeah, which this is like the exact same plot, like that. So like other than like those two movies, what the original story was actually like, like maybe this is more like knowing Eggers. This could be more like authentically true to the original story of Dracula, which is why it is this way because literally that's just how it was and he's just paying homage to it versus like Dracula is like, I'm going to make it a love story, love and love story. Yeah. Yeah. Like I get that too, where he probably wanted to stay true to the source and you know, a lot, a lot, like exactly what you're saying where he didn't want to divert too far away from it because maybe he's such a huge fan of the source material, but I think that can be putting too many constraints on, especially when this is like, you know, partially my own fault too with expectations, but I thought it was going to be a much darker, more fucked up story or version of that, like of that Nas Pro 2 and it is obviously more dark and fucked up than the silent film because that was 100 years ago, we're 20, 24 now, but just with like the subject matter and like the things that are happening in it literally, I thought it was going to push the envelope a little bit more and yeah, I just don't think it delivered on a lot of those expectations like in the beginning to like even in the first scene, she's supposed to be like a kid, is she not like probably barely of the age like where she would be able to be to bear a child, which is saying it now, like thinking about it now is fucked up, but back in the 1800s, it was like what, 12 to 14, so that's like how old she's supposed to be then, I don't know how you could get away with showing that but like you know any kind of way to show that really sets the tone and says like yeah, this is like this is fucked up or you know that or like this would even happen and he is like pursuing this and then comes back years later when she's older obviously and then they have that whole you know that the whole story happens but yeah, which is which is why I think like I don't know it's I just know with like I guess this is Eggers first time like as an adaptation, I don't know if the Lighthouse and stuff was like adaptations or not or they were just kind of him doing his own story, I don't think yeah, I actually I think you're right, you're right on that, so I think that's what can like hurt a little bit but also at the same time I like to believe that there is more like I don't know it's hard to say like without really knowing the full story of the original what maybe like if it's really like regressive or something for his time like this does come off a lot worse for me but like if he's trying because if he doesn't just bring into a modern lane just keeps it in the past and so accurately that's just kind of fucked up and like feels like wrong in a lot ways but I want to feel like maybe there is more and like maybe this is trying to show like might be more metaphorically like how women were treated at that time and how like like maybe or like doesn't even have to be like a real thing like in many of the cases he never actually seemed like a real thing more like a yeah because a lot of scenes they it's any scene with him usually like the the cut is like that somebody waking up so like it's very dream like yeah so it's like maybe it like was saying something about that time like maybe she was just more like I don't know like aware or sexually like aware for her age or something she was supposed to feel like shame for it and she found like herself like in this darkness and that's where she found their comfort and like or lack this darkness the appetite right and then like but she was like considered normal when she just found a normal guy and like he's not that exciting he's just normal blah blah blah and boring and whatever but like it's a normal guy and now she seems normal to everybody right it is like said that like oh I'm you're you're normal again right as soon as he comes back and stuff but like when she has like her moments when she's like trying to like she's like seems like a demon to him even at one point and she tries to get him to be like more like to satisfy her appetite that darkness then even then she like breaks out of that and she can't just be herself and then she just kind of accepts it at the end that she'll never and she like dies do you feel like that she I never really get the I mean I'm not maybe that's not exactly what you're trying to say maybe it's you're saying it could be something similar but it's I just don't get the feeling like that she that she really doesn't love Thomas well there is that like moment when they're together alone and it's like you'll never like be like him or whatever yeah see I I mean I guess that's true like like his draw like it's supposed to be so powerful like and he's like supposed to be this being that she desires for I guess no reason but you know or something that we can't understand I guess but I don't really get the sense that she is like struggling between choosing the two yeah that's what's hard or that's why that's why I want to go back into and like okay now I've just watched it now I want to go back in and like look for more focus on these like specific things no yeah I'm I'm willing to have this movie unlock it for me Jacob like I mean I didn't love the lighthouse even the first time I watched it it wasn't until I kept going back to I'm like oh my god this like my fuck one of my favorite movies ever now like that I just kept going back to it and back to and I was just rewarded more and more on rewatches I the witch I will say was even harder for me to go back to I do think this okay so speaking of the witch I do think this is gonna benefit from a rewatch with subtitles yes my god it wasn't nearly as bad as the witch but there were quite a bit of moments that were kind of hard to follow yeah it might have been the theater or maybe it's no it was mine too yeah because I had the same problem I wouldn't catch a couple of things I was just like they need to like turn up the voices a little bit apart yeah exactly it wasn't quite tenant but like it was pretty bad at parts okay yeah good so I'm not alone I thought because I also sat in the very back of theater I was like am I just too far away from the speakers no I literally is like I can't wait to watch this again with subtitles yeah okay well that's that's good to know yeah um I do like I just like I I got to believe he put his own other things in it other than I mean also it'd be very nerdy movie focal or loving of him to to just be like super like true to the material without inserting all his little shit too but I just kind of don't believe that I feel like there's probably a lot of egg or metaphors in there that like you just have to go to I mean literally I would say the Lighthouse is fucking stupid unless you like look into it but yeah I could see that I could see that I just yeah I think I think he could have taken more liberties with the source material to change a couple things to like I said I think it should have been darker and more fucked up and I think if he's really trying like the description reads Nasaratu is a gothic tales of obsession between a haunted young woman and the terrifying vampire infatuated with her that's like the part that I'm struggling with I don't ever feel like she's like obsessed with him or like there's there's an equal pursuit there I feel like she is sedated for the most part for the maturity of it and keeps like trying to cast away these dreams and like there's never really an embrace of that until the end and it that's that is only in an effort to kill him or capture him right yeah yeah I mean I will yeah it's difficult I guess it depends on what you think like obsession is that's sure yeah yeah because I mean she definitely is constantly thinking it's like do you think what was happening to her was his cause or because she's obsessed with them I don't know yeah yeah because like it's not like he really had that effect on anybody else except I guess maybe almost Thomas but even he was able to easily break away from it it was only her that was another thing that was weird like he his escape and then the like the transition from that to going getting back into the town like I was like is he supposed to be dying or what's he recovered very quickly he recovered pretty quickly but I don't like how much blood was lost that was just another weird thing that I feel like kind of played out just the way it played out I guess it was yeah if we're comparing things what fucking Dracula and count agrees what happened there to he got back it's fucking confusing also yeah I feel at least Thomas had more to do later than count agrees maybe in the book that's like he just comes back nobody knows how to show it but they have to show it and I guess we just need to read it and I'm like to quash this yeah gotta gotta I think it's very long yeah no it's a novella it's to it's got to be pretty short yeah I just like the only thing that kept me from is I heard it's like pretty much all because they even made like reference to it because he wrote letters to her right and I think the actual like story wasn't it like letters that he was writing to her I have also book her like letters yeah I don't know that's why I heard I don't I don't know I didn't know either I'm good I guess I'm gonna read that got a yep gotta buy it tonight yeah what else what else what else we do you think of the ending oh I was gonna say that to the ultimate and I liked it a lot when I loved the actual final scene yeah with the flowers that he said stuff like in the blood I was like yeah nice what huh the flowers yeah that um willing to foe put around them I mean it looked like a gothic painting oh yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah he's on land on top of her knees fucking skin and bones got no muscle we need a little matter yeah yeah I like that scene and I almost liked her sacrifice too because it kind of showed like that she's in control but yeah that I do like how you know there's that that scene with willing to follow the doctor and he says like you know this it's it has to be you to make this choice and kind of telling her that she's gonna be the ultimate one to to put an end to it because I was wondering to like their plan didn't really make sense yeah cuz they literally was just to get him away from her to get a chance to do it like we just have to destroy the sarcophagus but I think that was the actual story though I think the original story was that right I like will him to foes performance but that's another thing too that I felt didn't match the tone because the tone I thought at least was supposed to be very serious and maybe that was an expectation that I shouldn't have had just knowing Eggers and like the story that he wanted to tell maybe it's supposed to be a little bit tongue-in-cheek and like a little bit of a lighter thing because like his some of his lines and you know his performance didn't match like ace a very serious or a super serious movie yeah I agree I felt that too like he brought the company he killed it but yeah he definitely brought some levity to it and what was pretty serious kind of to that point yeah yeah so I don't know maybe the maybe the whole movie is supposed to be like a little bit lighter than expected and like have a be a little bit tongue-in-cheek I don't know this is Eggers one for them because this one like is doing well I think right I don't know I think it's doing well box office I have right now at 43 million on a budget of 50 so oh I mean it's in the first weekend yeah so yeah less it's been less than a week so we'll see that's probably it's could be something that going into the new year has better legs because I don't think anything else is coming out for a while at least it's on my radar like anything big yeah I'm assuming wicked is still like dominating right now but this would be great counter programming to that yeah yeah I think it's gonna do well and then we're gonna get that just means we'll get keep you any more Eggers movies so I mean yeah I hope it does well I guess just for that reason but I gotta say as soon as he left a 24 it's been just a gradual decline for him for my for me my eyes personally I like the Northman I've only seen it once that's also something I need to rewatch but like I said this for me is easily the worst of the Eggers I mean I think I think that's pretty easy to say for me to okay and I think that's mostly to do with just not knows for how to not for whatever itself is just like I want to see him doing his his thing like creating versus adapting yeah or like I said if you're gonna adapt something take some liberties with it and make it your own you know you could have yeah you could have the the skeleton of Nosferatu in there and then make it your own but okay anything else on Nosferatu I am tapped as well what are you gonna give it out of five prosthetic dingdongs I'm gonna give it a heavy four heavy four I was like close to a four point five but okay I am a light 3.5 oh so we're pretty close well opposite ends of the light the light yes if you only look at our scores we are very close and I said I said it would be positive out overall and I'm open to rewatching it so probably not this year I don't think it's gonna jump that high no okay let's move on to some nano reviews once just so go ahead there you do what I saw you log with a sa oh did I not talk about that no yeah I did I watched move a sa and it was fine I would say it was better than it was better than the Lion King remake okay yeah it was honestly it's pretty interesting story they definitely switched up the style of the CG a lot and I would have to expressive yeah which was a huge problem with the original it doesn't look nearly as like photo realistic as last one but that's fine like it's animation it doesn't have to and honestly I still think they should have went even further maybe but I think they're kind of maybe hamstrung by the first one if they made it look too stylized then like people this one looks so much worse than the last one which I think is already a thing that is happening so I think this the little changes made did well I would say so the songs in this one pretty bad I knew it was him though I could just tell is I'm like this sounds like one manual man and I said I saw it at the end I'm like oh it is that makes sense no I would say especially there's this one song with like the bad guy in it and it was like man it was like bad I don't get it it wasn't like they were the worst ever but you know when you're comparing when I'm comparing to my like original love of the original movie which is maybe just nostalgia let's be honest these ones the first ones a banger get real yeah these ones aren't catching I'm not like saying can you feel or any of those so yeah I just can think of the one being especially like a hard watch and they really had a lot of songs this one I don't remember the original having like that many but I guess it probably did there's a lot of songs on this one but yeah the story itself and everything was super interesting as far as prequels go you kind of know like this gives you like how scar came to be and I thought that was well done and like it made sense how he got his scar it obviously did and you can like immediately tell when it's about to happen you're like oh this is when he gets the scar but like is a good point I will say it kind of leads they're both kids movies and the first one was like you know you're trying to like meet up to a point to give like motivations to a character was never meant to have like the motivation to become what he did and I think they did a pretty good job at that but still like you can't just pretend even knowing all of this after receiving this movie that that is the same scar like because like his actions while explained as a pretty well just still still seem like a big leap to him actually killing Mufasa right right versus like this one like it's a little rough at the end when they try to get into like where Lion King starts basically almost it's just like a bit of a stretch but it was a fun story way better than the last one like yeah I like I'm not I enjoyed watching it he's worth a shot like a watch it's not any it's not a masterpiece by any means but yeah for myself this is um at most a Disney plus watch no time to fit this in yeah yeah I mean honestly I I don't think I would recommend you watch this unless you like super interested in knowing this story pretty cool not at all like this is one like I could convince mings you to go to movies for the first time and like months with me so I was like hey it's a Lion King movie want to go sure and you know it was a fine watch but yeah I think all the changes they made for the CG and stuff worked well and the story was fine it it's a pretty cool so it's just living on the laurels of the original but I mean that's better than just copying the original completely and making it worse that's true shot for shot and it could be even better than like a lot of the sequels so like was it one and a half and two oh you don't like those come on I don't know that that's probably been yeah I would have to watch it's been so fucking long but that I mean they are animated still hand animated so they probably would win now but all those also were never meant all those were straight to video stuff yeah exactly this was and used to do sequels and theaters it was just they would have their their IP and then straight to the equals probably that's good idea yeah probably a good model yeah but that you know they're reaching right now they're kind of struggling a bit so yeah for sure yeah I mean I would give it I still give it like a 2.5 oh okay that's what I was gonna ask so still I would say fine is usually a three for me but okay it's very made like if it wasn't Lion King based at all I probably it might actually be a three but because it's still try it came too much from that and some of the songs were fucking shitty yeah I got you yeah okay I caught up with Clint Eastwood's latest film okay his last film juror number two I think this hits a niche very well like you know those types of movies were like they don't make movies like this anymore that's one of these that's exactly what this is it you know it looks fine there's like a bunch of actors in it we're like oh I know them I know them I know them that's mostly you know Nicholas Holt Tony Collette JK Simmons let's say he's like the main three plus the guy that's up for trial I forget what he's from anyway like a sleek courtroom drama that's basically all it is and you know there's supposed to be this profundity to it of like this just moral dilemma that that the juror is facing where he's like oh I you know I think I did the crime and but I don't want to throw away my life and I got this wife who's pregnant and it goes from there it's fine it's a it's a lot better than I would say most of Clint Eastwood's recent stuff but at least it's pretty competently directed it doesn't look like there's not that many instances where you're like okay maybe they should have you know that did another take here Clint infamous for doing one take only he's try to pump out 10 more movies before he dies but as long as he's not in them yeah I get yeah that's that's true thank God he wasn't in this um yeah it's it's all just fine I would say though probably the worst part about it is the script and the dialogue a lot of like corny exchanges of dialogue and just yeah not very good writing um but even though even like the overall story in writing like isn't I don't really think it's that you know profound or like what it's trying to get at it doesn't really seem that complex it's just it's very basic it's it's for the boomers um it was fine I'd give it like a three out of five uh do you have anything else I don't okay I'll this one I'm really gonna burn through because um I did end up liking it like I overall sorry I'll say what it is first I watched a la chimera directed by Alice or rocker I think uh and this has my boy Joshua Connor from Challengers in it technically a 2024 release even though I think it did festivals last year but it is about a Englishman who just gets out of prison reconnects with his tribe of friends from the Italian countryside and they basically are just tomb raiders and they that's how they make their their living and um yeah I was it was described as art house Indiana Jones it's definitely not that dual don't go into thinking that at all anybody that's listening that's thinks thinks they might like this um there is like some fun stuff with the gray robbing and stuff but it's not it's like very I think it's pretty minimal to the overall plot of the movie uh I've think it's more about him just trying to find to make a better life for himself and can he move on from his past and his past relationship and that's kind of the center and there's a a really good connection between the beginning and the end that I really liked um there is some like stylistic choices that I don't know if they exactly work for me where they do some uh not speed ramping because it doesn't go up and then back down but it goes like plays at like 1.5 speed where they're moving slightly faster kind of like a kind of like you would see in an old style comedy um and I think it's meant for comedic effect but anyway there's there's stylistic choices in it that work and don't work um but overall I think it's kind of boring and just not very well paced and uh I don't think it meshes completely together I like what it's going for I really like the performances there's a lot of scenes that I like individually but overall like to watch it as one movie is I thought it was kind of tough so I don't know something else that might need a rewatch and that might need to unlock it to really appreciate it because it has super high letterbox rating as a 4.1 I know a lot of people are loving this thing uh I would I want to love it but uh yeah I ended up at a 3 out of 5 for that one as well and lastly I just watched today a complete unknown the James Mann gold Bob Dylan biopic who just adapted from a book I almost watched out today too but oh did you I didn't know it is um yeah it's supposed to focus on a time well obviously on his come up into the scene um but then really focuses on him as a folk singer in the transition to like when he went into more blues and rock and roll um so that's kind of like the climax of the movie is that um that folk festival that he plays in like 65 or whatever but he plays rock music instead this is everybody off blah blah uh I thought it was pretty good I thought it was super watchable I didn't really know much about Bob Dylan so I thought it was educational I really liked the music in it and I like how a lot of it feels like they're trying to tell the story through his songs and through his music which I feel like that's how Bob Dylan would have wanted it to go uh I really like Timothy Chalamet's performance in it I thought he definitely sounded a lot like Bob Dylan um had the same mannerisms and stuff even though like I said I don't know Bob Dylan that well but I've seen um other things with the real Bob Dylan in them um and yeah it looks fine it's nothing's like nothing really to blow you away technically but the direction was good um and yeah it's just it's just kind of one of those typical biopics and I think that's part of the problem is it is even though at two hours and ten minutes or whatever um it feels like they have to skip through a lot to get it going and that might be in the editing it might be in the writing um it's just the nature of adapting some of these things to make them to make them a watchable length uh you gotta like kind of fly through things and it definitely does that in the beginning I would say the point where like really like took picked up momentum took off for me like to get invested was uh right at the point where he like becomes super famous where like everybody is like uh when they see him everybody's clamoring to get to him and get his autograph and stuff like that that's when the pace kind of slows down and it really gets into that that transition of like I said he is a folk singer but he wants to explore other facets of music and he he hate like from what I know he hated being uh as Travis would say don't put him in a box he doesn't want to be put in a box uh he's a contrarian he oh he just wants to be different and um yeah he like the worst um the worst thing you could say about him would be like oh you're just like everybody else he would probably hate that so uh I think it does convey that quite well um but some of like the love stuff too also is because of the speed that they have to move through things some of that stuff you don't get as invested in and you don't totally buy into it so when uh certain scenes happen they're just um the emotional weight isn't there that uh should be there so uh overall yeah I liked it quite a bit I'd give it a 3.5 on that as well nice maybe I'll check it out yeah I don't think it's gonna blow you away uh doesn't feel like one of those movies but um I am a Bob Dylan fan well I was oh okay I actually it's a nice music well one of the best things I could one of the best compliments I could give the movie was it made me want to listen to some Bob Dylan and like I've never been a big fan of his just like the way he sounds and like the music and stuff but uh this like I actually was like being drawn like man I was like oh that sounds a banger like um like a Rolling Stone and oh yeah blown in the wind all that stuff I mean obviously he's got his I like tambourine man yeah tambourine man that's on soundtrack as well yeah um yeah that would be one that I would I would be more curious to dig into that uh to obviously get to know the music but then to really listen to the lyrics because they do put up a fun fact at the end that he was the only he's the only musical artist to or the only lyricist or whatever to win a Nobel Peace Prize in literature for his songs yeah he is considered one of the best musical or music writers lyricist whatever of all time so yeah so yeah you uh you probably would like it maybe a little bit more than me and I don't know what your top 10s looking like or what the bottom of the barrel is for you but um yeah check it out if you have time I do maybe well you do have time okay uh anything else that you need to touch on before we shut her down nope okay well next week should I say next year hey we'll see you guys next year um yeah no they're actually like is legitimately nothing out um the damned is the only thing I have on in theaters um and then there's the rest of the stuff that's still out the fire inside which is written by someone is it um it's either Barry Jenkins or um Steve McQueen wrote the fire inside I'm trying to remember which one but not directed by either of them uh we have a three better man huge monkey movie um Sonic 3 of course I think we have a baby girl um I if if one of us or both of us could find the brutalist then I would say that's definitely yeah I know but I don't know if I can I tried to look and yeah I look they had no showtimes and I even got an ad from like AMC it's like to watch it at AMC and I checked I'm like it's nowhere and I took like weeks out of nothing yeah yeah from what I saw um don't have it as well uh around here so um yeah I don't know what the featured review is going to be I know Nightpitch is on Hulu uh the order is also on VOD I want to see that for end of the year Maria is on Netflix um so yeah there's a few things we might just do like a hodgepodge of end of year stuff I would say the majority of like my end of year watching at this point is going to be rewatches because I think a lot of the best stuff I've probably already seen it already done or or might be stuff that like what could go up um thinking of the substance love lies bleeding um I kind of want to watch queer again so yeah any um any input on I guess what you want to do next week no I was trying to look and like okay okay we'll leave it undecided then um I mean I definitely want to give ourselves some time to catch up on anything that we haven't seen yet before we do a top 10 so I'm not ready to commit to that next episode it might be the following or even the one after that but um yeah for now let's just say we're going to be catching up on some movies maybe doing some rewatches and fuck if we don't have a feature reveal we'll still talk movies and beer yeah there's always that okay sounds like a plan in the meantime if you want to send us a question or comment you can email us at sudsencinemapodcast@gmail.com if you want to follow us on instagram we're at sudsencinemapodcast I'm on letterbox and untapped at the gg project I'm on both those as JSL 5.7 that's JSL 5.7 all right thanks for listening cheers guys people call save me later you're bound to fire you thought they were all i can you you used to laugh about never thought it i was hanging out now you don't talk so loud now you don't seem so proud about having to be scrounging your next video how to say the best how to say the best how to say the best
