TV Guidance Counselor
TV Guidance Counselor Episode 10: Alex Edelman
Wait, you have a TV? No, I don't like to read the TV guide read the TV guide. Don't need a TV Hello, welcome again to another episode of TV guidance counselor as always I am can read your TV guidance counselor. And thank you guys so much for coming back and checking out the show or if it's your first time listening to the show. Thank you for checking it out in the first place. I very much appreciate it. Now, before we get to my episode this week with my guest Alex Edelman, a couple of housekeeping things from some prior episodes on the Dane Crone episode. I do have to say I did make a mistake. I confused Joel Gray with Joel Higgins in my mind. And I realized it probably two minutes after I said it. I am probably the world's only person to confuse Joel Gray with Joel Higgins. So yes, I know that Joel Gray was not on Silver Spoons. Also, because people have expressed some concern to me after that episode regarding the my wife bleeding story, she fell on some bamboo and a bamboo forest while we're on a mountain in Hawaii and injured her knee, which was the source of the blood and she's feeling much better now. So thank you for your concern. So on to this week's episode. My guest is Alex Edelman, who is a very funny comedian. I've known Alex for probably 10 years since he was probably 13 or 14 years old. He used to hang around at the Great and Secret show, which was a comedy show that the Walsh brothers ran here in the Boston area and now do in Los Angeles, which you should check out if you are in that area. But Alex was a kid. He was a teenager. He's just hanging around the show and it's been great to see that since then he's become an excellent comedian who is far more successful than I am sadly for me, but he does shows in England all the time. He'll be doing Edinburgh this summer. He's got a great podcast of his own called The Pod Squad with Godfrey and you can check out Alex at AlexLakesToRight.tumbler.com so definitely check him out. Also, a little word of warning, both of us speak very quickly. I have a tendency to talk fast. Anyway, Alex does as well. So we pretty much feed on each other in this episode. Quick story about Alex. One of my favorite stories about him is when he used to hang around at the Great and Secret show as a teenager, one day he seemed very troubled and he told John Sullivan and myself that he was very scared to perform because his school bully, a gentleman named Moshe Mushnick, was in the crowd. And so Sean and I then proceeded to spend all of our time on stage terrifying this 16 year old school bully, which was very fun for us. So give this a listen. It's Alex Settleman and I think you will enjoy it and I'll talk to you at the end of the show. Hello, welcome to TV Guidance Counselor. I am Ken Reed, the TV Guidance Counselor. He's already laughing at my guest this week. That's the name of the show. Did you not know what the name of the show is? Okay, my guest who you just heard for the first time hearing the name of the show is Mr. Alex Edelman. Welcome to my home, Alex. Thank you. Thank you, Ken. I would do literally anything you asked me to do. Well, that's some dangerous information. I said you said do you want to do and I said yes. You didn't even ask what the name was or the concept. No, I do. I have people over my house. I hit them with various objects and we record it and get their reaction. Sounds like a winner if you've evolved. Alex's first time in my house wearing the shiniest, newest Chuck Taylor's I've ever seen. My brother ordered them and they don't fit him. And so I got them today as a as a grudging re-gift. Right, because those look like this is a maiden voyage of those Chuck Taylor. It is. It is a maiden voyage. Yes, absolutely. So you've picked a rare edition of TV Guidance, the coveted fall preview edition. I think we could go through all of the fall preview, but we're going to skip that part and just go right to the meeting. I don't think I picked any new shows. No, it's September 12th to the 18th, 1992. And at eight o'clock on Saturday night, Alex Edelman, what did you go with? Brooklyn Bridge, which I've never seen. Great show. Great show. It was started by Gary David Goldberg, who created Family Ties. Jewish name. He's a little bit Jewish. He created Family Ties and this was his second series. It takes place in the 1960s in Brooklyn. And it's a bit like Wonder Years. It's an autobiographical show. But I've also never seen Jews growing up in Brooklyn. You would like it. It's a it's a pretty great show. What's the episode description? So this particular show, What Unites Us is Deeper Than What Divides Us are so hope Alan and Katie who managed to get their families together for dinner after Katie's father forbids them from seeing each other. So it's a little bit of like a Romeo and Juliet. Yeah, exactly. Now you grew up, is it Orthodox? Did you grew up in Orthodox Julia? No, were you not allowed to watch TV on Saturday? That isn't Saturday night. We could watch TV Friday night to Saturday night. Until sundown. It's the sundown. Yeah, sundown to sundown. So you could have watched Brooklyn Bridge, but you never watched Saturday morning cartoons? Well, I could have watched Brooklyn Bridge, but I was three years old. So I don't think my interests did. At what age did you start to be aware of television? At what age? I think I was always aware of its existence. It was big in our house and it looked like it'd kill me if I pulled it over. It would. It definitely would. They were big TVs. But I became aware, I think probably around five, I start watching Seinfeld. Okay, that explains so much to me. Does it really? Yeah. No, I definitely, I think Brooklyn Bridge is a good is a good call here. It was a 60 minute episode because it was the premiere, the season premiere. It was normally a 30 minute show. I normally watch cops on Saturday night. I'm a big fan of cops. This episode, Philadelphia officers arrest suspects in a drug sweep, reunite a mother with their children after arresting their father for kidnapping and respond to a burglary in process. I mean, that sounds pretty good. I would also have gone with toy soldiers at 8 30. That is an excellent, excellent movie. It's about a, have you seen it before? Yeah, I have. The hostages and the boys, private school, and Sean Aston fight Sean Aston kicks some ass in that. I remember I saw that after Lord of the Rings. So I was really surprised that Sean Aston was a badass. In many ways, I think it's better than Lord of the Rings. In terms of having Lugos and Junior versus not having Lugos and Junior, it is better than Lord of the Rings. You mean Lugos and Junior from Iron Eagle and Enemy Mine? I've never seen either of those movies. You should rent the movie Enemy Mine, Lewis Gossett Junior plays an alien who... Iron Eagle sounds like a movie about a Black Nazi. It's not about a Black Nazi. It's about this kid in Lugos and Junior who steal like a military plane to go rescue POWs. So Lugos and Junior is involved in a lot of military action with young men. Yeah, people think he's a real militant young man, loving military men. He's also in the Punisher, the first version of the Punisher with Dolph Lundgren. And he says, he actually says I'm too old for this shit. He's a cop that's... No, he does. He does. He does. But does he for real? Yes, not in an ironic way. So that's a good movie. I think that would have been good. You could have you would have missed the second half of Brooklyn Bridge, but I think toy soldiers would have been a good move. Also, not based on the Martika song, "Toy Soldiers" I've never seen that. I've never heard of it. I've never heard "Toy Soldiers" by Martika. I've never heard of Martika. Martika was on a show for this episode. I feel like this episode is going to be... I've never heard a lot of you explaining to me. But that's what I'm here for, Alex. Yeah, you're my team man. Young man's counselor. Have you ever actually looked through a TV guide? You can say no, I'm not going to judge you. You're significantly younger than... Yes, I remember as a kid we would get them and then we stopped getting them around a certain age. So I wonder what age I stopped looking at. All right, so you're familiar with them. I should also mention that at this time, 1992 Nickelodeon had SNCCS, which is Saturday night Nickelodeon. So you also passed up Clarissa, explains it all, which was the 8 o'clock show, Roundhouse, which was the 830 show, which is a terrible show, Ren and Stimpy at 9. No, no, I picked Ren and Stimpy at 9. Great show. And I picked MTV Sports at 9.30. But you did pass up Dream On, the HBO comedy series produced by John Landis. A lot of tits in that show. Really? Yeah, it was one of HBO's first original comedy series, Predated Larry Sanders, which we'll talk about in a moment. Yeah. This episode, Helen Slater was in it and whoo-hoo, boy-oh-yoing Helen Slater, but so you went with, you went with 9 o'clock at 9 o'clock with Ren and Stimpy. Great show. I wonder what the hell was on. What episode it was. I mean, I don't know if they have episode descriptions for this. Yes, Ren and Stimpy enter a dog show. That one. It already sounds like gold. Yes. And MTV Sports. Now, I hate sports, as you know. And you're a big sports fan. Big sports fan. I loved MTV. MTV Sports was the one show I wouldn't watch because I hated Dan Cortez. And one thing that I'm finding out doing this podcast is how many of my friends loved MTV Sports. It's been very shocking to me. What was MTV Sports about? It was, it was exactly as it sounds. Dan Cortez was interviewing athletes of the time, so basically just Bo Jackson every week. And it was very fast paced. There was a lot of extreme sports, so they'd go bungee jumping with Spud Web. That kind of stuff. Oh my God. I mean, I'd actually watch a show called Bungee Jumping with Spud Web. That sounds horrible. Also, I should mention late that night on just because we're both in the comedians, you may enjoy this. At 11 p.m. Saturday Night Comic Strip Live was on. All right. Just tell me who was on the first, who was on first on that episode. Andrea Walker. So after that would be Doug Benson. Doug Benson is on it. Wayne Carter. Yes. Are you remembering this just from seeing it? The Amazing Jonathan and shit. The last name was Case Me. Did you read this or are you just remembering it from when it was on? Remembering it from when it was on. Are you serious? Yeah. How rain men of you. So you can remember the lineups of every comic strip live? No, no, no. I just remember. I remember select ones. I remember watching those and my favorite of the comic strip live is a guy named Charles Cozart. His name will never come up in any other context, but he did a great, great, great comic strip live set with, he was, his character was a Black Panther. Okay. Was he a Black guy? He was a Black guy. Because I was going to say that would be very, very, so funny. It was, it was so of the time, but yeah. Do you want the name that you forgot? Is. Oh, I forgot to. I forgot to. Okay. Andrea Walker and who's, well, Andrew Walker, I gave you, but we're in Thomas. Yeah, that's the one you even some of those names. I don't even remember. I don't remember Andrew Walker. I don't know. I mean, Carter and Amazing Jonathan, but I don't know, Andrew Walker. That was on the show. 1992. Well, Doug Benson was in a movie called The Willys where he played a zombie. And I recognized him from it. It was directed by people who worked on growing pains in 1987. And I recognized him from it. And I think it weird him out. Right. So yeah, Comic Strip Live. I remember there was an alt episode of Comic Strip Live, and Dana Gould was on it and Amazing Jonathan. Yes. Yes. Yes. And Boston comedian. See if you remember this one. Chance Langdon. Yes. That's correct. I can't believe that. I'm amazed at this mutant ability you have to remember the comics live up the shitties. The shitty and super powerful. No, this could come in handy. All right. If you're held hostage in people like you got to name me the lineups. So we're through Saturday. All right. We moved on to Sunday. We're moving on to Sunday. Eight o'clock. What do you got? Okay. Wait. I picked a seven o'clock to seven thirty. Okay. That's fine. I've done this a couple. Bill and Ted, the TV series and it caught my eye because I didn't know there was a Bill and Ted TV series, but it says read the description because the last line of the description blew me away. So you went seven o'clock, Bill and Ted, the TV series. Yeah. Where am I? Why am I missing it here? Seven o'clock, Bill and Ted. Here we go. Bill and Ted's excellent friendship heads for the rocks when Bill as a heartless corporate raider and Ted as a cop who's out to bust his buddy. Yeah. Read the read. Oh yeah. Rufus left by Rick Overton. Yeah. You played the George Carlin role. Oh my god. Isn't that a perfect transfer? And so George Carlin for the movie in Rick Overton was in a lot of television. Rick Overton is a great actor. He is. I loved Rick Overton. He was in a movie called Million Dollar Mystery that I really like. I really find him so watchable. Yeah. Oh yeah. He was in a show called Babes on Fox, which was a very offensive show about three fat girls that lived together and he was one of the boyfriends. Yep. He was on a show called The New Adventures of Beans Baxter that was directed by Savage Steve Holland that I really liked. And Rick Overton popped up a lot. He seemed to be on Commenstrict Live every other week. Yeah. He was always on there four times. And Bruce Baum was on there all the time. I only know him from that context, but he's also in the movie Martians Go Home. But Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventures was a live action show. It was terrible. And there was at the same time a second Bill and Ted television series that was a cartoon version. Yeah. And the great thing about the cartoon version was that George Carlin did his own voice and Keanu Reeves did his own voice and Alex Winters did his own voice. And they actually went on TV talking about how much they hated the TV series. So they did an appearance on Arsenio Hall telling people not to watch the live action show because it was garbage. What about the read the description for the Parker Lewis episode from this week? Parker Lewis is one of my favorite shows of all time. It's at seven to a great show. 730. And it could be love at last for coach Kohler when Parker, Annie and Grace, forced him to go on a date with a metermaid played by Wendy Jo Sperber who was in the show Babes and was in Back to the Future. Meanwhile, the diner comes under new management. Do you know who played coach Kohler? No, John Pinet. Really? John Pinet was coach Kohler. Oh God. Yeah. So a lot of these guys got their starts playing second bananas on shitty sitcoms. Pretty more. That's not a shitty sitcom. Parker Lewis is great. You've never seen it? I crossed it out. I crossed it out in favor of the one below it, which is behind the scenes right here. With Penn and Teller. Yeah. So in this behind the scenes, which was a PBS show, Penn and Teller and Friends teach kids about the creative process that actually is a really, really good episode. Really? You've seen it. I have it on tape if you ever. I really do. What's David Hockney draws a walk around a chair? I don't understand what that means. Yeah. So this is someone who an artist, David Hockney, shows you how to draw a walk around a chair. Okay, fine. Yes. So Parker Lewis is a great show. I think you really like it. It's very first Bueller-ish, but it was a smart show and very well ahead of its time. Really? This particular episode is when the coach played by John Panett opens a diner, and I specifically remember he has a dish in the diner called a momlet. A momlet that his mother made, and he goes, "You've hardly touched your momlet, Jerry." Which I still say to this day. So at eight o'clock, what'd you go with? Eight o'clock. I picked In Living Color. No, were you a fan of In Living Color? I've only seen a couple of episodes, and I found it broad, but it's... It was huge at the time, and the divide in my school was either you were an America's funniest home videos person or in Living Color person. Well, I would certainly be an In Living Color person. Really? I was as funny as home videos as it's wrong with the United States. No, it's... All right. I'll give you this. The world has grown into America's funniest home videos, and it's a bad thing. What is a really funny show? And in Living Color was... I find it to be broad and hateful. Well, I didn't like... Yeah, I thought it was hateful too, but did you see... Do you see who they say plays one of the characters? Yeah, so this, I'll read it. A collection of music parodies from past shows. First of all, it's a clip show. So, it's gonna be a few features. Tommy Davidson as Michael Jackson and Hammer, after he dropped the MC. All right. James Carey. Playing no doubt in the eyes. Michael Bolton in Vanilla Ice. Jamie Foxx as Prince. Kim Waines as Crystal Waters. I know Crystal Waters is... Crystal Waters was sort of a dance act at the time. She was popular for one song when people have her name. All right. Well, it was a comedy... There's a lot of... So, if it's a sketch or stand-up, you're gonna watch it, it's pretty much... Yeah. I'm a pretty... I give comedy a chance. I want to mention too, we're talking so quickly. I think when I edit this, I might just play it at half speed, and it will sound normal to people. Are you serious? I think between the two of us, we tend to talk quickly anyway. I talk pretty quickly, both of us do. Yeah. So, I think that we're just amping each other up here. This is like, I don't think... Instead of getting excited. It's sort of a punk rock episode. Yeah. 830, Brooklyn Bridge is not again. But I'm not... I didn't go with that, even though the... Even though it has one of the most offensive lines we've ever seen in the last episode. So, say, in the second season opener, Alan and pal start high school, where Alan's science partner is a girl who's rumored to, quote, "do stuff." This was a problem many people had in high school, Alex. They were supposedly gonna be doing stuff. Yeah, well, there's an episode of Mr. Belvedere, where Kevin, the oldest brother, picks us a partner for science class, because she has a reputation as a slut. And so, he takes her out on dates, and she thinks he really likes her. And then they go to her house, and he's like, "Mom, we got all like three tons. You haven't done anything." And she's like, "I thought you really liked me. Let's just do it on the couch, then, Kevin, if that's what you want." And then he's like, "No, no." And we learned a tough lesson about sluts. Oh, God. So, you wouldn't have watched that. No, I picked... I picked... I picked married with children, because I can't pick time for that era without a one, at least married with children. So, "Marabah Children" was a show that I loved at the time. Since then, I've kind of come around to not liking it as much. But this episode is very good. So, in this episode, the seventh season opener, Linda Blair and Bob Cadd-Golfway play Peggy's cousins, who make a quick visit, leaving behind their five-year-old son named Seven, who's captivating to Peggy. He was named Seven, because he was their seventh kid. -Are you serious? -Yeah. So, this was towards the end of "Marabah Children's Run." They were trying to reinvigorate the show by adding a cute kid to the cast, which was, as we know, the death knell for many, many shows. Oh, God. In the next season, they just completely forgot about Seven. -No, why? -Yes. I picked... Whether they have, like, we haven't put down or something. No, they never mentioned them. He just disappeared. And I also like the idea that Linda Blair and Bob Cadd-Golfway are married. I love Bob Cadd-Golfway. He's great. Yeah, I'd watch him in absolutely anything. So, what'd you go with at 9.30? Well, 9. -It was at 16. -9 o'clock. 9 o'clock was "Marabah Children." You did it as 8.30. Oh, I'm sorry. I picked... I couldn't decide between Baywatch and Billy Graham. That was the American conundrum. I think that you've just described the rent-state, the loot-state divide. Could we pick between Baywatch or Billy Graham? Baywatch or Billy Graham. And Billy Graham's, the title of Billy Graham's episode, which was "Hope for Broken Things." That was the only description. And I thought maybe it was like a home repair show, but then I remembered who Billy Graham was. -Yeah. -And so it's either religion. It was religion or... Or Baywatch. I don't know what happened on that one. -You know what would be great? Is it Billy Graham actually did a religious home repair show? So, everything was like, "How do you fix this squeaky door?" You pray, and then it's just praying. Like, we got to paint the room. -This is as nice as that you pray every time. -Just sit there and pray. Yeah, so it's exactly like this old house with praying. But so, Baywatch, this particular episode, I think Baywatch would have been the move, to be honest with you. And here we go. Reports of a coming storm bring back painful memories for Mitch. Kay attempts to persuade the parents of a young deaf girl to send their daughter. To sign language school. Now, weirdly, someone on the podcast picked this episode before. And we mentioned how odd it was that a lifeguard had anything to do with persuading parents to send their son to deaf school. I don't remember who picked it. Would that make a difference? -I'm just curious. -Okay. Deaf people on the beach, that's what we have. So, did you decide, Baywatch or Billy Graham? I think the Billy Graham. All right, so you went with Billy Graham. Wow, Alex. In a Christian show, no less. -I'm curious. Monday was a special day. -I do want to mention that Sunday night at 10 o'clock, one of my favorite shows, Flying Blind premiered on Fox, with Talioni, who I absolutely love. -Really? -And it was sort of a little love show. Corey Parker was in it from the movie How I Got in the College. And basically, Talioni is this sex pot who falls in love with him, and he's sort of a nephew. -You're the only person who I've ever heard used the phrase sex pot. -What else would you say about Talion? -Now, I think sex pot is of Talioni of the fun of Dick and Jane. -She is great. So, Monday night, 8 o'clock. - Monday night, 8 o'clock, the season opener of Fresh Prince. -I suspected you'd go with that. -Why am I not the first? -Most everybody universally picks Fresh Prince on Mars. -Why? -Everybody loved Fresh Prince. I can't find anyone in Premiere. Am I not going to pick Fresh Prince on Mars? -So, here's what you had against Fresh Prince. You had Hearts of Fire. It was the debut of this show with John Ritter and Marky Post from Night Court. It was probably a little too old for you. It was created by Linda Bloodworth Thomas, who created Designing Women. -Linda Bloodworth Thomas. -Yes, she created Designing Women, which was a great show. And Hearts of Fire isn't a bad show. Billy Bob Thornton was in it. But Fresh Prince would have been the move. In this episode, Will is back from a summer in Philly, and having had more than a bad hair day in the third season opener, he's kicked out of the mansion for openly defying Uncle Phil, then is apprehended by a cop after Jazz refuses him shelter. So, there's a lot going on in that episode. -There is. That seems pretty serious, actually. -8.30. -Oh, blossom, because I love Mayan Bialik. -Do you love her? Have you ever met her? -I have. -I feel like you would have met her. -And some chewy thing. -Was that what it was called? -Some benefit for Jews. -For Jews. -Is Mayan Bialik Jewish? -Exceptionally so. -Is she very Jewish? -She's worth it, Oxley. -Did Jews have a scale for other Jews? -Yes, you do. There's a scale from Noam Chomsky to Monticello. -Okay. Monticello is the most Jewish you could get. -No, Chomsky is the least Jewish. -Okay. -Although he's really a troublemaker and kind of an asshole, which is the most Jewish you can think of. -So, you've just negated your entire scale? -Yeah, I have. Well, I think being an atheist is the most Jewish thing possible. -So, I'm Jewish? -You are. If you were born in Jew and you decided it wasn't for you, that's the most Jewish movie you can make. So, Mayan Bialik and Blossom, time-wise, the all-consuming love of Blossom and Vinnie makes six played by Genovon Oi, my favorite actress name of the early '90s. The odd one out, while the all-consuming lust of Joey puts him in an odd situation with candy. I also thought I was in a punk rock when I was a teenager in Stilam, but there was a subgenre of punk rock. You may not be familiar with it called Oi. -Oh, I actually have heard of it. It was preferred by the skinheads. And I always thought that Genovon Oi spelled her name O-Y, like Oi-Vay, which would be a pretty Jewish name. -Yeah. -Von Oi, Count Von Oi sounds like a really bad 1950s character. It's like a really bad Jewish stereotype that Mel Brooks would do. But I always wanted to have a band called Genovon Oi, O-I. -You would want that. I'm not proud of it, Alex Edelman. -The rest of my night, by the way, is Murphy Brown. -The full hour season premiere of Murphy Brown. -Well, they were back to back. It was a back-to-back episode. Murphy Brown has a baby shower, because I thought it was this big, serious thing where Murphy Brown was like, I thought it was a big cultural thing where she got back. -It was. -It was. -It was. -It was a huge cultural thing, but if you read the description of it. -Well, it was a sitcom. I mean, it was a comedy show, which is why Dan Quill was ridiculed for making it into a thing. -Yeah, it's ridiculous. -Yeah, it was like, if someone, it was like, if President Obama came on TV and criticized the character-- -A lot of family. -No, more like two broke girls. It was like, "These girls." It was like, "What are you talking about?" So they made a big deal out of this premiere. Katie Couric, Faith Daniels, Joan Munden, Mary Alice Williams, and Paula Zahn, storm into town for the baby shower. Murphy doesn't want until she hears about the presence. So that was a pretty good episode. A lot of guest stars. A lot of high-powered guest stars. -And then there's the 931. And the 931, still unable to conceive of the fact that she's having a baby, Murphy discovers labor can be a real pain, as do the FYIers who are unable to deliver Elden to the hospital. Nurse number one, played by Angela Patton. I don't know why she got special billings. -So I really wanted that. I really wanted that in my life. -Yeah, I think Murphy Brown was the move here, but I will mention that on HBO, the movie The Hollywood Nights was on, starring Tony Danza, takes place on Halloween in the '50s. It's a real American graffiti rip-off and Michelle Pfeiffer's in it. And comedian Robert Wool, also the first thing that he was in. -Really? -And it's not a bad movie. And Pump Up the Volume was also on, which is one of my favorite movies of all time. Christian Slater, his finest role. -I can't wait for Tuesday. -Tuesday. -Tuesday is Larry Sanders. -Larry Sanders, the premiere of Larry Sanders. -It's not. I was wrong. -You were wrong. -It's a monthly. I read the episode description and went, "That's not the pilot." -So do you have an encyclopedic knowledge of the Larry Sanders show, the same way you do? -I do. It's my favorite show of all time. -It's my favorite show of all time. -So which episode of Larry Sanders is this? -This is the episode where a new producer comes in and he has aspirations to replace already, and Larry tells him off at the end of the episode. -How many times have you seen that episode of the Larry Sanders show? -Probably twice. I don't watch things repeatedly, but you know, I've seen the best of and I've seen the full thing. -And if there's a show, is there a show that you will always, if you're flipping through channels and it's on, you can't not watch them? -Yeah, for me, that's a Larry Sanders show and the Simpsons, I guess. The Simpsons have never failed to captivate me. Larry Sanders is on a 10 o'clock. -10 o'clock, yeah. -I'm sorry, I didn't go chronologically. -That's all right. You were excited about Larry Sanders and I understand. What did you pick at 8 o'clock? -Quantum Leaks, I've never seen that. -You've never seen quantum leap? -No, I'm not even 100% sure what it is. -Okay, so here's the premise of quantum leap. -I only know it from Family Guy Parity. -Oh, I'm sorry. That's a phrase you should never have to say as an adult. -Yeah, I'm sorry. -I only know this from Family Guy Parity. -I apologize. -The premise of quantum leap is that in the future, you have a man who goes into a machine basically and then jumps into people's bodies in the past, but only along his timeline. So only times he was alive. So he's not going back to like 1820. It's only in the 20th century, basically. -So it's like the romantic comedy that came out this year about time, but it's... -Maybe, maybe. And so in this particular episode, Sam leaps into Al as a young Navy flyboy. So Al was his future buddy. So this was a very special episode in here. -Oh, wow. -And his buddy's body. As a young Navy flyboy, about to be tried for the rape and murder of his commander's wife. -Holy shit. -A situation made more trying by the tragic fate facing Al's past girlfriend. Roddy McDowell was in this episode. Charles Rocket, who later took his own life in Providence, Rhode Island. -Jeez, he's a news anchor on SNL. You don't know about Charles Rocket? -No, I should really have that. -She woke up Charles Rocket. -You look funny. He was very funny. He was a smart guy. I went to Brown. It's a weird episode. I mean, Rhode Island's cool design. So quantumly, good show. It got a little jesus-y later in the series, which I didn't like. But I think that's a good call. Full House was on, which I probably would have watched because it was a two-parter. It was the one where the Beach Boys are on. And John Stamos plays drums for the Beach Boys. They debuted Kokomo. Also, the movie Summer Rental was on at this time. -Do they really debut Kokomo in Full House? -Yeah, absolutely. The video for Kokomo was on Full House. -That's so weird. -So he didn't have to pick anything at 8.30 because he went with an hour-long show. -He went with another hour-long show, which was Nova at 9. -You went with Nova. -Because I didn't know it was on at the time. -Oh, Nova's been on for decades. It doesn't say what the episode of Nova was, but you don't care you would have watched it regardless. -But it's mystery. It's all about mystery. -Here's what you didn't watch. -Power, politics, and Latinos. -That was what I was going to say. That was also on. But you didn't watch Baywatch. And in this episode, a Hollywood producer, played by Leslie Easterbrook, who was in the police academy movies. -Yeah. -Offer's Mitch the starring role in an action movie after he makes a heroic rescue while moonlighting at a private beach party. I mean, that sounds pretty hot, Alex. -This sounds really hot. -But you also didn't watch Roseanne, the fifth season opener. -Where did I watch Roseanne? Oh, I don't have Roseanne on here. -Roseanne's probably one of my favorite sitcoms of all time. -I guess I'll amend. I want to amend that. I don't want to watch Nova. I want to watch Roseanne. -You're going to watch Roseanne and maybe the second half of Nova? -Yeah, Roseanne 9 to 9.30. -And then at 9.30, I normally would have watched Delta. The Delta Burke sitcom, which I actually really enjoyed. But also on the Discovery Channel, an Australian show that I loved about science called "Beyond Tomorrow" was on. And in this particular episode, it was about space station decor. -Oh, I would have loved that. That's right up my alley. -Yeah, there's episodes on YouTube. It's called "Beyond Tomorrow" and it was originally called "Beyond 2000." -Oh, really? -A Australian show at Fox did a US version of it as well at the time. -So Wednesday, for me, is really easy. I waste my entire prime time on one thing. -You picked a movie? -Yeah. -What'd you go with? -Rocky 4. -Rocky 4. Now, Rocky 4 is the Russian one, right? -Yeah, that's why maybe why I picked it, because the Olympics are on, and that's how I sort of feel. -If you're feeling patriotic. -I am feeling patriotic. -I love Dolph Lundgren, and I'll watch him in anything, except Rocky 4. I have no-- -Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. You don't like Rocky 4? -I don't. I don't like the Rocky movies. I don't like Sylvester Stallone. -Okay, well, I can't-- Wait, you don't like Rocky 4? How do you know? -Rocky 4 is the most Ken Reid of all the Rocky movies. -I would-- you're probably right about that, but if you think of how Ken Reid the Rocky movies are, not very. -Yeah, but this one is cheesy. This one is mockable. This one is the most-- -Hold on. Are you saying I'm cheesy and mockable? -No, I'm saying that you like cheese and mock. -I do like cheese and mock, but I will say this. The thing that I do like about the Rocky movies is that-- I don't know if you've been to Pennsylvania, but the-- in Philadelphia, the famous Rocky Stairs. -Yeah. -They have a statue of Sylvester Stallone at the top of the stairs, and if you jog up the stairs, there's a homeless man who makes his living by jogging next to you, singing the Rocky theme song. -Are you serious? -You will jog up next to him and go like, "Duh, duh, duh." And then you pay him at the top, which is money well spent. I feel like he may not-- -I would not give him money. -For singing the Rocky theme to accompany you, running up the stairs? -No, if he carried the boombox with me, or if he pretended to be Mick-- -Oh, man, come on, rock. -Yeah. -How much did you pay him if you pretended to be Mick? -Probably a buck or two. -Alex. -This guy, I thought you were just-- -Bridges Meridith was jogging up the steps next to me. I wouldn't pay him more than a couple of bucks. -Well, I'd be scared because he'd be a zombie. -I know. -A zombie, birdges merideth? -By then he was a zombie, birdges merideth. I would probably give him a couple more bucks. -So Wednesday night, 1992, 8 o'clock, you went with the whole movie. I probably would have went with-- I also considered live from Lincoln Center, which was a classical music concert with Leonard Bernstein music. -Oh, how boring. I should give you a wedgie just for picking that. I probably would have gone with either the Meridith time or more marathon on Nicket Night. There was also a show called From Monkeys to Apeson that just sounds exciting. Or I would have gone with the fine, fine movie to have and have not on TNT. The Howard Hawks movie, Lauren McCall, and Humphrey Bogart on TNT. -Well, don't forget that I'm a big sports fan, so-- -You are. -So A, you can go fuck yourself. And B, that's what a sports fan would say. B, how do you not pick murder she wrote? You unfriend giveable nerd. -I never liked murder she wrote. -Okay. -I was not a murder she wrote. -You're confusing your alley. -You're confusing nerds with retirees. Once again, Alex always like, "Is that kind of nerd or is he 65?" It could be both. -Also nerd taking medication for your osteoporosis. -Oh, nice cataracts nerd. Were you grandkids, dork? You passed up the season 60-minute season premiere of Seinfeld to watch Rocky 4. -Oh, wait, wait, what happened? How did I miss it? -George is full of ideas when the network expresses interest in Jerry for a series that says nothing when it's time to pitch executives and Kramer says nothing coherent when trying to help Newman contest a speeding ticket. -That's the nothing episode. -Yeah. -It bought Balabancini. -I gave up the nothing episode for Rocky 4. -How do you feel now? -Not very good. I'm amending again. -I love Balabancini. -I love Balabancini. He directed-- -Here, I'll do that and flip back and forth between Rocky and that. -Fair enough. Balabancini directed one of my favorite movies in a movie called Parents, which stars Randy Quaid as a cannibal in the 50s. -Are you serious? -Yeah, it's a great movie. -That sounds awful. -No, it's a very subversive sort of satirical movie. -It sounds awful. -You should watch it. -Okay. -Why, what sounds awful about that, do you? -Sounds really bad. -Cannables? Randy Quaid? -The 50s? -Baw Balban directly. -You don't like Baw Balban? -I do like Baw Balban, but it's a really great movie. He directed a movie called My Boyfriend's Back that was originally called Johnny Zombie. -He's my favorite. He's my favorite old actor who hasn't been killed as Uncle Ben and Spider-Man. -Yeah, so who-- I don't think Baw Balban would play a good Uncle Ben. -I don't think so either. Martin Sheen is my favorite old actor. -Yeah. -Because Kirk Douglas is out of the game because of his stroke. -Right. -But Martin Sheen is my favorite show of all time, if you want to venture a guess. -Okay, it's the West Wing? -Yeah, of course. -So you like politics and sports? -No, of course. I like politics and comedy and I like-- -So you like dialogue. -So you like Veep. -I do like Veep. -Although it-- -The think of it's better a little bit. -Yeah, well, I can't deal with the accents. -And the think of it? -Yeah. -You spend a lot of time in the UK. You can't deal with the accents. -Not enough think of it. I don't understand some of it. You still don't understand it. -It's indecipherable to me, but I do have a Scottish. -I do have a BBC show on here to close out my week. -All right, we'll get to that in one moment here. So I'm upset and sad for you that you missed Seinfeld, but that's okay. Let's move on Thursday night, 8 o'clock. What do you got? -I've got a show I've never heard of called You Bet Your Life at 7. -You've never heard of You Bet Your Life? -Is it a panel show? It's like a game show? -It was a game show in the '50s, and this is when they tried to bring it back. It was Groucho Marcin, You Bet Your Life. He, it was his show, the '50s version was. -Okay, yeah, I have heard of this, but I just know of it in the '80s. -Yeah, this was when they tried to bring it back in the '90s, actually. -90s. -It did not go over very long time for another go. I think you could host that, but you also passed up MTV's Half-Hour Comedy Hour. -Who was on it? -There was no description. -So I didn't do it. Yeah, I didn't consider that, but there was no description. -I'm just going to assume it was Tom Rhodes. -I feel like every week, every week, was Tom Rhodes. -He was at Tom Rhodes. -He was actually a really good, I think a really good choice. You're going to have one every half hour do like Tom Rhodes. -Did you ever see Tom Rhodes sitcom Mr. Rhodes? -I have not. -I didn't know Tom Rhodes had a sitcom. -Yes, he had a sitcom. Mr. Rhodes, he played a team of private schools. It was much shorter than his hair. It was when he had the really long rocks down there. -Oh, no. -Yeah, you got a real Michael Bolton look going on there. -All right, so you bet your life at 7 to 7.30. Then there was Martin. -No, sorry, there was the Simpsons from 7.30 to 8. -So you're watching a rerun of the Simpsons from 7.30 to 8. And then were you watching a first run Simpsons from 8 to 8.30? -He's thinking. -He's thinking. -Yes, because I forgot I've had it in an 8 to 8.30. -Okay, so you went with the Simpsons there too. Thursday night on The Simpsons. Simpsons is a good call. I probably would have watched Cosby. It was sort of in the last season of Cosby. You know, I was a big fan of that. It was always a tough call with The Simpsons versus Cosby. -Which Cosby was this one? -This was Theo is graduating from college and a proud cliff can't contain himself. On the guest list, Claire, Felicia Rassad, Al, Joe Williams, this is when Raven Simone was on the show. -Olivia. -Yep. And Keisha Knight-Pulman. It was the last show of the series. -Really? -It was the last Cosby show they re-ran it before the premiere next week. The final Cosby show. -Oh no. -You passed up the final Cosby show. -I've passed up. I made some bad decisions. -You really did. It was a 16-minute Cosby show. 8.30, what do you got? -Martin. -Martin, with Martin Short. -Oh, OK, fine, I'll do Martin, Martin. -No, it's Martin, Martin. -All right. -I hated this show. -I can't have never seen it. It's really awful. -Is it really? -Yeah, it was popular, but it's not a good show. Martin, just he plays Shenae, his female neighbor at times. -Are you serious? -Yeah, it was a very broad show. -That sounds really awful. -In this episode, Martin fears that his fortune will turn on a dime and he won't be able to cash in on his radio show when word gets out that Gina, played by Tisha Campbell, who I did like and was on Rags to Riches, which was a favorite show of mine, makes more money than he does. Later, Martin was in a power hour on Fox with Living Single, which I really liked, which Friends ripped off later. -Really? -Oh, yeah, big time. -Friends, Living Single was about -- it was a black show. And they lived in Brooklyn and it was great. And Friends pretty much did the same show. -And Friends single, yeah, Living Single, wait. -I think someone pitched it that way. -Really? -Yeah, yeah. But -- so I used to watch Living Single and not watch Martin because I really just couldn't stand it. Nine o'clock, what'd you go with? -Cheers. -No, did you -- -I've never seen you. -You asked me the question, what is Cheers? -No, I've never seen Cheers. -No, tell listeners where you grew up. -I grew up in Boston. -Yes, I knew what Cheers is. -I knew what Cheers is. -I knew what a Harrelson was on it and John Rattsinger was on it, and that Ted Danson was on it as a baseball player. -Correct. -And that it was a sitcom. -A lot of Red Sox players were on that show. -And that Kelsey Grammer was on it. -Frasier was a spin off of Cheers. -I spin off of Cheers. I like Frasier, so I assume I'd like Cheers, but it just seemed like something that had to be started, and I never wanted to start it. -You need to start Cheers. I think you would enjoy Cheers. -Why? -It's one of the best sitcoms of all time. If you have an interest in comedy, -I don't love sitcoms. -You don't, alternative sitcoms. -What would be an alternative sitcom? -To me, Sunfeld is an alternative sitcom. -See, here's -- I really enjoyed Sunfeld at the time, but I feel like I can't watch it now. I don't think it holds up at all. -Really? -Yeah. -Why, because of all, like, the pagers in it? -No, no, it just seems very dated to me in the tone of the comedy. -Well, I think that might be fair, given how bad their Super Bowl commercial was. -I didn't see that because I don't watch the Super Bowl. I haven't -- -Every year, instead of watching the Super Bowl. -Hey, again, fuck yourself. -Well, that's what I was doing, instead of watching the Super Bowl Alex. No, every -- you'll appreciate this. I treat the Super Bowl like Jew Street Christmas. -You go and get Chinese food? -I get Chinese food and I watch a movie. -Really? -You guys enjoy your holiday, and I just don't have any interest in it. -Well, you take pride in not being part of the cultural conversation. -I don't know if I take pride in it, but it's always been the case. -All right, okay. -By the way, this is coming off a lot more conversational than -- -As Alex asked me that he was grabbing my collar and shaking me. In a very -- Michael Keaton, I'm Batman way. No, weirdly, for the most part, every year instead of watching the Super Bowl, and I don't know why, but I've done this every year since 1992, the year of this TV guide. I have watched the movie pump up the ball. -Are you serious? -The Christian Slater. Yeah, I don't know why. I don't know why that's just the tradition I have. -Was it a good movie? -Oh, it's a great movie. You've never seen that movie? -No. -It's about a pirate radio station. Samantha -- -You've seen pirate radio? -Yes. -What do you think? -That's one of the BBC -- -No, that's a Richard Curtis movie that was made independently with the now deceased Philip Seymour Hoffman in the starring role. -Oh, yes. But it's about the British radio station. -It's about a fictional -- -Fictional-wise British radio station. -Yeah, so it's John Peel, sort of the radio for Europe or whatever it was? -Yeah, radio -- free radio. Yeah, it's an amalgamation of an dramatization. Bill Mais in it, and he's amazing. -Yes, well, he's good in everything. -Yeah, he's really good. -Have you ever seen "Talk Radio" with Eric Bogozian? -I have seen "Talk Radio." -It's good. -Wuber in zone, Eric Bogozian? -Eric Bogozian is from Uber. -Oh, he's very funny. -I didn't wear a fringe stalwart and regular Eric Bogozian. Yes, you should talk to him about his Armenian heritage and being from Uber. -Oh, well, I'll ask him the same thing. -If you said you met him before? -No, I've seen him on the street. -He's like, "Yeah, he's just hanging out in the street." -He lives in the West Village. -Which is a dress, you want to give it out? -Yeah, he lives on the corner of Christopher and Jay. -So, if you hang out on Christopher and Jay, you can meet Eric Bogozian and ask him about "Talk Radio" and say, "Hey, want to go to the Uber and Bologeroam?" I bet he's been there. I bet Eric Bogozian is in the Uber and Bologeroam. Eric Bogozian has been on many a date at the Uber and Bologeroam. -Yeah, I'm not sure any guess. -So, at 9 o'clock, I would have gone with The Heights, which was a short-lived show produced. -A lot of your favorite shows were short-lived. -Yeah, I mean, I probably have taste that most of America didn't also share. So, the shows that I enjoyed, they didn't. But this was sort of a non-official spin-off from Beverly Hills 90210. It starred Jamie Walters, who was a very short-lived heartthrob at the time, and he was in a band, and it's not a great show. But I definitely would have watched it then. I would enjoy how terrible it is now. 9.30, what'd you go with? -Okay. 9.30, no, Cheers was from 9.30. -Oh, Cheers was a 60-minute show. Because good thing, because there's literally only two things listed at 9.30. Korean programming. That's all it says, just Korean programming or the new Yankee workshop with Norm Abrams. So, good move. -Okay, so for Friday. -The final night. Friday. -Here's what I picked. -Baseball, expose at Mets. -The X, hold on, this is a team called the Expos? -Yes, you don't know this? -The X-B-O-W-S? -Yes. -Or Expo, like Exposition. -Exposition? -Yeah, Expos at Mets. -What's a Met? -Were you kidding me? -No, but I've heard of the team. -Mean, are you freaking kidding me? -I've heard of the team, the Mets. But like, you know, how like a Bruin is a Bear and Red Sox are obviously Red Sox. Is a Met a thing? -Yeah, a Met is a Metropolitan. -That's not a thing. -So it's just someone who like lives in a city? -It is a thing. You're an awful human being. -Have you ever heard someone described as a Met? Like, where do you live? I live in New York City. I'm kind of a Met. Have you ever heard it described in the context of anything but the sports team? -Stop it, stop it, stop it. -And what, is an Expo short for Exposition? Expo is short for Exposition. It was the Montreal team. It was named after the Exposition that they had in Montreal. -Well, you still haven't convinced me that the Met is a phrase. Is it term for something? -We've never been to the Met. -You've been like, ah, that guy's a real Met. -Have you been to the Met's before? -No. -That was my question. -No, I don't like sports. I went to a Red Sox game once where they played the Blue Jays. That's a team, right? -Yeah, well, this was a good game, okay? The Blue Jays is a thing. That's a bird. I know what that is. A Met, not a thing. -Blue Jays is a thing. So it was a good game who won? -It was a good game. It was a Dwight Gooden. It was Dwight Gooden against Mark Garner. The Expo has won 10 to 4. -Dennis Eckersley called me a little dick once. -Are you serious? -Yeah, when I was seven years old, I saw him on Good Harbor Beach in Gloucester, Massachusetts. His mullet and mustache included. And one of my uncles asked me to go get his autograph. I didn't know who he was, but they thought maybe he'd give this kid an autograph. And I asked him, I said, "Can I have your autograph?" And he goes, "I'm with my kids, you little dick." -Are you serious? -Yes, that's pretty shitty. -Well, Layer Walker hit two doubles that game. -Nice. He must have eaten a green M&M. -You would not understand that. -All right. So, Friday, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, that was... I don't want to waste. So that was... I wouldn't watch the whole game. -It was Blackadder from 9 to 10. -Good call. -Good call. PBS Blackadder. -I didn't know that PBS was airing Black. I didn't know we were airing footage from across the pond until I kept seeing David Frost pop up in the listing. -Oh, yeah. PBS aired a ton of British shows. They also aired pretty much all of Volte Towers, Monty Python. -I'm really aired on PBS. -That's fantastic. -Red Dwarf was on PBS at this time. The only real huge UK show that I was a big fan of that didn't air on PBS was The Young Ones. That aired on MTV. But at 9 o'clock, I probably wouldn't have gone to Blackadder, although I did like it. I would have definitely gone with Dinosaurs, which was a great show. -See, I saw that listed. I thought it was literally just a show about Dinosaurs. -No, it's a Jim Henson show. It was very subversive, a great show. Yeah, oh, you should check out Dinosaurs. It's a really good show. 830, just a backtrack, I would have gone with Bob, the Bob Newhart 1990 show that lasted two seasons, which was not his best show, but I'm such a Bob Newhart fan. I definitely would have watched it. And at 8 o'clock, despite my dislike of Steve Erkle, I would have watched Family Matters. -All right. Well, I had something at 10 o'clock. Would you go with the 10? -Can you want a venture, I guess? -All right, let me see what we got here. Not the demeaning of America. -No. Blackadder goes forth? -No, but I did consider that strongly, because I like Blackadder goes forth a lot. -You're definitely one with Caroline's comedy app. -I did. Do you want to guess who's on Caroline's comedy app? -Well, I'm reading it right here. So, but you know who was because you looked it up, right? -I did. I looked it up. It's "Toglass," "Drama Man" for Laudie and "Sucholinsky." And so I know that I like "Toglass." -The only one I've heard of on that list is "Toglass." Those others have been sort of like comedy names that I've heard tossed around, but... -It was really easy to get on TV back then. It seems like it. There was a lot of stand-up shows. -There was. This is a Golden Age of stand-up comedy. Seinfeld... -Here's the thing. -...because I wouldn't call it the Golden Age, but I would say there was a lot of it. -It was a lot of it. I don't think there's ever really been a Golden Age of stand-up comedy. I don't think we're living particularly in the Golden Age. Yeah, I'm the harbinger of this kind of animation. -Yes, you're going to bring it. I will say there's a Friday night at 10 p.m. 2020 was on, which as I always mention was the only show my parents for me to watch. So, I feel obligated to read what was on that episode. Barbara Walters reports on an unprecedented case that segment producer Janice Talman says involves a 12-year-old Florida boy who is suing his parents to terminate their parental rights so that he can be adopted by his foster parents. -Wow. So, it's sort of like north but more coherent. -Exactly. And Rob Reiner is only in this for about 10 minutes. So, that's what you went with. That is the week. Now, normally I end every podcast with cheers and jeers. -I'll give a jeer. -Because, as you know, TV Guide isn't just informative. It's judgmental. And this week does not have any cheers and jeers because it is taken up by the fall preview. So, what is your cheer and your jeer for this week? -I'm going to jeer myself for- -Go je yourself. -Go. I'm going to jeer myself for foregoing a Seinfeld, a classic Seinfeld episode in favor of Rocky IV. -And it's going to get out. Everyone's going to know about this. There's going to be jobs you don't get because people tell people, I was listening to the TV guidance counselor and Alex Edelman just didn't go with Seinfeld. -I didn't see it. It just slipped out. I also am jeering myself for picking a Larry Sanders month after it started. I thought it was started in September 15th. It started August 15th, but that is the greatest show. I'm going to cheer the Larry Sanders show for- -So, jeer yourself for not watching it, but cheering the show for just being- -And cheering the show for just being there. I'm cheering Larry Walker for his two doubles in that baseball game. -Oh, Larry Walker's famous two double game. I think we've all heard of that. I mean, I referenced that on a daily basis. -I'm cheering you for not knowing who the expos are. -I mean, I've heard the expos. I get them confused with the Astros. -I'm cheering. I think I made some pretty good decisions on this one. I made some pretty bouncy, but I learned about Murphy Brown. I thought it was a little more of a serious comedy, but clearly it's sort of like a goofy sitcom, and Dan Coel was really ridiculous. -Yeah, I don't know if it was goofy, but it was very sitcom-y. So, I feel like we've taught you a few things today. -I've learned some things. I actually think that this is probably a good age of television, and I really should be watching some stuff. -Oh, yeah, '88 to '92 was a good time. I think the early '90s are unfairly maligned. There's some quality- -Well, yeah, well, the Seinfeld was hitting. It's clearly hitting in stride. -There were some great shows. -The final start in '89 wasn't very good. -Yeah, the first two seasons people really didn't want. The time moved around a lot. -How did that show start? Today, that show would not have survived. -Well, TV was very different then. People were allowed to kind of fail for a couple seasons. -And sign their voice? -Yeah, I mean, to be honest, I don't know why I would say, to be honest with you, like I'd lie about this. But the first season of Seinfeld was on against Get A Life, Chris Elliott's show, and was destroyed in the ratings by Get A Life. -Great. -Get A Life was really great. -I really got to see that. -I love Chris Elliott's show. -You would really like Get A Life then. You should check it out. -Well, Alex Edelman, thank you so much for having me. -Thank you so much for having me. -Thank you for doing the podcast. -Thank you for listening. -Oh, you're welcome. That's what the audience is here. -All right. -There you go. That was my very fast-paced episode with Alex Edelman and his mutant ability to tell you who was the lineup on any comic strip live episode just for memory. What a great little weirdo. Alex Edelman is, I love the kids. So he also, as I mentioned, has Alex likes to write.tumbler. 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