Is it "trash" or is it "black gold"? Todays guest is Cathy Nesbitt, owner and operator of Cathy's Crawlers, a worm composting business that's celebrating its 20th year in business right now. If you're like me you have almost no idea what regular composting is, but don't worry we get into that right away to better help you understand the worms! And don't be put off from the idea because of the worms either. You can actually still accomplish most everything we talk about with no really person-to-worm interaction if you'd rather too. Email Me at DumbEnoughPodcast@Gmail.com or on any social site! Lastly we've got the rankings! 1. The US, making up some of the ground they had lost. 2. Canada making a triumphant return after our favorite Canadian Psychic last week. 3. India. 4. The UK, soooo close to taking number 3 back. 5. Sweden! Keeping a narrow lead over Germany and New Zealand (6th & 7th).