FEAR AND LOATHING IN CINEMA
Episode #105 – Just One of The Guys (1985)

In the sprawling world of film podcasts, Fear and Loathing in Cinema sets itself apart with its irreverent blend of pop culture critique, nostalgic deep-dives, and a razor-sharp, at times almost uncomfortably candid, dissection of cinematic relics that were once scorned but now, with the benefit of time, seem worthy of a second look. Hosted by a group of unpredictable yet undeniably insightful voices; Bryan Kluger, a media director with a sharp sense of irony of offensive things; Dan Moran, a lawyer who brings an often absurd legal perspective of the film industry and Kevin Costner; Preston Barta, a film critic with a taste for the heart-warmingly obscure branch of cinema; and Chelsea Nicole, a culture critic who digs into the nuances of social dynamics and horror; Fear and Loathing in Cinema Podcast thrives in that rare space between sincere analysis and gut-busting humor.
In episode #105, the crew dives headfirst into the '80s teen comedy Just One of the Guys (1985), a film that, much like its genre-mates, initially earned more eye-rolls than accolades. Yet, here they are, a group of podcasting contrarians, ready to defend this cheesy, cross-dressing, high-school farce as an underrated gem. The film, directed by Lisa Gottlieb, tells the story of a high school girl (played by Joyce Hyser) who disguises herself as a boy in order to prove to her school’s predominantly male student body that she’s a serious journalist, and, of course, hilarity and heartbreak ensues. It's the kind of film where logic takes a backseat to '80s charm, but with that, it also gives the gang plenty of fodder for witty commentary and the occasional well-timed jab.
This Week's Highlights:
Beyond the movie at hand, there’s a ton of sidetracking that we’ve come to expect from the Fear and Loathing in Cinema gang. The topics, at times more absurd than the plot of the film they’re discussing, are the lifeblood of this podcast's erratic brilliance. Here's a sneak peek into the conversation:
* Is Quentin Tarantino being a good dad or has fatherhood sent him over the edge? This tangent comes courtesy of a viral interview clip where Tarantino, in classic fashion, drops a few eccentric truths about fatherhood that make one wonder if he's as in control as his film scripts might suggest.
* Kevin Costner’s new show: a hit or a misfire? Not long ago, Costner was everyone's favorite American hero, but as Yellowstone wrapped, the podcast crew takes a long look at what comes next for the actor who’s constantly reinventing himself.
* The MCU might be casting a transgender actor? For better or worse, the MCU remains an evolving cultural juggernaut, and this week’s speculative casting choices reveal how much further it’s willing to go in representing the LGBTQ+ community.
* Blake Lively: What's going on? Chelsea Nicole, ever the pop-culture sleuth, leads the charge on dissecting the actress's recent public moments, pointing out that sometimes, the stories behind the headlines are just as interesting as the films themselves.
* Robert Eggers directing a Labyrinth prequel? This news hit like a bolt of lightning. How will the visionary behind The Witch and The Northman navigate the world of Jim Henson’s beloved puppet creatures? And why, exactly, does the thought of photographing a car make Eggers "ill"?
The crew also manages to wrangle in the ridiculous notion of Pick a Movie/Keep One Actor, the Rest Played by Muppets and if that’s not your idea of podcast gold, I don’t know what is.
Movie Analysis: "Just One of the Guys"
As they revisit Just One of the Guys, the hosts attempt to peel back the layers of this teen comedy; scrutinizing everything from the absurdity of the plot to the bizarre yet endearing performances by the cast. They dive into why Just One of the Guys has to be re-evaluated with a modern lens. Is it a film that accurately describes the turbu...
In episode #105, the crew dives headfirst into the '80s teen comedy Just One of the Guys (1985), a film that, much like its genre-mates, initially earned more eye-rolls than accolades. Yet, here they are, a group of podcasting contrarians, ready to defend this cheesy, cross-dressing, high-school farce as an underrated gem. The film, directed by Lisa Gottlieb, tells the story of a high school girl (played by Joyce Hyser) who disguises herself as a boy in order to prove to her school’s predominantly male student body that she’s a serious journalist, and, of course, hilarity and heartbreak ensues. It's the kind of film where logic takes a backseat to '80s charm, but with that, it also gives the gang plenty of fodder for witty commentary and the occasional well-timed jab.
This Week's Highlights:
Beyond the movie at hand, there’s a ton of sidetracking that we’ve come to expect from the Fear and Loathing in Cinema gang. The topics, at times more absurd than the plot of the film they’re discussing, are the lifeblood of this podcast's erratic brilliance. Here's a sneak peek into the conversation:
* Is Quentin Tarantino being a good dad or has fatherhood sent him over the edge? This tangent comes courtesy of a viral interview clip where Tarantino, in classic fashion, drops a few eccentric truths about fatherhood that make one wonder if he's as in control as his film scripts might suggest.
* Kevin Costner’s new show: a hit or a misfire? Not long ago, Costner was everyone's favorite American hero, but as Yellowstone wrapped, the podcast crew takes a long look at what comes next for the actor who’s constantly reinventing himself.
* The MCU might be casting a transgender actor? For better or worse, the MCU remains an evolving cultural juggernaut, and this week’s speculative casting choices reveal how much further it’s willing to go in representing the LGBTQ+ community.
* Blake Lively: What's going on? Chelsea Nicole, ever the pop-culture sleuth, leads the charge on dissecting the actress's recent public moments, pointing out that sometimes, the stories behind the headlines are just as interesting as the films themselves.
* Robert Eggers directing a Labyrinth prequel? This news hit like a bolt of lightning. How will the visionary behind The Witch and The Northman navigate the world of Jim Henson’s beloved puppet creatures? And why, exactly, does the thought of photographing a car make Eggers "ill"?
The crew also manages to wrangle in the ridiculous notion of Pick a Movie/Keep One Actor, the Rest Played by Muppets and if that’s not your idea of podcast gold, I don’t know what is.
Movie Analysis: "Just One of the Guys"
As they revisit Just One of the Guys, the hosts attempt to peel back the layers of this teen comedy; scrutinizing everything from the absurdity of the plot to the bizarre yet endearing performances by the cast. They dive into why Just One of the Guys has to be re-evaluated with a modern lens. Is it a film that accurately describes the turbu...
- Duration:
- 1h 35m
- Broadcast on:
- 30 Jan 2025
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(upbeat music) ♪ Do look like a lady ♪ ♪ Do look like a lady ♪ ♪ Do look like a lady ♪ ♪ Do look like a lady ♪ (upbeat music) (screaming) (somber music) (upbeat music) ♪ Preston Dan and Brian ♪ ♪ Two, they've got opinions and that's cool ♪ ♪ She'll see ♪ ♪ Talking about movies that you and start sucked ♪ ♪ But now you realize they fucking rock ♪ ♪ They might feel sad ♪ ♪ Fear and nothing podcast ♪ ♪ Oh ♪ ♪ Ooh ♪ ♪ Oh ♪ ♪ Oh ♪ ♪ Ooh ♪ - Who's ready for the best movie podcast in the world? - Yes, it's "Fear and Loathing and Cinema" podcast. January 28th, whoa. Oh, yes, I'm Brian Kluger. And we are gonna have fun today at high school here on "Fear and Loathing and Cinema" podcast. Oh my goodness. I've got three amazing high schoolers that I went to high school with long ago and we are gonna have some fun. Let's introduce everybody right here. I've got a man. (upbeat music) He is the law of movies. (upbeat music) And he just loves lifting all those cafeteria tables. (upbeat music) It's Dan Moran. ♪ I'm going below and go ♪ ♪ Low one ♪ ♪ I'm going below and move ♪ ♪ Low one ♪ - All I could think about in that scene is I hope that happened to you in high school. (laughing) - That's so mean. That's so mean. - That's so mean. - Good to see you. - Good to see you. - Yeah, all right. Up next, I got another man. (upbeat music) He's got a penchant for pestering. (upbeat music) And he is the resident alien from another planet. (upbeat music) It's Preston Barta. (upbeat music) ♪ If you want this ♪ ♪ You got it ♪ - You wish my touch was the reason you went through puberty. - It is, I'm still going through puberty. Oh God, all right. Last but not least, she's a woman. (upbeat music) She's from Florida. (upbeat music) And her bedroom is covered in playboy center folds. (upbeat music) It's Chelsea Nicole. (upbeat music) ♪ Where the road, where the road, where the road ♪ ♪ Had a nigga in the truck, where the road ♪ ♪ I was gonna say, I'm drinking a playboy at breakfast ♪ ♪ Drinking a playboy at breakfast ♪ ♪ Reading a playboy at breakfast ♪ ♪ Because that's kosher now ♪ - Toxic waste, huh? - Yeah. - Yeah, it is kosher. It is kosher. If you're in a little bit of some podcast we were talking about. The main event later on, 1985's just one of the guys. We're all men today. Wanting to be women and vice versa. I'm very excited about this. You know how the show works. We take a movie that didn't get much love. We revisit it and say why it's amazing. We're gonna do a little bit of news first. The first news item today is gonna be awesome. We all got a call the other night. A phone message from one of our own Chelsea Nicole. - No, don't do that. What are you doing? - And she was heavily under the influence and it was really funny 'cause she was leaving us voice messages and she was on another planet and it was just the best funniest thing in the world 'cause she was trying to figure out what all the young kids say in high school these days just like this movie. And here you go. Here's a little, here's a little thing about it. - No. - Give it a boo-bop thing. - And I just love this just because I feel like this was very, when we were all younger and everything. It was just so good. I like that. Chelsea, how you feeling? - I feel fine. I have an even better one for you. - I'm really high, stupid and toilet. And how I would say it, if I scattered it, it's like a skiv-a-doo-boo-not-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo. - Give it a boo-boo. - So, I mean, I know we've all been under the influence before. Did anybody wanna know what like something meant that we didn't know, like skiv-a-doo-doo-toil it? - I'm sober and I wanted to learn what it meant. - Did you not know what it meant? The two of you have child's children. - I'm a child. (laughs) - I say, based on what I've learned about it since then, God, I would hate if my kids found that. It just, there's nothing like, I don't know. And not like I'm some protective, like, oh, they can't be part of that, but it's just all stupid. - Well, I'm gonna go to rotten.com like I did and learn about the real world at two young of an age. - Faces of death, let's do it. - Yeah, faces of death, come on. - I mean, we're talking about a movie that like, where people with the high school and they're using like, rad, cool type of lingo, and nowadays it's like, what is it? Like, riz, mid, and skiv-a-dee toilet, which means like, you're an idiot, I guess, but the meaning behind it or where it came from is even more hilarious. I mean, Preston does row talk like this one. - Dude, we are in complete control of his education and who he hangs around. So, he ain't learning any of that shit. He knows rad. - Rad. - 'Cause I use it. - The skiv-a-dee toilet. - Yeah, what about Dan? What about your kids? - No, I'm like, they go, no. It has not reached our world and I pray that it doesn't because I looked it up and it's just really stupid. - Yeah. - Like there's nothing, I've seen plenty of stupid stuff that my kids like where I'm like, okay, it's funny or something less. This, I don't get it all. It's a head and a toilet. That says stuff and it doesn't make me laugh and I don't understand it. But maybe I'm just officially too old. - But like when you were a child, you probably said some funny stuff and that you thought was the coolest thing in the world. - Yeah, we watched like South Park. - I watched like salad fingers, okay? - Yeah, like, I'm not trying to say I was better but if you watch South Park-- - I am. - South Park was to like make a joke and say something inappropriate. So you'd be like to your friends, I'd scare you guys and like that sort of stuff. And but that was from something that the purpose was to like, I guess story telling. This just seems like a toilet that pops up and like says skippity and poops. So I don't get it. I don't get it. I'm admitting I do not get it. - I mean if something is in South Park that's gotta be it right there, really. - I think kids just have too much time on the internet. - It's YouTube. - These days. And I honestly find myself very thankful that I only had stuff like AOL chat in my space to like fuck around with. - Yeah. - So. - Well, thank you Chelsea for providing some very needed entertainment the other night. That was pretty amazing. - You're welcome. - You're welcome. Let's move on to some news. I can't wait to talk about this one. Here's a question. This goes into news is Quinn Tarantino being a good dad or is he becoming crazier right now? Because he was in an interview with film festival right now going on and he said that, well, he doesn't need to make any more movies at the moment because he's being a good dad. He lives in Israel and he is an Abba which is Yiddish and Hebrew for father. And he says that, well, maybe he might not make a movie next. He might make a stage play and then turn that into a movie. So, being a good dad, do you wanna see a Quinn Tarantino play on stage or do you just want him to see movies? Like, where is the line here? It's like, just make movies. We like his movies, right? - He's a good storyteller, but I also believe that somebody has, they can totally be a dad. I think Tom Holland, though he's not a dad, he's just engaged. Like he said that he has no problem stepping away entirely and just, Rick Moranis did it. And yeah, we missed his work, but man, you gotta respect the hell out of him for being able to just step away from the noise and be able to make things. There's still so many great filmmakers and storytellers making great things. I don't, I think I could live without another Tarantino thing, but I would love to see more of it, but I'm okay. So let him do what he wants. - I saw in that article, it said he wants to, he doesn't wanna do anything right now because he wants to bring his kid on set and have him right, have memories of, and right now he's too little. So he wants that experience with his son. - I agree. - If I was him, I'd want that too. That's like the coolest thing ever. - Anytime you can have a four-year-old around Samuel L. Jackson, endless amounts of blood, racial slurs, and the worst language known to man, you've got to instill that in the child early. - That's five and over when they can understand it. - I like that idea. Dan, would you bring your children to the insurance law world? - No, they be bored to tears. Are you kidding me? That seems like a punishment. (laughs) No, I get what he's saying, but it also sounds like boring. - But like in the last few years, I mean, it's always a big event for Quentin Tarantino to make movies, and he's like, I'm making my 10th movie. It'll be my final movie. It's gonna be called the film critic, or no, it's not. And then it just keeps going. And then now he says, well, maybe I'll make a stage play. And then maybe I'll take the stage play and turn it into a movie. I mean, I don't know, it's... - Right, stage plays and books. He's fine? Okay. - Yeah, he's fine. - So everybody's happy if he doesn't make another movie with Once Upon a Time in Hollywood being his final one. - That's not what I said. - He will make another movie. That's why I'm not one. - He will make another movie. And I think it would be fun to see through dad glasses. - Okay, so do you think him being a dad would bring his tone down a little bit? - No. - No, but I think it makes him reflect on different things. - Okay. - Probably. I would like to see if it does change him. - Okay. No, I'm curious. All right, Quentin Tarantino, we'll see. Quentin Tarantino. - Wait, wait, Brian, I feel like we blow through a lot of these news items and we rarely get to hear what you have to say. So what is your perspective on that? - Oh, well, thank you for asking. I, when I look at film directors and I look at all of this, I think I look at Spielberg. I look at all these people who are fathers, like even our guy on my Blake podcast, Francis Gallupi, he's making movies, he's enjoying, he's being a dad and he's making movies. Why does Tarantino feel the need to just like not do it? So many people are family people and dads and moms and they're making movies and we want more movies from him. Out of everybody sent for the last, what, 35 years, Tarantino's made some of the best movies that we can remember. Why hasn't he made more? Let's keep making it. - But that's it right there. You said it while you're saying all that. I mean, we talk about stuff like Francis who has kids and Quentin who has, who is a father now. Quentin has been in the industry for 30 something years. Francis is just getting his mojo, like getting hit, you know, he can't, with newer filmmakers, they don't have the luxury to kind of just take a year off. - Okay. - That and I think as we've said before, I believe, Tarantino is very idealistic. He's so precious of his filmography, his legendary status of who he will be remembered as and like what his collective work is and everything that I feel like he probably even feels that way obviously as a father that he wants to hold everything and make it sure that it's absolutely perfect and precious and lives up to his dreams. - Okay. - And he will work incredibly hard to make sure that happens. - I mean, do you think it'll be like a situation where his kid is like, this is my favorite show or my favorite story? - He wants, yeah, he wants his kid to lean and whisper in his ear just like the girl and wants a lot of time in Hollywood. This is the best movie I've ever seen. Maybe so. I don't know. I mean, I also look at Kevin Smith who put his family in movies and works around that. I guess I'm selfish. I want Tarantino to make more things and not just wait around for it. Considering what he's-- - Do you think seeing a dad is just waiting around though? - I mean, if you're talking about all the time making movies all the time and oh no, I'm not gonna make this movie or no, yeah, I'm gonna make Star Trek. There's one time he's like, I wrote a Star Trek script. We never got it. So, I don't know. He teases us and then he's like, no, I might make a stage play. Tarantino's the whale on stage. I don't know. I would, I don't know. I want Tarantino to make more stuff. I don't want him to wait. So that's me. - I could see him in his Twilight ears or on his deathbed just releasing a massive catalog of things that he had planned to do. - Yeah. - And we get to read it. - Yeah, pissed off. Scorsese never took a year off for children. So I'm just saying, come on, Tarantino. That's what I think. All right. - I think you should let people have the grace they need to to live their lives, whether they're in the public eye or not. - Well, I agree with that. They can, but when Tarantino is constantly saying he's out of these ideas, he's going to make a movie and then he does it and then he says he's not. - Okay, but that's just a man. - Like eight years now from the start, something else? I mean, that's a long time. - Okay. - All right. - I didn't like it. - Dance monkey dance. - Yes, absolutely. - Fun. - Absolutely. - All right, this next piece is for Dan, it's our annual, our annual, our weekly Dan Kevin Costner segment. Kevin Costner, our annual, our weekly. We were watching the football and the TV, Dan and I were enjoying it. We saw a trailer for a Kevin Costner new show. Dan, what is this? What is, what did you call your voice? - Which one is this? - This is like what is funny. - Yeah. - I mean, Kevin Costner made a reference. - Oh, definitely weren't you intimately woven into this show? - Oh, yes, this is when Kevin and I spent the week in Yellowstone and Yosemite exploring, exploring the beautiful mountains of our country. - Any bodies? - Yes. - And each other's bodies. It was a very broke back mountain, national parks exploration. - So was this like a, - Yes, that is. - Like a National Geographic Yellowstone with Kevin Costner? - Yes, it is. And for some reason, it's on Fox Business Channel, which I think is interesting 'cause Tom Hanks is, Tom Hanks has something called America. And it's starting after the Super Bowl on NBC, like it starts in mid February and it's just him narrating stuff. But Kevin Costner's on Fox Business just traipsed and threw a national park. - Are you excited? - I mean, I feel like there's a Kevin Costner Renaissance at the moment and he's everywhere. - A self-made one. - That's the costner songs. - The costner songs. - Listen, I just, I looked into whether or not I could fly out to that movie festival to see Horizon Part II as I think, as I think I'm one of only 17 people in the world who genuinely wants to see it. - I guarantee that's the Santa Barbara Film Festival, which is actually a really good film festival. And that would be, and they're doing like a two for their showing Part I. And then they're gonna do the premiere of Part II right after that. - I promise, I promise the listeners this. If AMC or Regal or Cinemark does a marathon of Part I and II when Part II finally comes out, I will spend seven and a half hours in the movie theater drinking. Indiana Jones is golden margarita tea or whatever that AMC drink is, just getting hammered and exploring the Wild West. I promise all of you, I will do that. And I will live Instagram at the whole time. (laughing) - 'Cause I will be. - I will be wearing my T-shirt. - I will be wearing my cowboy hat. I will be sitting there, probably the only one in the theater watching that. - I think it'll be good. Do you think Horizon Part II will be the Empire Strikes Back of this horizon trilogy? - I mean, obviously. They've been really setting that up, laying a lot of the groundwork. Kevin Costner's gonna find out that the whore who he helped rescue was actually his sister. - Yikes. (laughing) - You please. - His hand's a whore. - She's gonna be missing. - She's a self-proclaimed whore. I'm not being mean. She's a whore. - All right. - She's a sex worker. - Yes, oh, I'm so sorry. Hey, it's a sex worker. - We love the-- - And the old West. - Well, West sex worker. - We called them hookers back where I came from. - That's good. - And they were okay with it. - Yeah. (laughing) - Do you recommend Horizon to everybody? Dan? - Only if you like what? Only if you like Westerns and you have too much time on your hands. - So no. (laughing) But it's like, here's the deal. People will be like, oh, I watched all six episodes of American Prime Evil, that's six hours. And I'm like, well, Horizon Part One is three hours and like two hours of it are good. (laughing) So you could have gotten, you could have gotten done quicker there. - You're like, the dirt's aren't bad. - You're like, the dirt's aren't bad. - So for gray span is it? - Oh yeah. - That's true. - Pretty funny. No, I would like to see this TV show of Kevin Costner walking around Yellowstone saying what he likes about it. - I will say this as we try not to delve too deep into politics here. I will say my biggest concern with the Costner's thoughts is when he gets named alongside Mel Gibson and whoever the other one is, I'm assuming Joseph Goebbels to help bring back Hollywood and by Donald Trump, I do have a little concern about where Kevin's future is going. - Ian Zachary Levi are going straight to the top. - That's, I'm like, he's so much more. It's always Sylvester Stallone. It's Stallone and Gibson, which I put over on one side and then Costner, who now I have to push over towards that side and it makes me sad in my heart because I think that Kevin Costner is still a very talented actor and director. Whether you vibe with his stuff or not, I think he still has an eye for it and I think he's still a talented person whereas the other two are washed up, completely washed up and you know what you're getting if you see them headlining any movie poster. - No. - No, I'm sad about it. - I could see that nature show adding a lot of eagle sound effects. - Oh, hell yeah, we only got eagles in here in America. - That's why I'm so confused, Kevin Costner since he moved to like actual Yellowstone and decided I'm just gonna film this TV show and then he said, you know what? I'm gonna mortgage all my properties 'cause I love land so much and what America is and like the national parks. And now he's like doing a show about the national parks while the person who has now appointed him like Hollywood czar has rolled back all protections for national parks. So I'm like, what are we doing here, Kevin? - We got no federal grants. We got no federal funding anymore. - I'm like, Kevin, how much influence do you have? 'Cause the national parks are beautiful. Like does, is that's the only way? Maybe Kevin's ahead of the curve where he's like, I know the only way to get Trump to care about it. I'll put it on a big screen at the White House. So maybe he, maybe it's a good idea. But I'm nervous about my costner fandom. I'm very nervous about it. - There's a lot of world that's about climate change. - Oh shit. (laughing) There you go. There's the weekly Dan Kevin Costner love affair. Let's move on to Robert Eggers. Robert Eggers has been in the news. So many filmmakers and actors have been in the news 'cause it's award season. Two things with Robert Eggers. Robert Eggers is set to write, maybe produce and direct a prequel to Labyrinth, the David Bowie, Jennifer Conley. - What? - It's a sequel. - It's a sequel. - Oh, it's a sequel. - It's a sequel. - Jennifer Conley's gonna be in it. - Yes, and also he was being interviewed and he said he never wants to make a modern day movie and I quote him, "The idea of photographing a car makes me ill." So two things about that. (laughing) - A prank quote. - It's so fucking funny to me. People are crazy. But one, let's talk about Labyrinth. Will Robert Eggers' Labyrinth sequel be the worst movie he has made? - Yes. - Yes, why? - 'Cause I don't care about it at all and I wish that he would make. I wish he would stick to making good stuff. Like I love, I do not want to see him do this. I have no desire to see him do this. I don't care about Labyrinth. No one in America cares about Labyrinth enough. - One Brian. - I was just gonna say Labyrinth is a cult classic. Yeah, but it's, okay, cool. So was Beetlejuice in a sense and they brought Beetlejuice, Beetlejuice, and like no one saw it. So like there's an even smaller audience for Labyrinth. So I'm like, come on. Robert Eggers go make something original. Like right now he has such a good mind for original stuff that unless he truly just loves this or this is how he's gonna get his next weird shit funded by doing this movie with a bigger studio, I just want him, I want him to keep doing what he's doing. Like the "Wearwolf" movie? - Yeah. - Right? I agree. - Like stick with your-- - Very excited. - Stick with your weird stuff. - Right, but what do you think about? What do you think about Labyrinth? Preston Chelsea and Robert Eggers. - Yeah, you dorks. What do you think about that? - Yeah. (laughs) - I think I'm okay with, if we're okay with Sidney Sweeney doing movies on existing IPs and stuff to get other things funded. I think I'm okay with Robert Eggers doing this. - I just hope that's what it is. - I also think Robert Eggers has a kind of very funny kick to him. I think Nosferatu has some very funny beats in it and his other stuff has some very kind of absurdly funny stuff. So I think putting that with, I know he's working with like the Henson crew and everything for that. - I think it could be good. - I mean, Labyrinth is a musical. Is Robert Eggers gonna make a musical right of musical? - I don't know. I kind of just wanna see what he comes up with. I'm not gonna, I don't really wanna judge it right now 'cause I don't know what it is. - Anything that gets Jennifer Connolly back in the movies, I'm pro. - Yeah. - Pro, pro that. Preston, when Robert Eggers says something as hilarious as photographing a vehicle makes me ill. Do you just not laugh at that crazy shit or is it? - I laugh but I also respect it 'cause I felt, David Robert Mitchell said the same thing about, I believe shooting cell phones even though he had that awesome cell phone thing and it follows. Some filmmaker said something about maybe it was even Greta Jurwig, maybe he said something too but she's also shot stuff in modern day too. But I don't know, there's filmmakers that I guess are just as idealistic as Quentin Tarantino but I'm okay with it. I think he would make a good Labyrinth movie. He's a good filmmaker and Tim Burton was great in his heyday, hasn't had the best track record in the past 30 plus years. And so I trust that he would make something good. Would I like to see something else? Absolutely. I would love to see filmmakers continue to make original content. But I also understand this desire to want to make things or continue stories that are fantasies that have existed in your head since childhood and I'm sure Labyrinth was a big influence on him as a filmmaker and I know he would make it absolutely weird and awesome. So more power to him. Who do you, if you had to right now replace Jareth the Goblin King? Will him to fell. There you go. There it is. That's how it'll be. All right, all right. I just like when people say crazy things just like Tarantino also said yesterday, I think that what the fuck is a movie right now? He doesn't believe movies that are on streaming services or anything are real movies. He just, he's like. Well, that's just like an outdated old man shit. That's old man. Yeah, he's not in the real world right now. Yeah. Well, speaking of not being in the real world, somebody else who said something really funny that was brought to our attention, I think by Dan, was the award winning Adrian Brody, who in an interview said he compared his scene getting cut in a movie to soldiers coming home from a war with PTSD. Where's the disconnect in actors and real people right now? It's still great. That's just old school. That's just old school crazy. Every single bad thing you wanna say about actors all summed up in one quote and it's so funny to me. Like there's nothing wrong. I'm not mad at him. I'm not losing sleep. I'm legitimately just laughing that he thinks he's that important. So I wish I had that level of confidence. Right? When you hear stuff like that, do you laugh at that or do you lose respect for them or what? I laugh at that, but also when I think about things and I think about how we talk about things, I feel like sometimes people may be in a conversation and that's the way the conversation's going and so that's just kind of what his next thought is and it doesn't sound great out loud, but he's kind of thinking it more internally. I don't know. I just love it. It's a weird thing to say out loud. Yeah, no, he says, my scene was cut in a movie. I know what soldiers feel like when they come home from war with PTSD. Was from the thin red line. (laughing) Do we know for a fact that it wasn't just a smart ass thing? No, that's why I tend to laugh initially because I laugh no matter what. Even just saying it is funny. Yeah. But I also did point out that he said it from being cut from the thin red line, which apparently he was in wherever they were. Selfies, Asia, filming that movie with fucking Terrence Malek for 60-something days, only to find out his entire scenes were cut. And so I think it was a double thing going on. So I just, I think it's funny. I am not offended whatsoever. If he was dead serious, I could see how someone who actually served could be offended, but I definitely just chalk it up to actors being actors and I think we should all appreciate how absolutely that should insane all of them are at all times. We thank you for your service, Adrian Brody. (laughing) Stolen Valor. Stolen Valor Preston, anything to say about Adrian Brody? I fly a POW flag, but it's just Adrian Brody's face over my... (laughing) Just below my American flag. Preston? I don't think I have anything to add. He's just a goofy bastard and I laugh at what he says. But I laugh at people who consider themselves true artists and I'm just getting a vibe that's very equivalent to Gary Oldman's character on Friends, but Brian wouldn't know that reference 'cause he hates the show Friends, but there's a great episode where Gary Oldman is a stage actor and he does something called the spit take, but he spits on people. That's how you know that they're true actors by spitting on people and he just seemed, Adrian Brody strikes me as somebody who takes it so serious that he makes outlandish comparisons like that. - He's still banned from SNL. For that, for like the Jamaican thing that he did. - Funny, he's banned from it and now he's not gonna win Best Actor because they used AI on his accent is the big old rumor going on. - Accent, that's what it was. - Yeah, but it's like you let Timmy go on SNL and do it, but I don't know. I think it'd be funny to have him back on and make fun of himself. - Yeah, if he just does it as a different race every single Asian. - Every single, yeah. - Just call him get him canceled. - Yeah, all right, speaking of nominations, why is Amelia Perez getting so many nominations? Why? Is it bullshit? Is it deserves? - It is bullshit. - 'Cause liberals are Pussies, Brian. - Yeah, I agree. Like we mean more Kevin Costner in here. What is the deal with Amelia Perez? Well, like I don't get it. What, I mean, I guess we got some Nosferatu stuff. We got some Dune stuff. We got some substance stuff, but not enough. Like what is the deal with Amelia Perez? Is this just woke liberal Hollywood? Just like, you know, screw it all. We're giving it, even though it doesn't deserve it. Is that what it is? - If it wins, yes. - If it wins, yes. I just, I think there's such a backlash from just the Mexican community being like, hey, these are French people that made this, like we don't. - Not my Mexico. - Yeah, not my Mexico. And just like, I don't know. I just don't think it's as, you know, woke or as progressive as these people putting it out and are involved with it. I think it is, and I think it's just kind of silly trash. - All right, yeah, no, it is crazy. I mean, as somebody who enjoyed for the most part, the movie, I gave it a three out of five. It's fine. It's whatever. - He gave it even higher when it first came up. - Yeah. - Yeah, and then-- - One man, one man, two men. - But then-- - I mean, it's two men. - I'm like, I'm like, go for it for anything. - My brother. - My brother. Is that what you said? - My brother. - My sister. - My sister. - My sister, I turned her into my brother. (both laughing) - So good. - If it wins, the problem is is every single criticism by the craziest people, your craziest uncle about Hollywood being the most out of touch, woke, left wing, weirdos, I will sit back and go, yeah, you know, but-- - And it's not even, at least, it's not even about like a real trans experience. - I don't know, I'm just saying though, what they will see. - Yeah. - Mexican deportation, trans story. And I will immediately sit back and go, you know what, drunk uncle? You got a point there, buddy. You know what, you win this round. - Yeah, like it's not even about anything like actually good. - I liked more when Hollywood thought it was so woke that it could cure racism by Matt Dillon hugging someone at a car accident with Crash. (both laughing) Those are bad days. - Wait, this is a subject in a lot of like my, my different like film circles, but do you think this is a worst, best picture? Nom, then Crash? - No. - Oh, no. Wait, wait, yes. Oh, sorry, I thought you meant if it wins, this is worse than Crash. If this wins, this is a worse move than Crash, I think. - I agree. - I think Crash for how liberal and out there it is, at least there's like one or two good performances and it feels like a movie, and I can give it that, but I, and it has a sick song at the end where they cure all the racism, that montage. (both laughing) This one just has no good songs. - I see, I think that's-- - But the song that's been nominated is like the worst song. Oh, I don't even understand. - The rumors, the rumors is going around or that the reason they cut the performances of the best original songs is 'cause the songs in this movie are so terrible. - Yeah. - And I was like, then why were they nominated? You left out the Wild Robot song. - Yeah. - Which is great. - Put in penis to vagina, part two, the remix. (both laughing) - Part two, the remix. - Oh, my goodness, all right. Yeah, I'm still pressing, you are not a fan. - I hate that movie. - I don't think anybody's a fan. - Well, we know one of our colleagues-- - I saw a TV blow. - Yeah, one of our colleagues, it's their favorite movie of the year. - Who? - Huh? - Oh, I know. - Yeah. - And I respect that person's opinion. - Yeah, all right. Well, tell me off, Mike, I just wanna know so I can look at their letter box. - Yeah. - And just see where it's lining up. - They put it at number one or two. No, number two, I think. - Can you tell me what else is in their top three off the top of your head? - Later. - I don't remember one, but I can't remember the third one. - And it'd be sick if it was like Amelia Perez won the beekeeper too. I'd be like, you know what? This guy or a girl gets it. (laughs) - It's the beekeeper. All right, well, speaking of all this Amelia Perez, there was a new story I think that Dan sent. Is the MCU casting somebody who's transgender into the MCU as a new character coming up? And people are already up in arms about it. - I don't know. - Haven't read this story. - Who are we talking about? - Oh, Hunter Shafer is allegedly in line to play Mystique. - Yes. - I would not like her to play anything in the MCU 'cause I like her in better movies. - I agree with that sentiment, but I also think that's the type of actress actor that we want in the MCU, like an interesting performer. And if she uses it like Sebastian Stan, where the third or fourth build person in an X-Men movie and once every four years, she's got to go to Atlanta for three months, but in between that, she's doing movies like "The Apprentice" or "A Different Man" and "Taking Risk" with their career 'cause they always know they have the bag to fall back on, then I love that. - That's true. - Do you think there'll be a big backlash and the whole nerd-dumb of MCU of this happening? - No, because I feel like people just take things out of, just want to be angry, angry for-- - It'll be angry people on Twitter, but-- - Yeah. - It'll be less than 3% of the people who are excited about this movie. It'll be trolls that'll point that out that she, you know, yeah, and it'll be very unfortunate. I'm sure she'll have to deal with it 'cause it'll get loud enough, but at the same time, I don't think many people who truly care about comic books are gonna be like, what, what's the, what's the blue chick really like in real life? Like I just, I can't, I can't get there. I can't, I'm really sorry. - And you don't bring back what's her name, Jennifer Lawrence? - Lawrence? - I don't think you could bring her back with a dump truck of money. - Yeah. - I don't think she's ever going back. - Yeah, I don't think, I don't think she's doing that kind of stuff anymore. - Well, she, but she's doing full frontal comedy scenes and-- - 'Cause that's fun for her. - Hey, she did, I saw an interview with her on that and I respect the hell. She did that because of all the leaks that happened for her and she said she wanted to take back her ability to display her body when she chooses to. So when I heard that, I was like, all right, well, okay. - Okay, girlfriend. - You know what I mean? Like I have no argument, good for her respect, tip of the hat. Also, great scene. I mean, just, she's gorgeous, but at the same time, hilariously. - Hilariously. - One of the funniest things I saw whatever year that was was her beating the shit out of kids completely naked. - So if this happens, if this person's name's Hunter Shafer, Hunter Shafer-- - What movie will they be in? - No one knows yet. - So it won't be like a fantastic four or anything like that? - It'd be the Incra-- - I feel like you've seen Hunter Shafer in things. Have you not seen Cuckoo? Have you not seen Euphoria? - I haven't seen Euphoria. I haven't seen Cuckoo. I haven't seen her do Hunger Games. - Hunger Games, yeah. - I haven't seen kinds of kindness. - Oh, well, she's very-- - She's a very small part of that, yeah. - She's very talented. - And she's very-- yeah. - Like, she's an incredible actor. I don't know. I don't want to get in trouble. Actor, whatever she wants to refer to herself as, she's so fucking good in Euphoria. And then in Cuckoo and kinds of kindness, I think she's better in Cuckoo and kinds of kindness, but she's good. I've never seen her in something where I've been like, "Wow, she's really dragging this production down." She's-- - Yeah, no, she's good. - Everyone from Euphoria somehow is an incredible actor. - Her actress. - So maybe mystique. Okay, all right, all right. Last little bit of news for the questions. It's the Blake Lively situation, the ongoing Blake Lively situation. This is, I've been saying it since the beginning. I hope this goes a trial. It looks like it's gonna happen. Dan, you are a resident law here. This is just getting funnier and better by the moment where at one point, everybody was against this guy, Justin, the director, and everybody was in love with Blake Lively and Ryan Reynolds. And now I think the turntables have turned, ladies and gentlemen. And what is going on? Is there gonna be discovery here? What's happening? - I will say that I listened to some voicemail that was leaked by Proble B Baldoni's team last night that he is a voicemail that he left to Blake Lively, saying, you know, I'm sorry that you felt that way. I'm sorry for making you feel that way. It's just his tone. I didn't like his tone. It's the very, what? - He sounds like a douchebag. - He sounds like a piece of shit. - I also want to point out that that voicemail was sent after she invited him over to her penthouse in New York and Ryan Reynolds and Taylor Swift came out of the wings to start saying how good her writing was and how he needed to incorporate these changes and stuff. So it's like, he's a piece of shit. But once again, she sounds like a real piece of shit too. - Not everyone, I will say not everyone involved has the best track record of things. And I just think it's a shit show, but when I listen to that voice note, that's like every fake feminist man I've ever dated, all like, all together. What? - Do you know everyone? - No! (laughing) - Listen, baby, I want you to own the world. (laughing) - But when he goes into the hole, like, oh, my wife, I'll say the wrong thing. I'll put my foot in my mouth, but I'll get there in the end. My wife says, and I'm just like, this is like, we're kind of off the rails for how you talk to people in like a professional manner. Like, if we were, I don't know, we all joke every week, but I feel like if we were making an actual project, like, I would never be like, I'm so sorry you felt that way, and I'm so glad that you feel so safe with me to say that. Like, that's douche avenue. - That's modern parenting, that's how I have to talk to my kid. - Yeah, okay, but yes, but a grown man talking to a grown woman that way is just very weird. - I said from the beginning. - I said from the beginning, don't pick a side. - Yeah, it's just gonna get ugly. - I did, I have picked a side, but I just... - I was just inside? - No, I will say the most embarrassing thing I've seen is Blake Lively's lawyers, who I know are top-notch lawyers, Ryan Reynolds lawyers, top-notch lawyers, for them to put out all the evidence they put out with all the out-of-context text messages and all these sorts of things and all these emails back and forth. And then Justin Baldoni releases the stuff in context and a set video, and they run to the judge to ask for a gag order is a horrific look. - Yeah. - Like, you can't be like, here's all this evidence of how bad he is, and he's like, actually, sure, I'm a douchebag, but here's all the text messages and emails in context and a video from the set where I was allegedly sexually harassing her and then be like, hey, judge, you need to hide this. Hey, no one's allowed to see it's that kind of stuff. I'm like, what are we doing here? And that's the kind of thing where I feel like I've said it. I made a joke a thousand times. Whether you're a company, a presidential nominee, or a celebrity, you should have all the lawyers that do all the other stuff, and then you should have one person who's hired to just be common sense person. Like, they don't have to weigh in sure they're paid, but they can say whatever they want. And someone should have been like, maybe we should like have this under seal from the start and not release all this stuff because we know he has all this stuff. Like, it's just, it's gonna get uglier. And as Brian wants it to go to trial, I think there's now, I think there's a zero percent chance this goes to trial. - Really? - I think they are going to, I think what's going to end up happening is she is going to be given the rights, the sequel to this terrible book series that she wants. He's gonna give it up and give it over to her to make it all go away. And he's gonna remain on as a producer, and they'll never work again, and we'll never know who's the bad guy or who's the good guy, ultimately. My biggest thing is this, if I'm Taylor Swift, I'm fucking pissed. If I'm Taylor Swift's media people, I am losing my shit right now. - For bringing the end to this, yeah. - Fucking gossip girl, bottom of the barrel CW actress, calling me one of her fucking dragons, like she can just pull me out and threaten a third rate director on a shitty rom-com at her beckoning call. I would be so mad, I'd be so mad. I'd be like, no, no, no, because Taylor Swift has such a good image, but to not be an attack dog for a not a good actress, Sam's crazy, I don't care how good her friends they are. Also, I hope Bane shows up to the Super Bowl. Anyway, go on. - Anyway, that is news for this week's episode. I've got a fun question for everybody. It's kind of going around, it's becoming viral. I think it's a funny question, and I feel like we would have fun with this question. So here it is. All right, here's the question everybody is going to answer. You're going to pick one movie, you're going to keep one actor from that movie. The rest are played by Muppets. - Have we done this before? - We haven't done this before. - It went viral online. - Yeah, we have not done this. But pick a movie, keep one actor in that movie. The rest are played by Muppets. What are you picking and who's your one actor in the movie? Anybody? I'm first. - Dan, go for it. - Heat. And the only live action person who will remain is going to be Tom Sizemore. Oh, my other person is a Muppet. - Every other person is a Muppet. - Who's the main Muppet in this movie? - I think obviously animal is wangro. - Okay. - I think that's just, I mean, it's got to be wangro. I think Beaker is going to be Val Kilmer, Chris. I just think that's perfect 'cause he gets so whiny at the end and is, oh, actually Judd, obviously Miss Piggy. I know you would say, oh, it's got to be Kermit, but Kermit is obviously Al Pacino, so he can be like, "Hoorah!" Like his boy's doing her ass. - I really thought you were going to go a different direction with that, Dan. - Nope. - I thought you were going to say John Wick and keep Keanu, and it was just-- - No, Keanu would be the first one I got rid of. The only person, you know who I would keep? Rest in power, King is the concierge. (laughing) That would make everyone else a Muppet. (laughing) - Lance Rettick? - Yeah, Lance Rettick, the only one who is a real person and the dog, that's it. - That's good. All right, Chelsea, pick your one movie, keep your one after the rest are Muppets. I wish I could do a Kermit voice so bad. - Kermit, Kermit. - Say, "Oh, good truth, all in a rest." (laughing) Your face is all openin'. - Put the little hands. - Get a great ass. (laughing) - Um, I'm gonna go, I don't know. I feel like, I feel like, I mean, just because we hate Nazis on this show, I feel like I would go in glorious bastards and Brad Pitt would be the only actual actor. - Lieutenant Aldo, right? - Yeah. - Who would play Christoph Waltz's character? (laughing) - Miss Peggy, right? - I mean, it's Miss Peggy. - Oh my. - It's Miss Peggy. - That's... (laughing) - On a ball. - Sweet as Chef. - Sweet as Chef is Hans Landau. (laughing) - Yeah, that's pretty good. - Oh my God. That's pretty good. - That's pretty good. - That's pretty good. - I like that. - I also have always wanted to see like a Jurassic park, but all of the dinosaurs are muffits. - Yeah. - And maybe it's just like... - Just Laura Durr. - Laura Durr, yeah. - I really thought Chelsea was gonna go mid-so-mar and Jack Rayner was the only... Was the only... - No, it would have been... - Live actor. - Who would be the only live actor? - Oh, to watch that exact scene would be amazing with Muppets. (laughing) - That's the only place. - Or just like Kermit eating himself off the cliff. - That would be hilarious. - Miss Peggy has to come over and bash his brains in. - I think you should keep, no. - Missed them are, but it's only Will Polter. (laughing) - Oh, that's... And he's just having a really bad trip. - Yeah. - Until he got into that Marvel diet, he kind of looked muppety. - Oh, absolutely. - That's so good. I like that. - All right, Preston. - What about Bob, but Bob's the only human character? (laughing) - That'd be pretty good. - Orbo is afraid to make it just bow. - Anybody who like that is just bad anxiety, dude. (laughing) - Oh, uncut gems? - Yeah, that'd be fun. - Who's the one that? - But just Kevin Garnett. - Yeah, Kevin Garnett's the only real person. (laughing) - Julia Fox is the only real one. - Oh, Julia Fox has to be, no. Miss Peggy has to be Julia. - No, I know. - That's too funny. I like that. I like it. - Okay, Brian, give us yours. - I had a couple. One was a alien, and the only real person is the alien. Just. (laughing) - Real person. - Was the, and then everything else's muppets. The other one I thought of was Top Gun Maverick, and it was Miles Teller. It was the only real one. Just because I thought that would be so good. - It would be the pilots, Gonzo Pepe, Kurney. - Gonzo and Camilla. (laughing) - Kirby. - It would be, yeah, it would be, I think would be pretty funny. (laughing) I would watch a Top Gun Maverick Muppet movie, but I was trying to like come up with like real serious, like 12 angry men type of movies. And like-- - Inler's list. - And you're in number two. (laughing) - You're in number two. - You don't wanna do Schindler's list with Muppet? - Well, I was trying, like, is it like the, well, who do you put, I mean, that would be great to have Ray Fines as the only actor in there, like just killing every Muppet in the world. - I like the thought of Top Gun Maverick, but Jennifer Conley is the only human in watching her have more sexual chemistry with Kermit. - Than Tom Cruise, yeah. - Than the Tom Cruise. - Kermit crawling through the window is just so good. (laughing) And all in like the football scene on the beach with a Muppets doing that, I think would be hilarious. - How their little Muppet like arms and legs would move. - Yeah. (laughing) - It's a lot of wires and sticks. - Yeah. - Oh, I love that. - I think you have so much fun with that. Or, I mean, think about a movie I think we've all seen. Is this year's Conclave? Who are you keeping in Conclave? - Isabella Rosalini. - Yeah, that's it. (laughing) I like this question. All right, that's-- - The vape guy. - The what? - The vape guy. - Yeah, the vape. - Oh man, watching him argue with Gonzo or Pepe. - Or Pepe. (laughing) - Pepe. (laughing) - It'd be pretty good. All right, that's a good question. All right, trivia time, trivia time, trivia time. We do trivia before we get into just one of the guys. This first one will go to Preston. Preston, you're insanely difficult trivia question. - Okay. - Who voices Dory, the star of the movie, finding Dory? Oh, I know this one. - Oh, St. Ellen DeGeneres. - Cancel. (laughing) - Yeah, you are correct, sir. - Cancel. - Were the choices? - Whoopi Goldberg, Oprah Winfrey, Ellen DeGeneres, or Sandra Bullock. - Oh. - Sandra Bullock would have done a good job. There you go. - Yeah. - All right, for Dan. - Excuse me. - Your difficult trivia question. - Right. - Which starship enterprise crew member does Chris Pineplay in the 2016 movie, "Heart Track VR?" There you go. There you go. - I thought it was gonna be like a old school star. - Yeah, I thought it was gonna be like it. Actually, it was Captain Jazoo. - It's Captain James T. Kirk. - Yeah. - It's fucker. - Fuckin' red shirt, fucker. - The T stands for toy. - All right. - All right. - We were saving perhaps the most difficult one for Chelsea. So Chelsea, here's your difficult trivia question. - Okay. - Who plays Deadshot in the 2016 movie, "Suicide Squad?" - Will Smith. - There you go. Would you like the multiple choice? - Sure. - It's gonna be four black guys. This trivia are quite on the nose with their... - You are wrong, sir. Morgan Freeman. Denzel. - Channing Tatum. - Barack Obama. All right, here we go. It is Liam Hemsworth. - Oh. - That's awesome. - Will Smith, Robert Downey Jr. or Jared Leto. - Jared Leto, that's right. - Yeah. - This is the weirdest movie buff trivia ever. - I can't believe I answered that. I'm like a shame to know that. - Well, the other question I was gonna give you and it was way too easy was who plays Deadpool 2018 movie, Deadpool. - Blake Library. - There he is. That is the correct answer. All right. All right. Let's get to our main event on "Fear and Love and Cinema" podcast. It is just one of the guys from 1985. Came out April 26, 1985. Was directed by Lisa Gottlieb and star Joyce Heiser, Clayton Roener, Billy Jacoby, William Sabapka, William Zabka. I'm sorry. And then of course, our one, our only, our love. Cheryl and Finn, amongst others. This movie, I guess, for me, 1985. Just a movie I grew up with watching and for very good reasons, brought me into my manhood very early on. This was an interesting movie, which could be very well play into today's society and culture. I loved it back then. I still love it today. But let's start with Preston. Preston, I don't even think you were alive when this movie came out in 1985. But what did you first see it? And did you enjoy it back then? Back then, like is in last night? Yes. Oh, is this your version first time? Yep, this is my first time. Oh. I've seen this movie before. With movies like Never Been Kissed and She's the Man and things like that. So it's a good movie. I'll say that. I think it's kind of like watching, although I would not throw it in the same pool, but there's somewhat of a comparison to be made with movies like some like it hot where you're like, man, this is advanced thought or just thoughts that should be happening in cinema. That's just not happening. And big kudos to this movie for taking it head on and having some interesting conversations. And it's, yeah, I think it's a fun time. Even my wife doesn't want me to say this, but I'm gonna say it anyway. She's like, I'm really surprised Brian picked this. And I was like, I'm glad you said it. It's pretty damn good. All right. Yeah, I loved it. It was good. Good, good. I'm very happy. Chelsea, Chelsea, when did you first see this? And is it better than Emilia Perez? Oh, most definitely. I first saw this Sunday night. Oh, right. I was a virgin to this show. I was also a virgin. I was just one of the guys. Is one of the guys that you enjoy it? I think this, although some things are dated, I think this is a very charming movie. And it got a lot of giggles out of me, especially with the brother. I really loved how kind of this was written by guys but directed by a woman. And I could kind of see that in certain scenes which we'll talk about and that they were a lot softer handed than how you think, how guys think girls react, I guess. Yeah. Yeah, I liked it. Good. Dan, what did you first see this movie? And is it Meet Your Kevin Costner Seal of Approval? Last night after watching Companion, I came home and watched this. And- Very homekeeping. It is somehow containing every single 80s corny trope. I still enjoyed it. I enjoyed it. Like every single stereotype that you could imagine from an 80s like rom-com exists in this movie but it was still really enjoyable. And I thought it was funny. I picture Preston's wife watching this movie for an hour and 20 minutes and being like, "Well, I would press and pick this." And then when she opens her shirt, she's like, "Oh, there it is." (laughs) We had to wait till the end but there's why Brian picked it 'cause he grew up watching those movies. Sure did. - Or even the opening shot of it. The opening shot, I was like, "Ah, they were doing the body gaze." And then I even said, "I bet you this was directed by a man." And then a woman's name popped up and I was like, "Oh shit." And then what's funny is that yes, it does have all those 80s stereotypes but yet it does feel like a commentary on it too. - That was my next question for you all. Even though Chelsea said there's a little bit of jokes that didn't age but does this movie feel timeless? Because we have a lot of these high schoolish movies and it feels like it's a different time. But here, I don't know. I feel like the essence of the tones and the themes in the movie feel timeless in this and just one of the guys. Is that, is there any truth to that? - Timeless in what way? - I just, I guess the feeling of camaraderie and friends and like, I mean, I brought it up in this run sheet but I, do you love the brother and sister love here? Even though they're not in love but in a lot of these movies, you see brothers and sisters hating and fighting each other. And in this movie, they're really on the same side and they're really encouraging each other to, by laughing at each other's jokes and doing all that stuff, I really enjoyed it in this sense. And so I feel like there's a timeless 80s character development in this movie and tones and themes that we don't get in most movies. That's why I feel like I could show this now and it feels like it happened today. Sans costumes and stuff. - I think there are some things that I don't consider timeless and about this and it's not like language, it's just like one of the things just right off the bat, she's a very young high school girl dating a guy in college. That was weird. Well, let's be clear, the hardest I laugh is the fact that this would be the equivalent right now if we were filming a high school movie and they cast Boyd Holbrook and Sebastian Stan to be. - Yes. - Like these guys were like 34 years old. - Yeah, they were 28, 29, 30 years old when they were making this movie. - Yeah. - Correct me up. - These were old. - These were men. - Yeah, these were men. - That were men. - Morehouse was Sebastian Stan. (laughing) - Did any of you think that this is timeless? Like there's like this little hidden capsule that this feels like any generation can watch this movie and get a better understanding of, you know, gender and what it means to be equal as far as female male? - I thought that it was more progressive than what you would expect from an 80s comedy, but I don't think that it was preachy in any way that you can walk away from it being like, that was really profound. I mean, you can find that in your own interpretation of it, but I don't think it was beating you over the head. - It's not quite, I know, I now pronounce you Chuck and Larry or something. (laughing) - Right, but it, I think that's what surprised me most about it was for all the times I was laughing at the 30 year olds playing high school kids for the terrible costumes for just all the 80s stuff, like the nerds, the fact that for some reason their bathrooms are like prison graffiti, just all of the little 80s things that made me chuckle. I think at its core, it still had a message and a story enough for you, if you were to pull back from it, you could be like, you know what? Yeah, this is kind of touching. And like you touched on with the relationship between the brother and sister. I, starting the movie, I immediately was like, this brother is going to be the most annoying heel in the entire movie. And instead he was just an annoying horn dog, but really wasn't like a roadblock to his sister's life. He was helping her. Like he loved her and he wanted to help her while still constantly only caring about getting late. - Right, all right, for those who haven't seen just one of the guys, I'm the only one here, but Chelsea, tell everybody what the gist of just one of the guys is about. What is the movie, what is the movie about? - This movie is about a high school girl who is very ambitious in her writing, who has a lot of ambitions in her writing career. And she decides after her, I think her writing teacher says that her writing isn't well and it's not good enough to submit to a contest. She decides to become a guy from another school because she ultimately doesn't want her gender to affect her winning a place in a story contest. - Because she thinks that if she were a guy, her paper would be good enough to get into the contest and win. - She sees men as being graded with a ironically, much softer curve than ambitious women are. - Okay. And how do you think that story, how do you think Lisa Gottlieb weave that undertone of like the pitch into this kind of, I will say wacky screwball high school comedy because there's some weirdness to it. - I liked this a lot, but one of the things that I just wanted more of was I wanted to see more of who Terry was as a girl, as a teenage girl. I feel like I saw her, I mean, obviously because it's, she's one of the guys more as a guy and the times that we see her as a girl are either with her brother or her boyfriend who's the fucking worst. - Why do you look like hell? - Yeah, (laughs) - Yeah. And I just, there were scenes of her with her friend, which I think were really, really relatable. There's a line that they say, they say, they're all lame, like talking about boys, they're all lame, but if you put them in a rent to tux, they may move up to semi-lane. And I feel like that's how girls talk in high school. And so I wanted a little bit more of that. And like more of a, just see more girl friendships than focusing so much on the relationship with her brother, the relationship with the college boyfriend, the relationship with her new best friend, so. - All right, Preston, what do you think about all of that? What do you think about the tone and the mix of kind of the serious theme of the show or the movie and then all of the wacky comedy in it? - I think, I mean, I agree with Chelsea, but I do agree that, or I think that it does gel well together because I found myself enjoying scenes for a lot of different reasons, like one being like, like the brother coming in and you see all the porn center folds all over the wall for the first time. But yeah, like you're like, of course, but then she's like, why do you even have all this, like this is disgusting type of thing? And then he says, oh, no, like she's doing the center fold because of-- - Kim Reed's Monica-- - Kim Reed's Monica in the bathtub. Yeah, Kim Reed's Monica in the bathtub. - Yeah. - What do you mean? - Yeah, so it's just funny how it just kind of flips things around, so that's why I say like this film does a pretty good job at like presenting you with the lens that you're used to with like 80s sex comedies. But yet there'll be moments of discussion or something that kind of says, oh, there's more to it than that and it's smart for doing that sort of thing. And the movie does take pause amid all the hijinks to have some real conversations every now and then and then get you to relate with feelings. But I do agree with Chelsea that it probably could have taken more time for us to get to understand Terry earlier on as a woman, but it's still conveys enough for me to be like, okay, I mean, I get it, maybe you could have done an appeal with your writing prompt, but it would have been okay but to go to this level. But you know, I like these types of movies. I know I mentioned Never Been Kissed and She's the Man. And so, which goes back to like Shakespearean comedy plays and I enjoy those type of experiment type of story. So yeah, I think it works well. - Dan, do you like the story works here? Do you see like the La Caja fall, the bird cage aspect of it of, you know, even like those moments of her brother trying to teach her to be a man and just like kind of like walking like one and talking like one? What do you mean? - I mean, yeah, I enjoyed all that stuff and I'm just really glad that now this movie feels so outdated because, you know, a woman pretending to be a man to get an opportunity somewhere just that doesn't exist. So it felt really good to watch how backwards everyone was in the 80s. - Yeah, you just flip that around and you get Oscar nominations for every category in Amelia Perez. - It's, no, it's, I am, I was truly surprised because I know Preston brought it up earlier with I now pronounce your Chuck and Larry but I thought that this movie was going to be much more offensive than it truly was. - Yeah. - And that's probably why they didn't focus so much on Terry at the very beginning. So they could steer completely away from jokes being made about women and then what's this dive right into it. - Also, can we talk about like PG-13 ratings? Like when, like-- - Well, this was 1985, yeah. - I know. When did the switch happen where you can't show boobs anymore? 'Cause there's so many boobs in this. - Is there only one, I think, right? - Is it the-- - Is all the back, no, there's the scene at the end which I get. - Oh, Dan's counting the tiny boobs in the back of the movie. - Or many movies, yeah. - They wouldn't allow you to show that on today's movies. - It's like post-hyphenic. - Yeah, like just a picture in the background. A picture in the background, they'd be like, "Oh, we're gonna have to get standards and practices down here because that is a playboy behind him." And in this one, they're just, I was like, "Oh, good for movies." Realizing this isn't a big deal. - Yeah, 'cause I remember seeing like a bush in the back and I was like, "Oh, okay." - Yeah, okay. Well, let's talk about the big titty scene. - Y'all never seen this before, were y'all shocked when that happened or were you expecting that to happen? - I was expecting it. - I thought she was gonna have a brawn. - Okay. - 'Cause you need to be 13. But I wasn't like the guy who said he goes, "Where did you get those?" Isn't that what you're gonna be saying? Like the dumbest quote ever, like, "Can you imagine someone flashing those to you and your reaction being like, where'd you get those?" Like, do you want any? - Kmart. - Kmart. - Did you like that scene, Chelsea? - Yeah, I just don't understand. I think the scene is really funny and I think it conveys just like I got tits, bro. Like, I'm not, 'cause he's like, "Oh, you're gay." She's like, "No, no." Like, that's the only thing in the moment that she can kind of do to be like listen. - It didn't feel exploited. - Yeah. - They didn't choose the man to do it. - I will say. - No, what'd you say? - So, and she's the man they do it. 'Cause she flashes the entire football person. - Yeah. - I just feel like it wasn't, it wasn't expected and in the realm of the story, I didn't feel like a lot of '80s comedies, as we all know, 'cause we've all seen a lot of '80s comedies. The point is when are we gonna get to the boobs? And this is the first '80s comedy where I can remember, like the boobs served a purpose in the narrative of-- - Slow burn, boob. - Yeah, like-- - Slow burn, yeah. - Served a purpose in the narrative of the story where I was like, "Oh, she had to show her boobs "because this guy was arguing that." Like, I was like, "Okay, this." Sure. - Yeah. - Instead of having like 10 locker room scenes for no reason. - I just don't know how she's walking around with those honkers, not like binding things. And then, and then nobody's like, "Hey." You know, the small guy who looks like the karate kid mixed with Elvis Costello, like, I think he may have breasts. - Nobody knew, nobody knew. I do wanna bring up Joyce Heiser, her performance. Did her New Yorkiness, did her New Jerseyness, did her New York accent throw you off at all as being like anything sexy in that movie? Like, her just, you know, this fucking, I mean, it was basically Daniel LaRusso talking the whole movie. And I'm just like, all right, when she's-- - Brian, are you trying to tell us that you were turned on on the main part of it? - Very much so. We'll go both way. - Actually, a credit to her. She's gorgeous in the beginning of the movie. - Yes. - Like when she's, how she's dressed and then the bikini scene with her creep boyfriend and all that stuff. And then when she cuts her hair and does the shitty guy voice and dresses like that, I was kind of like, is this? - This isn't the same. - Yeah, I kind of wondered too. It's like, did they just totally recast? - Yeah, the first five minutes where she was the boy, I was like, oh, so they just got like a feminine man to play her the rest of the, but no, that was good performance. - I love how androgynous she looked. - Yeah, that's fine. - Yeah. - Yeah. - You look good. And so with these different characters, so like the characters in this movie, I would like a key and peel sketch on how these characters were made because usually the brother and sister are fighting like again, we said earlier, but they're actually really for each other. They really, she laughs at her idiot brother's horniness constantly and it's just funny. - You had that great joke where you said, horny will kick embarrassment's ass every time. - Yeah. (laughing) And just his willingness to make himself an idiot for love and sex is just, he commits and it's so good. Like even in public where they're at like the diner and he starts like fake orgasm, I mean, and like her reaction, the sister's reaction is like, oh my God, and she's not mad. She just gets embarrassed and she starts laughing. I love that, but then the reverse of that is her college boyfriend, who's the asshole, who you would think an older sister's boyfriend would be nicer to the younger sibling, but he is such an asshole to everybody, including her. And then in addition to that, we'll talk about all these characters, the two nerds of the school are aliens from another planet. And I feel like this is like an 80s trope that has happened. - Those are the coolest guys ever. The guys with all the different reptiles. - Well, there's one guy with the reptile, right? And there's two nerds. - And there's just the star wars guy. - There's an alpha guy. - There's a guy who's dressed as a Star Wars character. I'm Star Trek at one time. - I like the reptile guy. (laughing) - There's a lot. - It was great, so what do you think about these characters and like how they were written? It was just, it's just funny to see like... - It's went hot American summer. It is literally just 80s tropes all compiled in, but for some reason in this movie, you're just like, "Oh yeah, that's the reptile guy." And you just completely move on with the rest of the story. - And I'm trying to remember going in high school. I mean, I went to school in the 80s too, but it was, I'm trying to remember like these weird people that like thought they were aliens or somebody who always had like, you know, the chipmunk or, you know, like a lizard in their pocket. You know, it's just... - I don't think those people really exist. - Yeah, how do you, I was just gonna say, I know this is like a very 80s trope. - But it's in the 80s. - It was made then. - Well, I get it, but were people really bringing like, I don't think people were really bringing like animals? - I think they were harder on making these people nerds than anybody else in the movie. - Yeah. - All right. I mean, I was curious about that. I did, but I liked, did y'all watching it for the first time notice the bond between brother and sister in here? And did you like seeing their kind of love for each other? Because even like that small joke when somebody calls the phone and the brother answers and he's like, you fucking scumbag. - Suck your own. - And it's just, I mean, like, oh, wait, they might not, I mean, even though they're affluent, they might not have a good home life. So they take care of each other. I kind of like that understood rule of the movie. Did you like that? - Yeah, of course. - Yeah, that was probably the best relationship in the movie. - Yeah, honestly. - Really, you don't think the new guy that she likes, she's trying to get a date for. You don't think that relationship really is the best there? - I think it's fine. I just-- - It feels like the more plot one versus the natural one. - Okay. - Okay. - By the way, his brother is like Corey Haim rented from a second-hand store or something. - We have Corey Haim at home. - Yeah. - There you go. - So what do you think about William Zopka? - The Karate Kid villain is the villain in this movie. - He has a nopiness. (laughing) - Do you not like seeing him again in this movie as the same character, basically? - I should like draw go son. - Yeah? - Yeah. - He's fine. - You all know somebody like that in school? - Oh yeah. - Kind of like a bully like that? - Yeah, everyone knew bullies. I never had one that was, like the preppy kids weren't the big bullies like that way, at least when I was growing up. Like they didn't dress really nice and they weren't super rich. Like those were just assholes. The bullies weren't the rich kids who were doing like physical violence to people. So that's why it always cracks me up in the 80s. It was like, it's the rich kid who also is physically violent. It's like no, those people usually like hurt you. - Emotionally. - Yeah, those were emotional scars. It was the kids who didn't have dad at home that usually would push you over and knock books out of your hands and stuff. So it was. - Yeah. - I always love that in the 80s, it's combined. It's like, sir, you're driving a convertible and you still go out of your way just to ruin the Star Wars kids days by physical violence. Like what is wrong with you? - Would y'all think about seeing Cheryl and Flynn as a very young actress in this movie? Cheryl and Finn was, I believe 20 in this and this was a couple of years before Twin Peaks and her kind of iconic character Audrey Horn. And I really liked her in this and I think what I was talking about earlier with the female director kind of lens, there is a scene in where Terry and what is her name in this? - Nancy, I think. - Nancy. There's a scene where they're kind of like left alone and of course, Cheryl and Finn's trying to, she has a crush on him. She's trying to like get with him. And for a second, she puts her hand in his pants and she pulls out the, like a sock. And I feel like as if a man were to direct that it would be some kind of like, oh, like what the fuck? Like what is this? What is this? And instead she's like, I'm really flattered. You would do this for me and it's very sweet because I feel like there's more of kind of like a gray area with I guess more feminine thinking. But yeah, that I think really cemented the kind of like movie it was for me. Yeah, I was like, oh, so we can, you know, have all of the stuff from the brother who's just a horn ball and we can have Terry, we can have Terry, you know, has her own journey. But I really liked that kind of little, these little relationships and little things that they go through. And she's like, no, you know? It's the nuanced relation. It's the nuanced moments because you bring that up and the brother he's trying to hook up with a girl at his own house. And she asked him, was like, well, do you have a big penis? And he just goes, no. He's like honest about it. And she doesn't make fun of him for it. She just, you know, it's a very sweet moment. Like, well, the one you're talking about, Chelsea. Yeah, it was funny how inexperienced he was in general when he goes, what if I told you I was hung like a bear, which is the first time I'd ever heard that why he's be used. Like, I've heard horse elephant, but he just chose a bear, like, like a care bear. I don't associate. Yeah, are you always with big tits? Yeah. Are you hung like a bear? It's not like a bear. But no, it just, I like those little moments. And I guess we were right, Chelsea, directed by a woman. You have these tender ear moments that could have gone sillier or worse than it. Or just more aggressive, like, like, oh. Bring her shame to the moment. Yeah, it's just, it's a-- It's ahead of its time with those kinds of jokes. Yeah. That stuff happens now all the time. It's like, how did you feel at the end of the movie where, you know, everything's wrapped up there together? She got her internship and she comes across the teacher and he goes, I misjudged you. And she tells him, actually, you allowed me this to happen. If you did not believe in me, I wouldn't have worked so hard for it. Did you like that message? I don't know if I liked the message. Yeah. I liked, I liked that it went there with her being honest to her self as a character and realizing that she-- not that she was phoning it in, but that the stuff she was writing probably wasn't good enough. I mean, that's the bottom line, is how, at least how I took it was, she thought she was a good enough writer to do it her way. And yes, she had to do an outlandish thing, but it wasn't until he pushed her across that line that she found that in herself. But he doesn't deserve any credit for that. He can apologize, but it's also, I like that she also recognized, no, I was kind of in this rut. And once you pushed me, like, forced me to do this, even though it probably wasn't right, it opened up some new things for me. And I thought that was-- at least that's how I took it was. I didn't need your help, I didn't know. Yeah, I think I saw it more as she was writing what she thought was good. And then when she was a guy and she turned her paper in, she even got the feedback that, you know, you're a guy, you can write with some sensitivity. So she's just kind of like in these two-polar opposite places. And when she writes with her own voice, that's when she gets the feedback. Yeah, the teacher doesn't deserve the credit. But it did force her to write what she wants to write, as opposed to what she-- Oh, teachers were gross. They were talking about fucking students and stuff. And I'm just like, I don't like this. That was the '80s, man. I bet your teachers do that. Private. Yeah, I would imagine so. You know today. So are you excited that this new '80s movie is in your repertoire now that you've seen it? Would you watch it again? I'd watch one part. Which part would that be, Dan? Come on, that's a good joke. I would much rather my kids watch this than forties or revenge of the nerds and things like that. Like if we were going to be like, here's an old '80s comedy. I would feel much more comfortable with both my kids being like, I just watched just one of the guys. I'd be like, OK. But much better than some of the other-- I think you've still got to show them something like weird science and be like, this is what it is. We can discuss it and then be like, hey, here's one that challenged it. Yes. But if there was one that I didn't-- you know, if they went off and watched something and they're like, we watched an '80s coming. I'd be like, it depends on how well they are. Please don't be this. Please don't be that. Please don't be this one in my head. Fast times at Ridgemont High, I'm like, please don't let my daughter ever see this movie until she's like 27. It's a good movie. Yeah. So Chelsea, do you recommend this movie? I do recommend this movie. This is a fun movie. It's fun. It is-- I recommend-- I think the charm comes from the relationship she has with her brother. And I was kind of waiting for the movie to catch up to the brother's charm, if I can be honest. So the whole time, I'm just like, oh, there's going to be something. And then I was like, the brother was kind of the MVP of this. Like he played his-- he knew what movie he was in and he played it really well. I would recommend this because I think it is fun and it's charming and it's funny. And like you said, it is a kind of timeless snapshot of that time in history. And yeah, I think it sets up a great just beginners like library of if you want to get into 80s movies and 80s trope movies. Yeah, it's an unsung hero of 80s movies. Not many people remember this. Preston, how about you? You recommend it? Yeah, yeah. For all the reasons we've already said and discussed throughout, I think it's a good film on status to just like how the movie bookends with that one kind of creepy guy that got really close to whoever he was talking to. I don't know if y'all clocked that, where he's like, what are you doing on Saturday night? Oh, yeah. The guy at school who just seemed like a nice guy. And then you read the article and he's like, oh, yeah, you can be cool. It doesn't matter how you dress or how you look. Yeah, but that's not like an open invitation to go up to somebody and be like, great, what are you doing Saturday night? Yeah, exactly. Exactly. You have standards. So what do you give this movie? Percentage wise. Oh, what did I give it? Because it's it's got like a 51% on Rotten Tomatoes right now. I think I give it like a 75 or somewhere. I was going to say at least the 70. It should be hovering around a 70 for sure. At the like the low end for me would be like 70. Yeah, because I'd give it like three and a half stars. Yeah. I would give it I would give it three stars. Yeah, you're 60. Um, three and a half, three. Give it a passing grade. It deserves. Yeah, yeah. No, I definitely think it deserves a passing grade. And I did anyone notice 60 might be passing. Ooh. Did anyone notice the the school names that it was the beavers versus the pearl divers? Yes, I like that a lot. I did like I like that too. It was like that the sexual humor. And before I give my thinking by my rating, I just want to go back to what Chelsea said about the brother. I think his charm starts early on because the sister constantly is smirking, smiling and laughing at what he says. And I think she knows who he is. And he's just unapologetically that in this moment. Yeah, what he is. But he respects women. It's so good. Um, I give this movie, I think, uh, I'm going to say like an 87. Like, I love this movie. Like I grew up with this movie. I press the. No, that was me like saying five stars five five stars. No, I love this movie. I think I've seen it so much. I own it. And I mean, bringing a little kid, you remember the big titty scene just because like, oh my god, it's just like titties. And but I liked all the characters and it's just like, it's okay to be you, even though if you're an alien or a person who brings lizards everywhere, uh, I like this just just one of the guys. Thank you. This is fear and love in cinema podcast. Dan, John Wick, this movie for us. There is no John Wick, there's no John Wick for this. This is no John Wick. Team comedy. Like, I don't want anyone to be murdered in this movie. Okay. Good. Good. Good. Preston, where are they finding you? Preston. Where are they finding you? Donnie Jr. Uh, you can find me on blue ray dad on Instagram, pressing bar to everything else and all my writing on didn't RC dot com in my bloody podcast. Hell yeah. Chelsea. I want to know why this woman wasn't flagged for two weeks of truancy while her parents were out of town, by the way. Um, 80s movies have all of the, all of the limits. You can find me at miss underscore Tenenbaum on Twitter or Chelsea Nico on everything else Instagram, mostly in my bloody podcast. Yes, that too. She forgets. Uh, Dan, the law of the land. What is your, what is your Twitter handle? You're in loathing in cinema on Instagram and at Elon Musk on Twitter. Perfection. I think I call these slurs on Twitter. Dan. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm Brian Clueger. You can find Brian Clueger me on social media and on boomstick comics.com. We're writing this happening. All the interview and videos and all that stuff happening on social media. Um, in my bloody podcast and electromagnetic radio, soundtracks radio on Wednesdays. It's a good time. We will see y'all next week with another movie on fear and low data cinema podcast, the best fucking movie podcast in the world. Earth woman seems irritable. Too much coffee. enough sex. [BLANK_AUDIO]
In the sprawling world of film podcasts, Fear and Loathing in Cinema sets itself apart with its irreverent blend of pop culture critique, nostalgic deep-dives, and a razor-sharp, at times almost uncomfortably candid, dissection of cinematic relics that were once scorned but now, with the benefit of time, seem worthy of a second look. Hosted by a group of unpredictable yet undeniably insightful voices; Bryan Kluger, a media director with a sharp sense of irony of offensive things; Dan Moran, a lawyer who brings an often absurd legal perspective of the film industry and Kevin Costner; Preston Barta, a film critic with a taste for the heart-warmingly obscure branch of cinema; and Chelsea Nicole, a culture critic who digs into the nuances of social dynamics and horror; Fear and Loathing in Cinema Podcast thrives in that rare space between sincere analysis and gut-busting humor.
In episode #105, the crew dives headfirst into the '80s teen comedy Just One of the Guys (1985), a film that, much like its genre-mates, initially earned more eye-rolls than accolades. Yet, here they are, a group of podcasting contrarians, ready to defend this cheesy, cross-dressing, high-school farce as an underrated gem. The film, directed by Lisa Gottlieb, tells the story of a high school girl (played by Joyce Hyser) who disguises herself as a boy in order to prove to her school’s predominantly male student body that she’s a serious journalist, and, of course, hilarity and heartbreak ensues. It's the kind of film where logic takes a backseat to '80s charm, but with that, it also gives the gang plenty of fodder for witty commentary and the occasional well-timed jab.
This Week's Highlights:
Beyond the movie at hand, there’s a ton of sidetracking that we’ve come to expect from the Fear and Loathing in Cinema gang. The topics, at times more absurd than the plot of the film they’re discussing, are the lifeblood of this podcast's erratic brilliance. Here's a sneak peek into the conversation:
* Is Quentin Tarantino being a good dad or has fatherhood sent him over the edge? This tangent comes courtesy of a viral interview clip where Tarantino, in classic fashion, drops a few eccentric truths about fatherhood that make one wonder if he's as in control as his film scripts might suggest.
* Kevin Costner’s new show: a hit or a misfire? Not long ago, Costner was everyone's favorite American hero, but as Yellowstone wrapped, the podcast crew takes a long look at what comes next for the actor who’s constantly reinventing himself.
* The MCU might be casting a transgender actor? For better or worse, the MCU remains an evolving cultural juggernaut, and this week’s speculative casting choices reveal how much further it’s willing to go in representing the LGBTQ+ community.
* Blake Lively: What's going on? Chelsea Nicole, ever the pop-culture sleuth, leads the charge on dissecting the actress's recent public moments, pointing out that sometimes, the stories behind the headlines are just as interesting as the films themselves.
* Robert Eggers directing a Labyrinth prequel? This news hit like a bolt of lightning. How will the visionary behind The Witch and The Northman navigate the world of Jim Henson’s beloved puppet creatures? And why, exactly, does the thought of photographing a car make Eggers "ill"?
The crew also manages to wrangle in the ridiculous notion of Pick a Movie/Keep One Actor, the Rest Played by Muppets and if that’s not your idea of podcast gold, I don’t know what is.
Movie Analysis: "Just One of the Guys"
As they revisit Just One of the Guys, the hosts attempt to peel back the layers of this teen comedy; scrutinizing everything from the absurdity of the plot to the bizarre yet endearing performances by the cast. They dive into why Just One of the Guys has to be re-evaluated with a modern lens. Is it a film that accurately describes the turbu...
In episode #105, the crew dives headfirst into the '80s teen comedy Just One of the Guys (1985), a film that, much like its genre-mates, initially earned more eye-rolls than accolades. Yet, here they are, a group of podcasting contrarians, ready to defend this cheesy, cross-dressing, high-school farce as an underrated gem. The film, directed by Lisa Gottlieb, tells the story of a high school girl (played by Joyce Hyser) who disguises herself as a boy in order to prove to her school’s predominantly male student body that she’s a serious journalist, and, of course, hilarity and heartbreak ensues. It's the kind of film where logic takes a backseat to '80s charm, but with that, it also gives the gang plenty of fodder for witty commentary and the occasional well-timed jab.
This Week's Highlights:
Beyond the movie at hand, there’s a ton of sidetracking that we’ve come to expect from the Fear and Loathing in Cinema gang. The topics, at times more absurd than the plot of the film they’re discussing, are the lifeblood of this podcast's erratic brilliance. Here's a sneak peek into the conversation:
* Is Quentin Tarantino being a good dad or has fatherhood sent him over the edge? This tangent comes courtesy of a viral interview clip where Tarantino, in classic fashion, drops a few eccentric truths about fatherhood that make one wonder if he's as in control as his film scripts might suggest.
* Kevin Costner’s new show: a hit or a misfire? Not long ago, Costner was everyone's favorite American hero, but as Yellowstone wrapped, the podcast crew takes a long look at what comes next for the actor who’s constantly reinventing himself.
* The MCU might be casting a transgender actor? For better or worse, the MCU remains an evolving cultural juggernaut, and this week’s speculative casting choices reveal how much further it’s willing to go in representing the LGBTQ+ community.
* Blake Lively: What's going on? Chelsea Nicole, ever the pop-culture sleuth, leads the charge on dissecting the actress's recent public moments, pointing out that sometimes, the stories behind the headlines are just as interesting as the films themselves.
* Robert Eggers directing a Labyrinth prequel? This news hit like a bolt of lightning. How will the visionary behind The Witch and The Northman navigate the world of Jim Henson’s beloved puppet creatures? And why, exactly, does the thought of photographing a car make Eggers "ill"?
The crew also manages to wrangle in the ridiculous notion of Pick a Movie/Keep One Actor, the Rest Played by Muppets and if that’s not your idea of podcast gold, I don’t know what is.
Movie Analysis: "Just One of the Guys"
As they revisit Just One of the Guys, the hosts attempt to peel back the layers of this teen comedy; scrutinizing everything from the absurdity of the plot to the bizarre yet endearing performances by the cast. They dive into why Just One of the Guys has to be re-evaluated with a modern lens. Is it a film that accurately describes the turbu...