Clarko is the developer of Symbolsaurus and is fresh off his experience with the Apple Vision Pro at one of the many developer labs. As you can imagine those labs are not for public discourse, but as you can tell by the runtime of this episode that does not stop us from diving deep into the potential for visionOS and how we see spatial computing changing how we work. We also discuss at length his app Symbolsaurus that he is in the process of porting to visionOS.

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Links: 

https://www.symbolsaurus.com

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Chapter Markers:

00:00:00: Opening

00:01:27: Support the Podcast

00:02:17: Clarko

00:05:27: Interface Designer

00:08:23: Current Hardware Setup and Gaming

00:14:20: Apple Vision Pro

00:17:40: Vision Pro Labs

00:18:09: 20 Years from Now

00:24:48: Pleading the 5th

00:26:37: What can you share about the physical device?

00:28:41: Eye Control Ramifications

00:37:26: Text Selection?

00:39:44: Multiple Audio Sources?

00:40:44: iPadOS vs visionOS

00:44:48: iWork and 3D Printing/Sculpting

00:47:23: Capturing Scenes for Vision Pro

00:48:32: The Gestures

00:52:40: Any other general thoughts?

01:02:33: Sponsor - Agenda 18

01:04:53: Symbolsaurus

01:12:10: Sharing the symbols from the app

01:16:04: Where are these used?

01:18:09: Origins of the app

01:19:17: Designing for Apple Vision Pro

01:21:01: How AVP became a primary target

01:24:11: 3D Symbols?

01:26:11: The size of visionOS

01:27:15: Feature Complete?

01:29:47: Input in visionOS

01:32:52: Multiple Windows per App?

01:37:06: Filing cabinets and BT accessories

01:38:18: Collections

01:38:51: Anything else about your app?

01:40:06: What visionOS apps do you hope get made?

01:42:28: Final thoughts?

01:44:48: Where can people find you?

01:45:21: Closing

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