The ladies recap the inauguration festivities and Trump's first days in office.
Red Scare
The Bell Curve of the Ball
[Music] We have never been already in my life. We are back. We are back. Hello. From Trump's America. Oh yeah, true. We haven't. We did that in us for audio, but then we went to DC. And now we're doing the podcasting. [Laughs] No, fuck. Yeah, they're hard to open. We're dealing with my Trinidadian cigarettes. The plastic is a cheap. Let's try. It's just a different vibe. [Laughs] Same cigs I assume. How are you? What's up all these packages? Okay, I'm a shopping addict. I have a shopping addiction. It's a big one outside. That is a cabinet. To store all the shit that I buy on the line. But I have a problem with it, which is why the box is out there. Because it's missing some parts. Well, I don't know. I'm going to try to get a discount. I've been very good about my returns. You've been making them. Or you've not been shopping. I've been shopping a bit. I was really... The dough and dress that I wore. Gorgeous. It's stressful. Darling. Because I'm a populist. I'm a mid-market. Yeah. [Laughs] But it... We looked so tame compared to... [Laughs] I know. But that's what I wanted to look like I wasn't trying too hard. We're not wearing makeup. I was wearing cotton velvet. I know, but in comparison, yeah. I thought I was going to look bronze. Yeah. I was like, "I can't do it, Anna." I'm going to try. Okay, I'll try. We can't get the package. [Laughs] I'm wasted already, so... [Laughs] But yeah, so I was starving. Mm-hmm. Oh, full disclosure. You were starving yourself before. Before. Fit into the dress. 'Cause the dress only really works if you're a little underweight. 'Cause I had a size-up that looked kind of frumpy and, like, feud-nearly. Because it's the empire waist. It's ladies, you know what I'm talking about. Yeah. Um, so I was kind of frail-maxing. Mm-hmm. But then I was really happy to start eating again. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. I've more worked out. It was a very cute dress. We had boar matching. We were kind of matching. [Laughs] Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Oh, my God. Anna got this bulk and whiskey. [Laughs] Fuck. [Laughs] [Laughs] That's that Albanian. Yeah, it's really good. A gustous flow. It's got a kick set. [Laughs] Mm-hmm. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Sorry. What were we talking about? I have no idea. Um... Oh. You're not drunk. You're sober. I'm sober. Yeah. Cool. Um... I'm just stupid. [Laughs] Oh, yeah. So, I returned to the other... Don't draw. You know, I'm getting it. I'm doing it. Yeah. I bought another dress by, like, Panic Bot. Mm-hmm. A dress at Bloomingdale's that I immediately regretted. Mm-hmm. And got that turned in. Mm-hmm. Just staying on top of his face. [Laughs] Uh... It feels amazing. It does. It feels like making money. Yes. Even though you're technically not. I will confess that I'm a shopping addict, not because I like to get new shit because I actually don't. Like, the new shit is, like, the Laconian proxy for satisfaction. Right. But I do enjoy the return process because it makes me feel incredibly accomplished. Mm-hmm. When I run an errand. Yeah. I told Anna that there's construction going on outside my apartment. It's really annoying to complain about. I'm going to do it anyway. Yeah. It's... Def... It's deafening. It's like... They're doing... They're building, like, a high-rise or something. And so there's just Jack hammering from 8 a.m. until I get started. I know. And it's unbearable to be in my apartment. And I know that it's like God punishing me for saying people need to go to work. Yeah. [Laughs] 'Cause I'm like, damn, I have to... Actually, I can't be in my apartment. Yeah. During banking hours. And I have to find another place to go. I mean, I have a place to go. I'm on a docks. My altar and it location. [Laughs] But it's not always convenient and it's been so cold that I don't want to go around my errands. And it's just been... I really feel like a victim. You know, something is happening to me that is out of my control. You feel like the Isabella Johnny character in Possession. I feel like I'm going crazy. I've had, like, two day long, like, migraine, basically. And I've done the noise canceling headphones. I've done the white noise, but it's like my apartment's shaking. No, you gradually go insane and you don't even realize that you're going insane. This happened to me last year because they were, like, drilling on my street. They tore up the whole street. I remember. But they, unlike your block, which is civilized, mine is not. And they were drilling at all hours of the night because they were trying to get ahead of traffic. Right. So that was unbearable. And I remember being a total Karen, like, running outside and yelling at the construction people. Not yelling. I was such a cock. I was like, I know you boys are just doing your job. Can I get you sandwiches? It's not their fault, but they were like, are you homeless? I feel like John Dutton, the way I don't want this construction to go on. And it's going to go on for over a year. It's going to be years. Yeah. And these Jewish guys, a couple of months ago, these Jewish guys, literally, where Yomachus came into my apartment and took a picture of a window in my hall and said we're going to develop a building here. And I was like, I was a bitch. I was like, how long is that going to take? And they were like, years. And like, left. And I was like, fuck. So I know it's them. Yeah. And it's really their fault. But there's something I can do. I can't be, you know, I have to just, I can move, but I don't want to. So I'm just going to, like, go to the office functionally and maybe it'll be good for me. Mm-hmm. You know. But I love to lie in bed at least until noon, usually. Mm-hmm. So that's my rhythms, like... Oh, shit. [laughs] It's a lot of swords. Mm-hmm. Um, D.C. was a blast. It was fun. It was interesting. I've never really been. Mm-hmm. I went once with the convoys. Yeah. But they just did a show and then I didn't really get to see. What did you do? We just stayed like an Airbnb and then we went to Baltimore to visit Nick's family. We, like, wrote. We, like, did a road trip. Um, and D.C. wasn't just, wasn't really, like, a big stop, I guess. Yeah. Um, but this time I felt like, you know, I didn't really go. It was so cold, but, you know, I saw some stuff. We met some anons. That was the best part, I think, was meeting. And people coming up to me. Putting a face to name. Yeah. Yeah. Lots of young men coming up to me showing me their phones without seeing them or mutuals. Yeah. Some of them I've talked to. Spurgler, acolyte, you know, I, like, looked back in our DMs. I was like, we've been talking since, like, for years. I know. I know. These, even though, like, my internet friends. I know. And, like, we get to, I get to meet them in this, like, yeah. Nice, victorious venue. Am I doxing him if I say that he looks like a beautiful girl? No. He does. Um, yeah, still not sold on, not blondes, not for me, but. Yeah, but you can appreciate it, of course, of course. Yeah. The, um, beauty of a blonde adult male. It was not just Jennick in the least. No. Um, we didn't make it to the Liberty Ball. We tried. We tried. We had wristbands, which were hard to secure. Yeah. I felt so, I really thought, like, we were going to get in there and be. Tucker. Choosing it up with Tucker and Steve and the other Steve and the third Steve. I thought we'd be, like, rubbing shoulders, you know. And instead I learned, like, oh, I'm not a powerful political operative in Washington. No, we're low-beats. I'm like, no, we're plebs. It doesn't. Shout out to the gay guy. Which gay guy? In line who. Oh. Recognized us. He wasn't gay. I think he was. No, he, he has a girlfriend. How do you know? He was there with his girlfriend. No. He was there alone. He was there with his girlfriend. No. The guy we tried to sleep in. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I, I'm with him after and he was, like, my girlfriend. I finally got in. It was a shit show. Wow. I didn't realize. He was a sweet boy. She was very demure to her credit. I didn't realize I thought he was gay. Which is why I intrusibly asked him if we could cut. This was already so way back in the line. Yeah. It was crazy. The lines were like, this is what Auschwitz felt like. Fuck being herded. Yeah. It was like military anti-scale. Yeah. Everywhere. And yeah, so we did the smart thing. I think I just called it quits. Yeah. I wasn't, you know, Vince Vaughn. There was also like three balls. It's all very... Yeah. It's not for us. No. Navigating these bureaucracies. You know? Oh, we saw Michael Tracy. We did. That was crazy. That was awesome. It was great. He was there, you know. People really hate that guy. I don't know why. He's a lovely man. He is. He's crazy. One of the last independent journalists we have. What else? I don't know. I'm like manically drunk. I've been up since 8 a.m. My God, Anna. It's like 11 and we're podcasting. Wait. I mean, do you want to? Are you feeling okay? I'm fine. I can do it. Everybody thinks I'm crazy. I went to my nephew's first birthday in New Jersey. So cute. Went to the Mark Coco Pelley opening at Arena. Went to Baccaro to dinner. And now I'm here podcasting in Trump's America. Yeah. Which seems to be going well. We can talk about that. I wrote down all these notes about Trump's executive orders and first actions in the first couple of days as president. And now it's completely out of mind. I don't remember any of it. I, um, Pete Haggseth. Remember I took a bunch of Adderall to research all these people. Yeah. And completely forgot who, you know, it was like, yeah. Like, I was like, I have to look at mom again. I'm so stupid. I'm so stupid. I didn't bring a book to DC. Okay. And usually I do this neurotic thing where I bring too many books as if I'm going to, like, for the first time in my life, read a whole book and then you have nothing to do. Um, but I like just brought zero books. So all I did was like, do skincare and make up all day. Yeah. I'm like, look at, play chess. But yeah, the executive orders. Um, day one light bulbs. Yes. We're back. Yup. Consumer choice. Mm hmm. In light bulbs. Wait, let's pull up the executive orders. Um, I was honestly basically a single issue voter. The light bulbs. I wanted the incandescent bulbs back. And they're back. And they're back. And I, he delivered. Yeah. Well, okay. My big question was how binding are the executive orders? Uh, I think it varies. Well, they're apparently, so they're in effect until they're overturned by the next democratic administration or until they're challenged in court. Which like they're already getting sued. Yeah. Yeah. The big one is like the birth rate citizenship, which is already being challenged. Right. What does that mean? Like if you were born here, you're a citizen? Yes. So historically, if like people would come here just to have children so that they could be citizens. Yeah. I mean, that one seems. And now that's over for the time being. I think if you were born on American soil, you kind of aren't American. Yeah. But like, that's unfair because people deliberately come here so that they can have kids born on American soil so that they can do the chain migration. I mean, I'm sure other countries do that. But everybody wants to be born in America. It'd be cool to go have a baby in Paris and then they're French. Well, they probably don't even have that. Let me look that. Yeah. Let me get a fact checker on this. I feel like I'm in Coke. I understand how it's like a technicality that can be exploited. But it seems like when that is like kind of gamified enough that, you know, well, I think the idea is that the legal process is sort of baked into the cake because they want the executive order to be challenged. So it goes all the way up to the Supreme Court and then they can test it. And if the court, which is conservative now votes in your favor, then that's codified into law. Yeah. You have to have at least one French parent. But then they have, if they're born to foreign parents, they may be eligible if they live their work. So they have a version of it, but you have to kind of live there. Yeah. It's not as easy, I guess, as it is here. Yeah. Whatever. But now this is all up in the air. TikTok is no longer banned, he signed an executive order that lifts the ban for 75 days. And it seems like what they're going to try to do, the Chinese company is called ByteDance. Trump has said he wants 50/50 equity in the company to have an American basically. Well, they want to find an American firm that will acquire TikTok, essentially. They're not going to be able to fully acquire it, but that's what they're kind of negotiating is like they can mitigate the Chinese mind control by getting more shares, at least of the company. But the technology itself is, I don't think China's going to hand it over, but now people are, so it went dark on the 19th and then like Trump signed the order, it's back up. But people can't like redownload it or update the software. And some people on it are complaining that they're being censored. How so? Like if they post about Luigi or Palestine, that the algorithm is like not promoting their videos that I use, so they're claiming that there's a political agenda with the new TikTok. Okay. So the big ones were he declassified the JFK and MLK files. He ended birthright citizenship, he introduced a suite of other immigration orders that declared a national emergency at the southern border. Halted refugee admissions revived the remain in Mexico policy, which forces asylum seekers to stay in Mexico for their asylum hearings. He withdrew from the World Health Organization, the Paris Climate Accord. He recognized that there were only two sexes. He expanded American energy production. He obviously part in the Jan Sixers. This is from Weibo regarding the birthright citizenship issue. The US government will no longer recognize the citizenship of children born in the United States to immigrants who lack legal status, according to an order Trump signed Monday. It also borrows birthright citizenship for children born to people in temporary work student and tourist visas, the order which is expected to face legal scrutiny reinterprets the words and subject to the jurisdiction thereof in the 14th Amendment of the US Constitution blah blah blah, which grants citizenship to nearly all people born on the US soil to exclude babies born to parents legally in the country. That sounds fair. If your parents are here illegally and you're born on US soil, it seems unfair that you should automatically become a citizen. I guess so. But if you have like a Visa or green card status, then I think you're good. Yeah, I think you're fine. But yeah, if you're well, you saw the video of the Haitian guy getting arrested and saying I'm not going back to hate buck Trump Biden forever and thank you Barack Obama for everything you did for me. He's so scary and angry in the car and stuff and he has 17 criminal convictions. And then all these other people, I guess I don't understand how they weren't arrested sooner. Yeah. I don't know. Like, is that, is that, is it really that easy? To come here? No, to sign like an executive order that like, because it's not like, it seems it's happening so quickly, yeah, that they just know exactly where to find these like criminal aliens and deport them. Yeah. And like, we knew they'll pull time, obviously. Remember like Trump's famous line that they're just like releasing them from prisons and mental institutions, which I thought was like a dramatization and embellishment, but maybe it's not. I mean, 17, I know. And like you watch all those videos of like ice, right, rounding up illegals in Boston and they're like. MS 13 gay members, they're like, it's like, they're arresting people that's like, why was there? MS 13 gay member here convicted of crimes for so long, because Brandon said, okay, and they're all like serial rapists or armed robbers or cartel members. I mean, that's, I feel like boomed out the way I can't like believe this. I know. And like their, their explicit order was to target people with criminal records first, which is like, how, how are they doing that? It's not like they have a database of people who are here illegally who have criminal records because they're here illegally. So I guess they do, I guess they have, do have a database since they've been arrested. Or they're just like released, but not. Yeah. And how are there so many like criminal illegals walking the streets of cities like Boston? And how has it been so easy to block them up the whole time? I don't know, this is this is way over my head. Yeah. Carolyn Levitt, who's like the new Trump press secretary, like the new cute blonde, said that the Trump administration arrested 538 illegal immigrant criminals, including a suspected terrorist for members of the trend El Arago gang and several illegals convicted of sex crimes against minors, like this was all in the first couple of days. Like, how is that possible? It's crazy. I really mean, I mean, real talk and it's like going to mean it's annoying thing to say. But I don't, and I actually don't know her status, but I don't want my maid deported. And I don't want to find a man that's not an illegal immigrant. Why? Do you want me to charge more? Yeah. And like, probably not work as hard. Yeah. She's going to be like. And we can't just have spoiled. Yeah. You know, I can't just, well, and also not to air out the passage boys, but I feel like all the bartenders that night were probably illegals. I mean, I doubt it at the well, no, definitely, like all service workers are illegal immigrants. All? I mean, not all, but like, okay, I'm a service girl, like back in the day when I was working restaurants, everybody in the kitchen was illegal. I feel like the Watergate hotel, you know, you have to pay tax, I don't know, it's not that easy to just hire illegal people to work at like a business. That's why they do, you know, like independent contract work through DoorDash or, you know, our maids and nannies and stuff like this. Mm hmm. I mean, I might be wrong. No. I think they all are like seriously illegal, and I don't know how they stay a step ahead of the law. Well, they weren't getting deported in mass before, but well, they're still not. It seems like it's a good, it's good to start with the, with the crems. Get the crems out of here. They tried to send two planes to Columbia. Do you hear about that? No. Columbia said no. Mm hmm. Wait, I'll read you the Trump post. They also have like the collateral role. So now when ICE raids like a residence where a criminal is suspected of living, they'll also round up any other illegal that they find in the vicinity and send them back to. Well, sure. So, uh, I was just informed, this is Donald Trump, that two repatriation flights from the United States with a large number of legal criminals were not allowed to land in Columbia. This order was given by Columbia's socialist president Gustavo Patro, who is already very unpopular amongst his people. Patro's denial of these flights has jeopardized the national security and public safety of the United States. So I have directed my administration to immediately take the following urgent and decisive retaliatory measures. 25% tariffs on all goods coming into the United States. In one week, the 25% tariffs will be raised to 50% and then travel bans, blah, blah. AOC, quote, tweeted it and said to punish Columbia, Trump is about to make every American pay even more for coffee. Remember, we pay the tariffs, not Columbia. Trump is all about making inflation worse for working class Americans, not better. He's lining the pockets of himself in the billionaire class. That's true. While we do pay the tariffs, but we can get coffee from other places. That's a free market, baby. And Columbia is going to fall in line. They got to take them back. Yeah. Or they get dumped in Mexico. Like where do they go? I guess they're back here in some of this facility. Yeah. Yeah, it's very unclear how this is all going to work and practice down the line because all this stuff takes time. And they were saying if a country is cooperative, they can have them back in a number of days. But if it's not, it'll take weeks, if not months. Well, they don't want them back. It seems to me the issue is that they want it to take as long as possible, but tariffs are big. It seems like there's going to be a big motif for Trump. Which is above my pay. No, I'm obviously not an economist, but it does seem to me that tariffs are a pretty effective way of a country like Columbia. Their main ex putting tariffs on them will harm their economy so they will cooperate. Yes. Real politic. But then people were saying I was retarded and that I should look up with the president of Columbia actually said and apparently it's because they brought them in military planes which violated some, he's splitting hairs though. Yeah. He knows. Come on. Wait, explain this. Trump is making it seem like he just says that he doesn't want them, but actually my understanding is that Trump violated some agreement they had by bringing them over in military planes which they're not supposed to do. They're supposed to go in civilian flights. Or I don't know, there's some, it's, you know, I mean, what are your options? It doesn't, it's whatever he's paid rose on about seems like beside the point and the point is like these you borrow from your country and I came over here. Yeah. Criminally. Yeah. So they're crims. So you have to take them back. Yeah. We can't be responsible if you're criminals. Yeah. No, a lot of people were mad at me when I made my factory farming tweet. Oh my God. So I really was like, this is people get mad at Anna for anything, but for saying she's not. Animal cruelty. Yes. But they were saying that like, oh, you care more about like the livelihood of like cows and pigs over like human beings, which is not a true, but like the human beings that we're talking about, I feel for them like there was that viral video of that lady in Mexico, sobbing hysterically because her asylum hearing was canceled. And like I feel for that lady, I don't like to see anybody crying and suffering and going through it, but I find the whole premise of asylum hearings to be questionable in the first place because when you hear asylum, you think like, oh, people are being like repressed and threatened in their home country, which may be true by the way, but there's no way of like guaranteeing that. And a lot of people are obviously gaming the system and claiming asylum because they want to come over here for economic reasons. My parents didn't do this, but they were told by a Russian Jewish lawyer, when we came to this country, that we could get asylum to stay here by saying we were Jewish. So you are Jewish, but I think maybe I'm like misremembering this, but my mom didn't want to. That's noble. Yeah, like had some anxiety about, yeah, they had other avenues, but yeah, you could just say there's cartel violence, blah, blah, blah. But I think in the future, in the next couple of days, weeks, months, there will be a lot of immigration propaganda porn of women and children crying, being separated, seemingly being abused, which is horrific to see, but that's how they get you to accept the premise of unlimited immigration, and it's completely out of it, manic wasted, but you can't have a nation if you just fling open the doors and let anybody in, obviously, of course. No, JD Vance just did a good job on some broad, wasn't it really him, about the immigration staff and saying that these people have been vetted, and he was saying they haven't been vetted accurately, because one of these people who have been allegedly vetted ended up conspiring against, you know, commit terrorism, and then she tried to say that it wasn't clear if he was radicalized after he got here or not, she was trying to make a case for the vetting process, which she was saying needed to be revamped, which would include something like asylum where you would be vetted, and like, I mean, should things function the way they're supposed to? Yeah, like, if a drug cartel is making your life unbearable, you can come to this country and be vetted and show that you will be a contributing assimilated member of society and be allowed here, that's not off the table. But yeah, but the issue is everything is so obviously broken because there's total mess up. Like mayhem, like, crumbs beyond it. And all the cartels that are threatening you over there here anyway, they're like running the streets, taking over entire apartment blocks. If you have, I mean, that's what Kelli did, is if you have a face tattoo, you go to jail. Yeah, because that's what the gangs do to initiate a dare counselor now. Like, if someone tells you you have a face tattoo, don't do it. But yeah, basically, yeah, if you have a ton of scary tattoos and, you know, look like a fucked up, scary guy, then you're probably going to commit some crimes. And we can't, we can't just take, you know, yeah. But yeah, I'm surprised there wasn't, there hasn't been more kind of trauma porn like that already. Like everything I've seen, like the guy saying, I'm not going back to Haiti. Thank you, Barack Obama. I'm like, this is like propaganda for the right. This is nuts. I know. But eventually, sure, I'm can project that there would be like, over corrections. What was that boy's name? Emilio Gonzalez. Oh, Elion Gonzalez. Yeah. There's going to be a lot of that in the future. But we'll see. I mean, it's really, it's, it'll just be like a photo of like Lenny and me getting deported. Back to our China town. They say Trump's done more in 100 hours than any president has done in 100 days. He's signed more executive orders than any president in history, the second term. Anna and I were when we decided basically not to try and go to the inauguration ball. We went to like a hotel bar where they were showing him signing executive orders and it was awesome. And everyone at the bar said cheering when Baron came on screen. And there was a black lady who kept going, that's that swag. He got that presidential swag. But it was very like a door. I thought I found it very adorable. Yeah. He seemed so pleased with himself. And we started tossing the pens. When he tossed the pens, I'm like, I do feel blissful. Like I don't care who Pete, Pete Hegseff is. I like don't really use coffee. He's going to be more expensive. I don't believe you. We're all fighting for a right to just like not care about politics as much anymore. Yeah, exactly. And we can all just enjoy which is also a cope and alive because everybody's so addicted to talking about politics. But like if that like well ever dried up, we'd be miserable. Because what would we do? We'd have to go to like art shows and write poems and be like downtown denizens like we used to be. I mean, I think it's possible. I think, you know, when Trump said we're going to get tired of winning, I'm like, yeah, I'm like, okay. I feel like everything's going according to plan. And I don't have to worry. I worry about it. Yeah, the gender one was a good one too. He said that at the inauguration. What in his speech that there was only going to be two genders from now on? Yeah. And so he so he directed the Bureau of Prisons to ensure that no federal funds are expended for any medical procedure, treatment or drug for the purpose of conforming an inmate's appearance to that of the opposite sex. So he put the Kai Bosch on doing the transgender legal I mean, I would even expand that to say that like no federal funds, no taxpayer dollars should ever go to any gender affirming care for minors. For anyone for anyone. Yeah, I like I'm not against people medically transitioning. Should they so choose? Yeah, they come to that decision on their own. That would be like a very tiny, tiny fringe minority of people. But if you come to that conclusion yourself, you should probably be made to pay for that kind of elective medicine and surgery on your own. It's like getting plastic surgery. It's like, Oh, I want to be hotter and thinner. I'm going to get a BBL and like lip injection. It's not it's not fair that you can get facial feminization surgery. And I can't is just not like, yeah, it's it's you can't I can't just identify as having like huge tits. Yeah. And go on Medicaid and try and get the government. I'm identifying as blonde now, you have to pay pay for my like hair appointments for the rest of my life. Mm hmm. No, it's a boutique issue. It's a boutique procedure. Yeah. But the idea that like taxpayers should be facing legal, rare and expensive. Yes. But like the fact that like any taxpayer should ever and any ambient indirect way have to pay for the transgender operations of like convicted felons in prison is absurd and monstrous. And I think he moved to remove like transgender and made some opposite sex prisons. I mean, that'll have some ugly consequences for sure. But in terms of paying for felons, surgeries. Yeah, I really think we don't need to do that. Yeah. He also signed some executive orders about the federal bureaucracy and DI programs. So he ordered federal workers to cease remote work and come back to the office. He issued a freeze on federal hiring with the exception of military personnel and jobs related to, quote, immigration enforcement, national security or public safety. And he's also demanding the elimination of government diversity programs. This includes determination of all federal offices and positions related to diversity, equity and inclusion, as well as environmental justice. The order also directs his administration to review which federal contractors have provided DI training materials to federal workers and which federal funding grantees have been given funds to advance DI and environmental justice. That's the kind of thing I feel like, well, the lawsuits will deal with the civil rights act, right? Yeah. The law fair will pertain to that and will be, you know, it'll jam up the gears for sure. Yeah, like one of the key pieces was rescinding the Lyndon B. Johnson 1965 executive order 11246, which is what established affirmative action as the law of the land. What? Yeah. Lyndon B. Johnson did that? Yes. Yeah. After they took out Jamie. Yeah. Yeah. We don't know. We, the files haven't been declassified yet. For what? Per JFK. I'm okay. Are okay. Okay. Like that, I'm like the least interested in. I think that that's probably like a point of curiosity for the American public, but I don't really care. I'm intrigued. I think it will be more banal than we think. Yeah. But we deserve to know. But it's funny because if you think about it, I know that we love to hate Richard Hannonia for being a pazuzu-like troll. I know we love to make fun of Chris Rufo for telling boys to go work at Panda Express when he hired a porn star. He knows what he did. Yeah. But I feel like they, in a weird way, this is their impact. I know that sounds crazy and far-fetched. Well, Rufo, you know, Rufo's been working at the grassroots level. He seems like he's actually really created a lot of political momentum and force for these sorts of things. Yeah. He has obviously been influential. Yeah. He was one of the first activists to be openly, aggressively anti-racism and anti-gender ideology. Yeah. But I feel like in a weird backhanded way, it was Hannonia who kind of put him up to it. How so? Because back in the day, back in the day, like a year or two ago, Hannonia was a real loud, vociferous critic of civil rights law. He wrote a book about it. He had a podcast with this law, a legal scholar, Gail Heria, who had that great line that under civil rights law, everything is presumptively illegal. Like anything can be seen as a source of discrimination. And of course, that's contingent on who is in power. So if like the left, if liberals are in power, they will discriminate against white men basically and promote the causes of like minorities, women, that sort of thing. So I think that was really like that was the beginning of like, I feel like somebody in Trump's administration was listening to those two guys. Yeah. I mean, I don't follow Hannonia enough to know. But Rupo, like he was, he's in Florida, right? No, he's like on the West Coast, California. Bay Area, I want to say. I remember when he came on the show, he was saying he had tangible, you know, he was like through school districts and stuff. He was doing like, Paul, he was doing politics, which like, Hannonia, is he, is that what he's doing? Yeah, in a weird backhanded way. And it's funny, because neither of those guys is like explicitly pro-Trump. Like, I feel like a Rufo until very recently was a desantoid. And at that time, well, Hannonia spent the entire election counter signaling Trump and like, caping for Kamala and like a performative trolling way. Yeah, yeah. Rufo just had an op-ed in the New York Post about what, about how the leftist mobs have failed to silence him. And I didn't really read it, to be honest. No, but yeah, he's doing his thing though. I agree. Yeah. I remember like, I think in 2022 or 2023, he laid out this whole like three-part blueprint slash wish list for how to counteract anti-racism. I think in pragmatically, yes. But spiritually, you know, people don't like the woke crap. Like, yeah, it just, it's, it all kind of, what's the word I'm looking for? I'm doing a gesture with my name. Dubtown? Yeah. It all kind of, you know, it's people, it's the people really are sick of DEI. Yeah, yeah, but Rufo provided an intellectual lineage for the rise of wokeness in his book. And then Hanania provided a legal lineage for the rise of wokeness in his book, which comes from Christopher Caldwell, obviously, and it comes down to the Civil Rights Act, which like, basically the argument is like, the whole premise of the Civil Rights Act is that it wants to put an end to discrimination of any kind. But the way that it played out in practice, it ended up being the opposite of its stated intentions, because it basically allowed and, in fact, encouraged discrimination against white people, specifically white men. Well, Rufo's thing is because it was like, through March through the institution. Yeah. It was like, the Maoism in the university system kind of like, trickled down into politics. Yeah. I have a schizophrenic friend who thinks this is not the case, and that wokeism was actually the crash of this CIA, and it's actually like many levels. It's more complicated, which I'm open to, but I haven't done the research. I wouldn't be surprised. Yeah. Yeah. So, okay, so this was Rufo's agenda. First, you have to outlaw affirmative action and racial preferences, starting with the Lyndon B. Johnson order. Then you have to eliminate disparate impact, which has entrenched the doctrine that disparate group outcomes are de facto evidence of racial discrimination, which he calls the preposter as standard, since equal rights necessarily mean unequal outcomes. Wow. And like the presence of bias or discrimination cannot be inferred working backwards from outcomes, but must proceed from like concrete, provable instances of like malice or animus, right? Which can be ascertained through a legal process. And then last but not least, the final item on his wishlist was to abolish the DI bureaucracies, which openly discriminate against disfavored racial groups, imposed ideological orthodoxies on American citizens, and restrict freedoms of speech and association. So, so far, Trump is like two for three on those executive orders. I mean, all of this might be legally challenged, but it's at least going for it. Well, it definitely will be, but the right the issue I feel is that like with affirmative action, with these sort of like racialized grouping, they just didn't just anyone who is like non white is oppressed was this was like the whole premise of like stop Asian hate, you know, and the way that like a lot of like, Indian people tried to steal clout from black people. And that's why they came up with like BIPOC because POC was too wide of a term. And then they said BIPOC, okay, so like black indigenous, but then it's like, what is black mean, you know, and then okay, descendant of slaves, but then like you could basically like African and Caribbean immigrants started piggybacking also stealing baller from foundational black Americans. But there isn't even, you know, there are some people are more foundation black American than others. And like the you can't really just make it about like slave ancestry. Cause there's probably like white people who have like some slave ancestry, like white hat, you know, it's like, it's all such a crossed Appalachia, you know, there's people with missing, you know, the oppression Olympics. Yeah, we're just a flop. Yeah, but the idea that like the whole concept of like disparate impact, the fact that you can look at outcomes and be like this group is underperforming. According to these standards, they have like lower literacy, higher crime rates. And this is de facto evidence of discrimination is preposterous. It's crazy. Well, because the old love, because the alternative is just racist. Yeah, it's bleak and unflattering. But it's a mix. Yeah, it's a mix. But you can't tailor policy. No, to work backward from outcomes. Yeah. I think it was like, I think Nick fund does the saying that like the concept of colorblind meritocracy, which the Trump administration is trying to enforce now is actually anti white and anti American. Yeah. But of course, as everybody implicitly understands, it is the polite and civil way of acknowledging group disparity. Right. But then it privileges non white, well, it privileges in groups, well, privileges Asians. Yeah. But that's with you defined merit based on like quantitative, you know, like on test scores and stuff like that. And if you want to, you know, get racial with no, it's just it's always going to be imperfect. Yeah. Unless you have like over white supremacist policies, which are not viable or preferable for me. I mean, I think like some people would argue that colorblind meritocracy is white supremacists. Why when it privileges Asians? Well, because white people end up performing better than blacks and Hispanics. So not as good as Asians, but everybody agrees to ignore Asians because we are not in the tech sector. Yeah. That's the thing. I mean, that's the gist of Bannon's speech. Yeah. At the passage press ball, you know, he like, read the room, because he's so gracious. But like, he's really waging a war against like a tech oligarchy, which is now terminology that like Biden adopted in his like farewell speech and stuff. But he isn't advocating for colorblind meritocracy because he understands that like in like tech and academia, whites will be outperformed. Yeah, sure. And just because we don't want like being an American isn't about having the highest test scores or doing the most homework or like defining merit so narrowly, isn't actually like potentially good for America. I don't know. Now I'm drunk. Do I sound crazy? This is like the most manic and unstable episode ever. Yeah, we feel like I'm yeah. But I guess the argument is that all these DEI woke programs that funnel money into underprivileged minorities are basically unconstitutional because they actually go against the stated premise of civil rights law, which is a lack of discrimination, is in a way they end up in it like a back ass backwards way, they end up discriminating against white people. But they're also like in practice, just like horribly counterproductive, because yes, they disadvantage white people. They don't particularly help minorities at the end of the day. They don't elevate minority communities. Not real minorities. And they create a jobs program for bureaucrats and are just a huge time sink and money suck and are like evil across the board. And so we got planes falling out the sky because they don't let white men fly. I mean, they basically like just lead to bloated and distortionary spending. Like that's my main argument for why they have to go. Yeah, it's not like underprivileged minorities in the inner city are really truly benefiting from any of these programs in the long run. In the short run, sure, maybe they're getting like little kickbacks and perks and amenities. American born Indian person, you know, being like, I they picked on me when I brought my tikka masala to school and like blah, blah. And it's like, you are from like a Brahmin cast. Like you're not underprivileged, but you're a pre technically a POC, or people who are technically from POC backgrounds, can steal valor, can piggyback on the plate of native minorities, blacks and teepee Indians, not slurpee Indians, and can throw their lot in with that plate, which is why like the stop Asian hate thing was such a big deal. That was the in high, it shocked me then, but in hindsight, I really am like, I can't believe they really had it was like in retrospect, it was like six figure Chinese and Korean and Indian girl bosses. Yeah, like throwing their chips in with the voices of the other people getting pushed on the tracks by, like, black people, guys. No, I mean, how many white people did hate crimes against Asian people? Yes. And even when I when I hate crime against an Asian person occurred, and it was fully disambiguated that it was at the hands of some like black teen, the story, the the narrative went, well, this is still evidence of white supremacy, because Trump said kung fu. Yeah. Yeah. And everyone is suffering from false consciousness. Yeah. It's crazy. I mean, it's it feels good. Yeah. Should we talk about the inauguration itself? Yes. Which we also did not go to. No. But that's it was moved indoors to the Arctic chill. And then we were told by that nice lady at the convention center that even if we did go, we'd still be watching it on a screen. Yes. So we all opted to watch it alone a screen from us in our hotel room. I cracked a Diet Coke the moment. Yeah. It started. And that was beautiful. I had a really, I had, I love the battle him of the Republic, gory gory hallelujah, which Trump also danced to the Elvis kind of cover. It was a cover of the Elvis kind of cover of the battle in the Republic. But they played they sang the full one at the inauguration. And they there's a neutered version of it where they say they're talking about Christ and how he died to make men holy. So we should die to make men free. Mm hmm. And in the neutered version, they say we live to make men free. But at the inauguration, they saying died to make men free. Yeah. Which I thought was beautiful. I really, I got, it was so emotional. The black preacher. Oh yeah. He was good. Free at last. So yeah. It was awesome. It was like leprechaun in the hood. Trump told him he's your star. Mm hmm. He was clearly moved. He came and gave him a hug to your star. When you're a star, they let you do it. Yeah. He's a free at last. And the black preacher is kind of a bad boy. Is he? Yeah. Apparently he had a rap sheet. Just like him. Okay. Yeah. He was like, it's like J.C. Mm hmm. He used to be a drug dealer. Very cool. Well, I remember he's a two-bit preacher. He's a one book. I mean, I don't know if it's one or two is better. But he's, he's of the inauguration. Yeah. Cardinal Dolan led the invocation, which they had all the religious leaders though. I've seen Cardinal Dolan twice. Okay. At the Byzantine Catholics assembly and the young Catholic professionals gala. So I'm like, this guy's coming out. I was like, come on. Dolan. That's so boring. Bring that Skitzo Orthodox guy out from the other Republicans class. Bring some freak-based Orthodox. That's like, I was really hoping you'd do something. Honestly, I think it should have been the Byzantine Catholic priest who blessed Trump before the assassination attempt. Interesting. Bald. Isn't he Catholic? Just like Dan Allegretto should have led the invocation. But whatever, Dolan, let him have it. Well, they have to like wheel every guy from every denomination. Oh, I know. But the first, who leads the invocation? Yeah. It does matter. And then the next day, they had the prayer breakfast for that woke lady. Oh, yeah, the late. Yeah. The lesbian bishop. I'm doing air quotes. Because of course, not only Anglicans, not priests or bishops, but women are absolutely definitely not. Never been with the churchtime. Completely heretical. I know, Dasha is a non-religious secular person. I have no excuse to opine on this, but my deepest instinct is that women should not serve as top clergy. They shouldn't be like I even have a problem at all. Yes, they should be not nuns. Does that count? That's not they're not clergy. They're monastics. Okay. They're like monks. I don't know why I can't explain or articulate this, but I don't think that women should be shepherding flocks of parishioners. It's not I even take a bridge when there's it's not that it's I don't even think it should be controversial to say. It's never ever been with the church as it just feels wrong. Of course, of course, I even have like kind of a problem with female rabbis. Definitely. And I don't even care about their religion, but sure. Yeah, that's they're all like reform. Yeah. There's no ortho. I mean, actually, I don't know, but um, no, no, no, no, there will never many saints have said that if when feet if there's women in the priesthood, this religion is deformed. Like this is wrong. It's it's people. It's in and she had annoying, please have mercy on blah, blah, blah. Lots of people tagging me being like for real. I'm like, this is like a Catholic person. Um, yeah, Catholic never. I mean, never say never. Yeah, but Biden became a Freemason. What does that mean? Um, he joined, he was like, greeted into a Masonic lodge. Okay. Um, which is a pretty explicitly and basically he's excommunicated from the Catholic church. Okay. There's no formal decree, but joining a fraternal order like the masons, uh, does technically excommunicate you from the Catholic church. Um, because they have a long history of, uh, being anti-Catholic and they're a, you know, they believe in, they don't believe in God. And they've been like reason and men and like fraternity and the grouping together and blah, blah. I don't know exactly what the masons are about or what they're up to now, but it's just a crazy thing to do at the end of your life. Yeah. To sign a pact with the devil. Yeah. Oh, no, we already knew he had done that, but yeah, that is kind of crazy. It's nuts. And that picture with a blackout with the top hat is so crazy. Um, I mean, they're a very shadowy organization. So I don't know how much power they even wield. Yeah. I get the feeling that not much now. So it's even weirder. The free masons seem like an organization that like somebody like Sean McCarthy would be spurging and spiraling about. I mean, they've been, they've been powerful. They've wielded a lot of power. Some people think they've infiltrated the Catholic church and they've wanted to destroy the Catholic church for a long time because they're their main kind of rivals. And so for a Catholic president to go. I'm not convinced. I feel like the Catholic church does a lot of self destruction. Does it really need help? That's because the free masons infiltrated and the Jews. That's why. But when I look at these like high appointed like top tier religious figures, I'm just like, oh, you guys are more corrupt than politicians. There's like an HBO series about you. Like every single priest, reverend, deacon, whatever. Well, Vance made this point on his TV interview with some broad where she asked him about the immigration policy as a Catholic because the pope, the woke pope said, you can't send him back. Yeah. And he said, let me see. I have the quote here. Nick Fuentes talks about this. He does. He sure does. I was drunk last night looking at those streams. Yeah. Well, he was making the point that, yes, the Catholic church is interested in increasing its numbers. And therefore, it's supremacy in the world. But that is not mutually exclusive of having a white ethno state. I wasn't really following. I had a pounding headache. It's not so much about having the white ethno state. Well, Vance said the US conference of Catholic bishops needs to look in the mirror a little bit and recognize that when they receive more than 100 million to resettle illegal immigrants, are they worried about humanitarian concerns or are they worried about their bottom line? Yep. Yeah. Which was very, very, very smart of him to not, you know, it's not about Rome. It's those like, you know, jurisdictions within a massive hierarchy. And yeah, when they say stuff like that, it's easy. Yeah, there is like an innate conflict between the Catholic church and the US of A. There has to be, right? Because they're loyal to Rome. Well, they're loyal to themselves. They want to increase their numbers, increase their power while they're losing to the evangelicals, to the Pentecostals. That's like the big, you know, the prots are making a lot of progress in the subcontinent. It was what? In like Africa and the dark continent. But anyway, well said. By Vance, yeah, unfortunately Biden is, I've paired it, I looked this up in my research today because I've often parroted the fact that Madonna was the last person to be excommunicated by the Catholic church, which is not true. And it turns out it's like her, she said in interviews that she's been excommunicated. Oh, okay. Three times. Which isn't even possible. Yeah, this is her like bullshit, still love, narrativeization. But she like they, yeah, spoke out against like Papa, don't preach and her, the, you know, and JP to encourage people to boycott her concert. They've spoken out against her, like Andre Serrano, Piss Christ antics. Yeah, but she's never been formally the last having the Catholic church. The last like 15 people who have been excommunicated. It's been very like, um, judicial, like, you know, I think the last one like schism didn't some way and refused to acknowledge the authority of blah, blah, it's like, it's very young. But Donna isn't one of them. And I don't know if Biden will be formally excommunicated in any way, but spiritually, he's no longer part of the mystical body, which is crazy. If I was a lifelong Catholic, who was as bad as Joe Biden, I'd end of my life. You know, I'd be like, I'd be going confession daily. Did he actually become a Freemason or is this like, also like a meme? No, I think he did. Okay. Maybe not like of the 30th, third order, like Harry Truman, who dropped the bomb on Nagasaki, but there have been presidents who have been Freemasons before. Yeah. But he like, I don't know in what capacity, but you're not, you're not allowed. It's her reticle, which automatically excluding it. You know, it's not like having sex or an abortion where you've committed a sin, you know, it's like, it's a grave, like, you've separated yourself from, yeah, the church. Yeah. Big mistake. Maybe he's going to confession. Maybe he didn't mean it. I don't know. I can't speak. This is way over my head. Anyway, anyway, doesn't matter. Melania's our second Catholic, her lady for Jackie Oh. Oh, yeah. Should we talk about her fits? Yeah. Sure. The Carmen San Diego fit. The ribbon fit. Yeah. A ragged bone puffer with the skinny jeans and aviator glasses. And then the black hat at the Palisades press conference. Or she's out silently. I think Amanda for teeny had a good take. Or she said she's, I think this was her. She said that she's like veiling herself because she's been so mistreated by the media that she's like kind of doing this like mob boss, like, I don't give you access. Yeah, I can't. You know, she's hiding a bit, but she is valid. She's justified because of how badly she was treated before. And they tried to kill her husband. And, you know, she's, I don't, I didn't love the Carmen San Diego. You didn't love what? I didn't love the hat. Yeah, it's not, not my fav either. The hamburger. Yeah. It's giving Paddington. Yeah. But it was, you know, yeah, powerful statement and steer. Yeah, I saw some people like skinny jeans are bad. And I was like, what are you? That's her job. It's to dictate trends. And that's a horrible outfit. It was. Yeah. It really grinded my gears. That's not my favorite. I know. Bring back the, I don't care. I want to see Melania only wear like Montclair, like, Dragonbone is a little two down market for her. Yeah, it was the Dragonbone puffer. Come on. She's a populist, just like me. Yeah. She's wearing dough in. Yeah. I guess she did wear Zara. That was the, I don't share. Yeah. She just like us real. She mixes high and low. When they go low, we mix high and low. You know, obviously I'm a huge fan of her. Me too. Yeah. And I think she's, when we saw her at the MSG rally, I thought she had like a, ethereal, like she was like, flow. The way she walked was like, she was, you know, beautiful. Yeah. I mean, okay. Like, Melania looks amazing all the time because she's a literal supermodel and she's like six foot tall and has like beautiful flowing golden locks. Nice. I am Bray. She can't, I can acknowledge that she looks great in her fits, but I can't relate to her style at all. No. She, and they were doing the 2016, she wore the kind of like baby blue Jackie outfit. Yeah. And I think it's cool that she's you know, doing her own kind of hard edged thing. I'm looking forward to her Christmas decoration. Me too. Which she was criticized for. But yeah, I bet she has a lot of like, frustrations with media scrutiny. So it makes sense that she is. I'm sure. Or maybe she just doesn't care. There's this whole like lore on social media about how she's like a Slavic ice queen. And I don't think she's like bitchy and inaccessible. But I don't think that that's the case at all. I think that like a lot of, first of all, she's not Slavic. I have to be an annoying pedantic clarifier. She's from a Slavic country, but she's got cheer. She's Germanic. I hate to hear that, Anna. It's true. I think that's her like main ethnic background. Maybe she has some Slavic admixture. But yes, she, okay, let's, let's set that all aside and say that she's like an honorary Slav because she hails from a Slavic nation. And she was clearly raised in a Slavic Soviet culture. Yeah. Just like Slavojjiges. Yes. But she's, she's obviously a somewhat shy and diffident person, which reads to effusive and extroverted Americans as bitchy and aloof. Right. I agree. I wouldn't read into it too much. Well, I don't think it's like a posture she adopts for the media necessarily. I think that that's her like innate character. And it's funny because she's been billed historically as like a whore, a call girl, an escort or whatever. And maybe she even did that at some point as a profession. And I wouldn't hold it against her. But like many women from that part of the world, such as Martha Stewart, she is basically kind of awkward and rigid. Yeah. But I think in 2016, she was like kind of playing the, I do think she is aware of her presentation. She has to be. Maybe now, but. And she was trying, in 2016, she was like, I think trying, I think you're right, she is like naturally introverted and discreet. Yeah. And in 2016, she was like trying to kind of play the part. And you know, and she got ripped apart and called a whore and ice queen and all this like roosophonic stuff. Yeah. And so now she's just playing, she's holding her cards like close to the chest. She's not going to let them get like a shot of her with her eyes exposed, which I think is cool. Yeah. It's kind of Kanye to like obscure your appearance in a non-confrontational way. Like she's not going to wear that. I don't care. Do you park up again? That was a different era where she like had the innocence and good faith to wear something she got at Zara. Yeah. And then get ripped apart for it. And so now she is going to be a little more meticulous, but she's going to be a little more unavailable, which is her right. Yeah. And when people are like, oh, she, she looks like mean and difficult. She's just like unemotive and poker faced, which is like a defensive. Yeah. Posture. Yeah. That she has because she doesn't want to, you know. And there are moments that you can catch in the media of her being like relaxed and smiley. Yeah. The young videos of Barron and her. Yeah. She's adorable. I saw that she was obviously like a totally different person in private. Of course. Yeah. And there are some people who are like, what you see is what you get. And those people are usually American. Yeah. So I don't know. I'm excited for her to be back. I've on co-war that like Audrey Hepburn. Yeah. Like a recreation of it. Yeah. Oh, well, I wanted to talk about Lauren Sanchez because people were really like trashing her for dressing like a slut at inauguration because she had the white blazer with like the bustier underneath. And Sock was like the exposed bra, like a gla Dinger, bro. I did not find that to be a unreasonable amount of cleavage. It was pretty tame for Lauren Sanchez. Yeah. She clearly doesn't care. Yeah. And I read the friend of the pod, Naomi Fry's in the New Yorker where I learned about the hem length index. Okay. That apparently when the economy is doing well, women's skirts get shorter. And when the economy is not doing so, they get longer. Interesting. And that's the way of like, I read some article in Forbes. It's like one of the markers of like a recession. But she was making kind of a flimsy case that tits are bad. It was a little, you know, it was all over the place. But I did learn something which was nice. Hard, bad, great big tits. But I just think, you know, you're going to have these tech guys. Great, hard tits. Yeah. You know, you're going to have Bezos, he's going to bring Lauren Sanchez, and she's going to just like a whore. What do you want? I don't know why. But a blazer on. Yes. Exactly. She she hid her shoulders. She look, she was at a trad girl, E summit. I feel weirdly protective over Lauren Sanchez, even though she doesn't need to be defended. She has on tea energy. I don't even know. It's just like all the people who are accusing her of being tasteless and vulgar, or tasteless and vulgar themselves, just not in an aesthetic way in like an intellectual or spiritual way. And like everybody was like ragging on her. And at the same time, every single female Trump relative, Ivanka Tiffany Kai, did an elaborate photo shoot to honor Donald's inauguration, which like, you know, it's like kind of harmless female vanity, but if you zoom out, it's like kind of bizarre and absurd to stage a photo shoot for yourself, because you know, you're going to be photographed anyway with your family. Like that to me is just as vulgar as wearing like a white blazer with like a white bustier beneath. Am I crazy? Like it's bizarre. Like Ivanka. I mean, I love Ivanka with Ivanka, and she's a beautiful woman, blah, blah, blah, but like she had that like photo shoot in the Audrey Hepburn dress on like the bare staircase, which is weird. I'm pulling up the Tiffany Trump line. Yeah, it's awesome. Yeah, it's she's sure. Yeah. And she's, I was like, these are glittering images. She looks so psycho. But yeah, no, but how is that not as vulgar and tasteless as what Lauren Sanchez did? Of course. I agree. I mean, yeah, I mean, I'm personally not offended by any of it. It's all fine. It's all within the realm of like normal female activity. But like, why does Lauren Sanchez get hit hardest? A friend of mine put it really well that like what people really secretly object to is this kind of like aesthetic brownification of beauty standards. Like there was that Instagram post from Keith McNally back in the day, I'm going to get my restaurant privileges rescinded before I even got them where he was calling her ugly and repulsive and he like assembled a carousel of her with the Kardashian ladies. And I think like, yeah, people would never, Ivanka? No, Lauren Sanchez. And like nobody would ever admit to this because we all see ourselves as like tolerant anti-racist people. But what they're really objecting to is this black slash Latina aesthetic. Yeah, that's become more of a norm, right? It's like loud, colorful in your face, like big tits, big ass, big lips, tan skin, lots of bronzer, like 10 pounds of makeup versus like the Carolyn Bissette, Jackie Oh. Sure. Tasteful political lady look. Wow, she's 55 years old. Yeah. And she's like, you know, she's like a journalist, a businesswoman. She's a licensed pilot. She's not just some random bimbo. Yeah. I don't really care about Lauren Sanchez and Jeff Bezos, but like they clearly seem to love each other and make each other happy. She's dyslexic. Yeah. And they had an extramarital affair. Yeah. I didn't realize. Yeah. Well, she seems like an amazing woman. I mean, deaf, like for sure. You know, she's literally fine and harmless. Like if she was donating to Libtard causes, like Mackenzie Bezos, maybe she'd be fair game. Nobody complains about that woman. Right. In the spirit of being charitable, I will say that they both have beautiful hair. Wow. We extension. What does that even mean? You know, I'm just saying, I feel like the arbitrary bizarre hate for Lauren Sanchez is a little bit overblown. I agree. I don't feel any ill will towards her. I think she's nothing. Kind of. She's not my taste. Same. She's not a, you know, picnic and hanging rock. elegant wafer. But I'm not expecting to see that in Washington, DC. When we were like trekking, attempting to go to the back of the line, it's DC. The women dress like frosted. I know. They dress like straight up hoars. Is it crazy? I feel like if there was like a, I mean, at the Young Republicans gala, there wasn't like, you know, you had some body cons and stuff happening, but it was in DC. I'm like, wow, like, are you like a whore? I know. I know. Like, what is your why are you trying to go to this ball so much? And you're just like a whore. And like all these like, so Sanchez, this is like no shade, but all the right-wing influencer wives look just as slutty as Lauren Sanchez. Let's be real. Which influencer I'm not going to name names. You mean the wives of right wing? Yes. Yeah. Or like some of the girls themselves. Mm hmm. Sure. They have a very, like, in your face, a girl got party. Wait, what is her deal? She was a Jan Sixer. Oh, she's like, she's like a hot babe. She's like a blonde. She's a dumb bitch. But yes, she was awaiting sentencing or something. There was like a big spread. And the New York Post really is like when I put up, I like to save up the stack of New York Post. And then I, when I put up the pot, I like, weave through them. I'm like, oh, yeah. Black, school shooter, Griper, was apparently in the same-- In the touch with Samantha Ruppin. They're in the same, like, discord chat or something. Yeah. Same typo, weird, different kind of shooter. He only killed one person, I think. Okay. So I think it was, like, kind of targeted. And he was a black Nazi. But really came and went with so much going on in the press cycle. Oh, Elon's-- Oh, yeah. Josh shared that. He's a Nazi slu kind of. Yeah. He did a Roman slu. Yeah. Really. It's-- He did his own secret third thing. I think he knew what he was doing. But also think he couldn't control himself. Is he a Nazi? Is he autistic? It's both. And he's not a Nazi in any meaningful way. But he was doing, like, he did do-- He knew what he was doing. Yeah. And I think I-- Well, he's, like, all geniuses, he's retarded. Yeah. And I don't know if he could anticipate how bad the optics would be. Oh, I think he-- I'm just shocked that he would do something so retarded. I think-- Like, I'm not personally offended by it because I didn't see anything wrong with it. It was just, like, a stupid, spergie, provocative, trolly gesture. Who cares? Well-- But he played into the hands of all the worst people. But in a Machiavellian way, you know, he drove sort of discourse on media platform that he owns, you know. But he knew and he was-- It was sort-- He had, like, the plausible deniability of my heart goes out to you. But we all know, you know, that he had his arm outstretched, which are not-- Like, there's a photo of me that gets circulated sometimes. I know there's the SS flag, blah, blah, blah, which is also totally fine. But there's one where I just have my arm outstretched. And I actually wasn't-- I was, like, 18 and really wasn't even doing kind of a hit. I think it was kind of just like doing, like, a skinny arm thing. But it looks-- The thing about a Hitler salute is, you know, still photograph. I'm out stretching my arm now. You can't-- She's doing the notes. Well, you can't tell. Like, I could have done it from my forehead. I could have done-- It's a very specific gesture and, like, a photograph is not an adequate condemnation of something as being a Nazi salute. Though what Elon did was very, very similar to a Nazi salute. Well, and it was also caught in video. Yeah, exactly. So you had the whole breadth of motion. Yeah, but he did hit his chest first. Yeah, we're just not a Nazi. Yeah. I'm not even, like, defending him. I'm not defending him. I'm just saying the stigma of outstretching your arm. Emphatically with a lot of enthusiasm and rigor is, you know, I think we're past it. You know, Trump's not doing it. Trump's not doing it. Trump's not doing a Nazi salute. Elon's a spark. Oh, here. I'm trying to open another beer. I just think that it's stupid to get offended about something like that in this day and age, because there's no such thing as real Nazis and the tiny minority, like, the minuscule percentage of people in the world who still identify as Nazis is so powerless and so reviled. Nobody takes them seriously. You cannot be a Nazi or a fascist in this day and age. Like, sure, you can be a fascist, but a Nazi, you cannot be a Nazi or a fascist in any serious, politically consequential way in 2025. And yeah, a Nazi for sure. Fascism is a kind of umbrella term that you can be grouped in with, but Nazism? Yeah. Like, you think Elon Musk is a, you think he's part of the third, the third, right? He's a, he likes the, this is so, he adheres the tenants of Nazism. Like, that's just, this is like, so pureeil and trivial. And I cannot believe it still bears repeating. And maybe it does not even, but like, Nazi and or fascist in this day and age just means person, I disagree with politically. That's literally the only meaningful definition. Yeah. I mean, I think, didn't Netanyahu say that the Elon gesture was not a Nazi. But then people love to call, you know, they call Israel Nazis. Yeah. They call me a Nazi. Yeah. I'm from Belarus. It's like, why would I be a Nazi? That's crazy. It's just like, it doesn't make any sense. Yeah. It's like a historical and like, not meaningful. But yeah, we shouldn't be like, I guess, throwing up Romans. Yeah. If we want to beat the, like, he got, he got caught up. He was overexcited. Yeah. He clearly did. Yeah. And he didn't seem to face any consequences for it, unlike Vivek, who got totally excommunicated for that one, really annoying and gay boy meets world posts. I know. It's really, I don't know how he's going to come back from that. Oh, he's like running for governor of Ohio. Oh, really? Because JD Vance is the VP. Yeah. Oh, well, good luck. I guess. I mean, I feel bad for Vivek. It's so sad how nobody likes him. I know. And I want him to, you know, I love to see him and redeemed. So I'd like, you know, but I just don't see what happened for him. He's like Andrew Yang, you know, I was like, we're not gonna let this Chinese guy. I know have the computer country, whatever he wants. He's an unusual person, much like Yang, because he's not exactly cursed or unlucky because he's made it this far. And he's basically a household name now. But he is definitely not blessed. Not blessed in Spain, right now. And yeah, like I said, being an American is not about how much homework you did. It's about how much homework you didn't do. It's just about the kind of spirit, you know, glory, glory, hallelujah. The truth is marching on. The truth is social. Oh, Fauci security detail. Oh, yeah. That was funny. He can afford private security. Yeah, it's all kind of because Brandon pardon Fauci. Okay. Before leaving office, as well as his whole family, which is hilarious because I'm very naive and retarded. So I assume pardons are handed down for crimes that have already been committed, but apparently not. I would have all the same things. They're also handed down for any like future presumptive crimes, or like anything you maybe did, or yeah, you can just, that's interesting. Yeah, we got to get back down to Washington, you're trying to embrace shadarsals? Not even tiny crimes. I don't need a pardon. But that's like, yeah, so power gets you. So it's kind of immunity. Yeah. And now Fauci, like, what did he do? What do you do? Because the pardon was really like, and thank you for your service. And I'll, I'm pardoning you. It's like, well, what are you pardoning him from? And yeah, they're saying it's like, because Trump's gonna be draconian. And he's like, but yeah, but that's another one. Those like classic libtard moves where they love to preemptively smear their enemies by accusing them of stuff that they're planning on doing where they're like, Oh, Trump is gonna strike down upon his political opponents. Wait, I have to be right back. I mean, this, this, I was just in the bathroom thinking about Trump rescinding Fauci security detail. And of course, in the mind of his liberal critics, this is like a weird dog whistle attempt to get people to seek retribution against him, like guerrilla style. But in reality, it's probably just like a cost cutting measure because these security details must cost a lot of money. Of course. Well, it's just both. No, I don't even think Luigi's locked up. He's not like Trump is not sicking. Skitzo right wing activists on Fauci. No, he's not saying it's legal. He's not like it's open season on Dr. Fauci. Right. And like I said, like Dr. Fauci's become incredibly rich through all of his nefarious business feelings. So he is able to afford a body part and he doesn't need the tax payers who he whose lives he destroyed. He kept him seeing their family members in their last moments to pay for his like vanity celebrity security detail. That makes him feel like Brad Pitt when he waltzes into a fancy restaurant. He's gonna have a bodyguard, of course, you know, as everyone hates them and he deserves it. And he's the least he can do. Also, it's not gonna happen to him. Be careful, Anna. You've placed Armenian curse. No, I'm actually not. I'm a man of principle. So I never liked it even when these vigilante groups would round up some poor 95 year old Nazi in Argentina or Chile and like try to get him assassinated or like haul him before a court or whatever. I think if you've made it that far, you can just like be loved to your own devices. Yeah, and so like, I don't know, I'm not advocating for any like civilian violence against Anthony Fauci, even though that wouldn't be just and resent what he did to us. It wouldn't be just and I would have loved to see some justice, but it's all it's okay. It's not that important to me. Not as important as the bulbs, which would be really satisfying is if I get my backs on done, I can get this backstate out of my body. Mr. Donald Trump can make an anti-vaxx that I could say. No, I think the vax ultimately is whatever. I think that there should be like a fair and impartial Nuremberg style process for covid criminals, but there won't be there won't be there won't be there won't be for Fauci, maybe some of some lower run people her pewter days act. I doubt it. Who knows? It's okay. It's not. I'm not. I don't want vengeance. I really don't. I'm like on board with rectifying like when Bannon was talking about how Zuckerberg is like falling in line, but he's not really one of us. And like for me, I'm like, I don't care if they weren't based before, if they are going to just fall in line and be based now, then that's I don't care. You know, I just want like, you know, I'm I've yeah, I want to be forgiven for my transgressions. And I want to forgive my enemies for their transgressions against me. And I really want the construction to stop at that time. But that's something I don't power over. There's no one I can vote for to make that not stop. But maybe I'll go maybe I'll become a lobby. And use circuitous means the sabotage this whole operation. But realistically, I won't because it's waking me up too early and derailing my day. It's stopping you of your faculties. It's making your way for and more retarded. Zog is winning. They're waging a war against me by the Jewish developers building a building next to mine. And it is they're winning. But it's nice. I was like relatively happy with the moral victory of Trump winning. But it turns out the second time around he's actually trying to get some shit done too. Well, it's yeah. And it's I don't want to glow. No, but we'll let the right wing and on stay there for us. Yeah, it's on becoming. But it is really nice. I think him waiting now after losing this the previous is very nice. The Grover Cleveland maneuver is I mean, it's so much more satisfying. And things have really reached such a pitch of exhaustion. Morally amongst the population. The fact that Elon doing a Nazi salute isn't like three, four years ago. Yeah, that would have been like grounds for total cancellation. Yeah, it would have just been like something that was like an unstoppable force of like, yeah, no scary. I know everyone's kind of like, whatever, shut up. It's like mildly annoying and tedious that there are like these kind of like Jewish intellectual activist types in the media who are like, he did a Nazi look. Oh my god, we're going back to the third. Are you serious? Yeah. Yeah, everyone kind of can't. It's nice that the libs have like exhausted their welcome. It is, but also, there is like a certain kind of depression or melancholy that sets in. It doesn't totally counteract the the vibe of positive uplift from winning so much. But then you remember just like how many years we've all like toiled under Democrat and forced reality and how people just simply let it happen. All of us. Well, it's been good for us in a lot of ways. Yeah, you know, the Me Too movement was our bread and butter at some time. And you know, it was like liberal feminism being this kind of like flashpoint. Yeah, it was good for us. And it all is what it is. Like it wouldn't be as good if Trump had been president then. Yeah. And now we have, you know, I'm, yeah, I'm mostly, yeah, I'm pleased. I'm like, yeah, I'm a little like tired of winning. Already, I'm a little like, wow, more good news. Okay, I don't know. Yeah, but I'm excited to like, I do think it will be a like post political era potentially. One hopes this is what they said would happen with Biden one that we would return to normal and people would stop caring. But no, now for real. Because now the liberals are too exotic. They don't have the stamina or the like, popular support. But it's like, oh, he did a Nazi suit, like all these go up and on his blah, blah, you know, yeah, but it's still it's still shocking that people are still doing the whole purely aesthetic disagreement with Trump. Like I was up late last night reading a sub stack article by this lady, Kathy Young, who I've never heard of before. A lot of people I know really hate her because she's like a neo con. And she was feuding with Chris Rufo. And he said some very ugly and unflattering things about her. He called her a repulsive person inside and out, which I didn't. She's not the most attractive lady, but she's also like, not the youngest lady. And that's not really her shtick. Right. She's she's a Soviet immigrant. She's a Russian Jewish lady, Kathy who goes by Kathy Young. And I was reading this article that she penned where she was talking about how Trump's executive orders concerning DEI are in one sense welcome because there's clearly a problem with DI. But we should that's her. Yeah, she's an Aquarius. She's fine. She's like a little old lady, whatever. I don't care if she's like, not hot. But yes, in the, she's not that bad looking. Also, she's fine. She's 61 years old. Yeah. But the gist of her article, because I was trying to figure out if she had an argument, she kept firing back at Rufo and being like, well, you didn't read the article, you're just rage baiting, you should engage with my arguments. And I was trying to figure out what her argument was. And it really boils down to, like, yes, there's a problem with DI. And yes, it's good that it's being challenged. But I take Umbridge with the fact that a guy who I personally don't like happens to be the one doing something about it. She's a boomer. She's like, all about her two books growing up in Moscow, memoirs of a Soviet curlhead, which she published in 89. And then cease fire, why women and members try and force us to shape true quality. 1999. It's very quaint. Actually, I enjoy the most heaps that she's working with. I mean, she's like an anti-feminist, I guess. She's like a centrist who ostensibly is critical of both the left and the right. And like all centrists, what that really amounts to is that she does not entertain the right at all. And inevitably falls in line with the left as much as she objects to them, like aesthetically, rhetorically. She's just a boomer. Yeah, she shouldn't be a tag. Let her, you know, I think I with the doge, the government efficiency, the gutting of, you know, the bureaucratic blow, um, like, I mean, she'll, Cassie Young, will be fine. Yeah. You know, but like, there's art like inevitably the rolling people who will lose their jobs that were probably useless. Yeah, it's fine. I'm okay with it. But what are they gonna do? They'll find something to do, really? Yeah, it's like whatever they had, like, you have to think about it. It's like when people cry about illegal immigrants. Again, like, in theory, not even in theory, but like realistic, I'm just, I'm sympathetic to anyone whose, uh, fortunes are, like go downhill, who are like suddenly maligned, find themselves like on the wrong side of history. I don't like to see anyone suffer or be emissurated. But like, as Donald Trump pointed out, every single illegal immigrant is a criminal because they're here illegally, which sounds harsh, but it's true. And it's like every single person occupying one of these superfluous government jobs is taking money resources from taxpayers and funneling them into some useless, meetingless, destructive bottom line. I know, but it's not as if like, they'll, that we'll see, you know, I mean, it remains to be seen, but, you know, like, what are they supposed to do? Just like keep those people in their jobs forever, eternally? Yeah. I don't know. I'm just saying there's like ripple effects and stuff and like, it's like, you know, there'll be like, and with AI, this is the real, but I think it's very, I really appreciate Steve Bannon for this reason is because he is a kind of like, contrarian voice to like, I don't, I don't want like a tech oligarchy. I don't want to like, maximize efficiency in every avenue of American life. I don't want the people with the highest test scores who are the best at coding who are willing to code the longest to be the most prosperous people. Like, I want a pair of gonna be green again. And I, well, it's like Sam Hyde said, like, why are we even trying to compete with China? Why is that the premise of the argument? Why do we accept that premise? I know. I love him. He was like, maybe we should blockade all of the Indian immigrants going to China. Well, China is a threat. Yeah, but is it? Yeah. Like, why do you accept that premise? Because of their like, human capital, their technological advancements, their erosion of American morale and minds through those things like TikTok. But we shouldn't be competing with them according to their own standards. What do you mean? Which is like building a quote meritocracy where everybody does their homework. No, but we like need to do something about TikTok. We need to do something about, you know, trade. But if we do something about TikTok, we have to do something about every social media platform. Because they're all, well, they're not all Chinese on, they're like designed to like make you stupid and crazy. Well, no, they're all designed to make you stupid and crazy, but not all of them are Chinese owned. Yes, that's correct. Yeah. But some benefit China. Yes, yeah, specifically, you know, you can get a paycheck. You get $86. Yeah, I guess when they make the argument that like banning TikTok is like against freedom of speech, it's like, well, freedom of speech only applies to American citizens. Well, there are, they are American citizens, but that's yeah, that's the kind of like line of argumentation is that like, TikTok is this free space where people can be pro-Palestine. But actually, TikTok is owned by Chinese people and it feeds your worst, there's impulsive, it manipulates your psychology. It is like, I mean, I like TikTok. I don't know anything about TikTok. I've never been on it, but I guess the idea is also they're like, they have like, they're essentially collecting, harvesting the data of US citizens for their own intelligence purposes, which is the real issue. That's a huge issue. That's a geopolitical, not a freedom of speech issue. That's a big issue, but also just like the like, dumbing down of America. Like, you know, think about how many people are like, trying to be influencers on TikTok, how much of their life and time is spent on this app. But that problem is going to persist even if like an American firm were to acquire TikTok. Well, that would be preferable. It would be, yes. Like game theory, yes. It would be preferable. And like ideal scenario, you know, we have some... But it would still not be ideal. Even if we are, even if we are in a tech oligarchy, they have the no blessable, you know, to like dampen the algorithm to make it less, you know, addictive or toxic or mind-roading. Like... But do they? I don't think they do. I think that they only respond to incentives to like, checks and balances handed down to them by Trump because he like bullied them into bowing down, which is good. But he can't do that with the Chinese algorithms. Which, yeah, you know. And a lot of people, like, you know, like my personal trainer gets a lot of information from TikTok that's like very like wrong. And it's very easy for if... Okay, so China owns a very popular social media platform and they're able to manipulate the information that people get when they use this platform. And then that information can be manipulated to like so like discord and schism amongst people and to make it, you know, it's not... It's all like huge. It's honestly Dean Kissik is really right when he talks about how like, there's just too much information. It's just like oversaturated. Yeah. And then it leads to moral fatigue. Yeah. And like, just enjoy that. Well, yeah, there is literally too much information, which is why everybody is like numb and desensitized. Yeah. That's why I'm annoyed when people complain about porn specifically because everything is essentially playing the function of porn. Totally. Going on TikTok is just like gooning. Yeah. You know, you're just like watching the loops of, you know, when I watch girls taking their sock curls out. Yeah. And I'm like, autistically watching like the spy of hair, like over and over and over and over. Yeah. And this paradigm porn seems relatively like innocent and provincial. At least you're not watching it for that long. Yeah. And it serves a specific function. Yeah. This is just like a black hole like Chinese nihilism. And that's also like the real age gap because people of our generation older just get left behind because we can't process that excessive information and just shut down. Yeah. And self-ajacked. Well, I can't like make a TikTok. Yeah. Like you say, how would you even? Yeah. Maddie can do it. Yep. But she's, she's a true aquarium. I can watch, I engage with TikTok and Instagram Reels, which are kind of the same thing. Yeah. A little more like American consumer. Well, Instagram Reels is like trying to compete with TikTok now and Instagram in general, right? Like they changed the format recently so that like your main display looks like Reels and the photos are no longer square. They're rectangular. I know. I hate to resemble the TikTok mode. I know. I hate that. Me too. But we're gonna get used to it because that's what humans do. I know. We're not really even using answering on that one. But my point was, right, that Bannon is kind of spot on and like keeping like techies, you know, in his periffs that we don't want. Like, MAGA is not about being beholden to the interests of big tech. That's true. Yeah. I mean, his whole point that it's a essential like existential conflict between the MAGA right and the tech right is correct. But in that way, he's like a dinosaur and we're all dinosaurs because how do you stem the flow? I mean, I was, this is a question I'll post to him. I got too warm. I got to meet Grimes. Yeah. I was really excited about what I was so drunk and like fucked up. I was kind of like combative and weird. But I feel like I botched it because I was ranting and raving but I don't want to live in a 3D printed house. And I like tech is evil. I was on like a Steve Bannon barber jacket and she was sort of like, well, the early internet used to be cool and aesthetic and, you know, and I was like, it's not anymore. It's all bad and they want to make me live in a pod and eat the bugs and I won't and stuff. But I think that I hope naively maybe that there's enough of like a real conservatism in the true sense of like conserving what is like meaningful and special and like historical and not just like giving way into like a version of China where we all like live in, you know, the most the most efficient, you know, like, you know, LED bulb or whatever. Like, hi, that's why I'm so heartened by the the lifting of the bulb band. Yeah. That's nice. Like, you know, it's Americanism isn't just about it. So that kind of humaneness. Yeah. And you can like kind of incrementally dial back the worst excesses by like reviving incandescent bulbs and encouraging people to have families. Yeah. Encouraging people to get married, then promoting religion, all this sort of thing. But like, the real big existential question is, is any of this possible as a mass revival? And I don't think so, which like any of these like positive pro family. Why no pronation forces? Well, because in order to have those things, you really have to believe. I think there's a way maybe, you know, the neoclassical mandate promoting beautiful federal civic architecture was one of the executive orders that said federal public buildings should be visually identified as civic buildings and respect regional traditional classical architectural heritage in order to uplift and beautify public spaces and ennoble the United States and our system of self government. Yeah. Like, that's not, you know, they're not building tons of new government buildings, but just even something like that that's like pro beauty. Yeah. But that's an economic problem because what? Like the revival of the neoclassical tradition. Like, neoclassical buildings don't only look a certain way. They're built from certain materials. They're the plans are made in a certain way that is probably no longer economically viable. I disagree. That's not true. Like, you have to subsidize the existence of such buildings because it's much cheaper and easier to throw up like some shed, like a brutalist glass shed. That's like even like a cheap facsimile of like a post-modern architectural styles. But that's not the order. That's all the mandate. It's a neoclassical mandate and once we're not giving them the balance the trans surgeries, that's all nice money for nice building materials. Yeah, but these things all I feel like have to be heavily subsidized by the federal government in order to function. Well, they should be. Yeah, they should be. But that's... I'd rather my tax dollars go to having beautiful architecture. No, of course. But that's like economically inefficient, uncompetitive. Why? Well, because it's much more costly and time-consuming to create those kind of buildings, to hire people who can build them. But once we drain this lawn. I know, but there's just a bit of reallocation of resources to Americans who can build beautiful things instead of like bottom surgery for them to balance. Yeah, I know, I know. Well, that when I was sparking about factory farming, of course, like something like the the reform of factory farming cannot happen immediately because we are in the midst of an inflationary period where consumer costs the cost of food, the cost of living is out of control. And if you start reforming factory farming now, the cost of food is going to go all the way up. So yeah, that's like, I mean, it's a pipe dream. Yeah, it is. It's like totally idealistic and retarded. But it doesn't even have to be perfect can be. We don't need like, you know, we just, I don't want the pigs in a fucking cage. I know they should on their babies and fucking feel stressed and crazy and scared and stuff. And, you know, there's a middle ground, I think, as a policy wonk, as a famous factory farming has to get way worse before it could get better. Oh, God, no. I don't think it can get worse. It's already as bad as it can be. But like, yeah, like Trump said, like Donald's had, you know, we don't like Donald's doing what he spends. Yeah, I don't think this is like at the top of his agenda. I was just trying to manifest it and see what happened. I did not foresee people getting mad at you about that. Fucking Noah Cohen. What is this problem? I don't know. I have nothing to say about that guy has like fixation on owning me by getting at me through mentioning my kid. It's horrible. It's like next level creepy. People were like, oh, we were just trying to point out that you're stupid. It's like, there's like thousands of ways you can say, I'm stupid without bringing my kid into it. Come on. That's not what's going on. But whatever, I don't care about that guy. He's like, no, it doesn't matter. I mean, we were friends when he was a friend of Adam Freedland. And yeah, so I have like hung out with him and like his girlfriend this time. Like, you know, he was like spent time together. He came up to me. He told me who Mary Ann Williamson was. Oh interesting. You guys should really talk about Mary Williamson. It's kind of a red scare candidate. It's like years ago. I was like, oh, huh. But like, yeah, we had like a friendly, you know, whatever. We were like, right, we know we were close. But like to see the way he is lashing out of like for fucking what? Yeah, I don't know. You get out of this. And what do you want? Like, you want factory for like, what are you saying? Yeah, I don't think that he's a fan of factory for me. There's no way. How could you be? Yeah, I think he's just like mad at me for some weird and decipherable reason. Because I'm like a traitor to the laughter, whatever. Yeah, he's always been angry for years. No, I know. He's so he, me as well. He's but I But I feel bad because it's like, okay, if I ever ran into this guy in person, I'm assuming he lives somewhere in New York City. He's like a Brooklyn poop. Yeah, it would probably be totally fine and civil. And we like avoid you and be scared. Yeah. Honestly, I'm gonna kick his ass. The baby will kick his ass. We'll get it. He was beat up by girls. Yeah, a little girl to beat him up. Whatever. I wish I could have like an epic clapback against Noah Colvin, but I just think he's so desperate and creepy. I know it's nothing interesting to say about him. No, it literally sucks. Buckle, buckle up. Because it's gonna be a long four year. Eight years, 16 years, 200 years, 1000 years. No, it'll be 1000. You're Trumpian. Reich is upon us. I'm not like delusional. I'm open to the hospital. I've been deceived. You know, the deep state. I'm so prepared. I mean, but I wish I mean, I'm so paranoid that like, you know, I'm like, the deep state actually is like tricked us all. Those massive schemes and initiates and tech, all of our key that makes all our lives first and you're taking the bulbs away. But thus far I've been, I'm very, I feel pretty good. And it's fine. I mean, okay, like Richard Hanania messaged me and he was like, why are you so against Kathy Young? And I said, I'm not. I barely know who she is and just learned about her today. And he said, like, Anna, you know, like, it's okay to talk to people on the left and criticize people on the right. And I said, yeah, sure, Richard, like, I agree that there are many disgusting and deplorable right-wing figures in the world. I'm not like a triumphantly, unequivocally pro-right. And even if you identify as a right-wing person, you should be able to criticize people on your own team. I think I just think the binary is not. But so useful. I think it's important to, as a person who's generally like, I don't know, cynical is like a bad way of putting it. But as a person who just assumes things will go wrong and be much worse as Spurgler put it, I'm not an excitable person. He really read me with that one. I just think it's nice to try, at least to believe in something. For sure. To like fake it till you make it. Yeah. Because what is your other option? It's like, okay, I'm not like uncritically pro-Trump, believe it or not. I just don't think that it's wise or productive to be an ankle-biter like Nick Fuentes. And like relentlessly complain about MAGA. And it's various influencers. Supposedly in the spirit of pushing them to do the things that you want them to do. But really because you're like disgruntled and jealous. And like, I don't know, you just like put on a nice face and have those conversations in private. You can, what are your shoes with Trump? I can't even think of one right now. Thus far, I really have no, I thought the Palisades press conference was handled extremely well. I thought, I think he's like clearly working very hard. The media has way more access to him than they did a Biden or a Kamala. That is not like an endorsement of every single thing he does. I'm not like a don't blame me. I vote for Trump. Bumper sticker. I like, yeah, thus far, I mean, it's very early. It'll be a lot, you know, it's the moral we revealed. The bulbs are back, so that's good enough for me. And the rest like it's I'm not culpable for. I voted for these people to initiate the pragmatic political changes, but they promise that they whether they seem like they're delivering on there's going to be bosses. It's going to be obligations. It's going to be blah, blah, blah. It's going to be a whole thing, of course. I don't have to be involved. I'm not responsible for every single thing. Trump does ever who suffers, and it's none of that. It's not. I am a Democrat. I participated in the democratic process and voted for the Canada that I thought would benefit the country the most, which has come to fruition and thus far has been pretty good. Yeah, it was a pragmatic decision, not a vibes-based one. Well, I also have until the level of Trump. Yeah, the vibes were good. The vibes aligned. They dovetailed. Yeah, it was a big part of it for me, and I do. I love my big orange. We're wholly in president. I'm very happy with how things are going. That could change. I could see enough, sad migrant videos that will cause me to have emotional reactions. I could feel differently. But thus far, I really haven't, and I've been pretty good, so I don't know. And if you're a lot successful media pundit or influencer, and you have an issue with something that is not being done, your best strategy is not to back by and be a doomer. It's to steer things in the direction that you want to see. Like Chris Rufo, I know, again, many people have issues with him. I know we like to make fun of him for hiring the porn star. Blah, blah, blah, blah. But he was extremely powerful and effective in getting the message out there and rolling back the worst excesses of DI. Do you think he was at the ball? He was, no, I mean, the real ball. Probably, yeah. Not us. So don't give that up because we weren't even at the ball. I wasn't even with Vince Vaughn, who wouldn't have hover handed me. He would have attached my ways. It could have been a me super spreader event. It could have been amazing. Getting AIDS. Okay, we should go. We should, we did it. It's a major along. Really? Fuck. I mean, besides the bathroom break, okay. All right. Well, see you. We'll see you in a minute. [Music]