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The Unexpected Ways the Left is Winning in the Abortion Fight

When the Supreme Court overturned Roe v. Wade this year, it appeared to be an unvarnished victory for the anti-abortion movement. But as the year draws to a close, the realities of a post-Roe America are turning out differently than anyone predicted. Guest: Kate Zernike, a national correspondent for The New York Times.
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When the Supreme Court overturned Roe v. Wade this year, it appeared to be an unvarnished victory for the anti-abortion movement.

But as the year draws to a close, the realities of a post-Roe America are turning out differently than anyone predicted.

Guest: Kate Zernike, a national correspondent for The New York Times.

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It's Wednesday, December 14th. So Kate, it's the end of the year. Time for a reflection. And I think it's fair to say that, you know, journalistically, when we look back at 2022, it was the year that Roe v. Wade was overturned. And it was the year that the country figured out how to operate in that new reality. And so we wanted to talk through with you where we are right now. Like, with the benefit of hindsight, what has been the meaning of the country's post-row journey? And where's it left us? Well, at the highest level, we started off thinking that the overturning of Roe in June was a total victory for the anti-abortion groups. Those groups had fought Roe for the 50 years that it was in effect. And overturning Roe returned the battle on abortion to the states. And they had been ready for this ruling. They had all these laws passed that the minute Roe was overturned, these states were gonna ban abortion. I remember that, the trigger law is all of that. Exactly, the trigger laws. But in fact, we're in a really different place nearly six months later. Yes, 34 million women of reproductive age live in states where abortion is now banned.

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When the Supreme Court overturned Roe v. Wade this year, it appeared to be an unvarnished victory for the anti-abortion movement. But as the year draws to a close, the realities of a post-Roe America are turning out differently than anyone predicted. Guest: Kate Zernike, a national correspondent for The New York Times.