TV Guidance Counselor
TV Guidance Counselor Episode 13: Danny Tamberelli
You have a TV? No. I don't like to read the TV Guide. Read the TV Guide. You don't need a TV. ♪ Double visit made it ♪ ♪ Double visit made it ♪ ♪ Double visit made it ♪ ♪ Ah ♪ (upbeat music) Hello and welcome to TV Guidance Counselor. My name is Ken Reed. I am your TV Guidance Counselor. And thank you so much for checking out the show. If you're here for the first time due to my excellent guest this week, welcome. I hope you enjoy the show and I think you'll want to check out some old episodes or some episodes in the future. For those of you who are regular listeners, you are in for a treat. My guest this week, Mr. Danny Tamberelli. AKA Little Pete from the Adventures of Pete and Pete, as you well know, one of my all-time favorite shows. This was a huge deal for me. He's a great guy, he's a really nice kid and I really enjoyed talking to him. I think you're going to enjoy hearing our conversation. So please enjoy this week's episode of TV Guidance Counselor with my guest, Danny Tamberelli. (upbeat music) Mr. Dan Tamberelli, Danny, thank you so much for doing the show. My pleasure. It's nice to take a little trip down the Stow-Jillane. Yes, that's where I live in a Stow-Jillane. Normally this is the point that you only welcome people to my home but I'm on the road. It's your producer, Jeremy, it was nice enough to-- You're on our trip now, my trip. And we've been recently plied with wontons and fried dumplings, so if we're slightly lethargic, it's we have bellies full of kimchi. That's true. That's very true. And I didn't have the kimchi, though. No, I did, I did. I have two bellies. That's why I use the-- I'm like a cow, that's why. So if I start cut chewing throughout the show, that's what it is, it's nothing else. And so you packed a TV guide from the week of November 23rd, 1991. And you did have a limited selection because I can only take a mobile group with me. But what drew you to this particular issue? Well, Madonna's on the door of Madonna. It's the height of her hottest. Oh, yes. Yes, this is when she really got the big eyebrows but was still looking pretty good. That's right, yes, she did. Those are beefy eyebrows. These are book shields in an eyebrows. This is post Dick Tracy, Madonna. Post Dick Tracy. Yeah, but pre-rotica Madonna. Tracy, Tracy, Tracy. This is not rubbing Lenny Kravitz's crotch in a video Madonna, but she's still classy. So you'd mention earlier too that you didn't think you would watch much TV at this time 'cause you were working all the time. Yeah, I was. I definitely was, especially like '91, is we're doing a lot of peeping peat stuff. 'Cause you're doing the shorts and then the special, right? Yeah, we just do a bunch of the shorts. Actually, this should probably be a time that I was around 'cause I believe this is the week of Thanksgiving. It's Thanksgiving week, yeah. Because what I did see on the Friday of the week, you know? Bam, there's Christmas. Like, here's Rudolph the red-nosed reindeer right there. As soon as it's over. Boom. But that's how it should be. Yeah, 'cause people need to-- It's now, it's after Halloween, everyone sleeps over. Thanksgiving, they're going right to Christmas. You're gonna make that money. You're gonna make that money for Christmas gifts. I always imagine when-- Spoiler alert, Santa doesn't exist. He doesn't, and Christmas happens every December. We ruined it at the end of it. I always wondered if there was some old person when the nightmare before Christmas came out who was like, they've ruined Halloween with this Christmas so early now. Goddamn it. We're just probably-- We might've been a couple. We might've been a few. That might've been a few. Guy looked like Robert Smith from the Cure, maybe. Yeah, who was mad that they ruined Halloween Christmas. Oh, yes. What's next? So, the thing that's weird to me about, I'm obviously not an actor. I'm very bad at acting and was definitely not a child actor, but I am a huge TV fan. And I honestly knew that TV wasn't real, but it was easy for me to get lost in the stories. And when you sort of saw how this stuff was made, did it ruin that stuff for you? Were you able to still kind of-- I don't think it really ruined it for me. I think you can still go to that place. I just don't want to that place. It wasn't harder or anything. No, it was just-- No, it was Justin. Yeah, I mean, I guess I-- Yeah, I guess that's a weird thing to think about. Yeah, like I was watching everything happen. I mean, that's when I would, like, I would watch "Pete and Pea" because I thought it was fun to watch, but I also really liked watching what-- What you made. The final product was, because everything is shot out of sequins. Right, right. Which might've made it easier for you to get lost in it because you almost didn't have a picture of what it looked like while you were doing it. Right, yeah, you didn't. I mean, you just really-- So you knew what was going to happen, but to be able to see the way things are cut up and what shots you use as opposed to, like, you know. So you could watch it and enjoy it and get lost in it and not just be obsessed with, like, "Oh, look at me." Oh, yeah, 100%. Yeah, I know, I never, I always feel kind of weird when I see myself on TV for some reason. Well, I think everybody does, if they aren't on TV. Not everybody, 'cause everyone's on TV. But, and then "Pete and Pea" didn't do it. But LL Cool J thinks he's pretty cool every time he watches TV. Well, he knows. He just sits there and he goes to-- To his name. To his name. To his name. They still do it. Yeah, exactly. You get reinforcement every day. Well, yeah, I mean, that's LL, man. (laughs) I mean, unless you're cool, Mo-D, you love LL Cool. Big, upset LL, man. I know how he was on "Pete and Pea." He was, yeah, he was the substitute teacher. He sure was. Yeah. What happens to you? I was just kidding, man. I was just kidding. It wasn't the "Journey United" episode. I can't remember the episode that he was in now. No, it was the one where I, uh, sick day. Oh, yeah, sick day. Got that. Yes, we got the thing I know. It was because Kelly had also in that episode came back as "Snowplowman" in "Snowday." Yeah. Sadly, not a "Pete and Pea" movie, but it's a show. No, it could have been. Yeah. It was supposed to be. Yeah, I know. I wish. I saw that movie in theaters. I used to, when I was in college, I didn't have class on Tuesdays, so I'd go to the movies and I'd go to the first show and get like 10 a.m. And usually it was the only one in the theater. And so for "Snowday," it was during school vacation week, and it was like this grandmother and her kids in there. And I'm sitting in the back in a hoodie, like, unshaven, and I'm laughing because it's a funny movie. I'm laughing like four or five seconds after a funny part, which just made it worse. We're so-- They left like a half hour into the movie because I ruined that movie for them. So-- Don't look. There's a peter. There's a peter behind you. I don't know what this person is doing. I don't know. He's got a beard and a hoodie on. He's laughing when he's not supposed to laugh. This is a children's film. He shouldn't be in here. Yeah. Yeah, I've read all collators in that episode. And you never did a Christmas episode till season three, so this was-- Yes. Which was the infamous "garbage man" episode. Right. Well, that was the first and only full-length episode version we did. Oh, that was a short. There was no Christmas peed. There was the others. Yeah, yeah, yeah. About the Yule log. Yes, exactly. The cheese log. That is a great one. Let's jump right in. Saturday night, eight o'clock, what'd you go with? I went with Bob Newhart, anniversary version. It was an original Bob Newhart show. Dude, yeah, that's my parents brought me up on that. So I very much thought he was amazing. He's still great. Yeah, he's still great. This is controversial, but I think Newhart's better than the Bob Newhart show. The Vermont Newhart in the end, the second series. Oh. I like it better. I like it better. I love the Bob Newhart show, but it's not a popular opinion. Yeah, that's definitely you're going against the grain. Yeah, I am. But I think it was a fun thing. I do both, so. They're both great. But I think, I mean, part of it is because I'm inherently biased towards New England set shows being from the-- Being from New England? Yes. And also, I enjoy it. You don't do it right. It's not correct. I just enjoyed the-- it was much weirder show. Oh, damn it. Back to one of the things I literally repeat. It was the sort of bizarre characters that seemed not cartoonish, but was like just appealed to me for whatever reason. Oh, yeah. I mean, they were figments of your imagination. Yeah, so like shape and form. Exactly. Bob Newhart's a figure of my imagination. You've seen him too. You've seen him too. This special aired because, weirdly, Newhart had just ended. Right. This was like the 20th anniversary special. The Bob Newhart show. Right. So they aired it after the Newhart series finale, which was that famous finale where he woke up all over the whole thing. The whole thing was a dream. So this special, a lot of people forget about, it actually picks up from that. Right. From that, I actually remember it. Yeah. And it's unusual in a reunion special because a lot of them will be more like interview talking heads kind of thing. But this was a narrative in character reunion special. Right. It's very weird. It's a good show. Kind of full hour. Yes, a full hour of Bob Newhart. So I think he made a good move there. Pass up growing pains at 8.30, which is a particular favorite of mine, despite anyone not being the best year. Leonardo Caprio was in the cast. Oh, right. Right. It's the Loop Rower homeless teen who lives in a high school. Oh. Yeah. I missed that one. Because it was an hour. So I had to... You had to watch it. It was the first thing I picked and later on I figured out a way to maybe... You found a loophole. I think I've found a loophole, but I'm not sure. So nine o'clock would you go with? Nine o'clock I went with watching Funny Farm. So I went... Who's your face fan? My Saturday. Speaking of snow day, who's this fan? Speaking of snow day. Not the best. No, not a great Chevy Chase movie, but I thought Funny Farm was good. Also, we had... Oh, I don't want to say this. I don't want to get shot by people in the post office. Okay. But we had a disgruntled male guy who used to deliver our mail and would... A male guy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's a male guy. Yeah, it's just a male guy, you know, who would, you know, not throw the mail all the way in the mailbox. Okay. Like, knock shit over, like, stuff would come out crumpled. He was just a psycho. Yeah, no, so I could relate to, you know... Specifically, the funny car. His painting strived with that same guy, you know, messing up his mail all the time. We had a mailman named Virgil who used to steal our free samples. And I would see him do it. The little box is a serial fabric softener. I would see him do it. And no one believed me. I tried to blow the whistle. Didn't, wouldn't worry. They don't believe kids. Yeah, they don't believe kids. It's a real shame. It's a real shame. So my kids should be committing more crimes. Yeah, because who's gonna believe? That's what I'm saying. I would have not come with money for it. It's not, it's definitely not my favorite Chevy Chase movie. I was nine years old, okay? And it was one of my... That's understandable. No, that's fine. You stood by it. I was eleven. I'd seen it. Here's why, though. Now, normally I would have probably watched empty nests on a Saturday night. Okay. 30, the spin off of Golden Girls. And, you know, it's funny. I didn't put that on here at all. And I liked watching that show a lot. Yeah, well, who didn't like the dog Dreyfus? And Richard Mulligan's just likeable. Likeable guy. He's great in the Heavenly Kid. Probably the best dead teenager helps another teenager get laid movie ever made. I'll go out and know him and say that. But I would have known if they had a special CBS presentation that was called a party for Richard Pryor. Oh, yeah. So this was the tribute to him when it had come out that he had the MS. Right. And this was great shows. And I'll start casting. You know, when everybody found out that he was getting high on drugs. Yes, when he was on fire. So this has burnt rattles in it. Patti Labelle, Stevie Wonder, Kean and every Lanes, Eddie Murphy are sending a whole Chevy Chase. Your favorite Chevy Chase. Have you ever met Chevy Chase? No, never met Chevy Chase. I never have either. But I would have watched that. I mean, it's a one night only thing. I love Richard Pryor as a big fan. Yeah. You know, I saw that as like the good look that if I wrote that on here, it'd be like the cool points. Right. But I also did this whole thing, not necessarily thinking about being an adult. Right. It's what you thought you would have watched then. I mean, I was nine. I don't think I was necessarily not into Richard Pryor, but I just didn't know about him. No, I didn't think. Yeah. Because you had good parents who kept you away from him. Get me away from him. Yeah. But Eddie Murphy I knew all about. That's awesome. I guess it's not that different. Yeah. Had you seen like Raw and like his Spanish special song? I mean, nine, I didn't. See, my dad brought me up on like BBC stuff. So I was like watching Black Adder and Money Python at like a very young age. No, he's just into that stuff. That's what you were talking about. That was a huge... Did you used to watch the young ones? The young ones? Oh man. The young ones is probably my favorite 80s BBC comedy. And it was almost like a punk rock monkey. Oh, really? Oh, definitely. That was amazing about that. You got it. MTV used to air it before like 120 minutes and stuff sometimes. And sometimes they'd air it in a block with the monkeys. And what it was was it was all the sort of alternative comics we started at this place called the comic strip in London. It was at Edmondson and Rick Mail. It was sort of a sketch. It was what five students that lived in a house. But like Motorhead was on it and the damned. Oh, what? Yeah, because they... So they got the show as a sitcom and they found out that the BBC, if you did a variety show, you got a higher budget. So they'd have a band play. So it would be the sitcom about these students living in a house and then they'd be like, "Oh, here's the damn." And then they'd just play us home. And they got a bigger budget by doing that. And it was sort of a sketch show. So you had like Robbie Coltrane on it. And Hugh Laurie and... Jesus. And Matamson's on it. It's an awesome thing. I can't believe I missed all that. You got to see the young ones, man. Your dad did your disservice, not sure what to do. Wow. We're showing you the reveal at it. I'll see you in a moment. Talk to him. Yeah, please do. It was like Volty Towers, Blackadder, and... That's still good stuff. All the Blackadder wanted a depressing show. I don't know why I like it so much. It was great. But that's grim for kids. Oh, for sure. I would rather have my kids see Eddie Murphy swearing and then watching Blackadder where the life is futile. Yeah. It has no point dead. Oh. My God. It's a really dry British humor. Yeah. And it leads you thinking about how there's no point in most things. So you... What was the first thing you started acting in? How old were you? I was six, the first thing I did. And it was in New Jersey. I grew up in New Jersey. Yeah, I did a commercial. It was some... A toy commercial when I was six. Did you get free toys for me? No, they didn't give me the free toy. That's bullshit. Yeah. I got to go to Toys R Us though and get to pick out whatever I wanted. That's pretty awesome. Like after hours or something? No. No. No, no. It was just like that was my... Oh, my parents did that. Do you remember what you picked out? Yeah, usually G.I. Joe's. I was a big G.I. A huge G.I. Joe guy. You didn't have the aircraft carrier, did you? No, I didn't have the aircraft. That was cool. I wasn't like... Yeah. That was like the rich kid down the street. Oh, absolutely. Yeah. I had Castle Grayskull. That was the biggest. I had Castle Grayskull too. And Snake Mountain. Oh. Yeah. We had a store. I grew up in this place called Melrose. We were actually... Chris Kotch is from... Yeah. Stop. Yeah. That's awesome. There was a store in that town called The Children's Exchange, which sounds kind of creepy. But it was basically a store even trading old toys for credit to get new toys. So I would get all the hot toys, but like three years later. Right. So I got like a used Snake Mountain and all that stuff. That's how I would get it. So I also, being a Nickelodeon, I was obsessed with super toy runs, which I think you might have discontinued by the 90s. They were a big 80s thing. I remember it. I think it was probably in the early 90s, it probably still. Dude, I had a... I would go to Toys R Us. I would map it out. I would have a plan. I would time might... Like, if my parents... My parents would just leave me in the Toys R Us. And sell it. Like we're going to whatever shop for pants. So they were just leaving the Toys and be like, "We're back in an hour." I would grab a cart with a stopwatch and time it out and then just leave the cart and see what I could get. Like I was training with a super toy run that never happened. And this kid comes in here every Tuesday and he takes all this stuff off the fucking show. Yeah. He's pushing on this set. He must be some kind of loyal Baron. And then he just leaves. It's bullshit. That's pretty cool. So you student commercial and then what was the first TV series that you run? It was a soap opera, right? I was on, yeah. Ryan's Hope. Which is now defunct. It is defunct as most soap operas are at this point. Well, did you ever seen the show before you were on it? No. No. My parents, my mom watched it and my grandmother used to watch it all day. They explained to you like, "Oh, this character is... Well, yeah, because I was one of the main guys' son and then they decided to kick him off the show and he got killed and so then he left with that father and... So you were still on it? He was dead. Yeah, after he was dead, they had to tell me that my dad died and I did that scene where like little kids were like, "My shit is..." Was that like, did that like scar you? No, I know. No, you were just like, whatever. No, I just had a lot of fun. Yeah. Honestly, man, it was exactly that. I was just having fun and like it wasn't, you know, it was very cool for the guy to be like, "Okay, now I should be sad, I'm gonna be sad, I'm gonna be sad now." If I can go to Toys R Us after this, I will be sad as you will. That's really weird. So it didn't affect how you watch TV, which is good to know, because that was one of my fears where I'm like, "Oh, these people, they know how it's made." So then it's like, "Yeah, it's just workmen, I'm not getting involved." It's not that Ryan's hope was something you probably would have got there, but it's not Santa Barbara. It was still like that kid's it. Hey. Ryan's hope was on for a long time. It was, absolutely. It was on for a very long time. A lot of people liked it. Yeah. And they had a call quits for whatever reason. Are you still in touch with anyone that was, I don't know. No, I don't know. Yeah. Yeah. Cause a lot of, I was like six, I was like six or seven. Yeah. I mean, I don't know why. Six year olds aren't like, "Hey, let's keep in touch." Yeah. Where's my number? Hey, let me give you my beep or not. Yeah. Sunday night, the Lord's Day. What did you go with at eight o'clock? That was hard. That Sunday night was kind of, kind of... It's tough. That Sunday was bad. That was a bad Sunday. It was a bad Sunday. So it's November 24th. You know, you're going to have some time off from school. A little bit of time off, but you still got to do, you still come in Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday. Yeah, we're jumble. You do that, yeah. I went with an hour block set up only because I saw it as the only things I would have actually watched on TV were America's Funniest, Insert, Videos, or People. America's Funniest People was basically YouTube. Yeah. But America's Funniest People was basically YouTube. Yeah. But America's Funniest People was basically YouTube. Yeah. But America's Funniest People was actually watching. I actually still think it was. I never laughed more than when I watched America's Funniest Some Videos. And I'm really interested. I know. It's okay. It's a little bit... You feel weird doing it because you're like, it's such an easy... It is, but it's just... But it's great. It's pure. It's pure entertainment. It's... It's animalistic. It really is. It's a great... It's a primal thing. You're like, wow, that guy's just got hit in the nuts with it. Oh, that was great. The first four legged mammal that crawled out of the oo is saw someone get hit in the crotch and laughed. 100%. 100%. I think I saw that on Nature. That was on PBS. Yes. And the "America's Funniest People" was the spin-off with Dave Kool-A and Arlene Sorkin, who later went on to be on Batman and made it serious to do the voice of Harley Quinn. She has a lot of voiceover work now, which you've also done a lot of cartoon stuff. I watched it, but wasn't a huge fan of the "America's Funniest People." They had the jackalope. I remember that was the big. It was like these weird little shorts they did with a jackalope, which is a rabbit with deer antlers. And Dave Kool-A would do the voice, and that was like that big... Oh! I do remember that. Yeah. I totally remember that. Straight puppet. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And it was like very popular. Right. Oh, yeah. Very weird reason. I want to mention, there was a very special event on it, 9 o'clock. I don't know if you picked it. So what did you go with at 9, and then I'll see if you skipped over this one. Oh, I definitely did. I definitely did, because I went with NFL prime time because I was definitely... Big sports way and way into football. Was that something you watched? Like with your dad? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So who was your team? I know nothing about supposed to watch. I'm a New York Giants. Okay. Does New Jersey have a football team? Oh, they have New Jersey. New York Giants. Where do they get? They're defected. So do the Jets. But I don't think about them. I was thinking about the Giants. Okay. Did you just go to games and stuff? Yeah. Well, my dad has had season tickets since I was a little kid. It ruined my soccer game. You would just not go to the game? Well, it was like, do you want to go play soccer, do you want to go with dad and go to the New York Giants game? To the New York Giants game. Yeah. Yeah, I'm going. I'm going to the game and kill my career. I could have been... You could have been Paylay. Well, nobody's Paylay, but Paylay. Well, I don't know. I don't know if you go to the message. I'd be Zadon or something. I'd be the guy that got in trouble later for doing some of that. A lot of people are like, Danny Tamarilla, you could have been the next Paylay. She was seeing this kid. And then someone was like, "No, Danny, you can't leave. You got it. You got it. We need you for this game." And you're like, "I'm going to play football, man. Real American football. None of this European football." I'm going to play football. Yeah. Foosball. Foosball. Foosball. So what you passed up was a movie based on a true story, which there's a huge ad here which all scans people can see, called Dead and Alive, not Dead or Dead and Alive, starring Tony Dancer. Yeah. This says the mob wants him dead. The feds want him alive. Now he's running out of places to hide ABC Sunday Night movie. Nobody watched this. Wow. Yeah. Nobody watched it. Yeah. No one was like, "You know, I'm Irish and Italian. I grew up in North Jersey. I don't need to see any of that mob crap." No. And you don't need to see any of that Tony Dancer crap. Mostly the Tony Dancer in the mob. Yeah. Other mob stuff. You know, I can hang a good fellas. Yeah. But Tony Dancer mobster. No one was like, "You know, I'm waiting for Tony Dancer movie stuff." He was in one -- he was in several movies actually. One with the mob. Angela. Moona. He was in a movie around 1991 with Amy Dolan's, Mickey Dolan's daughter, called She's Out of Control, that was like his big attempt at being a comedic film actor and it did not work. Don't sound like it was going to work. It did not work. It was going to get the kid from whose dad was in the monkeys. And she's kind of hot. She's kind of hot. She was going to get Tony Dancers. It is 100% guaranteed to be a blockbuster film. She gets -- the plot of that movie is she gets -- she's like a dork with braces and glasses, gets made over, and then is really hot and everyone wants to have sex with her. And Tony Dancer is not happy about that because this is daughter. That's the plot of the movie. I won the soundtrack to that movie on a radio station. I still have it. I have a soundtrack L.P. She's out of control. The movie. The great O and Go Bongo track. That wasn't released anywhere else. All right. That's fair. Kind of worth it for that. Cool. But yeah. Danny Elfman deep cuts. Danny Elfman deep cuts. I don't think anyone requests that at shows. She's out of control. The title track. She's out of control. It's one of my favorite songs. Tony Dancer movie star. No one wanted any piece of that. So I love little girls, they make me happy and they're like, you know what, can you turn it down? Yeah. Turn that down a little bit. Turn that down. I can rewrote it. I think Dylan was later, about three years later, she was in a movie called Miracle Beach with Dean Cameron where she played a sexy genie. And that was it. That was it. That's all you need. They go into the pitch and they go, Amy, Dylan, sexy genie, green light. That's why I'm still alive. I'm still I'm waiting for my sexy genie and then that's it and then it's over. Everything's over. I go to the beach every Sunday with a metal detector hoping I find a bottle with a genie in it to this day and I hope to sue them about that. There's a comedy special on that night at 10 o'clock with Paul Rodriguez crossing gang lines. Oh, and the premise of this is Paul Rodriguez did a show for 150 gang members, Bloods and Crips in the audience. That's the premise of this comedy show. That's insane. And it says, see 150 gang members in stitches tonight, comedian Paul Rodriguez faces the toughest audiences of career, gangs of the streets of Los Angeles with special guest public enemy. That is one of the most insane comedy specials that no one could be real. I don't believe that that was real though, they just got 150 people to dress up in blue and red and sit and look like they were going to beat the crap out of Paul Rodriguez. I don't know, so they call this a docu-comedy. The comedian entertains and interviews members of Los Angeles' gangs who discussed their day-to-day existence and why they've chosen the life also, rap performance group Public Enemy and actor Jamie Foxx. What a weird concept. I guess this was right after the riots, so maybe they were trying to try to do some healing. Yeah, do a little healing. I've never seen that. I would love to see that. I want to talk about this down. I feel like I would be good at telling whether or not. It was really not. Yeah. Do you ever... Snake Eyes is really Snake Eyes. His name is Johnathan. Yes, he's like well, I was gang member number six and the Paul Rodriguez special. I was gang member number 162. You may remember me. I laughed at his joke about Latinos. You may have seen me. I'm very good. I'm a very good actor. Yeah, I'm going to try to hunt that down. That sounds insane. That sounds really insane. I didn't read it because it was 10 o'clock. Did you have a definitive bedtime when you were a kid? Not really, sort of. I mean, if I was up like super late, they'd be like, get the bed. What's the matter with you? That's kind of how my parents were. But you have not two younger sisters. Okay. So normally the get to bed whenever is for the youngest by the time they've given up. But for the first child, that's fine. No, it was all right. No, it didn't. Didn't worry. Yeah. Didn't worry worried. Did you have one TV in the house, or did you have several? Oh, it's several. Okay. So you didn't have to compromise on anything. You can watch it very well. Well, depending on where you wanted to watch it, you know, sometimes you have to grab the TV from the attic. There's the sick TV and bring it down to your room and watch it. When you were sick or the TV was sick? No, when I was sick or any of my, we weren't allowed to have TVs in our rooms. I guess that's good, Patrick. So they would, if you were sick, you get sick TV in your own. Right, because you're lying in bed, you're like, "Uh, I got the chicken box, uh." This is marker. You just wanted to watch a basin. I remember having the sick TV in, I guess it was in '94 when O.J. Simpson was getting chased in the Bronco. I was sick that day, or that, you know, I'd been sick that weekend. So I had the TV in my room, and I remember watching that being like, "What the hell's going on?" Yeah. What's happening? Yeah. What? Okay. No. Because you were a football fan, so you knew him. Oh, yeah. I knew O.J. Simpson from... They could gun? Yeah. Yeah. Was the ads he did, ironically? Oh, hurt. His rental car? Yeah. I think that's what he did. And he was in a... He had a cameo on the movie Back to the Beach, which was like one of my favorite movies from 1989, Frankie Elan and that from the cello. Oh, shit. It's a parody of their 60s beach party movies, but it's actually really funny and sort of lovingly homaging the show, and he has a cameo in that in the airport, and it's a little creepy now when you watch it. A little bit creepy. Why does he be a little aggressive? Yeah. Yeah. He gets his hand and gets stepped on, and he's like, "My hands!" And it's like a... Oh, his hands. It's... Frankie. The glove doesn't fit. You should... You should... That's the beach. Uh, great. Laurie Loughlin's in that from Full House. It's a... Wow. It's a great cast. P.B. Herman has a... He does a cover of Surfing Bird in that, which is gross came out as a single, which I have on Vine. Oh, thank God. Yeah. That's fantastic. 8 o'clock, Monday night, Monday night's the saddest night of the week. You've gone back to school, you've gone back to work, you needed something to take you away. Yeah. What do you get with it, A? Oh, I went with Fresh Prince. Did you love Fresh Prince? Yeah. Uh, everyone loved Fresh Prince. Yeah. This is like the second year of Fresh Prince. It was great. I was a big fan of parents, don't just don't understand, obviously the first sort of breakthrough Fresh Prince single. So I really was excited when that show came on, and then I watched like the first season and I kind of trailed off a little bit, because I wanted it to be more like the videos. It was a little too silly. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. It was a little too straightforward for me. Yeah. I was like, this is... There's not weird old ladies with men's voices. There's not like fish eye lenses. Where's Freddy Krueger? I want Nightmare on my street. How did you feel about the replacement of the moms on Fresh Prince? Again, I didn't really bother you. You didn't notice. Like, I knew, you clearly tell, my parents always watched B-Witch, and when they switched Dick York and Dick Sargent, that's a little kid, I was like, they can just do that? And I was like, oh yeah, no, sometimes... So that's true. I was like, oh, okay. So I just didn't... So you knew that it was an active thing, you weren't like, why are they different? Right, right. Yeah. So in some respects, you were better off in that case, because for me, I was like, what? You would? You'd mess your old brain up. Yeah. At least I could have some sort of explanation where I was like, it's probably some kind of witch thing. It might be the same kind of space change and never went back. But Fresh Prince, there was no metaphysical description, you could go out there. So this episode of the Fresh Prince is, Bill Bivdavo performs... Oh my gosh. I probably would have gotten in trouble if you were watching this. Because they would have been doing it. Did your parents legitimately, would you get in trouble watching that, or would you just feel like you were gonna get in trouble? Oh, I feel like it was gonna get in trouble. So this one... I only used to really get in trouble when I was like, hardcore on MTV. Yeah. Like, is that the 90s? Right, and that would come on, or like, I want you to know, watch you. You know, watching all the video. Do I want to sex you up video? Okay, I'm on. I was like, what's the difference? I just used to learn. Oh, yeah, well. But it's a little kid, and I was like, oh my God, I'm messing with this. I was just going to the S word. Yeah, exactly. They just said the S word. Whoa. In Boston, I got to go to this Grammy party at the opening of the House of Blues, and two members of Belblinville were like sitting behind me and I lost my shit. I was like, this is... I can't believe it. Oh, it was a bell biv. It was a biv, biv, and a devo. Nice. It was pretty. We didn't have the third, but it was... It's okay. Yeah. We got two thirds. It's good. And they're two out of three in bed. That's what we love, says. Meatloaf. And that was about Belblinville. Meatloaf. Meatloaf. [laughter] Meatloaf was the biggest Belblinville fan. He's like, you know, it was really good in a new edition. But when you guys went solo, which you can't really do is three people, but when you guys, but that's Meatloaf. When you guys went solo, I really got on board, and Bobby Brown took a hike. I was into it. Yeah. Great. This is a great episode. I distinctly remember this because I was a big Belblinville fan. I loved poison. Great stuff. Yeah. You passed up Evening Shade, clearly not a Bert Reynolds fan. I mean... Yeah. Yeah. It's not a kids show. People don't like... Kids don't like Bert Reynolds. Kids don't like Bert Reynolds. No. No. The only thing I like Bert Reynolds is a little kid was watching Gumball Rally. Cannonball Rally? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I like this. Is he good for me? That's funny. So, I want to go with that. 830, what'd you go with? I went to my good old Nickelodeon channel for Superman. Classic Superman George Reeves. Yeah. Superherence really educated you in classic TV in a lot of ways. Yeah. I knew a lot. Yeah. I watched a lot of that stuff with him. And Nick and Knight was... Nick and Knight was cool for me. Yeah. It was great. Yeah. It will go on. You'll see. Oh, did you went with more of these things? You were just saying Nick and Knight in general, like you don't ever die. Right. It's like you're now. It's like Nick and Knight will go on. Nick and Knight will go on. It's never going away. You know, it's really weird. That was called TV Land. TV Land. This will probably make you feel old because it makes me feel old. But in 1991, those Superman episodes were probably, well, Superman may be not a great example because that was the late '50s, but it wasn't that much of a time difference between now and when Pete and Pete was on. Yeah, that. So if there's a nine-year-old kid watching that show, it just blew my mind. Like when you were watching Superman, which is crazy. Right. Because of George Reeves, Superman. I guess the world was very different in 1959 versus 1989 versus, you know, 2014 to '94. Right. I feel like it's not that different now. I mean, I guess it is. I don't know. I'm not a sociologist. I just want to... I'd be like 1959 to 1989. That's a huge, huge, huge difference. Yeah. I mean, 1959, the world used to be like the one... 1989 to... Yeah, 2014. It's not that different. It's drastic. Yeah. So, George Reeves, we know the internet is probably the most drastic thing in the world. We have super considers in our pockets right now that we use to order food. I think about that all the time. I think about grabbing some like, elderly guy who's been in a nursing home for 25 years. Look at the world. Be like, "Hey buddy, I bet you 10 bucks I can put in your hand this device that will tell you anything that you are looking for." Total of human knowledge. Anything you want. That's a good money-making scheme. You could just get 10 bucks from all kinds of old men, and that's going to pay for your iPhone in probably six months. Great. Yeah, it could. You could definitely do that. You could also use it just to pay your bill because you already have an iPhone. Yeah, that's... Because that's what you're scamming them with. Yeah. You didn't get the iPhone on credit. All right. Yeah. You paid that on. Yeah. Cool. Thanks. This is a good move. That's a great idea. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. I had common books. Okay. See you guys? No, I was more of a Marvel guy. But you'd watch Superman. But yeah, I mean, classic. Yeah. I mean, I like DC stuff too. Again, I'm a lot like my father. He passed on a bunch of stuff. He has all his old comics, and I used to read them all. I like that. He's a good dude. Sounds like a good dude. My pop's a good guy. Yeah. I used to watch the George Bush Superman. I was a bigger fan of the animated series that was on 1989. It was Superman done by Ruby Spears' animation. That was actually a really, really good show. Was that the older cartoon style one, or was that like the actual comic style? That's the, so there was the, there was the, there was the 1941, and then in 1994 Warner Brothers, the people who did the Batman and the animated series did a Superman animated series that was more like the 1940s one. That's probably the only thing you're thinking of. Yeah. And Fox Kids for a while. Okay. Superman Batman. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That was excellent. Yeah. Then that was that cartoons were just throwing right back to the old folks' comic. It was amazing. A slender, non like muscul, like super muscular Superman. Yeah. Fantastic. Did Justice League and Just League Unlimited later, which I, or two of my favorite comics ever. But I think that that mid 90s Superman, the animated series was hands down the best comic book adaption ever made. That is perfect. Perfect. It's better than any movie I've seen, and I've seen them all because they have a lot of free time. I've seen them all. I've seen them all. Nine o'clock would you? I went with, again, what my nine year old self would have been new and was watching WWF wrestling. So Monday night, this was on USA Network. This was pre-raw, but this was just their Monday night wrestling. You were a huge wrestling fan? Oh, for like three years, from like 8 to 11. Would you go to that? I think that's the opposite. That was like, or allowed to like wrestling. Adult wrestling fans. I beg to differ. I know a couple of friends who are very much still into wrestling, which I know, I was in, you know, on the high. They have their, they've had their ups in the downs in life. On the hierarchy of nerdy fandom things, adult wrestling fans is right for adult kids' fans. It really is. That's, and then you have like insane clown posse, slightly below that. I'm 32 years old, I can still say that I like kiss. Pre-makeup off? Not lick it up. Love gun. Oh yeah. So you're talking '70s. Destroyers. Destroyers. Yeah, sure. Did you ever see Kiss Me to the Phantom of the Park? No. It was there. So Kiss did a made-for-TV movie. Kiss Me to the Phantom of the Park in 1976, I think. And there was like Marvel comic book adaptation of it, and the gimmick of the comic was that Gene Simmons' blood was part of the red ink used to print the comic. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. 'Cause what kid doesn't want blood ink in their comic book, they're like, look, I'll tell you two things. I hate Bert Reynolds, and I love blood ink. What year was it? '76 or '77? Pre-AIDS. It's the Phantom of the Park. Pre-AIDS. Pre-AIDS. Pre-AIDS, absolutely. Unless you won't fuck that now. I mean, it'd be funny if there was someone whose biggest complaint about AIDS was that they'll never get a sequel to that kid's book. But just like, the worst part about this is we'll never get a sequel about the worst part about AIDS is we'll never get another Phantom of the Park sequel, and it's not right. That's some... That would be insane. Yeah. Was that one actually said that? So you used to go to what the metal ones? Is that where they would do the wrestling? Yeah. Would you go to the events? No, I wasn't. I didn't... So it wasn't like football. You didn't go to the one? No. No, no, no. Who was your favorite wrestler? It's between Hulk Hogan and Ultimate Warrior. Yeah. Sadly, R.P. Ultimate. Oh, man. That was crazy. Yeah. Hogan, man. He was... this is when he had just gone into the acting world around '91. You had Suburban Commando. Oh, yeah. You had Mr. Nanny. This was... No holds barred was a few years before this where he tried it, but then he really went into the comedy. He went right into it. Yeah. Absolutely. I do remember that. Did you remember Brutus the Barbara beef cake? Of course I did. I've told the certain part of us before, but I think you'll enjoy it. He lived in Boston for a while, and he was working at the T, our MBTA, as a token seller. And after 9/11, when people were very anxious about anthrax and stuff, they found some white powder at Downtown Crossing Station, thought it was anthrax, completely big, huge deal, turned out it was Brutus the Barbara beef cakes cocaine. No! Oh! Yes. And then he lost his show there. Oh. The barbershop that he comes to. Oh, Brutus. I know. He's okay now. The E-tube routine. The barbershop I go to now is getting my haircut, and they had an autographed Brutus the Barbara beef cake photo on the wall. I was like, "Is that Brutus the Barbara beef?" I'm like, "Yeah." He's right there waiting for a haircut, and he was just sitting behind me waiting to get his haircut. I was... It was huge. Huge deal. Wow. Good looking haircut too. Did a good shot. Yeah. He cleaned up nice. Yeah. It's likely. I probably would've gone with Murphy Brown. I like Murphy Brown too. It's a great show. I didn't really know what that's what I thought the whole week was like. Yeah. Very sophisticated. Yeah. Who does love Candace Bergen? She was great. She's great. And she has shoulder pads. Yeah. Nice suits. Yeah. She's very sophisticated lady. Yeah. And I would've gone with Designing Women at 930, which is a show. Designing women. Love it. Any pots? Oh, man. It's a great show. You have that big boof on hand. I didn't like a lot of Southern shows. And I don't know if you felt this growing up in the Northeast either, where there was like a visceral reaction to Southern shows like Momma's Family, where they would come out and I would just be like, oh God, what is this? It might just be me. No, I felt that way too. I also never watched Little House on the Prairie Park. For that reason too. That was awesome. Very boring. It was very boring. It was a very boring show. It was like, look at all these big, grandiose long shots. I had a theory that Little House on the Prairie at the time was invented just to make kids read books. Like, if you want to watch TV, here we go. I'm like, what is it? There's a lot on the Prairie. You know, I'm going to go read Joe's books. Yeah, I'm just some reading this. It's much better. Much better. But Designing Women was sort of the exception to that rule. I love that show. I watched it every year. Any pots I loved. Deltaburks hilarious. It was a really fun, good show. I would have gone with that. Okay. Tuesday night, eight o'clock, would you go? Full House. This is after it moved from Friday nights in the TGIF lineup, they moved it to Tuesday as they were cocky. They were like, we got this. Yeah. TGIF is-- I just didn't do well for them. Tuesday night's not doing well. We're going to go with Full House. Did you watch this all the time? Was this a favorite show? Yeah, I watched Full House. I liked Full House. No. So you were nine at this time. Did you identify most with like Stephanie who would be your age at this time? On the middle one? No. I was trying to think I was the older. Yeah. I think most kids do. Like, even when you see the little kid on TV, I mean, I wonder if that's different. For P&P, where it was a little bit sort of-- People wanted to be more like a character. Because you were more freeing. You were like the bad ass. Yeah, a little bad little punk kid. The least angsty one. The least angsty one. Yeah. But then I related to the most angsty one in real life. In Full House. Was TJ the most angsty one? I guess. She had to be. She had the eating disorder in the one episode. Oh, right. Yeah. They never talked about the dead mom after like the first season. They were just over it. Yeah, it was it. They were like, yeah. John Stamos has got it covered. Yeah. He's got a cool band. We're good. John Stamos. Look, there's-- He played drums as a Movo. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. There's another Beach Boys cameo again. Yeah. Great. Well, I wonder if-- Mike Love, again. I love Mike Love. Was that a get for the Beach Boys or for Full House? Who really benefited the most? I don't think anybody benefited from it. We all, as a society, we all failed from that. Yeah, we lost a couple hundred brain cells, dude. This is just a PBS documentary about the Kokomo era of American life. Dark days. Kokomo. I want to go to Full House, too. This one is a-- We finally agree. We agree, yes. We were watching TV together. This would have been like a serious struggle for the first three days. Absolutely. Well, there's a slight age difference, so that might be-- Yeah, that two years is a really big-- That would be a really big difference, yeah. That's a huge difference, because you want to-- like, if someone-- if you're nine and a seven-year-old was like, maybe anyone wants to show me and be like, I'm not a baby. Yeah. But now two years ago, like, is that a difference at all? So this episode, Danny status as the Bay City's Bachelor of the Month leads to a host of dates, and then one with his combative guest host, which Michelle decides to crash. Sounds pretty hijink-riddled, yeah, hijink-riddled. Now, when you-- so this is a very standard three-camera sitcom, which was very popular at this time, and even on Nickelodeon, when they did live action shows, they were very much three-camera sitcoms, and Pete and Pete was basically shot like a movie. It was shot on film. So did you feel like-- We shot everything on film shows. You feel like you missed that. Like, if you're watching these sitcoms at the time, you're like, I'm not doing a TV show. You seem to be what I consider like a sitcom. Well, I guess because I did Ryan's Hope, which was exactly that. Yeah. And that was live. Right. Well, you included-- Everything is in there. So it's like-- Have you seen Ryan's Hope since you're on it? Like, if you've seen any-- I've only seen a couple of clips that some people have posted on my Facebook or Twitter or something like that. And we're just like, don't do this. Oh, I don't mind when people do that. It's kind of funny. Did your parents-- I just don't like it when they dredge up, like, babysitter's club videotapes. That's where I get-- That's your embarrassing moment? That's my embarrassing career. But you probably got to know-- I know. Yeah, I got to hang out with a bunch of like-- Teenage girls. Teenage girls. Who wouldn't want to do that? Well, when you say-- when you say it, I was in the babysitter's club, and you're like, yeah, whatever. That's-- you got to say, like, dude, I was in the babysitter's club. Well, I learned that once I went to college. Yeah. And they were like, look, I used to have these videos dancing to me when me and me and me. You want to babysit me now, honey? Yeah. Here you go in the club. I was going to join the club. I didn't call me Jacky Redesky, but just tonight. Fair enough. So the first time you were on a thing, was it a big deal, like, you all sat around as a family and watched it? Did your parents tape it? I don't think the first commercial I did. I don't think me. I don't think-- The product made it. I'm not sure. I don't think it ever aired. We had Parker Brothers board games in Salem, Massachusetts when I was growing up. And I was not in a commercial, but the closest I got was we used to test new games. And so they would put us in a room with, like, two-way glass, and we would play these games and then tell them what we thought of them, and they were, like, eight or nine years old. And I was always so disappointed when they never came out, if it was a game that I liked. Right. Oh, that was such a good game. So I mentioned this product. You're like, what the heck? Yeah, what happened to you? Is there anything about, like, dino bones or some weird sort of-- Dino bones. I think that toy didn't come out. It was dino bones. There was rat-- I did another commercial called Rattle Me Bones, which was definitely out there. What was Rattle Me Bones? It was like a board game where, like, there was a skeleton on this-- On a stick? No, it wasn't on a stick. It was on, like, you know, what a-- A coffin? No, the steering wheel of a boat. Oh, it was pirate. Oh, it was pirate. It was pirate. Right. Oh, pirate theme. Yeah, exactly. And did it give you-- I don't know, you had to, like, push buttons or try to attach stuff, and if you attach in the wrong place, you rat all the bones out of me. It was, like, don't wake daddy. Sort of. Not a thing. We got ants in the pants. Right. That kind of thing. Right. Yes, I do remember Rattle Me Bones. Did you ever actually play it? I played it for a while on that. In the commercial, but-- Yeah, they shot that commercial in Soho, and during the filming, we had to stop for, like, five or ten minutes, because a car alarm was going off. Right. My parents go outside, and their car got jacked. Jeez. Didn't get stolen, but, like, they didn't-- Someone told it-- No, they took the stereo out, and, like, the other thing, they broke the window. Jeez. They said, like, that was just so funny, because, like, everyone's like, getting pissed. Oh, yeah. Like, this car alarm is going off. You can't shoot. It's car. It's my parents' car. Oh, my God. And no one was going off. No, no. They're just there, just waiting. We're holding. We're holding on this horn. I bet your parents were like, "Who's this jerk with the car alarm?" Man, today, covered with a, like, taken extra but rattled me bones, for your trip. Oh, I don't know. I don't remember. I just remember-- Jeez. I just remember that being a shitty ride home. That is rough. You know, before you started, did you guys used to come in to New York City a lot, or was it more just when you started-- Well, just sort of remember doing that at, you know. Yeah. It started going off just since it's six. Yeah. So the guy-- I remember going in out of the city my whole life. Anyone there? My mom grew up in Queens. Oh, okay. So she's been going in out of New York City my whole life. Yeah. Did you have, like, an arch rival that you were always up against for, like, the same roles all the time? And you'd see that person there, and you'd be like, "It's him. It's him." I'm a colleague, hulk, and then I had a couple. Really? A couple almost. Really? Yeah. He got him, and you didn't? Or you got him, and he didn't? Yeah, yeah. Anything that you're just like, "Ah, if I had only." Oh, no, no, no. Really? I mean, the good son was one. I auditioned for that. So they shot it in Gloucester, Massachusetts? Oh, they did. Yeah, I auditioned for a speaking role that I didn't get. So you were going to go evil in the good son? What's up? Yeah, I was going to be the evil kid. So that was, what, 1990? Probably? '91 or '92. So this was after the Pete and Pete shorts, or during the Pete and Pete shorts, but before the specials? Yeah, it was like that whole time I did the, I was in the Mighty Ducks. Yup. I did an off-Broadway play with George C. Scott. And Nathan Lane called on borrowed time. Oh, man. What was George C. Scott like? He was a dick. Yeah. He was on a terrible sitcom at the time called Mr. President on the Fox, where he, it was a three-camera wacky sitcom where he was the president. Really? That was it. That was the whole premise. Well, he. He seemed like a very miserable old man. He was a miserable old man. There was one scene where like, I'm like, hang out in this tree and he like, picked me up and pulls me down like he's got me in his arms or whatever. Yeah. And we're going over lines and he's trying to think of his line and trying to think of his line. He's like, 80. Right. And I'm, you know, eight, nine years old and I remember the whole, I could recite the whole frickin' play by this point. So help him out. You're going to help him out. I'll help him out. I'm going to throw him a bone here. And I tell him his line. You don't tell another actor, his lines, especially one who's an actor like, yeah, George C. Scott, because he will squeeze you. He squeezed you? He squeezed me. I'll never forget. This is as long as I live either. He squeezed me and I could see like his bulbous fat nose, like being made into red. George C. Scott got you in a sleeper hole? They're almost in the sleep. Yeah. Except he had me buy the, like, the art and not the... He got you in the Anaconda. Yeah. And Anaconda. Yeah. Anaconda me. Oh my God. Yelled in my face. You never tell an actor his lines, like freaked out. That's amazing. Yeah. You know what you should do is let's call up L.L. Coljay, who was in Anaconda and he could get revenge for you. He made me... No, it's okay. I got revenge. You know why? I was dead. Yep. Did you kill him? No, but he was dead now. So I win. I'm winning. Wow. I got fired a week after. Did you? You got you fired? Oh yeah, yeah. What a dickhead. Yeah. Who gets a nine-year-old fight? But that's okay. Then I got the Mighty Ducks right afterwards. Yeah, I was like... It'd be funny if he was up for the same role in Mighty Ducks. You know what I'm saying? He was up for you. George C. Scott. He would've been Hans and... How was there nearly a list of those in that? Was he... Did he squeeze you? No, he was very cool. He's in my favorite movie of all time. Repo Man. Repo Man's a great movie. It's my favorite movie. Yeah, he was super nice. He took us... Yeah. We shot Mighty Ducks so long ago that he took us to see Wayne's World in the movie theater. The entire cast. Did he rent the theater and was like, this is... I don't know. I just remember he bought all the tickets. He might have rented this movie. Did you shoot that knowing? No, in Minneapolis. It was in Minneapolis. So you're in the middle of nowhere. Yeah. Basically. Sorry, Minneapolis. Sorry, Minneapolis. Well, we've just lost Minneapolis. Oh, my listeners in Minneapolis are gone. But St. Paul's cool. St. Paul's cool. Oh, yeah. You got Prince. A lot of great music for Minneapolis. Prince Soul Asylum. The Replacements. Husker Dio. Husker Dio. The Time. Fantastic stuff. So 8.30, what'd you go with? Tuesday night 8.30, home improvement. Show I hated. Yeah. Did you like it or did you just watch it? I just watched it. I don't know if I necessarily really liked it that much. Yeah. That seems to be the case. Everyone I know... He's kind of watched it. He's just like... There's nothing else on at this time, especially for kids. He could have gone to Superman again. I think kids are like, "I'm watching the 8 o'clock show. I want to watch Rosanna 9." So I guess I'm just watching Home Improvement. Right. Because that's when I definitely paid for 9 o'clock. Yeah. And no one like JTT. I don't know if you met him. Did you meet him in a kid's choice of ordering? Probably. Yeah. Do you have fond memories of those? How many of those did you go to? A bunch of them. Yeah. Great time at all of them. Because they were all on Orlando? No. The ones I went to were in LA. Okay. Because then did they move into the studios later? Maybe. Because you guys were sort of the Nickelodeon show that was not shot at Universal Studios Florida. It was the only one. Yeah. Clarissa was down there. Yeah, Clarissa was. Well, refreshment. Yeah. I mean, P&P was the only location I think. Yeah. Nickelodeon show for a while. Because it definitely stood out from not being there. I wonder if those... Oh, look totally. Oh, it was amazing. Yeah. We're just like jealous of you guys being like, "We go down here to Florida." Oh, I had to do my time in Florida for that show. We'll figure that out. We'll figure that out. Yeah. With what was the... Summer. Summer. Summer. Yeah, yeah. I enjoyed that. So home improvement I wouldn't have gone with. But to be fair, there's nothing. There's nothing. There's nothing. There's nothing. It's like Moneyline Sports Center. I guess I could have watched Sports Center. You could have watched a movie on Cinemax, a crime drama called American Tiger. I didn't have Cinemax. You didn't have Cinemax? Oh. Are you mad at Cinemax, did you say? No, I just said I didn't have it. Oh, you didn't have it. I thought I said I'm mad at Cinemax. I'm mad at Cinemax. Cinemax squeezed me. And I got fired. It was me. Why are you going to bring up that old shit? What happened? This is a movie with a guy named Mitch Gaylord called American Tiger and it's only one star. Nine o'clock, Roseanne? Yeah, of course. One of the best shows ever. Yeah. Maybe the best sitcom of all time. Especially the 90s. Oh, it was so good. Yeah. It was just... I mean, I grew up very blue collar. And it was one of my complaints that I always go on this soapbox about on this podcast is that there's no truly like blue collar sitcoms anymore. It's all aspirational. It's all people like, oh, yeah, we're blue collar. We live in a huge apartment. But Roseanne was like real proud. Like they lost their business. They're going to go lose their house. That's right. What's up? Is honey boo boo aspirational? Um, I hope not. But it's not. But it's not. No, you know what? It might be because those people are successful to a degree. You know what I mean? They're sort of glamorous to a certain set of the populations. It's not like Samford and his son. It's not like Sam. He's a junk man. They have nothing. Like that was especially in the 70s. That sounds bad enough to gag a maggot. Where's the ripple? Yes. But Roseanne, you know, they were like constantly going to lose their house. They couldn't pay their bills. Yeah, there's always something. Yeah, it was depressing, but in a great way. And this is a Thanksgiving episode, which were always my second favorites after the Halloween episodes, which were great. Pete Meade never had a Thanksgiving episode, did you? I don't remember. I think it's the one holiday you didn't do. Patrick's Day, I guess. He didn't do it for the start. Oh, yeah, yeah. He's doing the same thing. Yeah. I don't remember. I can't. Yeah, I can't recall Thanksgiving episodes. Because Halloween is one of my favorites. Halloween is great. It's an absolute favorite episode. The New Year's One is a classic. It's a U-centric one that New Year's One. I still watch that every New Year's Eve. It's a great episode. Yeah. And they used to do the Countdowns. Would you watch that on New Year's Eve when it was on? Sometimes. If I was always at like a family party or something at that age. And you wouldn't be like, "Put this on, everybody. Stop the party. Put this on." Right now would be other people being like, "Oh, the end is going to be on TV. Put it on. It's going to be embarrassing." Sometimes. Did your family make a fuss of you that was just like mortifying? No, not really. They were pretty cool. They sound pretty cool about stuff. They were always pretty cool about it. They were quick to talk me up when they wanted to. But they wouldn't try to cut you back. It's like a normal pair. Yeah, they're proud of their kids. Who isn't? Well, I'm sure that people who are not proud of their kids actually sat there in America. 9.30, what'd you go with? Jeffery dollars parents were not proud of them. They probably weren't. They might have been at some point. And he was like a serial killer. I was like, "If my shoulder didn't go out, I could have been better than you. And you, you shamed the family." You shamed the family. 9.30, what'd you go with? 9.30, I went with Coach. Did you enjoy Coach? I didn't really get Coach that much, but it was the same thing. Like, you know, it was on. I was like, "I watched it. My parents were probably watching it." My least favorite Van Dyke. Jerry. No one liked Jerry Van Dyke. It was, I always describe Coach as a show where all the characters are the dumb guy. Yeah. The one dumb guy character on a show? Everyone's that on the show. They're all dumb. All the dumb guy. I would not have gone with that. I would go and get smart on Nick at night, a show that I love. I was getting, I was going to get, I'm getting to that. You're going to get smart later? I'm going to get smart later. Wednesday night, 8 o'clock, what'd you get? Oh, dinosaurs. Amazing show. I love that show. It's such a great show. And so amazingly subversive. Oh, incredibly. I could not believe they got away with the stuff they got away from dinosaurs. Yeah. Watching that as an adult and seeing all that stuff is jeez, man. Could you imagine like the guy, like the guy having an affair? The Earls and Claire's boss was like having an affair at work or something like that? Yeah. Sherman Helmsley did his voice from the Percents. Yeah. And just all the environmental stuff. I imagine you could not air a show like that now in the current political climate. People would be like, "You're a doctorate or children with this propaganda." But it was, I always thought in the high school, the high school dinosaurs. They're not sex and all these other things. Yeah. And just so critical. It's okay. They're dinosaurs. It doesn't matter. It's not really. Kids don't get it. Kids don't get it. That baby's funny. This show, so this is the yolks on the Sinclair's who have a great A-mess on their hands when they learn that the baby might have been switched with another when the two were just eggs. I do want to say, I am not a fan of the punny description that TV guy has had here. Not the best work TV guy. Not the best work. On episode, I always would have gone with this. However, I would have flipped back and forth between this and Unsolved Mysteries. Yeah. Huge fan of Unsolved Mysteries. I don't know if you ever watched that. Oh, I definitely did. I enjoyed sketching. And I don't think I wasn't ready for it. This one has one that's haunted me, this particular segment. And it's a search for a Florida church arsonist. And so this story, they found a videotape on the site of the arson. And Unsolved Mysteries showed the tape. Because someone filming the church burning and going, "Look at the fire, Omar! Look at that fire!" And it creeped me out so much. I was like, "Who's Omar? Is he a devil?" Like, I was really scared. It was terrifying. And the fact that it was like real footage, it was like a Blair Witch kind of thing. Later, they found out it was just some like 14 year old hick with a friend named Omar. And that's what it was. Which obviously is the only explanation. Yeah, right. Omar was an idiot. Omar starred fire. At 8.30 would he go with? Doogie. He'd say you like doogie. I like doogie. I couldn't get into doogie. I don't know why. I could never get into it. Something while Neil Patrick Harris was off putting to me. Everybody loves me. I don't know why. I don't know. Well, I know why people love him, but I don't know why I didn't. So, doogie has it. This one doogie raises the roof and eyebrows. After his parents ask him to pay room and board. Spalding's tough as nails father refuses to be fitted with a pacemaker. Your son's a doctor. Make him pay. Yeah. He's getting a pretty good pay. Come on. Who paid for him to go to college? Probably them. I think that's reasonable. Did he have the Reebok pumps on? He might have. Did you ever have pumps? Oh yeah. I remember on Nick-- And LA gear ones too. LA gear? Stupid ones. LA gear. You can still get a Walmart bought LA gear. The only place you can get LA gear now is Walmart. They own LA gear. Oh my God. So, if you want to relive. I remember British Knights seem to only be able to be purchased if you won them on a Nickelodeon Game Show. Yeah. I think that's the only place you can get. Did you get a pair of British Knights and figure it out? No, I didn't get any cool stuff. Didn't go to go to Space Camp. No, let me get to go to Space Camp. I always thought that would be the rule. Like, you know, if we guessed-- Yeah, you should get it. We should get to go. Why not? British Knights. He doesn't want to go to Smuggler's Notch. Every laugh every time you say Smuggler's Notch. Notch. Both words funny. I think dirty about it. It sounds dirty to me. You feel like you're getting away with something? Oh yeah. There's a liquor store in a sale in a mask called Bung Hole Lickers. Because a Bung Hole is the whole in a whiskey barrel. So it's like a legit name. Right. You could say it all you wanted as a kid and never get in trouble. Just like when we go to the aquarium and see the jackass penguins. A lot of fun. It's loopholes. Childhood. Really acting like a jackass penguin. Yes. I said penguin. Said penguin. I remember someone, an older kid in my neighborhood, used the term jerk-off. Like, called someone a jerk-off. And I was just like, "Oh, it's wrong with that. I can say jerk." So he's a jerk-off. So I started saying it all the time. I was like nine years old. My parents were like, "Where did you hear that?" I'm like, "What? It's like a jerk, but it's off. This guy's a jerk-off." And they were like, "You can't say that." You can't be saying that. But I feel that privilege out of you. They couldn't tell me why I couldn't say it, though, because they have to be like, "Yeah, that's masterful." Right, right. And I was like, "No, no. You just can't say it." So it made no sense. I was like, "All right, if that's the rule, I guess that's the rule." Pems the rules. I would have gone with Brooklyn Bridge at this time. I didn't even know what that was. It was a great show. So it was Gary David Goldberg who did Family Ties. And it was sort of his wonder years. So it took place in the 1960s. It was autobiographical about him growing up in Brooklyn. And it was a great show. It didn't last that long, but it was a really, really good show. It was a fun show. It was like a more realistic 60s set Pete and Pete in many ways, actually. He was like him and his brother. I shot him film, "Great Show." Nine o'clock would you go. Nine o'clock, I went with a court. I love a court. One of my all-time favorite shows. Another one that I probably didn't get, but I just liked washing it. But it had that level of silliness that I think appealed to a kid as well. That would be, would work. 'Cause you had like Bull and some of the more physical silly stuff that John Marchett and personal heroes would do. Oh man, he's the best. So great. Everything. He's never not good in something. He's the absolute best. The judge doing magic just makes me happy. Yeah. Who doesn't have a judge doing magic? I was like, when I first got Jared duty, I was like, "I hope this is like night court." It's not like night court at all. In New York, I didn't come down here very often. But I was like, "New York's either like the Warriors or night court. Those are my two options. It's got to be like one of those two things." Oh man. No, normally I would have gone on night court. And in this episode, Mac considers an underwear modeling job to earn quick cash for a down payment on a dream home in the suburbs for Kwann Lee and Raw's in Trust Dan with her personal items from a safe deposit box. It's a pretty fun episode. It's the last season of night court. I always would have watched this. However, it was a special program on tonight. The 10th anniversary special of MTV with musical performances by Michael Jackson Madonna, George Michael and Aerosmith on ABC. It was an MTV special on ABC. I would have gone with that. I was a huge MTV fan. I'm wearing an MTV shirt right now. You are wearing an MTV shirt for the listeners. It's true. Well, MTV back then was more, it seemed more anarchic. It was like... Oh yeah. It seemed like people just doing a thing. It didn't have like a... And it was? Yeah. It totally was. Was Nickelodeon Studios in the New York office in the same office as MTV in the time? Yeah, all 15, 15 brown rights. Did you ever see the MTV people that are like... Sometimes, yeah. Cindy Crawford doing House of Style. No, none of that stuff. But the VJs. Well, I guess this is a little bit later. When the state was on... Yeah. The state and P&P shared a floor. Oh, really? So... Right. So you would go and see the state people. Yeah, I would see them on that. This is too early for that. But that was one of my... Did you watch that show? Oh, it's like, we're legit. That's a music show. It's like one of the first two. Yeah. Jon Stewart Show too. Yeah, I was obsessed with MTV at that time and now it strikes me so weird. It's like, I was only like four hours away. You could just drive down and then I was just here. Right. You're just here. That blows my tiny Boston mind. So, I want to go with that. 9/30 Wednesday night, what'd you go with? I think it's smart. That's when you were when we got smart. So, this was a show I imagine your parents introduced. Oh, yeah. I used to watch the crap out of it. It was a really funny great show. Amazing. Slab sticky, perfect, just perfect, the perfect amount. Yeah, absolutely. What a great show. Even the reunion specials were good. Speaking of the Bob Newhart one, they did a Get Smart Reunion movie and I think 89 or 90. That was actually really good. I sort of remember that. Yeah, it was really good. Thursday, this is Thanksgiving. So, I want to mention the Macy's Thanksgiving Parade is on in the morning. I still watch this every year. It's the one time I watch this sort of thing. And I always notice no matter what the Smurfs are in the background at some point. Now, would you ever go in? No, my family, we used to go in the night before. And watch them blow up all the balloons. So, that's what we do. That's what we do. We went the night before and walked around and watched them blowing up the balloons. And it's not in the morning. We'd all huddle around the TV and watch it. Remember, we saw that last night. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's Felix. It's Felix the cat. Oh, he got popped. Oh, boy. So, they never asked you guys to be in the parade. No. 'Cause I remember a lot of, you could always, that's how I would know what shows were shot in New York and which ones were shot in California. Oh, 'cause you'd see them. The kids were in the parade. It was always like the Cosby kids or the kids from Kate and Ali. Right. And I'm like, okay, that's a New York show. Now I know, 'cause even though they were set in New York, they weren't always shot there. And that was, I thought I discovered some sort of secret code. I'm like, okay, I see what was going on here. I know what's doing. So, Thanksgiving night, eight o'clock. There is a special presentation by Sears of E.T. I didn't work with that. I didn't go with that. That's the first movie I ever saw in the theater. Oh, wow. Yeah. I don't love the Simpsons. The Simpsons. This is when it was up against Cosby. This was a really huge deal. Difficult decision that many children had at this time before they moved the Simpsons to Sunday nights. How long did you watch this? I've never stopped. You're still watching. You're a die-hard. I don't have a DVR, so I don't set it or anything. Right. 'Cause there are Sunday nights I still watch. Most people are like, I checked out in 1999. Or like, and then I came back. No, I mean, if it's on, I'm always going to watch it. That's like, if I see that's on against mostly anything, I'll put it on. So, this episode is Thanksgiving episode from the previous season. Barb departs, rather than apologize to Lisa after accidentally destroying her historical centerpiece. Oh, I remember that episode. This is a really good one. So, I would have watched that as well. Eight-thirty, what'd you go? Eight-thirty, I went, oh, this is where I would be flipping between two. So, I realized that I could flip. You got the click out. Stupid. It took me all the way to, uh-uh, all the way to Thursday to figure it out. At least you figured it out. I would go between a different world and liquid television. So, liquid television was amazing. And I remember it being just fascinating. Really experimental, weird stuff. It's like the first really like short attention span thing that I saw that was like, here's a little quick blurb and then it's got something else. Experimenting. And it was really kind of what was going on at the time in New York in like underground art in a lot of ways. Yeah. So, they were having, and I know that like Toby House was part of that scene and a lot of that stuff. And they would just go to like colleges and get like experimental filmmakers and be like, "Make a weird thing and we'll air it." Yeah. Dog boy. And that kind of stuff. Dog boy. Exactly. Amazing. Charles Burns, it was involved as well. There's an Aeon Flux started on that. That, I thought I'd get the trouble. Aeon Flux is crazy. I remember my dad walking. Aeon Flux and then Max, which is crazy to the image comic that they made in Aeon. The Max. Which always used to air right before the state. Right. Right. And I used to have to watch 120 minute. Matt Pinfield was my favorite. I loved it. I used to tape 120 minutes. Of course. Mondays. I would run home from school and sit with a notebook and write down records. Yeah. Records and b-100%. 100%. 100%. I learned so much. Amazing. Amazing. And liquor television. B's about it started on liquor television. Now, normally I would have watched liquor television. But, one good thing and bad thing on MTV was they only had like eight hours of programming that they would just rerun all the time. Right. So, liquor television was on probably five more times that day. So, I would have gone on a different world. Which is a show that I absolutely loved. And you said you would get in trouble for watching it? Oh, well, it'd be like my grandmother's house. So, don't you get mad at me. She didn't like it. She didn't like it. I was watching. She thought it was inappropriate. It'd be too old for you. It's too old. You shouldn't be watching shows about kids in college. They're nine years old. So, this one I repeated. That's what I thought college. Oh, yeah. Until I went to college, I thought college was a different world. You got to college and you're like, "Why is everyone white?" Wait a second. Here's why. What's going on? I did it. Like, the aesthetic of like having to go downstairs and there's only one phone. Oh, yeah. And like, that whole thing. Like, what has happened? We all have our own phones? This is bullshit. Yeah. Yeah. I was completely ruined by like Revenge of the Nerds and Fast Times Originally. Yeah. Yeah, I'm like, "This is what college will be. That was not what college was like at all. Very disappointing." So, this is a very good episode. You passed up married with children, which is a show you mentioned you did used to watch all the time. I did. I did. I might have not. I don't know if I did as by Thursday. I was like just looking at stuff that I hadn't. Yeah. So, Jessica Hahn was a guest star on this episode. Hahn married with children. Yeah. As a shoe groupie. So, this is when she was in your feet. Yes. This is when she was in the water. So, how do you shoe vanish people out there? Check out this episode of married with children. This is when she was in the wild thing video with Sam Kinneson. She was like blowing up because she had that affair. So, nine o'clock would you go? At nine o'clock. I went with cheers. I've never been a person who doesn't like cheers. Come on. Everyone loves cheers. And I always thought it was just because it was a Boston thing. Everyone here is Boston. But the more people I talk to the Marros, everybody just like cheers. No, I mean, we're like cheers. It was a great show. Even people hate Boston love cheers. It was a great one. Even nine-year-old kids who didn't know anything about being in a bar. I like... Love cheers. You like that. Can we go to a bar tomorrow? I like cheers. Can you be like that? Maybe. I don't know. This one is really cold at the Giants game. Yeah. And I had to give you Blackberry Brandy when you were like six or seven years old. Yeah, it's blackberry. Because he was cold. Yeah. And he needed to be warmed up. Exactly. He thought it was good. And it warmed me up. It did. It did the job. It was. And you watched that game and enjoyed it. I don't remember the game now. That's why I enjoyed it. You wouldn't know it was. I would have flipped back and forth between Get Smart and Kids in the Hall. Good news. Kids in the Hall, for sure, was... Amazing. Was another one that got me in a sketch comedy. Yeah, for sure. That show, especially if you were raised on stuff like Money Python, which very, very much Kids in the Hall is a descendant of Money Python. Oh, yeah. 100%. 100%. I went and saw Brain Candy. Oh, I love Brain Candy. That is such an underrated movie. Oh my god. Which is my little Money Python? I think Brain Candy is a better sketch movie than any of the movies Money Python did. I know. Wow. I think it's a strong statement. I haven't watched that movie in a long time, but I... Give it a relaunch. I love it. It's such a great movie. It's such a great movie. It's such a great movie. Kids in the Hall. This one is playing a kid... Dumping the bus, right? Yeah. Oh my god. It's such a good movie. Playing a kid, Scott Thompson picks the wrong time to be a wise guy and a dog outsmarts Kevin McDonald. Not really sewn it with that description, but a great show. And then Get Smart, obviously, is good as well. So, Friday night, the final night of the week, eight o'clock, what'd you go with? Family Matters. TJIF diehard. Family Matters. By this time, definitely into Family Matters. And in this episode, Laura may be sorry for banishing Steve from her life. In her dreams, she's a 90-year-old spinster whose only visitor is a now married Steve. Oh. It's a dream episode. It's a dream episode. Yikes. You can always tell that a show's been on too long when we were in a dream. Full dream episodes. Yeah. And they tell you what's wrong. It's not like a polter rug out from under you. Like, it's a dream at the end. Like, like, no, we're telling you up front this is a dream episode. We want you to know we've given you fair warning. Dream episode. Which is why, you know, Pete never did a dream episode. No. Didn't need to do it. No, I mean, but it was sort of dreamy. Yeah. I mean, it had this sort of... You could slip in and out of consciousness. Yeah. It was well done. Unlike some things like... So I always said, think about Pete and Pete that appealed to me. By being sort of more surreal, it made it, it was a more accurate representation of what I actually felt like to be a kid, where everything is such a high stakes thing. And something like, even family matters, doing like a normal episode seemed completely unrealistic. But a show like Pete and Pete, where it was very strange, seemed totally more real. Yeah. Weirdly. For sure. You're just growing up in the suburbs and you kind of have that mythology. I mean, I don't know. But I also still think that's just a kid thing, you know. It's just universal. It's just like, you're too young to realize things, you don't take the things for granted. Right. And the stakes are high. Everything. Yeah. I want to make a grilled cheese sandwich, and I'm not going to use the stove. So, yeah. I mean, what was the... That's high risk, man. Absolutely. How am I going to do that? Am I going to burn myself? It's missing you. It's impossible. How much butter do I need to put in the pan? Am I allowed to do it? Am I allowed to be doing this? Right. Yeah. Do you want to touch the pan? Do you want to touch the pan? What was the first thing you cooked for yourself when you were a kid? I went mac and cheese was mine. Well, like... Something that involved fire. Something that involved fire. I made french fries. Really? Yeah. Like oven fries? No, like I cut up... You're deep fried up. I cut up potatoes into a bunch of, you know, like french fries and I just put them on the pan with olive oil and I fried them up. How old were you? Wow. 10? Wow. Did you get in trouble for that? No. Your parents encouraged it? No, no, they encouraged it because they were good. I made good french fries. You jumped right in hot oil. You're a talent. I went right into it. Jeez, I'm impressed by that. I think I was 11. It was like home economics. So it was like... Okay. That sparked that. Yeah. You're like, I think I could do this. I could do this. We're not going to Burger King. I could do this. So you won't feel any matters. 830, what'd you get with? 830, I went with WKRB. Thank you for saying that because you passed over step by step. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Come on. So I was noticing the damn theme songs and I died, but I know... It hated the show. Yeah. I liked Stacey Keenan. Yeah. She was the only one. Oh, yeah. Yeah, that was a stupid show. It was... And I watched it a lot. Because it was on TV. It was done. Yeah, it was not funny. It was sleazy. It would do like super sleazy. Super sleazy. Super sleazy. It was like, this is a family show. The parents were always talking about Bonin. It was like really sleazy and uncomfortable that show. WKRP, classic show. Classic show. Great. Again, kudos to your parents. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Yep. Another theme song I can sing. Yeah, of course. Nine o'clock would you go with. I went with Perfect Strangers because I loved that show. I love Perfect Strangers. I love Perfect Strangers. Everyone went with Perfect Strangers. It's very slapstick. It's a very Lucy-like show. Oh, man. Yeah, absolutely. Who has a makeover show now where he bought a town in Pennsylvania and does all the work. He bought a town? A whole town. Stop it. And he refurbishes the town. It should sound like the learning channel or DIY or something. It's pretty entertaining. Now, normally, I would have gone with this. However, nine o'clock we have a CVS special. Okay, let's see these visuals. Circus of the Stars. Oh, no. And you're not going to believe this. Leslie Nielsen and Dixie Carter are the Ringmasters for the 16th annual edition, and here's where it gets crazy, which is slated to feature Dare Devilry, which is not a form of that word you see often, by vanilla ice crashing through a wall of flames on a motorcycle. And it says, "Will vanilla ice melt? See him ride into a solid wall of flames live." I would pay good money. I would have skipped that to see vanilla ice. I would have taken prayer exchangers until I go to Ike, starring Susan Anton, downtown Julie Brown, and Vogue, downtown Julie Brown, who you may have walked right past, and the whole of them. Paul Rodriguez, fresh off his gang special, Tracy Scoggins, we have what else, Charlene Tilton, Susan Anton, Beth Maitland, trained tyros. And then your favorite, you've ever done. Your clown. He's a clown. That's Jerry Mann's like William Cat, the greatest American hero. He's on the Wheel of Death. Jay Thomas swallows fire and lays on a bed of nails, and Vogue sings, "Hold on." Nice. That's tough. Nice. And Rebecca Arthur, from Perfect Strangers, played back his girlfriend, she bungee jumps 200 feet. I have a copy of this Circus of the Stars. It's pretty great. It's pretty great. If you'd like to see it, I'd be happy to do it. Did we know ice melt? Spoiler alert? Sadly didn't melt. He has a makeover show, too. He flips houses in Florida. Yeah. He demos houses and flips them in Florida. And the promo is like him with a jackhammer, and he's like, "Yeah, boom. This house is dawned." It's like just him being such a dickhead, doing home refurbishments, vanilla ice. So do you know what I like this wall? I am. Yeah. We out. So TV Guide is not just informative. It cheers in a jeers. It has opinions. Oh, it does. Did you want my last one? Oh, I'm sorry. Yes. 9.30. Herven said. Yeah. Great show. Great show. One of Fox's best shows. Yeah. Special few are into the Simpsons. Did you recognize the voices and know that, like, Lisa Simpson? Yeah. Yeah. And Hank Azaria. Mm-hmm. That show was great. Especially Hank Azaria was the one I knew. Yeah. You couldn't miss him on that show. That show was fun, and it was smart and weird. Totally weird. And you were so able to just get way out there because it's all about very high content. Very high content. Oh, it's great. Get away with so much love. I really enjoy Herven's head. I still will re-watch that. There's a few Fox shows. I haven't seen that show in so long. I can't get it. I need to see it again. But there's a few shows that Fox had that were really groundbreaking in that way. A show that actually equate with Pete and Pete a lot as Parker Lewis can't lose. Oh, yeah. She had very sort of... Parker Lewis can't lose. Jeez. There's a very similar show in a lot of ways. And Fox, Herven's head, sort of, in that category get a life. They really were doing it. Get a life was... Just the sort of... Get a life was so good. That's what I... I saw... Chris Elliott going back to when he was on the show. That's what I knew him from a media... From Get a Life. And I was like, "I love that show." Who was the most starstruck you got when you saw a person that did an episode of Pete and Pete that you had watched on TV and you were like, "I can't believe this guy's on the show?" Well, it was Chris Elliott. It was definitely one. Because he's really... Like, in real life, he's an incredibly down-to-earth guy. Oh, super nice guy. Yeah. Yeah, I know both his daughters well and I still talk to Chris once in a while. He's got like super head in his shoulders as being like a second generation. Well, like a really, yeah. And so goddamn funny man. And nothing like he is... Because he always plays insane people like that. Dude, do you watch Eagle Heart? Yeah, I love him. Oh my God, it's hilarious. It's hilarious. It's hilarious. Yeah. He and Bill Hickey. Yeah. When Bill Hickey was my grandfather on Pete and Pete, all I could think about was Christmas vacation because that was like my favorite thing in the world. I just wanted to go out to him and be like, "The blessed day!" I'm blessed. I know him from one crazy summer when he's got out on the boys. And Bill Hickey, he was also in a really bizarre episode of Tales from the Crypt that Arnold Schwartz and Edgar directed. Oh, that's weird. Yeah. I can check that out. Yeah. Check that out. Bill Hickey would have freaked me out. I would have been... Yeah, Bill Hickey was... I was definitely star-structured to me, Bill. Yeah. He was such a nice guy too. Was he nice? That's good. So he was like the anti-George C. Scott. Oh, he was, yeah. He was 180 degree difference. Yes. I'm glad to know. He's also in a great segment of Tales from the Dark Side of the movie written by Stephen King called The Cat from Hell. Bill Hickey's in that segment. Very good if you like the horror films. Oh, yeah. Check that out. Yeah. All right. Just a list of Bill Hickey homework that you have now. Got some. Yeah. So I'm going to read you these chairs and chairs and see if you agree or disagree with what TV Guide said this week. Cheers to Ron Reagan for trying to breathe some signs of intelligent life into the clone zone of late night TV talk shows. This is Ron Reagan Jr., by the way. Okay. Ron Reagan Jr. had a talk show. That's great. But he was a huge liberal. That was the thing. It was like, he was saying everything is dead. It was like the A.T. family ties. In difference? The political ones people are usually indifferent on. Yeah. Fair enough. Cheers to NBC Nightly News for taking Supreme Court correspondent Carl Stern off the air. I don't know. I remember Carl Stern and I'm glad that he's off the air. If they said it was, I'll go with the chair. You're holding up the chair. Cheers to a product every parent with a renegade rug rep can appreciate the VCR guard. So simple. You have to wonder why no one thought of it before. This inexpensive device from Play School is a plastic shield designed to fit over the videocassette insertion slot so that children don't put things in there. Let's go for cheers. Yeah. I don't know that. Yeah. I wouldn't do that. No. Neither would I. The VCR gave me so much good time. I would put it in the one that was sole purpose was just to rewind the VCR. Yes. Yes. And finally, jeers to ABC's doogie howzer and he walks down a hospital hallway. All the nurses address him as Dr. Houser, but he calls them by their first names. Sure, it's a minor point that I was almost inexcusable and led of doogies tender age, but nurses are professionals too, and they deserve the same respect according to their superiors. Having perfected his bedside manner, we suggest that the good doctors start concentrating on his manners. Period. Sounds like the... Sounds like the little cupcake that wrote that. Yeah. She's having a bad day over. I used to be a nurse in this doctor comments. Yeah. I don't know if I... As much as I dislike doogies, I was like, I don't know if I would call that cheer. Well, Danny, thank you so much for doing this show. No problem. We're gonna see the flow. Hey, man, how did the dream come true for me? TV guidance counselor with Danny Tamborrelli, hopefully Mike Morona will do one in the future. We were scheduled to do one that day, but something came up for him, so I'll try and grab him, but one Pete is definitely enough. That is a great, great get for me. Huge deal. I want to thank Marianne Waze and the producer of the Adventures of Danny and Mike podcast Jeremy for helping me make this happen. And speaking of that podcast, you should definitely check it out. It's called The Adventures of Danny and Mike. If you don't already listen, definitely subscribe to that. It's a fun, fun podcast with those two guys. And Danny has a band called Jounce. You should check them out at jounce.org. They do some touring all around the East Coast to definitely go out and see them. As always, you can subscribe to TV guidance counselor on iTunes, Stitcher, on SoundCloud, Libson. We're all over, so please subscribe, rate, review. It's very, very helpful to me, helps people hear about the show, and I thank you so much for listening. Be here again next week for TV guidance counselor. [Music] [BLANK_AUDIO]