The Boston Marathon continues everybody, welcome to The First, maybe it'll be an annual event, I don't know. But first we'll say, TV guidance counselor Boston Marathon in which I'm releasing a bunch of episodes today that I had sort of backed up because I had been lucky enough to have a boon of great episodes and a all feature people who either started in Boston or from Boston or currently live in Boston, it is the Boston Marathon. Get it? You see what I did there? This episode is with Daniel Soto. Daniel actually is from Boston and started here, but we lost her to Los Angeles. She is out there pursuing comedy. She is a huge fan of the Golden Girls as we get to in this episode. So without further ado, please enjoy the continuing Boston Marathon of TV guidance counselor with my guest, Daniel Soto. Daniel Soto, Daniel, welcome. Thank you. You're welcome. Welcome to my home. Thanks for coming by. I'm really excited to be here. Thank you. Yes, you should be excited. It's an extremely exciting place, I think, for everybody, just anyone. How I feel. Yeah. So the TV guide you've chosen is from May 28th, June 3rd, 1988, and what drew you to this TV guide? Well, I've always been a fan of television from the '70s and '80s, for the most part. Okay. I grew up big time watching Nick at night. I loved all the old shows, and so I definitely wanted to pick something from prior to, like, my generation, because... You've made many people feel very old with these statements, and that's fine. See, were you born? They don't know. They don't know how old they are. Wow. I could be 18. But 1988, prior to your generation. I was born in 1988. Oof. So this was the year you were born. What month were you born? January. Okay. So you were around, at least, then. You were a few months into this, and this has the final season of Family Ties is on the cover here. You have Brian Bosnell, who was Andy, who later went to jail for beating his girlfriend. I don't know if you knew that. No. He moved to Colorado and was in punk rock bands. You can Google his mugshot. Is he still in Colorado? He may be. He should have looked him up. He should have. He should have. He's got a lot of facial piercings and kind of get a methy thing going on. I don't know if he is in that world, but he's got that look about him. Okay. That kind of sounds like... Okay. Yeah. He felt pretty far. A lot of child stars. Absolutely. Absolutely. And so another interesting thing is, am I correct in saying you've never actually utilized the TV guide? I've never used a TV guide, but actually, now that I'm looking at it, I'm getting flashbacks. So you think you have, but you repressed it, or it was just so unmemorable that was... Well, I have a really bad memory, as our listeners will probably find out as we continue to talk. But was that in the newspaper? Like the TV... No, no. So there was TV Week, which was the free one that came in the newspaper, which was sort of like the low rent TV guide. Okay. But did it have that format of like the... The grid? Yeah. Yeah. Yes. The TV guide grid was utilized by other things later. That definitely is. But it was innovated by TV guide. Right. Yeah. That was a throwback, right? Yeah. Because so... And I always noticed a strange correlation growing up, and I don't know if you'll agree with this or not. But there was always the people who used the TV Week from the newspaper for summaries and always had toaster ovens. We had a toaster oven. Did you use the TV Week and not a TV guide? Every single time. I don't understand it. This is like this rule has never been broken. The people who got TV guide had toasters and TV Week are toaster oven people. I don't know why those two things are linked. These people need like, gratification. So they're like, big old pizza people. I need to eat this and I need to know what's on it. I'm not, I'm not paying for TV guide and I want to be able to melt cheese in a toaster oven. Yeah. We're demanding people. Wow. Well it's, once again my theory continues to be correct, thank you for reinforcing that. Okay. So let's get right into it. Saturday night, eight o'clock, May 28th. I know what I would have watched and I think you may be on the same page on this one. But what did you pick? You take the good, you take the bad, you take the vote, then you have the facts of life. Absolutely. Facts of life. This was NBC's powerhouse on Saturday night. This was sadly the final season of Facts of Life where they just kept trying to get spin offs desperately for this show. Was this one Blair was the headmaster? She very nearly was the headmaster, but it was later, a couple weeks after that she was the headmaster. So what they tried to do was they did a two-part finale in which Blair purchased Eastland and they wanted to do like a Facts of Life the next generation. So Mrs. Garrett was on it. No, Mrs. Garrett left in season six and Beverly Ann Stickel, her cousin replaced her obviously by Clarice Leachman. And so, yeah, the whole last season, every third episode or so, they tried to do a spin off. So they did one where Natalie moved to New York City and lived in a loft apartment with Richard Greco and David Spade, which didn't go. There was what they called backdoor pilots, have you ever heard that term? No. So what a backdoor pilot is is when a TV show sort of shoe horns in new characters and introduces them on an established show to try and do a spin off later. Gotcha. So if you've seen a show where you're like, I don't understand why there are all of a sudden hanging out in this bar all of a sudden with these people we've never seen before. There's an episode of the nanny like that. Yes, that's a backdoor pilot. They're all in a hair salon with like these wacky hairdressers. And the main characters are very minor roles. So that's a backdoor pilot. So there were many shows that had that they were always trying to do spin offs. And so facts select the final season. Sorry, I'm getting ahead of myself. It's a little underhanded. Well, is an empty nest sort of? Empty nest was a genuine spin off. It wasn't a backdoor pilot, but it was a golden girls episode. It was a golden girl spin off, right? There was an episode called empty nest where all those characters came in for no reason like they did best friends forever. Right. It did. It sort of empty nest sort of bridged the gap between the true spin off and the backdoor pilot because Richard Mulligan showed up in a few episodes of golden girls before that. Like maybe one or two, I want to say, but you probably a bigger golden girl spin than I am. But yeah, then when they introduced his family and all these other previously unmentioned neighbors, yeah, that's pretty much how a backdoor pilot works. And then empty nest was one of the few spin offs that had a spin off of its own. Nurses. Nurses, which is a rare, which is a rare thing. That's right. So they kept really trying. And so what their plan was was to continue the show with this sort of next generation of Eastland students. They let boys into the school that year, which is why Seth Green was in the episode. And Juliet Lewis was also one of the students there. So random. How many like George Clooney was on that? Oh yeah, for two seasons. Ringwald was in the first season when they fired everybody. Yeah. Yeah, big stars. A lot of big stars on it. It was a great show. I prefer seasons six through nine myself. Like the final four years were the overall heads years were the much better years of facileife in my opinion. Okay. I like the seasons where it was like the four girls, Natalie, Joe, Blair, Tootie. Okay. And it's like straight up facile. Right. So like seasons three through six is like, you like that sort of bridging the seventies and eighties with this. Yeah. Like I remember that episode where they met this girl named Tumpy who was smoking weed in her dorm room. Yes. And Natalie and two. You were too young to know what was going on. Right. And they went to the record store and bought Bong's from Mrs. Garrett thinking that you get jelly beans in them. Yes. Yes. And she was like, what is this? Yeah. That's like my ideal saxophone. Well, like early, so in the later seasons, it got a little less serious. So there was the famous episode where Natalie lost her virginity to her boyfriend named Snake. But they, the early seasons had some pretty grim, serious episodes. Like there was one when Natalie was sexually assaulted while dressed as all of her hardy from Laurel and hardy of all things. There was a lot of suicides. There was like three. Yeah. There was alcoholism. Alcoholism. I remember the one like Jermaine Jackson. Yes. That was pretty devastating. Yeah. But that was a little later. The destroyed, they destroyed Tootie's bust she had made of him. Yeah. Yes. They thought it was a bomb. Yeah. And this. That was an episode they got drunk. Oh, yeah. That happened frequently. Blair and Joe. Yeah. Not as good wine or something. As the Cosby Show episode where there is, why am I 10% of blood cell, why am I blanking on her character name? The middle daughter on the Cosmo Show, not Denise, that's Lisa Bonet. Not Rudy between Lisa Bonet and Rudy. Oh my god, I'll think of it later. But anyway, she gets drunk and comes home drunk and then they play a drinking game with her the next day with Rudy and she thinks they're all getting drunk to teach her a lesson. That was a good one. Oh, okay. But Fax life was a great show. This is the absolute only pick you could have done at 8 o'clock. There was nothing else on that was worth watching. Some people would have gone with Star Trek the next generation. Those people are incorrect. They're wrong. Okay. So let's move on to 8.30. Only really one choice here. Go ahead. Go. It's your pick. I got nothing. You didn't pick anything? No. You didn't pick 227? No. I've never watched that. You would have had to have watched 227. I think had I been sitting in front of my television, you would have kept it on NBC. I would have watched that or gotten a snack. So you've never seen 227? 227 was a great show. I loved that lady from Cystic. JK Herr. Yeah. JK Herr is very funny. She was on Celebrity Fit Club too. Yes, yes. There's a lot on that. I'd like to. You should follow her on Twitter. Oh, okay. That's a very, very, very, very, very funny. She's very funny. So 227 started as a play. It was a place in Washington, D.C. and it took place in a black. It wasn't intentionally black, but it was like a apartment building of all black people. In D.C. and that's basically what the show is about. And it was Marla Gibbs who was on the Jefferson's. She played their housekeeper if you ever watched the Jefferson's. Yeah. It was a great show. This particular episode is really bizarre. So in this episode, Sandra's friend Jesse aims to open a club called Two Gun Mary. And Mary dreams up a musical western showdown. So this is like a fantasy episode where they're all in the Wild West. It's very, very strange. I'll have to check that out. One of my features, Marla Gibbs' husband on the show, is played by this guy, Hal Williams. And most episodes, basically, Hal Williams just wanted to eat his dinner and everybody's bothering him. But in my home, which I will show you after this, we do have an autographed photo in a frame of Hal Williams. And my favorite thing about it is it says Hal Williams actor who felt the need to red actor. Which is great. Show me that in a minute. So you should watch 227. You really missed out. I'm going to check it out. Nine o'clock. Obviously, you probably want Golden Girls. I went with Golden Girls. Golden Girls is my all time favorite television show of any TV guide I could have picked up. And did you watch Golden Palace when it switched? So here's some background on me and Golden Girls. Okay. I didn't start watching Golden Girls until I was in college. So it was too late for Golden Palace at that point? Far too late, except I did catch it on YouTube. Okay. Like I watched old episodes of it. So I did see the first season of Golden. I think there was only one season. Yeah. It was like half a season. It didn't even get that far. Yeah. I think eight episodes or something. Yeah. Not very good. Did watch it. There was an episode where B.R. comes back. Yes. And they kind of have an argument over how they're treating Sophia. Right. If she's working too hard, if she needs to rest. And I did. I hate the episodes of, I shouldn't say hate. I love all of them. But the episodes. It's okay to hate girls. No, no. It's not. When they fight. I... You only like it when they get along? See, most people enjoyed the fighting. Mm-mm. No. There's an episode where they all go bowling and they split up into two teams. This is on Golden Girls, not Golden Palace. Yeah. And I think I've seen that episode maybe like ten times. And it bothers you. Just a small amount. Because I don't like them being competitive with one another. I'm not. That's a little weird. Yeah. That's a little weird. You just want them all to get on. And is it only Golden Girls that you have this issue with? Or are there other shows? I haven't thought about it. Where you're like... Everyone can fight on other shows with just not Golden Girls. Yeah. I think it's just the Golden Girls. There's another episode where Blanche and Sophia are fighting over a man. I don't like that one because I just don't like them pitted against one another. So this episode... This episode probably would have been alright for you then. So in this particular episode it takes nerve, but Blanche makes a move on Ted, the brother of Dorothy's ex, when she learns he's a neurosurgeon, putting the moves on Dorothy's ex's brother. It's a good one. That's a good one because Stan is in it. So you're a fan of... A lot of people would be like, oh, not a Stan episode. I love the Stan episode. You love the Stan episode. I think they're hilarious. I think that's Be Arthur at her best. No, were you familiar with the cast of the Golden Girls from the previous series? Or was this the first introduction you had to any of them? I had seen episodes of... Are you talking like the Mary Tyler Moore show? Like knowing... You got like Maud or the Mary Tyler Moore show. So I had seen the Mary Tyler... God forbid Momma's family. I had seen Momma's family. It was when I was in high school, when I used to get dressed in the morning on TBS with Saved Bell. Very important every day to get dressed for the morning. Yes. I would watch Saved by the Bell. And then if I was running late, the next show would come on and that was Momma's family. So I had to catch like... What a weird... Yeah, right. Collect... That's a very strange hour. That's a fact. Saved by the Bell and Momma's family? Yeah. Weirdly, Saved by the Bell out of those two shows is the more realistic show. I know. They all... How rare is that? Weirdly, I'll Saved by the Bell hangtime, Saved by the Bell California dreams. Sometimes it would be the college years and the Momma's family. Which I mean, Momma's family is the opposite of college. Yeah. The complete polar opposite. What a terrible, terrible shit. That's my least favorite sitcom of all time, Momma's family. Oh, I want to think of my least favorite sitcom of all time. It really should be Momma's family. There's nothing worse than Momma's family. Well, that's the worst. I don't want to take that for me. Well, I think I should be everybody. Oh, okay. So if we could somehow... If I had one wish, it would be to just erase Momma's family from history. You're interested in something good that came out of Momma's family? No. Not even at ending was good enough to have worn one positive thing to say about... She just kept going. Yeah, she just kept going. Because the end was bad too. Yeah, it was bad too. So you... Nine o'clock, you're one of the Golden Girls. I probably admittedly would have gone on with Dr. Who at this time. I liked Golden Girls quite a bit, but it was a repeat that night because we're into May, so it's kind of the repeat season we're getting into the summer. So I would have gone with Dr. Who. It's a Tom Baker episode. It's the Robot of Death. I would have had to do it on PBS, but please forgive me. 930, what do you got? What are we on Saturday? I didn't think anything. You would have had to go with A-M-N. What is that? A-M-N was Sherman Helmsley from the Jeffersons playing a deacon in a church. Okay. And that's pretty much the whole plot. Then I guess I would have said... So you would have stuck with NBC on that. I think that's what you should have gone with. This episode of A-M-N in a week-moment Delma, who is Sherman Helmsley's daughter on the show, spills her feelings on the Reverend's answering machine, then her father goes out on a ledge to retrieve the embarrassing message. Wow. A ledges played a big part in a lot of sitcoms. I think... Yeah, family matters. Almost every sitcom had an episode where people were on a ledge. Facts of Life. Yeah. There was a grief counselor that worked in the last season, actually, of this season that we're talking about, that worked in the youth center that Joe worked in, and she decided she can't take it anymore and stands out on a ledge to kill herself, and Joe has to talk her off the ledge. Wow. That's interesting. Even the newer sitcoms that kind of pay homage to the older sitcoms, have you ever seen Hot and Cleveland? I haven't. I... I was a little wary of it. You might like it because it does pay a lot of tribute to the old sitcoms. Okay. There are a ton of guest stars from the old days. When I saw it live in Los Angeles, I went to a tape. Was it the only taping of a sitcom or a TV show that you've ever rented? That's right. Yeah. That was my first and only. And I went by myself and I wore my Betty White t-shirt. Nice. Okay. So the cast of Hot and Cleveland, first of all, is Valerie Bernelli. Yes. From two... I mean, not too close for comfort. One day at a time. One day at a time. And then there's Jane Leaves from Frasier. From Frasier. And from the sitcom Throb. She was on a sitcom called Throb that took place in a hip new wave record label in New York City that was on for three years. She played like the record executive that like signed people. She was like an A&R person. That's cool. And then there's Wendy Malick from John Shoot Me. Yes. Just shoot me. And Dream On. Did you ever see Dream On on HBO? No. It was Brian Ben Ben and John Landis produced it. It was the first sitcom that they ever had on HBO. Excuse me. And it was this guy who was sort of ruined by television growing up. So like the show is a regular sitcom, but all of his inner thoughts were clips from old TV shows. Whoa. It's called Dream On. It's called Dream On. The first two seasons are on DVD. I want to see that. It was a pretty decent show, although there's sometimes they shoehorn nudity and just because it's HBO and it makes no sense what the show, no commercials either, but the show was pretty funny. And she played Brian Ben Ben's ex-wife in that. She's great. She always plays kind of an icy... I like it. I did get it. I think that her characters are like awesome. She's really funny and she's a good actress and she has great comic timing. True. Yes. I really like Wendy now, like a lot. She was in one of my favorite episodes of Kate and Ally where she played, which it looks like it'll get to in a moment, but she played Ally's husband's new wife. And so Jane Curtin's husband's new ex-husband's new wife. And so she plans a Thanksgiving dinner for everybody and it somehow, due to a series of unfortunate events, ends up with just her and Wendy Malick and everyone else is stuck, so it's just the two of them and it's very, very good. That's awesome. Highly recommended. I'll check that out. All right. So she's on Hot and Cleveland. Oh, yeah. So they always have episodes where somebody from the old show comes back. Oh, and of course Betty White is on it. Right, right. She plays Alka. And I mean David Spade has been on it. The dad from Frasier. You mean the dad from say anything? Sure. Do you ever see say anything? The same guy. Yeah. He's Ioni Sky's dad that commits the fraud and is defrauding the old people. Have you ever seen say anything? No. Oh, sorry. You should see say anything. It's a classic Q-SAC. I would be taking notes, but I'll just listen to them. That's fine. Yeah. That works as well. Yeah. So I think you'd like it. It's the reason I bring it up is because there's several episodes. Well, I shouldn't say several, at least two come to mind where someone's standing on a ledge. Perfect. Is there? So the other big things is either someone holds the whole group hostage, which happened very frequently. Yeah. It happened in Golden Girls in the Christmas episode, actually. Sure did. Or they're trapped in an elevator with someone giving birth. Of course, which happened on the nanny? Happened on the nanny. Happened on the night court. Say it by the bell. Facts of life. Family ties. It happened in many, many shows. Yeah. Wait, what's that, a fresh prince? Yes. Does it happen in a fresh prince? Yeah. Yes. Did it happen on... What was your question? Did it happen hot and clean? Hot and clean. Yeah. That's the classic. Not that I know of. That's to this day. That's why I will never write an elevator with a pregnant woman. Won't do it. Will not do it. That's why I don't trust people with neck braces. Because you think they're gonna... They're faking. You think they're faking. Faking for a lawsuit. They do teach us in a lot of sitcoms that anyone with a neck brace is a shy stare that's trying to just screw everyone over. They might be right. It's the easiest. Yeah. Oh, my neck. Yeah. Classic. Classic. All right, so I also will mention on Saturday night at 10 o'clock, even though that was not within the parameters of what we're looking at, Spencer for hire was on, which is the best show from Boston ever. Okay. Highly recommend you watch that. He kills so many people. Wow. He's a private investigator in Boston. He shot it in Boston. It was the last TV series that regularly shot in Boston, and I pretty much mention it every single one. Is that for real? It's the last one. It's not like Boston public. They didn't shoot that here. So they would shoot exteriors here for some shows. But Spencer for hire was completely shot in Boston full show every episode. It was very expensive. And then the unions actually tried to squeeze them and the show got canceled because they made it too expensive. Dang. But it's a good show. Cool. On to Sunday night, eight o'clock. What do you got? Family ties. Perfect, perfect, perfect. Also get to the end of family ties is run here. Yeah. I had a final episode. I was so upset in third grade when the final episode aired that I had to stay home from school the next day. Okay. I was just a couple months old. But. Yeah. It could have been upsetting as well. I was probably crying. Yeah. What happened? So Alex moves away. Oh. So that was the last episode. But then at the very last scene, they all came out and like waved to the crowd. Oh. And it was this big thing. And I've been watching that show since 1982 since it started and I was two years old. So as far as I was concerned, this show was on for my whole life. Yeah. So it's very devastating. Wow. No, I have a show like that that we'll talk about later that I have that was on for my whole life. But yeah, I love family ties. I thought it was a great show. You could. This is a tangent, but I would almost like to hear a show that's like all about pilots and finales. Yeah. Well, what? That'd be cool. Well, TV Land used to do that every New Year's Eve on every New Year's Eve. They'd show the last episodes and New Year's Day would be all first episodes. Oh my God. That's great. So it was called first and last. It was great. They did it every year and they stopped maybe five years ago, but that was really cool. Yeah. They do a whole 24 hours of last episodes, so you'd see like 48 different ones. I'm going to write to them. You should write to them. I once wrote to Lifetime Television to say that I really liked that the Golden Girls was on. Oh, nice. And they sent me a mug. A Golden Girls mug or a lifetime mug. A lifetime mug. Yeah. And were you like, does this have a lifetime guarantee this mug? I still have it. So far so good. I used to work at a local TV station and I have many mugs. I have a Judy Mug that's about very proud of and that's probably the best mug I got from them, I think. Nice. But a lifetime mug is good. Actually, the lifetime used to run, used to air reruns of Spencer for hire, weirdly. There you go. And the days and nights of Molly Dodd, which was a really good show as well. I've heard of it. I've never seen it. Pretty good show. I think you'd like that as well. Nice. Many things I'm telling you to watch that you'll never, ever watch. I will. Fair enough. I love watching new shows. So this figure episode of Family Ties, Alex's surprise support bolsters Mallory's campaign for student body president with a fresh timely platform, confidence, diet soda and new drapes. That was the episode. Not the best synopsis I've ever read for that really kind of let's that episode down, which is a better episode than that warrants. To be totally honest, the synopsis of the Golden Girls one, I didn't find so great either. It wouldn't really move you to watch the show if you. No, I totally would, but there's just a lot more happening. There's so much happening. They miss out on the subtleties and the onion like layers of complexity in the Golden Girls. TV Guide is kind of like smooth. It's like you could watch it if you want. It's just the facts. Yeah. Take it or leave it. Whatever. I don't care. Doesn't bother me. Yeah. TV Guide does kind of have that attitude. I will also say that one of the best spin-offs that never happened was one called Nick. That was a family tie spin-off of Nick's boy friend Nick, played by Scott Valentine. They just released it in the family ties DVD box set of the complete series, the episode of Nick is in there. Oh, and she just won an episode? Yeah. It was just a pilot that didn't get picked up. It wasn't a backdoor pilot. What did you call it? No, a backdoor pilot is when they introduced characters just to spin them off, but Nick has been in the series for several seasons. He didn't. He had a very short-lived movie career, Scott Valentine. He was in a movie called My Demon Lover that was about a guy, it was a comedy, and it was in the wake of Teen Wolf, and it was about a guy that when he got aroused turned into a demon, so he was always trying to have relationships, but it was pretty hard. Pretty much. I think it was a metaphor for just general men in general. Very entertaining, awful movie, My Demon Lover, and then he was in a movie called To Sleep with a Vampire, where he plays a vampire and him and this woman just sit in a room and talk all night. All night? Yeah, it was like an indie movie where it's not good. That's the whole movie. That's the whole movie. One room. It's like a bottle episode, but it's a movie called To Sleep with a Vampire with Scott Valentine. Wow. Nick from Family Ties. Weird. I saw a great episode of Family Ties recently. It was season one and Mallory gets molested, assaulted, I'll say assaulted. Was she dressed like all of her hardy? No, not in this one. She was at the studio visiting her dad, who worked for PBS, where there's a lot of very dangerous people. Exactly, and they were doing a telethon, as they do, and she ran into her dad's friend and he was like, oh, yes, I recall this one, yes, the sleazy college buddy. Hug from uncle, whatever, and he hugs her and he grabs her ass, and it's super creepy, but you're like, oh, that was fucked up, maybe just like stay away from him. And then he's over at the house, and everyone goes in the kitchen, and he apologizes to her. He's like, I don't know what I was thinking, yes, I remember that one. I'm so sorry if I made you uncomfortable, and she's like, oh my God, I'm glad it was a misunderstanding. And she's like relieved, and then he kisses her on the mouth. And she's like 15 in this house. Yeah, 15. And finally, she tells her mom, and that's who you'd tell, out of the two parents on Family Ties, if you wanted one that you think would kick ass, you'd tell Meredith Baxter Bernie. True. She's the one. Absolutely. But first she tells Alex, who is of no help, essentially. Yeah. She's basically like, would you lead him on or something? Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, well, you probably misunderstood, like he's not like that, because he idolizes this guy. Probably. Yeah, and she really should have confided in Skippy. He left Family Ties briefly to star in a horror movie called Trick-or-Treat that is about a haunted record. It's a satanic metal band, like her metal band, and he gets possessed by listening to this record. That sounds like something I would like. She should check it out. I love your metal. Oh, you'd really like this. Aussie Osborne plays a priest in it. Oh. Skippy Family Ties is the main character. Yeah. Trick-or-Treat, it's called. Have you ever seen Mother Goose's rock and rhyme? Yes. Okay. You see... Shelly Duvall's Mother Goose is about to rock and rhyme. He's probably remedied. Like, yep. I know it. Yeah. Absolutely. Usually when I bring it up, people get excited. But... It was pretty good. It was pretty good. I really like Shelly Duvall's fairytale theater. Oh, I had seen that. Very good. It was on Showtime in the early 80s and it was also released in a series of videos and they would reenact sort of famous fairytales but with popular stars of the day. Oh, so just like... Yeah. Yeah. Very much like rock and rhyme. Yeah. So if you liked rock and rhyme, you should check out fairytale theater. That's awesome. I will. I loved Mother Goose's rock and rhyme and that had a ton of stars in it. I mean stars, but... Yeah. People you recognize, there was this song on that that was like, "Gorden won't you come out and play?" Yeah, that's very weird. One of the most... I mean, I've been to... The Three Blind Mice. Yeah. I've been to it. You know, I went to Ozfest and rock and rhyme is still one of the most metal things I have ever seen in my life. Maybe metal bands should put out a rock and rhyme tribute album where they each do a song from rock and rhyme. Yeah. That'd be sick. That would at least sell one copy. Sure. By you. You would purchase that copy. Well, you know. Yeah. I'd buy one for you. So two copies of rock and rhyme heavy metal would come out. Yeah, that was about '94 at '93, I want to say. I think it was a Disney Channel production. Yeah. Yeah. Another piece is rock and rhyme. Yeah. Good stuff. So on to 830, what do you got? Okay. You're not going to be happy with me. I have nothing else for Sunday. Nothing for Sunday? Nothing else. Just because you hadn't heard of anything or you didn't want to watch any of these things. Okay. What do you got? So at 830, you had two real choices. You could have watched married with children. Oh, I didn't see that. That's right. I mean, married with children. Oh. Let's just... Oh, so you got to go with married with children. Okay. Absolutely. I... Or the spin-off show from Family Ties, Day by Day, which had Julia Louis Dreyfus in it and Courtney Thorne Smith. Okay. And Thora Birch. It was her first role. She was about four years old, and it was about people that were in a daycare center, and they were old college friends of Elise. Oh. Well, I remember forgetting his first name, Mr. Keaton. Yeah. I can't believe I forgot his first name on the show, Elise. Do you remember what his name is? I'm blanking tonight. Yeah. It's been a long week. Yeah. But anyway, that was a back-to-a-pilot. They introduced these two people as college buddies of theirs that run a daycare center now, and then they're like, "And here's our show about our daycare center." And so not a great show. Okay. But... But... I can totally get on board with married with children. This episode was a repeat from last season. It's Steve and Marcy who plan to add a room onto their house, but Peggy and Al plan what kind of room they'd like it to be. Sort of a boring episode of "Mara Children," I will say, but we were a fan of "Mara Children." Was everybody more a fan of Marcy Darcy than, like, the Steve years? I liked Steve. He's actually... He's actually... I just love so much. Well, he's considered sitcom poison, Ted McGinley. Yeah. I used to look at JumpTheShark.com. Yes. Ted McGinley came up very often. No, no, no. That's where I learned that. I always liked him from "Avenge of the Nerds," so it's a big fan of Ted McGinley's work in that. Okay. I haven't seen that. You've never seen "Revenge of the Nerds"? Fun fact. I don't watch movies. Oh, my God. I'm... I'm dead serious. I watch television like a fiend, but... You got a Netflix "Revenge of the Nerds" and just pretend like it's three episodes of a TV show. I'll try. It's great. I just get attached and I don't want to let characters go. Oh, they're fun characters. I actually tried to make a TV series of "Revenge of the Nerds" and it was one of the worst pilots I've ever seen in my life, but Ted McGinley played the alpha-beta, frat boy dickhead in that. He's super handsome. Yeah. Well, he was a model. He's kind of like a Sean Williams scot type. Oh, he's better looking than Sean Williams scot. Yeah, but that like douchey hat. He was showing him scot kind of has like a weird wonky face. Oh, really? He's got like kind of... His eyes are a little squinty. I'm into it. You like that? Oh, yeah. That's serious. He's got more all-American look going on. Yeah. He looks more successful. He looks quarterback. Yeah. He's got the quarterback look going. Definitely. He was on a happy day. I mean, he was on everything. Love both. He ruined everything. But I liked the guy who played Steve, David Garrison, because he was on a show with Jason Bateman called "It's Your Move" that I enjoyed very much a couple years before. It's your move. It's your move. Jason Bateman played jerk as he generally does, but a teenager who's like 14 and he lives in an apartment building with his mom and his sister and the guy who lived across the hallway was David Garrison and his mom was sort of dating this guy and him and Jason Bateman were at sort of war with each other. That's why it was called "It's Your Move." Right on. So I knew him from that, but I don't know. I probably prefer him to Jefferson. Wow. But I think most people are on the Jefferson camp. That could easily be because when I was watching the Steve years, I was younger and probably got much. I mean, I probably never got 100% of the jokes, but I got fewer. That probably makes you a better person, not getting 100% of the jokes from married with children as a child. I think that means you had a childhood. You know what's weird? I was never censored as a child. Like nobody ever said this is too adult for you. Yeah. The one time it happened, my mom was like, "Maybe you shouldn't watch married with children." It was marriage with children. And I was like, "Well, just watch an episode and then tell me." And she watched and she's like, "I guess it's fine." But it was kind of a sleazy show. It was extremely controversial. At the time, there was a huge... Oh, absolutely. No cry about how filthy this show was. Isn't that where they got the expression? If you don't like it, turn it off. Well, there was probably before that, but I think it was applied. I don't even think that's an expression. There wasn't... It is now. It is now. There was an episode that was actually banned. They shot it, and then it got, they protested. So it was Marcy and Steve and Alan Peggy went away on vacation. Oh, what's the number of videotapes? It was a sex tape episode. Yeah. And they never aired it. It couldn't prove that they had actually had sex because he did it so quickly. Correct. Yes. So it never aired in the US. It aired in Europe, and it was on the DVD set as a lost episode. Did you see it? I have seen it. It's not that sleazy. It's no sleazier than most of what else was going on at Fox at the time. I think the hugest problem that people had with it was that it was so misogynistic. The show was pretty hateful. Generally, it was a fairly hateful show. And I'm torn because, yes, I do consider myself a feminist, and they weren't very kind to women on that show. They were either sex objects or fat and getting made fun of. To be fair, the show wasn't very kind to anyone. Okay. That's very fair. But then, as a comedian, I have to say, those are two of my favorite female characters. Yeah. There's no sacred cows. You kind of can take anything down. I mean, Alan Peggy, that dynamic, like she was with him, like, punch for punch. She stayed totally... She's the more likable character there. Absolutely. And she's feisty. Yeah. She... I know that when they were casting, you probably know this, when they were casting her role, they were thinking, like, a Roseanne Bar type. Right. I think they wanted Roseanne Bar and Sam Kinison. That's the kind of... You would not want to watch that show. Isn't that weird? Yeah. Thinking back, it's like, you cannot replace these two. That seems like a very unpleasant show. Yeah. Loud. Yeah. Yeah. So when... What's her name? Peggy? The actress. Katie Siegel. Thank you. When Katie Siegel walked into the audition, she was, like, vamped up. She had to look at her hair done. Oh, she's a sex plot, Katie Siegel, yeah. Totally. And they're like, "Oh, my God. This woman has no idea she's white trash." And they love that about her, and of course she got the part. Yeah. She used to date some of the Almond Brothers. She's hot. Yeah. And she's got a... She's in bands. Great voice. Yeah. She was a singer in rock bands for a long time. Yeah. She's cool, and she's on Futurama. Exactly. And of course, Christina Applegate is one of my fashion icons. I have two fashion icons, Fran Drescher on the nanny, and Christina Applegate on Married with Children. I... If... Have you seen Don't Tell Mom the babysitter's dead? Have I? Okay. So you made an exception to your... I don't watch movies rule by watching Don't Tell Mom the babysitter's dead. She's got some sick outfits in that. She does. Well, she is a fashionista in that movie, so that's probably the most fashionable I think that she ever got. I'm on top of it, Rose. Yes. Right on top of it, Rose. Yeah. I love that movie. I love her, and like, when I go to the mall, when I go shopping, if I pick something off the rack and I look at it, and I'm like, Christina Applegate would wear this? So you do the Christina Applegate test. That's the litmus test. That's the litmus test. It's applegated. Oh, yes. And I'm sure, you know, if any listeners have seen me at any Christmas parties or anywhere I've dressed up. They're like, of course. Christina Applegate. That's it. Perfect. That's where she dresses like. So you didn't have anything at nine o'clock, which is just sad. What do we look? 'Cause now I guess I missed it. So if I was going to go with a sitcom, I would have gone with its Gary Shannling Show, which was a really great innovative show. Gary Shannling obviously starred in it, and it was basically there was no fourth wall. He came out, talked to the audience. He would acknowledge that he was in a sitcom, acknowledge that there were actors. It was a very cool show. It was probably my favorite thing that he's done, and I'm not a huge Gary Shannling fan. We should check out the Gary Shannling Show. On this particular episode, Gary feels romance in the air during an evening renewal. His acquaintance with an old flame, Ed Ames, provides atmosphere. It doesn't really tell you too much about it, but it was a good show. So at this time, a movie was on called Turk 182, which does star Darren McGavin, who I like quite a bit. And Robert Uruk, who was Spencer, unspenser for hire. It's not the best movie. It was directed by the guy who directed Christmas Story and Black Sunday, which a little known movie by him, so he could have gone with that as well. But I think that Gary Shannling Show would have been the move there. And then at 9.30, I probably would have gone with the Week in Rock on MTV, as I was a big fan of that. What's that? The Week in Rock was an MTV news report. So MTV used to have a new show on every day called The Day in Rock, and it was like a roundup of rock stories. And then on the weekends, they had The Week in Rock. That was like the best of that week. It was usually hosted by Kurt Loder or Tabitha Soren. That was on 9.30 on MTV on Sunday nights. But also, the show Duet was on Fox, which I probably would have watched, which was sort of like a romantic comedy show that wasn't great, but I watched it every week for no reason. I probably would have watched Week in Rock. Week in Rock was good. Because there was appointment television. The only reason I may not have watched Week in Rock is because MTV, at that time, had about four shows that they aired 700 times every weekend. So none of them were teen mom. None of them were teen mom, thankfully, which I've never seen, and I never hope to see. Oh, you'd love it. Hey, there's... It's a lot like family times. I don't know about that. Although I imagine there might be gentlemen who look like Nick on it. Well, they're both on TV, so... True. That is a lot in common that they have them. All right, on to Monday night, the saddest night of the week. You've gone back to school, you've gone back to work, and you need something to take you away from the hell. What do you go with at eight o'clock? What, here's your case of the Mondays. At eight o'clock, I put Kate and Alie. Perfect. It's a really good episode. CBS Monday nights was where I was at from most of the eighties. It was just two hours of power. You start with Kate and Alie. Now, Alfe was on as well, so you're not an Alfe person. I've never seen Al. You've never seen Al. Isn't that crazy? Yeah, you know, I could see Alfe would bypass you if you were born in '88. I knew this was going to come out. Alfe was pretty much gone in the '90s. He had two cartoon series, which he probably missed out on. I'm sure he had cereal and cartoons and t-shirts and all that stuff. Alfe was a phenomenon. What was the big Alfe-like phenomenon you can remember from mere youth? What do you think the Alfe equivalent would have been? Pokemon, Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. Do the Simpsons count? No, the Simpsons would not count. The Simpsons would be too critically acclaimed to count. Oh, so something really dopey that's so amazing. It was just a huge for California raisins. Spice Girls? Yeah, maybe the Spice Girls was the equivalent to Al. Kind of cheesy, but everywhere. Yeah. I saw Spice World in the theater. Me too. I was very excited about that. You had an excuse, though. You were probably, what, seven years old and a girl? Yeah. I was like 17 years old, and I saw it and found myself, so that's-- Oh my God, was that you? That was me. Yeah. That was me. This episode is-- this is a weird one. In an episode set in the future, an adult chip returns with his son to his boyhood home, now being demolished. Their chipper calls the time he failed science. Really weird show. Flash forward episode, which Cait and Ali would do sometimes, but a very funny, very strange episode. As I said, I definitely think that would have been the move. You should have gone with Cait and Ali overall. At 8.30, this is a tough call. If this had been a year earlier, I know it would have gone with, what do you got? I put designing women. Perfect. Designing women. As I said, CVS, you have the Cait and Ali designing women, and then we'll get to New Heart. It's like the best test ever. It's a great night. It's a great year ace in this one. Now, normally, I would have watched Valerie, which was on NBC at the time, opposite designing women. Who was on Valerie? Valerie was Valerie Harper, Jason Bateman, and they killed Valerie off after the first season. It was called Valerie. It was called Valerie. She wanted more money. Rhoda. Rhoda. She was also a second city, she was one of the original Second City people. Get out. With Alan Arkin, I think she was in Second City with, but she was in Valerie. She wanted more money. They killed her character. They killed her in a place there with Sandy Duncan and changed the show's name to Valerie's family and then the Hogan family. Oh, I know the Hogan family. Yeah, same show. Same show. I went at the beginning, at the end of the spring, went away, love and Valerie. Over the summer, they fire her first episode of the fall, whereas Valerie, two minutes in the episode, she's not there. And then Jason Bateman mentions that she died in a car crash. Oof. Devastate. Devastate. When I worked at a local TV station, I met her. She came in to promote something. She was very nice. I had to, basically, I did a sister all day talking to her about this movie, "Free Being The Bean," about Mary Tyler Moore. She was super nice. And then by the end of the day, I started bringing up Valerie and I realized that I'm welling up now because it was so upsetting and she just hugs me. Oh my gosh. And it was the most embarrassing thing that's ever happened to me in my entire life. Worse than seeing Spice Girls and theaters? Yes, far worse. Far worse. Were you a little alone when you saw Spice Girls? Yeah, I was. Yeah. That would have been, I think that's less embarrassing than if I was on a date or something. That probably would have been worse. No one to witness, yeah? Yeah. Even on, like, a Tuesday morning, I think I was, I literally think I was the only one in the theater. I love Valerie Harper. That's a really good story. She's very funny. She was super nice. And the first season of that show was great. And then once Sandy Duncan came in, it got awful. Aww. So this was in the Sandy Duncan era, definitely designing women. I'm a huge Delta Berk fan. Valerie Harper was on the episode of Hot and Gloopland that I saw live. Oh, nice. You saw her in person as well. Yeah, exactly. Yes. Small world. Yeah. So it was Mary Tyler Moore Show Reunion show. Right, okay. So it was all of them. It was Mary Tyler Moore and Chloris Leitman and Georgia Engel and Valerie Harper. Yeah. Just the women from Mary Tyler Moore? Yeah. Yeah. I think all the, no, I had Asner's alive. Yeah. But every, all the other guys are dead. I think so. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. It's all the women and they were phenomenal. I mean, that's like, that's gold to a young woman pursuing comedy. To see all them in one room at live is pretty cool. It's very emotional. It was very sensitive. How did you cry? Tears streaming. Understandable. See, that's more justifiable than the, than my tears when I was recounting her character's death. I don't think so. It's emotional. I don't know. I don't know. It pulls out your heartstrings. I was alone in a Betty white t-shirt crying. 25 years old crying. See, that seems fine to me. Okay. That seems less embarrassing than alone seeing spice world at 10 a.m. on a Tuesday. But you weren't crying. Well, I didn't, you didn't ask me that. I didn't. Yeah. So designing women that night, a redecorating job on a cruise ship finds Mary Joan Suzanne wagering on who will show up with the most eligible man at the captain's dinner. Pretty good episode. I don't normally like things set on boats, but it's a pretty good episode. I'm a big Delta Burke fan. I do have her autobiography up here on my wall of celebrity autobiographies. That's great. It is very good. Oh, we can talk about celebrity, but autobiographies. Yes, I have many. Mine are all like rockers and. Do you like the hair metal? Yeah. I'm reading Bobby Brown's right now. You know, Jerry pie? Yes. Yes. Yes. Not, not the Boston Bobby Brown. Not the makeup artist Bobby Brown. Not the Whitney Houston. Not the Whitney Houston Bobby Brown. Is that the same Boston? That's the Boston Bobby Brown. Yes. Yes. The cherry pie Bobby Brown's boy. I have to imagine not an interesting book. There's parts that I'm laughing out loud at her or with her. With. Okay. Yeah. Okay. It's interesting. So if you're interested, actually Natalie bought it for me for my birthday. Oh, nice. Nice. A friend, a mutual friend that we have purchased that book. Yeah. Nine o'clock. I think there's only one move here. Let's see if you made it. What'd you get? I didn't put anything. Nothing. But Newhart's right here. I know. I never, I don't even know what Newhart is. What? Yeah. Do you know who Newhart is? No. You don't know Bob Newhart? Oh, well, the name sounds familiar. Okay. Bob Newhart. And from the Bob Newhart show produced by MTM Productions, which was Mary Tyler Moore's production company, was very famous in the 70s. And he had a show in the 80s called Newhart where he played a guy named Dick Hartley, who I'm sorry, Dick Loudon. He was Dr. Hartley on Bob Newhart Show. Dick Loudon owns New York guy. He's a writer. He writes how-to books and he buys a bed and breakfast in Vermont. Great show. Newhart is amazing. Maybe my favorite sitcom in the 80s. Wow. No kidding. Newhart is really, really good. Next episode's excellent. It has Julia Duffy was also in a deal like Julia Duffy. She was on Designing Women in the last, second to last season. She's very funny. I have a confession to make. I have only seen one episode of Designing Women. Wow. Wow. Because I felt like it was a betrayal. No. It's a really good show. You felt like Designing Women was a betrayal? To Golden Girls. No. It has nothing to do with Golden Girls. When they kind of had competition, I mean- No. -- shows about women for women. No. Are you sure? They were different nights. They were very, very different shows. Designing Women and Golden Girls couldn't be a little less alike. Should I be watching Golden Girls right now? You can watch more shows about women than just one. You don't have to. You don't have to choose. You can have them all. It makes me cry. No, no. Designing Women, you're missing out. Okay. You're missing out. I have seen one episode because a particular episode was recommended by my friend, Ken Reed. Okay. And it was where one of their friends has AIDS. Oh, you watched the AIDS episode. I did. I was sick and in bed and just like, I just feel like watching special episodes today. About AIDS. Yeah. And I recommended that you watch the AIDS episode today. You did. And it was great. It's a fairly respectful handling of AIDS. I thought it was before its time. Yeah. I thought it was mature and I thought it was sensitive and I really liked it a lot. It's a really good episode. That's pretty representative of how good that show was. Good. It was very smart while written, showing how amazing ensemble cast because if you look at the Mr. Belvedere AIDS episode from the year before and compare the two, it's night and day. Yeah. Also, I have a lot of respect for DeltaBark. I think she's. She's really funny. Yeah. She's like a hotter Katy Perry. Oh. When she was younger, she looked like a Katy Perry who doesn't have a goofy face. She also looked like Zoe Deschanel, a Katy Perry and Zoe Deschanel. Exactly. DeltaBark. Yeah. I think she's awesome. And like, you know, she struggled with her weight, which, you know, is something I plan on doing in the future. Excellent. That's what we all do. And I just think she's like super classy and cute. You should read a book. She's very good. She's great. You have to watch this anyway with DeltaBark. Okay. She's very, very funny. I'll watch more, I promise. But back to the issue of you never having heard of New Heart. No, let's talk more about books. This particular episode also had a guest appearance by one of my favorite people, Julie Brown. I don't know if you know. Downtown Julie Brown. Not Downtown Julie Brown, a regular Julie Brown who hosted a show on MTV called Just Say Julie. She wrote and starred in the movie Earth Girls Are Easy. There were two Julie Browns. There were two Julie Browns. They were two Julie Browns. I think what that happened. This Julie Brown started as a sort of stand up comedian that used to do songs like The Homecoming Queen's Got a Gun. She put out a great album called Trapped in the Body of a White Girl that's very funny. Oh, man. You should check out Julie Brown. Sure. She's very good. She still does stuff with the groundlings. She's great. So she's in this episode. She doesn't have a small guitar, are you glailing? No. No. She was, you know, did you ever see Clueless? Yeah. She was the coach, the red-headed coach. Awesome. That's Julie Brown. She's in the movie and the TV show. I love the movie Clueless. Yes, that's Julie Brown. Okay, sorry. Spice World, Clueless. So 96, 97. Kill the babysitter. Yeah. Yeah. Kill the babysitter. Kill the babysitter. It's a different, I think you'd think in the movie Halloween. Oh, okay. Also known as Kill the Babysitter. Never seen Hell in the movie. So New Heart, this is a great episode. Buffy Denver played by Julie Brown. Dicks, effervents, effervescent former co-host discovers that she and Stephanie bubble in sync. So it won't make any sense to you if you've never seen the show, but it's a great show. The New Heart, Designing Women, Kate and Allie, 90 Minutes was just pure gold. Great. I'm sad that you've never seen these, but also somewhat excited to be the person who tells you about them, 'cause they're great shows. Now, 930, this was always a tough spot because CBS... I was still on Monday. It was still on Monday. We're only on Monday. Sorry. I get lost. I'm gonna start making check marks. We're only on Monday. 930 is a tough spot on CBS. We really found a show that worked in this slot until Murphy Brown. They showed a show called... Yeah, which was great. But this year in '88, they had a show short-lived called Eisenhower and Lutz. Let's start Scott Bakula, who you might know from Quantum Leap, and Patricia Richardson, who was the mother on Home Improvement. Great. And this show was two bombshells, one brunette and one blonde, vie for Bud's company on the same evening and when Bud, played by Scott Bakula, sets up the brunette with an old army buddy. They're playing on there, hitting it off quite so well. Not a great show. Didn't miss out on anything there. I would not recommend watching it. The only move I think at this time would have been to watch re-run of the Donna Reed show on Nick at Night. That really would have been the only thing to watch at 930 on Monday. I did love Murphy Brown. Murphy Brown was great. I saw that. I saw that. So you at least saw that. Yeah. I wrote a paper in college about why they don't discuss abortion on sitcoms in the '80s. Was it just like it makes people uncomfortable? End of argument. 20 pages long. Okay. And Murphy Brown was a huge enormous chunk of it because she had that unbelievable episode. I think it was maybe a season, two part episode. Yeah. I don't know. It was like a chunk of it. And there was a big plot of Roseanne about abortion as well. Yes. I included that in mine as well because of her grandmother getting an abortion issue. Yes. Yes. And yeah, Murphy Brown was like the best. She was really... That was a good show. She paved the way in a lot of ways. And she had it out with Dan Quayle. Yes. Yes. He referred to her as though she was a real person. Dan Quayle was not a very smart man. He was the vice president of the United States somehow in the dark times. You're lucky you were very young at that time. Yeah. You did not. I was concerned with other things. So at eight o'clock Tuesday night, this one was a tough one. There's some good movies on it this time. What'd you go with? Who's the boss? Okay. The boss was a show that I watched every week. I hate Tony Dansa. I really like to listen to Milano. I did. I can't say I liked the show, but I watched it. You did a trash on the list there. Everybody did. We all did. Some of us still might. But I would have gone with a movie this night. And so one movie that was on, they showed the Dark Crystal. And also Critters was on at this time, which are both great movies. I think I would have gone, or Creepshow 2 was also on. So we got two horror movies and a terrifying children's movie. I'm going to go with those instead of who's the boss. But I respect the fact that you've chosen who's the boss. Thanks. It was a weird, there was a weird sub-genre of television shows that were all came out at the same time that people referred to as many sitcoms. So we had Charles in charge, who's the boss, Mr. Belvedere, sort of all came out the same year. I don't know what was in the water at that time. I liked Charles in charge too. Charles in charge was all right. Did you prefer the powers or the pembrokes? I don't even know what that question means. So I envy you not knowing what that question means. So Charles in charge the first season, he was the mani for a family called the pembrokes. And it was on CBS, I believe. It got canceled after one season. They waited a year and then brought it back in syndication with a different family, the Powell's, which was Nicole Eggert. Yeah. She was on Celebrity Fit Club too. Yes, she was. And she was on Baywatch. And I think she was on Splash last season too, where there was just the celebrities diving. With Kendra Wilkinson. At 8.30 there's only two things on, I assume you went with Perfect Strangers. I did go with Perfect Strangers. Yeah. Your only other choice is Mr. Ed. So I'm guessing you would have got him with Perfect Strangers. I put a, I put down Mr. Ed. He got an honorable mention, but this is a classic episode of Perfect Strangers. This is the bibby bobcat episode. I don't know if you're familiar with the bibby bobcat episode, but in it, I'll read this synopsis, but I could do it from memory, Balke introduces Larry to a me, me, poppy and me, bossy. And I don't know how you'd exactly say it, dessert called a bibby bobcat. And they decide to try and make these to make money. And it features the bibby bobcat dance. Wow. Yeah. It's a very. That's huge. Larry has no trouble finding a market for Balke's delicious moposi and dessert, but mass producing it is a different story. And weirdly, they never mentioned it's called bibby bobcats. I think if they did in the synopsis, they would have got a lot better ratings, but that's just me. Maybe they didn't want to give it away. They probably did. The TV guide for you, huh? Yeah. I mean, they don't. They just want to tell you just enough. Just enough. They don't care what you do with your life. No. I liked Perfect Strangers growing up. I used to watch it and maybe not get all the jokes, but. Yeah. Or they might just not have Ben jokes. Okay. Sometimes that show, not great. And then Bronson helped me out. Bronson Pinchot. Yes. Yes. He was on the surreal life. Yes. A great season. I remember Peppa was on it. And I believe Janice Dickinson. Yes. That was not my favorite season of the surreal life. I think my favorite season was. Oh, I'm so excited to hear what your favorite season was. Jordan Knight. Oh, wow. Dave Coolier. Dave Coolier. Oh, Dave Coolier. Brigitte Nielsen. Flavor Flav. That was. Ryan Star. Ryan Star. I'm American Idol. Right. That was a good one. Okay. My favorite. That was season three. Mine was season two, which is actually really surprising because C.C. Deville from Poison was on it. Yes. Who wrote the song I hate every bone in your body but mine. But mine. And he also wrote Talk Dirty to Me. True. He was on season five, I think. And Vince Neil from Motley Clearoo was on season one. Okay. Also a really great season. But season two had Ron Jeremy and Tammy Baker. Is that anything? Tammy's a Baker. Did she rest in peace? Yeah. Oh my God. Her relationship with Ron Jeremy was hilarious. Yeah. That's a very different pair of people. That. Although they look somewhat similar. Right. But they had such a friendship. Yeah. Well, they're roughly in the same age group and body shape. Yeah. And Vanilla Ice was on it and he was so better. Rob Van Winkle. Yeah. What a prick that guy is. Have you? Have you? Have you? You're talking like you met. I don't need to meet him. No. What a piece of shit. Wow. That guy. Have you seen his home improvement show that he has? No. He did. He like flips houses. Okay. Florida. It's the worst. It's the worst. What's his name? Sebastian Bach ever on their surreal life? No. But he was on Gilmore Girls. I'm thinking of a super group. Oh, super group. Yeah. Yes. That's Sebastian Bach. With the dude from Anthrax and John Bonham's son. Oh, weird. I'm thinking of two different shows right now. Evan Seinfeld. Because there's one that's like man group that's like some guy from InSync. Oh, oh, it's like a boy band, but it's like a man band. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. No, this was like a heavy metal super group. Yeah. I remember Sebastian Bach on that being a psycho. Yeah. Flipping out for no reason. Well, he's a weird dude in that he wasn't the first singer for Skid Row. And he was signed by the label when he was like 17. He's really pretty. But he was really young. Yeah. And they were trying to just find a group for him. And so they kind of stuck him in Skid Row who were like an established band already. And he basically never had a real job. Yeah, which they used to do that a lot. And he's basically been a rock star since he was 17 years old. And he has a son that's like 18. That makes sense. Because he had him when he was like 17 years old. Yeah. There's an episode of super group where they're watching his episode of Gilmore Girls. Ah, nice. And he's like, shush, shush, shush, shush, shush, shush, like the other guys are like, we don't want to watch Gilmore Girls. Yeah, his brain never really moved on from being 17 years old. I know that. I guess not. He's in Bobby Brown's book too. Of course he is. I bet a lot of people are in that. Briefly. Yes. Yes. So we moved to 9 o'clock on Tuesday night. What do you got? Uh, right. I have nothing. Nothing. Nothing. You should have gone with moonlighting. I don't know what that is. Oh, dear God, dear God, moonlighting is what made Bruce Willis famous. Okay. Do you know Bruce Willis? Yes. Okay. This was civil shepherd. He was on friends. Do you know civil shepherd? Yeah. She wrote a great book called Civil Disobedience, which if you like entertainment and autobiographies, you should definitely read that. She did it Elvis. There's some great stuff in that book. Oh. And she is nuts. Did you watch Civil? I watched episodes of Civil. Civil was great. I never watched like the whole. I had a huge thing for Alicia Wett, who was the daughter on Civil for Mass Juice. She was also in Dune. She was in the movie Dune. She was on Twin Peaks. She was an urban legend. I think she dates Ben Folds. They've done some music together. She puts out albums now. Is brick about her? I don't think brick is about her back to abortion talk or Christmas songs. It could be considered a very bad Christmas song. But moonlighting was a great show. So it was Bruce Willis and Civil Shepherd. They ran a private detective agency. It was very innovative, very funny. One of the best written shows of the 80s. Cool. Cannot recommend moonlighting enough. Great episode. And this particular episode also has a guest appearance by Mark Harmon. Who's great? Was voted People Magazine, Sexist, Mental Lab 1987. Wow. He's on CSI now. Oh no. NCIS. Oh no. He's cut gray hair. He's a little old. I'm a law and orderist for you. Okay. Fair enough. Fair enough. Fair enough. So 930 I'm assuming you had nothing. Nothing. You probably should have gone with Donna Reed. But if you went with moonlighting, it would have been the whole hour. It would have been fine. On to Wednesday. I didn't know. Is omitting an option? Not really. So I shouldn't. You probably should have just picked something. But it sounds like, you know, you just couldn't. No. Sometimes it's cool. Like if I didn't know the answer, I just put nothing. And they're like, you should guess. Just put anything. Yeah. Always guess. Always guess. When in doubt guess. Yeah. Eight o'clock Wednesday. What'd you go with? Also, I feel like next time we do this, if there is a next time I'd like it, we should have a penny jar. And every time we mention like a VH1 show for reality show, we have to put some money in the jar. Yeah. I think so much money. We really would. VH1 has come up quite a bit here. So it's a big club. So real life. Okay. So Wednesday night, 8 p.m. I put down growing pains. Yes. I think that's the right move here. Even my favorite seasons of growing pains are season three and four. So like 87 to 89. This is when just the 10 of us spun off from growing pains. This particular episode is a really weird surreal one as well. In the hospital for a tonsillectomy, Ben dreams of an escape with a friendly cabbie played by Alan Hale, who was the skipper on Gilligan's Island. Only to find he's been replaced at home by a new Ben, played by Danny Cooksy, who was Bud Nick on Salute Your Shorts. Got it. He's also an Terminator 2 and on different strokes. And so it was a very weird show. They basically, very fourth wall breaking. They tell him that they are. It's a TV show because he's having a hallucinogenic nightmare while he's having his tonsils out. That kind of sounds like an episode that would be on Blossom. Yeah, it does sound blossomish. There was a lot of tonsillectomies in episodes of sitcoms, "Punky Brewster" at an infamous one. That happened. I didn't know one person who had their tonsils out. Not a single person growing up. Interesting. I feel like if I ever did, I'd be like, "You can eat all the ice cream you want." That's what they went with, mostly on that. Yeah. And I can eat all the ice cream I want now and still have all my body. True. Is that a shitty thing to say because you can't eat ice cream or is that genuine? I couldn't... No, no. I don't think they're being sarcastic. I don't think if a doctor removed their tonsils were like, "Yeah, you can eat all the ice cream you want. I'm just kidding. Ah, you can't." I never knew if that was... Yeah, I think it's because you're in pain so you want to have something smooth and cold. I thought it was, "You can eat all the ice cream that you can, but the trick is, it's none." That would be very cruel. That's a very glass half empty way to look at a tonsillectomy. What happened in my life to make me think about something that I can do? Yeah. That medical doctors would be like, "If you've gotten a car accident, you're in a wheelchair, they're like, 'You can walk all the miles you want, which is none.'" Yeah, that would be very, very cruel. You can wear all the shoes you want, which are none because you've got no feet left. That would be bad medicine. You've got no feet left. Yes. The Bon Jovi song, bad medicine. So 8.30, I'm going to guess that you picked nothing. No. You went with head of the class. No, I didn't. You went with Mr. Ed. I didn't get with Mr. Ed. Okay. So do you know head of the class at all? Is head of the class something I'm getting confused with Mr. Carter. Hang on with Mr. Cooper. No. Mr. Carter. It was with John Travolta and Horschach. Oh, yes. That's welcome back. Yes, welcome back. I think some folks in my family had boss in accents growing up, so I would translate it to, I would put ours in words that didn't need them, because so often you're just taking it out of words. You over-ard the pudding. Yeah. Yes. Like, souvenir, instead of souvenir. Okay. Like, I would put too many ours in words. That's if you've gotten over that? Obviously not. Okay. Hopefully it's endearing. It may be. It may be, but if people can understand you. Well, you got it. Just a really weird speech impediment that it's all these extra ours in there. It's very strange. I hated welcome back Carter so much. Yes. I hated that show. I still have tried to rewatch it because people love it and everyone has these fond memories of it. I cannot stomach it. Then you don't watch it, Ken. I don't have to. You don't have to. I'm an adult and I don't have to watch it if I don't have to. You don't have to like it. But head of the class was a different job, took place in New York City, much like welcome back Carter. It was about a class for gifted students called the IHP and they was a history class and they got to kind of do whatever they wanted in the class. And it was, their teacher was Howard Hesman, who was on WKRP in Cincinnati. Do you ever see that? No. He was like the cool teacher. Mr. what Robin Givens was in it. It was married to Mike Tyson for a while. Oh, I liked her. Wait, she was on something else that I liked. Did she have her own talk show? Robin Givens, she may have, there was a short period in the mid to late 90s where everybody had a talk show. I think she did. She may have had one. I wouldn't be surprised. Tempest Bledso had one. Did she? Who played the Cosby daughter, whose name I can't remember for some reason. Yeah. And also this show is where we had Dennis, who was played by the man who produced it. Wait, was it Cassandra? Cassandra. No. No, Cassandra is the oldest daughter. Sandra. Sandra is the oldest daughter. Is that what we're trying to think of? No, it's Sandra. And then there's Lisa Bonet and there's Rudy. Oh, I totally. Okay. I was picturing the oldest one. Yeah. Not the oldest one. Who has the same name as Shyla Booth. Her name's like Shannon the Booth. It's very, very similar to Shyla Booth's name. Even Steve? Yes. But the guy who played Dennis Blondin on the head of the class is now the architect of every show on Nickelodeon. Oh. Dan Schneider. He produces pretty much every single suit we have. He created iCarly. He created everything I'm into. Bines ever done. He created all that. He's sort of every single sitcom on Nickelodeon. Whoa. Super ever and ever, huh? Yes. Yeah. He's very well off at this point. Wow. But that was a fun show. Good for him. I would recommend that show. Nine o'clock, what'd you go with? I don't have anything else. Days and nights of Molly Dodd was on, which was a really good show. It was like a dramedy. It was canceled after one season, but then picked up by Lifetime. You also could have gone with Hooperman, which is probably what I would have gone with. It's our John Ritter from Three's Company. I love John Ritter. He was a news reporter, and it took place in San Francisco, was him and a dog. It was very, very good show. Hooperman. Good stuff. Right on. 930. Did you pick nothing? I picked nothing. You had two choices here. You had the Slap Maxwell story. And no, I do. This was Dabney Coleman's Second Failed sitcom, which for some reasons come up, I think, on every single podcast. Or Sarah, which was a very short-lived show that starred Gina Davis and Bronson Pinchot and Bill Maher. And it was produced by Gary David Goldberg, who did Family Ties. Wow. It's Gina Davis, who plays Sarah McKenna, a lawyer, living the Single Life in San Francisco in the series from 1985. I don't know why they reared this episode in 1988, but it only lasted about eight episodes. It wasn't great. Gina Davis was also on Family Ties for a few episodes as well. She's in Earth Girls or Easy with the regular Julie Brown. Wow. There you go. It's a good movie. I have seen a League of their own, and I do love that movie. Okay. That is a good movie. Gina Davis is a good one. So we're up to four movies. Gina Davis from Massachusetts. She's from Cape Cod. Oh my goodness. She was an Olympic archer. She's also, I think, almost six feet tall. Wow. Yep. She's formed them all. She's cool. Thursday night, eight o'clock. What do you got? Cosby Show. It's the right movie, Vanessa. That's the name. That's the name that I'm talking about. It's going to go. It's right there. It's not. It's not. But I looked at Cosby Show and I remembered it was Vanessa in this episode, Cliff is sure that Claire's entry in a squash growing contest can't lose. That's what the episode is about, a squash growing contest. I'm sure it's very entertaining. Now, normally I would have watched Cosby, but again, we're into the summer months here. We're on June 2nd, 1988. There was a repeat, so I would have watched Summer Rental with John Candy at seven o'clock, at eight o'clock. Great movie. I'm assuming you've never seen it. No. Is that the one about his, he has to babysit some kids at Christmas? Summer Rental? Okay. So maybe no? No, you're thinking of Uncle Buck. Yeah. Yeah. Which was the TV series as well, starring Kevin Meany. Boston comedian, Kevin Meany. He played the John Candy role, but no. Summer Rental is him and his family go to Myrtle Beach for the summer. He's an air traffic controller. He stressed out, so they send him on vacation. It's a great movie. I saw that, but he came out in 1985. Carl Reiner directed it. Oh, I love Carl Reiner. He also directed Mark Harmon movie. I love most of the Reiner. Yeah, most of the Reiner's are good. But in Summer Rental, there's a scene, and I've told this on stage before, but I saw it in Narragansett. I used to spend my summers in Narragansett's around with my family, and I went to go see Summer Rental, and there's a scene where their neighbor got a boob job, and she's showing everybody, and then she's like, "Oh, look at them." And then they shoot it from the back, so you don't see anything. But in the theater, on that scene, it's PG-13 movie. My aunt Helen covered my eyes and yelled, "No fucking way!" My full volume while I was five years old, which was clearly less damaging than if I had seen a woman's back in a movie. But Summer Rental's good. She wanted to visually protect you well, audibly. I don't want to see that. Yes. Yes. Swearing, fine. Implied breasts. Forget it. I know. Yes. Eight-thirty. Mr. Ed again? No, I have nothing. Nothing. You didn't go a different world. The Cosby spin-off series. No. You never watched it. Never seen it. But I've heard of it. Different world was great. It was the spin-off of Cosby. It was Lisa Bonet. I went away to college. The fictional Hellman college was a very good show. I liked Cosby's show. I liked the episode where-- what's the son's name? Theo. Malcolm Jamal Warner. There you go. He had dyslexia. Yes. Um, and it's not the episode where they find out, but an episode where he becomes a teacher and he suspects that one of his students has dyslexia. Because he had it. That's a small plot in the movie. Summer School directed by Carl Reiner and starring Mark Harmon. Oh my goodness. So many connections. There's a scene where he draws like two circles and like a line on the chalkboard and the kids like, I don't get it. He goes, this is how you're going through life. And this is how you can be going through life. And like, he draws more lines and it turns out it's a bicycle. It's a picture of a bicycle. Okay. Because you're not seeing the full picture and he says, you're going through life with a flashlight. And did you find this inspirational? I remember. Right, right. I mean, I saw it when I was, gosh, I don't know, tiny, I mean, small, but I remember that so vividly. Yeah. It feels a good teacher. It was inspirational. That's the word for it. I remember when Theo met Stevie Wonder and said, jamming on the one. So Stevie, they go into the studio with Stevie Wonder and he's like teaching them how this keyboard works and he's sampling things they say. And he's like, oh Theo, what do you say to a girl at a party? And he's like, jamming on the one. I still have no idea what that means. I'll never know what it means. Maybe it's actually a bicycle and I couldn't see the whole picture of jamming on the one. Wow. You're going through life with a flashlight. Yep. I'll never be jamming on the one. That's a good episode. Also, there's an episode where I think it's Rudy gets her period and Rudy, now it's going to be Vanessa. No, I don't think so. This is late. Later. Yeah. Where Raven Simone's already. Okay. They've replaced the Cute Quotient with Raven Simone. Exactly. Yeah. Oh, she was adorable. She was absolutely adorable. I think Rudy was a little bit cuter. No, no. I liked Rudy, but Raven Simone was just like, you're cute. Rudy's eyes took up half her face, but you're so cute, but she gets her period and then she wants to talk to her mom about it. He's like, you'd rather talk to a lawyer than a guy in a college. Yeah. It's very funny. Wouldn't we all? Right. I mean, if you were at a party and they're like, let me introduce to my lawyer friend or my gynecologist friend. I'm going to be over here. You're going to be there with the lawyer. Yeah. I think so. Nine o'clock. Cheers. Cheers. Yeah. I thought you'd go with Cheers. So you've at least heard of Cheers. Oh, please. Yes. I mean, who doesn't know Cheers? I've eaten at Cheers. The real Cheers or the fake Cheers? Well, Fanniele Hall. That's the fake Cheers. I think I ate once at the real Cheers. Yeah. It's just nachos, but. Yeah. Well, that's all you want to get there. I wouldn't recommend anything else. It's so expensive. It really is. Cheers. Great show. I love Cheers. Always good. Endearing. Great show. Kirstie Yally has a new show called Kirstie. Called Kirstie. Called Kirstie with Michael Richard. She's in the movie Summer School with Mark Harmon directed by... What the hell? Summer School was written by Jeff Franklin who created Full House. So what I'm trying to say is you should probably really watch Summer School. I wish I had been taking notes, but this is like good. Yeah. I'll send you... I'll get someone to do a transcript of this and then you can just write down what you want. Appreciate it. I'll send it to a transcription service. I'll send it down to the secretarial pool. And then I'll send them an edible arrangement. There you go. There you go. Really, all arrangements are probably edible. I always thought it was weird, like you could probably eat most flowers. Yeah. They're covered in chocolate. Right. I mean, they're intended to be, but like edible is not really the best. Oh, I screw it. You want to hear like, delicious... Yeah. Yeah. Like, chocolate fruit arrangement is better than edible. Like, I've never described anything good as edible. Like, how was your dinner? I wouldn't be like, "Here was edible isn't going to be a compliment." I think it's typically they're not edible, but like you said, they could be. They could be. I mean, I don't think they're designed to be. Hmm. It seems like they're under shooting that descriptor. They were jambosos working there. I'm surprised. This boyfriend who used to work at an edible arrangement, I was like, "Oh, okay, so anyone can work here." Yeah. That was the bar set very low. Yeah. I'm surprised that company works. I'll never understand. The bar was set at edible. So... It's an edible bar. Yeah. You can just... He can put it together. Right, right. He can put fruits on sticks. He can answer the phone. Nice. Nice. That seems more skilled. 930, what'd you go with? I didn't put anything. Nothing. But night court is on. I didn't know that was a rule. But night court is on. You never watched night court? You never watched it. You've never seen it? Here's what I think it is. Okay. I think it's a naked gun type show about a courtroom. You're wrong. Okay. But you're not... Does that sound good, though? That does sound pretty good. You're not completely wrong. So by the last few seasons of night court, it did get pretty silly. And there were sort of naked gun-ish jokes in there at times. Like shtick. Yeah, it did get sort of sticky. So you're not completely wrong. Night court started as a fairly serious sort of comedy drama ad points. It was a Harry Anderson vehicle you may know from Dave's World. It was the 90s show. He was in with Shadow Stevens. John Larrichette. You know, John Larrichette? He's on almost human now. He was in Chuck. Chuck. He's in the movie Madhouse with Kirstie Allie. Sorry. I don't know what you mean. Night court was a great, great show. John Larrichette won and had the record and he still may have the record for the most Emmys for a comedy series. No way. He won every single year and night court was on and he had to ask them to stop nominating him. What? Because he didn't want to go anymore? Well, he was just like, "I have enough. I don't need any more of these Emmys." I guess it does take up a lot of space. He was very good in it. He had a great show called the John Larrichette Show, the imaginably name that was very dark. It was on for two seasons after night court ended. A comedy? It was sort of a comedy. He played a recovering alcoholic, a very successful guy whose life was ruined by booze who now the only job he could get was as the manager, the night manager of a bus station and there were like prostitutes and just sad people. Lenny Clark was on it as a secretly gay policeman. You love what I like. Yes, and so he played a gay policeman on the show and I don't know if he knew he was playing a gay policeman, but the writers did, and night court was great. I'm sad that you've never seen night court, it was on for nine seasons and it was a great show. It was one of my all-time favorites. You should really see night. Have you ever seen Barney Miller? No, but I've heard of it. Barney Miller was, a lot of the guys who created night court wrote for Barney Miller. Anyone who likes comedy, I've said this before, should watch Barney Miller. It takes place in one room. It was on for seasons and seasons and seasons, hundreds of episodes. What was that email? They never leave this room. It's about cops and they're just in this cop office, I don't know, precinct is what we're looking for, a cop office. A cop. Yeah, a cop. And it's just five guys in a room talking every episode and it's funny and engaging and you never get bored and it's just the best writing. It's fantastic. A lot of the two of the guys that worked on Barney Miller created Night Court and it's sort of a similar show in a lot of ways, but Night Court's a little bit more silly and Night Court's great. I should probably say this after we're done recording, but if you ever need a house sitter, you just watch things so we can feel free. Yes, you can watch our very unfriendly cat. Yes, I will take you up on that at some point, I'm sure. We have all these shows. We'll have a wild party. That's fine. Which would be very sitcom-y. It would be. As long as you clean up and just finish cleaning up two seconds before we get into the house, that would be fun. It's hard. Yes, yes. It's not supposed to be back till tomorrow. Friday night, the last night of the week, on TV Guide Week, eight o'clock, what do you get? Nothing. Nothing again. Yeah. I would have thought you would have gone with Perfect Strangers, the TJF. Well, I didn't know you could repeat things. Well, it's a different episode. Okay. Before Beauty and the Beast, all girls like Beauty and the Beast. Yeah, that's actually my favorite Disney movie. This was not the Disney movie. Oh. This is the TV series. What? They remade it this year. It started Linda Hamilton from Terminator 2, and Ron Perlman, who played Hellboy. I've seen the Hellboy movie. Very ugly man. Oh. Very good actor. Is it wearing makeup in Hellboy? Yes. It's not what he really looks like. But he was also wearing makeup from Beauty and the Beast. They took off his Beast makeup. Yes. Yes. It was a fantasy series where they were in love and he lived in the sewers. Girls loved it at the time. 830, Full House? Full House? Okay. Full House. Full House was my, your, what was your, family ties? The one with a really, really sad finale. Oh, that's family ties, yeah. So that to you, Full House was for me. So just in general, or the finale? The finale. I could not comprehend a show ending. Right. That's the one where Michelle fell off the horse and got to Asia. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. And DJ goes to the prom. Yep. Yeah. That was, that was tough. I watched that. I was a little too old for it, but I did, I checked out a Full House for the last couple seasons, but I did tune back in for the finale. I loved Full House. That was my favorite, that and Punky Brewster were my favorite shows. So you like stuff about dead mothers? I guess so. Pretty good. Yeah. You were like, as long as the mom's dead in this show, I love it. One show from the early 90s where there's not a dead mom. We had blossoms, dead mom. So she was away. She was a singer. She wasn't dead? Oh, she was, she might as well have been dead. Yeah. She was not. Yeah. There was a lot of dead or abandoned or just dead beat moms. Yeah. Yeah. For sure. And to be fair, Punky Brewster also didn't have a dead. That's true. She had a Henry. She was abandoned. She only had a confirmed bachelor to watch her with his French cuffs. Uh-huh. Nine o'clock. Friday night. What do you got? Nothing. Nothing. I will admit this one was tough. The movie Six Pack was on, which is not a great movie. It starts Kenny Rogers and he plays Diane Lane's dad in this movie. Love Diane Lane. There was a David Bowie concert on, which is probably what I would have watched at that time. But no sitcoms on. Uh, golf was on, it was, it was a pretty dire slot on that Friday night. I saw women's bowling somewhere in there. Women's bowling was on. Let's put that down. Yeah. I used to watch bowling a lot. Bowling was how you knew Saturday morning was over. And candle pin bowling came on, bowling, and did the Saturday morning. Wait. I didn't remember when Saturday morning was over, because one Saturday morning was done. It was that Disney thing. Do you ever watch that? Yes. I did. I watched that. Now it's way too old to watch that. Yeah. It was dug, recessed, pepper, and, oh, and then science court. I was like, made by Tom Sire Productions, who did Dr. Katz and home movies. Squiggle vision. Squiggle vision. So finally, Daniel Soto, a TV guide, and you're not familiar with this, and that this is your first experience using a TV guide. How did you find using a TV guide? Was it user-friendly or was it a little difficult? Now that I've seen you handle it, I feel like I could handle it better. Well, that's good. I take that as a compliment. Yeah. But TV guide doesn't just inform us. TV guide has opinions, and it cheers, and it cheers. And every week it has a section called Cheers and Jears. Before we get to Cheers and Jears, can I give a shout out to another Friday show? Yes, indeed. It was at 7 o'clock. Three's company. Three's company was a purely sleazy show, but entertaining nonetheless. What was your favorite roommate on Three's company? Probably Chrissy. Chrissy, really. So you were Susanne Summers. Definitely. Did you watch "Step by Step?" Of course. Yes. On TGI. Yeah, I like Joyce Dewitt. Really? I was a Joyce Dewitt fan. Really? Yeah, I like Joyce Dewitt. I like Joyce Dewitt. Also, I just think that Jack Tripper character was like... He's a chef. He's pretending to be gay. He's wearing short shorts. So funny. He just cracked me up. I missed John Mayer. Everyone loves John Mayer. So you were a really loved Hooperman. Yeah. You should check out Hooperman. Yeah. And see if you agree or disagree. I suspect you may not have enough information to make this decision, but let's go with it. So cheers to ABC's "China Beach" for putting a fresh twist on the old tired drama. This is the first series that speaks directly to the experiences of the thousands of women who served in Vietnam. Have you ever seen "China Beach"? Dina Delaney. You know it. It's a great show. Really good show. So they've cheered it. I would agree with that cheer, but I think you'll have to abstain from voting as you're unfamiliar with "China Beach." Oh, so now abstaining is okay. You can abstain for cheers. Yes. Cheers to ABC's "Probe" for Santa bashing during the family hour. In an episode of the scientist detective show airing at 8 p.m., Austin James said two disparaging things about St. Nick, including 20 million children see Santa Claus every year, but the heart of it insists the guy's bogus. One of our readers wrote to complain that this casual revelation necessitated a heart-to-heart talk with his distraught seven-year-old. I don't know why people find it so necessary to defend Santa Claus. He's doing fine. He's fine. He's fine. I think they're more upset that this show basically said, "Hey kids, you know that's Santa? Not real." I think a lot of shows do that. Just for no reason. Yeah. Oh, well maybe not for no reason. I think it's weird that they're complaining about that, and this is from May. Yeah. Like, you know, I think that six months after Christmas it's okay to say Santa's not real. Oh, excuse me. This inside. It makes me sneeze talking about Santa Claus. I'm allergic to revealing the truth to children. So you're agreeing with that cheer, or you're saying, "Hey, get over it." Get over it. Our next one is a cheer to Cinemax for making good on its promise to bring cable subscribers more and more movies. That's it? That's it. They're just happy that Cinemax is showing a lot of movies. I like it. Yeah, I think it'd be hard to disagree with that one. You're like, "No, you know, Cinemax is so less movies." There's too many. Yeah. No, Cinemax is doing its thing. And finally, jeers to NBC's Saint Elsewhere for ending such a delightful series on such a bizarre note. This is famous. Are you familiar with Saint Elsewhere? No. It was a hospital drama. It was a bit like ER. Okay. And in the last episode, the show had been on for eight seasons. They revealed that the entire series was a fantasy taking place in an autistic child's brain. Whoa. Yes. People did not like it, and they're jeering that. They didn't like that? I would have loved that. The show's final episode is suggested that everything has been the simple fantasy in the mind of one of the show's minor characters. Talk about pulling the rug out from underneath an audience. This was a jarring slap in the face. No, I think I would have loved that. I love like, kind of creaky. That reveal. Yeah. So your favorite show you've been watching for, you find out Golden Girls. All was a fantasy in an autistic child's brain. You would be cool with that. Let's not go. Well, I'm just trying to get close to home with this one. So you might have to sleep. I really are. You really are. I don't think you'd like that. No, I guess not. It's not. You know how to feel. It's different. Because it's a show you've never heard of. Right. Right. Fair enough. So you will disagree with the cheer and the cheer. Then there's nothing to do with me. It has no connection to your life. Well, Daniel Soto, thank you so much for being on the TV guidance counselor, and this was been informative for me. And hopefully you'll check out some of this stuff in the future. Thank you. Thank you. Very much. You're welcome. [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] And there you go. That was Daniel Soto as the TV guidance counselor, Boston Marathon, continues. Again, I want to remind you that Wednesday night at eight o'clock at Improv Boston, if you're in the Cambridge area, I'll be doing a live TV guidance counselor with my guest Mary Mack. And again, thank you guys for coming out to the Eugene Mermin Comedy Festival. And I always love seeing you guys. Thank you for saying hello. It's nice that there are actual people who listen to this show. I know I see download numbers, but it's, I don't always believe it. So it's nice that people come and say hello. And we'll have more episodes today. There's more coming. It is a marathon after all. I won't have 26.2 episodes. That was a little ambitious for me, but there's more than one, more than two, obviously. Again, email me, TV guidance counselor at gmail.com, or Canadaicandread.com. And we'll see you again next time on TV guidance counselor. [MUSIC] Well, I was born in 1988. We had a toaster oven. That's why I don't trust people with neck braces. Let's go and improve that they had actually had sex because he did it so quickly.
