Pod Save America - Is Winning an Election a Get-Out-of-Jail-Free Card?

Donald Trump's once-daunting legal challenges continue to melt away, as Special Counsel Jack Smith plans his resignation and Manhattan DA Alvin Bragg lays out options for putting the hush money case on indefinite pause. Dan and Melissa Murray, cohost of Strict Scrutiny, discuss all the latest, including the cultural significance of the United Healthcare shooting, the fading resistance to Trump's Cabinet nominees, and why Kimberly Guilfoyle getting the nod to be ambassador to Greece is a twist worthy of the finest reality TV.

Duration: 1h 2m
Broadcast on: 11 Dec 2024
Audio Format: other

(upbeat music) - Welcome to Pot Save America, I'm Dan Pfeiffer. - And I'm Melissa Murray. - As our listeners know well, Melissa's the co-host of our excellent legal podcast, Trix Gritney, a law professor at NYU and an MSNBC legal analyst. Melissa, it was always great to have you on Pot Save America. - Thanks for having me back, really great to be here. - Well, you're one of the smartest people I know, not just on legal issues, but on all things. And we have plenty to talk about in the legal world. And I would say, if you're very little of it is good. But let's start with the news 'cause there's a lot out there these days. Before we get into the latest with Trump and his nominees, let's talk about the United healthcare killing. This story is showing some real staying power both for predictable reasons. It's a cinematic murder with spooky clues in a mysterious anti-hero. - I believe a handsome anti-hero also should be said. I think that is a big part of it. - I was gonna leave. I mean, he seems attractive to me. I'm very comfortable saying that, but they teach the wrong I would say. - Would, yes, correct, correct. But also for less predictable ones, namely the way the story has launched a conversation about our for-profit healthcare system. John John in time, we talked about the discourse around the murder on the Tuesday pod, but that was before we knew anything about the accused killer. Do you have a take on this story and why it's become such a cultural moment? - Well, I think for all of the reasons that you all have rehearsed on the pod, healthcare sucks, healthcare sucks in this country. Obamacare was a huge step forward, but it still leaves in place, largely insurance-based system of healthcare provision, which is really difficult for lay people to navigate even in the best of circumstances. And the circumstances of this killing makes clear how many people are just absolutely bedeviled by having to deal with insurance, getting denied insurance coverage for things that they need, whether it's cancer treatment or things for their children, whether children are ill, and it's just a really inhumane system.

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