- Wait, you have a TV? - No, I just like to read the TV guide. Read the TV guide, you don't need a TV. ♪ Scroll this planet ♪ ♪ Scroll this planet ♪ ♪ Scroll this planet ♪ ♪ Ah ♪ - Hello and welcome everybody. It is Wednesday, and it is time for a brand new episode of TV Guidens Counselor. My name is Ken Reed. I am your TV Guidens Counselor, and I am here to guide you through the world of television. My guest this week is Ms. Andrea Henry. Andrea is, I think, our third or fourth guest from Brockton, Massachusetts. We have a really high, really high Brockton quotient and a high main quotient for whatever reason, not by design, but anyway, Andrea is a very, very funny stand-up comedian. She's done quite a few things. She also writes for Us Magazine. She writes for all kinds of odd things. She's written screenplays and done short films and all kinds of interesting stuff. I always like talking to Andrea. She's really funny and a great joke writer, wrote a great joke book for kids with Mike Kaplan that you can buy on Amazon, mix a great gift if you need a gift for anyone. It's a great gift. So sit back on Ranks and enjoy this week's episode with my guest, Andrea Henry. (upbeat music) ♪ I am a big creator, I am a big creator ♪ ♪ I am a big creator, I am a big creator ♪ ♪ I am a big creator, I am a big creator ♪ ♪ I am a cool magic man, I am a cool magic man ♪ ♪ I am a cool magic man, I am a cool magic man ♪ ♪ I am a cool magic man, I am a cool magic man ♪ Ms. Andrea Henry. - Hello, how you doing, Andrea? - Good, how are you, Ken? - Good, thank you for coming to my home and braving the very difficult to drive in weather. - It's on tough like that, so. - Yeah, Andrea's from Brockton, so she can handle weather. Brockton's known for fighting weather. I also wanna apologize, I probably sound a little weird 'cause I have a cold. So normally, and this part isn't usually on the podcast, but normally my guests and I share a milkshake before the show, just as a bonding exercise, but I've waved that this evening on Nader's behalf. - Well, I'm a little disappointed, Ken, I'm not gonna lie about that. - Yeah, I wanna infect you with whatever it is that I have, I've been to some strange foreign countries lately. So you picked a TV guide from October 18th through the 24th, so the week before Halloween, 1986. What drew you to this particular TV guide? - This would have been from my TV prime time watching years. So this would have been the 80s, so I would have been high school, I would have been home with nothing to do, and probably watching a lot of TV. So this seemed like a good period for me. - So prior to high school, you were out a lot. - Yeah, absolutely. - Yeah, and then it kinda slowed down. - Yeah, I got a little older, I was like, I gotta take it easy. - Right, right, it's been a long day. So we have Michael J. Fox on the cover, and we have Brian Bosnell, who played Andy on Family Ties, who is not doing well these days. He did go to jail, as you probably know. There's also an interesting thing in the cover here. It says, behind Patrick Duffy's return to Dallas, a cover story I could not be less interested in, I don't think. - I was never a Dallas fan, and I did like Family Ties a lot, and I kinda had like the crush on Skippy. - On Skippy, really, Mark Price. - Yeah, yeah. - Have you ever seen him do stand up? - I think on TV one time, or YouTube somewhere. Yeah, I was so bad, I'm like, why are you doing that? You were like a major star, and now you're doing this. - I don't know if this will disgust you or intrigue you, but he does full frontal nudity in the film Trick or Treat. - I'm not gonna watch that. - I didn't think you would, but he gets pantsed in a shower. - Yeah, it was in his primetime, Family Ties era as well. - I was always very frustrated with Mallory, 'cause I thought, why not Skippy? - He's even like Nick. - He was kinda dumb. - Well, he's very dumb, he's an artist. - I just didn't get it, and... - What was it about Skippy that did it for you? - I think 'cause he was in between the Republic and Michael J. - Right. - And the loser, our guy, Nick. So he was-- - He's like the best of both worlds. - Yeah, I was like, well, he wasn't-- - He was adopted as well. Remember that he was adopted and you found out? - I remember that. - Skippy Andelman, wasn't that his last name? - That was like a big trauma for him. - Yeah, oh, I think finding out you're adopted would be a huge trauma. - She I never understood why that would be a trauma. - See, I think for a lot of people it might be a relief. - Maybe. - I mean, I played a practical joke on my sister where I told her she was adopted, and then I forgot to tell her that it was a joke. Yeah. I told her eventually, but it was a couple of years. Also, interestingly, you know, I normally don't get two under the cover stories here, but this one says, under the Patrick Duffy story, it says, to be Andrew at three, how to be a good little capitalist and ignore disappointments such as your sisters by Alex P. Keaton. There is an article in this TV guide written by someone in character as Alex P. Keaton, which is highly unusual. - I might wanna read that later on. - Yeah, oh, absolutely. Feel free to stick around and read this all you want. So Saturday night, eight o'clock, what'd you go with? - I went with American graffiti. - So you went right out with a movie? - I went right, it was, I was really disappointed with all the offerings. I, you know, I wanted to, but I would've been very excited for it. Six o'clock, they had an episode of The New Gidget. - Oh, I love The New Gidget. - Yeah, that was like-- - I'm a huge fan of The New Gidget. - Yeah, it was an underrated show. - Yeah. - I would've been all over that. I just remember she had the little white Volkswagen. - Bug, it was a bug, yeah. - It wasn't a bug, it was like Cabrio. - Okay, I don't know anything about cars. - Yeah, no, it was kind of like-- - It was a, it was a ragtop. - Yes, and she would drive that. - With Moondoggy. - Moondoggy, and then it was at her niece, she had this teenage girl that was in her daughter. - Yeah, it was kind of like The New Gidget, right. - Do you remember there was a huge fad in the 80s of The New shows? So there was The New Lassie, The New Leave It To Beaver, The New Gidget, The New Monsters, The New Adams Family. - The only one I remember was The New Gidget. - Really, you didn't see any of the other ones? - No interest in the other ones. - I will say The New Leave It To Beaver was really, really great. It was sort of a dramedy. It was a single camera sitcom, and it had some really weird, like, fantasy sequences, and it was probably done. - I think you're lying about that, Kevin. I don't think that existed. - It started off as a Mayford TV movie called Still the Beaver, and then it became a weekly show called The New Leave It To Beaver, and it moved networks a few times. I think it moved to TBS, and then it made a move to the Disney Channel eventually. - Was the adult beaver on it? - He was, everyone was on it, and it was mostly about them and their children. - Okay, I vaguely remember something like that. - No, it was almost a precursor to The New Degrassi, where it sort of followed the old children from the original series as adults and went with their trials and tribulations, and then also their kids. It was a pretty good show. I'm surprised it hasn't found a good audience. I hated The New Monsters, though. It was actually called The Monsters Today. - No, no recollection of that. Is that like on network TV, or is that cable? - It was in syndication. Yeah, it was The Monsters Today, and there was also The New Twilight Zone. - Yeah, I vaguely remember that. - Which had some decent episodes. - I do, yeah. New Gidget's all that would have been like top of the list. - Yeah, that was always on, that was a syndicated show. It was usually on in an hour without of this world. I noticed around here, they would air it, usually on like a Saturday afternoon, it would be like Charlton Charge out of this world, New Gidget, and New Gidget started as a made-for-TV movie, which was the original pilot, which if you ever would like it, I do have it. - And I'd take you up on that, if that was-- - So, I never really liked American Graffiti that much. - I did it. - What drew you to it? - You know, it was kind of the best of the worst I found. I would've been-- - Also. - You know, there was nothing else I wanted to watch on that Saturday night, and it, you know, I would've been into like the whole retro kind of '50s thing. So that would, that appeals to me, and you know, I kinda, at the time, I would've seen it as an extension of Happy Days. - Okay, 'cause it almost was sort of a pilot for Happy Days. - Exactly, right. - I will say this, so you picked an October magazine, and there was a lot of horror movies on this week that you passed up, I know you're not a big horror fan, but you passed up on Channel 64, World of Dracula, where college students discover that the professor of a course on the supernatural is actually the infamous count. I mean, that, I'm hooked right there. - I have no fear of Dracula, and I would not have been interested in anybody that did have any fear of concerns with Dracula. - Or also, on USA Saturday Nightmares, we had a movie called Psychophobia. - I noticed that one. - A widow and her two children are terrorized by vicious threats. Can you get a more vague explanation for a film? - You know, I saw a psychophobia, and I was interested, I did not look up the description, that actually I think would pull me away from American graffiti. - Psychophobia. - Psychophobia, I changed my vote. Psychophobia. - I have to look up psychophobia. Is that an actual phobia? It would be just a phobia of psychos? 'Cause I think that everyone probably has that. - Jan Parley was a great movie in 1986. - It got no stars, it's from 1982. Now, the sitcom, now normally on Saturday night on NBC, I would have been sitting there watching Saturday night on NBC, but eight o'clock, they had life with Lucy on, which was not a show I enjoyed. - Was that like Lucy Ball? - Lucy Ball's final series, and this is when I found her the most terrifying. - I remember that, she was very elderly. - Oh, full on Smoker's voice. - Right, and she had like the adult, adult Ricky was on it, I think? - Yes. - With his son, maybe? - Yes, Donovan Scott was on it. So on this one, to meet competition for a new hardware chain, Lucy and Curtis go on TV to show their home repair skills. She was full on like, like very terrifying, yellow toothed. She also, at this time, starred in a made-for-TV movie where she played a homeless person and it was called one of my favorite names for a TV movie, Stone Pillow. 'Cause she was homeless. See what they did that? - Yeah, why would she do this show at this point, you think? - I think she probably needed the money. - You think so? - Well, I don't know. She probably made a lot of money off Desi Lou generally. - Yeah. - I don't know, maybe she's just bored. - Maybe. - 'Cause she actually, she was great until about 1965 and then got just awful. It's embarrassing. And this show was really old fashioned in a bad way. It was pretty awful. And again, with the sort of new trend, this wasn't quite new, I love Lucy, but it was pretty close. And also not good. So I think I would have gone with the world of Dracula here, but I would have only watched the first half hour because at 8.30 on Nickelodeon, I would have watched the special, "The Pumpkin Who Couldn't Smile." - I would not watch that. I would not watch that at all. - Why? - It sounds upsetting. I think that it sounds like a cheap Halloween rip-off. And I would just have no interest in that. And if I were in the room, I would have changed the channel or left. - So you think it was a horror movie that was a rip-off of Halloween called "The Pumpkin Who Couldn't Smile"? - No, I think it was like a rip-off of Charlie Brown, which I also kind of hate. - Hold on, hold on. - Yeah. - I almost choked on my cookie here. - Sorry. - You hate Charlie Brown? - Yeah. I hate Charlie Brown. I, you know, I've got a daughter, so we re-watched. It was all excited to watch some of the Charlie Brown things with her. And I think I lasted about 10 minutes. - What's your problem with Charlie Brown? - It's boring. - It was boring, but it's so sweet. - No. - I thought it was a great atmosphere. - Yeah, I know. I don't care. What did we watch? I think we watched "The Christmas One." And I was like, "Ugh." - Shut this up. - That's a classic. - No, he did it. - And you don't like "The Great Pumpkin"? Are there any holiday specials that you do like? 'Cause that may be the problem here. But as a kid, I like them. As an adult, though, I'm like, "She's a movie, this story, a line piece." - So you have no attention span anymore? - Maybe. - Did you read any Sunday syndicated comic strips in the newspaper? - Absolutely. - What were your favorites? Curtis, Robotman? - No, for better or worse. - Oh, they had a Christmas special for better or worse. It was pretty terrible. - Then I liked, I remember Zippy. I used to like Zippy. - Zippy was probably the weirdest one. - Yeah. And I think that's why, I don't think I got it, but I liked it 'cause I knew it was weird. - I don't know if anyone got it. - Bloom County? - Bloom County, though, of course, Bloom County. - They had a great Christmas special called the Wishful Wings That Worked. That was very good. - I might have enjoyed that. I don't remember seeing that. I can't think of any Christmas holiday things I would sit down and watch voluntarily at this point. - Are there any, so you have no heart anymore? - No, pretty much. And this is very disturbing. So we had snow day at the other day, and I was excited 'cause we were even at our home, didn't know school, and I had no work. And I was like, all right, we're gonna watch Raiders of the Lost Ark. - Right. - So this is like a seven-o-mother-daughter moment. - And what she psyched about it? - She, no, she was adamantly opposed to it. That would be scary. And then we finally talked her into it. I had to let her watch the crudes on Netflix for us. Whatever. - Yeah. - And then that was a deal. Then we agreed to watch Raiders. And I guess it has a little disappointed. - Raiders is the moment the guy's heart getting ripped out. - No, Raiders is Indiana Jones, he's getting the arc. Raiders of the Lost Ark. - Oh, it's the first one. - The first one, yeah. - The second one is the one. Temple of Doom's the one with the heart attack. I was gonna say it, that wouldn't be appropriate for a child. - No, and I feel like a little letdown by my youth. And now I'm a little scared to look back 'cause now I'm thinking like, maybe Poltergeist sucks now, I don't know. - Poltergeist does kind of suck. Did you really love Poltergeist? - That was Poltergeist. - It did freak me out. I wouldn't look under my bed. Carol Anne was really creepy. She was on a show called Putting on the Kids. I don't know if you remember that show. - I don't vaguely remember that one. 'Cause the kids spin off of Putting on the Hits. - Okay. - Which was the lip syncing show. And Putting on the Kids, they would do celebrity editions at holidays worthy. And on the Christmas episode, she came out and lip synced a song and it is bone chillingly terrifying. 'Cause she's like an adult child, like she's way too-- - How good are you two of that? - I have it if you wanna see it. She looks right in your eyes and it's not comfortable. But, a pumpkin it couldn't smile. It's actually pretty good. It's ready and an Andy. - The only pumpkin they have. It's fun. And in this one, Raggedy and Andy try to unite a woe-be-gone Jack-o-lantern and a lonely boy whose mean aunt Agatha won't let him have a pumpkin. - You know what? I don't know Agatha's probably right. 'Cause I actually carved a pumpkin for the first time this year. - You had never done it in your whole life? - Never carved it. Never carved a pumpkin. - Hold on. What kind of Halloween did you have growing up? - So they weren't very pumpkin themed. And there was just no pumpkin carving in my house, for some reason. My little daughter's friend's mother invited us over, we're all gonna carve pumpkins together. So it'd be terrific. And it was disgusting. The goo from the seeds. - No, that's fun. - No, it was cold. - Look at that smell. - I'm not very artistic. So, you don't have to draw it. - You roast the seeds. - Yeah, we did roast the seeds. But yeah, so I'm not a pumpkin fan. I'm not a jack-o-lan fan, so this. - Wow. - You're like the Auntie Mae. - I might be, yeah. - I can't believe you didn't do a jack-o-lantern. - No, you didn't. - Did you ask, did you already interest? And your parents were like, no, we don't do that. - No interest. Halloween was always kind of fraught with anxiety for me. - 'Cause you didn't know what costume you were gonna have? - No, because my siblings are a lot older than me. - Her oldest brother is 71. - Yes. And I'm 14, it's a big span. - Big span. - So we went to visit one of my brothers at college. - What college was it? - University of Pennsylvania. - Okay. - And it was Halloween weekend. And so he said to me, we're gonna go see Halloween. And I must have been about nine, eight or nine. - We were with your parents or what? - Yeah, yeah, yeah. We were with my parents. - Why did your parents choose to go to a university on Halloween weekend? - I don't know. - They really didn't get to do any trick-or-treating that week. - No, no, they took me trick-or-treating in Philadelphia. And we had a sports car. One of his fraternity brothers took us in the sports car. So that was a lot of fun. - Was it like Gidget's VW? - No, it was like, I think it was like a two-seater. And I went with my brother's girlfriend and this guy. - What'd you dress up as? - I was Scarlett O'Hara. - Oh nice, what were they dressed up as? - They weren't dressed up. So we went in, my brother said, okay, you're gonna go trick-or-treating tomorrow, but tonight you have to go with me to see Halloween, the movie. - Yes. - And I was terrified 'cause I knew it was scary. - It's a scary movie. - So I started crying and I said, no, I don't wanna see it. - Before even seeing it. - Before even seeing it. And that just, there's no weakness allowed. - With your brother, oh, so he just kept going. - So now you're going, you're crying, you're definitely going now, no stopping here. - Do you want me to talk to him? - It's okay. - Okay. - And so we went, and I'm crying the whole way, crying, going into the theater. - Well, so I'm sure the other patrons really appreciate it. - Well, it was all drunk college kids. - Right. - And they had all seen the movie before, and so they were like kind of acting along with the movie. And so, you know, the opening scene where the kids got the mask on and the knife, and the kids are just yelling, pick up the knife. The kid picks up the knife, and then stab her in the chest. These stabs are in the chest. And at that point, I just started laughing 'cause it was a good scene. - So you got it. - I got it. And my brother turned out to be right, and it turned out to be one of the best movie-going experiences I had. - Well, I did not expect that in the story. - Yeah, it's a happy end. - And you've seen it since then. - Yeah, absolutely. - Have you seen the sequels? - I remember she was in a mental institution or hospital. - That's H2O. - Yeah. - Great. I would recommend Halloween 3, season of the witch. I think you would enjoy that. Michael Myers is not in it. - Oh, I would check that out. - It's pretty good. I love Halloween. It's one of my all time, it was just the holiday and the movie. - Right. - One of my all time favorite movies. Whenever we go to Los Angeles, we feel the need to go to the houses from Halloween. - Okay. - And we do it every time and take a picture in front, even though we have one from every time we've been. - I would do that. I would check that out. - It's pretty cool. - See, that's my idea of a good Halloween movie. And, you know, I look forward to the day when I can take my daughter to see Halloween with a bunch of drunk college kids that cheer along with it. - Yeah, I think that you can live that dream sometimes. - Sometimes. - But, pumpkin that wouldn't smile, not for you. Nine o'clock fame was on, which was a show I never enjoyed. - I would have watched that. I didn't notice that. - Didn't enjoy it. In this episode, Nicole's discontent affects her rehearsals for a dance performance at the wedding of Christopher's cousin. Meanwhile, Danny gets the once-over thrice when he dates an Irish cop's daughter who has a Marine and a cop for brothers. Well, that sounds crazy. - Was Danny the piano player? - I think Danny. It was Carlo and Perrato. I think that's it. - The curly hair. - I think so. See, all I really remember with that show is Nea Peoples, who I was a huge fan of. I love Nea Peoples' party machine. - Okay. - Can you remember that show? - I don't. - It was on, in syndication, it was usually on after Saturday Night Live, a lot of times. It was like Saturday Night's very late night, and it was just like Nea Peoples having a dance party. And I just love the fact that it was called Nea Peoples' party machine. I mean, I can't think of a better name show for that. - That is great name. - I wanna watch the new Mike Hammer. - No, I would not, I would not have watched that. - So you don't like hard-boiled detectives? - No, especially Stacey Keach. - You don't like Stacey Keach? - No, I'm not. - You're not famous mustache? - No. - Really? If your brother took you to see Stacey Keach with a bunch of drunken college students, do you think you might like Stacey Keach? - That could bring me around, but I'm not gonna handle that. - I'll call your brother, maybe we can make this happen. - Okay. - Sunday night, the Lord's Night. - Oh, yes. - What do you got, eight o'clock? - Well, I think, you know, it is the Lord's Day, family day. So I went with It's a Living, which I don't remember what that is. - Oh, great show. - Was it, were the Waitresses? - It was the Waitresses? - Oh, yeah, the Angelian. - Okay. - Who worked in the top of the Bonaventure Hotel in Los Angeles. - Okay. - Angelian was in the first season. She then dropped out when the show was canceled and then went into first-run syndication and was sort of recast. And Crystal Bernard was in it at that point. She ended up with Angelian, or she replaced Angelian. - She sort of replaced Angelian. They replaced Angelian with three or four characters. - Angelian used to really stress me out with the blue hair and the bangs. - 'Cause it looked like a wig. She had kind of a Dorothy Hamill thing. - She was like, intense haircut. And I just remember, it made me nervous. - I find her fascinating. She's from Cambridge, Massachusetts. And I remember when she had a double mastectomy. - I remember that. - And she was kind of the first person that I remember hearing about that had breast cancer. And then she starred in a TV movie as herself about her struggle. - Did she ever play like Jane Mansfield or any actresses like that prior to all that? - I don't think so, but she wasn't one of the weirder shows ever called Jennifer Slept here, where she played sort of a trampy Hollywood starlet who died and was hunting her own home and this family from New York moves in and she befriends the teenage son and only he can see her and wackiness ensues. - Kind of like a ghost in Mrs. Muert type of thing. Sort of, but a lot more base and a lot less not good. - Okay. After that, I would have gone with Mama's family. - Oh, geez. Andrea, you're not the first person to make this mistake on the show. - I, you know, there was a lot, I hated about Mama's family, but yeah, that hate compelled me to watch it. Number one being Mama's wig. - So you, so hair is a real thing for you. - Yeah, the wig, the tightly curled wig, it made me uncomfortable and I would have to watch it for that. - So you would watch it to intentionally become uncomfortable to do the Mama's wig? - Yes. 'Cause, you know, part of me was like, is it a wig? Is it not a wig? Of course, in retrospect, I know it's a wig. - Right. - And then there was like the trampy daughter with the son who was kind of the same age as-- - As Mama. - Yeah. - As Mama, which was confusing. And then there was like the dopey, see the grandson? - Don't bring up Bubba. - Bubba, yeah. - Bubba is one of my least favorite characters in the history of the world. - Yeah, but you know what, I mean, but just having the character that you hate that much makes it a compelling show, I think. - Not really, see, I am filled with hate. I'm pretty hateful and spite is what gets me up in the morning and even me, even I could not bring myself to watch Mama's family. - I would have done that. - Wow, I would have not come with Mama's family. I would have gone the A&E network, Elias Smith and Jones, the UK sketch comedy show. I would have watched it at 8.30 instead. Nine o'clock, what'd you go with? - Star Search. - Star Search, Mr. Ed McMahon, did you watch this every week? 'Cause I certainly did. - I did not, but I watched it enough to, and I would watch it from like a very judgmental perspective. I would never watch it. - I'm picking up on that theme. - Yeah, yeah, you know, I would watch it to see people screw up or to not enjoy their acts. - So you just, you were there for the NASCAR aspect. You wanted to see a car crash. - Yeah, and there never really was a car crash. - Oh, there's quite a few car crashes, yeah. - And then the spokeswoman search always-- - Spokes model. - The spokes model search, that always confused me. - Also, why is it here? - Why is it here? What is the point of these ladies? They didn't seem to give them all that much to do. - Well, they wanted dads to watch the show. - Oh, okay. But I think there would be more of a mom thing watching it. - Normally, so they got a built-in mom audience, so they want the dads to watch. I kind of always wanted secretly for Ed McMahon to have a show that was all spokes models and just to have it called Ed McMahon's Lear Machine. - You know, but there was like, there was like, cinemax and stuff at this time. So do you think men would really watch star search to see the spokes models? - Yeah, because if you watch that with your family, it was like watching Solid Gold, you're like, I'm just here in the hit so today. And meanwhile, you're watching the dancers jiggle, and you're like, oh no, what a great show. - Yeah, I think it's more like how the ladies watch Miss America. - 'Cause they want to see women they hate. So this is the recurring theme. They want to see people's wigs and they go, I hate these women, I can't turn away from it. - That's exactly right. - Are there any shows you hate watch now? - Yes, Sons of Anarchy. - So you hate it, but you watch it? - I have stopped watching, I was watching on Netflix, and I forced myself to stop watching it because I hated it so much, I hated it every single person on the show, I just wanted them all to go to jail. - Did you call the cops on them? - I'd like to, I think somebody needs to. So me needs to take a stand. And so I, you know, I'm always tempted, I think there's a new season on them, always tempted to watch it, but I'm gonna say no, because I hate it too much. - Okay. - It's a different kind of hate. - Have you passed on your hate watching to your child? - Not yet, unfortunately. - But do you hope to train them? - Yes, because then we can watch things and enjoy hating them together. - So I only would have watched the first half hour of Star Search, and I'll tell you why, because at 9.30, one of my favorite shows, "Fight Back" with David Horowitz was on, and this was a consumer protection show. - Oh, I would have been now with that. - Yeah, David Horowitz, there's probably some episodes on YouTube, I've only been able to find one episode in my trading years, but it was a good one. And in this one, a look back at the most requested commercial challenges included luggage and a gorilla, an elephant on a waterbed, and a trash can dropped from a helicopter. So they would see things people did in commercials, and then it was a bit like Mythbusters. - Yes. - It was pretty fun. I remember they one time crazy glued a guy's head to a steel beam, like in the crazy glue commercial, where they had the helmet and didn't work. He would mail all the other things, and David Horowitz was kind of, he was pretty much exactly what you think a guy named David Horowitz looks like. - Was he like a lawyer? What was he? - He was a consumer reporter, I think, for a some Los Angeles station, and it started as a segment on the news, which they kind of spun off into a syndicated, full-length show, and it was funny, 'cause he's kind of, you know, just like a balding middle-aged guy, but he was like a tough guy about stuff. And he'd be like, if someone tries to rip you off, don't take it, you'll fight back. - I would've been all over that. - Yeah, and I had a great theme song, and I'm like, ♪ Fight back, no one's gonna rip you off ♪ ♪ Fight back ♪ - It had this really great, I wish I had the tongue of my iPod. If anyone has an MP3 of the Fightback theme song, please email it to Ken@icandrade.com, and I'll send you a prize for my home. I'll mail you over. - It's got some good stuff here, too. - Yeah, I'll just, you'll get a random thing from my house, it can be anything, it might be on my cat. So, Monday night, the saddest night of the week. - No, no, I was excited by the offerings of Monday night. - The offerings are good, but they have to be good, because Monday as a day, it's so terribly bad. So what do you go with eight o'clock? - There was, you know, one choice, one choice only, Kate and Allie. - That is the correct choice. CBS Monday night, as people know who listen, is my night. I just parked it on CBS Monday night, all night. Kate and Allie, one of my all-time favorite shows. Did you watch it every week? - I did, yes. - Who did you like better, Kate or Allie? - The Jane Curtain one, was that Kate? - That's Allie. - That's Allie. - Allie Lowell. - Yes. - Yes. - Did you identify more with the Jane Curtain one? - No, she was like less, she was more practical, I think. - I agree. - So, maybe that, Kate seemed a little bit flighty, and I don't know if I can articulate why, but just the gut said the Jane Curtain one. - So in this one, Kate is thrilled when the doctor who's taking care of, I have to turn the page here. Oh, we have a book ad. Doctors taking care of her broken bones takes a romantic interest in her, but Allie discovers that he's not all, he's cracked up to be. - Is he really a woman? - He's married. - Oh boy, look out, look out. - 'Cause Allie's always looking out for Kate, who's just gonna go for it, and she doesn't think. Now, you didn't go with MacGyver, which is a terrible show, but I feel the need to read the synopsis for this MacGyver episode because it's too good. - I just want to say, Kate, I don't think I've ever watched a single MacGyver episode. - Really? - Yep. - You should, you should. If you like hate watching things, you should watch MacGyver. - I don't know, that might be too much for me even. - It's exciting, it probably won't be boring. - All right. - I'll read you this synopsis and you can make the decision based off this. In Chinatown, MacGyver tries to rescue a friend's brother from a scam in which he's passing himself off as the reincarnation of an ancient Chinese legend. - You know, that guy should get whatever's coming to him for doing that. - Well, James Hong isn't it, from Big Trouble in Little China and Blade Runner and a bunch of things. - Right. - We've also weirdly directed a bunch of TNA movies in the '70s, which is really odd. - Okay. - In George Takai, is this episode? - Yeah, I would not watch that. - George Takai, Japanese man, playing a Chinese man. - Yeah, I love you. - People don't care. 8.30, you going with? - Oh, my sister Sam. - Did you usually watch this? - I love that show. - Were you, so this was Pam Dauber's followup to Mark and Mindy. And this show had some dark clouds above it. - It did, that was very sad about what happened to the other eye. - We were like a Shafer. - She was murdered by a stalker. - Yes. - And I remember being absolutely terrified of that. This was, I think after Mr. Hooper died, this was probably the first time someone on television died that I was aware of. - Well, this like, I feel like started the whole stalker phase. 'Cause you never heard about stalkers until this. And then after this, I remember like there were stalkers everywhere. Everyone was getting stalked. Brooke Shields was getting stalked by John Boy. And it was a great movie. I would have watched that if I could. And it just like opened the door to stalking. - Yeah, it had a lot of movies like Relentless, Blue Steel, even The Hand in the Rust of Cradle. But this, I'm eating, I apologize. I'm under the weather, I need my energy. So this was, she was murdered in real life though. - Right, yeah. - And they really sensationalized it. And I enjoyed this show as well. And I couldn't believe that they would cancel the show and I wanted them to sort of write it into the show that she died. But they never did. - Yeah, I can understand why they would cancel because it was a happy, fun show. - It was a pretty lightweight show. - Two sisters living together. And, you know, one of them was brutally murdered. I think you should-- - That makes it hard to have a lighthearted sitcom. - Yeah, it's not the same. - David Naughton was in it, who was in one of my favorite movies, Midnight Madness, which also takes place in the Bonaventure Hotel, much like it's a living. - Which one was Sam? Was Sam Pam or? - Sam is Pam Dollar. - Okay. - So Sam is sort of like a late 20s-- - Right, she's like the surrogate mom. - Yeah, she moved to New York. She's a photographer and her sort of free spirit younger sister comes and lives with her in New York. - And they go to see Halloween together with college kids. - Yes, yes. Her name was Patty on the show. In this episode, Sam nervously waits next door at Jack's apartment while Patty hosts her first unshaperoned party. - Uh-oh. - Did you ever have an unshaperoned party when you were a kid? - Never. - Did you ever have a party? - No. - Yes, we did, we had a surprise party for my friend Michelle and I think we had two boys come to that. - Really? - That was quite the coup, yes. - Really, how old were you when that happened? - 19. - Oh, that seems a little low. - Okay, I was like maybe 15, 14. And yeah, no, there was no Andrea House parties. I just, it never kind of occurred to me that that could have happened. - Yeah, I went to one when I was about 10. Let's go, Katie. My town had a very distinct breakdown of very rich people and more blue-collar people. - Right. - So there was over by the country clubs, there was some big huge Victorian sort of mansion houses. She lived in that neighborhood and she had a party when I was about 10. And I remember there was a girl named Courtney that I had kind of a crush on. And I told her that she looked like Brett Blevins' representation of Iliana Rasputin in my new mutants comic, which was a very high compliment. And she called me gay. - Yeah, well, I can understand that, Ken. I'll be honest, yeah. - And I was very taken aback. And then at the party, she asked me to dance with her. - So wait, you're 10, were there adults at this party? - No. - We're just 10-year-olds. - That's crazy. - It was a huge house, just 10-year-olds. And this girl's cousin was a DJ on Kiss 108. Named Artie, Artie, the one-med party. Not Billy Costa. I did accidentally drop Billy Costa's food one time when I was a waiter and still served it to him. - Sorry, Billy. - Sorry, I know Billy Costa's a listener. But so she, her cousin was a DJ. And so he was like giving shout outs on the radio and everyone thought it was a cool. - How many 10-year-olds were at this party? - It was the whole fifth grade. So maybe 60? - Was there alcohol here or? - No, no. She's like chips and Doritos and punch. - Okay. And so you just like got on your bike and you went over to this mansion. - I walked over there. - I walked over. - And she, this girl who had said it was gay 'cause I tried to pay her a compliment. She then asked me if I wanted to dance at the party which was a very nice message. And I remember I said, and I still don't know why I said this. I said, I guessed better than nothing. - Well, it's true. But I want to get back to this party. So what time did this party end? - The end of like nine or 10? - Well, I don't know what time it ended. So because, and here's why. So after I said it's better than nothing, she said you're a loser. And so I just left. And this was probably at about eight o'clock. It was actually around this time of year 'cause I remember going home and I had to sneak into my house so my parents didn't know that I came home early 'cause my dad was big on me being social. Like I'll tell a story about that in a moment. But so I had to sneak in the house in the back door and go to my room and I had to watch the show parenthood with headphones on so they didn't know I was home until they fell asleep. And then I told my god home really late the next day and they were like, cool. - That's pretty good. - Yeah. - I'm impressed. - But so where is this girl alone for the weekend? Where are the parents? - No, I think apparently, well, the house was huge and it had like sections. - So they might have been in different sections. - I think they were in a different section. We never saw them, but I think they were home. I think they were home. - All right, well it's all right then. - Yeah, it wasn't like a sex part. I mean, there wasn't kids. - It's like a 10 year old section. - Yeah, it was just kids dancing to thriller. It was a little bit like the party intervention in the nerds before they smoked the wonder joints. - Okay, okay. - If that helps. - Yeah, all right. - So where were we? Nine o'clock? - Like at nine o'clock, yes. I would have switched over to an officer and a gentleman. - Really? - Yeah, yeah. Because I kind of fancy myself as-- - A romantic? - No, a closet, Louis Gossett, Jr. - Really? - Yeah. - I enjoyed him in the Punisher and in "Enemy Mine." Do you ever see that movie? He plays an alien that gives birth. - No, I haven't seen that. - Good movie. I always liked Deborah Wanger. Don't like Richard Gere. - Well, I liked him in this. ♪ I enjoyed our love lift us up ♪ ♪ Where we belong ♪ - It's good, it's a good song. - And I enjoyed it. ♪ I got no pastels to go home ♪ - That's this one. - D-O-A! - Yeah. - D-O-A! - You've passed up, New Heart. - Yeah. - Hold on, what? - Yeah, I just, you know what? I'm sure I've seen a couple episodes. I didn't quite get it. - Do you don't like New Heart? - No. - It's one of the best ensemble comedies of all time. - You know, when it was on, I might've been not quite old enough for it. - You need to revisit it. - You know, and maybe it's an adult with fresh eyes I would revisit. - In this episode, there's a rumor that Joanna, who plays Bob Newhart's wife on the show, is having an affair with a member of her wine tasting class, a rumor that Dick wants to quash. That's a very good episode. Wow, see? - No, officer and gentleman would have been handsome. - So you also missed out on "Designing Women" at 9.30. - I would watch that occasionally. - It was a great show, but you weren't that into it. - No, you know, I'm just telling you, I really liked Louis Gossett Jr. - I will tell you this. I think the "Designing Women" episode will strike a very special chord with you. - It's Louisa Gossett Jr. - Louisa Gossett Jr. plays. - No way. - No, he's not. But in this episode, soft-hearted Charlene, played by Jean Smart, from the movie "Snow Day", extends a helping hand to some fraternity guys behind on their payments and to a very rich and very overweight gentleman. She's embarrassed to be seen with. - What? - That's a good episode. - Wait, she extends a financial aid to fraternity brothers. - And then also extends a helping hand to this very fat guy, and she's embarrassed by him. - Was you dating him? - A little bit. - But so she liked him, but she was just embarrassed to be seen in public. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's a conflict we've all had. And also, I should mention, I would watch this anyway, but at the same time, the "Fill Silver" show is on, which is one of my favorite shows of all time. I can't get enough "Fill Silver"s. And this one, "Harry" fixes a $2 parking ticket and ends up paying 50. "Fill Silver" show, fantastic. - I don't remember that. - Oh, so you got to watch the episode where they accidentally enlist a monkey in the army. - Oh, that would be good. - Yeah, it's really good. Tuesday night, eight o'clock, where do we go? - Oh, who's the boss? - No, I always watched "Who's the Boss." Never liked "Who's the Boss," but watched it all the time. Did you enjoy it? - I think I wanted to dress like Alyssa Milano. - We all did. - Yeah. So that would have been the appeal. Judith Light, once again, her hairdo really stressed me out. - Yeah. - I did not like Tony Danza. - I didn't like Judith Light's black roots. - I just, it just seemed like there was like a shelf going on. - She had shelf heads. - Yeah, there was a lot of that. And she always had big shoulder pads. - Yeah. - And then I don't know why people always got on Moana's case. She was just having a good time for herself. - That's correct. - And people were getting down on her for no real reason. - In this episode, Angela uses her influence to get Samantha into an exclusive boarding school, which Tony doesn't want her to attend. You know what? - Did she go? She never went. - She never went, no. I didn't really like "Who's the Boss?" But I love the spin-off series "Living Dolls" with Leo Remini and Holly Berry. - Leo Remini, she was like the tough friend, right? - She was a tough friend from back in Brooklyn, but got scouted to be a model. And in the spin-off, she went and became a model. It was a good host of models. - Yeah, but it was a fantasy series. - So I would have watched "Who's the Boss" as well. Again, even though I didn't like it. 8.30, only one growing pains. - Growing pains. - It's the only move here. This is in the height of growing pains. It's the first day of school. And Mike desperately wants to meet an attractive new student. Ben desperately wants to avoid the class bully. And Carol desperately wants a change of pace in the year ahead. This is a season two episode. Excuse me. And there's an interesting thing in this episode where Mike is humbled because he hits on this girl who's sort of had a summer sprouting into a woman. And he used to make fun of her as a buck tooth Becky. And didn't recognize her in the hits on her in the whole episode. And Ben is terrified because before the summer a school bully told me he was going to beat him up in the first day of school. So he meets the kid in the bathroom, the kid's about two feet shorter than him now. - But wait, wait, Ben was always like three feet tall, though. - This kid's really tiny. And then here's the interesting part. The kid was played by the actor who played Stinky Sullivan later in the series playing a different character. There's "Blay of Mind". - I don't know what you just said there, but wait. - You know, Stinky Sullivan, Ben's friend. - Yes, okay. - He was in this season two episode as a different character. - Oh, okay, I gotcha, gotcha. - I probably didn't explain it anymore. - I thought Stinky, who was like a third character, some of them got involved there. - No, growing pains did that a lot. They often recast the same people as different characters. - Growing pains, once again, I did not like any of those characters. - None of them? - None of them. - What about Maggie? - The mother? Ah, she was all right. The dad was a psychiatrist, right? - Yeah. - And what did the mom do? - Well, she started off as a stay-at-home mom and she wanted to go back to work. So that's why the show started. She was a newspaper reporter and then became a TV reporter. - That's quite the power couple there. - Yeah, she later became a senator on the show. - Really? - Yeah, they moved to DC in the last episode. - Oh, look at that. - So definitely would've watched that. - Yeah, I didn't find Kirk Cameron attractive. - No, did anyone? - I don't think so. - I mean, come on. - I think that was just kind of foisted upon teenage girls in the '80s and nobody really wanted that. - Remember his failed movie career? - No. - He tried to be in, there was like father like son. - Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. - He was switching bodies and then he had the very, very dramatic movie with Jamie Gertz that was supposed to be, he thought he'd win an Oscar called Listen to Me. - I don't remember that. - Yeah, that was bad. - Actually, my brother that I mentioned earlier, his, one of his fraternity brothers, I think married Jamie Gertz. - Really, are they still married? - I think so, yeah. - Could you get her on my show? - Probably not. - Oh. - They was either a fraternity guy or somebody he worked with at some point. But I remember there was a lot of talk of Jamie Gertz going on. - I would love to meet Jamie Gertz. - I don't think I can make that happen. - I don't think I can make that happen. - Oh, come on. - I could probably figure out the guy's name. - 'Cause you-- - I mean, Jamie Gertz probably listens to the show. - Well, we'll send her a link. - Okay, we'll send her a link. So nine o'clock, what do you go with? - I switch over to Norma Ray. - Norma Ray, so you love the movies. - I do, yeah. I like Sally Field. - I like Sally Field too. - I like Sally Field too. - I don't like dramas about unions. - Yeah, it's good though. - It's all right, but you passed out moonlighting. - Yeah, I never watched moonlighting. - You never watched moonlighting? - No. - Andrea Henry, you're disappointing and you left it right here. - I'm sorry. - What a great show moonlight. - I didn't quite understand what it was. I knew Civil Shepard and Bruce Willis. - Yeah, they were private detectives. It was a very fun show. - Did they have a day job or-- - That's their day job. You, private detective is a job. - Yeah, I know that, but what are they moonlighting us? - Well, 'cause she used to be a model and she inherited this detective agency. - I always thought they had two jobs and for some reason I thought they were working a nightclub in the night. - That'd be a really boring show if it's just about someone with two jobs. - That's what I thought it was. - And when he clerks that come was sort of that premise. He was, he had two jobs. He was like a DPW worker during the day and at night he was a doorman at a fancy Boston hotel. - It's a lot of hours to put in. - Well, you know, he's a blue collar guy and he had a family to take care of. So moonlighting was great. I can't believe you went with Norma Ray. But there was also a pretty good made for TV movie on this night called Joni May Gibson, FBI. And it says she had the courage to be herself as a wife, as a mother and as an undercover agent for the FBI. - All right, wait a minute. So you would watch that versus Norma Ray, poor factory woman of the South fighting her union. - Yes, absolutely, absolutely. Joni May Gibson, FBI, based on a true story? - Norma Ray was based on a true story. - Yeah, well I want to hear about it. I'm asking you can FBI you. All right, let's move on to Wednesday at eight o'clock. What do you got? - Okay, perfect strangers. So that's the one with the guy who came, what is that? - So this was about Baukey, Baukey. - Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. - Yes, and Mark Lynn Baker. I did watch this every week. This is when it was on Wednesdays. And this was the first season. In this episode, Larry, soon regrets having saved his cousin's life when Baukey, according to "Strict Me Popping Me Poapsy and Custom" becomes Larry's personal servant for life. - Wasn't that like a, the Seinfeld thing? - Yeah. - Yeah, the Butler thing. - The Butler thing. This episode called Twinkie, played by Ernie Sabella. - I don't know who that is. - Yeah, it's an okay episode. 'Cause the only other thing you watch on CBS that a CBS news special called AIDS Hits Home. - Uh oh, we got it. - That doesn't sound very fun. So at eight thirty, what do you go with? - Oh, head of the class. - Head of the class, no question about it. You're the first person who's picked out of the class and who also enjoyed it. - Yeah. - Did you want to be in that class? - Absolutely, I want to be in that class. - Was there a specific character you kind of wanted to be? - I just, I know, there wasn't a character. I wanted to be, I just wanted to be Andrea infused into that class. - Into that class. - Like somehow, this class happened in my high school and it was a Howard Hestman, he would be my new cool teacher. And then I'd be a little intimidated by the intelligence of the other kids. - Oh, absolutely. - I think I would like to try to rise to the occasion. - I think you would have fit in at the IHP. - I would have liked it. You know, I don't think I quite had the academic skills at the time. - But you work in academia now. - I do, I think, you know, I think that I would have been the small, fish and the big pond. - Okay. See, I was always intimidated by this show because it took place in Manhattan. And I thought it was really weird that there were kids that actually went to school in a city. - Yeah. - I mean, I have a very wide worldview at the time. But you're basically a guidance counselor now. - I'm a counselor, yeah, like a counselor at community college. So if you're having problems with your school stuff, you can come talk to me about it. So that's kind of like a guidance counselor. - Kinda, yeah. - More than I am. - Well, yeah, yeah. - Yeah. And how is that? - It's good. - And did you, do you think you got into that line of work because you fell in love with the drug college kids at the screening of Halloween and you never wanted to go away from them? - No, no, I think, I started working at colleges 'cause I originally started working at high schools. And then I got a job at college and I was like, wow, there was a lot less headaches here. - Yeah. - And I like working with these people better. - 'Cause they're more like people. They're more like people. And I just worked in that way. - But if you had worked in the head of the class high school, you probably would have been cool. And this episode-- - Although you know what, today was head of the class. It'd be all these parents calling up. - Why didn't my students want the SATs? - Yeah, why are you taking them to Russia? - Exactly, it'd be a whole different bag. - One by one, Charlie questions those he suspects of leaving him romantic notes via computer. - Whoa. - Yeah. - Look out. - Yeah, and it was Janice. - Of course. - Janice was the 12 year old. - Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. - Nine o'clock, what do you go with? - Women's bodybuilding. - Women's bodybuilding. I will admit, I did used to watch this sometimes. It was kind of fascinating. I also used to watch those strongest men in the world competitions that would be on ESPN as well. - Yeah. - I, women's bodybuilding is pretty amazing. I think I probably would have gone though with the Phil Silva show again. It was on for an hour. And I would have gone with that instead of women's bodybuilding. Have you watched women's bodybuilding before? - You know, I don't think I've ever like actually sat through a whole episode of it. - Yeah. - Yeah, they go out and they pose. I don't remember if they interviewed them at all. - I don't think they do. I don't think there's like a question. - They did a parade and they got numbers. - Yeah. Do you ever see them all be pumping iron? - I haven't, I'd like to. - That's a documentary with our sports and air. There's a little scene sequel called pumping iron two. - Oh yeah, the ladies. - The ladies. - That's right. - So if you want to scratch that itch, I think you can rent that. - Okay, well, I think I'm okay for the time being, but. - Okay, I'm just getting, I'm just trying to help. I'm just trying to help. - I appreciate it, okay. Like Thursday night, what do you go with? - Oh, you're gonna be upset with this. I had a caveat on here. I would have watched the river, but what I would have preferred to watch, I think that was on at six o'clock, was facts of life and good times. - Yeah, so that was in repeats at this time. The river I'm unfamiliar with, is this a film? - I think that's with Sissy Spacek and Mel Gibson and they have a farm and the rivers come in and they go. - This sounds very boring. - Yeah. - And you were bored by Indiana Jones? - Yeah, well, I'm not saying I would have liked it. I just, I would have, if I was scrolling through, is it that, is it what I'm thinking of? - There's a movie called "All the Rivers Run" with John Waters, not the director. That's on HBO, I'm not seeing "The River" on here. - That's on "The River." - I have the cat. - No, look at the little grid thing. - "Calls me show victory garden, Simon and Simon, Dynasty." - They screw this up. - I think you screwed up. They must have just said "The River" to abbreviate "All the Rivers Run" because there were some decent movies on this night. You passed up "Terror Train," which was Jamie Lee Curtis' follow-up to Halloween. Before she was in "Prom Night," you passed up a movie called "The Demon Murder Case" from 1983, which stars Kevin Bacon and Eddie Albert, one of my all-time favorite actors, and Andy Griffith. Two boys become possessed by evil spirits, resulting in eerie incidents and a stabbing death. - No, I wouldn't have liked that. - But it's good Kevin Bacon, Eddie Albert, and Andy Griffith in it. - Yeah, but the Andy Griffith thing, that's, I feel, he's kind of, don't be looked. - Did you ever think you'd see a movie about demon possession that started Andy Griffiths? - Why is Andy Griffith doing that? Does he only-- - 'Cause it was 1983. He didn't have anything going on. All right, so are you gonna revise "All the Rivers Run" through it? - I'd have to 'cause I really thought it was just "The River." - No, I can't see any-- - And I don't know, all right. - So you didn't pick anything at 8.30 because you weren't-- - I was so excited too. I thought it was a Sissy Space Deck movie. - No, it's not the Sissy Space Deck movie. I would have watched "Mr. Ed" at 8.30. - "Mr. Ed." - Yeah, there wasn't much on. I probably would have been watching "Territran" to be honest with you, but if I had to watch a half hour show I would have gone on "Mr. Ed." And then "I Spy" was on at 9, which was a great show with Bill Cosby. - What was that? - It was like a secret agent series with Bill Cosby from the '60s. It was one of the first things he ever did. - Oh, no, that'd be too retro for me. - Oh, it was really good. All right, and then I should mention 2020 was on Thursday night. - Why would I watch that? - That's the one show my parents didn't allow me to watch. - Why? - It scared me. It's the only thing that scared me. When it moved to Friday, it was really-- - Why were we afraid of the murder stories or something? - Just of all the real life things. So every episode I feel obligated to read what was on 2020 that week 'cause this-- - To freak yourself out. - Yeah, it's kind of what was Baby Ken Reid scared of this week. So in this particular week, a report on the case of Michael Raymond, whose undercover work helped expose municipal corruption in Chicago and New York all the while, however, says correspondent Lynn Shear. He was under suspicion for, quote, "a lot of crimes." - Ooh, spooky. - Yeah, and he was charged with the murder of a 70-year-old Florida woman. - Wow. - Yeah, so pretty fascinating. And there's a picture of him in here that I think you'll enjoy. - Let me judge him. Oh, he's handsome. - Yeah, isn't he good-looking? Maybe I'll scan that and people can take a look at him. - He's not bad, okay. - Or if you Google Michael Raymond's case, you'll probably see that. - Why a lot of Michael Raymond's stuff. - There probably is, yeah. Friday night, the final night, eight o'clock, what do you go with? - I went, this was, once again, I felt like I had some slim pickens. So I didn't look at the title. I mean, I didn't look at the description, I just kind of went off the title. I went with the girl most likely to, dot, dot, dot. - The girl most likely to is a made-for-TV movie from 1975, I believe it's a horror movie. - Oh boy. I think I chose the dot. - Yeah, it's not a dot, it's a pretty good movie, but it's pretty scary. - Oh, I remember. - And Joan Rivers actually wrote this. It's sort of a dark humor, scary, disturbing movie with Stockard Channing in it. - Okay. - And this is a dark humor farce about an ugly college girl whose looks in life are transformed by plastic surgery. - So how is it scary, then? - There are some creepy things in it. I don't wanna ruin it because I think you'd actually like it. - Oh, maybe I would-- - It actually sounds like a script you would write. - Yeah, I would check that out because that was-- - I have the DVD if you'd like to borrow it, yeah. - Let me take you up on this. - It's pretty good. And Joan Rivers was sort of underrated as a writer. She wrote the movie The Rabbit Test, and this movie-- - Oh yeah, The Rabbit Test. - Yeah, which were really weird, funny, sort of, allty movies, and I think don't think she gets enough credit for that. - No, The Rabbit Test was a big deal, I remember it. - Oh yeah, it was very funny. So you passed up Garfield's Halloween adventure in Charlie Brown, which I definitely wanna watch this night, but I'm not gonna get into that with you at this point because I just feel like I'd be too upset. Webster was on, and this was a very special Webster 'cause it featured Papa, my favorite character on Webster, the Greek Papa. The family thinks Papa has a vision problem when he asks Webb to fill out forms for him and gets lost in traffic, but the truth is-- - Uh-oh. - Do you know what it is? - Alzheimer's. - Nope. - Papa never learned to read. - It's illiterate. - Yeah, he's a little literate Greek immigrant. - Wait, wait, wait. So Webster's, once again, one of those shows that I was aware of just never watched. So Webster lived with a Greek family? - Yes, so George Papadopoulos was on the football team with Webster's dad, and Webster's parents died in a car crash, so in their will, they left a plane crash, I think, actually. They left Webster to his best friend, George Papadopoulos-- - George, no, this was coming down the pike that he-- - No, it was kind of a surprise, it was kind of a surprise. Papa, Papa, Papadopoulos, this is one of, this is two of my favorite episodes of Webster that involve Papa, Papa, Papadopoulos, and this is one of them. - Now, I'm Greek. Was Webster then raised in the Greek church? - No, they never really addressed Greek traditions. - Interesting. - Yeah, there was no Greek Orthodox. They didn't do Greek Easter. - I remember we went to the no-name restaurant in Boston. You remember the no-name? - Yes, still there. - Was it still there? - Yeah. - And there was a African American waiter, and he spoke Greek, and my dad, his mind was just blonde. - That would blow my mind. - Blew his mind. - That's a TV pilot right there. - 'Cause yeah, I guess he lived on boats or something in Greece. I don't know if he was sailing around, but my dad was amazed. - This guy's story's fascinating. - Yeah, that's all I know about him though. - Is he the one that married Jimmy Gertz? - He might have, yeah. - I could see her marrying that guy. - No, that was our only connection with the waiter, but I will never forget. - I don't think-- - So this was like a black Greek thing, so Webster-- - So did you think he was a grown-up Webster? - You know, I didn't really know the story of Webster now, but had it, I think this was, it was really little, so I didn't think this was pre-Webster, but-- - Okay. - I would have, you know, had I known this, I bet if I had told my dad this whole Webster thing, he would have been down and watching this. - If your dad would have watched Webster-- - Yeah. - Was he dead from Greece or the second generation? - No, no, no, no, no, no, no. - I've been in Greek town in Detroit. - Yeah, I've been there. - A lot of things on fire, on purpose. - Yeah, yeah, you know, 'cause my husband's family's from Detroit, so we go out there every Christmas. - Oh, I like Detroit. - Yeah, it's, you know, I don't really like what Detroit is, like, you go to New York City now, and it's all safe and nice and old navies everywhere and stuff, where you go to Detroit, and it's kinda like how New York was in the '80s. - It's like a theme park of '70s America. - Exactly, but it's just with a little bit scariness. - So I would have watched Garfield, as I mentioned, it's the Halloween special, which is one of my favorites, but Webster was always on the cards, otherwise. 830, you're still watching the girl most likely to. I definitely would have gone with Charlie Brown and Great Pumpkin, but there was a local show on-- - Okay, I love local shows. - With weatherman Dick Albert, who people from the Boston area, Dick Albert is still on TV, his last name is in Albert, that's actually his middle name, he has a Jewish last name that I won't reveal, 'cause he'll sue me, but not 'cause he's Jewish, just 'cause he's litigious. But on Channel 5, there was a thing called "Use your smarts about drugs and alcohol." - You know what, if you look, Ken, I think I started to write that down. - You're gonna watch it, and then you-- - I wrote "Use," I wrote "Webster," and then I started to write "Use," 'cause I was curious about "Webster." And then I saw this. - But you went with the girl most likely to. - Yeah, you know why? I think, 'cause I knew that "Use your smarts" was local programming, and I thought I was looking at the seven o'clock time. - Right, right. - Why would I put that on the front? - Why would I put that on a front time on a Friday night? But this one was, "Join Dick Albert," as he discusses the use and misuse of drugs and alcohol, and this is the best part, in an upbeat music-filled special. - Oh, that would've been good. - A program on the dangers of substance abuse includes dramatizations of peer pressure, music videos, and discussions with Boston area teenagers. I need to find this. - That's awesome. - In 1986, Boston area teenagers singing and discussing drugs and alcohol, can you think of anything better than that? - No, I can't. I can think of one thing that comes close, Tom Carter's, was it soapbox? - Yes, yeah. - I used to enjoy soapbox. - I will also mention that I most certainly would've watched this, but Mr. Belvedere was on, and this is a particularly good episode. With his 18th birthday only days away, Kevin becomes preoccupied with losing his virginity. - Uh oh, whoa, wait a minute, wait a minute. Was Mr. Belvedere, wasn't he like the housekeeper? - He was, yeah. - Isn't this like a kids show? - Not really. - Okay. - It was actually created by, guys used to work on Barney Miller, which was kind of an more adult show. But in this episode, he goes, and he sort of befriends the school slut. - Oh, look out. - And yeah, 'cause he's heard she's easy, and so he takes her out on dates, and she thinks that he really likes her. - Wow. - So they go out on like five dates, and then he gets frustrated, 'cause he's like, come on, I heard you got a reputation. So she takes the couch bed, and it's like, how are we doing right here? Is this what you want? Is this what you want? And he's like, no. And it's pretty uncomfortable. - That sounds traumatizing. I always thought like, and Mr. Belvedere was like a punky Brewster. - Oh no, oh, well, Punky Brewster was disturbing as hell. - Yeah, I mean-- - But it sounds like kind of one and the same. - Yeah, they were sort of similar. - Well, there were no episodes about people losing their virginity on Punky Brewster. - No, not on Punky Brewster, but there wasn't Facts of Life in Blossom. - Yeah, but, yeah, but Facts of Life. Who, what was the episode? - Natalie loses her virginity to her boyfriend Snake, who played Da Mone in "Fast Times at Ridge One High." - No way. - Yes, yes. - That Da Mone. - Season eight. - Well, wait, how old was she? - She was supposed to be 21. - Oh, all right, then. - Yeah, but it was gonna be Delano. - All right, well, it wasn't like they were at the boarding school. - No, no, no, no, this was, it was after she was sexually assaulted. - Wait, she was sexually assaulted? - Yeah, she was coming from a Halloween party actually. - Natalie? - Dressed is all of her hardy, and she essentially assaulted. Yeah, what a twisted writer, her wrote that. - Yeah. - Yeah, yeah, well, huh. - All right, so nine o'clock, you are still watching "Girl Most Likely To." - Yes. - I definitely would have been watching "Sledgehammer," which is one of my absolute favorite shows starring David Rashi, who looks exactly like Michael Paul. In this episode, Doreau and Hammer are taken hostage during a bank robbery after she insists that he learned to handle things, quote, "like a civil human being." What a great show. It was sort of a parody of the dirty Harry movies. - Was it like serious? - No, no, it's very silly, very silly, very silly fun show. And then at 9.30, one of my favorite shows of the era, "Side Kicks," starring Ernie Raised Jr., martial arts expert Ernie Raised Jr., who was in "Red Sonja." And he was also one of the Ninja Turtles in the first two Ninja Turtles movies. But Ernie's concerned about expensive merchandise in the house, Rizzo's security, and their apparently tight finances seem justified when international affairs takes Ernie and Rizzo, and Rizzo was played by Gil Girard, Buck Rogers himself, into custody. Brian James is in this episode who is a great character actor also in "Blade Runner." And Frank Bonner was in it from WKRP in Cincinnati. - Oh, Mr. Gordon? - That's right. No, no, Mr. Gordon was Gordon Jump. - Oh, okay. - Frank Bonner was a herb, herb, yeah. - Herb, herb, herb, yeah. - But what a fun show you would've missed out 'cause you're watching the girl most likely to. - I've never heard of that show. - It was a fun show. It was very, very short-lived. But I remember I got so excited watching "Side Kicks" one night that I kicked a hole in our wall and my dad got really mad. And I blamed it on "Side Kicks," and he said, "You're all right." So Andrea Henry, we've come to the end of our week. And as you know, TV Guide does not just inform us. It is very judgmental. It cheers and it jeers. - Oh, good, all right. - I would like to read you this week's Cheers and jeers and see if you agree or disagree. First, jeers to CBS for playing a TV movie about Sidney Biddybarrows, the Mayflower madam whose headed New York's most sophisticated call girl rang prior to her 1984 arrest. - Wait, that was a jeer? - That's a jeer. - I strongly disagree. I am a big Sidney Biddybarrows man. - You enjoy the Mayflower madam. - I love the Mayflower madam. Read the book. - She was on "Saturday Night Live" at the time. - She really? - Yeah, she was very famous. - Yeah, no, I would've-- - Disagree. - Strongly disagree, that sounds like a great movie. - Wow. Cheers to NBC's "Today" for letting the chips fall where they may. Last month, the show carried a candid interview with an understandably upset Pierce Brosnan. Brosnan had just lost out on the chance to play James Bond because NBC had decided to capitalize on the publicity of that casting and renew his canceled series "Remington Steel." - So wait, is that a cheer or a jeer? - That's a cheer for Brosnan going on there and being like, hey, NBC, go fuck yourself. - Okay. - I think he probably would've said it more Irish though. - Well, you know, but he eventually got to play James Bond. - He did. - And that probably got him more attention. You know, I am-- - It also led to us getting Timothy Dalton James Bond, which was kind of fun. - Yeah, I'm staying neutral on that. - Neutral, okay, neutral. She's voting present. - Geers to cables W-TBS for computer colorizing such black and white Hollywood classics as Yankee Doodle Dandy and the Maltese Falcon. - I'm okay with that. - Really, this was a big controversy at the time. - Yeah, I remember that controversy. - Local Boston radio station, actually MIT's radio station, WMBR, 88.1, which I listened to frequently, used to be called W-TBS and Ted Turner bought the letters, TBS from them for a huge amount of money, which sort of funded that station for about 20 years. - That's good. - But he did colorize movies. - I can't watch a colorized movie. - You know, I don't have a problem with it. - Why? Do you not watch black and white movies? - No, no, I watch black and white movies. It doesn't upset me. I wouldn't seek out a colorized movie, but if it hadn't be on it, sometimes it's kind of cool. Do you like look how they colored things? - But is that a bastardization of the original movie? - No, just 'cause they didn't have a technology back then. - Would you be okay with it if they redubbed all the voices? - No, no, because then you're putting different actors in. I mean, I think they didn't have the technology and it's a choice. It's not like they said we're gonna destroy all the black and white ones forever. - But I don't think they made them in black and white necessarily because they didn't have the technology. I think in many cases they did have the technology, but it was an artistic, aesthetic choice. - Maybe. I'm just, I'm okay with that. I believe in choice. If you wanna watch a color, you can watch a color, you can watch a color. - I'm just sayin' Ted Turner, who do you think you are? So we disagree on that one. - Yeah, so agree to disagree. - Yep, cheers to the emergence of a cadre of women's sports announcers who know their stuff. And then it lists all these women's sports announcers. - And you know what, I'm jeering that 'cause I don't want them wasting my TV guy time. Cheers and jeers with sports related things. - Yeah, although what if it's women's weightlifting? Would you want men calling on or women? - I'm okay, you know, if you're qualified to do it, terrific, I just don't think we should waste cheers and jeers space with sports things. - I agree, I agree. And finally, cheers to Johnny Carson, last April Carson saw a Macnail, Larry NewsHour story about four college students with pressing financial problems and immediately tapped his John W. Carson Foundation to provide the money they needed to continue their studies. - Do those kids ever hear it again in a job all the summer? - Yeah, I mean, why do they need Johnny Carson to bail 'em out? I think that's just a little PR for Carson. I'm not gonna agree to that cheer. - Yeah, I disagree to, I need to know more. And you know, I don't know. - And then they're just indentured servants to Johnny Carson, he probably made them be pool boys for the rest of their lives. - Yeah, so I know, I disagree with that. - Awful. Well, Andrea Henry, we had a pretty lively conversation here. I learned a lot about you. I lost a little respect for you. - That happens. - But then I regained it. So we're at about a net gain of zero at this point. - I'll take that. - And we'll agree to disagree. Thank you so much for being on the show. - Thank you for having me, Tanner. - You're welcome. (upbeat music) - There you go. Andrea Henry, we've agreed to disagree at the end there. Andrea's great, she's really funny. If you have a chance to see her, check out some of her stuff, definitely do so. And as always, you can email me at TVguyscounselor@gmail.com or at can and Icanread.com. 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