TV Guidance Counselor
TV Guidance Counselor Episode 5: Josh Gondelman
Wait, you have a TV? No, I just like to read the TV guide read the TV guide. Don't need a TV Hello and welcome to another episode of TV guidance counselor I am Ken Reed and this is my podcast. Thank you for checking out the show and for everyone who's been checking out episodes and letting us know What you think I appreciate it and I love your comments and your questions So please go to our Facebook page Please continue to send emails at can and I can read calm leave comments anywhere that you can and let people know if you Like the podcast this week is another episode. I really think you're gonna enjoy I guess is my good friend comedian Josh Gondelman who you may know from modern-day Seinfeld on Twitter he's also an excellent writer with a ton of articles for all kinds of magazines and He is a funny guy. He started a Boston comedy a little bit after me And I always thought he was destined for greatness So he came and joined me at my house and this is the episode with Josh Gondelman Thank you for doing it. Welcome to my home. Thank you So Josh earlier has chosen a TV guide from the read our cards Which are extensive which are extensive more TV guides than I have ever seen in one place Well, the sad thing is that that's not even like a quarter of them. Where do you keep the rest of them basement? Basement. Yep. Yep. I'd buried them in the basement. It's like in World War two when people bury their valuables in the backyard Your home is like if you are a really organized jovial hoarder like everything looks really nice But there's just so much more of it than necessary. Why did you say if? Your home is because you are a very organized jovial hoarder. So the TV guide Josh has chosen is The week of October 13th through the 19th 1990. Yeah, so 24 years ago What what particularly drew you to this issue? I like Will Smith's hat. Okay cover of it. This is a high school report card on the new teen shows So on the cover we have Will Smith, Fresh Prince of Bel-Air, Charlie Schilader and Ferris Bueller the TV series, which was a huge success Except it wasn't and Cornemic as Parker Lewis from Parker Lewis can't lose So let's let's just get right into it. So Josh has gone through the week starting with Saturday And he has chosen what he would watch. So I am flipping along here And this is in primetime only. We didn't do Saturday morning. We didn't do anything outside of 8 to 10 p.m So Saturday I started with Saturday just cuz that's how yep, that goes. That's that's how the week starts for me I always go Saturday to Friday because I'm on TV. It's like a European calendar. Yeah. Yeah, it's a TV guide calendar TV guide It's a totally different system. Precisely. It's like the Jewish New Year. Right What is the Jewish New Year? It well, it's on a lunar calendar. So it's like September. Oh, gotcha So what's Passover? That's not New Year. No Passover is celebrating the Jewish people's exodus from slavery in Egypt That's sort of like New Year's all I know is that I can wait better than New Year's All I know is I can buy cane sugar cola on a much easier basis during that time Oh, yeah, you can't you can't have corn syrup, which is not kosher for Passover So they have they make it with cane sugar for the Jews. Why isn't corn syrup kosher? It's it's kosher, but not kosher for Passover during Passover. This is fascinating. Josh is a Jew, everybody That's I'm like I always feel like I hit the ground super Jewy on every podcast I'm on and then it never comes up for the last 50 minutes does everybody ask you about juice? No, this time you brought it up. No, I brought it up I always bring it up and which is weird because which is the pretty Jewish thing to do to just bring up how do you all? Well, it's kind of Jewish or it's just like anybody else who's like you wait, that happens a lot, right? but You can't have you're not supposed to have grains really because the matzah that the tradition the unleavened bread unleavened bread Which is like a a communion wafer. Yes, okay, and it was not given time to rise So you're not supposed to have like other car beef. It's like religious Atkins It's in order at the slack. You're supposed to abstain from staying from from grains That sounds like a lame Stand from grains. Yeah, that's like a land thing where people like I'm gonna give up eating more than gallon of ice cream Stand from something that a little more, but all right, but it also sounds like something there would be like An educational hip-hop video like abstain from grains and then stay in school. Yeah stay in school and abstain from great Right, right. You'll live forever if that's the case. Yeah, I also Ametsopated from slavery you have that yes, which I think is way better than the new year So do black people have a Passover as well for that reason? I don't know They should it's a thing to celebrate but like also White guilt would be off the charts that week is that and that's a bad thing. No, I think it's a great. Okay, well Let's get on that. Let's see if we can petition someone well the Jews certainly control the cola industry. So I'll see if I can talk to you right Okay, so Saturday night Saturday night. What do we got eight o'clock eight o'clock? I mean it's Saturday night slim pickens Yeah, I went with something I'd never heard of I thought I would jump in and headfirst a movie on the USA Network Canadian film a drama called alien high. Yes, so this was Saturday night on USA Network was known as Saturday night mares starting in 1985 and they went until about 1996-ish before they started making their own original programming with like weird science and duck man Yeah, so you picked the Saturday Saturday night mares movie for that night, okay And alien high is a Canadian movie from 1987. Let's let's read the description here Two teens skip lackey and Lee Ferguson Lee Ferguson who actually played Chet in the weird science. Okay television series So USA was really given him a lot of USA were big fans of Lee turkeys They were turkey maniacs. They try to figure out why their classmates are becoming model student zombies And then for no apparent reason they give you an alternate title of this movie It says also known as mind benders So that must be for people who are like, oh, I've seen mind benders. I thought I was a different. I thought this is gonna Be a different movie. Yeah, it's totally different movie or it's like alien. Hi. That doesn't sound very good mind benders Science sounds pretty all right, and then I've noticed now as people know who used to be guides, which was the the greatest television guide system that existed probably better than the internet in the back Of the TV guide it listed all the movies that we're playing that week Oh, yeah, so I flipped back here to see what they say of alien high and the star rating didn't warrant inclusion Not even in here. Whoa very bad. You'll be surprised to find that I've never seen alien high. I'm actually very surprised Yes, I mean, I was like well, I'll pick this and I don't know anything about it But certainly Ken knows everything about it. Yeah, I don't really I've never seen alien high It only gets two stars in the in the tv guide. Also, I like that they don't take accountability for who Starred this movie like that just go so yeah, I was thinking just some intern is like two two stars Yeah, I I could tell from the name it was a two star movie alien high What about galaxy high? Did you ever see that show? No galaxy high was a cartoon centering morning on cbs That was produced by robert zemeckis okay, and it was about a high school in space of aliens. It was good Was it any good? It was excellent galaxy high three star name. That's a three star name Um, I also want to say Ken didn't have any of those facts in front of him. Those facts are all inside of him Yeah, I don't have a computer next to me right now. I pull stuff up. Like you were saying earlier imdb You said the internet is not as good as tv guide This is like as close as we had to imdb so there would there would be no way to go alien high Didn't I see this and this was called mind benders? Right, right. There was nowhere to look that up except for in tv guide and if they didn't include it You would just think you were a crazy person exactly yeah, or uh, the tv guide was good for now This is at eight o'clock, but uh usa network used to show a thing called up all night Which started at 11 p.m. And showed two sometimes three movies so they were there are two and three hours So the the one that started at 1 a.m And the one that started at 3 a.m. We're always sort of hazy Yeah, and the tv guide was great because the next morning you could look it up and be like yeah I saw a movie where a leprechaun was in a girl's underpants and it's called getting lucky. Okay. Is that a real movie? That's a real movie I'm not insane. So it was a good sanity check. Um, so that's two hours. Yeah two hour block That's my prime time I mean if i'm in on a saturday may just like deciding what to watch on tv from tv guide It's not a good saturday night to begin with. Well, you're how old were you in 1990? I was five there five so so this would be now so we're we're we've time-traveled josh to 1990 2020 something year old josh right right right um so just to go what you what you passed up on when did i passed up uh parenthood okay the original parenthood tv series which is the superior parenthood tv series really okay uh you passed up family man which was a pretty awful show okay uh young writers which was a rip off of young guns so that uh didn't last very long but it did uh star uh quite a few people who moved on to do some different things um some other stuff that's of little interest uh totally hidden video which was fox's awful awful candid camera camera rip off um and uh that was at eight at eight thirty you did miss the hogan family okay but it was in the death throes of the hogan family the uh the awful years when sandy don't kid was on it the dark times uh and also golden girls at nine that's see that's that's what i would that's what i'm gonna do before okay um but you're you're believing that you would have stayed in for all two hours of alien high yeah can you not stop watching a movie well i can i can of course stop watching i could fall asleep during a movie i'm like not a weird thing about me doing this to show with you is i'm not like a big watcher of things like and i don't mean that in like a hipster i don't own a tv sense i'm like i like listen to much more than i watch like you're not a peeping tom you just not to listen to your neighbors i just yeah showers you don't want to watch honestly i would prefer it if i had the choice if you're like do you want to watch your neighbor's make love or do you want to listen i'd be like watch my neighbors aren't attractive but they probably sound kind of sexy so you so you're you're a snob about your own imagination yeah you think you're better visually than people are able to actually produce correct all right so you're kind of a dick yeah oh yeah i'm a miserable person yeah no so you'd rather listen to things probably so you can do other things i like to do i like to listen to things when i'm driving i like to like the podcast in general are like a great thing for me because they let me absorb things through my ears without and i can keep my eyes doing whatever all right well that's a ringing endorsement for podcasts that would be if they can keep your eyes doing whatever like an old person like what's a podcast and it's like you have a problem with your eyes doing whatever and they're like yes i definitely have a problem with that um so you would have missed the golden girls but potentially you could have switched over totally after the problem the after an hour if if i had thought to do it like if i uh if i had thought you know this isn't going to be kind of want to see this through golden girls would have been where i would have yeah oh well it was a tough choice though because at nine o'clock you also had the flash which was pretty good okay they were re-airing the the two-hour uh pilot movie of the flash oh okay uh and then china beach was also on which is a pretty great show okay i don't know if you've ever seen china i haven't uh but it did have uh some dana dolani brollis action really which is probably more than you would have seen on the usa network definitely um china beach though one star name yeah but every bad name but one in emmy really it did it one in emmy it holds the record for the show that one in emmy the longest amount of time after the last episode aired really so it aired on literally the last day in the year that it would have been eligible for an Emmy and it and it's still one so it actually won the Emmy almost two years or something after the episode shown uh so that's what we have it at uh at uh eight o'clock uh also i should mention alien high sounds like a rip off of the movie zombie high which is a very similar film which i have seen which has Virginia Madison and shown fan in it okay boy are you on it uh so let's move on to ten o'clock uh what do we what do you also passed up at nine o'clock the disney channel was shown the shaggy dog but mmm what's the terrible movie so uh let's move on to ten what do we got oh i thought we were just going eight to ten oh yeah that's right so you you easyed out yeah well i was i was dipping my toes i thought saturday night stay watch a movie every i it's the only time that oh no sorry there's one other night that i did that with one thing fair enough um so usa network on saturday nyverse also went from ten to eleven they would show Alfred Hitchcock presents and uh a couple other things at ten o'clock really speaking to Cheryl and friend Twin Peaks was on so i would recommend i could have stuck around for that you could have stuck around Twin Peaks all right let's move on to saturday Twin Peaks i remember very specifically when it was airing the first time my parents were really into it and like uh i was very curious about it and they were like not for you because i was a child it's pretty terrifying yeah yeah it's a great show have you rewatched it's i've only watched a little bit would always happens is i'll start watching it with like a friend and they'll just whiz by me and watch the whole thing and i'll be on like episode two so they just fast forward it no no no no like i'll watch one episode and then i'll be like great can't wait to watch more and then they'll watch all of it before i've seen second episode oh they won't wait for you no so i wouldn't call that person a friend josh well it's it's been like not the cause of many breakups but certainly an incidental activity all right so sunday night the lord's day um which i assume is uh appropriate for juice as well day uh saturday saturday saturday saturday jeez you guys the day we all watch alien i we all get together watch alien i and we can't touch any electricity um i don't know why you can touch electricity um so eight o'clock sunday in living color a day 30 really in living color so you were you in a living color fan or you want to watch the living color i was it i i was in the rears like when it was on comedy central and stuff like in the early 2000s it's not a good show some of it was pretty great i wouldn't say that you don't think so no i i i would watch it at the time it was definitely one of my least favorite sketch shows really it's all it's not the best which is weird because i liked some of the stuff keen and wanes did before um but it wasn't i i liked it i i mean i think certain sketches hold up super poorly i think it relied too much on bad impressions and uh it was it was sort of everything bad about saturday and live at the time so i was a i was a diehard americus funny stone videos person at the time so in my school that was the you took that side i would have i would have been that at the time but now i i just like can't i think youtube has killed americus funny stone videos like the whole internet is americus funny stone videos well it hasn't ruined it it's created the world we live in today right so you're saying americus funny stone videos uh shaped the present exactly i'm right okay but i'm saying now uh in the same way that like robert johnson was the the father of blues guitar let's say well he did sell a soul of the devil so technically satan is the father of blues guitar okay and like but that's not the blues that i prefer to listen to you like dad blues so like um maybe uh 45 to 55 year old man who has an office job who does rock and roll camp and one night a week he goes and plays blues that sounds like Bruce Willis i do feel like there is a middle ground between robert johnson and dad blues no there isn't but what would you what do you think it is just like uh you know just slightly like i'm i'm not a classic system on a lot of things so it's just like slightly higher five stuff and so you don't like the the crude nature of the 1930s blues records yeah it just doesn't it's it's not the sound that i would prefer say 50s bb king yeah but you don't like to watch them overhearing them i just like to watch bb play on mute because he just made so silly why are you taking the opposite of my viewpoint and making fun of it my views are so reasonable in reference to me i don't know just well we're talking about music so for oh yeah for visual things i do prefer to watch mute i do love music videos though which is very weird which is odd because in the world today they they very rarely exist i know um so so you would have gone on a living color let's let's read the description of that episode that night kim wains uh because although we don't lead with kim wains that's that's what they're leading with uh plays a daughter introducing her decidedly different bow to her family and a wedding guest lacking tact and an invitation so i'm guessing the decidedly different bow is white i don't know with a living color i'm thinking he's like retarded like i think white would have been too uh intelligence and could have could have actually made a social comment wow you're really anti-living or he could have been a flamboyantly gay stereotype that's a bad also even true or a retarded person who was flamboyantly gay that's what i think that's what i think the level of him living color is joke would have been i haven't seen it in a long time but i do like it rewatch it okay uh so let's move on to eight thirty what do you guys uh get a life sticking with fox sticking with fox uh that's a that's a rock solid choice uh what a great show i dig chris elliot who doesn't yeah and this one is is one of my favorite episodes uh chris uh played by chris elliot hopes to raise money to save a playground by setting a world record for the most stuff stacked on top of him if you call it one that's very funny jack jillan says a cameo uh very very good episode great there's nothing i could say about that uh nine p.m uh nine p.m to ten p.m first hour weekend at bernie's which i've never seen and just seen bananas do you never seen weekend at bernie i haven't so you went with cable on this one you went with weekend at bernie's i did uh now on cinnamax on cinnamax uh and at by the time that ended we would have gone we would have gone skinnamax uh only two stars for weekend at bernie so tv guide puts weekend at bernie in the sixth class is a allian high uh you'll have to come over sometime we'll watch weekend at bernie's it's actually pretty good uh has one of the weirdest sequels ever that um i was just talking about that with date for no the other night dino date i don't know super super funny uh and he he writes for the uh peat honcho but he's a great great dude and he was talking about how crazy the sequel is like that reggae music brought bernie back to life wow it's voodoo i don't know if he's see that's that's a whole can of worms or he's now confusing reggae well i might be misremembering because i haven't seen the movie everybody josh thinks reggae music is well it's voodoo but then it's like it's like reggae triggers it right yeah it's it's very disparaging about island people's that film uh so monday night back to school it's a tough day uh back to work so you really want something that's gonna uh you know take you away fresh prince so you know with the fresh prince oh yeah that's uh that's easy uh i think we're on season one of fresh prince in 1990 yeah i mean it's on the cover as like the new crop of high school kid shows and this particular episode uh when the police apprehend carlton and will played by alfonso rabero of course smith on suspicion of car theft carlton's social standing and bellaire address are no help in getting them out of a sticky legal jam that's all too familiar to will of course so again much more socially conscious than in living color uh one thing you passed actually two things you messed up uh the uncle buck tv series was that good uh i enjoyed it it was done by timo donnell who was a writer on uh growing pains and then moved on to create uh co-create uh just the ten of us which is one of my favorite shows um and start kevin meany boston comedian oh i do mean and the uncle buck role um and you also passed up mcgyver which was kind of in its death throes at that time but here's the mcgyver episode that you passed up uh in africa mcgyver tries to yeah yeah you hadn't yet mcgyver in africa which sounds like an in living color sketch yes if they could write sketches yeah it would of course black giver right uh tries to help the wildest of the colton brothers nail a poacher who's butchering endangered black rhinos you know what i'm switching it because from nine thirty eight thirty to nine all i had was the second half of murder she wrote but because i didn't realize murder she wrote was on every night yeah that that's on every night so i'm going to switch and take black giver uh from eight to nine wow so you're going no uh no fresh prince i'll be on the black iron yeah all right fair enough fair enough uh so we move on so you pick something at eight thirty but you're overriding it now yeah what it what had you picked at eight thirty the second half of murder you're up oh that's right you you just said that and i didn't listen uh so at nine o'clock what do we got murphy brown classic uh very good show uh murphy brown is an excellent episode that night the murphy brown designing women power hour was fantastic uh the first hour nineteen ninety was too late but new heart was on before that which is in kate nally which were two of my favorite shows i was a die-hard monday cbs person uh so murphy brown that night it's strike two for fyi when murphy and the team uh out on the picket lines forcing miles to toss murphy's big interview to brainless pitch hater anchor miller redfield doesn't sound like the most fascinating episode but that's solid show that's never on instantication now and i think about that see it i think it's on netflix some of it something just probably on netflix yeah murphy brown though is one of those shows that i remember and i remember watching it a little bit right it was a little older it was it was like a little over my head my mom really liked it so i'd watch it with my mom but it's one that's not like fresh principal air is like comfort food right tv where it's like it doesn't matter like carleton is gonna be like i can't believe i'm being arrested i do want to dance yeah uh but murphy brown i feel like i would see it kind of with fresher eyes and i would not fresher it's not fresher for the fresh eyes of where was murphy brown was it murphy don't do you see it do you see um the the interesting that murphy brown too was that for those of us who grew up with canvas berg and knowing her from that it's weird to see her when she was younger and she was really hot super hot she was a very attractive middle-aged woman on murphy brown yeah but she was kind of ball she wasn't right she wasn't like hot she was but she was like very she had kind of like a lovely stately attractiveness to her on murphy brown okay all right also that's but that's the kind of woman for uh not to take get too far off an attention that's the kind of this whole show is attention that i get really attracted to in pop culture like i i realized like two weeks ago that basically the type of woman i'm attracted to is julian morris character from the big lobowski okay so you're like viking helmets like kind of just like a sexy somewhat aloof intensely feminist uh person with friends i hate if you ever seen short cuts the robert altman movie i have not she uh she irons in that film with no bottoms on but doesn't show boobs but full frontal bottom full frontal bottom that is rarer very rare very rare uh you might even say super fucking rare uh what you did miss it eight o'clock okay it's a tv movie or nine o'clock uh well this oh sorry for next ten uh a four star tv movie that gets a close-up in the tv guide uh starring ferra faucet called the burning bed uh ferra's fiery performance keeps this tv movie about domestic violence explosive yeah maybe in 1990 before every tv movie was what domestic violence you do not want to see that so nine thirty you don't have a ton of choices i went with a half hour of wwf wrestling really so you you didn't do designing women i didn't um i am not a big wrestling watcher but my roommates all are and i've been watching a little bit with them and i feel like it would be fun to go back and like watch a little bit from that era because i i know i never watched back i can hook you up i used to go back then um i was in a wrestling before i uh went pubic and uh around that time i went to one at the boston garden and there was a restaurant time called ravishing rick root yeah i know excuse me and uh i left early because i was having a panic attack because i am a mental case and uh it was little and didn't like crowds but when i was leaving rick root was also leaving and a kid in a wheelchair wheeled up to him and asked for his autograph and ravishing rick root said the following get out of my way retard or i'll kick you down the stairs that is so rude yeah well he was living up to his name yeah i don't know how ravishing he looked in that moment but he was certainly rude his mustache was pretty oily okay uh all right so tuesday over sixteenth nineteen ninety what do you got it eight i've got twenty one jump street from eight to nine wow so you went on twenty jump street i would have thought you would have gone with who's the boss yeah you weren't a fan i see i hate tony danza and i still watch that show okay but you wanted the drama and the action i didn't have much drama and action in my uh in this week so far so i gotta mix it up mix it up so have you seen twenty one jump street no you've never seen twenty one jump street and did you see the movie no good i heard it was pretty good no it isn't uh the show was pretty interesting now uh so this particular episode uh rookie mac mccan uh gets involved in the school buddy system to investigate the murder of a mentally handicapped youth's original partner in the program so this is about uh retarded retardations come up quite a bit in this episode yeah uh so this is a handicapped kid who has a buddy so they murder a handicapped child no no his original buddy was murdered oh you're correct you're correct so the the developmentally disabled i think is the word we're supposed to say that we're supposed to developmentally disabled uh youth youth his former buddy was murdered send out his new buddy is a cop i first of all this should be a movie uh an unrelated twenty one jump street movie just a move this is a movie man this is a big blockbuster but also do you i don't remember this episode but do you think that the uh developmentally disabled child was a suspect in the murder i think you did it do you think you did it yeah we might have to pull this one out i do have i do own twenty one jumps in the entire series i might have to pull this one out revisit because i don't remember but but good call uh i was a little little skeptical until i read the description of that that's pretty ace uh you also missed head of the class at eight thirty yeah somewhere they go to Paris uh so nine o'clock rosanne no question has to be with us at rosanne one of the best it comes of all time it's another one i'm super unschooled in but i were oh man i know that it's wonderful and uh another tangent anecdote rosanne bar retweeted something i tweeted like three days ago what is that the first time she's ever done that yeah she doesn't even follow me on twitter what was the i had tweeted um and this is another super jewish thing but i just tweeted oy vey yeah she was like on it uh no it was um i said you all might think jews are just regular white people or you all act like jews are just regular white people but wait until one runs for president and the it's it's a thing i really think which is like you got political on that sometimes i do uh but i really think i probably phrased it slightly funnier but it's like no it it kind of uh there's this idea especially among like progressive people who who kind of jewish people are the the most recent white people right and jewish people get lumped in with white people by like progressives but i feel like people to whom the definition white people is very important do not include jews but jews and jews jews jews jews jews jews jews are jews not quite a race it's a religion you're right and a lot of so some of them might be white people totally but i i think that the cultural divide is such that like you're you are a Caucasian person if you do it yes you but also me okay um but there's a cultural divide thus or such that um people still hate jews i guess they do i've never really met anyone that hated jews but i'm also out there oh i believe that they're out there i'm not a denier of of hateful people also what you uh are you familiar with progressive soups yes i now that progressive has become sort of like a dirty word amongst people who listen to radio that's all ads for boner pills yep um i wonder if when they see that in the supermarket they get like angry about it like oh we used our candles and now this progressive soup it's probably free for spanish people it's probably got chorizo in it all right so that's where you went with rosane great blue color sitcom yeah the last great blue color sitcom and this episode and ultimate him from gary is the last thing jackie needs while she's laid up in the hospital with an on-the-job injury um that threatens to end her law enforcement career this is that's very blue collar very blue collar uh fine show you didn't really miss much up against that you had star trek the next generation i do love star trek the next generation i never gonna do right i've come around to sci-fi but as an adult but i never liked it as a kid i'm not a big sci-fi person i picked one sci-fi show and i picked rosane over star trek uh regretfully missing star trek but uh knowing the importance of rosane right i would have watched at that time there was a show called beyond tomorrow which was uh a science reality magazine show from australia it was on the discovery channel it's about things in the future and this particular episode was about crocodile farming and robot assisted surgery nice would have loved it i'm gonna do it 930 i'm guessing you went with coach i did not a lot going on at 930 yeah i hated that show i used to watch it i used to watch it uh because it was just on and there was nothing really else on at that time totally it's uh it's not good no craic t nelson used to be a stand-up and a terrible one at that really yep really bad his pictures in the law i think in the comedy store uh you see it up there but he was great in poltergeist and i always thought uh joe bath williams could have done better than him she was i believe she's from boston i didn't know she was on a show on wcvb channel five called jabber walkie was a 70s kid show he's been on like five in the morning when i was kid that sounds like a racist new england's jabber walkie couple of jabber walkies got this job yeah exactly um now we have uh apm wednesday but i have to point out to josh that uh well first of all what did what did you pick one of yours one of yours uh at nine o'clock there's a tv movie called opposites attracted on some barber eden and john forsight and the two-page spread they have is fantastic they're both in a bathtub on the phone uh what a small game but uh so you went with the one of yours yeah i assume you watched at the time it's a great show yeah um and this episode kevin achieves teen heartthrob status with his most ardent fan paul's awkward little sister who like synderella yearns to be swept off her feet by a handsome prince at her ball this is probably the best writing in tv guide that we've witnessed a little editorialized all of a sudden like why is why is he got synderella into this i think we understand how it works i don't think he needs to be like all right so she uh she yearns to be swept off her feet by a handsome prince i don't understand give me an allegory what is that like yeah so wednesday's i had a real dilemma because wonder years was opposite unsolved mysteries which i was big i had second half of unsolved mysteries okay 30 and i used to tape unsolved mysteries so i could watch wonder years uh now this unsolved mysteries is a pretty good one okay uh reports on the search for nazi treasures buried in the austrian swiss border the disappearance of a movie producer's adult son in beverly hills his adult son may have been carlton and may have been arrested uh the search for an escaped convict and the disappearance of a boat and crew headed for haiti nice terrifying show really terrifying some of it was terrifying but like every few episodes you'd get one that was just laughable like i remember one all of them yeah there was one where it was just about a guy who would walk into jewellery stores ask to look at an item of jewellery and then just leave with it my uncle it sounds like people i'm related to uh no my uncle owned a jewellery store i don't think he robbed them uh but has there been a you know about the hip hop yeah uh as a jew um that's whatever there's ever been a rapper that used the unsolved mysteries theme song as a sample i want to say camron has but i i that's just like a feeling he samples a bunch of hilarious stuff like that um uh he sampled the golden girl's theme song he sampled i think nba on nbc okay um hang time uh so here's where i have a problem with you though cup eight 30 by watching the second half of ensemble mysteries you forsaken growing pains that's true are you not a fan of growing pains not a big fan that's a shame i mean this was not in their finest hour okay 1990 but uh this is a school parents night episode it's it's pretty good stinky solvent uh has a has a prominent role of that episode you've you've missed out but i will i will say wednesday is a difficult night yeah difficult night hard choices for all of us nine p.m nine p.m uh seltics round table on the sports channel seltics round table so you're a sports fan i am a sports fan and i think this was like kind of an interesting time larry bird was still playing it was towards the twilight of his career um so that i think that would be an interesting thing to see what because this is october this would be october nineteen ninety so that would be like two weeks before the season started right and so i'm interested it's also uh so i would have liked to have seen what they were projecting for the nineteen ninety ninety one seltics so i hate sports uh and everyone that plays them in the likes them no i'm not that far but i never really into sports i did uh sometimes enjoy watching a basketball game and at this time krik remember on the seltics were terrible i think it was just before they got terrible because bird was playing this might have been mccales last season i would have to look that up kevin kevin okay not jul not jul never played for it was never a boston seltica only kevin kevin we should set a rumor that he's related to kevin i think he gets that a lot does he yeah i'm behind the curve but when i was in a teenager in the 90s uh we used to be able to go to seltics games for free or for almost nothing that's crazy nobody went they were so bad i think they might i don't remember if they did away with this when they were really good in like 2008 2009 2010 but they had ten dollar tickets up until like the late 2000s oh yeah and what we used to do is you'd go and if it was like 15 minutes into the game they just let you in yeah and uh one time i hit spud web with a tennis ball why did you have a tennis ball i found one in my pocket and i i used to have poor impulse control and i was sitting like courtside and i just whipped it onto the court did you get thrown out no that's how bad the games were i don't even think i even noticed it people cheered it hit him in the butt um so it's also but while we're on sports this was the week of the world series when the uh i looked it up because i was like what world series was this right and it was um Cincinnati Reds Oakland A's and the A's had i think Conseco and my Jose Conseco Mark McGuire were playing for them here's why they would have lost they had recently just lost MC Hammer as a bad boy do you lost him because his hip-hop career was taken on the road too much yes this was yeah this was like right when he was breaking isn't it the height of hammer mania not quite when he had his cartoon hammerman but his magic shoes but uh wow so the world series was that week um who weren't the Reds they swept they were uh they were big underdogs so they became the best team in the world in a game that no one not from America and Canada plays correct okay well now more people from other places play it Japan Japan and like Latin America but they don't play like a Cuban team no they don't they don't play like the best Cuban team but that's because somebody of the best Cuban and Japanese players come here it's probably also because people in North America uh define the world as North America yes absolutely um so you missed out on Dookie Houser which is a good call because that's a terrible show I really hate Neil Patrick Harris really I don't know where everyone loves him he's really not funny um oh he can sing whatever yeah I hate him I find him charming mug prick he's a smug prick I don't mind a smug prick now and again though well I'm gonna pull that quote out uh uh context and have that everywhere Josh Kahneman doesn't mind a smug prick every now and again also Vinny from uh from Dookie Houser and later the Sopranos is from Boston so you went uh sports around table that go nine to ten nine to ten nine to ten all right so on to Thursday night Thursday was the the other night I took this is the other night I just saw this thing on the schedule and I was like slam dunk but it's not probably not good but that's why I chose it okay uh it's a show on the family channel oh called very long watch stand up comics take a stand yes two hour special two hour special I mean so here's the here's the uh the description a comedy competition taped in Los Angeles features eight new comics this just described every show I don't go to in Boston oh yeah but somehow is on the family channel so you know it family channel really bad comics I'm sure super clean 1990 who would have been on it I'm thinking you would have had a gucci guy that could be uh you probably would have had no names I can't even think of any I bet there I bet there was somebody that was that like doesn't even remember they did it like someone not Dave Koolier but like like Dave Koolier you know what I mean someone really clean that was Josh there's nobody like Dave Koolier but do you know yeah this is a clean uh clean the job done right but a guy that like later went on to be mega successful and you don't think of him first as a comic caratop or it's someone like yeah someone who had a really like maybe Ray Romano was honest do you know what I mean oh you're giving this quite a bit of credit because Ray Romano is huge it was a great comic yeah but I think I think there might have been someone great and then a bunch of nobodies okay that's my guess all right and I I hate sitting through bad comedy when I like have to be in the room with it but I love sometimes bad comedy uh when I choose to watch it that's how I feel about sex um so I don't really I that was just an easy joke I would have at this time gone back to the Discovery Channel well okay big fan of the time and watch Arthur C Clark's mysterious world uh and that episode was an investigation of the possibility that ancient civilizations used advanced technologies that sounds kind of boring wow it was pretty exciting I like the alligators and the other thing better from the other but also I passed up the Cosby show yes and you passed up grand which was a favorite show of mine I don't know anything about it very very good show Michael McKee and Bonnie Hunt who was my favorite John Goodman was in that actual episode as well uh very very good show lasted two seasons uh very a little love for it these days but it's really well written show one of the Murray brothers was on it uh check it out which Murray brother Joel I didn't even know that was a Murray but Joel Murray from uh one crazy song oh got it yep uh you also passed up cheers I did pass up cheer well wait well it's cheers on cheers was on 9 p.m all right I jumped in because I saw it was in syndicated syndicated at like 7 30 roast nights but I passed over it because I had to take this uh passed up Cosby show different world and I watched different world back in my different worlds a great show uh jasmine guy also from Boston um you passed up the fantastic fox sitcom babes about fat women ooh never seen that it was about four fat women that lived in a house together it was like friends if it was only women and they're huge fat women ooh this sounds like uh like it sounds like it aged even the worst out of anything from like if we watched it it would just be like puking from how Rick uh Rick Overton was in it I like Rick Overton's a good guy he's a good guy very funny uh in a terrible show also it's the only show I can think of with an ironic insulting title to the stars of the show yeah oh these are some real babes all right you're gonna be in a show called babes and you're a fat pig yeah how much you want per episode uh so that's Thursday and I passed up cheers passed up some some classic stuff uh that's normally on in that time and yeah but I can still find that I can't find stand-up comics take a stand anyway that's true that's true so finally the last day in the week we're we're taken to to Friday night this one actually I was not expecting to be excited about Friday night television TGIF true was that at this era yes it started in 88 wow what did I what did I pass up on TGIF and I'm passed up full house yeah full house stunk yeah well you just talk about how great dave kulier is you didn't say that did you think it's known because it didn't feature dave kulier and not enough kulier cut him in yeah what's hottier do you ever think that at the time uh there was like uh oh I don't know if there were women's magazines like a equivalent of maxim and it had like a photo spread of dave kulier and it said hottier that definitely didn't happen like just a hockey jersey just like like kind of like co-catishly looking at camera right well we should make that happen at some point also the movie creep show was on you missed that oh friday night which is a great movie I'm not a horror guy but I would be interested to see that you should be uh so what'd you pick quantum leap eight to nine okay all right I feel uh a warm nostalgia for quantum leap it's a good show when I was a kid the first time I ever saw it was probably 91 or 92 okay and I had broken my wrist at summer camp fractured it just a little and I couldn't sleep because my doc how'd you break it we're playing a game called volleyball where you it's a baseball but with a volleyball is that a jewish thing yeah it was a jewish camp okay it's not a jewish game um but I guess if anyone other than like spindly seven year old jews played it it would just be constant injury so uh my counselor just cracked a line drive and I was like I was not a good athlete but I was like I got this it's right toward me and I reached up to catch the ball and it was going so fast it just kind of bent my wrist back it wasn't like a gruesome injury volleyball shattered your wrist didn't shatter it just like my hand I was seven so my wrist just went back so fast it okay I was like fractured so I couldn't sleep because my the doctor we went to was like a substitute doctor to have that yeah my regular doctor was off that day and so he just had you fill out like a word jump on him he just had me watch a film stream watch a film strip and did a word search and uh so we so I couldn't sleep because they they just put me in a little splint and so putting in a cast so I keep rolling on it and I woke up and my parents are watching like quantum leap reruns uh late at night and I sat up and watched it with them what a pleasant memory a very pleasant memory um so they didn't give you a heavy duty painkillers or anything I think they gave me like children's Tylenol but it was worn off it was like the middle of the night gotcha we had a kid in uh in gym class in eighth grade this kid from Russia um when the when the Berlin Wall fell we got all the Russians here and he broke his wrist and uh I just remember him going my fist my fucking fist my fucking fist and uh kids would yell at him for about 10 years oh yeah later he ended up going to the same college as me and um he he smelled like a barn um and uh like not even a clean barn and so one day I was I used to commute because I didn't have any money and uh he sat down next to me on the train and started talking to me and then I apparently fell asleep while he was talking to me and the next thing I know it was like eight stops later and he goes did you like your fucking nap man this guy had some anger issues yeah but I mean the sociopolitical climate where he grew up it's difficult I don't blame him now um he also the same kid we uh we had to do uh extra credit posters in ninth grade first in college in college in math class and he did want any meant to write a number is divided by yeah but he wrote the word DBBB it's a number DBBB four and DBBB was a was a very popular catchphrase in our school oh man it's such a cruel that was such a cruel time we had a kid no I mean he was like a little weird um but like wasn't hurting anybody but everyone called him the white erkel nice and he I mean it really hurt him yeah because that and that's like not even major league bullying but that like the worst part was he was black we had uh I was in a punk rock as a teenager and he used to hang out at the at the rat and a bunch of punk rock clubs in the Boston area and there was a black skinhead uh who used to go to a lot of the shows and everyone used to call him erkel skin oh no but uh that sounds meaner than it is because that's exactly what he looked like if you if you combined c-worker with a skinhead you would get this gem in erkel skin I love nicknames that are almost clever yeah like there was a kid in high school and he was like uh of the kid like I don't know what he's doing now but they're like yo this kid de macco we call him uh we call him peer read fucker de macco de macco yeah and we call him peer read fucker and he went like why why he goes because he fucked a girl on a peer read what age was this like 16 17 oh it was before you realize like hey that's just what you do we had a kid named tom de petro okay who was like four years old little than us because he got help back sure and uh he went to canada uh for like a weekend or something and he came back and he goes dude can it was awesome I got a fucking rubber hammer and we were like what he goes yeah from a hookah they get this thing up there called a rubber hammer and what they do is they give you a beach when you have a rubber on as in acting like that was some sort of way cooler and uh she probably made him pay extra for that that was a rubber well it's worth the price to not get hooker mouth all over you well josh you're on the road a lot more than i am um also uh reminding me about this this volley bat game yes we play a game in our school that our teacher invented called buck buck where one kid would bend over careful and put his arms around this tree and then everyone would kind of like uh like like conga line up sort of behind them bent over and the other team kids would run and jump on their backs and then uh see how many kids they could get on before the other kids collapsed why where did he give the neighbor it sounds like gunshot noises from like a regga tone song yeah i don't know man but uh it was dangerous you also missed uh trilogy of terrors so when we're on october so there's a lot of horror movies yeah that's true uh trilogy is here is great i should have thought more so that's eight to nine what did you have nine to ten nine to ten my first one where i decidedly in flipping back and forth between two things okay uh the video music awards 1990 video music awards yama is hosted by our cineol hall i think this was i regretted that the air cineol hall show went on at ten and i was not able to choose it for any of my choices well that's terrible because the air cineol hall show is shit i know but have you seen it now no it's really it's a nonsense and uh i would like to have seen it back then uh but the vma is for sure i would love i love music videos i would love to have seen this uh and the american double dutch world champions champions wow that that's pretty good um i do have the vma's from that year which i can i can show you if you want to see them at some point uh jump probe competition taped june 22nd so you probably would have already got the result oh yeah i probably would have known um so at uh at nine o'clock you missed night court which is a favorite of mine and perfect strangers which is also a favorite of mine and on disney channel there was a lovely little halloween special called the pumpkin who couldn't smile uh so i'm doing movie awards and and switching back and forth between that and and the double dutch i think that's a good thing the double dutch you can just kind of come in and out of yeah you don't really you know do you ever done double dutch no i think i've tried once it's very difficult yeah yeah it is uh they don't it's it's pretty difficult so at nine thirty you missed full house again not regret it it was a repeat um about a cute pooch and uh you missed the ray bradbury theater on us i thought about that it's pretty good i also uh have that whole series uh ten o'clock of course is 2020 the only show my parents didn't allow me to watch but what you're learning yeah so that's the whole week you you've you've made some interesting choices i think you uh you chose wisely and some of the some of the choices and uh finally uh what i like to do is look in the tv guide and see what the cheers and jeers were for that week judge um i don't know if you're familiar with cheers and jeers it is tv guides judgment that they did every week right right uh so i want to see if you agree with these or not and that's how we'll finish up today uh cheers to an unprecedented adventure between cbs and the tokyo broadcasting system tbs how do you feel about that love it okay so you agree with the cheers yeah uh jeers to the unhealthy appetites exhibited on so many tv shows to university of minnesota researchers recently studied the food content of 11 top prime time tv series teleclass during the summer of 1988 including the cosbee show LA law cheers and growing pains their findings showed that the most conspicuously consumed items were coffee alcohol and soft drinks and that between meal snacks accounted for nearly 75 percent of what was eaten that's their jeers someone did a two-year program that that feels right though it seems like a waste of time certainly a waste of time i feel like you probably could have gotten through it in like probably you know six weeks so you're hiding your side with the jeers i i kind of agree with that josh jeers uh then we have cheers to american josh jeers it's my version of josh james josh jeers yeah just like they people listen to like track number five it's like i don't like it uh cheers i don't feel about this josh jeers which could also be like a weird josh gondam in centric version of cheers yeah uh just me in a bar yeah right serving yourself so cheers to american movie classics that used to show american movies at the time america votes campaign created to encourage voter registration i'm into voter registration so you're that you're up with your on board with that cheer and finally jeers to the twin peaks Emmy shutout hey man i'm into that too reward david lynch wow so four for four on cheers and jeers josh gondam and a tv guide completely in sync i i tv guide and i have been together so long we're on the same cycle excellent josh gondam and thank you can't thank you for having me that was josh gondam and my guest for this week's episode of tv guidance counselor you can check him out at josh gondam and dot com definitely check out his album his writing he's all over the place he's a big twitter presence so you should follow him if you don't already what you probably do because i think approximately 2.3 million people follow josh so there you have it let us know what you think of this podcast you have any questions for me you can reach me at ken and i can read dot com we're on our facebook page 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