Today on the show, Paul and Ben talk about Worlds Beyond Number, how gude/laurance the gude/laurance podcast is, needing to reschedule the show, daylight saving time, Manhunter, the log flume ride, early memories, gentrifying Detroit, Mark Sandman, Nevermen, Oysterhead, Bad Technique, Schroedinger’s Friend, Ringu and living on Vashon Island.