TV Guidance Counselor
TV Guidance Counselor Episode 7: Dan Crohn
Please. You have a TV? No. I just like to read the TV guide. Read the TV guide. Don't need a TV. Hello and welcome to another episode of the TV Guidance Counselor podcast. I am Ken Reed your TV guidance counselor and thank you yet again for checking out the show for coming back or for checking out for the first time. Before we get to my episode this week with my guest Dan Krohn I just want to say thank you yet again for emailing me at kennedykeren.com letting me know what you think about the show tweeting to us going on our Facebook page rating the show on iTunes. It's all very helpful and I love hearing what you guys think. I also love hearing your stories and the shows that you like and also the corrections that you give me because I often get things wrong. I am going straight from my mind. I don't research anything before the show so I can only do what my tiny brain gives me and that's what I am left to work with. Also I just want to point out that last week on Julia Rossi's episode I didn't notice it at the time but she did say that her family did have a toaster oven so my theory has yet to be disproven although they didn't use it they did own one so I still have this theory that everyone that used the TV week out of the newspaper used a toaster oven or owned a toaster oven. I don't know why and it hasn't been completely disproven yet but that's my theory. So anyway on to this week's episode my guest this week is comedian Dan Krohn who is a local Boston guy. You may know him from being on the last WTF live that Mark Marin did here in Boston. He's a really funny guy. We both sort of crossed paths a number of times before we were in comedy but we didn't really know each other. We had a lot of mutual friends in punk rock which we kind of get to in the podcast and before I did this I thought Dan and I had a lot more in common than we then we actually do but that's not a bad thing and it's a pretty interesting one so I think you'll enjoy it so please enjoy this week's episode of TV guidance counselor with Dan Krohn. Thank you so much man this is exciting. Yes first time at the at the homestead. At the the manor the compound what do you call it whatever it's I guess it's more of a manor. It's uh there is a compound but I don't allow that's the underground part. It would like I felt like Wayne manor was better to go with it. Yeah yeah because I uh I had to get a had to get an underground bunker after seeing too many uh Twilight Zone episodes. No it's cool it's uh it's a beautiful house beautiful house and you uh and you only wanted water. It's yes I did. To have all these house guests to record this and who some people bring their own water which is a little bit. I thought about bringing them a water bottle. Really? Yes. Do you normally carry a water bottle? I bought one for the first time this year for the amount of money that I've been spending on bottled water. Right. And bought a really nice water bottle and they've been saving money. Right. Saving money to buy the water bottle. Yeah times are all right struggling comedian. Butter water bottle. Best thing I ever bought this year. So far yeah it's amazing. Is it made out of metal? It's metal keeps it super cold like four hours cold. Nice. Nice. So yeah trying to just be healthy. So this is your tip already. Dancrown says buy a water bottle. That's right. Definitely. And don't contribute it to the uh actually I don't care about that. No I didn't care about that. K comes in. You don't do caffeine. Nope. Did you try not to do coffee? Oh of course. You're just coming in at the moment. You're trying to be healthy. Yeah just trying to eliminate everything that's bad. For 2014 you're eliminating everything that's bad. That's right. So you're a vigilante now. Yep no alcohol, drug, drug dealers and stabbing hookers. It's 11 months over actually. Really nice. Nice. I'm at 33 years and eight months. And you are how old? I'm 33 years. Very cool. So you picked a TV guy from August 15th to the 21st 1992. What drew you to this particular issue? We got to go with Homer Simpson right on the cover. Yeah so this is uh people can take a look at this one but it's it's not just Homer Simpson. No there's a great you've got Catwoman. Which that's the weird one. That's the one that throws me out. Out of all of them yes. Because Batman Returns was a movie this year. Why is Catwoman there with Homer Simpson Ted Koppel, Roseanne Barr and Whoopi Goldberg who normally like Whoopi Goldberg movie star. What is this one that she is? That's from uh it's like her name's like Tassa something. Okay. It's from Star Trek the next generation. Okay that's right. That's her bartender. So uh this is TV Guide America's Apps the all-powerful remote control why we channel surf, greys, flip and click. So who controls the remote in your home? So you would just turn on the fact that this group of people would never be together. Right but like you know I actually saw Michelle Michelle Pfeiffer at the very end and thought the same thing. Wait that's she's not on television. Yeah what is why is she even there? I guess I guess in 1990 the summer of 1992 I feel like she slapped Michelle Pfeiffer in the cat suit on anything it would sell. Okay so that's when it was definitely out in the theaters at that point. Yeah yeah because it took it's a Christmas movie but didn't it come on the summer of '92? I like to check but I feel like it was a summer movie because I remember the first Batman in 1989 for my birthday it was the only time we did this my parents rented the theater because he used to be able to rent the theater for your birthday and we did a screening of Batman because it had come out that week. How many Batman shirts did you own at that time? At that time I only had about three. Okay I think I had two. Yeah. There wasn't that many they sold. No no I had a really cool one and I've actually tried to look for it on eBay where it had three sort of three pictures of Batman kind of morphed together like a side shot yeah one for him like an action and then like his profile and it was like the coolest thing I'll never forget like I got it at Dean Road Park in Brookline. Okay. And my mom gave it to me like at the park for some reason I don't know why we were there anyway. Yeah yeah she was like oh I got in this Batman shirt and I was like I remember thinking in my mind like I'm going to be the hit in September when school starts. This is going to be how I'm wearing this the first day. I think I know that shirt it's three panels from the killing joke I believe it's Brian Bullen. I think it's right I think you're right exactly that's right. I have seen that if I see that again I will pick you up on it. And I remember in my mind I was like first day of school people are going to like look out. Well I remember the uh the summer of 1990 so the year after Batman came out TJ Maxx which for people who aren't from the area don't know it was a sort of a local discount chain. Sure. Had an influx of the previous year as Batman merchandise. Very cheap so I got a Batman hat and a bunch of Batman shirts and was unmercifully made fun of that year at school. But then I grew like six inches and everyone was scared of me so it worked out it worked out and screw what they think. Yeah so this is the summer and previously you told me you were not allowed to watch TV Monday through Thursday. Right my mom was strict on homework came first and then on the weekend you could do whatever you want. What did you do after homework you just went to bed? Uh you know what I believe there was a series of there was a point where I had a miniature black and white television and okay very miniature like like a portable one. Yeah it was maybe the size of like maybe like a car radio. Oh like a suitcase one like the little one. Yeah not like a pocket one. No the screen was no but the screen was super small. Yeah. And I hid it under my bed. Nice way to get it. I you know I think it's for my grandmother. It was like the ones do you remember bus stations you used to have TVs attached to the chairs? Yeah exactly. Okay exactly. It was crazy. And it came in perfectly black and white. And I kept it under my bed and what I would do is I was when I say even though my mom was strict about homework I wasn't doing my homework. Right. It was a terrible student. Right. So it was under my bed. And now you're a teacher. Part-time tutor as a matter of fact. So I I'd keep it under my bed and I would sort of kneel on my bed with all my homework laid out on the top of the bed. So you would hide it and it would be it would be right there on the bottom and as soon as my mom would knock you know I would just be like volume down boom right to the homework. Do you think she knew? Uh no because she they were pretty like again I think I remember getting busted. Right. Did they confiscate? Yeah they took it but I think I pulled that off for a good year. Because that sounds about as convincing as the thing kids would do in class where they would put their head in their hands and sleep but it looked like they were reading but no one ever fell for that. I didn't do that what I did was I had the original Game Boy headphones which were the first headsets that detach. Yes. Yeah. So I would put it up my sleeve cup it in my hand and put your head on what I'm doing is terrible for a podcast but yeah so I would lean on my hand with in the middle of my palm and listen to what? Comedy albums. Oh nice. And actually I not only school I did that in Hebrew school. That's even worse than I got in Jewish health. So yeah no hell in Judaism but through through the other the other one would be my buddy Ben Holstein. Right. And so he'd be leaning the opposite. He'd be sharing headphones. That's how he would be listening to a comic relief those days. Oh right right. Which we just had you know an edited version of those best of. And did you do that because if you got caught you can be like but this is for the homeless. It's for. Right. Right. I remember getting kicked out and we got kicked out on us and I can even remember the joke. It was a Paul of Poundstone joke that we both laughed at. Oh no no no no. But we we both laughed at the same time and it doesn't even matter the part of the joke but one of the lines in it was she's talking about the difference between the left and the right side of the airplane. Okay. And one of her lines was God I hate them. And that was that was the line. We both laughed at that. Yeah that was we laughed at the same time and we got kicked out that time. I got kicked out of a seventh grade English class by this teacher named Mr. Mayo who I don't think is still alive anymore. And I would make jokes in the class as not my friend my friend Evan we would both do that. And we after this class we weren't allowed to be in the same class together. Right. Sure. And he the guy flipped out and he goes we got Mr. number one and number two Steinfeld here. Who do you think you are? Like you just lost his mind. It was pretty pretty exciting. Getting kicked out with a buddy. I'm ever getting kicked out with a buddy reading Shakespeare and we would play the penis game where you try to say it under your breath to see how louder you could say it. You just go you try to say it really soft. And whoever would win was the person who could say it the loudest without getting in trouble. So you would try to escalate the volume of saying we're even allowed only we only did this during like literature which was you know there's a sort of a table read we'd all be reading and we'd try to say it like under a breath. Who told you about my game? My friend Jody Kessler. So we would say it and then of course you'd you'd try to cough and you're like you're trying to say it as loud as you can without getting away with it. If you got kicked out though you lose. So that was the point of the game. Everybody it sounds like everybody loses. No we I remember we both got kicked out at the same time and both of us getting kicked out was like the best thing because we didn't go to the office we just roamed the school. So it was like a reward. Yes it was great it was actually great it was the first time I'd been kicked out with a friend at the same time. You got a loud penis reward. So let's jump right into it. Saturday night eight o'clock. What'd you go with? Eight o'clock we go week in rock. Good good move. I watch week in rock every week. Definitely. And when they did the short live day in rock for a while. That's right. That was short live. Yes. Wasn't is still my hero. Definitely. Have you ever read his book bat chain polar? No. Really good book. Do you own it? I'm sure. Do you own it? It's in my wall. It's not really autobiography but it's his writings. Oh you have a wall of culture. Yes this is a wall of celebrity autobiography. It's been it's been reorganized. But yeah the kind of motor book is upstairs it's a really good book. But he was he was the best. He was the greatest MTV person. I felt like I was part of the world listening to what was going on with that. I said this before but I really think that most of the things I've accomplished in my life have all been an attempt a vain attempt to impress currently. He was cool. He was cool. So normally on a Saturday night though I wouldn't have watched week in rock at eight o'clock because MTV had about two hours of programming that they just aired over and over and over again. Right. So I think I would have gone with cops because cops was my Saturday night routine. Sure. Sure. I did that at eight thirty. And the weird thing about cops was that they would start their seasons a month before all the other shows. So August was new episode. Right. That's right. It was brand new. So this is actually the fifth season opener. Okay. This night. Perfect. And this is fifth season opens in Philadelphia where officers Hank Glenn and King Harris subdue a naked man. Of course. After he shoots at them. Officers Louise Colan and Christine Coder witness an accident while looking for a car thief. I specifically remember this episode. I make a guy shooting. I think I do remember this one actually. The naked guy. He is squirting them with a fire extinguisher. That's right. And they get him on the ground and he's all slippery because he's. They can't get him. They can't subdue him. He keeps slipping out of the car. That's right. Come down and he says. Oh man. I smoked a wet daddy. Ooh. A little PCP. You knew what that was. Well I had a bad stint in college. You've seen a wet daddy with your own eyes. And my college years were clouded in a lot of experimentation with not like not serious. That was a serious drug but like not heroin or cocaine. But like if you could smoke something. I was into it. Because this and not crack. So I never did crack with it. So they they describe what this was. It was a marrow on a cigarette soaked in PCP. Right. You've done that? Yes. Did you get naked and scored a cop with a fire extinguisher? I can't believe we're talking about this because my freshman year of college in mind you. I wasn't in high school wasn't a drug person at all. So freshman year was like the first year where I was like you know what I'm doing? Everything. And I had a buddy Dave Greenwald. Do you have a girlfriend at this time? No I did not. Okay. So no god. That's I'm assuming Miller light ice 30 packs. Okay. tons of weed. And for a while my buddy Dave who I didn't realize was a heroin addict was compensating his heroin addiction with PCP. Oh that's a good way to do it. So he was from Manhattan. Oh so he was a little more. His dad was like a famous orthodontist in New York City. Is there such a thing? It's the craziest thing. So he was very privileged. A lot of money. Just so you know we would mix it with weed because that's what we do. But why? It's gotta name and everything. We got carried away. We just smoke. We smoke blunts of only that. What would you do? You we would go in the woods and steal the commons room TVs of all the dorms. And just smash them. That's all we need. Oh well that sounds good. You had here's what you had. You could drink like 30 beers. I never got caught or kicked out of school for this. Oh I was almost kicked out of college. Yeah a couple times. Bradford college. Originally in Gabriel Mass which had since I was the last graduating class because it went out of business for mismanagement of funds. Oh isn't this how you knew some of the people I knew from punk rock? That's right. From that college. From lost cause. Yeah we have some mutual friends in the non-comedy world. So this was it's a 600 percent school. It makes a lot more sense now. It's a 600 percent school. We all live on campus. And just ridiculousness. I googled. I looked up what it did to you which causes your brain to hemorrhage. Yeah it's not a good thing. I think if you had seen this episode of comps you probably would have avoided that. Oh that's hilarious. So normally we would have watched comps but this night was a a burn-off series. So these were series that they. The 830 wasn't new though. 830 on comps wasn't new. The 8 o'clock was new. 830 was a repeat from last year. But at 8 o'clock on ABC there was a fantasy series that didn't get picked up for series so they were burning off the episodes in the summer. Sure. And I remember the show it was called Just Desserts and it was like a mean-spirited fantasy island. Okay all right. So in this episode Joel Gray who was the dad on Silver Spoons, plays the director of a mysterious program of Retribution targeting a resort's unscrupulous guests including a man played by Rick Springfield. Oh my god. Who murdered his wife and beat the rap thanks to his lover and attorney not on ABC's announce fall schedule which I always love the fact that they feel that at the end right. Yeah because they're like by the way this shit up. Also Greg Evergens in it from my two dads and Tim Reed who was on Frank's Place and he was also on Tim Reed was on WKRP in Cincinnati. All right in this fly truck. Oh terrific. Okay I definitely watch that. So we're going with those. What'd you go with at 830? So yeah 830 we're going with the cops. But I feel like so 8 o'clock was the new one. I think 830 was a repeat. It was it was Miami Florida. Okay. That's it's a pretty good one. Florida is usually a quality episode. You've completely bypassed SNCC I should mention. The Saturday Night Nickelodeon so no Clarissa no Roundhouse this wasn't your thing. So does my 9 o'clock of Ren and Sippy count on that or no? That does count on that. This is I was waiting for that. Okay. You've gone you've gone with SNCC. Now I should mention this was a you could have watched a Rick Springfield double feature that because ABC the second show they were burning off was a version of the comic book The Human Target which actually out of short lived series on Fox. Okay. Two seasons ago. But in this one Rick Springfield plays the Human Target. So you had just desserts with Rick Springfield at 8 o'clock same channel. And then Human Target with Rick Springfield at 9 o'clock. But you went with Ren and Sippy. Definitely. Great show. Definitely. Oh no no. Did you watch it every week at this time? Yeah. I think I watched it every week. Definitely. This time it was on MTV and on Nickelodeon. Nickelodeon. That's right. Which was I think the one where they joined the army. I can remember specifically. Yes. Yes. Definitely. Definitely. That was a we know what I didn't put and I crossed it out. But I think you'd be interested because you love TV. And if you could see here I went with a 7 o'clock air wolf. And the only reason I bring that up is because my my uncle who is his name is Willy Ornelis who is a life drum player played for a guy named Mike Post. Okay. Mike Post played theme songs for pretty much everything that you would know about. Oh I'm not familiar with Mike Post. Okay. So air wolf, Ellie Law, cop rocks. No cop rock. Oh cop rocks. Excuse me. And we watched the premier of that my family because we knew that my uncle was playing the drums. Yeah. So I put that there. I wanted that I was like oh it has to start today. But I wanted to make sure I brought that up because I knew you would know who Mike Post is. Cop Rock was an interesting show. It was it was a drama. It was a musical musical. Yeah. Musical drama. And they really tried to make this happen in the late 80s early 90s. It was also a show called The Whole High. Okay. That was an hour long drama about high school students. But that was a full on musical. Okay. That was a musical. All right. And the guy, what's his name? Something Ortega, the guy that ended up doing high school musical and stuff later. Okay. He tried to do Kenny Ortega. That's the name. Okay. He tried to do that show originally. And it just failed. The time wasn't right. And now you have Glee and all these things that that people love. But cop rock. No love. So I wanted to include that because I definitely knew if you if I don't Mike Post you would know. Yeah. Yeah. My uncle. Yeah. Yeah. My uncle. He's played he played with like Hendrix and James Brown that he has carpal tunnel now. So he teaches drum. Oh, yeah. Okay. He's I mean, he was he was doing it. He was doing it. He did not. He's my step uncle. Oh, yeah. Exactly. Exactly. Also in Willy or Nellis, as you could say, not a Jewish name, but he he's great. And he he just has incredible stories. I mean, started playing again was like 15 with James Brown and Hendrix back in the day. And then, you know, his later years in the Jim Balushi band. Oh, nice. Yeah. And Joseph, the Technicolor dream coke. He was touring with that. Like just he's a lifer driver. They live in Malibu. But he's got incredible stories of all those shows. Oh, of course. Definitely. Definitely. Definitely. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Going out there actually in June. Yeah. No, no, it's my grandmother's 90th. You remember those in Malibu? Yeah, she does. With them. Oh, nice. Nice. Nice. She's gonna be 90. Yeah. She's gonna be 90. So we're all going out there. I haven't been in since '07 in California. And I'm originally I'm originally from there, but I have not been there since so long. Was that a legal thing? No, just, you know, just yeah, you know what? That's cool. Yeah. Why haven't I been out there? Who does? Why did you move out here? Do you probably like when I was like four? Okay. I lived in Albany. And then you moved here when I was like four to Brooklyn. All right. So you're from here. Oh, no, definitely. So that's what we have for the lineup of nine 30. There's not a lot of options. Right. I think I don't. You know what? I didn't include it. So rent a step. It was a half an hour. Correct. What was right after instead? Right after rent in Stippy was are you afraid of the dark on Nickelodeon? That was the anthology horror show. This episode, a group of kids called the Midnight Society gather around a fire to tell eerie tales. First up, lost brothers in the woods realize their only hope of rescue is a phantom cab. That was a fun show. Maybe I did watch that. Okay. What were the other options? American Gladiators featured on MTV Sports that night. Okay. So now in American Gladiators, what I'm trying to think of, how many years was that with like nitro? I didn't watch it. Nitro's autobiography is pretty fascinating, I should mention. Interesting. Yeah. Gemini. Gemini. Okay. Let's go with that. Because that was definitely zap. Yeah. And only because I wanted to see the one with the guns. Yeah. It wasn't an episode of American Gladiators. It was an episode of MTV Sports featuring the American. Oh, interesting. Yeah. Okay. Also improv tonight was on it. Oh, so that was Dan. Dan Cortez. Dan Cortez. Okay. True. I love this place. True. Sunday night, the Lord's Night for people who aren't Jews. Saturday nights, the Lord's Night for you people. Definitely. Would you go at the day to clock? In living color. So you were a hardcore and living color fan? So my family was. So I would watch with my parents. Yes. So your strict parents that wouldn't let you watch anything would let you watch in living color. So my parents are the key to my comedy career is that they've introduced me to comedy throughout my entire life when it was fire sign theater albums to shows like this. We're getting there to in living colors. No, no. So like when I listened to albums, which I would take out from the library, I started with Chichochang. And right. Exactly. You say they're strict, but they listen. I listen to whatever I want. We were the household where you could swear. But if you said shut up, like you were grounded. Right. Because that's offensive. Right. Exactly. But they're swearing constantly and screaming. It was just doing what you know. I never swore. My sister used to swear all the time. We were going to the beach this summer actually. It was 90. I was probably earlier than this. And my mother used to make us go to the beach every Tuesday and every Friday. And we had like eight kids in the car. I used to sit in a tent and eat bagels and read comics. That's what I do to the beach. But this cop pulled this over because there were too many kids in the car. In a tent? Yeah. Yeah. To avoid the saunter or avoid everyone. And pretty much both. Okay. And I remember one time I was at the beach. We're at Good Harbor Beach in Gloucester, Massachusetts. And I went to the snack stand to get a bagel. And this girl in front of me, I got the last one. And if she was like some teenage girl and a bikini and I was maybe 11 or 12, I'd probably look like I was 15. And I went all arm wrestling for it, which is clearly a joke. And she went, Oh my God. It was great. It was a highlight of my. The movie that is your life. It should. I can't. You have to include your family at the beach, you and your own little tent with comic books, even bagels. Yeah, that's exactly what it is. And people are like throwing the Frisbee over the tent. Oh yeah. And going, Oh, don't worry, that's our son in there. That's what he does. Yeah. Like he has some sort of disease. No, no, he's just in there. No, no, just doesn't like everybody. But so this cop pulled this over because we have too many kids in the car. Oh, yeah. My sister was maybe seven or eight. And she goes, fuck you, pig. Oh, my God. And asshole. I never like my family's probably still never heard me swear. Unbelievable. Yeah. Wow. So so yeah, we would watch that. So this episode is a rerun of the very first in living color and they're making a big deal out of it here. They're saying the very first homeboys, the very first men on film, a Fox classic, the very first episode of in living color, see where it all started. Wow. Yeah, I'm right there. I know. I'm sure we watched that one. I think I definitely watched it. I watched the first season pretty religiously. But then I kind of just got sick of it. Yeah, I mean, how many seasons was living color total? About nine. Okay, so I was on the last season. Wow. Okay. So I think I'm probably what did only. So this was 92. Yeah, so I probably did three years of it. Yeah. I should mention too, for for people local going down area on this page, this is the Boston edition of the of the TV guide. There is a coupon for Whalom Park. Oh my God. Whalom time rides and water slides opens at noon for Monday madness, for $2.99. All day ride pass. That's great. That's pretty good. Oh, definitely. So I definitely would not have watched in living color this night. I would have watched a show called Hi, Honey, I'm home. Wow. Do you remember this show? No, I have no idea. So this was an experiment that Nicket Knight did in an original programming. Nicket Knight didn't do a lot of original programming, but they realized that these sorts of 50 sitcoms are very popular. And so what this was was they called it an instant rerun. Okay. It was a show that Nickelodeon produced in conjunction with, I believe it was ABC. And so it would air first on ABC on I think Wednesday nights. And then would air on Nickelodeon on Sunday nights. And they called it an instant rerun. Wow. And the show, the premise of the show was it was a bit like the Charmings. If you remember the show, no, no, no, no. And there was a 1950s television family that was called the Nielsen's that were transported to 1992. Oh, wait, maybe I do know this. And so it was like a typical, leave it to Beaver, Donna Reed type family dealing with. Yeah, yeah, I think I know what it is. It was a pretty funny show. Were you watching it on the Wednesday and the Sunday? I actually watched both. Okay. I usually did watch it both times. But it didn't last very long. It was a pretty good show. And I thought it was a fairly innovative, weird idea of the show. Yeah, definitely. No, no, I think I do remember. Yeah. So what would have gone with that? 830, what'd you go with? Real world. But with the real world. Yeah. So this was 92. I believe this was season two of the room. Season two. Yep. This would have been the LA cast, which featured Dominic, one of my favorite members of the room from Ireland from Ireland. Yep. And the cowboy. We got the cowboy. John Brennan, who was a story. Right. Right. And he was he had a career. I believe like, I didn't really follow. He was from Owensboro. I remember that one from Kentucky, which is also considered the barbecue capital of the ice. I like Tammy. I don't really think Tammy. Right. Yeah. No, she was great. Well, and right. And then who else was there was David? We talked about David. Beth. Beth L and Beth B. Okay. Wow. Yeah. Okay. That's the last check. That's exactly the thing in her face. And she was kind of bitchy. And then Beth L was the lesbian that worked on the movie Fantasm 3. Oh, wow. Yeah. I like real world then is when everyone had jobs. Who's in it? They tried to have a lot, but they also tried to pull together different people. Exactly. Like, what is this? People from different walks of life, maybe morphed into a show where no one had careers. Everybody. Everyone wants to hook up. Everyone wants to hook up. Everyone wants to hook up. But also you would see all the characters all the time because they just stayed in the house. Yeah. These seasons, you would you would miss a character for like three or four. Yeah. They would do live in their lives. I remember when David, the stand up comedian, was kicked out of the house for pulling Tammy's sleeping bag off. That's right. And she wasn't not funny. Right. They replaced him with a guy who was in a band called Perch. And wanted to be sort of a Seattle rocker, maybe all I remember is the others on the way. Oh, dude. Oh, they went to see him. And they were like, no. Yeah, it was our new roommate. Yes. Because they had two new roommates right here. They auditioned them or interviewed. They interviewed them. They did interview them. And they had another roommate because I can't remember her name, but she was a cop got married. Oh, yes. Hispanic, I believe. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. And she got. Yep. That's right. And then David flipped out on John because he had styrofoam all over the house. I remember he goes, D is styrofoam. Pick it up, motherfucker. Like he got in his face. Like because John was putting on a roller blades in a corner with a cowboy hat on and David got in his face. That's great. About picking up the styrofoam. That's great. Oh, there's styrofoam. Like just yelling it was famous. So he was before he was kicked out, though. Yeah. But he was on that. He was on a war path. Yeah, they pointed to that saying like, ah, he's really unstable. Right. That was what John about styrofoam. I wouldn't have watched the real world at this time as much as I loved it, but I would have seen it probably two or three times that weekend already. Okay. Yeah. So at 830, there is no doubt in my mind that I would have gone with rock. ROC. Yeah. Yeah. What was that? Rock was the show on after a living color was Charles Durning. Okay. And this was what it was about a garbage man. It was a sitcom, blue-collar sitcom. It was it was very much in the tradition of like Samford and Son, but a little more realistic. Okay. And this show was the cast of this show was a lot of stage actors. So the gimmick that this show kind of stumbled upon and I think this was its third season was they would do live episodes and a week was a live episode. So it would actually be on a Sunday on a Sunday. Wow. So it would actually do two episodes a night because they would do an east coast and a west coast. Wow. And so did you know that going into it? Yeah, you would know what rock live right? Okay. So this is the second season opener. Yep. This is the first year that Rock has been live and it was very exciting. Even though nothing went wrong than I remember, but I was very excited to watch a live sitcom. Which was a gimmick that a bunch of shows did. You had a live episode of Give Me a Break. It was live episodes every so often, but the rock live was a big deal. 9 o'clock, what'd you go with? T2, Judgment Day. And that would take me through the whole night. T2, Judgment Day, the previous summer's big blockbuster hit on the movie channel. Now, if I was going to go with a movie at this time, I would have gone with the NBC Sunday night movie, which was the network television premiere of Tremors. Wow. Awesome. Right, of course. One of Kevin Bacon's finest roles. So that was on NBC? NBC. Okay. So how much he was edited? It was edited. No, but there's not too many crazy scenes. There's no breasts. That's right. It's a PG movie and they give it only two stars, but they give Terminator 2 three stars. I don't agree with that. Michael Gross, this is his finest role. Michael Gross, the family ties. He plays a right-wing, sort of Ted Nugent survivalist type, married to Riva McIntyre. You have Fred Ward in this movie. It's a great, great movie, a really great movie. And Finn Carter, who was stunning and didn't really have much of an acting career. NBC, huh? Yeah, amazing. NBC. So I would have gone with that if I was going to go with a movie. Absolutely. 9/30, you didn't pick anything because he watched in T2. Definitely. Herman's head was on. Great show. Yeah. Would have gone with that. Yeah. Wasn't a Herman's head fan? I don't know why. Couldn't get into it. Yeah. Something about multiple too many characters, maybe. There were too many characters. No, not that that's an issue, but like in his head. I was interested for him. Yeah, something about it. I don't know why I wasn't. Someone just thought put it. Yeah. So Monday night, eight o'clock. Now, normally the saddest night of the week because you've gone to school, you've gone to work, but right. No, this is summer. You're not doing anything. It's summer time. I'm watching TV. Looking back in the AC. No, no, it's Fresh Prince. You got to go with it. Eight o'clock. So it is a repeat of Fresh Prince. This is Will Hyde's behind a tough exterior, reluctant to share his mother with another when V visits with her new man and his daughter, played by Raven Samoan. Right. I remember this on you. This was a good one. But you didn't watch The Young Indiana Jones, which is a show that weirdly people seem to not be that into. And who played the young Indiana Jones? The Young Indiana Jones was not played by the same actor who played the Indiana Jones and Indiana Jones III, which was Rogue Phoenix. In this one, he's played by Sean Patrick Flannery. Oh my god. Okay. No, definitely did not watch it. Although now, right. Sort of the premise that you kick before the podcast, I probably would watch that now. Yeah. Yeah. Definitely. I'd like to receive that again. I was never a huge Indiana Jones fan. Where is that? Is that on something? It was on ABC. I don't know if it's been released on DVD. I could probably get you a copy. Right. That's something to think about. In 1992, now, there is a movie on it at a clock that was a big fan of at the time, sort of not publicly. Okay. Go on. It's called Two Moon Junction, starring Cheryl and Finn. Okay, no idea. And this was an erotic thriller. Oh, okay. From 1988. This is pre-Twin-Preeks Cheryl and Finn. Okay. This is a blonde Cheryl and Finn. And it's sort of... What channel is this? See, here's why I wouldn't watch it, but this was sort of a parody of the Sandra D movies of the 50s. Okay. And the lead guy is Richard Tyson from Three O'Clock High. Okay. And kindergarten cop. Kindergarten. Yeah. It was on TV 50, which is a UHF station. So it would have been heavily edited. I don't know why you would even watch it. Right, exactly. In that case, because it's not a great movie. So, barring that, I would have gone with the evening shade. 8.30, what'd you go with? So, I picked that Jackie Mason special, and not that I would have watched it then. Right. But as I said, with my family, we, if there was, we watched family together, we watched TV together. Right. Because you only have one TV in the house aside from when you had hidden under your bed? That's right. That's right. So, with cable, like, I think we would automatically watch something with comedy. Right. If it was stand-up, you guys would watch it. And my dad took me to Jackie Mason show, where I was definitely the youngest person there. Oh, yeah. I bet. I bet you are. Did you see Jackie Mason sitcom chicken soup? Oh, I think I might have. Yes. Definitely. No, no, no. I don't mind Jackie Mason. I actually prefer caddyshot too to the original caddyshot. You know what? I feel like if I say that right now, as soon as I go home, my best friends will be there ready to kill me. But I mean, I kind of like it as well. I think it's more entertaining. I think it pulls up more in repeat viewings. That's very true. Oh, no doubt. Yeah. So, and also, another reason why I picked Jackie Mason is, when I would fly, when I flying to California on an airplane, I'd always listen to the comedy channel of... I like that you added it was on an airplane. Right. Just in case people don't... In case you have, I know how I get to, how I get to the west coast. And it would always be, you know, just, you know, a selection of comics. Right. And I remember specifically hearing him and hearing his voice and just laughing on the plane and not even at the actual jokes, but his cadence and leverage. Yeah, you know, like Jackie Mason thing that he's got going. Right. And then something about, you know, the Jew, which like, oh, this guy, he's like rapid fire. Oh, yeah. And, you know, I didn't want to listen to some of the music on the plane. Right. And also, like, I remember, whenever I hear music that I did hear on the planes, I get like a bad... I'm not, I'm not a great, not a great flyer. Yeah. So, and I would make me think of like, oh, I don't want to listen to that song. So Jackie Mason was more of a distraction for it. It's like a subtle, so to relax. 92 was the first time I flew. Okay. I was in this thing called Odyssey of the Mind, which was a thing for nerdy kids. Yeah. Yeah. And we made it to the world finals in Colorado. Oh, wow. And so it was the first time I ever had a flying airplane. I was 12 years old. I had like four or five panic attacks. Wow. I didn't fly again until 2001 when I moved to England. That was the next time I flew. But yeah, I don't remember. No, I think I take an out of van. I take an out of it to fly now. Oh, yeah. Oh, I like flying now. I don't mind it. You know, if I don't fly for a long time, it's stressful. But if I start flying a bunch of if I if like say a year goes by and I'm I'm used to it, you know, we're probably relaxing before a flight is like, I don't want to figure out the soaked in PCP. You might want to have a wet that they get on the plane. You know, we never see that get the wet. I knew what it is just because the term wet, but I never call it wet daddy. What'd you call it? Just wet? It was just laced. It was one of those things where like if you watch any movie where somebody doesn't know what they're getting into when they're smoking a joint, and the big trick is like, surprise, angel does exactly. It was just getting dusted. Also, Paul's boutique. Second Beastie boys was heavily based on wet daddy's on on PCP because they were they're smoking it throughout the entire album. Is that why you did it? Yeah. Yeah. No doubt. Big Beastie Boys. Sure. Adrocks Dad from Wakefield, Massachusetts. Interesting. Yes. He's written a whole book of plays about Wakefield. I would frequent the extra large clothing store in LA. Yeah. And buy stuff there because I was such a huge Beastie Boys fan. It's real Horowitz. Is that it? I think that's his name. Oh, okay. That's his dad's name. Yeah. That's why the Beastie Boys don't they reference Woodman's of Essex? That's right. That's right. There you go. Great fried lobster. Thanks. Fried lobster. What's the point? It doesn't taste like fried. You're paying for the lobster, but you taste and fried. Get the clamps. Yeah, but you can get good fried clamps at a lot of different places. Yeah, but you know, just get a regular lobster. Why? Why fried? Seems like a waste of money. So is it more expensive than regular lobster? Well, yeah, just the whole lobster. No doubt. Right. Right. I think it kind of kills it. Right. It's something different, right? You know, like fried, like fried lobster. It's a little decadent. I also said that the drive to Essex, it's nice. It's a nice drive. Hop on 133 if you're in the New England area. Drive to Essex. I would recommend you go to the clam box and not. Clam box is good as well. Yeah. If you're not from New England, the the fried clam I've heard described once as the barbecue of the North. No, no, no, no, no. It's very, very similar. I think that's a good action. Huge rice seafood fan, definitely. Fried fried clamps. Fried clamps. The clams trip was popular. Without bellies. Without bellies. Sure. Was popularized in America by the Howard Johnson's Hotel Channel. Interesting. What do you prefer? Oh, full. Full belly. Yeah. If you've got to do it, you've got to go with the flavor and the flavors of the belly. Fried clamps. So 830, what'd you go with? So that was, yeah, that was the second basis. That was Jackie Mason, right? So nine o'clock, where'd you go? WWF wrestling. So you went with WWF wrestling. You did not go with Murphy Brown, which I watch. You were a big wrestling fan, I can say, without even knowing it, I imagine. Only in those years. Right. Right. Again, my family was the one we would get the pay-per-view event. Okay. And I would invite all my friends over. So we would, we would buy, it was like 30 bucks and have, I was so in wrestling at that time, I remember having a pad of paper and they would announce matches and I would write them down and I'd just stare at it. I don't know why I thought that was fun. It was like fantasy football. Exactly. So this summer, I don't know, we, we had a summer slam. Summer slam. Summer slam 92. Right. So this is, you know, Hogan, macho man, good fun. And then I went to college and wise up. You were like, I'm going to smoke these wet taties. Wet daddy sounds like a 90s WWE of wrestler. Oh my god. Or it sounds like something that one of them would say. Yeah. Yeah. Wet daddy. I would have gone. You know what would be funny is if there was someone who just called regular marijuana cigarettes and dried daddy. Some of them dried daddy. Keep in mind. So we would smoke. I've always had this in the back of my hand of like stuff that I talk about. But I can't believe it's coming out now. Well, that's what I do here. People have people confess all kinds of things. We would smoke anything mixed with weight, honestly. Anything. Okay. Definitely. And the only reason to do it is because you would smoke. So you would, I remember we would mix tons of things because again, marijuana was, you know, the drug of choice in that, in that freshman year of high school college. Excuse me. So nine 30, what'd you go with? I think no, that wrestling's a good one. wrestling's a good one. Yeah. So because nine 30 was tough because the Republican National Convention was on. And we're dealing with that for many of the days many of the days at ruins nights. Definitely. I'm going to go on a showtime they had the comedy club network. Okay. And it featured Steve Oh, which I believe is Steve Odenkirk, not Steve, Steve Oh. From Rob Manganati. No. And who I'm not. Never had showtime. Really? Yeah, never. We had most channels. And then I built a black box. So I got everything. Oh, yes, the black box. I built two black box. I should mention on MTV at 10 o'clock that night was sex in the 90s, which was a documentary series that I thought I was going to get in trouble for watching, but absolutely loved. Probably watched it. Tuesday night, eight o'clock. What'd you go with? Full House. Full House. This is when it had moved from Fridays. There was no longer a staple of the TJF lineup. Sure. They tried to cornerstone the Tuesday night lineup with it. Did you watch this every week? No, you know what? I with my eight 30 choice of Quantum Leap. I'm sure I was between the two. Okay. So you didn't watch the first half hour of this Quantum Leap episode. Well, does it say the description? Yes. So this is Sam wheels into a New York cabby with a fair chance of earning independence from his company. If he isn't killed first. Okay. Was that a rerun? No, it's a rerun. Okay. Yeah. So I was probably. Yeah, I was probably between the two. It's all repeats because this is this in the summer. Yeah. So Full House is DJ's date with a heavy metal band member, Rox Danny, who leads Joey and Jesse on a recon mission to the drive in. Right. Okay. Definitely. Yeah. That's a good one. They're good. I probably would have gone with the Full House at this time. Which one's that? That's one with with Danny. Oh, right. But I should mention one thing in this particular TV guide, the owner of this TV guide, this is not one of my originals from what I had. I don't know where I obtained this one, but they made a star next to what they wanted to watch. All right. What do we got? Thursday night. It's the only thing they've ever starred in this entire TV guide. Okay. And do we have their name on the other? We don't. It was since peeled off. Okay. But it is on Amy Network, Diana, tears of a princess. Was she she didn't die? She didn't die. Yeah. This is an updated profile on the Princess of Wales, including her childhood, her popularity and her recent marital woes. Stop everything. But there was a special one. And it was on the Disney Channel. And it sounds pretty awesome. And I kind of want to see it now if I can find a copy. It's called Big Bird in Japan. And it's while investigating a mystery, the Sesame Street star is stranded in Tokyo. I don't know, but I think I might have seen it because I have my brother, my little brother. It sounds awesome. He wasn't blue though. No, that was all that bird, which is one of the most depressing movies of all three. Okay. That's my, at the time, my brother might have read when you're renting movies. Video Smith, Cool Corner. I used to, the Cool Corner video Smith, used to have the biggest selection of cult movies. And I used to take two trains and a bus to get there from ours where I grew up so that I could rent a racer head in John Waters movies. I had my own membership there. I saved up the cash for the deposit. And I used to literally took me an hour and a half, two trains and a bus. I would rent the movie, go home, watch it, and do the same trip the next day to return it. So I live right behind there. Okay. We have Sound Smith, Book Smith, all together. And I also, Video Smith was the first time that the upper rack was the pornos. Okay. So they also had laser discs there. That's true. I actually saw my first portal on laser disc. Really? Yeah. Who had a laser disc player? Oh, my buddy Aaron, who lived also in Cool Corner. And he would purchase laser disc? No, it was his dad's. It was his dad's. His dad had laser disc porn on him. That's right. That's right. And for a while, I was like, oh, so that's the only way you can watch it if you have this laser disc. Well, if you're a snob, it's the only way. That's right. I will only watch my pornography. So the best thing about Video Smith is the CAV laser disc. That's right. The children's area had a giant bus where the screen was in the middle of the bus. Yes, I remember that. You could open the bottom, and there was the VCR. So me and my buddy, Sam Troy at the time, would go there. Is his name since then? You're quick. Very quick. Listen, Florida. No, it's a lawyer. So maybe I shouldn't say that. But he would take one of the pornos from the top shelf. Put it in the children's thing, and we would run out. And I remember running down to Soundsmith, lying on the floor in tears, laughing at that. We wouldn't even watch the reaction. You're a terrible person. How old were you? What was this? 92? I was... I was this year. No, no, no. 92 was... Yeah, probably those in the high school years. That's terrible. Yeah, that's terrible. That was terrible. 830, what would you go with? We are gonna go with... Right, so that's the jump between... Second episode on Step by Step, which is a very sleazy show. I would have gone with Arthur C. Clark's mysterious world on the Discovery Channel. This episode was a look at Stonehenge. Also, Super Day of Osborne was on Showtime, but I watched that Friday nights at 11. So I would have seen this episode. Okay. 9 o'clock, what'd you go with? Get smart. Get smart, so you didn't do Roseanne. No, I did not. Do you know Roseanne Fan? No, I don't think I was. You didn't watch it since? No, not really. It's a great show. You used to watch it, but did you watch Get Smart? Definitely. Oh, of course. I think I watched since I was like four or five. My parents were... Again, they almost... They sat me down to watch things. It is a good show. They molded me in their image. My parents never did. That made me watch Tourist Trap. That was a few things in my life. Yes, my parents, originally with Betamax, I would watch Star Wars, a bootleg version of Star Wars. The Grease. Okay. And for some reason, the movie Coma. Coma, right? No, why? Again, my parents are weird, but I called it the lady who fell down the stairs. That's what I called the movie. I think that's set in Boston. I believe it is. I think we made it this year for TBS or TNT. So, and King Kong, the original King Kong. 1933? That's right. So, those are the four. I watch those all the time. So, I would have watched... Now, for the most part, everything was in reruns, but there was a summer series here that I remember really loving, and it was called Freshman Dorm. It was a 60-minute drama about college freshmen. Robin Lively was in it, who I'm a big fan of. She's from Teen Witch, Blake Lively's older sister. Okay, well. And also, Jason Lively was in Night of the Creeps. Molly and Danny, who's Robin Lively and Matthew Fox, who was later on Party of Five, find their new love nest isn't so cozy when her theater work and his jock friends create tension. Meanwhile, we need her match. This is for ourselves. Jock friends create tension is usually the thing. Casper Van Dean was also in this show. Okay. Remember him? No, no, no, no, no, no. He was sort of a late 90s hunky actor. He was in Sleepy Hollow. Okay, all right. And then he kind of disappeared. Yeah, yeah. He was like going to be the next big thing, and then he kind of disappeared. So I definitely would have gone with that, which went from 99.30, which means I would have missed out on one of my favorite shows, which was always on after our FSC Clark's Mysterious World on the Discovery Channel. Okay. Beyond Tamara. Oh, good enough. Which was a science show from Australia in this particular episode, DNA fingerprinting. Mm. Pretty exciting. It is exciting. Uh, so what'd you go with? We're on to Wednesday night now. Uh, sure. I, I, I did put something 9.30 and I don't, here's why, and I don't know why in the cold of the night and you didn't know what it was. I don't know what it is. But here's what, if it was a movie that had nudity. It's on Cinemax. Okay, so Cinemax 9, a 9.30 movie? Yeah, it's called the, there's Cold of the Night. It only gets one star. Clearly. It's like Thriller. It's, it's almost two hours long though, which is unusual. So I'm going to look it up here in the handy-dandy movie guy. Nice. The back of TV guy. I'm excited. I've never heard of it. I've never seen it. I'm sure I watched it. It says in the Cold of the Night from 1991, is rated R for violence, strong language, and sexual situations. Done. Doesn't say nudity though. Still though, as a kid, when you would see that, or when I would see that, you'd be like, oh yeah, I'm watching this. So it does have a cameo by Mark Singer, the Beastmaster himself. Okay, well. And it says, "A photographer played by Jeff Lester is tormented by a reoccurring nightmare in which he kills a woman." All right, I'm all over it. All right. And I don't know why I am. But, so again, summer, that's where I think my folks have gone to bed. As you can see, I've had this. And I can watch whatever I want right now, yeah. That sounds like a full-length movie version of a Hitchhiker episode. Yeah, yeah. Well, I mean, it's got a cool name, but I think I would wait for the opening scene. It's not in the heat of the night. No, it's in the cold of the night. And it's not in the thick of the night with Alan Thicke. We're in the cold of the night here. Your place is freezing. Are you really cold? No, my legs are cold. Oh, yeah. Mine, I think my house is very cold. It's only here. Well, we are a homeowner. I am a homeowner. That's a thing. Why, I burn the oil. Of course, are you kidding me? Oh my god, it's ridiculous. I've got my heat on right now, and I live alone. But you're sitting right by the vent. So it's blowing. Keep it cold? Well, not only that, but like, whenever something happens in your house that breaks, it's a grant. Oh, easily. And that is a great-- like, I have an apartment. So my landlord is taking care of it. So like, you've got to spend money where you can. I mean, yeah, I'm not. But I remember hearing that Tom's the one. I was like, yeah, it is freezing. Yeah, it's cold here. All right, it's cold. So when people say something-- And he rises upstairs. I'm sure you're up there. So you're fine. Yeah, yeah, it's a little cold here. But I like it really cold. So do I. If I was living here alone, which hopefully I will not be there. My wife has left me, I would just have no lights on. Because I can-- Say money that way? No. No, I call it blind practice. So if there were no lights that would put black in here, I could do everything in this house that I normally would do. Except when I know where everything is. Interesting. And I would probably-- Are you anticipating going blunt? I'm not anticipating. But do you have a fascination with it at all? No, not really. I just don't like the lights on. I'll have them all up. I also won't sleep in a room with a mirror in it. I don't know what that's about. Hotels? That might be rough. I cover it. I cover the mirror. Whoa, that's a waste of me out. I think it's because of the "Hug of Bunch" movie. But I'm not trying to get through it. So Wednesday night at 8 o'clock, what'd you go with? "Wonder Years." "Wonder Years." Big fan of the "Wonder Years." Oh, come on. That's why I've re-watched all of them when it was on Netflix. I don't know if it's on-- I think it took it off, though. Yeah, well, they had a music rights issue. But "Time of Life" just announced recently that the entire series will be coming out on DVD with the original music uncut in the fall of 2014. So there's been a lot of talk about the retail price. What's the website that you monitor for stuff like that? TV shows on DVD.com. OK. You can sign up to get alerts. OK, sure. Actually owned by TV Guide now, the TV show. Uh-huh. Yeah, it just-- But "The Wonder Years." Oh, yeah, yeah. We have the purchase. That's a day one purchase for me. So this is a repeat. But this one is with the spring formal approaching, Kevin and Winnie steer each other to new dates, but experience awkward consequences right? Double dating to the dance. That's terrific. That's a great one. That's a really good one. That's right up there with the one where they go to the drive-in together. Yes. But I wouldn't have watched it this night. Because it was a repeat. And instead, we had a brand new episode of "Unsolved Mysteries" on NBC. OK. So we have, among the segments, is an update on two hitchhikers who may have information on a suspect. Well, the update was exciting. The updates were always scarier, for some reason. But it was the way they said the update. Yes. You were like, yeah, there was some music behind it. Yep. Also, repeat reports include the case of mistaken identity that claimed the life of a Phoenix computer salesman in 1990 and the Tennessee investigation into the disappearance of a 79-year-old pastor. This computer episode is one of the most terrifying things I've ever seen in my life. Really? It's probably on YouTube or something. You really want to scare the shit out of yourself? Yeah. So this guy in 1988 is selling a computer on like a version of Craigslist kind of thing, but a printed one. So this guy goes, OK, I'll meet you at this motel. And I'll buy the computer. OK. So the guy goes there with his wife. The guy is like, oh, great. This computer is great. I'll buy it. And they're hanging out with the guy for a while. The guy goes, all right. Let me go get some cash and I'll come back. Guy leaves. He comes back and beats them with hammers. No way. And it's the account of like the-- I think one of them died. The husband of the wife died. What? And they're interviewing the one that lived about how this dude just beat them to death. Out of nowhere. Out of nowhere. Didn't even take the computer. Why? And they never found the guy. So this is Pre Craig's list killer. Yeah. Yeah. Wow. Insane. Terrified me to this day. That's tricky. I will never buy a computer from someone in a motel. Just because of that. And that's why I don't have any money. I have sold a computer on his Craigslist, a net book. And the guy stiffed me for 40 bucks. He just gave me a wad. He gave me a wad. And he got out. It was pouring rain. And he got out. It was in Central Square in the-- Well, there's your mistake. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. It's just one of the countries. And it was the big parking lot. And it was pouring rain. And he got in the car. And he jokes on him. That net book stunk. And it froze all the time. Well, I've never seen more people publicly defecating than I have in that parking lot in Central Square. Not at all once. It wasn't like a record breaker. Oh, it's a-- It's only because they have a number of shelters there, I believe. Well, I don't know if that's the only reason. What? I'm going in the burial grounds. Underneath that parking lot at the mural. Exactly there, yeah. Yes. Yes. So Wednesday at 8.30, what'd you go with? Dougie Houser. Hey to Dougie Houser. I liked it because-- It was aspirational. No, that's like an 8.8.30 kind of after one of your years, I'm watching something else that's also about teen angst, you know? Fair enough. This particular episode, spring break in Palm Springs, is just what the doctor orders for Vinny, who purses a jealous friend out, is Janine and Dougie. Vinny's from Massachusetts. That's right. So I'm still watching every now and then. But at the time, I just, for some reason, didn't like it. Sure. I'd be watching "Unsolved Mysteries," but I will note that the old George Reeve Superman was on Nickelodeon. Ooh, OK. 9 o'clock, what'd you go with? With Seinfeld. Absolutely Seinfeld says, when Seinfeld first came on, it was on Sunday night, it was opposite "Get a Life." "Get a Life," that's right. And "Get a Life" killed it in the ratings. And yeah. They moved it to Wednesday nights at 9, where it was opposite home improvement. Yeah, that's right. Easy call here with Seinfeld. Yeah, I hated home improvement. Yeah, you should have. You should have. This was a new episode of Seinfeld. So this is when it was kind of a mid-season summer replacement series, so it was like hanging by a thread before they moved it to Thursdays. So this is part two of a two-parter. Jerry and George ride in a police car, get tipping advice from a suspect like Clint Howard. Love this episode. I love this episode. Who's passed his laid out by the lieutenants seeking his confession. This is when they go to LA, right? It's after Kramer. Yep. Kramer's trying to make it big. It's trying to sell his-- oh, here's a good story. He's trying to sell his treatment, which is the name of his-- to Fred Savage. Yes, a couple of years. From that episode, last punk band I was in named The Treatment. The Treatment Based on that episode. Yes, that's right. Nice, fantastic. So 9.30 would you go with? Melrose Place. The second half of Melrose Place. Yep. That's a show I did not like. That's a show that, again, watching it for women and no real caring about it. Yeah, why not? I remember there was a summer-- Have the walk clearly on it. Yeah, that's it. There was a summer a few years ago where our mutual friend Mike Kaplan became obsessed with Melrose Place and watched-- like re-watched the entire series. Wow. This was like maybe eight years ago. Yeah, it was really weird. I should ask him about it. But in this episode, Sandy gets her first movie role and her friends get short-shifted, Billy Andrew Shoe-- Yeah, sure. --a little bit of a shoe brother. Elizabeth Shoe, I ran into at the top of a mountain in Hawaii while my wife was bleeding. Interesting. Long story. She can't tell us they need to be-- You wrapped it up nicely though. Yes, maybe someday I can share that story. So I would have watched Wings, which is a show that I absolutely loved during the rated show. Didn't watch it. Great show, great show. So Thursday night, eight o'clock, what'd you go with? Simpsons. Simpsons Thursday night, this was before it had moved to Sunday. It was up against Cosby in its final years. Definitely. Were you a Simpsons fan from day one and watched-- Yeah, they watched Trace from Trace the Almond Show, definitely. Really? You still watch it? Oh, no, I do not, I don't. When did you bail? I'm going to say it's got to be around college. OK. Yeah, because again, I think the first two years of college, it was like we would always go to the comments room on Sunday to try to watch it, but then just lost time. I only own-- So you didn't have a TV in your dorm room? So no, I did, but it was a terrible, terrible connection. A terrible, terrible reception. It was up. So you kind of straddled the New Hampshire border. So the New Hampshire Channel actually came in really nicely. What we did my sophomore year, though, was that we had illegally. Of course, it was illegal, but tapped the comments room table to my friends' TV in his dorm room. Yeah, I did that when I went to college. And it was Space Coast, coast to coast. Yeah, Cartoon Network. And just whatever we could find. And if there was a signal issue, it meant that somebody was watching it in the comments room. So we would go in our drunken PCP states, run in the comments room, harass who was ever watching in the comments room, to turn it off. So we could have a better connection. You just watched it in the comments room? No, because you can't do drugs in the comments room. Oh, good shit. When I went to college in London, I stole a cable from the pub behind the dorms. OK, exactly. It's perfect. So in the comments room, also, we would-- there was a pool table. We would use the pool. We would throw the pool balls through the vending machines. Glass to steal all of the food. You're not coming across very well here, Dan. These are the old days. I'm cleaned up. I've cleaned up. 11 months sober. That's right. So, yeah, Simpsons was a repeat. I would have been torn between this and a different world, which I did love. Thursday nights were tough, because it was Simpsons' different world. And who's the boss was still on, which I watched even though? Yeah, I didn't watch that that much. 8.30, what'd you go with? Cosby. Cosby. That's an 8.30. So that's an hour. No. No, two different episodes. A different world was on at 8. Cosby was on at 8.30. Oh, so wait, was that ever flip-flop, though? They tried to flip it this year. Cosby was always the eight o'clock show. That's right. The Simpsons really gave it a run for its-- Ha-ha. --so they flipped them. Yes. But in this episode is a repeat, while Cliff designs. In addition to the Huxable Home, Elvin and Sandra have designs on buying a home of their own. This is a pretty good episode. Yeah, definitely. But at 8.30, I would have had to say, sorry Cosby. I'm watching the final season of "Growing Pains." This one, "The Family Holds" a seaver summit after Maggie gets a job offer in Washington that's too good to refuse. This is part one of two of the finale. Finale, that's right. That's right. I probably did watch this. I cried very much. But as I mentioned, I'd already seen that I was very upsetting. And at 8.30 PM, Fox Genius moved. They had new episodes of series in the summer and summer series. They were one of the first networks to do this. And so the summer of '92, they were showing first-run season three of Parker Lewis-- OK, that's right. --that were set in the summer. What are we saying in the summer, yeah, yeah, yeah. And this was when they changed the title from "Parker Lewis Can't Lose" to "Just Parker Lewis." That's right. This took place in the summer, which I thought was perfect, because it's your kid in the summer. You're watching a show set in the summer. Yup. Sit comes or never set in the summer. No, they were never. That's right. You never knew what these people did in the summer. And so it was a genius for Fox News with Beverly Hills 90210. You did it with Parker Lewis. It was great. So this is a really, really good episode. As the summer winds to a close, Parker and Mikey decide to treat their dates to a fancy meal. Jerry bites off more than he can chew when he hangs out with Brad Penny's gang. Wow. This was the last episode aired of Parker Lewis. It went on a hiatus after this. It never came back. OK. So what are you? Are you watching that or the growing bit? I'm watching that, because I've already seen the growing bit. Normally, I would have watched growing pains. But being that it was a repeat, and Parker Lewis was the first one on a new episode, I absolutely would have watched Parker Lewis this summer. I love, love, love Parker Lewis. "Underrated Show" still holds up. I still watch it. I still love it. Great show. How do you-- do you own it? I do. You did. So the first two seasons were released on DVD by Shub Factory. The third season was not. There's some music rights issues. I do have-- How do music rights issues that-- yeah, wow, that's amazing. It was released on DVD in Germany. You could buy it on Amazon.co.uk. It's a little expensive. But I have DVDs I converted from the original broadcast tapes with commercials and everything of the entire series in Parker Lewis. Do you ever regret anything that you purchase? No. OK. That's what I was wondering. Occasionally, there have been times where I've bought things that I already owned without knowing what that's happened before. Wow. Oh, I've done that. It's something about it. But I never be full price for anything. Sure. So it's like I get a thrill out of finding it really cheap. OK. Interesting. And I'll be selling it. Yeah, OK. Some things I like to have multiple copies of, because I loan copies out to people. Sure, OK. Yeah, Parker Lewis, what a great show. 9 o'clock, what'd you go with? We are going with 902 and 0. So you want a 902 and 0? Yes. So this is a repeat from 1991. I never liked 902 and 0. This is Palm Springs weekend plans include time alone for Dylan and Brenda. So it was a lot of spring break being rerun in the summer. That was a 902 and 0 from the job. It started 8th grade where I would watch it with my girlfriend. But we would watch it while talking on the phone. You got a girlfriend in 8th grade? So I would-- she'd be at her house. I'd be in my house. But we would watch it while not talking to each other on the phone. Yeah, I did that with-- Why would I do it with it? I think that happened a lot. You'd just be on the phone for hours. And we might have done three-way calling. Yeah. Hello. Yeah. [LAUGHTER] Three-way. Because that was new then, too. I guess that's what kids do now. It's just like sitting on an instant messenger and texting or something. That's right. And yeah, we weren't really having a conversation. It was like, oh, that's exciting, or this is fun. Yeah. That's hilarious. Kids are dumb. So you're watching that. That's a full hour. You don't seem to pick anything at 9.30. At 9.30, I would have gone with the Showtime comedy club network. Again, the acts are Mike Bent and Caroline Montgomery. OK. So-- Caroline, she sounds like a comic. She's a comic. That's terrific. There's a stand-up comics. Mike Bent and Caroline Montgomery. Wait, no, it sounds like a comic book network. Somebody, there's another Montgomery that I was thinking of that I might have worked with. Elizabeth Montgomery from the witch. I definitely don't think I've worked with her. I don't think I've worked with her. She's sadly dead. I love her. So "Friday Night," the final night of the week-- One thing only. That's a movie night. You went with a movie night. It's a planet of the Apes. Planet of the Apes original. That's it. I loved all of those. Did you use to watch the TV series-- Definitely. --and cartoon. Definitely. Oh, the cartoon. It's your favorite planet of the Apes. The original. The original, for sure. Now, did you know the ending before the first time you saw it, or were you surprised? Yeah, see, again, that might have been one thing where you kind of watch it in pieces. But then, I'm sure this year, I was watching it front to back. Yeah, absolutely. So this was TJ AF, so you passed up family. Yeah, I wasn't into that. Not '92, I wasn't. OK. Yeah, there was a time. Whenever "Dinosaurus" was on at 9, which was a great TJ-- The puppets, right? Yeah, I might have watched one of those. Right. If I was going to go with a movie, I would have gone with the movie "Wolfen" on HBO. I don't know it. Oh, it's about a race of sentient, ancient werewolves and Gregory Hines and Albert Finier. OK. It's a pretty good movie, "The Wolf," and it's based on a long-term book. Oh, I do own "Wolfen." OK. I absolutely own "Wolfen." In my mind, I was like, why am I asking him? I know he owns it. Come to think of it, I'm not a huge werewolf fan, but if you look at my movie collection, I own almost every werewolf movie ever made. Including "Wolf." Including "Wolf." Of course. Yeah, sure. There's a good one called that Eric Redroad, who did the "Hitcher" and did "Dark." Oh, "Hitcher" is really scary. "Hitcher" is really scary. He did "New York." And it's called, I think it's called "Bad Moon." OK. It's got Michael Parre in it and Mario Hemingway. OK. And it's from the late '90s. And it's a pretty good movie. I think it was the last movie he directed. But yeah, "Friday," the must-see TV-- that was Friday nights-- Was "TGI" after "TGI" after "TGI." So that was something that, like, a couple of years before I was watching whatever it was on that. Right. But then it-- A new day to stop, by the way. Yeah, and I also was like, weekend movie, but we were talked about, like, if I was doing nothing on a "Friday Night," this was the beginning of years where you figure out, like, oh, I could go out on a "Friday Night" with friends-- Right. --that I was like, oh, it's a movie's only. Yeah, that makes sense. I mean, the "X Files" hadn't quite started yet. So "Sidings" was on at this time. OK. Which was-- What year is "X Files" starting? "X Files" I believe started in '93. OK. That's on the Netflix queue. It's just-- they're so overwhelming. It's a great show. Yeah, it's just, like, there's so many of them that I couldn't-- I can't get it. I want to watch them all. But-- yeah, I agree. It's hard to catch up. At this point was also when the Cosby Show replaced "Perfect Strangers" at 9.30 on the Boston station for some weird reason. And if I wanted to watch "Perfect Strangers," I used to have to unplug the cable and try to get a signal from Rhode Island. Oh, wow. OK, that's a commitment. That's committed. That's committed. I would do sometimes. It was commitment. But then "Swamp Thing" was also on. OK. And when "Civil War Soldiers" are sent to the 20th century. What channel is that? It's on USA. OK, terrific. No, I always feel the need to mention this. The only show my parents ever wouldn't let me watch, whichever forbidden in my house was 2020. Friday night's at 10 o'clock, because it scared me so much. OK. So I always feel obligated to read what the episode is about. So this week, it is a report on what producer Dean Erwin calls the rising level of violence occurring in civil courts. Since the beginning of this year, correspondent Bob Brown says nine people have been wounded and six people have been killed inside courtrooms. That's scary. Yeah, I don't remember that being a thing. Yeah, that's-- whether that started happening. Yeah, so see, if I had watched that, I would have not allowed my parents to go to court. Like New York courthouse or park at a court house. Jury duties, huh? Yeah, I would have freaked out. I would find out some excuse to get out of jury duty. So this is great. This is the end of our week. And finally, as you know, TV Guide is not just informative. It has opinions. And it cheers, and it cheers. OK. So I'd like to read you the cheers and cheers from this week, August 15, 1992, and see if you agree or disagree. Go for it. So first, we have a cheers. Cheers to the latest entry in TV's culture club TNT ScreenWorks, the new collection of TV movies penned by top playwrights. No way. You say you don't like plays? No, I don't. You're going to jeer that. Yeah, jeers. OK, we get a jeer. We have a jeers to those hokey rock-and-jock summer game music videos, purportedly concocted to celebrate the achievements of individual athletes. All the clips really managed to do was compound the already considerable schmaltz factor of NBC's Olympics coverage. I agree. Yeah, I'd agree. Definitely, definitely. Some of the songs they used were Mark Cohen's "Old Soldier" and Eric Clapton's "Wonderful Tonight." It with sports. Olympic sports, yeah. Wonderful tonight. Why is that even in summer? Swimming, I don't know. Maybe in a nice montage of slow-motion success, sir. Yeah, OK. Cheers to ABC's Nightline for adding investigative reporting to its journalistic repartee. Yeah, let's go with that. Yeah, OK. And finally, cheers to-- and cheerio to Ellister Cook, as he prepared us to hang it up, to hang up his hat after 22 years of hosting PBS's Masterpiece Theater. Oh, OK. Did I watch-- I think I did watch Masterpiece Theater. I never really watched Masterpiece. But only as a little kid. Right, if your parents were watching. Right, exactly. Isn't that OK? So no, that's cheers. You're going to cheer, though. Yeah, that's cheers. All right. Well, Dan Krohn, thank you so much for doing stuff. No, this was great. Should we really got some stuff? Yeah, you know what? I'm really happy in the choice that I made of that TV guide I was worried about spending. At first, I was like, let's just pick one and-- Yeah. --and just see what happened. And I was like, no, no, let's find something good. Let's put some time and do it. Yeah, I'd say I'm like 90% sure that this is accurate to what I would have watched. Excellent, excellent, thank you. Well, thank you very much. Well, there you go. That was Dan Krohn with his various teenage transgressions through drug use and general punk rakish rogue-ishness that I did not participate in as a kid, but he is doing much better now. And it made for a pretty interesting podcast. So I really enjoyed talking to Dan this week, and hopefully you enjoyed listening to it. So again, check back every Wednesday. We have a brand new episode of TV Guide and Counselor. Also, if you missed it, we had an episode on Saturday. It was a Saturday morning special with Sean Sullivan. So go back and check that out if you didn't see it. 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