[music] Happy Wednesday everybody, it's TV guidance counselor day. I am Ken Reid, your TV guidance counselor, as always, and my guest this week is Max Silvestri. You may have seen Max on The Feed, on the FYI network, or you may have seen his writing from Billy on the Street, or read many of his internet articles. He's a very funny senate comedian, he has a great album out that you will want. Just buy it now. But he's a guy I know from Boston, he's from Massachusetts originally. He kind of started in New York though, I think he would rather say. He's not a huge fan of the Boston comedy scene for a variety of very good reasons. Not just personally, but just there's good reasons not to be. But there's good reasons to be. Anyway, we used to do shows at the comedy studio quite a lot about a decade, a decade and a half ago. And then he moved down to New York and he's doing really well down there. He's got a great show called Big Terrific, Jenny Slate and a bunch of other great things going on. So I'm very happy to see Max doing very well. He's a funny guy and I really enjoyed catching up with him. We hadn't talked at length in quite a while. So this was a fun conversation. There's some interesting weird stuff in here that I really enjoyed. So please enjoy this week's episode of TV Guidance Counselor with my guest, Max Sylvesterie. Mr. Max Sylvesterie, Max, hello. How you doing, Ken? Good. Oh, thanks for doing the show, I'm pretty sure. We're in my home. Yes, thanks for welcoming me. I had to be blindfolded to get here with very strange. Yeah, but I still just gave you directions. You just didn't seem to be blindfolded. That's true, just get on the blindfold, which was extra weird because I did at some point I think I got on a boat. I'm not ever said positive but it was a little strange. It was a nice ride though, right? It was a nice ride. It was a nice ride, yeah. It was a little rainy, but that's fine, yeah. And they served excellent coffee. So you picked a TV guide from the week of May 15th to the 21st, 1993. Yeah. What drew you to this particular issue? I mean, it has the cast of Seinfeld, I believe there. It's Cheers. Cheers. Oh, excuse me. But I think what drew it, I was 10 then, I was 10 years old. And that was really like in the thick of me watching TV. And I'd always been a crazy TV viewer, but that was when we moved to a new house. Okay. I now had a room in kind of a separate area of the house. All right. So that there was no monitoring of my TV viewing. So they had no room, you could watch wherever you wanted. Yeah, I didn't have any special channels or anything like that. There was no cable box I didn't have HBO. But for so long, I think I'd had maybe an hour of TV a night on school nights. Oh, they're pretty strange. I mean, they didn't keep that much, but I was only a child. There's no one else to pay attention to. Right. So I feel like we should make a rule, I guess. Yeah. I couldn't watch TV after 10. And I was like getting into wrestling when I was like seven or eight. Oh, right. And the wall would come on later. So I had to do the thing where like I basically watch it on my tiptoes in a dark bedroom with the volume turned all the way down with my ear pressed to it, trying to understand what's happening. Like, my parents had a bedroom like not far from mine. So like I had to just like hurt the wood adjust at all. It was like immediately off. Do you think they knew you were watching it? I think they must have, but I was just, I think there must be some. I'm not a parent. I'm not a child, but there must be like some sort of understanding of like, look, as long as you're not flaunting your disregard for our rules. Like if you're afraid of us enough to sneak around, it's probably better. It's better than being like a rebel being like, you can't tell me what to do. I'm watching whatever I fucking want. Yeah, turning it up all the way or whatever. So, but then yeah. So then when I was like 10, we moved to Massachusetts and. Where were you before that? I was in Pennsylvania. I was born in New Jersey. But there were five years. I was in the Poconos in Pennsylvania. But then we moved to Massachusetts. And it was an alburo. Southboro. Southboro. Okay. A burrow. And yeah, so I just was like far enough away that I could just like live my happiest TV life. It's like having your own studio apartment. Yeah. And so I was just taking down at least two hours of TV every single night. Yeah. So this was like, I was watching a lot of shows that I didn't understand what was going on. And a lot of like, that's when I started getting into like the, I think we had the comedy channel or Han Network for the first time. Yeah. Yeah, 89. It started. I was called CTV when it first started and hot. There were two separate channels. We didn't have it in Massachusetts in Pennsylvania. But I remember like we finally had it and. It's like a Cox cable. I think it was a Rhode Island head cable. Oh, no, we had a terrible, really small. It was like, now it's Jesus cable. It was really, it was like that. Yeah. But I couldn't get anything. There was actually years that I wrote. I called every two weeks about the sci-fi channel because I wanted sliders so bad. I did this thing. The sliders went off Fox to sci-fi. Yeah. And I'd be like, you just need to add like, you need to add sci-fi so I can watch sliders. I did the same exact thing. I used to subscribe to the sci-fi channel magazine without having the sci-fi channel because they used to advertise on the USA network on the time. Yeah. And I would call every week about Cartoon Network and sci-fi channels which we even get to like five years in. So I went to a state, not a state, a city like Councilman meeting. Yeah. I was like 12 to like ask when we were going to get these channels because part of it was the negotiation that the city did with the. Sure, sure. And it was like my big council meeting. Yeah. That's so funny. It was like, excuse me. Yeah. Point of order. Very, very bad. So I knew you when you lived in Massachusetts but that's kind of on the Rhode Island border. No. Alboro is. I was probably like 40 minutes or so. It was a little bit south and west but it's more like Metro West. So I was between Worcester and Boston. Okay. So right in the thick of like nothing. Right. You know. The people sort of on the Rhode Island border would have this unique area where they would get both Rhode Island stations and Massachusetts stations. I was always jealous of that. You know. Yeah. It was actually telling someone the other day speaking of living the dream. So when I was probably like 99 I'd say so this was I was like a junior software junior in high school. I was like pretty into the Internet and was like I was into pirating things very early just because it was access to like shows and stuff. So there was like you know like I had binders full of history science theater. I was like one of them like I was a moderator in that area. Even though I never ripped anything I just was like you know active in the forums and whatever. But I on some forum I was on found out about this essay contest when Tivo had come out. Right. So they had a contest they were giving away like 10 Tivo's a day for a month and you had to like submit an essay that was basically like copyright. Like copywriting. What they wanted was like we're picking the best essay a day of. Why is Tivo great. How would you use your Tivo to keep track of your favorite television rivalry. Right. So I wrote this like really schlocky. I was like this is not I'm not writing me. This is like I want a Tivo. Right. So you're like you want to hear. Exactly. I was like was not a big contest enter or that was not like my thing. But I was like I want this and I can do this and I wrote this paragraph that was like Tivo. I never miss a second of Homer versus Ned Flanders. Like this whole thing about the Simpsons like with this with this three second backwards feature I can catch the look on his face when like. It's modern design. Totally like all these options. But then I got a Tivo and I was like that was Tivo one. It was I was like they were like five hundred four hundred. Oh yeah. They had like two hours of memory or something. Yeah. It was like pretty low. It was like you could pick your quality at the time. It was pretty digital so you could be like have three hours of like high death or like 12 hours of crappy. Right. And that's what they called it. Crappy. Exactly. So I was like the only person that had this Tivo and like kids at school were like you have a Tivo. Like that's amazing. And then one day I got a knock on my door probably in 2000 maybe 99 and it was a Nielsen person saying do you want to be a Nielsen family. And even at that age I like knew about how rare it was to be a Nielsen family. And also having like followed weird niche programming like sliders and stuff. I also knew the power. I can change the world. Yeah. Like I went to Babylon 5 in middle school and stuff. So like I knew you know reading like Usenet news groups that was always on the edge. Like oh we've got a fight to get it back because it's ratings for this. Save our shows. The Nielsen person like was at my door. It was like wow I literally I'd seen that Roseanne episode where they're like you know they're like we need to watch PBS or whatever. But she was like you know would you like to be a Nielsen family. And I answered the door and my parents burned home and I was like yes this will this is life changing. Did you think your parents would have said no. No I did but I just was like yeah I got this. Like I got the main TV or I make the decisions like blah blah blah. You were like you guys heard about me. Yeah but then like my third question was do you guys work with Tivo. And they barely can work with cable boxes. Like you had to like manually adjust it. Like it worked with some but they were like you know this is so pre DVR. There was no DVR. This was only Tivo. And they said oh no we don't I'm sorry and walked away. And I didn't think of like lying or being like I'll get rid of my Tivo. I was just asking. Yeah just curious don't have one. But I mean the power I would have given up my ability to time shift or whatever if I could have like controlled the fate of Babylon 5 or whatever. Was that the show you think you would have saved. I think it was post Babylon 5. Maybe Roswell. Yeah. Dark Skies. Exactly. Like any genre show I like gave a shot to. My wife and I were an arbitron family. Really. Yeah. I'm not allowed to tell anybody. Did you really sign an NBA for arbitron? I don't think we signed an NBA but they said they couldn't. We just shouldn't tell anyone. And they give you a little beeper. A little beeper thing. There's no box you hook up to your TV. It's like a beeper and it reads signals from television and radio and then you plug it in at night and it sends what you watched. So it knows you're leaving a channel. It like just knows what you're on basically. Yeah. Yeah. And now there's really some smart ways for a ton of smart ways. But yeah, '93 was like, you know, pre-high school so like I didn't have work or anything. Yeah, you can't drive anywhere. You can't drive anywhere. And you don't hang out with your parents because you're a little too old for that but not old enough to have like a lot of kind of teenage friends. Some neighborhood friends but also like I was the only child that liked being by myself. My parents liked each other a lot and so every night we would sit down and have dinner together. There was never any TV on during dinner. Okay. 60 minutes. We were one of the like. And then night football into 60 minutes was the only time we left. So late dinner. Yeah. You know? That's we were like a seven o'clock family. But we would eat dinner together. My dad would always have like cut up fruit after and I would say like, "Thank you. That was delicious. May I please be excused?" Well, that's that then. Yeah. And I would just leave. And I would just watch TV and surf the internet on dial up until, you know, whatever. And then you get a phone call and kick you off the internet and be like, "Come on!" No, I think I fought for a cable moment. I mean '93' was definitely dial up but I like... I'm proud of you real well. We had Prodigy first and then CompuServe. Oh wow. But then mostly AOL. Right. I mean we had Prodigy before there was anything to do on it. Like there wasn't like worldwide web when we had Prodigy. It was like keywords. Yeah. And like BBS. But I definitely like try to get on BBSs. Like found out about those. It was like definitely a weird text file. Did you see war games? Oh yeah. Before then? I don't think that's where I learned about BBSs. I think I just like got into weird use net forms. See we had a computer early because my dad worked at Raytheon and knew a bunch of like techie nerds. Yeah. And so one of his friends built us a computer in like 1990. Yeah. And so we had the internet like '92 probably. Yeah. But I didn't really use it for that much. I did, I won a contest in '96 on the Mr. Show message board. Wow. And I won a custom... Blow up the moon? Was that what that was called? I think so, yeah. That was not a special thing. That was 'cause a special thing... Was later, right? No, a special thing was pretty early but maybe blow up the moon was earlier. This, whatever the official message... Special thing was the tenacious D-match message board. Yes. And then that kind of all merged. Yeah, yeah. This was like the dedicated Mr. Show board was on. Yeah, it wasn't a lot of people on it. So it was pretty easy. Yeah. They do like monthly contests. And so I won... I forget what I had to do. But I watched the show and I won a custom Mr. Show bowling shirt. Wow. A global bowling show with my name on it. That's a really good... It's a really cool prize. It probably didn't cost him that much. Yeah. But it was such a cool prize. I still have it. It says 'can' on it. It's got the Mr. Show board. You're a real collector, right? Yeah. Yeah. I collect one of the other things I collect is like cast and crew jackets and shirts. Really? So I have probably 200 crew jackets. Do you buy them on eBay? Some of them I get on eBay. Yeah. But I have some cool ones like from like Parker Lewis and that's growing in pains. There was a kid at my high school who I went to. I didn't live there but a lot of kids boarded from other places. Right. At my high school and this kid was from DC and his brother like worked on film crews or whatever. Right. And he, so this kid I knew and my grade would wear a Joe Spencer would wear a fallen crew jacket from the John Goodman Denzel Washington. Yes. Body switching movie. Body switching movie. Please allow me to introduce myself on the tablets of the camera. Right. So good. You mean the boring hidden camera. Right. Right. But I just thought I was like wow. You are relatives with someone that's worked on a movie. Yes. This is like the most insane thing that I've ever. Oh yeah. And I don't think I've ever worn one in public. It's actually surprising a nice like rain jacket. It wasn't like a cheese ball like Farsi. Yeah. Yeah. A satin. I have a really cool satin fall guy jacket. It's like I'm a stunt man. You'd be surprised how cheap those things sell for. It does not surprise me at all. They give so many away and people are like wait a second. I never, I'm embarrassed by this problem. Yeah. I do like seven of these a year. Yeah. If you're in LA or Vancouver or whatever. I want a Christmas bonus. Not a goddamn jacket. Exactly. Yeah. Don't make me drive after being awake for 14 hours. Have a bed instead of a jacket. Some team still wearing a Melrose place hoodie. It's awesome. Yeah. So nice. It's so cool. I brought that up because I'm just not collector. Especially living in New York. I have nothing from when I was a kid. But you're such a ruthless way. Really? Every year I throw everything out I haven't touched. Have you always been like that though? I was just out of laziness probably at Packrat until college. And then I just was like I don't want to deal with organizing this. My mom moved out of my childhood home recently. She did a purge. Yeah. And I realized how like I took pictures of some stuff. But I like all these boxes of books and comics that I was like one day. But I was like what is that day? I'm 31. My kid's not going to want any of this. Yeah. Whenever that happens in the trash. I'll rebuy it if it's so important. Yeah. I've sort of come around to that too. I mean a lot of the stuff was due to my like extreme ridiculous depression. And my mother when I was living in England. My mother lost our house. And not like lost it like I can't find it. But it was taking from her. And so everything I owned as a kid that I didn't have in my apartment was just gone. So I think I tried to rebuy all of that stuff. And so I had, and I was always like well well I have some money now. Because I always had this idea. I'm like I'm going to be completely destitute at some point. Yeah I have some money. I'll get everything I want. And then I won't have to leave the house. Right. My life will be complete once I have this next possession. Yeah. It'll be like a video that's known to come up to my house. And part of it is now I can digitize so much. There's so many of my comics. You know I can read them on my tablet. Yeah. And you know. Same. I'm a big digital collector of ephemera. I'm like crazy hard drives. Right. I used to have CDs and CDs of stuff. Weird downloads and comics. Yeah. I mean I have like 200,000 songs on my cloud that I used to all be on CDs. Which I all got rid of. And the books I'm starting to get rid of. So I'm getting there. Yeah. But I think yeah if you move to New York or city like this. You can't have a lot of stuff. Yeah. All it takes is one move for you to realize how much you don't need that stuff. Oh yeah. When you get an apartment for four years and you're like oh I never looked at this once. Yeah. And now I'm like spending a day and money to move it. Right. You know. And I have to find a place for it. Yeah. And that's where I started doing it. I was like stuff in my basement when we moved to our house five years ago. I haven't touched since we moved. I can get rid of that stuff. Yeah. And then whenever my friends would help me move. We're like why do you have this fucking box of laser disc that weighs a hundred pounds. And I'm like well just move it. And then I'll figure it out. Yeah. But it's technically a better transfer. The audio is a lot better. It's an analog audio. But it's much better than the conversion. Every DTS release of it. So yeah. Slightly higher fidelity. So I'm kind of getting over that now. And there's stuff that I you know I have I'm like I'm never going to get to work. Yeah. I think I sat and calculated that if I just if all I did was watch things that I have. All day. Like didn't sleep. And for the rest of my life given the averages of life expectancy. I would get through like 30% of what I have. Wow. So it's like this is ridiculous because I also collect old broadcast and television that can be a jazz and beta that I convert digitally. And so that just that stuff alone would take forever. Yeah. So I'm getting there. You're right. I envy. Great to see you. I really see you in a couple of years. That's very nice. Yeah. A little bit better now. So let's jump right in. It's Saturday night eight o'clock. What are you going with? All right. Saturday night eight o'clock. I used to love these specials TV censored bloopers. Yes. This was the sort of redesign of bloopers and practical jokes which became a weekly show for about eight years after it was a weekly show for that long. Yeah. It was a weekly show for that long. But if you watched it after a while they kind of ran out of bloopers. Yes. I feel like they used to see the same. They would try to make thematic one like themed ones. But I was like, I've seen that one before. So then they started expanding it. They'd be like, we're showing foreign commercials and now here's just weird little movies people sent us. They were interviewing crazy people on Hollywood Boulevard and it kind of lost the core of the blooper. The blooper, the flub. Yes. Yeah. I want to see a pure flubbage. Well, there was a rival show called follow-ups bleeps and blunders. That's like a Simpson's like version of that. Brand X, like a store brand blooper show and that was hosted by Don Rickles. Wow. When was that? That was when they started. So the blooper phenomenon, so the blooper phenomenon started by this guy named Kermit something in the '60s and he used to put out LPs of bloopers because you couldn't buy videotapes. Yeah, it would be like newscasters and things. It would be like newscasters, but a lot of it would be like Star Trek was like one of the big ones. Yeah. And then he would put out these little pocket-sized soft-cover books of transcripts of bloopers and people would buy them and be like, well, like he said, Joni instead, can you imagine? One can imagine. You can still get them. And so actually on bloopers and practical jokes at the end of every episode, they have a little crawl that's like a tribute to this Kermit, whatever got the king of the bloopers. That's so funny. These books became like a huge phenomenon in the '70s. And so that's when they got the idea to do the TV show around '81 and follow-ups bleeps and blunders was on the same season on, I think, ABC and bloopers was on NBC. So it became a huge phenomenon and then, you know, people started picking up on the bloopers and things and like entertainment tonight would error them and stuff. So they really started focusing more on the practical jokes, which got very cruel after a while. I'm a big practical joke fan, but I love a blooper. I mean, like even today, YouTube compilations of local news bloopers are one of my favorite genres of comedy. There's one that my wife and I just, even thinking about, just laugh at and this new cast is someone's death and he meets the say he was 72 years old. Have you seen this one? I think I have. And he goes, "He was 72 degrees." And then he corrects himself though he was correction. And he was 72 degrees. He does it again. Oh, it's correct. Well, the ones where they get caught in the loop, there's one where I think a woman's talking about like someone like who's blind and it's like, "And she's gay." I mean, she's gay. Sorry, she's gay. I mean, she's gay. Yeah. Oh yeah, they just lose their minds. It's great. And then there's ones where like people literally have like aneurysms, you know, where that like go viral and it's like, "Oh, I think there's something happening in this brain." There's something that's good. That's good. Words are no longer working. Or get really hurt. Very badly. Like that with a grape woman or whatever. Like that's, I feel so bad that the sound is so funny. Yeah, that sound is too funny and I wish that I didn't laugh at it. These would always be less violent though. It would always be like a bird pecking someone's balls or just someone saying they're just laughing. Yeah, yeah. Which it was a simpler time. So this is when they kind of came back to the specials again. Like when they had enough to really put together, that's when I really knew it. I feel like I never watched it weekly, but I remember being excited by being like having to remember like, "Oh, this weekend, like, yeah, like I'd see an ad for it." It's bloopers. It's bloopers. I gotta get in there. They got something. They got mix and do our bush. We're going to have wings. It's going to be great. Yeah, and this one, this is a very special one because this is miscues by former president George Bush and bloopers from British TV are among the highlights and this new collection of outtakes also clips from late night with David Letterman, the Jackie Thomas show, wings, days of our lives, Delta and the Fresh Prince of Bel Air. What a lineup. What a lineup. Leading with Bush too. What a lineup. Oh man. You know what the, one of the things they showed, I remember this episode was him puking on the... Oh, the Japanese membership. Yes. That was like, that's the ultimate blooper. The ultimate blooper. The presidential vomit. So that's an hour. I definitely would have watched that. There's not a lot else on that night. At that time you have like Dr. Quinn and cops is usually my go-to because it's always entertaining. Yeah. I was always a little skeeted out by cops. I had like a weird thing as a kid. I did not like, I don't know, we were like solidly middle class, but things that sort of like showed the underbelly. Even like that. Even when it was funny, like married with children always gave me like a weird vibe of like, oh, this is like, I don't like, it's not the poorness. It was like the sort of like, rudeness or the like, squalor of it. You know, like there was something, there was like an edge to it that made me slightly uncomfortable. It was like, oh, I don't. And actually my nine o'clock pick relates to this and that I was, my nine o'clock pick was empty nest. Okay. A show I never watched regularly and does not have that like, no. But it's a dark bit of a slimy vibe. I think it like feels like it was shot in like Miami or something. It's like very blousey and like day glow colors. Like everyone is like a little tan, like thin gold necklaces and it was also very foreign to me. Little ethnic. Perhaps. Like a tan. It's like tan. I pretend we're all one race. Healthy glow. Healthy glow. A couple of healthy glows. But I remember that show being like, this feels very foreign. I wasn't skeeted out. I watched that show being like, this feels like a different slimy world. Yeah. What set in Florida, which I have a natural aversion to myself. It was a spinoff of Golden Girls. Right. He was their neighbor, Richard Mulligan. Right. And I just couldn't relate to that show because it was like an old man doctor and his two middle aged daughters. There was like nothing for me to really grab onto in there. I weirdly latched on to a lot of shows that I shouldn't have. Like I remember being a kid and like around this time coming to the dinner table and repeating like Bobby Slaton stand up bits. Right. I'd seen on the comedy channel or whatever about divorce. Yeah. And so like, what are you? Are you trying to tell us to get a divorce? I was like, what do you want to understand what that punchline is about? Right. But I like the rhythms of adult things. Yeah. I mean, I remember when I first heard the word jerk off. I didn't know. Like I was like, it's a jerk. And off. Well, how is that bad? I started using it all the time. I was probably like nine. And I was like, guys are real jerk off because I was like, it's like a jerk, but better. And my parents were like, do you know what that is? And I'm like, it's a jerk off. It's a jerk off. Yeah. I remember lying about what a blowjob like when that first went around my fifth grade class. You were all getting blowjobs. Yeah. No. Some kid just in bed was like, uh, do you know what a blowjob is? Yeah. And it was fifth grade. And I made the finger in circular finger, which was like, yeah, that's the standard hands of standards. Yeah. You could tell me. But I was like, what else could it be? Like you got your finger and you got your finger hole. Like there's no. Anything that ended in job. That was the hand gesture. You know what a paint job is? Yeah. Yeah. That's right there, right? Totally. Yeah. I would, I would do this. I didn't talk to my parents that much, but I do remember like going to school and like repeating a lot of like, stand up that had nothing to do with me because I was the only child I'd just talked. Like I really liked talking to my parents at them a lot, you know, I mean, they were like supporters. Because they were there. They were there. And so just they, I'd have to eat dinner with them. And my own weird kid thoughts. Was there a show that you watched that you like felt the opposite or like, this is comfortable. This seems like my family or like my world more than anything else? No, I feel like I never really like identified in that way or I wasn't particularly interested in things that I did you. Yeah. Like and that's true to this day. Like I don't now as an adult who is a professional comedian of some sort. I don't really like watching comedies. I don't watch many of them because you watch the, you know, too much of what goes into them. So you know, it's just like when I want to watch TV, I want to watch like, like a weird spy drama. Because it's a legal procedural. Yeah. It's just a different thing. And I'm like interested in the mechanics of that world and like, but there is a little bit of the sausage of like, oh, like, how are they making this friendship work for the show about people in their twenties, trying not to talk about or whatever. And my wife and I do that too. And we have a, we have trouble not just punching everything up. We're like, oh, he missed it. It would have been so much better. Yeah, totally. And it's like when I watch things that are totally out of like what I would create, I'm far more comfortable. And sliders isn't on all the time. So it's difficult. It's tough. It's tough. They're all on DVD to find all those alternate worlds that look a ton like ours except everywhere is it? Yes, exactly. Were you a curry or a fan for the most part? Yeah, I probably wasn't didn't stick with it as hard, but I also had a crush on her. So I liked it. I think everybody did. She was a master too through the portal of time because she wasn't that big. I probably watched like a clip of it online, if you can say it. So I mean, this was on at nine o'clock. And I think that that is probably the go to as well, although I think I would have flipped between a couple of things because there was also a show called code three. And this is Boston police try to diffuse a terrorist bomb with explosive results. A man in Berkeley, California threatens to kill 33 hostages unless his demands are met and it was hosted by Gil Gerard. So this was like a nonfiction is nonfiction. So this was their attempt to sort of make Saturday night on Fox a sort of crime reality night. Wow. Because they have unsolved mysteries later. They had on March was wanted this year from Saturday nights to Sunday nights back and it had been on Sundays originally when Fox first started because it was like my rich children and then America's most wanted. So but they moved to Saturdays, which made sense with cops and they were trying to find a sort of cop America's just want to replacement. So the show code three was only on for about half a season. Uh, it wasn't great, but I kind of would, especially for anything Boston, I would always watch. Oh, of course. What was the description for empty nasty. So empty nasty is Laverne sets Harry up on a blind date with a woman played by Barbara Mandrel of the Mandrel sisters from Boston. Meanwhile, Charlie rescues Emily from the clutches of a lecherous community. Yeah, that's why I especially responded that I was like, I'd really like to read. I don't think I ever saw that ever. Who was a lecherous comedian in Miami in 1993 and might have been Bobby's lead. Um, yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. He has such like a lounge lizard. Oh yeah. Miami back. And at this time, Comedy Central had a show called Lounge Lizards. They sure did. Yeah. I like that show. So I probably would have flipped between that and then ancient secrets of the Bible because although I may devout atheist, I always love these weird shows that were like Nostradamus type Bible code type. Yeah. I love that, you know, history channel and stuff gets away with that now where they're like, well, we, you know, aliens probably do not leave a code in the Bible. But if they did and then it has like professors guessing or whatever. Like, oh, Jason, if I did it. So at 930, we're going, you know, we were talking about things that I did not identify with. Um, I, for some reason, I mean, this is a repeat, but I was like, into mad about you. I love mad about you. And it was, I don't know how my child would like mad about you. It's something so adult and it's very New York and yeah, it's like, Upper West Sidey, like Nebuchadne, like neurotic, like so many things that being like a New England, Irish cat, like not Irish cat, but like Catholic, like it's having an American. Yeah. It's just not what I am and there was something like what and they just had like their annoying neighbor. Yeah. The kid was such a small part of it, you know, they were just, but it was really funny. It was. It was so fast paced and verbal that I think that's what I lashed onto as a kid was, was that the dial and maybe sort of being a bit of a comedy nerd at the time. It really appealed because it was, it was unusual too, like it was just like really snappy and I think it was almost like a screwball comedy in the, in the writing for the language part, not necessarily all of the situations. Yeah. And it's sort of like, and it's so smart like Seinfeld did to have to pair such a great actress with such a white comedian who maybe is not an actor first, you know, Paul Reiser, I think is a better actor, maybe than Jerry Seinfeld, because he had my two dads under his belt. Exactly. He'd been around that, been around that rodeo before, but, you know, Helen Hunt and Julie Louis Dreyfuss are like such good actresses that like, you know, and yeah, they're good comedic actresses, but just like straight up. But they were clearly hired to be straight men and then as the shows went on, you realized how funny they were. Yes. And she was like kind of looney tunes, but she's completely unreasonable and it's like just out of her mind. Totally. That show, I think is one of the most underrated 90s sitcoms, there's like five sitcoms that I think are better, more timeless sitcoms in the 90s than Seinfeld. Yeah. Don't get credit. And it's like, Matt about you, news raising you. News raising you. I was on the top line always. I love links. I love links. Those three especially are hilarious shows that were consistent for the whole time we're on. I think news radio like feels fresh like to put it on today feels like you would never know. I mean, maybe some of the clothes or something, but it doesn't seem like a 90s show at all. Yeah. Very, very funny show. I feel like it even was like you couldn't get a show like news radio on now, like too weird for a broadcast. Oh, absolutely. And it would be like a 10 minute adult swim show or something. Yeah. Totally. It would be more weird and like in that. But it was on for a long time. It was on like six or seven seasons, which was crazy. Yeah. Yeah. And Matt about you is another one of those that I still rewatch this show all the time and it's very consistent and really funny. Was Matt about you in the Thursday power block? It was. Yeah. They moved it around a little bit because it did well in that Thursday power block, but that's why they moved it to Saturday. Oh, so this wasn't like a weird evening. No, no. They were trying to build a night around it for a while and it didn't quite work. Okay. But I think they landed on Mondays or something eventually in the late 90s when it was kind of their legacy show. So what would we go on with that as well, although I will say code three has a second episode. Yeah. Once again, a rhythm, you know, turn the rhythm off. And I thought when you said, even though I couldn't identify with it, I watched you're going to go up Dr. Shubaga. So Sunday night, eight o'clock, what are you going with? Sunday night, I really liked murder, she wrote. Really? Yeah. That was like a, I liked mysteries and I guess I never realized the like in congressness of like a child watching, like a retiree solving. Yeah. But I think children love black and white. And those shows were the most black and white. There was no shit to gray and especially at this time. Yes. And there was like, you know, I feel like those shows were like heavy with foreshadowing and like, you know, there was always justice served. Yeah. It was very satisfying. It was very satisfying. And I think I really responded to the completeness of the hour. Would you watch that with your parents? No. Did you watch anything with them besides from 60 minutes? You know, my dad was much older and I feel like even with something with murder, she wrote like our television tastes never aligned. Your dad was from Italy? No, no. But he was raised by like Italian dad, like an immigrant dad and you know, in a pretty like old school household. He's just like taste for very like throwback. So he would watch like the honeymooners or like the westerns? Like, I kind of can't remember what he would watch until terra classic movies in AMC. Like I feel like he would just watch old movies. Like, you know, if he could watch singing in the rain exclusively, you know, that kind of like genial, soft, feel good. Not that that's a bad. He's an MGM candy colored music. Yeah, exactly. Like gimme, you know, soft pattern and very coded romance, keep the romance coded. So not that murder, she wrote was an example, but like we never, you know, the move toward greedy cable dramas did not suit him very well. He didn't even like on his own, watching things that had like swearing in him. Right. He's not watching NYPD blue. Right. And so murder, she wrote this night is a romance novelist. Apparently was the intended victim of her assistance killer. This has William Cat in it was the greatest American hero in the movie house as the guest star. I never really watched murder. She wrote, but I'm always surprised since I started doing the show, hearing how many of my friends watch murder for this three shows that's a four really people watch Nova a lot. I never watched. Wrestling everybody. Yeah, everyone. Murder, she wrote and Star Trek, the next generation. Yeah. Everybody watches. It surprises me. Maybe it's this type of friend you have. It could be. Yeah. It could be. I watched a lot of TNG. I would have gone at this time. I would not have gone with murder. She wrote. That's a show that I would watch like on the lifetime afternoons sometimes. But on TV 38, which was our sort of UHF affiliate on the movie loft, they were showing Stephen King's graveyard shift, which is a terrible adaptation of a Stephen King book. But I would have watched it for the first hour. Absolutely. Yeah. How can you not? Sure. I've never seen this, but I really like the cast and description of there was a little boy. Okay. I have never seen this either. This was a made for TV movie. It is on CBS and this is new clues to the kidnapping of their infant son 15 years ago, drive an Oregon couple played by Sibyl Shepard and John Heard. It's a pretty banging cast. Yeah. On a desperate quest based on the novel by Claire R. Jacobs. This is a pretty damn good cast. Terry Ivins is in it. I would not have watched this and for good reason. This is the debut of a four part mini series, Wild Palms, which I'm surprised you didn't check out as a sci-fi guy. No. Do you remember Wild Palms? No, I don't at all. Wild Palms was based on the writing of, what's the guy's name? Oh, man. He's like a playwright. He's in the movie, How I Got in a College. He married Rebecca DeMornay. I can't remember his name. He's a fairly famous guy. Someone's probably yelling at the headphones now, but it was sort of an attempt. If you remember after Twin Peaks, they greenlit anything weird for a while. Yeah, it's like how Lost had like a couple of years of like drawn out. Strange. Yeah. Strange. And so this was sort of the absolute tail end of it and they had greenlit stuff like you had, you know, Northern Exposure was one of the things and even picket fences later. But this is when we started giving like American Gothic and the stuff that had that. I remember I'm not. This was sort of like this town of secrets. Exactly. This was a future set cyberpunk sort of murder mystery. Whoa. Yeah. That sounds like a woman right on top. It was produced by Oliver Stone. Dana Delaney, Kim Cottrell, Angie Dickinson, Ernie Hudson, Beebe Newworth, just really great cast. I don't remember that now that you say it. The name didn't strike anything at all. I'm like like. Star James Balushi. Maybe that would have turned you off? Oh, yeah. I mean, I didn't have no judgment against him at that time. I think. I like James Balushi. He's been in some good stuff. I, you know, I responded to there was a little boy because I probably wouldn't have watched it then. But now my favorite genre of shows is mostly British mysteries about children that were murdered. Okay. Which there is. Is it? Plan to be. Is it a bit. Yeah, I don't know. BBC puts them on. There's a lot of dealing with the pain of losing a child and doddering old detectives or families trying to track down. Did you watch Fringe? Uh, I gave it a year. And you, then you, did you ditched it? Yeah, I thought it was bad. Oh, no. Oh, you get to watch season two. I don't really have an energy for genre. It's exactly what you described though. It's about the loss of a child but with sci-fi. Yeah, that's the thing. I don't like the sci-fi element. Okay. I'm like, I like, like procedural, like detective, like, um, that is like all I watch right now. Okay. That shows me. Yeah. Yeah. So then you wouldn't watch Wild Palms. And I was in this for the whole week because it's a four-part mix. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Cyberpunk fiction. And this is the funniest part of rereading this is that it's set in the year 2007. Which, as we all know, as it opens, Jane Belushi accepts a job at a TV station that is about to revolutionize the industry by utilizing a technology known as, and this is in quotes, virtual reality, which converts TV transmissions into 3D holographic programs. I think we all remember when that happened. Yeah, that was amazing. This was about the dangers of virtual reality, which people really in '93 felt virtual reality was huge. Yeah. We had, like, the lawn mower man. Yeah. I'll be living on, you know, inside the grid or whatever, as avatars. Exactly. Exactly. Which I don't think is true. I mean, second life is a thing for some people. I have to check. Nicely multiplayer online. Yeah. So that's what I'm going on with. And the weirdly they promoted this by saying the man who brought you Platoon, Wall Street, and JFK presents his first production for television. That's, I mean, that's a pretty good, but it's nothing like those things. No. No, no, no. I remember it's being a mini-series, slightly, I got really into, and the producer died recently, but like the really epic NBC mini-series that happened for a handful of years, there was like the Odyssey. Oh, yeah. The Iliad. Did they do the Iliad? I don't think they ever did the Iliad, but they did, yeah, they did the Odyssey. They did, um, uh, one that's maybe called the "10th Kingdom". Okay. It was like that. Merlin. Yeah. It was like basically high, you know, and this one producer like made all these happens. They were like, you know. It was like the early 2000s, probably. Yeah. Yeah. I remember them happening, but I didn't watch. Maybe a little earlier. It might have been late '90s. I feel like I taped them in high school. I was being able to like, to stand and have that kind of early '90s stuff. I watched, I really liked to stand. I think that it was a little before. I re-watched the stand recently, and it's pretty awful. Okay. That doesn't spread out. It definitely suffers from the TV budget. And what a bum out. Like it's really, really depressing. Yeah. There's like no redeeming. I mean, a lot of Stephen King's stuff has the problem of, you know, humanity, I mean, it's a pretty bummer ending. Two manities a bummer. Yeah. Cemetery is one of the most depressing things I've ever done. Yeah. I remember the ending of that. It like sticks in my mind so terribly. The book is even just like red. I think I've only read one of his books. I'm not kind of writing that much. I liked it the miniseries better than the book, because they cut out the child gangbang, which was a plot point that I had an issue with in the book. Producers, they serve a role, inappropriate. So Monday night, eight o'clock, what are you going with? Monday at eight o'clock, this is, this is not, I'm not embarrassed by this. I would do evening of championship skating, even though it was repeat. I mean, this was like prime star skating. I mean, this is Scott Hamilton and Nancy Kerrigan. Oh yeah. Did you watch a lot of skating? Kind of. I mean, when this, when like, Nancy Kerrigan was a thing, it was hard to not get caught up in that. Yeah. Especially in New England. Yeah. Exactly. Like I had never paid attention to it. Probably not since, but I remember being like excited for, and like understanding what like the triple, you know, like all that stuff. It was just like, yeah. Did you skate? No. We tried to ice skate once, and I would, you know, shuffle and sneakers across the, the ice or whatever. The crates. Yeah. But I was like, something about ice skating, I was like, this is cool, or whatever, for a brief period. Yeah. This was, yeah. This was, yeah. I think that ice skating took hold of more of a, more of a fan base than it ever did in the, in the round this time. This was probably the only thing that's crazy. Yeah. Yeah. And Nancy Kerrigan was like a huge star. She hosted Saturday Night Live. That's crazy. Yeah. Crazy. And it's not the best episode because she is a no way an actress. Sure. I mean, all the sports star episodes have a certain charm. Yeah. Absolutely. Terribleness. Absolutely. Absolutely. And she was from the next town over from me growing up with the town I live in now. And so I remember before the Olympics amped up and before the whole Tanya Harding thing, she was at like, you would go see her working out at the rink. She was already kind of like, yeah, she was like a little forever day. So it was even crazier when, not only she got in the Olympics, but then, you know, they made two different TV movies about it and, you know, weird owls referencing it. Yeah, man. It was just crazy. So I can't blame you. I think this would have been somewhat exciting to watch. Yeah. You know, all you had against it was a repeat of evening shade and the Fresh Prince. However, it is a special night. This is the last ever episode of evening shade. Oh. Bert Reynolds. Last successful television series. Oh. Which was on a bad show, actually. Well, my site's 2020, you know. The remedies in it. Oh. This episode. It's been so young. And television series that she did, actually third, if you can't say it by the bell, which is less of a television series and more of a whale life. Yeah. So yeah, I can't blame you for that. I probably wouldn't have watched it. I probably would have gone with evening shade. Okay. As it is the final episode. Yeah. We're watching a clock. What are you going with? Murphy Brown. I was a big Murphy Brown head. It's a great show. Yeah. I think Murphy Brown is fantastic. He's such a good workplace comedy. I loved all of its vibe. I love the painter. I, that was a show again that, like, dealt in very like adult things. Right. You know? In politics, which was always a turn off. Yeah. DC work. Yeah. Offices. Like meddling, unfair, middle managers. You know, all these things that were like very far in my sense. You're not dealing on a daily basis with these things. No. A guy that's always there working on my house. What is that? Yeah. I don't know what about that resonated me. She was just so good. Candice Bergen is just so ridiculously engaging to watch. Yes. And she, the fascinating thing about her to me is I was a huge SNL in there growing up and I used to watch all the 70s episodes on Nick at night. And she was one of my favorite hosts, but was, you know, she's very pretty and very funny and very kind of soft. Yeah. And then she's playing this sort of hard-assed, almost unlikable, miserable character. Yeah. Like a PR through role. Right. And was just so good at it. Yeah. And it was crazy to see someone who could do all that stuff. But there was a warmth to it. You know? It was not a show about like a show. Bad people. Yeah. It wasn't like you would get now where I think that we're in a world where characters are very one-dimensional and they're just miserable plot devices. Yes. And they're like you should be, this person should be in jail for being such an awful person. But I also think that the other thing is that we don't get as many great actresses. True. And actors like that are trained in like a lifetime of film and with good directors like coming to TV. Right. That's much anymore. Especially doing comedy. Yeah. Especially doing comedy. I feel like now this would be cast with someone that had been on like 10 sitcoms in a row. Right. And playing for the joke and the like you know last laugh in the scene and you wouldn't get someone who could like give it more life then. Some heart to it. Yeah. And yeah, they had a whole life lived that goes into everything. Yeah. There was an interesting interview with Toby McGuire recently from the Toronto Film Festival where this writer who I think has tried to write a lot about like why are there no young stars anymore? Right. You know, young movie stars. They keep trying franchises on them. Nothing's sticking. No one can really open a movie on their own. And the few you do have are in their 30s. Like you're often coming like your Tom Hardy and people like that are older. And they asked Toby McGuire who was like you know of a time him Leonardo Caprio stuff like that where there were you know 25, 26 year olds that were like international stars. And he made the point that they're like when he's like when we were starting when we were like 15, 16 like what you wanted to do was like you want to be Marlon Brando. Yeah. And you have to do that. You have to be like play the fourth part in a movie. Like Marlon Brando directed by somebody else you know talk about like a boy's life like Leo Caprio like learning to act alongside Robert De Niro like the ice storm or something. Yeah, exactly. Like that was what you wanted as a young actor and he's like now because there are so many so many TV shows period but so many that are like about young people. Any young actor is going to be seduced by as he put it too much responsibility because like why would you take the fourth part in a film for no money when you leave on a CW show. When you have that habits you spend your 20s like getting away with being a terrible actor and you can. You never get better but also if you had a young person on a TV show at this time they would be the only young person on the show as well. So even like a show like Blossom or something. Yeah. You know the older actors on that show were very good sort of veteran actors and you know people complain about the movies that we grew up with where you know you had 30 year old high school students and that kind of stuff but that to that point I think it did make a better caliber of actor because yeah you will watch these CW shows where you don't see anyone interacting over the age of 22 and it's detrimental as you probably do there. And they're all learning bad habits for me. Yeah absolutely. They're going to be bad actors. Like many stand-ups we see. Exactly. Yeah. But love Murphy Brown. Murphy Brown is a great show and I would normally watch it however we have part two of Wild Palms. Oh of course. Yeah. Yeah. I mean I see what you're doing for the whole rest of the week. It's an advanced series. Right here they have a very unusual thing that says for storyline updates call one nine hundred seven seven three wild. Wow. Oh man. I had a nine. This was a huge television event and it was a huge flop. That's really interesting. The guy Bruce Webber, is that the guy's name? Bruce Webber is a dude. I've heard him. I think he's together. Okay. That's a lot like phone numbers to like learn plots like to get TV recap so that he is really incredible. When I was really into text, not text based point and click adventure games as a kid Sierra especially which was funny. Miss was kind of its own thing. It was like more abstract puzzle things. You mean leisure suit Larry. Yeah. I didn't like that one as much but like that same company made a series called Space Quest. Oh yeah. It's a games quest and there are a lot of like games like that at the time CD-ROM based and before that disc base but there used to be one nine hundred tip lines that you could call where like Sierra especially which like had a very similar like inventory based puzzle point and click game. You would pay by the minute but like you then you could keep listening like they wouldn't give it away immediately. They had this whole sizzle done and gets you on there for a while. They do and it would be like how much do you want to click. If we give you one clue be like so you would be like are you what level like what puzzle. You would like you could press one and it would be like you know that seems like that dog is interested in something in the corner. Right. You know press one again and to hear like maybe there's something you can use on the door behind where he's digging press three to have one more and then the fourth was like use the leash on the you know hole in the shovel on the hole to and then I'll dumber you and how much you're going to pay the price. Exactly. But you're like oh I'm fourteen dollars done or whatever but I definitely like remember a couple times. I had a small allowance that I don't think I ever had in cash. It was like my parents just sort of kept how I had to have that a reason like comic books and video games but I remember like being like okay I'm going to time it can I please spend like you look at their permission. Oh yeah yeah I was not like I was not a bad kid. You were watching whatever you wanted but you weren't on the phone with whatever you wanted. Exactly. If it was money they were always like jerks about it so I was like they were correctly like I can't spend a hundred dollars in tip points. I tell the story at stage sometimes but I used to go over this kid's house because he had all the mask toys but he also had more Nintendo games than love masks. I love masks. I still think about like that show often. I can't believe you know what I'm surprised that they haven't tried to make that I know maybe with all the other transformers and kind of like that one felt even more toy-based than a lot. Oh absolutely. Yeah. It had very little plot. There was no cool vehicles they had. They had the helmets. Why did the tires have to turn on their side to lift? That's not on them. Yeah hover crafts don't work that way but so I went over to his house and he was calling this one nine hundred Nintendo tip line where maybe eight or nine. He racked up like four hundred dollars of Nintendo tip line calls and his dad who looked like a sexless Jeff Foxworthy with a mustache and everything. Not like over sex. No just like an asexual Jeff Foxworthy. He didn't know that there were nine hundred numbers that were not pornography based. That's why I was over there and he's looking at the phone bill and he sees nine hundred and four hundred bucks and he flipped out and he came running and just started smacking the kid like in the face and yelling and we had no idea what he was yelling about and somehow this kid figured it out halfway through the beating and starts pointing out the Nintendo and just yelling the word Nintendo which is a dad. But he's nothing. And the dad got even more mad because he thought he was trying to distract him by pointing out that they had a Nintendo like go to me look at the Nintendo and then I just left. It was just the most, but the funniest thing was I started laughing because it was awkward and I didn't know what to do. Because what are you laughing at? And the thing that was funny is while he was smacking him he started yelling goddamn stroke phone. And so that's amazing. What's a stroke phone? And he goes it's a spank line which is even funnier. I was like this is nine hundred and one of the kids don't have that problem. No. I should also mention though that Millennium was on which was oh fine fine. Millennium was a show that I kind of treated like homework a little bit. Like I really liked it. I'm so dark. It's really dark and it's pretty humorless. Yeah. Like X-Files had like some levity through it. For season one it got very funny season two like that episode with the demons. Yeah. Yeah. But I think yeah. Freshly the first. Lance Hendrickson yeah. Yeah. I mean he's a pretty serious guy. Tuesday night eight o'clock what are you going with? Tuesday eight o'clock Full House. Did you watch Full House every week? Yeah. I think Full House. That was a big I mean they weren't in the same block but like Full House step by step. Yeah that's T.J.F. Original T.J.F. Yeah. Yeah. This is when Full House could go on its own so they moved it to Tuesday night. Okay. I didn't know if this is I was trying to remember the timeline if this is post DJI F. This is the last first run episode of the season. This is the season finale Full House. This is the search continues for Disney World's Princess for the day Michelle while Danny gets ready to pop the question to Vicki. This was one of the. Remember Vicki. It was his I think she was his co-hosts after. Okay. On the Squirrell show. On the morning show. Yeah. On the morning show. On the morning show. On the morning show. On the morning show. On the morning show. On the morning show. On the morning show. And this was when Disney had bought NBC and they did just shameless promotion of Disney. Oh okay. So this was one of the theme nights. On what Disney's doing with Star Wars one. Exactly. Yeah. But they would do whole theme nights where all the cast of every episode of this show tonight goes to Disney World. Yeah. And so this was like a two week long version of that and it was even as a kid I was thirteen times. It was a little bit older than you. But I would just be like come on. Like it was so blatantly obvious and terrible. I would have gone with Rescue 911 any day of the week. I still think that really liked Rescue 911. I don't understand aside from being mean spirited why that's not a thing now because 911 calls their public record. Yeah. If we did a drunk history type thing with bad actors re-enacting. That's really good. It would be hilarious. Yeah. And that's what all this was but it was so serious with Shather. You should fix that show. That's really funny. Any day of the week. Make that show okay. Let's do it. I'll make it right now. I'll pitch it. 'Cause this episode is a man who was bitten by a snake in Australia, a power mower mishap in Montana, a Houston youngster who had a serious heart problem and a pregnant woman in a Connecticut who went into labor at home during a blizzard. Wow. And all of them you knew they would never air stuff where people died. Yeah. They're always triumphant ones. Do they have interviews with the actual people that they are? Sometimes they- Were they all re-enactments? Everything's with the real cause. With the real cause. And they were almost always southern. So there was just some kid would blow his hand off and be like, "I'll bloop my hand off!" How's that? A true TV show or something like that. I know. I don't know. Yeah. It would be fantastic. Or a web series or something. You're dying of something. It's all public record. It's free. You don't have to pay people anything. So normally I would have watched that but I will mention Robocop 2 is on my favorite of the Robocop films. Really. Tom Noonan. Terrifying. It also introduces the drug nuke. Yeah. A 14-edge drug dealer. Sure. Fantastic. So 830 what are you going with? 930. Oh 930. I'm sorry. Yeah. I did not watch all the show but I'm so excited for it. Oh no 830. You're just watching Full House for half hour. Oh sorry. I'm looking at the wrong- Oh we skipped over Bob. We never talked about Bob. I don't think at 930 on Monday. Oh yes. Or is Murphy Brown an hour? Murphy Brown was only half an hour. Yeah. You're right. Yeah. Bob. Yeah. 930 on Monday. Bob Newhart. Bob Newhart. Where he's a coach? He's a coach. I'm on TV a bit. Yep. I liked what I'd seen. And Matt Dahl and like that he was a comic creator. You talked about, we talked off Mike that Rob Leefield was on that. Yeah. Who is at the height of this image? Oh my gosh. Comics first started. And this was Young Blood. Yeah. This was when comics were at their biggest mainstream hit at this time. Yeah. Tom McFarland was buying every mark-a-wire home on ball. Yeah. Everything. It was, you know, an image just started. It was all sort of the wake of the first Batman movie. Yeah. It was just this wave and then it crashed about a year later. Yeah. Right of it. So I loved Newhart. The show Newhart was my favorite sitcom in the 80s. Oh wow. And so I was like comic books and I had a superhero term weekly. So I had like had known about this since it started. And then it's not that great. And I think that what people say the problem is, and with Bob Newhart's show after this George and Leo, was that he has kids, whenever he has kids, if to just for some reason the dynamic doesn't work, I don't know why. And so also Jack Kirby was in a couple episodes, which I was psyched about because I loved Jack Kirby and seeing anything was great. And so this one is, it's a dog fight, a ruthless new publisher threatens to terminate Mad Dog. So they reworked this for the second season and it wasn't quite as good. But yeah, I definitely watched Bob every week. So sorry, that's Tuesday 30th hang with Mr. Cooper. I love that show. I could never get into it. And I don't know why. I really like Mark Curry. Mark Curry, maybe, maybe he's Mark, I liked Holly Robinson because I was a big 21 jump stream. Yeah. But Mark Curry, I stand up, I enjoyed, but I just couldn't get into the show. I understand. I think it was just teacher shows, there's too many of them at this time. Yeah, there were a lot. You had the tail end of head of the class, you had Drexel's class, you had Mr. Rhodes the year after this. Oh wow, Mr. Rhodes, that's right. I like Mr. Rhodes. Mr. Rhodes was alright. Yeah. This one is Robin Vanessa and Mark put on a show for Mark's visiting Granny, who's thinking that Mark still plays in the NBA. I always forget he was an ex-NBA player. Yeah. Why? Why? That seemed like such a weird thing to even put in there. I would have to go back, but I bet that's how they sold the show. They got like some memoir of some of my NBA guy that had like five interesting stories about him becoming a teacher. I just pictured some racist exec being like, "Wait a minute, how is this black guy a teacher?" Yeah. And they're like, "Well, he was in the NBA." That makes sense. And that might work. Yeah, yeah. So I would have done a comics only, which was Paul Provenza's Comedy Central show. I almost wrote that down. I loved comics only. I loved it. That's why Ken Over was an episode. Ken Over was in an episode, but this is what Gene Garafel on this show. You know what? I've got comics only on Wednesday, 8/3. Yeah. The Ken Over one is really good. Yeah. Yeah. But this is the Gene Garafel one. And this is how I heard about a lot of comics that say my favorite comics. I loved comics only. It was great. Fred Wolf. Fred Wolf was the writer and outside. The real dirty work. Oh, I didn't realize he wrote that. Yeah. He's in it as well. And he did some really weird sketches on that show. Yeah. He was very strange. He was like, "He looked like a guy that like you shouldn't be on TV." You're a writer. Yeah. Yeah. And I always, for a time, the guy who produced the Ninja Turtles cartoon was named Fred Wolf. Yeah. Totally. I would just be like, "Is that the same guy?" I would see that name. Yeah. He's so talented to get everything. One of the weirdest jokes I remember him doing on that show is he did a sketch called Bad Day Worst Day. And it was Bad Day Blood in My Yearnd. Worst Day. Corn in My Yearnd. I distinctly remember that show. Oh, man. It was great. It was just interview comics. It was almost like, you know, what Marin does at WTF or any of the things that-- What prevents us still doing at the great rooms. Yeah. And he's been doing it for so long, and it was a refreshing thing that they weren't just doing material. Yeah. It was a great show, and it would have been a great season. And Garaffa was one of my favorites. I also loved-- I wasn't a big, like, old comedy fan in the sense of, like, I was never into old comedy album, so I was never, like, nuts for, you know, like, Eddie Murphy Raw, Richard Pryor. Yeah, it was never into that, but I loved Inside the Comedy Mind with Alan King. Yes. I think it was really terrifying to me, though, too, because he was in Cat's Eye as a mob boss. Oh, OK. And I've heard terrifying stories about him stealing people's material. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, all of these older guys seem like nightmares. Yeah. But I did watch that show all the time. And I watched Night After Night with Alan Havey all the time. Oh, you ever saw that? That was great. They did a really weird thing called an audience of one. So every show just had one audience member. And they'd have people waiting to get in, but just be one audience member. So it was like a talk show, which is one guy in the audience. I think Zach-- Zach, Alan Havey showed that that one. Yes. One, I think. Yeah, yeah. So where? Nine o'clock Tuesday night. Roseanne. No question about it. Yeah. Roseanne is-- the show's both perfect. So good. They're so good. Another timeless show. Yeah. And weirdly, though, given your sort of aversion-- I know. --skiby show. I was thinking about it when I said it. That was a very skeby show. And there were certainly things on that show that like-- but I think they were-- like, I didn't like the skeviness combined with-- like, they were children. You weren't sure if they all liked each other. Well, it's cartoonish. Yeah. And like, Roseanne, they all-- there was like such love in the family that even when they were like, you know, super snipey or upset or like troubled by stuff, it like-- I always felt like a rooted in a family. Didn't feel like. Yeah. Marriage children, even though that show was like ahead of its time in certain ways, like felt like a lot of actors paid to be mean to each other. Yeah. Absolutely. It was very one dimension-- a cartoonish. And I think I've called it on the show here, a poor face or a poverty minstrel show. Yeah, it's totally. Yeah. Roseanne, yeah, it was a gallows humor. It was something that they were-- they were coping with. It was something like Hill Simon or something like that, you know, where you like, you're finding the humor in like, the way that these difficult situations like bring families together. And they would always stick up for each other when outsiders came back totally. Yes, totally. Marriage children, it was like, oh, you also hate my wife? I'm your friend. But this one was like, only I can say that thing about my daughter. Absolutely. Which was much more realistic. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, no one can say it in marriage children wasn't successful, but personally for me. It's like the line between-- I agree. 100% agree. And also speaking, comics at this time, this was the time where Darlene started getting into vertigo comics, and when I was saying posters in a room, I wanted to write comics. Oh, man. So I was like, this is so for me. I'm so into this. Totally. Great episode. I definitely would have watched this show. 9/30, tough one. Home improvement. I went home improvement. See, home improvement I couldn't do. Oh, man. I loved home improvement. It's funny. I had like seen-- I guess I hadn't seen it as well after home improvement started, but I like loved Tim Allen special. See, I couldn't get into Tim Allen. There was something-- you know, my parents had like a contracting and architecture company. We've always like worked on houses and renovating my dad, like we always like was missing a door because of the way-- So this is the show you can identify with? Yes. I think this more than others is a show of like-- I mean, my mom and dad were not like Tim Allen and his wife, but-- But you were like JTT? I was a lot like JTT. There was also-- and this is a funny thing that my friend-- who I think you remember Abe Smith. Oh, yeah. Abe was great. And I used to joke about, but there we had like after we finished like renovating the house that I lived in Massachusetts for like we just worked on it for years and years. We had a guest room and I had I think given my mom or dad don't stand too close to a naked man for one of their birthdays, but it was like a clear little kid I want to read this book. You know, like we've watched home improvement together, so I'll give you this book that Tim Allen wrote. One step above getting something from this scholastic book club. Exactly. So it's like, but really this is coming back to me and also I'm sure I'm spending your money for it. And that book was like on some weird bookshelf somewhere. I certainly read it and was like into it. For whatever reason, when they like renovated this room and we had a guest room, they're like very sparse decorators. I wouldn't say like modern, but just in a sense of like my dad was kind of OCD. So it was like, you know, just clean, empty, like there's a bureau and there's a lot of stuff. Yeah, until like having crap everywhere, you know, in like his decorating specifically. So this guest room had nothing. I had like two night tables with two lamps, you know, a desk and in the bathroom. There was like no ephemera except on the night table, they had decorated, don't stand too close to a naked man. It was like the only, you know, the only piece of like, I don't know, pop culture, decoration, anything. You walked into this basically hotel room. It's like a Gideon Bible. And we always used to joke that Abe, because he would often like, we would come up and do the studio from college and then stay at my parent's house. They were often like away on the weekend, and even if they weren't. But like, you know, we'd be like, yeah, we'll like have drinks in Cambridge, dry back before we get too drunk and hang out at the house and then like stay there. And he, yeah, he used to joke that like as if that book was like the talking point you needed to be prepared for like, get here's the book, get ready at breakfast. There's going to be a lot of questions about if you have a stick next to a naked man because you shouldn't hit. You should, if you. What is this tool need? More power. Exactly. So if you get even more wildly successful in comedy, and as you go around the country, yeah, with your wealth, yeah, you have to replace all the Gideon Bibles with that book. Just buy a pallet of that book and just swap them to hotels, have them wait for now. I have, I mean, not that specifically because I haven't thought of it. It's a great idea. And I want to do it. I want to have money, mostly for expensive pranks. Yeah. I'm not a big prank guy, but just being able to like buy a ridiculous thing that you give to someone that they can't use, but it's just like really unwieldy forced on them is such a funny thing. And they have to feel obligated to try to use it. Exactly. Yeah. I wrote a script once about a guy that had won the lottery and was independently wealthy. And he would just travel around the country taking menial jobs so that he could quit them in a big way. So like the things everyone always wanted to do, but just for fun. So like, you know, take a job in a diner so he could like dump coffee on somebody and be like, oh, I'm fucking rich. That's really great. I like that. That's what I would do, I think. I would not have watched that. I could not watch that. I'm surprised you passed up the Italian-American sports hall of fame dinner, which was... It sounded very boring. Which was taped in Cranston, Rhode Island, by the way, on ESPN. But I would have gone with kids in the hall. Absolutely. Yeah. I think I'd have already had those all on tape or whatever. I would just re-watch them over and over and over again. Wednesday night, 8 o'clock, what are you going with? So I don't think I watched this at the time, but I was always fascinated by him and loved Phil Hartman's parody of him on news radio, but Mark Russell had a special Wednesday at 8 o'clock. Mark Russell was the political piano playing parody guy right now. Like, you know, fat hats and fat or all that stuff. That government. Yeah, I think you would just change the words and be like, "The deficit," and Phil Hartman did the amazing news radio episode where he just pulled a piano into the lobby of the radio station and just did terrible, terrible Mark Russell style political parodies that were just chords and, you know, chords about the government. Are there any political or otherwise, but just like parody songs about current events that aren't terrible? No. I think that's-- Especially not in today's day and age because like the only people that do them professionally are people that like do them for like those YouTube subscriber based channels, like barely political and stuff that, you know, it's not their fault, really, because I mean their talented-- People watch it. But it's like the way they have to get people to watch it is by like, you know, being cheese ball and it being like a parody of like a song and having a hot girl in it. Like it needs to hit. It's a lady that got something about Obama. Totally, and the screenshot is a girl in a bikini and like they have to hit all these things to like make their numbers and make money, but it just means that there's nothing like-- It's the-- Subtle or interesting about it. It's the modern day morning zoo crew parody song radio. Yes, exactly. With like a video production budget and social media, intern or whatever. Oof. I would not have watched that, but I do appreciate the fact that you picked up on it because it says the political satirist comments on congressional gridlock, the FBI, gays in the military, and the Republicans' response to President Clinton's economic plan, songs include "Let It Be" and "J Edgar Hoover." I would love to see go back and see what his gaze in the military song is. I'm guessing it's the J Edgar Hoover song. Yes. It has to be, right? Yeah, it has to be. Oh man. We'll have to check this out. It's got to be on YouTube. Yeah. No, normally I would have gone to insult mysteries on a Wednesday night. Love don't insult mysteries. Not as funny as "Rescue 911" and in fact terrified me most of the time. This was the expanded season ender. It's a two-hour episode, includes four bank robbery stories, a New York woman searched for the foster parents who cared for her briefly during childhood, which was always a bum out, not pretty exciting, a navy blimp that landed reportedly without a crew in the San Francisco Bay during World War II and reports of a Columbus, Ohio girl's unusual brainwave activity. Wow. That's a lot there. Yeah. Looking at most things. Did I insult mysteries? I might be complaining at my head. Did it? I know it wasn't America's most wanted, but did they ever call for information? 1-800-876-53. So there was. They did like that. They sort of had a bit of an open-ended like, as you know about this, have you seen this person? Do you know anything? Because sometimes people like disappeared people. A lot of it would be. Yeah. They would always say "please call" and then they would have updates. Update. Unsolved mysteries. Unsolved mysteries 1-800-876-5545. That number was still active up until last year. Wow. Yeah. I think this is a series that's updated the things. So normally I would have watched that, but there's a special one tonight called Brady Mania. Oh. This was never a Brady head. I wasn't. I watched it all the time. I loved the movies. Yeah. That was so great. And this was sort of an anticipation of the movie. So this was Florence Henderson, who hosts a reminiscence about the Brady Bunch, and examines a serious impact on American culture, including scenes from the Brady Bunch Song and Dance Act, TV movies and the real-life Brady Bunch stage show, guest appearances by Davy Jones and Joe Nameth. Now, the stage show is how, what was her name, she was a cast member in SNL the year after this? Chan Hook. Not Chan Hooks. It was like '94. She was only in the one season, oh my, Melanie Hudson. She only got on SNL because she was, they did a really interesting thing in New York at the time, where they would take scripts from Brady Bunch episodes and just do them live. Oh. And then that became a little bit of a thing in the '90s, people were getting these scripts and people who were short and introverted. When I first went to New York, the big thing at UCB was point break live or whatever. Right. And this started that. So you did this pretty many, it was like an off-Broadway thing, that became a huge phenomenon. And Melanie Hudson played Jan Brady on it, which is where I learned Michael Sarger and cast her based on that alone. Wow. Which is why... She's the last one. Last season. I remember, I had this very, you know how embarrassing memories can cut through all the fog of time and just you can always like quantum leap back into that moment and feel like exactly how the, like, where your hands were and the one is that, and I don't think my parents even judged me for it. I just remember like, I was a weird kid, I was probably, this is before this, this was like probably, I was like six or seven, and I remember just saying at the dinner table once, like, I never like pees as a kid, like, friend pees was not my thing, but I remember like kind of forcing myself to eat them and telling my parents like, oh, I, you know, it's funny. Things are changed for me. Like, I'm into peas now and I also like the Brady Bunch because I've been forcing myself to watch the Brady Bunch to be like, I should be watching this, like, yeah, like, I don't, everyone outlights this and I know I don't, but I just need to sit here and take it or whatever. I was like trying to already advertise that to my parents and they were like, what are you talking about? If you write your version of Never Stand Next or Naked Man, it has to be called peas in the Brady Bunch. It's in the Brady Bunch. Things are changing, yeah. My father's younger brother, when they were growing up, they had like, in the fifties, they had like a very fifties style kitchen diner table, and he unbeknownst to them would unscrew the end of the leg of the table and put all his peas in there. So he didn't have to eat them. Yeah. And about 10 years later, they were moving their mother and my dad picked up the table and had like a rattling in it and he unscrewed it and there was just dried peas, years of dried peas, years of dried peas, and I was like, world war two hoarding dried peas. Now, there's an interesting thing on at nine o'clock here on Wednesday night that I don't know if you picked up on. Oh, we did 8.30. I think the Mark Russell shows only have. Oh, okay. We only did eight points only. So we already talked about that. Yeah. Okay. And this is the episode with Ken over of Remote Control, which is one of my favorite things MTV ever aired. Also, he's from Massachusetts. Yeah. And it was a great stand-up. Yeah. A lot of people didn't even know he wasn't stand-up. Yeah. It was odd. There also, I should say, on Comedy Central at eight o'clock, there was a show called "Women Allowed" that was sort of like, convex only, but interviewing women actresses. Was that? Yes. Yes. And I remember that show. And the guest is Ann Magnuson, who I love. Oh, I don't know. I have a huge crush on her. Okay. She was an actress. She was in bands. She was in, like, the punk rock scene in New York in the '80s. Okay. She's in the movie "Making Mr. Right." Okay. And she's also in "Cabin Boy." She plays the green lady that-- Oh, okay. --cuz I hate it loses his virginity too. Yeah. She was also played "Lilene Munster" in "The Munsters Revival." Wow. She's done all kinds of work stuff. Yeah. But I'm sort of intrigued by her. So nine o'clock, what are you going with? I love that show. Okay. I love that show. You love that show? Did you watch the original Kung Fu? No. No. It's a martial arts and anything. It's almost like next generation. I was just like, you know, I love modernity. I mean, I liked him as an actor, but that character was so specifically like not a dynamic character. So what she undercover was like, you know. He's going to stand out. Yeah. He was kind of like a, you know, a slightly racist Buddhist character whenever. And also there's a character in this episode named "Droney." I hit it's time. Yeah. So you passed up a special home improvement with Bob Vila. Oh. At 9 p.m.? So like Bob Vila show too. It's a one-hour home improvement with Bob Vila. I was on a plane with Bob Vila the same week a roommate of mine was on jury duty with him. Oh, wow. Bob Vila. Not the foreman. Very angry. I think I got so excited by Kung Fu the Legend continues that I missed that there was a home improvement. I think I would have watched a movie called "When Love Kills the Seduction of John Hearn." Oh, yeah. That was pretty good. It's our Gary Cole, Mark Heldenberger, Julie Harris. I would have Steven Toblowski. Yeah, that's a great cast. It would have watched that. Gary Cole. So you're watching that for the hour. So we're on to Thursday night, 8 o'clock. What are you going with? I mean, it's the Seinfeld season finale. It is. Yeah. And this is when Seinfeld really started to take off the first two seasons. We're kind of languished a little bit. Yeah. And this is the big season finale of Seinfeld. This is probably the first season I watched. I don't think I didn't watch from day one. I think I started to get into Thursday like NBC's Thursday night programming like this year, the year before. And I think a lot of people did as well. This was also the night where we had the final cheers on later. So this is a big, big night on NBC Thursday. This is the conclusion of the pilot. So this is when they make the Seinfeld pilot on Seinfeld. Yes. Only the third season, really? It might have been the fourth season. Okay. But I think it was the third season. Because I remember really enjoying that show. It was a mid-season replacement the first year. It was actually on up against Get A Life and got slaughtered by Get A Life. Okay. First year. And there was the first episode. So very funny. I bet Chris Elliott brings that up in interviews. I'm sure he does. Yeah. There was a really funny episode where Jerry goes on a rant about how people that had ponies were jerks and this old lady that's at the dinner table with them. Si had a pony. And I remember that was very different to see a show like that. Yeah. Yeah. So this is a great episode. And I definitely will watch it. It's a one-hour episode. And this is one I think I actually, of all this stuff, specifically watched live. Like, I remember watching this finale. It was an event. Absolutely an event. And it sort of also kicked off the summer. Yeah. It's a little bit of a... Yeah, kick off the summer. Arrived at the school year. Yeah. So I definitely would have watched that. And then at nine o'clock I'm assuming you went with the cheers for now? So I was never... I got into cheers later in repeats. Yeah. It was too old. It was. And like the, you know, Sam being a cad and like drunk bar flies and like the aerodyte. You know, Fraser Crane. Like, it was all a little bit like too much for me. Yeah. There's nothing you could lock into. I mean like I loved Woody. Yeah. And... Did you always gravitate to the dumb character and stuff for just as a kid? I think as a kid I did, you know, like I mean... Which is normal. Yeah. I was like Homer's the funniest. Woody's the funniest. I think coach, you know, in a not coaching coach, but coaching... Coaching cheers. Yeah. Has anyone done a coach first coach? Or put Craig T. Nelson in cheers episodes? I think that was like the easiest humor to get because like... It's broad. Yeah. It's broad. I could like understand a dumb character understanding like why, you know, Diane's neuroses are funny. That's also the most out of place character in that world. Yes. So easy to... Or in order to one most likely to pop up in mind or like go Simpsons-esque or whatever. I don't know. Yeah. I could see that. But I... This was like, you know, this wasn't enough in events that even though I hadn't liked. You couldn't live in Massachusetts in 1993 this day and not... I think legally not watch the chase finale. Yeah. It was everybody. I mean they put it on bars like a sporting event. Yeah. People hadn't had parties. It was like a huge... They had live news coverage all day and after it all night. Yeah. It was crazy. It was... I can't think of a bigger event on television for a local city. Then this thing. I don't think we've had that since. Don't it be fair? I don't know that we've had a bigger television event. National. I mean like... No. The Cheers finale... I mean I don't think the Cymbloh finale was as what. I mean TV just changed around this time. Yeah. This was the tail end of the three networks kind of thing where everybody watched the show. And now it's so fractured that I don't think there's a show big enough. No. At least a narrative show. You know, maybe one of the competition shows or something. Right. Or maybe. Maybe more. There's too many like... There's no event television that everybody gets together in a public place and watches. Yeah. I mean the ones I remember... I watched the Cymbloh finale like... Yeah. There was like... Again I didn't live at my high school but like a lot of kids did and they weren't allowed to watch TV from, you know, at study hall 8 to 10 or whatever. That's what was one of the best things about living at home. It was like you guys have to do homework in your rooms. Did kids come to you and go tell me about what was on Max? Yeah. We would watch... We'd always watch Jeopardy together in like the common room at like 7.30. And then they would all have to go to their rooms and have a gig to have. See ya. I'm gonna go watch shows on a TiVo without commercials. Enjoy. But I remember there was like a special dispensation made for the Cymbloh finale. It was like... This is so important. That's like... You can't miss this. And I went to school and like watched it like in the dorm. You would never have that. Yeah. Oh my god. I mean we had... I remember they pulled us a lot of class and we watched the OJ verdict. Yeah. But I don't think you would do that now. I don't think they would watch... Yeah. A dispensation to watch any television series that was not like a news event. I think the first survivor similarly in my high school had the finale of that. Like that might have just been a thing in my school because it got really into it. Well the winner was from Rhode Island so people just were like New England. Yeah. I guess so. But yeah, people went really nuts in mine. I think there was betting involved. They cast that show out of the NBC affiliate I worked at at the time. And I had to work the front desk for the casting. So like everyone that made it on there through New England came through when I... That was so early reality television. That was the first big competition show. Yeah. Absolutely. Yeah. That was I think summer of 2000. It was just big. So yeah, that's the whole night to Cheers Finale was just massive. And the final night of the week, Friday night, eight o'clock. What are you going with? Oh man. Run away. Tom Selleck. Tom Selleck is finest role. I don't think I ever rented this one video. And I certainly never saw it in theater. But this was a movie that I think was on... It was on HBO cable all the time. I feel like I used to. We never had HBO when I was a kid. But I would often babysit for these neighbors who then moved a little bit of a wet way. But they had all the channels and they had like a young baby and paid me too much money. Right. They basically come over with the kid. For a half an hour. Yeah. They can't be in bed. And I would just like get delivery and watch HBO. I did the same thing. They were home. And I feel like Runaway was a movie that I watched multiple times. Oh yeah. I have such like memories of like them stealing like a circuit board or something. And the like spider. You know. The acid spitting spiders. It like it's in like a building on a construct. Like I feel like it's in a metal steel beams stuff. It's like the finale. It stars Tom Selleck. Yeah. Mrs. Richard Marks. His partner is Richard Marks' wife. Yeah. Kirstie Alley of Cheers. Yeah. Which incidentally is probably why they were ended on the Friday nights. Yeah. The Cheers. She was such a babe in Runaway. She has that scene where they strip her down to her underwear to see if she has bugs on her. And the villain is Gene Simmons. That's right. I probably didn't put that together. He was trying to act. I think this is probably the closest to the real Gene Simmons we're ever going to see. Just turn it around away. You can keep seeking bullets. Tom Selleck's one of those guys that people forget was such a huge star on television. Yeah. They tried to get him to be a movie star over and over and over again. Yeah. Just failed miserably every single time. But this is a cool movie and Michael Crichton wrote it. Really? Was it a most risky road? I don't think it was a book. Let's see what TV God says about the star system of Runaway in the back of the magazine here. Doesn't even warrant review. Damn. Weirdly. I mean, it's Tom Selleck. You know, it's like one of the pitfalls of being in like an incredibly successful TV show. You know, you can't like three years into it is when you like want to get out into movies. And that's when it's at its height. Yeah. And then they don't let you out. You know, and he famously like couldn't get out of Magnet P.I. for Indiana Jones. Right. That Raiders lost Ark. So we did quickly down on that. Yeah. That worked. Yeah. But he, but then once you've been on it seven years, you're too much that character. Right. So like, unless you, you know, can sort of nimbly pull off a George Clooney or something like you really, it's like an even George Clooney. I mean, yeah. But he was still like a show that was on at 10 o'clock and not on every day. Like, Magnet P.I. was. Yeah. People were okay with it. And he was not. It was an ensemble. Yes. You know, as much as he was the title. The title character. No, no, no. Yeah. And they, all right. I did find. Julian Hartley's probably had more of a problem because she was the more like, you know, perspective character of that show. Right. That was like in everyone's like mine. She was the go-to character. Yeah. And most people probably forgot her from out for Justice. It's like a movie which is set where we are right now. Really? Yeah. Have you ever seen it? No. I mean, actually, probably as a kid. He plays the next Brooklyn cop who's trying to find Richie. Oh man. There's a scene. I walked right by. He's actually walking by the train, the elevated train here yelling, "Anybody see Richie?" Right. In this neighborhood. That's amazing. Julianna Margolis is a prostitute. This is a quick recommendation. I love 70 style adult thrillers. They make enough of them anymore. Like movie star driven, you know, non-world ending. Right. You know, action suspense movies. Heist movies. Yeah. I'll walk among the tombstones. It's good. Very good. And better than a lot of Les Mises like recent. Okay. Like that sort of movie. It's just so weird that he's an action hero now. Yeah. But it's also takes place in 1999 in Brooklyn. And it just, it's all a shock here. And it just has a really like gritty, like, pre-cell phone. John Freckenheimer. Red Hooks kind of gross and like a lot of weird stuffs happening. Like now like Brooklyn has such a reputation and a sheen and everything else. Right. But the movie, even though it was made this year, like has a great old. Oh, you got to see it. You got to see it. Oh for justice. That's great. It's fantastic. And I bet it was films here too. Oh yeah. So they say about Runaway, which I would have also watched. I love this movie. My dad loved this movie. Futuristic cop Tom Selleck stoically defends a city from haywire robots in this high tech thriller from Michael Creighton, who they credit as Westworld. Yeah. This is my old Jurassic Park. Right. Oh, Jurassic Park was just here. Kirstie Alley, Cynthia Rhodes, who later went on to Mary, Richard Marks. And of course Jean Simmons. Great movie. Absolutely. Now Max, as you know, Tiga Guide is not just informative. It has opinions and it cheers and it cheers. So I'd like to read you the cheers and cheers from this week of television and see if you agree or disagree. It's a split week. There's two cheers. Two cheers. Okay. I would have thought they would have gotten gimmicky. Done four cheers since the final cheers. All cheers. So cheers to NBC's Seinfeld for teaching us a lot of uptight, Madison Avenue types that it's possible to handle a touchy subject with taste and humor with the episode, the contest and then they get into why that's great. Yeah. I agree with that wholeheartedly. Yeah. Cheers to anybody who actually I have a specific memory of that episode or an end of conversation around it, but also as like a teenager being like, it's never occurred to me. To go for more than a day without Mascara. You know, like it was like, it was such a foreign... You're not wired for that. Yeah. I was like, why would you try? Yeah. Why would you do that? You do the op. That's like the I'm homesick how many times can you? Is it possible to get dry use? Exactly. Slough my skin off. Yeah, exactly. Cheers to anybody who isn't Regis Arcathy Lee. It'd be great if that was just the whole thing, but it says, who tries to co-host their live show. So unique is the balance between the stars that if one of them is gone and someone else climbs on the stool, it throws the whole show out of whack. You put Philpin's wife, Joy and Kathy Lee's share or Dana Fleming and Reg Ego usually tempt up by different psychic whip. Just goes ballistic. You put Dana Carvey or Heaven help us Henry Winkler up there and Miss Personality's Adorability goes on the cute o-meter. It's funny that that show is now hosted by two different people. Well, that's what I mean. I'm going to agree with that, Cheers, at the time it was written. I loved Regis and Kelly, and I love them together. I will say that I think... Hoda and Kathy Lee? I like Hoda, that's the thing. I like Hoda and Kathy Lee a ton, and I also like Kelly Ripa and Michael Strahan. I think they're a really funny, weird pair, and he's so strange and they're... It's a weird show. It's a weird show. Like I sometimes hold catch it on CAB TV because it'll show a little bit of CABs, and I think once without sound, I just saw they were interviewing Kevin James and suddenly he was on the ground. Michael Strahan in his, you know, you know, tailored $2,000 to Indian leg wrestling and Kevin James on the floor of the show, and I was like, "This is great, this is television that they're making, you know, four days a week running." Also Heaven help us Henry Winkler. It needs to be the name of something. Like a new Judy Blanbroke. Cheers to yet another movie award show, but one that promises to substitute Cheeky off the wall fun for the sanctimonious chap trap, chap trap, okay, that usually hovers over such festivities. We're talking about the 1993 MT Movie Awards, and then they complain about the MT Movie Awards. I'm going to disagree with this one for a while, I mean I think so much fun history was made at the Movie Awards. Unfortunately, I think the needle has swung back and I'm going to have to, as of right this moment, agree with the jeers. I agree, I agree. And finally, jeers to max out ESPN's new daily showcase of extreme athletics for being extremely lame imitation of MTV sports. I want to agree with that. I would as well. I would also cheer MTV sports just, I mean I love just Burger King commercials. Tink or test. Tink or test. I love this place. Max Alastry, thank you so much for doing this show. Thanks for having me, Ken, this is a great one. That was Max Alastry, I didn't lie to you at all in the opening, it was all very interesting and fun and weird, and he's a great guy, funny guy, interesting guy. So as always, please email me at can@icandread.com or tvguidenscounselor@gmail.com. You can find Max@maxalvestry.com. I will put all the links to all his social media things up on tvguidenscounselor.com. Go to our Facebook page, like us. 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