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In a landmark verdict, a jury convicted Stewart Rhodes, leader of the Oath Keepers, a right-wing militia, of sedition for his role in the Jan. 6 assault on the U.S. Capitol. The charge he faced, seditious conspiracy, is one that can be traced to the American Civil War. How did federal prosecutors make their case, and what does the verdict tell us about just how organized the attack really was? Guest: Alan Feuer, a reporter covering courts and criminal justice for The New York Times.
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In a landmark verdict, a jury convicted Stewart Rhodes, leader of the Oath Keepers, a right-wing militia, of sedition for his role in the Jan. 6 assault on the U.S. Capitol.

The charge he faced, seditious conspiracy, is one that can be traced to the American Civil War. 

How did federal prosecutors make their case, and what does the verdict tell us about just how organized the attack really was?

Guest: Alan Feuer, a reporter covering courts and criminal justice for The New York Times.

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In a landmark verdict, a jury convicted Stewart Rhodes, leader of the Oath Keepers, a right-wing militia, of sedition for his role in the Jan. 6 assault on the U.S. Capitol. The charge he faced, seditious conspiracy, is one that can be traced to the American Civil War. How did federal prosecutors make their case, and what does the verdict tell us about just how organized the attack really was? Guest: Alan Feuer, a reporter covering courts and criminal justice for The New York Times.