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TV Guidance Counselor

TV Guidance Counselor Episode 56: Will Noonan

Duration:
1h 13m
Broadcast on:
04 Feb 2015
Audio Format:
other

July 31 - August 6, 1993

In this episode Ken welcomes fellow Boston Comedian and social media exploitation king Will Noonan.

Ken and Will discuss Patrick Stewart, The Real World, Tammy's "Wasn't Not Funny", Bloopers and Practical Jokes, SNICK, COPS, being a hypochondriac, what it means when you are peeing all the time, Alfonso Robero's Globe of Death, MTV Sports, House of Style, comedian nick names, The Comish, Doing the rubber, America's Funniest Home Videos, FOX, Idalis, Herman's Head, lusting after Reba McIntire's Doritos, Blossom, George Bush, Laugh-In, Cynthia Rothrock, parents intervening during inappropriate viewing material, Problem Child, Christmas in August, Rescue 911, Nova, getting that tingle, DIC, Roseanne, Third Rusty, Coach, Wonder Years, Unsolved Mysteries making you shit out your own ghost, the original Comedy Central, Home Improvement, Hal Hartley, Thursday Nights are unstoppable, David Crosby, Summer School, TV38's Movie Loft, which Brother from Wings you are, Don "the Dragon" Wilson, TV Guide's hatred of Martial Arts movies, Down the Shore, Urkel, Night Court, Step by Step, Brooklyn Bridge, Stacey Keenan's dangerous prank phone calls, Perfect Strangers money, Cherry 2000, Pay-per-view study guides, and when Micky Mouse met Charlie Brown. 

 

[music] Hello and welcome to Wednesday, or something to call a TV guidance counselor day. I think I'm the only person who calls it that. But welcome to you. Thanks for listening to this episode of TV guidance counselor. My guest this, wow, I said that with a real Boston accent, didn't I, TV guidance counselor? The longer I live in Boston, again, the worse my accent seems to get, despite my best efforts. But speaking of Boston accents, my guest this week is a fellow Boston comedian, Mr. Will Noonan, who you may know from willnoon.com. Will is very, very prolific on the social media. Vine, I don't know what that is, but I hear he is very popular on it. He also has a podcast himself called Hypothetically with Will Noonan. And you can find out about that on willnoonan.com. He has plenty of links to all his social media on there. I also know Will from my pre-comedy days. He used to hang around with my sister. I don't remember this, but I think he does. And I'm fairly certain I was also a complete jerk to him as a teenager. I had to give my sister's friends rides often and I was not happy about it. So it's very possible. It doesn't come up in this episode, but it did occur to me later. So anyway, it's a fun one. There's some good Boston talk in here. I think you'll enjoy it. So please listen to this week's episode with my guest, Will Noonan. Will Noonan, how are you, sir? Good, how you doing, sir? I'm doing all right. Welcome to my home. It's great. It's a great home. Oh, thank you. It has a roof and everything. It's really nice. When I like drove up, I expected you to just live in a comic book store. In a comic book store? It's not that far off and the inside. No, but it looks, you know, this looks like a respectable home out of family that I live in. Well, that's my wife gets a lot of credit for that. So you've chosen a TV guide from July 31st to August 6th, 1993. And I probably already know the answer to this, but what drew to this particular interview? There's a photo of Patrick Stewart on the front where I don't, I find it hard to believe people thought he was straight based on this photo. I always assumed he was gay. I was actually shocked when I found out recently that he was like married, like long time married guy. He has a really, there's a very bad, I don't know if I call it a pun, but it's Patrick Stewart that says the track continues. That is a pun, that's a bad one. Patrick Stewart Picard lets his hair down. Oh my God. See, it's funny because he has, he has no hair. But were you a Star Trek fan? Or are you just like Patrick Stewart? I'm a Star Trek, especially next generation fan. Okay. And I thought it was cool that they had put him in a maroon shirt, but he's not like, he's wearing a shirt that's exactly the same color as his costume, right? He's also wearing a modern day, our modern day wristwatch. Like I said, our modern day wristwatch, not like the federation of the future. So you enjoyed how the past met the future in this photograph? I mean, I know that is how the, that is the future. Right. It's absolutely, and there's more historical in it. There's pretty much no question that's what the future will be exactly like. I think that that everyone. Including Jean-Luc Picard. Yeah, I think that regardless of political stance, the left and right, both agree that Star Trek's next generation is probably the most accurate vision of the future. Absolutely. Just research going on. No fighting. Yeah, no fighting search. But there was some fighting. But that was only with bad Klingons. And Borg. And Borg and Romulans. So that sounds like there's a lot of fighting here. There's a lot of fighting on every episode. But not a lot of loving, like the original series. Not enough. A lot of loving. So let's get right into it. Let's start Saturday night, July 31st, last day of July, 1993. It's the summer. It's probably hot out. Hot out. What do you go with at eight o'clock? I'm going with the real world. The real world. So 93, let me double check here. It doesn't tell us which real world it is. But I think 93 was San Francisco. I was thinking that the Pedro year. It had to be Pedro. Pedro. Pedro. With Pedro Zamora. With Pedro Zamora. May you rest in peace. So you were a big real world fan. Oh, I was. This is right. I'm trying in 93. I'm 11 years old. Okay. And my sister would be 18. So she was into the real world. Into the real world. My brother was like 16. So I got two teens. I suspect your sister may have sent in an audition tape for the real world. Probably probably. You know, she's into that. This is when the real world was actually good. It was before everyone was just like a dog dude and a whore. It's funny. The joke was that is not like the real world man. But kids living in an awesome line. Right. Everyone used to make fun of them. But when you looked at it, it was still like people who were like number Judd from the. Oh, yeah. Judd's Judd Winnick. He's a big comic book writer now. He was like just a regular guy that anyone would know. Yeah. Like still married to Pam. Still married to Pam. And Pam was another perfect example of just an average. Well, she was a doctor. Yeah. But but that's sort of in the grand scheme. I guess. Yeah. I mean, she wasn't like a bikini model. Yeah. I know. Whatever the hell. Nowadays, everyone's like trying to just. Nowadays, I think everyone's just like either a frat dude who wants to punch everyone or a girl who's like, yeah, I'm trisexual. Whatever. I don't know what the thing is now. It's all about. It's all about just getting them like the Miami year was the year that changed the way that got really bad. I like the London year after this and the Boston year was fun. We used to go to the Boston Firehouse and throw rocks. Yeah. We used to ding dong ditch. Yeah. That was the same firehouse used in Spencer for hire. I heard that. Which was good. So yeah, real world, I think that's a good move. It was a good show. I preferred the LA year because I really liked Tammy. It was a big fan of Tammy. Wish my memory for a second. Tammy was the one who has the infamous phrase. It wasn't not funny when David pulled her. Yeah. So she wired her mouth. So she could lose lose weight. That was an imagine that was considered scandalous and yeah, like 93. Yeah. Could you believe how he violated the attack there? Stand up comedy comedian David who we all heard lots from after that. Oh, I know. I mean, he's going to see him tonight. Yeah. He plays every night. Yeah. He's going to pump your gas. You know, at the casino tonight. So this is a tough call, though, because the real world MTV used to rear this 700 to 800 times a week. So you would have a lot of options to see this. Saturday night, I usually go with my standard, which is cops. I still watch cops on Saturday night to this day. But the real world was a pretty good call. But also you had a rare repeat of super bloopers and practical jokes with Ruth Buzzy and Willie Ames. That's proud. And you know what, in all reality, if I'm at home and I'm 11 and I'm flipping, you probably would have stuck on that. I cannot skip. And to this day, I can't skip a blooper. Here's why I would have definitely watched it because the joke, the first joke they did was on Jason Hervey, who I hate with a burning passion. Jason Hervey's one of my least favorite people. I don't think I know. He was Wayne on the wonder years. Oh, yeah. He shows up and everything. Yeah. He sees just a terrible person. And the other joke was on Sinbad, who they lead on a wild goose chase through Las Vegas. I would watch a whole series of that, just Sinbad on a wild goose chase to Las Vegas. I imagine that it's not super hard to like tricks in bed into a wild goose chase. Like maybe even an actual wild goose. Just be like, go find me a wild goose. And then you know what? I got it. I got the day. Instant TV show. So all right. So that's where you went with it. But the other thing is you've missed out on it. I thought it would have thought you would have been in the prime demographic for this 93. July. We're talking Snick. Snick, I know. Clarissa was on it. See, I put that in. I put that in on one of my later picks. Okay, you put in the repeat. So we'll get to that in a moment then. So 830. No, you know what? Hold on. Wait, I did it. You can see right here. I went real world or Clarissa. Oh, you couldn't choose and then I chose Will is the first person who's used two pages on the pages. So it was down to Clarissa in real world you went with real world with because at this age, I was kind of I was really into I want to know what it's like to be right. Did you only have one TV in the house so that like you would have had to have agreed on the real world with you with your system? We only had one TV that had Kate that had okay. So fits between MTV and Nickelodeon. You have to only pick one. Yeah, I could have gone upstairs and watch four five. I could have watched the networks. You could have gone with super bloopers on your own. But if you wanted cable, you would have had to agree with your brother instead. Fair enough. The real world makes sense. Yeah. The whole family probably wouldn't be in the world. So what do you got at 830? 830. I have cops. Cops. Yeah, you go with cops. It's a good one. It's a repeat from Fort Worth. They usually have some pretty good stuff going on there. Fun game. Me and my friends like to play turn when you turn cops on you immediately turn off the nowadays. You can't it's harder to play the game now because the info comes up. But our game we select play is you turn cops on guess what city it is. Guess what city it is before you see it on the car? Oh, nice. Well, I mean, it's a 50 50 chance it's gonna be Florida. Actually, Boston is the only time on cops. Someone's been killed on camera. Oh, really? Yeah, there was a guy who attacked the cops and they shot him in the Lynn recently. Uh, no, this is from like 91. I was gonna tell you, my dad was the cops police liaison when they were in Boston. Probably that would have been in the Lynn. Yeah, they shot in East Boston in the Lynn and then they never came out. We have all these tapes still at our house, VHS tapes, raw footage. Really? Cops. Well, if you want those converted to DVD, I could do that for you. I would love those. But this is already made my night. So nine o'clock now, there's a special that I would have gone with. And then there was something that I think you probably picked. But what would you go with at nine? I went with empty nest. Empty nest is what I thought it would have been. Maybe the easiest choice of this one. That's an easy choice. You're a big Richard Mulligan fan. This show, I used to love for some. I don't still know really why it's not a great show. I loved it though. I loved it though. I think I'm a hypochondriac, so I think I just liked the doctor's office setting. That's odd. That made me uncomfortable. See, I had the opposite reaction. So this was one of two spin-offs from the Golden Girls, Golden Palace being the other one, and also had its own spin-off. If you remember, nurses was a spin-off of a empty nest. Yeah. David Leisure, I just couldn't stand him. It was weird that people liked him from the Azuzu commercial. A lot of people, I always kind of liked him. I liked his sort of, I found him really funny when I was a kid. Yeah, if you re-watched empty nests recently. Yeah, and I'm actually looking for a specific episode, if anyone- What's the episode of listening? How about anyone that's sitting right across there? I'm very well-made. You probably remember this. I think it made me ask you this in the past because this is like something that it really affected me in an episode. The hurricane episode? No, it was the diabetes episode. Oh, yes. It was a little boy who was about my age. Right. He's peeing all the time. Yeah. And his dad brought him in, and at first his dad didn't want to hear. Right. He's like, "There's no way my son is diabetes." No, he's a superstar. And then it's like the kid over the course of the episode gets really sick and falls into a coma or something. Did you used to pee all the time? I mean, I still pee all the time. Yeah, so you could still have diabetes. And it's something, honestly, I've always been sort of prone to hypochondria and even as a child. Okay. It was like, I heard that in that episode. That's what I have. And it was my mom probably for you summers had to listen to me be like, "I took four P's today. Do I have diabetes?" Is that enough? What's the limit for diabetes pee? That television show I saw. It's that damn empty nest. The new prince like, "You're not watching any of Richard Mulligan. Thanks for knowing." My mother used to do medical billing when I was growing up. So she had a medical dictionary for reference. Yeah. The house that I would flip through and just be terrified of having everything. Yeah. My favorite diabetes episode of a sitcom, which is, which is a thing, they're actually at her wedding, was the episode where it's revealed that Ros from Night Court is diabetic. She goes into a diabetic, psychotic sort of break from reality and is dancing on the roof. And Dan has to go up and talk her down and clandestinely give her an insulin shot. That's ringing some bells, actually. Yeah. That's a really good one. Night Court was awesome about using, they always had like their three sets like every second. Oh, yeah. The roof, the cafeteria. No, they had four. They had the roof, the cafeteria, Harry's office, and the courtroom. Occasionally the jail cell downstairs. That was it. In the hallways. That was the thing, they had their thing where it was like, "You got your main ones." And then occasionally they throw in a roof for jail cell and you'd be like, "Oh man." Did you ever watch Barney Miller? Not really. Barney Miller's a great show. It was sort of the precursor to Night Court. A lot of the guys who created Night Court writers on Barney Miller. But Barney Miller took place in a police precinct and literally was one room every episode. I think anyone who wants to write comedy should watch Barney Miller because it's very funny, that's good too. But it's also literally just five guys, one room talking for a half an hour and is hilarious and perfect and great characters. They never leave that room. It's like a play. I heard Larry David use the quote that as an inspiration. Barney Miller. Yeah, I could say that. I would say Barney Miller and Car54 were are you, which is a really, really great show, are probably like the, if I were to guess what Larry David's two big sitcom influences are. I think I would pick those. I'll check those out. But they're both very good. Both about cops. They're no Latinas, I'm sure. No, nothing really is. So here's the thing. Normally I would have watched empty nests. That was a big NBC Saturday night person. But on this particular night, because it's the summer, you get some special programming. And this, this hour you had Circus of the Stars. I know. There's no way I wouldn't have watched Circus from the Stars. That's true. You got Lonnie Anderson and Alan Thicke as the ringmasters and the 17th annual Circus of the Stars. Country Music's David Stone, Sally Kirkland, Training Lions, Linda Pearl writing Elephants. It's just, who wouldn't want to watch this weird Al Yank of it, 55 feet aloft, on a swaying pole. I can remember the promos for this. I was like, Circus of the Stars. I watched every year. Here's, here's the best thing. This is what I can't believe didn't sell you on it. It's one sentence that I think I could get anyone to watch anything that this was included. Alfonso Ribeiro cycling inside the Globe of Death. Oh, I mean, you can play with anything. He practiced, he did it. I do remember that show. That was a great show and they show it was good. They do it once a year. It was a big deal. Yeah, it had like little like promo cuts of like how they got ready. Oh, yeah. They're practicing those now. I'm surprised they haven't brought back Circus of the Stars because we have stuff like splash and dancing with the Stars like Circus of the Stars. That seems, that's a slam dunk. I don't know why we haven't had it. And it could help the circus industry get better. It really could, it really could, and they could use it. So at 9.30, I'm guessing, no, I wouldn't have picked anything at 9.30 because obviously I was watching Circus of the Stars. But I'm guessing that you went through and stayed on NBC and went with nurses. I did it. I thought about that, but I went with MTV Sports. Oh, Dan Cortes. No, MTV Sports. Why, what would make you do that? I used to love that show. I was a total, you know, I was kind of a hard on when I was a kid. And I liked, I bought into that. I was 11 and 93. You liked the extremeness of it. I loved, I actually loved, I thought Dan Cortes was like, I used to remember me and my buddy sitting like just, you mean the doll? Yeah. And my other buddy, Sean, who's a real guy, I was sitting around just being like, man, Dan Cortes is cool. Like he knows, would you go to Burger King just because Dan Cortes was like that place? I just remember thinking like, man, I'm so like white and pale and Irish and like. And so was Dan Cortes. And Dan Cortes is just like that California. I would always, if you put Dan, especially 1993, if you put Dan Cortes in Gerardo in a room next to each other, I would be hard pressed to tell them apart. It's true. My friend was on a sitcom like with Dan Cortes. Okay. And I was like, what sitcom was this? What I like about you? Oh, yes. Amanda Bynes and Jenny Garth. Yes, my, my buddy was on for a whole season. Okay. And, uh, short haired Dan Cortes. He's a New Zealand guy. So he had no reference for empty sports. I'm like, dude, or 92. And oh, really? There was, do you remember the precursor to MTV sports called, uh, Kevin Seale, Sporting Fool? Do you remember Vijay Kevin Seale? No, he was around 88 to like 90. And then he kind of disappeared. But it was him doing different sports, like running with the bulls and stuff. Yeah, I do think I kind of, cause I'm, and also MTV sports was like segment, like they had the segments with it. And it was also kind of related to that fashion show that usually on back to back. Did you just call it that fashion show? It's called House of Style. House of Style. It's a fabulous show that I used to watch every single week. I was the world's biggest House of Style. I love it. I love Tod Oldham. I'm not a homosexual man. I should mention that for people that don't know me. But I love Tod Oldham. And when I was 19, he was at the South Shore Plaza, which is a mall around here. He was signing a book at Findings. I made my high school girlfriend go with me. So I could meet him and I made her take a picture of me and Tod Oldham. Yeah, that didn't last hard at all. Yeah. I still have the book. I'm pretty sure. Yeah. I mean, if you want me to watch Shalom Harlow, a reappolster or a chair with Tod Oldham, I'll watch that all day. I used to kind of get my adrenaline going with, get the hormones forward. And then I'd watch House of Style and get, you know, my... Comment down. I had too much respect for House of Style with your prevent perverted amount. Yeah. We can make up the word perverted. Prevented. Prevented. It's preventing things using perversions. So it's distracting people with perversions so they don't do something wrong. I used to really do some bad things watching House of Style. I love that show. I saved it for the real world, man. I had too much respect for House of Style. Just as soon as Tammy came on, forget it. But nope, House of Style, that was sacred. You also didn't pick Ren and Stimpy, which was on Stix. I didn't pick it. So at 9.30, you went with MTV Sports. I'm sorry that you picked that. You could've gone with Are You Afraid of the Dark, which I really enjoyed. Nurses, which I was not a huge fan of, but sometimes you'd park it there. Or Tales from the Crypt, which was on HP now. I thought about going with Are You Afraid of the Dark on that, but I wanted to fill the half hour because I wanted to watch what's on a 10. Look, on Comedy Central that night, there was a one-night stand for Joe Bolster. You ever heard of Joe Bolster? Yeah, he was smoking Joe Bolster. I've never heard of Joe Bolster. He was one of those guys who had a nickname. It was like Smokin' Joe Bolster, like Ramblin' Joe Bolster. Just because we're both comedians, I'll read you the description of Joe Bolster as one-night stand just to see what you think here. Joe Bolster shares his thoughts on some of life's ironies, including cable TV, wine tasting, auto repairs, car phones, New York City traffic, and contact lenses taped in Miami Beach. Why did they feel the need to, like, if someone was like, "Oh, who's this Joe Bolster?" Oh, hold up, contact lenses. If he's taking them down, I'm tuning in. That seems really optimal. No, I can't stand those contact lenses. And by the way, everyone knows Miami Beach. That's where comedy is. That's where you want to tape it for the old focus. All right, moving on. Sunday night, 8 o'clock. Wait, we didn't do 10, did we? Oh, we got to do 8 to 10. You'll do 8 to 10. Yeah, stop or 10. Did you pick something in 10? I was kind of sad. Yeah, the commission, I love it. I never liked the commission. Well, you see, my dad was the boss of the policeman, and his job in the 90s was he drove the commissioner around. Not the commission, like the actual commissioner of the commission. The Boston Police Commissioner, he was the cop with him all day. Okay. And so we used to, as a family, watch the commission. And your dad would go, "Nah." That's not how it really is. That's not how it was. He wouldn't wear that kind of underwear. Yeah, and that was chickless. That was his original Yeah. I think he's from Lowell. Yeah, he's from around here. He's from around too. Also, Hyperkondryac. Is he a Hyperkondryac? When he was playing the thing. He thought he had a real skin condition. He thought he became a stone and he, no, he had panic attacks all day and he had to have a psychiatrist on set. Here's the thing, well, I don't think that's being a Hyperkondryac. I think if you have 300 pounds of latex encasing your body all day, that's true. I think it's reasonable to have anxiety about that. That's true. You're like, what a freak. Like this was glue 400 pounds of rubber to him and he just freaks out. I have a lot of anxiety attacks too without the rubber. Yeah, maybe if you did the rubber, you would be good. That's my- Do the rubber. I think that was a Dan Cortez catchphrase. Do the rubber, dude! Do the rubber! I love this place! And he was already 35, man. Yeah, sadly. I'm sad Dan Cortez made it that many years. 8 p.m. Sunday night. What are you going on with? Easy. America's funniest home videos. Oh, thank you for saying that, sir. This is always a bone of contention with people on the podcast because Sunday nights, there's two camps of people eight o'clock. You were either an in-living-collar person or an America's funniest home videos person and I was a die-hard America's funniest home video. It wasn't an easy call. I watched the living-collar occasionally, but it did. It was lazy and hateful a lot of the time. I often got- I was one of those guys who, even as a kid, was so sick of fire, martial, bill, and professions. The catchphrase- Oh, yes. Yeah. You didn't- From kids at school? You didn't need to see it because you knew the next day at Monday, kids would act out the whole thing for you. Yeah, I got really sick of that and I- Yeah, I agree with you. I had- As a- When I got a little older, I kind of could see like, yeah, like, certain things on a living-collar, but- So it's okay. I loved America's funniest home videos and I loved, loved, loved the opening credit sequence with the average- every episode, it was a different sort of set. You're like, "What's gonna happen?" Yeah. And that to me, I still think it was a nice touch when I watched it. It was like the Simpson's credit sequence. Yeah, but only live and kind of like, it was- I thought it was so cool that- What's it gonna be this week? And I still think it's cool. It is still cool. Although, as much as I enjoy sagged as the hostel and then I have to say, Tom Bergeron's my favorite. Yeah. And I'm sadly discounting Daisy Fuentes' run. Bergeron riffs, which I like. He does like, frabby riffs. Bergeron's great. He's like the- the- the dad humor we all want to love. Uh, the real world's on again also today to clap. I know. I make sure there's that. Two days in a row. I was like, did I miss the new one? Would you go with- I think the new- when do the new ones premiere Thursday nights? They're great at 10. Thursday's at 10 was the new real world. Yeah. Which I would normally be watching something on NBC, probably. Yeah. Uh, so 830, did you go with America's Funniest People and do the hour? I couldn't stomach the show, but I watched it every week. Yeah, same here. I didn't like it as much, and that was pretty much the fun of it, sitting around going like, this isn't as good. This is just the first YouTube, the first one. Yeah. I think I tried to do America's Funniest People for like half a season, and then I had switched to Rock. Yeah. I watched Rock every week. Rock was the quality show. That was great. That's a good show. I thought that was a spinoff, but it wasn't. No, no. Rock was its own little- You don't know what the spinoff was. Two, two, seven for the last time. No, no. You're just racist. I know. I'm just a racist. Yeah. Two, two, seven was a good show. But also, who's the co-host of Funniest People? Who's the employee? Uh, and um, uh, she does Harley Quinn's voice on Batman the Animated Series. Her name is Arlene Sorkin. Wow. She was, uh, she was also a soap opera actor. She was attractive. Yes. Yes. And she, uh, she was on Hollywood Squares as well at the time. I never had a big crush on her. She has a lot of, uh, voice over work on cartoons now. Got to hear that. Uh, you also missed out on Maniac Mansion, which was an underrated show. It was Family Channel 830, Maniac Mansion, Joe Flaherty, very good show. And one of my favorite MTV shows was on this time called You Wrote It You Watch It. Yes. Which was the original version of the state. It was all the people from the state hosted by John Stewart, and I used to write things into that every damn we had. Never got on. That sucks. Never got on. That was a great show. Uh, nine o'clock. What do you got? Married with children. I watched it, and I have to say I, I can't endorse it now. Yeah. It, uh, it just was so silly and, and sort of, uh, offensive to blue collar poor people in hindsight. You know, it was funny. Me and my friends used to watch it, you know, for all the reasons. A lot of these choices I'm looking back on were like puberty related. Yeah, I found the more we do this, the more I realized that men made television choices purely based on hormones. Yeah. I mean, I wanted to look at you. You thought that Ed O'Neill was pretty hot. I liked it. I liked his no-man values. I liked it. You liked his women hating. It was shoe store salesmen world. That was me and my buddy, the same guy I was talking about earlier. We used to be like, why does anyone have sex with Peg? She's very attractive lady. She's an attractive lady. Yeah. I never understood that. I remember asking my dad that, and my dad's answer was, well, she's his wife. It's different. That'll play with your head when you're a little kid. First, mom's your wife. I don't understand. Uh, I would have gone with, uh, I would have gone with the weekend rock. Kurt Loder is my hero. Yeah. And Kurt, between Kurt Loder and John Larrakett, they're my two heroes in life and I definitely were going to a weekend rock. I've seen him on the street in New York City. Kurt Loder? Yeah. When I- Did he look serly and judgmental? He was so cool. And I saw- Kind of so cool. I saw Tabitha Soren like a week later. Nice. He's in Central Park and I was like, what is going on? Yeah. He was next. Pinfield. So yeah, I don't agree that Pinfield gets lumped in with those three. He was late to the park. Little later. Tabitha Soren and uh, Kurt Loder- What about Kennedy? Oh, Kennedy. Alternative Nations Kennedy. Uh, you know who my favorite MTV female Vijay was of all time. I'd be Daffy. No, not Karen Duffy. The Charlie Girl herself. I'd be surprised if you could- if you could guess this one, but take another stab at it. Uh, what was your name? Uh, what was your name? Uh, the real All-American Girl? I can't remember me. Real All-American Girl. No, it's not her. It's uh, it's uh, Adalis. Adalis, I was a big fan. From the band Seduction. Oh my God. She was an MTV Beach House staple. She was in the John Sensio era. Is she a bar? I don't know. She was just Spanish. She was like Hispanic. Uh, Adalis. My race has been gotten away. Yeah. Uh, so, so 930, I'm guessing you went with Herman's head. I did go with Herman's head, which I, when I saw that, I smiled because I was just like, I loved the concept of high concept sitcoms. Yeah, it was a great show. We don't have ones like that now. I think Herman's up would do well, uh, or too afraid. I probably would have watched Herman's head, but it was also on up against the kids in the hall repeat on Comedy Central, but I, I'm probably would have flipped. Yeah. Um, I don't know. Herman's head was a great show, and Lisa sims, back then it was cool to see Lisa Simpson in action. Yeah, and Hank is an area. And Hank is an area, uh, everyone on the Simpsons at that point. Yeah, and I just remember the set of that show was cool too. I was really into cool sets. So sets you were like, if they made a play set of this, I'd be dead. I mean, honestly, I was really into that sort of stuff. There's a really cool book, uh, called TV sets. And it's this architect who made blueprints for if all of these famous TV sets were actual buildings and rooms. Oh, really? So you could in theory purchase this book and have someone build you like the Brady Bunch house or like the monster. I don't think the Herman's headset was famous enough to be in there, but there's all sorts of things of that. It's a really cool book. I definitely get that. You can get it on Amazon used for like a penny at this point, but I'm going to go called TV sets. I'll remember that when I listen back to this. Yes. Uh, Monday night, the saddest of nights every week, it's the first day back from school, you really need something to pick you up. What'd you go with? I went with the Fresh Prince of Bel-Air. Popular choice. I think that's a very respectable move. Uh, this is a pretty good episode. Uh, there are no easy answers for well when old fashioned girl Monique played by Kim Fields, 2D from Facts Life. One of my favorite people on earth turns him down, but jazz thinks he has just a ticket to change Monique's mind. So you know, this is early when jazz was still being allowed into episodes. Jazz was still loud. Uh, I think it's a good, good call. I probably would have for a second thought about watching Evening Shade just cause I really like Mary Lou Hennock and uh, I'd watch obviously Bert Reynolds and anything. Uh, but this particular episode featured Reba McIntyre. So there's no way I would have watched that. I would have definitely gone with the Fresh Prince. Weird Reba McIntyre memory. I'm in a supermarket with my mom and we're passing kind of, you ever pass like the mirror image of your, like we passed another mom and son of his exact same age? Okay. And we're in the junk food aisle and the mom and the other kid are just kind of having small talk and the kid says he points to a big dump, uh, big Doritos bag. Okay. Has a picture of Reba McIntyre on it. Okay. That's the weirdest part so far. Yeah. Like she's like, she's like, selling something. Okay. And he goes, you know, I think she's pretty. Like, like, that's what I think a pretty woman is to his mother. How old was this kid? He's probably like 11. Okay. You can tell they were just having like one of those conversations. Like, wait, wait, wait, one of what conversations when your mother's like, well, who do you think is pretty? Yeah, I guess that was kind of, I guess maybe earlier in the day they've been like, what kind of girls do you think are pretty? And he didn't have an answer. That's a weird conversation to have. It's weird that I remember it all these years later. And I just, I remember him saying, I think she's pretty, I remember his mom's reaction being like, vomitous. Really? Like, what in the Northeast? You don't love Reba McIntyre as your, I mean, at least pick one of the Juds. That's not Winona. It's true. If you're going to go that way. But I remember agreeing with the kid kind of and being like, what's up at this mom? Reba McIntyre is pretty good looking. She's not bad. I remember I was hugely into Debbie Gibson as a, as a kid and I, I list her music frequently. And my dad, uh, type, huh? Yeah. Uh, my dad was like, uh, what do you like about her? And I'm like, I just like her music. And he's like, yeah, do you think she's pretty? And I'm like, gosh, she's all right. I don't know. And he's like, yo, what would you, you know, what do you want? Kissers? Like, he really wanted me to just be like, I just want to do her, man. I, I have no interest in her music. That's how I think, I think now that I have like nieces and nephews, I think it's like that something people just like to do, like pull some adulthood out of you, like, come on, what do you think? Just really thoughts? So ruin your childhood. Yeah, I mean, yeah, just kickstart you into puberty. Uh, so at eight 30, there's, there's three decent things. So this was one of the toughest ones to choose. I know, I think I know what I would have gone with. But what, what's your call? I went with a different world. I think that's the right move here. I absolutely loved different worlds. Uh, this was an excellent episode. Uh, it's still with Lisa Bonet at this point. Good call. The other two you had to go against was, of course, New Hampshire Crossroads. Uh, I mean, this episode of New Hampshire Crossroads is a main cabinet maker's reproduction of a chair made in 1789. I mean, that's tough not to watch. Of course, I was not talking about New Hampshire Crossroads. Other thing about major dad in blossom, uh, blossom, blossom would have been the number two choice major data distant third. We used to watch blossom as a family. That's a good family show. Although they tackled a lot of issues that would have been awkward. Yeah. With the family. She turned into an interesting woman. My, I mean, she's ugly. No, she like does interest. Isn't she like a rabbi or something now or some sort of movie? She's on the Big Bang Theory. Is that a Jewish temple? I remember reading something with her. I remember reading something where it was like, I for went Hollywood. But now she's back. I remember her most distinctly from Webster. She played one of Webster's best friends, especially on the episode where Webster's Greek grandfather, Papouli, uh, got a job as the janitor in the after school program that they were in. And he was dancing with a broom and all the kids were in front of him. Yeah. You don't want your Greek. You don't want your adopted Greek grandfather being a janitor at your after school program. Dance dancing with a broom because my own vehicle will make fun of him. Yeah. Uh, you couldn't make fun of her for anything. No, absolutely. Nine o'clock. What'd you go with? Murphy Brown. I think that's a good call. Murphy Brown is a classic show. Very funny. It was really weird to me when I would see SNL reruns with, uh, Candace Bergen. She was like extremely pretty. Oh my God. She was a pretty older lady, but she was kind of like, man-ish and ballsy on her. Yeah. But that was a great show. And that's mentioned, that show represents such a great time in America where like her being a single mother was like the numb. That's a big problem. That's not just scanned. That was the bane of the existence of Dan Quill. It was such a huge, it was like lead story on the news every night. And it made him look really dumb. That was one of the things that lost that election for them. Uh, in addition to this is one of my favorite things ever. Uh, I don't know if you remember this, but when George Bush Senior was run for reelection, he was in a supermarket doing like, uh, uh, you know, photo opportunity. And one of these reporters asked him how much something was and he was so wrong. Like, because he clearly hadn't bought anything since 1930. Yeah. And he's also been so rich that he's never had to pay attention. And they were like, how much is this guy going to milk? And he's like, uh, nickel. And so then you saw this reporter just could be like, Oh, I got him. And then start asking him everything else. Like, what about a loaf of bread? And he's like, Oh, 25 cents. And it was just like, you just lost this election wonderfully at this supermarket. Uh, yeah, this was, this was definitely the move, I think, uh, to go with Murphy Brown. And I'm glad that you passed off the laughing's 25th anniversary special. What a terrible, terrible shift. The only thing was Twiggy. I liked her. But Twiggy wasn't on that. I'm not Twiggy. Oh, who was the girl on that? Uh, you're gonna get it? You're gonna get it? Not Goldy Hahn. Goldy Hahn. Goldy Hahn. That's Goldy Hahn. Yeah. Laughing was awful. I remember when Nicket Knight started, uh, airing reruns of Laughing around 1987, they made a big deal out of it. Like they, they teased it for months. And I loved comedy. I love sketch comedy. And I'm like, Oh, this is going to be great. And they're watching like, what is this 60s bullshit? I did have the same exact reaction where I'm like, Oh, this is kind of going to be like Python, probably just got to be something. It was such an attempt to be subversive, but it was, it was, it was old men trying to make what they thought kids wanted to see. Yeah, it's pretty true. Not a good show. I very few. Another Goldy Hahn. I would have watched just to see Goldy Hahn on the bikini. And then again, you're just the horniness. Yeah, the horniness is dictating a lot. It's dictating everything. So at 930, what'd you go with? I went with WWF wrestling. The second half of WWF wrestling, I had a half hour to fill. So I was like, I'd probably flip over and watch a little bit of this. There's only one sitcom on at that time. It was a short-lived sitcom called Love and War. Yeah, which I couldn't remember anything about. Yeah. I remember the promos. I remember seeing it, but the best thing about that show is the main guy in it was played by an actor named Peter Boners with a Z. What was the premise of the show? Uh, let's see. After his daughter Lopes, Nadine plans a real wedding for her with Wally as the caterer and even Nadine's jail husband. It was kind of like just like a family. Yes. I mean, I probably watched a thousand of them and I still-- Yeah, it was a summer replacement series if I remembered correctly. And this, it went on hiatus after this week. This was the last time I aired. Wow. It was not a great show. See, I would have gone-- How do you know that? I don't know how I know that. It's just in here. Well, I don't want it to be in here. It's amazing. I don't want it in my brain. And I feel like if I get it out on tape, maybe it'll stay out of there and get some room to learn something useful. Yeah. It just came, like, that was amazing. It just came right out of there. But at 9.30, I would have gone with on Cinemax Lady Dragon starring Cynthia Rothrock. I've never seen it. You've never seen Lady Dragon? Let's see what TV God reviews lady. Have you ever seen any Cynthia Rothrock movies? Oh, I mean, maybe if I Google her face. She's great. She's a very good martial artist. When I was actually at this time, when I was taking martial arts lessons, I went to a seminar with Cynthia Rothrock and learned from her and I have a photo of her and I. She's great. This movie only gets one star according to TV Guide. I'll read you the synopsis. Lady Dragon, violence, strong language, sexual situations. So already you're on board. Yeah. After her husband is murdered on their wedding day, an FBI agent swears revenge. Wow. I mean, come on. That does sound good. Her big movie that she was most famous for was China O'Brien, which had two sequels. She was also in a movie called Fast Get Away with Corey Ham. I'm seeing some sworn for justice late inside Kung Fu. Yeah, yeah, feedable lady dragon too. Yeah, I was never I've never seen it. She has a dojo in LA. You could you could sign up and take lessons from her. I don't know. She's great. She's looking good. She looks good. Yeah. Yeah. She she's a good little actress. Cynthia Rothrock. Yeah, I would have gone with Lady Dragon. I would have gone with the naked men wrestling each other. Yeah. Well, fair enough. You know, you were you were trying to clean it out. Tuesday eight o'clock. What do you get? Beverly Hills 90210. Never ever got into it. I couldn't do it. This was a big part of having an older sister. You had no choice. I have no choice. The whole family. The whole family watched this show and Melrose Place a lot of the time. I feel like that would make your parents uncomfortable. And if it didn't, I'm uncomfortable. You were a weird family like that. Like my parents were we watched. I remember they took me to see Heat in the theater when I was like a pretty young kid. Yeah, that's inappropriate. And then they, uh, we used to watch, um, I don't know, Doogie House. There was a family show, but then it would kind of get into like the 48 hours. Right. Right. Later stuff. And they'd just never say like, go out here. They were just too lazy to parent. Yeah, they just were like, go ahead. The only time my dad, my dad took me to move. Well, either my father or my mother took me to movies every Wednesday from 1982 till I was about 15. And the only time my dad ever made us leave a movie was we went to the 57th cinema, which was in the old par Plaza Hotel downtown Boston. It's now, I think it's just a regular theater now. Yeah. It was a movie theater. And they were showing a horror movie called Hardware with Iggy Pop in it. Oh, no scene. And, uh, Dermott Mulrooney, I think, was in it. And, uh, there's a pretty graphic sex scene in it with, uh, with, uh, Stacy Travis, who was actually a comedic actor. She's in Ghost World. She's best friends with, uh, regular Julie Brown. She was on a just age movie. Right. Uh, but this is, yeah, yeah. This is a sci-fi movie in the future. And there's a sex scene and there's a guy spying on them. And he's like narrating it being like, oh, yeah. Oh, and the only people in the theater were me, my dad and some dude. And my dad was like, we're out of here. Yeah. And so forever, I thought that was the dirtiest movie. Yeah, I could say, you know that, and that would be something sex was the stuff they would, uh, cancel. Like they would change a channel or something. Violence is fine. Violence was fine. Because you, so you didn't watch Problem Child 2. That was on Tuesday night. I looked like him when I was a kid. You still look like him now. I think it's the bow tie. And also, I think for just the people listening, Will is sitting in a basket. He showed up here in a basket on my doorstep. It's true. And John, a ghost of John Ritter with me. Yeah. The car is idling and Gilbert Godfrey's in it. Um, you didn't go with Full House, which is a good call. Normally I would say go with Full House, but we're in August 3rd here in the episode they're running as a Christmas episode. Oh no. Which is a little strange. Rescue 9-1-1 was on at the same time, I'm a big fan of that. I always loved hearing southern people's actual phone calls. And I apologize to anyone from the south is listening, but it just, I remember this one where a boulder rolled down a mountain and pinned a guy and like they would play the actual call and reenact the thing. And the call was just like, oh man, he's pinned under a big rock. It's a woody, it's a boulder. Like the guy who was trying to like that made a difference. Don't stand the rock. It's not just a big rock. I can't find the words. It's a boulder. That was a favorite. Also glad he didn't go with Nova that night because the title of the Nova episode, which is a PBS show is Murder, Rape, and DNA. Whoa. Yeah. That wouldn't have even not fun. Those are the kind of novas I don't watch. Yeah. But there was a movie on at 8 o'clock on TV50, a two-hour comedy from 1989 made for TV called Swimsuit the Movie. Missed out on that, Swilights on the Movie. This was a tough call, and I don't know what it would have probably been my last choice, but I understand that people liked it. I did like it and I still, you know, it doesn't really hold up, but it was like one of those time and place shows where, and when I, anytime I'm in LA and I drive past that Beverly Hills sign, get a little tingle. It's just, I'm like, I'm in the credits. Yeah, I understand. Reddit sequence. I have that same tingle, but about the show Beverly Hills Teens, which was an animated show about teens from Beverly Hills. It's really terrible. I really remember. Really terrible. It was a Deek production, which was an Israeli company. You remember Deek was spelled D-I-C-I-C and had the cool circular. Yeah, they did Denver the last dinosaur. Thank you for being there. So by picking the one-hour show, you missed out on the 830 show, Where I Live, which starred comic, they say comic, Doug E. Doug returns as a hip high schooler, Doug St. Martin, who feels pressured to make his parents proud after pal Reggie lands a college scholarship. Now, is that a Cosby production? I believe it was. I believe it was. He loved Doug E. Doug. He did. He pushed him hard for many years. Yeah. So what'd you go with it? Nine. I went with Roseanne. Still one of my favorites. That's the move. Still. Great show. I watch it frequently. It's one of the best sitcoms of all time. The best blue collar sitcom of all time. I've mentioned it often here. It's the last true blue collar sitcom that I can think of. When people had real problems and a lot of the humor was gallows, where they're just dealing with their terrible shitty life. Yeah, and she was great. She was great at the kid would say something like, oh, I'm unhappy. You know, like, you're being real though. It didn't seem like regular sitcoms though. Like, my family talking like that. My uncles would interact with each other that way. It was a great show. Still, and they were good. Their very special Roseanne's were better than any sitcoms. Oh, absolutely. Absolutely. Perfect at that moment where you were like, this is getting a little heavy. Remember the one where Jackie's boyfriend slaps around and Dan goes and beats the shit out of me? Yeah. That was terrifying. That was terrible. I would not want John Goodman's to remember the one where they find the weed that they smoke it in the bathroom. Yeah, that's a classic. That's a classic. This particular episode is Roseanne puts her foot down when Darlene wants David to move in with them. But she later extends a helping hand after meeting his mom played by Sally Kirkland. She's a real bitch. Yeah, she's the worst alcoholic or something. Yeah, she's like a waitress. And yeah, first celebrity I saw when I went to when I went to Los Angeles. Sally Kirkland. No, David. I saw him standing. Oh, Colecki. Johnny Colecki. He went to cross the street. And I remember thinking, look at how well he's doing now. Right. I remember thinking like, oh, wow. Like, is that Third Rusty? Oh, it is Third Rusty. It's Third Rusty. Third Rusty. And I remember thinking just like, yeah, like, oh, wow, that guy's done so much. And I wonder what he's doing now. Now he's just Third Rusty. If I knew him, I think just to be a jerk out, only a sitcom Third Rusty. He'd probably be like, I make a million dollars a day for big bank theories. Okay, Third Rusty. I'm bitter. 930, please don't tell me you went with coach. I did go with coach, which I knew. I had a feeling as I wrote it down, I was like, I doubt can watch coach. It's a terrible show. I liked it. I liked Jerry Van Dyke. I see. I've described the show this way before to other people, but it's like a show where all the characters are the annoying side character. There's no likable main character. Everyone on that show is a supporting character. It's just a sitcom of all supporting characters. So like a coach. No, here's what I liked, Craig T. Nelson in action Jackson. And he's the villain. Yeah. And Poltergeist too, where he pukes up the worm. I liked Craig T. Nelson. I liked coach. I liked the dumb cut. I liked how I loved him as girlfriend. Do you like dumb people? I liked him. I liked the relationship between him and his girlfriend member. Yeah. And remember how I've been saying the sets mean a lot to me? You like the set of coaches house? His member, he lived in like a cabin. Yeah. It's like a cabin in the woods. And a cabin in the woods? I love that for some reason. I just found him so off-putting. I would have gone with whose line is it anyway. Yeah. It's not my favorite show, but it wasn't coach. It wasn't my favorite either. And I always thought even as a kid, I was like, this is scripted. It very well could have been. But meanwhile, you were like, coach, totally impressed. No way. They would just stop. They get a, here's what you do. You get a really nice set and you just get some mediocre actors. And girl with frizzy hair. Exactly. Wednesday, August 4th, 1993, eight o'clock. What do you get? The one day years. Good call. Yeah. I loved the one years. I used to tape it and I live, I would watch Unsolved Mysteries, which scared that. It scared me. Yeah. I, a phrase that I heard last year, which I'd never heard before, my barber said this. And he said, this guy was so scared, he shit out his own ghost. And I had never heard that before, but I'd like to hear it again. And I can think of a better way to describe Unsolved Mysteries. Yeah. I think our whole generation can relate with that. Everybody shit out their own ghost at that point. You did miss out on a show called How They Do That. And in this episode, we had an extreme skier, a heaviest woman in the world, who was over 900 pounds, lost over 900 pounds, and Killer B's hosted by, hosted by Pat O'Brien. That was another clock. Pat O'Brien. Yeah. So you went, you went with Wonder Years. You missed out on the second episode of Beverly Hills 902 on Oh That Week. I was thinking, I looked at that and I was like, I wonder if which one was the new one, I probably would have caught it. So Wonder Years That Night was at a weekly poker game, the guys realized the days of innocence had passed as Chuck announces that he may soon be a father. That episode absolutely terrified me to my core. These are the, yeah, I remember that episode. These are the later Wonder Years as Kevin's getting older. Yeah, I got a little awkward. Yeah, I got a little weird there. Although on TV38 at that time, I probably would have watched Time Tracks, which was a very short-lived sci-fi show, and it started Eddie Albert from Green Acres. I can see the logo. Yeah. I'm not talking about tracks, which was the movie with Shadow Stevens. Maybe I'm seeing it. I just, it's definitely with an X. Yeah. Oh, yeah, there's two Xs. Yeah. 830. What do you got? 830 at Comic View. E.T.'s Comic View? E.T.'s Comic View. There wasn't a lot for me at this time slot here, so I was like, I'd probably flip over to Comic View. I used to hope there was like one episode of Comic View that I think Eddie Griffin hosted, but I always was trying to like catch. Is this going to be the Eddie Griffith episode? I was just trying to catch Eddie Griffin doing his thing. Like he had some, I was kind of a big Eddie Griffin fan in this period. I can get behind that. Yeah, a couple bits that were just killer and I loved. I would have probably gone on, with almost live, which was a local Seattle sketch show that's been on for ages, and Joel McHale got to start on that show. Really? But Comedy Central picked it up and aired it for two seasons at this time. It was decent. Milton sucked. We were like one of the last towns to get Comedy Central. You didn't get Comedy Central? No, we were like, I remember like, I didn't get Comedy Central until I think I was in ninth grade or something. I got a New Year's Eve 1989. So it's the December 31st, 1988 at 1201 CTV started, which was, no, it was called the Comedy Channel. Yeah. And then they turned it to CTV. And I remember I was sleeping with my grandparents house like every New Year's Eve, which was hell on earth and smelled like pee. And I stayed out. Yeah. And I watched the launch of Comedy Central and I watched it all night. Wow. It was great. I watched one of CTV and I also watched HA, which was the other Comedy Channel that launched the same time, which they merged and became Comedy Central. But I love the original Comedy Central with Onion World. Yeah. I remember like, a buddy of mine, maybe like one town over was telling me about it. It was like, yeah, it was like basically someone having the internet and you came out. He gets boys in Gruber. He's telling me stuff all the time and taping stuff. My favorite show was The Sweet Life with Rachel Sweet, who had a, it was a little sweet on. Yeah. She was a singer, did a bunch of records for stiff records, did a lot of the music in the movie Hairspray. Oh, okay. She did some acting. Yeah. But she used to host this like two-hour block of like comedy clips. Wow. You should look up Rachel Sweet if you'd like it. Also Get Smart was on Nickelodeon, which is, which is a great show. Great show. Nine o'clock, what'd you go with? I coped a god. It's not what I think it is. It probably is home and proof. Oh, dear god. I'm 11. It's 93. That's no excuse. I love, I thought Tim Allen was funny and I actually kind of thought the mom on that show was attractive, which is hilarious looking back. She played the love interest of the father on a show called Double Trouble in '85 and I found her really off-putting. Really? Yeah. It's funny though how a role can turn you off of someone forever and every other role they ever play? Where would you put her on a scale of one to ten Reba McIntires? Oh, man. Jeez, they're like the same. I'd actually put them on. I put Reba McIntire like two beers ahead. Okay, so what take two more beers? What if someone showed you the pilot, so you're a network executive. Let's do a little role play and someone shows you a pilot and they're like, all right, this show, it's the, who's the name? Patricia Heaton? Yeah. Patricia Heaton and Reba McIntire. Oh, wait, no. Patricia Heaton's the Raymond, right? That's Raymond. What's Patricia? Patricia's something, it's not listed here, but we could look at it. It's Patricia something. Yeah. So anyway, the mom from home improvement and Reba McIntire and they're both private investigators and it's like an hour-long crime drama. Would you green like that? I think it would. I think it would too. I think I would, absolutely. I'm going to have no doubt in my mind that you would green like that. I think I'd executive-produce it even. Yeah. You know what, I want my personal touch on this. Yeah, fair enough. I would have gone with kids in the hall at this time. Yeah, yeah. You know, see, I wasn't trying to pick cool shit. I was trying to pick what I really would have watched in '90s. Oh, you've been honest. You've been honest. I went with that and I would have watched it. I loved Wilson. I loved... I just couldn't. Actually, in this particular edition of TV Guide, there's a huge four-page article with the actor that plays well. Oh, really? And I also thought I was in a weird way getting a behind-the-scenes look at television production because he had a show. And I'm surprised you've made it this far. Given what you've been talking about all the podcasts, you've made it this far into talking about home improvement without mentioning Pamela Anderson. And I'm proud of you about that. That's true too. I mean, honestly, that wasn't the big draw for me. 9.30, what do you go with? Delta. Delta wasn't a bad show. And I would have loved to have gone. I probably would have loved to have gone major dad Delta back to dad. Get the Gerald MacRaney. Delta Burke. I mean, what... Talk about owning '93. I love Delta Burke. As you can see, you could probably see it up here. I do own Delta Burke's autobiography. Well, there it is right there. Delta Burke. It's a pretty good honor. And I see 10 Ellen's autobiography. 10 Ellen's autobiography is up there as well. I love Delta Burke as a big designing women fan. I've liked everything she's in. However, I probably at 9.30 would have had to go with the movie channel, which was airing the movie Trust, which is a great Hell Hartley film. Oh. Are they Adrienne Shelley and Martin Donovan? Would you like Hell Hartley? You should check out how... Were you a Pete and Pete fan? I was a Pete and Pete fan. If you really like Pete and Pete, they were hugely influenced by Hell Hartley movies. He was making sort of indie, quirky indie movies in New York in the late '80s, early '90s. And a lot of the Pete and Pete actors, they got from Hell Hartley movies. But Trust is really, really good. It just came out on Blu-ray in the U.S. here. I highly recommend checking out Trust. All right. On to Thursday, this is usually the slam dunk night for most people. They have no problem knowing what they'd watch. But judging by your reaction there, maybe this was a little difficult? No, it was... No, you were... That was like a... Of agreement. Oh, gotcha. Because I was like, yeah, I'd forgotten until I opened the TV guide what and like how they just put everything on Thursday night. Yeah, that was the night. Kind of Sunday now. Like, if you look at... There's a certain time of year now where it's like every major show is on Sunday night. Right. All the mad men's and... Yeah. Breaking Bads and then it was Thursday. Well, they want Monday morning water cooler talk. Water cooler talk. Yeah. But back then, it was Thursday. It was the Friday morning talk. Right. Of course, Thursday, eight o'clock, 93. You got to be watching The Simpsons. You went with The Simpsons. This particular episode Marge escapes a flu epidemic, but not the eyes of a poo who catches her accidentally taking an item during a shopping run for flu sufferers. So, David Crosby has a cameo in this episode. Oh, may I do remember it then? I normally would have watched The Simpsons. I checked out on The Simpsons around '95 or '96, so I was still watching The Simpsons. It's the first thing you think of when you hear the name David Crosby. David Crosby? Yeah. I think of the John Larraketch show. Really? Yeah. Yeah. My first thing of the John Larraketch show, because he was his street-plated sponsor on the John Larraketch show. Which is interesting, is John Larraketch battles alcohol? Yes. He's on or off and on. I don't think you're supposed to be able to listen to this, but I got a tape that someone had sort of clandestinely recorded of him doing a speech at an AA meeting, and it's like an hour of him telling his life story, and I got it. It's really, really interesting. It's a huge breach of trust. I'm sure it is, but it's pretty fascinating. It's very, very good. I wish he would read an autobiography. I would love that. When he was in the movie Second Sight with Brunson Pinchot, which they shot in Boston in '88, I went down to shoot, watched them shoot it, and he came over, and he said, "Good afternoon." Oh, wow. And I went in my ears for the last month. Yes, it was great. I did that to David DeVito once. You said, "Good afternoon today." I went and watched him shoot a movie, and he came over and said, "Hello," and she said, "Our hands." Nice. Nice. So I would have been a little torn, though, because I love Matt about you, and that was on at the same time. Also, I'm a big, this old house fan, and I'm not even kidding. I have this particular episode, though, as wallpaper is hung in the master bedroom, I probably could have skipped that one. Yeah. Wallpaper hanging. We're not that interesting. And that was another show that you could catch later. Oh, absolutely. Absolutely. But we're in summertime. It's reruns. The Simpsons is a repeat. So at 8 o'clock on TV38, the movie loft, summertime, I would have had to go with summer school. Yeah. One of my all-time favorite movies. I still watch that all the time. Written by the creator of Full House? I did not know that. Jeff Franklin wrote summer school. Directed by Carl Reiner. Yeah. What's, what's wagging on her name, the beautiful blonde in that movie? Oh, Courtney Thorne Smith. Oh, Courtney Thorne Smith. The summer of '87 was the summer of Courtney Thorne Smith to me. She was in the same week, Revenge of the Nerds 2, and Summer School. Both came out the same week. I saw them both in the same week. Both starring Courtney Thorne Smith, both her had her in a bathing suit. Wow. It's a good double feature. That was a big, big, big deal. That was a big summer. That was a big summer. Also, that summer back to the beach came out. So, I mean, that was a great beach summer for 10 minutes. That's such a summer school still so good. It's a great movie. It holds up to a little. It's great. So at 830, what'd you go with? Wings. Wings is a favorite. Yeah. Great show. Which brother did you like? The, what's his name? Tim. Not the- Not Tim Daly? Joe? Tim Daly, yeah. You like Brian, Stephen Weber. Yeah. You know, I was a Tim Daly guy. Yeah. Yeah. I like the more, that's what I'm looking for. Just the more rebellious kind of brother. You know what did bother? Here's the one thing that bothered me about Wings. Crystal Bernard was supposed to have grown up with them on the island. Why the hell did she have a southern accent? Did they ever attempt to reconcile that in any way? Another great set, by the way. Oh, the Wings set was fantastic. Another fantastic set. Yeah, absolutely. And made air travel just seems so quite on that target like just, yeah. Definitely. Wings, I still watch Wings. I love that show. That could be, I'm not into remakes, but that would be like a premise. I'd be like, bring that back. We knew, you know, not the same characters. No, I couldn't do it. Don't do the same character. Just be like, that same airport. So you just want to show with the same set? Same set. Yeah. The hanger too. Did you just watch hanging on Mr. Cooper? Oh yeah. Hanging, hanging with the weapons. Do you remember how that's, speaking of sets, do you remember how that set started? When growing pains was canceled, they had, they rented their house, they moved to DC, and they rented their house, and the people from Hanging, Mrs. or Cooper, rented the, the Severs house. They reused the set, and they actually wrote that into the show. Oh, I loved how they, I loved it when they did stuff like that, when they would do hand down the sets. Yeah. So at nine o'clock, I'm guessing you went with Cheers. I did go Cheers. Good move. Love Cheers. Good move. Cheers is a good one. Although again, speaking of Christi Alley, who is in summer school, again, since it was a rerun, I've probably watched a lot more movies in the summer because I could stamp all night, and, and the most stuff was in reruns. So this week, really good for the direct video of martial arts films. HBO at nine o'clock out for blood starring Don the Dragon Wilson. Yeah. Also one star, according to TV guy, doesn't seem to like the martial arts movies. Let's see what they have to say about out for blood starring Don the Dragon Wilson. Violence, a karate trained attorney played by Don the Dragon Wilson, goes after the drug dealers who killed his family. Wow. You don't see a lot of karate trained attorneys these days. No, you don't, you don't see a lot of karate verse drug dealer. You know, like usually it's gotten, you know, you're going to take a goner. We need it. I think that if we had more karate trained attorneys, we'd have less drugs in this country. And you wouldn't need bailiffs because if something went wrong in the goat room, I think that should be part of getting your attorney's license. Is that what it's called, an attorney license? Passing the bar. You'd have to pass the bar and also like fight a bar, like a whole bar of people. You'd have to win a bar fight. Yeah, with, yeah, and take a chair. 930, Seinfeld. Yeah. So this is a pretty good one. It's Megan Malawi is a guest star on this one, Jerry adopts Elaine's opinion about a woman he's seeing and drops her than Elaine changes her mind. Georgia company is a woman to a funeral and gets boyfriend status briefly. Decent one. But I will say this for some reason that year I became obsessed with the show down the shore. I watched that every Thursday. It was a, it was a show about all these guys that lived in the Jersey shore together. It was on Fox. It was a sitcom. It was all stand of comedians that were in the, in the house. I can't remember the characters. The actors were all stand. Yeah, the actors were stand of comedians. And this one was called an adventure. And it's an adventure with neighbors, Russian Aussie leads Eddie, Aldo, and Zack and jail after they found drunk in a stolen car with a gun in the glove compartment. Wow, that does sound pretty good. Yeah. This sadly was the last show of the series this night. So I definitely would have had to watch it. It sounds like a show comic would pitch to a network. Yeah. Oh, isn't it? Oh, we're hanging out with each other. My buddies go down. It's crazy stuff. It's nuts. It's nuts. I wish I could remember the main guy in it. He's to stand up and he still plays around now. I care about with Layton. It's not Bobby Slaton. But I wouldn't be surprised if he, if he made an appearance on down the shore. But Seinfeld was the correct choice. But I'm just admitting I would have watched down the shore on CTV Friday night, the final night in our TV guide week, will noon. And what do you got at eight o'clock? Eight o'clock. Family Matters. TGIF. So you were ingrained in the TGIF at this point. I live in. I checked out a TGIF by 93 for the most part. Yeah. Family Matters became way too Erkelcentric. I loved uncle. I had an Erkel doll. Did you get the Erkel cereal? I don't never, I never got that. But I had the Erkel where you pulled the thing out. How would you react if I said the following to you? If you want to do the Steve Rorkel dance, all you got to do is hitch up your pants, laugh and sneeze and jump and cavort and top it all off with a laugh and snore. I would react. That sounds about right. Yeah, I'd probably react that way. I didn't even like the show and that's stuck in my head. Well, do you understand what I've had to live with all these years? My dad was a big Steve Rorkel fan. Yeah, I loved him. He used to buy Erkelos and eat them. I saw, you know, someone, I don't know if it was you, someone on Facebook recently just put up the Erkelos box. It wasn't me. And I saw it and I was like, oh man, just seeing the photo of him made me go like, oh, that was a great time. I always thought it was kind of sad and kind of funny but not for the reasons they thought it was when Jaleo White would insist that they do that step on Erkel. Thanks so that it could be like, I'm not really like that. I'm really actually pretty cool. Yeah, he got, well, he got power, you know, and that was the whole thing. It was like, he went from guy who was just, you know, gonna be a guest art for one episode to like, the star of the whole and now he's Sonic the Hedgehog. Oh, really? Yeah, he's been Sonic the Hedgehog's voice for about 15 or maybe even 20 years now. Good for him. Probably since probably about 93. Are you a good paycheck? Oh, you know it is. You know it is. So I would have gone with Night Court. Yeah, this was the last night court. This was night courts last season. They had moved into Friday nights. This was a good episode. This is when the show got even more ridiculous than ever. An earthquake traps Raws, two wrestlers and a claustrophobic Dan and an elevator. I should have watched that. And then this is the most vague New York earthquake. Yeah, New York earthquake. They were always getting, Night Court, the two biggest things that happened was they'd be trapped in elevators or someone would hold them hostage. That happened. There was a lot of hostage in the early week. And then the the B story, he's a magic trick to get the position drop and then hug them. Yeah. The B story is Harry contends with some wise acres. I feel like they just would have stuck that in the description every week. Like I'm not even gonna watch them. It's gonna put Harry content with wise acres. I know probably be right. Comedically awkward situations happen. Now the Family Matters episode that you chose is when Carl puts his foot down about house rules, Eddie stubbornly moves out of the house and into an apartment with roommate Erkel, their landlord is Garrett Graham. I love Garrett Graham. This is a great episode. But that is a good episode. I recall that episode rather fondly. Yeah. Eddie and Eddie was a great character and a great foil to to Erkel. You know, you had you had doofus and gallant right there. But Eddie's got the high top fade. I mean, he was cool. Yeah, he was cool, but he was, you know, he was screwing up and Erkel would always put him back on the straight. To me, Eddie was always sort of the hydraulics to Theo Huxtebull's oriental. Yeah, I mean, he was not quite as good. It was okay. That's true. But it wasn't quite as good. 8.30. What'd you go with? Step by step. Oh, well. Patrick Duffy. Awful shit. I know it wasn't bad show, but I liked it. It was so sleazy. Had a good set, had a bunch of cute chicks on it, and it had a funny comic relief, Kramer type character, which was like Sasha Mitchell. Was that it was Cody? Cody. Yeah. Who ended up having a wicked fucked up personal life. Well, he's a speaking marshal. I apologize about cooking my. Typical podcasting host etiquette. Yeah, bro, cooking my mouth. He starred in kickboxer three and four. He actually was a martial artist. He went to jail for beating his girlfriend. He's girlfriend. Yeah, I remember that. Like, wow, step by step was on the air. It wasn't even necessarily like, after it had been canceled or anything like that. I liked- But he was funny. I never found him funny. I remember in eighth grade, a girl told me that I reminded her of him, and it was the most offensive thing anyone ever said to me. He would be hugely insulted. That was very insulted. And then the only thing I liked about step by step was Stacey Keenan. I loved her on my two dads. She was also in a really weird dark movie called Lisa, where around the time she was in step by step, that's another thing you should watch Lisa and trust. But Lisa is about a teenage girl who sort of randomly prank phone calls dudes and pretends to be all into them. And in this one, she gets the wrong guy and he starts trying to kill her. It was a really good movie. It sounds a little bit annoying. Yeah, Stacey Keenan. It sounds very familiar. I would have gone with Brooklyn Bridge, which was a great show. You know, I remember watching that show, but I didn't want to say it because I couldn't really remember that much about it. It's Gary David Goldberg, who created Family Ties, and it takes place in the 60s. It was very one of the years. I loved it, I remember. Yeah, and it's about him growing up. He has a sequence of him on the wood of the bridge and the opening credits walking across it. It was a great show. I couldn't really remember what it was about. Good production values. But I could see an 11-year-old nominee and it would make me seem a little boring. Yeah, like I liked it, but I still love stuff set in like the 60s and 50s is my favorite era. Oh, you should re-watch Brooklyn Bridge. I think you'd enjoy it. Definitely. Very good show. 9 o'clock guessing you went with Perfect Strangers? An hour? Was it always an hour? No, this is a special episode. This is a special episode, and here's why. After Marianne beats Jennifer in childbirth, Jennifer races to the county's fair hot air balloon ride, hoping it'll induce labor. So this was the last season of Perfect Strangers. They both were married. They both moved in together with their respective wives into that big Victorian house. Yeah, I remember that. It's if Perfect Strangers couldn't get worse. This was the absolute worst season. Yeah. And I think this was, if Memory Serves, the final episode where they have children. I could be wrong, but I think this was the last episode. And that was one of those shows that went too long, like it should have. It went way too long. And I've heard this is like a second hand. I think maybe even third hand story, but they were doing, I heard it from a comic that I worked with, who heard it from a comic that he worked with. Oh, so it's probably totally true. It's totally, totally true. But it was like when they'd film the final episode, he was in the audience when they filmed the final episode of Our Radio Life, we're continuing. And the crowd was trying to get Balki to do like one last. Remember that dance he's... The Bibi Bobka dance. Yeah. The Dance of Joy. They were trying to get him to do it. Like they were chanting it. Yeah. And he was too overcome with emotion to do it. And he had to just, and it was like one of those things where they were like, "Come on, let's not do it." And he was just like, "I can't." And he actually never did it. See, now I believe that's probably true, because what a boring thing to tell anyone. Like that's not like, "I got a great story. Are you telling me like, why is that even a story?" The story was like, "He's such a dick. He just wouldn't do it." Oh, come on. He was overcome with emotion. What an asshole. Have you seen The Brunson Pinchot Project, his new show? No. He basically bought an entire town in Pennsylvania. And he's just been having guys fix it up. Fix it up? But he's into Greek revivalism. Architecture. So he just gets this like reclaimed stuff. Give you a lot of money? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. When he was on Perfect Strangers, that was the last time you could really make just set for life money. Because you would get all the rerun money. You would renegotiate. I mean, it was on for six seasons in the prime of, and it was also the rerun money you're getting. It was in every market and first, and syndication individually, and then also on stuff like TBS and TNT. So you're getting double-paid with that. He's got to be well off. Wow. Plus, he's got that Beverly Hills cop money. True romance. He was so good at it. Probably got a huge paycheck from Migo. Now, he does seem like a dick, though. I would not be surprised if he's a dick. He might be. I don't know. Again, in second sight, which on Lara-Kette? Yeah. That's wrapped in Boston. My move at 9 o'clock would have been a movie I really love and recognize it as not being a good movie on lifetime, weirdly, of all things. Science fiction movie from 1988, even though it sat on the shelf for three years, it was released in 1988, but made in '85. Cherry 2000. Oh, this is one of those boner-inducing boxes at the video. Did you ever see the actual movie? This is one I probably brought to my mom at the counter five times. I don't know. You know, this has come really good. That's about fruit. And she was just like, oh, thank you so. The plot of this, I could tell you the plot, but I'll read it here. A desert guide is pitted against futuristic bad guys when she's hired to replace her client's robotic wife. So this guy takes place in the future. Maybe the future of Star Trek the next generation throwing up. Yeah, probably. And people have sex bots. And this guy is doing his robotic wife in the dishwasher and she gets wet and dies. So he tries to take her memory disk and find a new chassis and they have to go into like the forbidden zone and he hires Melanie Griffith. Yeah, it's a pretty entertaining movie, if not, if not a good movie. Absolutely. And I remember the box clearly. It's very odd that it aired on Lifetime. That's the thing that really is not a very pro woman movie. It's not it was a fledgling new network back then. So maybe they were struggling to fill out. Yeah, I guess that's very, very odd. Also stars Harry, Carrie, Jr. Whoa. I will say this for some reason, TV guides giving it two stars or as a lady dragon only out one. Yeah, what's up with that? Maybe it's the word lady ran in it. Yeah, I mean, Cherry 2000, I think Lady Dragon would have been a much better movie for Lifetime to Air. Cherry 2000 did probably do better box office. Sure, 2000 actually went straight to video. It didn't have a theatrical run as far as I know. Wow. So there you go. Well, well, that is in America. In America. Yeah. So it's Europe. It's huge. That is the week. And so as we wrap up, as we know, TV guide does not just inform us about what is on every week. Tell them. It has opinions. TV guide cheers so much and TV guide cheers. So I will read this week's cheers and cheers. And I'd like to see if you agree or disagree. Oh, can't wait. TV guide cheers and cheers from July 31st, 1993. First cheers to a study aid. Some of us wish we had back when we took our SATs. This fall, some smart pay for you folks are offering a 90 minute PSAT SAT, college admissions preparation guide. You can watch TV and bone up on life altering exams. Oh, that's going to have to be so fun. Yeah, that's definitely a cheers and it's pay per view. So how much do you think it was like $39.95? At the very least. Yeah. Imagine like the P like, remember how much that stuff that crap costs? Oh, yeah. Just the books. Why I built the black box. So, uh, no, I mean, like the book, remember when you were taking the SATs? Oh, I never bought any of the books. They were like $45, $50. I remember I showed up on two hours of sleep and I got an almost an 800 on the English and like a 200 on the math, which I retook. Yeah, I didn't do bad on it, but I did better. I took it twice. I had better the first time. Yeah, I only took the math again and I did better on that. Uh, I also make it whose mom bought that for him and made him want to sit here and watch this paper. We're going to watch it to get there and take that. And he's like, I wish you could have bought Foxy boxing instead of pay per view. Years to the rain delay, the network seemed to call in covering the floods in Mississippi River Valley earlier this month. What? Apparently there was floods in Mississippi Valley. The networks didn't cover it. Well, that's, I mean, the networks dropped the ball. That was, it was like Katrina in a Mississippi Valley. Yeah. Uh, I don't know how Spike Lee missed this. This is, this is crying out for a movie of the week, the documentary of that week in Mississippi Valley floods. And who would have thought the Mississippi River would over run its banks? Awful. Never happened. Uh, we have another cheer and another cheer, uh, cheers to a pop culture meeting that seems, if not inevitable, at least blessed Mickey Mouse and Charlie Brown. Starting this fall, the mouse's Disney channel, place host to 58 of the bald headed kids animated TV specials and acquisition Mickey's flax are rightly calling one of the greatest libraries of family entertainment. So basically Disney bought Charlie Brown and they're saying that's great. And that's great. I think I'd jeer that. I think I'd have to disagree with that. That's a jeer. That's a jeer. And finally, the jeer this week for TV guide is jeers to the forward march of technology that often feels the tech because it's just technology. Yeah. It's this year. It's an end to have a 48 page rent. That often feels like a scramble specifically the battle over those new incompatible video formats based on compact discs that make the old beta VHS war seem like a thumb wrestling from Philip CDi to Sega CD to Panasonic's 3DO player. There'll be no fewer than seven different CD based platforms this spring that are supposed to be the big step in TV use from movies to games to infotainment. Cheers in general for science. That's the best thing in the whole issue. So they don't want to be listen. We're not crazy. Right. Well, I expect us to plunk down 300 to a thousand dollars so those giants can settle their format wars. Hey, couldn't you guys guess a kid would have a pack man tournament amongst themselves? Wow. So I'm going to have to agree with that jeer. I was going to say like at first I was like, well, they're a little bit kind of old-fashioned here at TV guide. But then they were all they were saying was like, hey, pick one and go with. Yeah, they're not. I mean, they said cheers for science in general. And they were right 3DO that none of that stuff lasted. No, my friend had a 3DO machine and they pay. I was actually at their house like a week ago and I was like, hey, would you guys pay for that 3DO machine that you had? And they were like, he's like, remember my little brother? Her dollars. Remember he disappears. Redman. Yeah. Came back. All right. Well, we'll noon and thank you for being on the TV guidance concert this week. My pleasure. Fine works. There you go comedian, marijuana enthusiast and diabetes sufferer. Well, really phantom diabetes sufferer. He really has a frequent urination. I think it's unrelated to the diabetes will noon and everybody again. You can find him at willnoonin.com. And as always, you can find us at TVguidenscounselor.com. You can find me at icanread.com. We have the TV guidance counselor Facebook page or @TVguidens at Twitter. TV guidance counselor at Gmail. Ken and I can read. 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