On this episode, Chris and Koi sit back and reflect on 5 years of the podcast, from guests to topics and rants the boys also talk about what’s up and coming for the podcast!
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CHEERS TO 5 YEARS!
- How many pictures are on yelp? Pull up all these pictures and you're like, "Oh, that's the dessert you're eating?" All right, so that's the candle. Okay, that's the same candle. I know what that is. (laughing) And 45 minutes to an hour. - 45 minutes to an hour. - 45 minutes? (dramatic music) - Wait, can you run that long? No offense. - I thought you were married. (laughing) - I did? - Yeah, it's a birthday. - I think a guy is more comfortable being alone than he's gonna grow up, but I mean, - You need to hold on to yourself. (audience cheering) - I think... (audience cheering) - Ah, first of all, I'm gonna say everybody, for listening, welcome to Mendo no podcast, Amanda Manning, French, your host and creator, Chris Boone. And here on the podcast, we talk with a bunch of guys. We ask a bunch of woman questions. Overwinding cocktails. (audience cheering) Whether you're listening to me, we'll play I Heart Radio, Spotify, Up in Podcasts, SoundCloud, Pandora. We downloaded that Mendo no podcast app. I cannot thank y'all enough. Mershoor's open. There's always hit me up on Instagram @MendoNo, Twitter @MendoNoOne. Shoot me an email, Chris@MendoNo.com or hop on the Mendo No.com website and shoot me a message. Koi, my guy. - What up bro? - How are we loving? - We're great. - Okay. - We are. I mean, we started this 2019 going into the pandemic. Man. - Just a motherfucking thing. - Yeah, five times, five years. - Yeah, no, congratulations to both of us, bro. I mean, they say, you know, people only do 20 episodes. Like, they say 60% of people. - We've seen it. - 60% of people only do 20 episodes on a podcast. 90% of people only do 100 episodes on a podcast and then stop. We are over 500,000 people. I mean, it's like, you know, we're not going to do that. We are over 500, five years. - Did you think it would be like that? - I know you had a vision, but. - Vision didn't know if it would continue at certain points. You know, evolution, this podcast used to be in an hour and 45 minutes. We talked about our episode 500, half a stack. This podcast used to be hour and a half, two hours sometimes. We shortened it down to 30 minutes because, you know, typically that's a lunch break, average ride time in a car is anywhere between 25 and 45 minutes. So it was one of those things where I started to look at where could I be more impactful and what did I hate about other podcasts in that area? And I was like, quality, don't bullshit me and let's keep it going. Get with the shit, tell me what I want to hear. Get me in and out because sometimes I only have 30 minutes. I may be on, you know, I always looked at, you know, I was always in the gym and my biggest thing was like cardio or by usually doing 30 minutes of cardio, 30 minutes of cardio. You always hear that 30 minutes of cardio, 30 minutes of cardio. You always hear, you know, in the sun of 30 minutes, in the sun of 30 minutes. So, you know, I was always, I started to adapt to everybody else's lifestyle with the podcast. - That's good. - That's bad, good, different, I think it was the idea that I wanted to go on type of thing. - Quick hitters. - Quick hitters, I mean, and, you know, when me and you talk, it was like, yeah, you know, could we do the, you know, two hour podcast, one hour podcast and fill it with everything, yeah, but. - Attention span these days are microwave mentality. - Yeah, exactly, exactly. The younger people, you know, have time to, I mean, it's not like we have scientists and archaeologists on our podcast, you know. - There's no Joe Rogan type of thing, I don't have guests. - Just, you know, quick hitting topics that matter. - Matter and that helpful, helpful topics and that we talk about as a group in, in every conversation. When you, when a group of guys get around, these are conversations that happen, when a group of girls get around, this is what's in the group chat and it might not ever come up. - No. - It's a good way of hearing about it. - 100%. And I guess the best thing I started learning about it is like couples started listening and it started being a great conversation for them. It started to be something that, you know, you see your girlfriend and wife every day, you don't have, you don't necessarily have a, I don't wanna say a lot to talk about, but you start to talk about the regular things. - So you think, either one of the two couples listening could kind of bring up stuff or maybe incorporate new things that they learn? - A lot of couples started listening together on like they do an open a bottle of wine, but it's on. A lot of people started playing us while they were cooking and stuff like that and a lot of people started listening on their break and lunches and incorporating that into, you know, when they talk to their significant other and got their point of view. - Do you think any of the topics sparked any controversy or arguments between couples? - 100%, 100%, pillow talk. I remember we did that one at the beginning. Just about guys, you know, telling the girl all their secrets about, you know, what they talk about and confidence with their boys. - Yeah. - What about like, oh, I just heard this episode, how come you don't do this? - I mean, 100%, that too. I mean, the flowers thing was huge. Shivery is not dead, it was huge. Man, you know, I used to post when I saw Costco had flowers on sales. - Oh, yeah. - And to be honest with you, Doug, I mean, Doug, you getting two dozen for $17. You bring her a Starbucks home and you get a Starbucks at $17. Bring her, bring her two dozen home. Take it out of the plastic. You know, like Doug, let her be talked about at work. You know, like, as much as women say they hate, they hate the center of attention, but they love it when it's something good. What did he do? Nothing, he just, you know. - Make that work husband non-existent. - Yeah, put that, you can't touch me, bro. Like, I'm scorching you. I'm scorching you at home. Doug, I'm trying to tell you like I'm the guy like, I always tell, you know, I always tell people like, I love hard, but I'm hard to love. Like, I always often think about this with the podcast and it's come up a lot lately because of the fact that I just been like kind of thinking and I don't wanna say reflecting, but I mean, five years is a long time. Five years is half a decade. And I was like the amount of relationships I've gone through with the podcast and kind of because of the podcast, I wouldn't change it for the world. - No. - It's the idea of you know what I'm doing because this is how you met me. - Sure. - I said the amount of friendships I've made and we've made on the because of the podcast is uncanny. - Yeah, just random people there. You never thought you'd meet. - Yeah, never meet and you become great friends. - Super cool too. And then you know, not even that, now I look at it and I'm like damn, I didn't, a lot of relationships, a lot of you know, you would think I now would have been in a secure relationship just that and third, but the podcast and the merch and my time is very limited. And you know, my mom always speaks to the fact that if you want quality time, not quantity. My sister always says, you know, you can build with a busy man or babysit a broke one. - You got short amount of time? - Yeah. - Gotta be good quality time. - Yeah, the short amount of time I have. - Yeah, not here for a long time, here for a good time. The short amount of quality time that I have, it's like no boo, like I'm, you know, like I'm treating you like Aladdin, like Aladdin treated the princess, like I know I can't give you every day. But the days I do give you are better than the days we could have every day, you know? - I agree. - Like, you know, I always tell people like, going through the podcast for five years, you realize and I get to see a lot of relationships build, unfold, you get to see relationships be created. - Jesse and Maddie met on the podcast, gave them the idea for the dinner date. What happened later, they got married. What happened later, they got, yep, baby on board. - M, same thing. On the podcast, met his friends, E-O-B, met the guy, dated, got married, baby on the way. What about all the people you've met randomly that had a question that was burning them or a situation that they needed addressed? - A hundred percent. - You probably helped them a lot. - You probably helped them a lot. - I had a guy hit me up trying to explain, try to help explain to his son how to do the first kiss. Four-page letter with the older woman in Santa Barbara about, you know, dating and her life experiences life. There's so many people that reach out and build and communicate that people, like, it's a good game of telephone. - It's an outlet too, like a same place where they can get maybe good advice anonymously. - Good anonymous advice and, you know, well, I don't think I rarely forget about it, but when you do something for five years, you become someone's household name. - They're used to you. - They're used to you. - Like, like someone told me, he said, you know, you're a routine in my day now. You know, we drop consistently last five years, Monday and Friday. So everybody expects Monday and Friday. - How many? - That's a couple hundred easily. - Yeah, think about it. Everybody expects Monday and Friday as well. - Two per week, 50 something weeks a year. - Yeah, it's about a hundred a year. - As well as, remember when we were doing like 25 days of Christmas and we were dropping an episode a day. Like, we were always trying and innovating, doing new things to help people along with their day because, you know, we knew how those days were and are, to be honest with you. Through the guests we've had, my cousin Ron, Chiara, Red. - All the while. - With E, - KP. - KP. - Practice, you know, like, there's so many people that have came on and Sammy G. - Is there another one that aren't with us anymore? - Yeah, Brandon, Rest in Peace, Chris, Rest in Peace, Sat in Cheese. Like, there's so many people that help build to evolve and push this podcast forward that, you know, there's so many highlights. And that's why the intro is the way that it is. It's because, you know, the podcast is built from everybody else and everybody else having questions that I ask. It's not about me and you. - Nah. - You know, we do put our opinions here and there, but for the most part, you don't care about my opinion. You care about the masses and you wanna know what X, Y, and Z are doing. And too, to be honest with you, I wanna know about X, Y, Z. - We're learning too. - 100%. I always tell, you know, the guys that listen, I say, when you listen to the podcast, listen to understand how to not to reply. - Of course. - The podcast is supposed to teach you when you're with a woman to listen to understand where she's coming from, not to reply. - Yep. - As well as give you a question to ask her to make her think. Whenever you're on a date and she says, "Damn, that's a good question." You score so much. - That's their mind, yeah. - Yeah. Like, communication is a lost art, you know. We started in 2019 and the pandemic going into - Survive the pandemic. - Yeah, shut the air, shut down, where we, you know, we got lucky. We've been best friends 20 plus years. So we were just now and just having our natural conversation, but on air. We were hanging out anyway. - Right. - I said, we might as well put a mic to this thing and-- - Same with all of our friends too, you know. - Yeah. - So you got a lot of friends and it's good to be able to pick their minds about situations and the fact that they can open up to you. - 100% but since you've been along, my friends became your friends and your friends became my friends. And then, like I said, we called AJ and he got married. Remember, he got married during the podcast. - Yeah. - You know, we, you know, you can't, you know, we kind of forget all these things that happened during the evolution of this podcast. But a lot of people got married. A lot of people, you know, separated. A lot of people were going through a lot of things. They did not and could not go through a loan that this helped them through. - And trust me, we're, we're, our group of guys, we have a lot of experience in life. - Yeah. - Dating, being social, whatever. But it does not mean that we know everything. There's a lot of topics that we hear from people that like, let's say I hear from one of your friends. I don't know her. - Yeah. - But she says something that's like, oh, okay. Like I didn't know about that, you know. - Yeah. - Stuff like that. You could still learn. - Oh, 100%. Just 'cause you quote unquote know everything doesn't mean you don't know anything. - You know everything from your point of view. - From your point of view. You can always learn more. - From someone else's point of view is a different point of view, so you should always be learning. And then, you know, so you shall always be open to learn at least. - You should always be open to understanding where someone else is coming from. And that's all the podcast was. Like, you wanna know about this. Well, here's what they say about this. Right wrong, not us trying to steer a decision. - No, I don't care about that, right or wrong. Listen to this. This is what they have to say, okay? These are three different individuals that have three different minds that are living three totally different lives. This is a good spectrum, you know. And then it came to the evolution of a lot of women were listening to "Understand Men." Because of the fact that-- - Do you think they're more hard-headed, though, to listen to guys' responses as far as-- 'Cause I think a guy would listen to a girl to try to get in her pants a little bit easier, you know. But a girl maybe might think like, I'm not even trying to listen to this. - I would say, at first, yes, but when you're wondering why things aren't going the way they should, you start-- - Re-evaluate. - Re-evaluate. - You start to listen to-- - Maybe I was. - "Understand why men think like this." You know, and then we had topics from cologne to drinks, to what to wear, to where to sit, where you should take 'em on the first date. Group on. We even touched on weddings and-- - Things to do. - The plus ones and holidays. - How to navigate through it. - Well, you should bring, how you guys should coordinate the holidays. - How to navigate as a group of guys going out, group of girls going out. - 100% understand why he acts the way he does when it's just y'all two versus him and his boys. Versus you guys in a group. We've had the conversations that, I guess help both sides understand the story of, you don't know everything. You know, I always tell people when people ask me, like, how did you start, and I told 'em? Like, I started in the pandemic with my best friend, and you know, they always say, it's hard to work with friends. And I was like, it's hard to work with friends when somebody has something over somebody, or somebody wants it to be. You came in and said, I'm just here to help you do what you need to do. - And that's what it is, too. - And I've always told everybody, like, it don't matter, like he's still 50% of this podcast. It don't matter if he just came in to help. Sweat equity is way more valuable than money bringing in because of the fact that he's coming with the unbiased opinion, and he's here to work and do everything, you know? I always tell people, I said, it's hard to do the podcast, but it's even harder to do it alone. Having, you know, and that's why I always tell people, I was like, me and you have done everything together. Meaning, and everything hasn't worked. Like, me and when I was shooting away, you shot weddings with me. When I did commercial, you shot commercial. When I did part of you, it's like-- - Because we've done a lot of different style of jobs, but it doesn't matter, as long as you're on the same page about things and communicate, then you can do anything. You can do anything as long as you have two people willing to work. - Sure. - Hey, this is what I need you to do, cool, I do that. Like, and it's the idea of knowing the roles. Like, yeah, this is what I need, okay, cool. Now he's doing this, cool. Now, you know, it's because of the fact that you've seen so many podcasts break up and not even make it that. Five, you know, we kind of sit back and look and slide over five years. - Doing something for five years is hard for anybody to do. - Yeah, 'cause when you first did this, you said you wanted to do two a week and no current events. And I was like, that's tough, because you need to have an endless supply of topics. But, you know, as your life moves on, the topics just come. And like, you have a lot of friends you talk to, shit comes up all the time. - All the time. - We go out all the time. - And shit comes up when we're just out. And we're like, oh, this is no 500 episodes of non-current events. Like, imagine if we talked about shit that just, you know, that we clown about every day. - Yeah, 100%. - In sports or whatever, you know. - This could be easy. This could be a walkin' apart. I just, my whole goal with this was like, I wanna make it timeless. I wanna make it so you can listen, you can start from wherever you wanna start at. And understand that these rules still apply. The topics build up and grow and adapt as life goes on and things change a hundred percent. 'Cause as you change, your questions change. - Think about if we, if you started this podcast when we were in the early 20s, what would it be talkin' about? You know, like we wouldn't have experience. It'd be a little reckless. - It would be a lot of reckless. - Our friends would be talking reckless shit too. - It'd be a lot of reckless. - Maybe not as helpful as people. - As it is now, 100%. - You know, but we've been on both sides. The young, wild side and now we're way more mature about things. - I think that's what helps it too because I always tell people, "Hey, buddy, you can't tell me anything that you've done that me and my friends haven't already done in twice over on Sunday." - Experiences. - Experiences. Like people are hard and positive. I was like, "Duck, let me show you this, Bill." So I always stayed over here, "Duck." Like, I did it, but let me show you this already. - Yeah. - Like, well-traveled. - We're also lucky that you think about our graduating high school class. I'm a little bit before you. Some of those people are not tech savvy and don't know how to navigate through the world. And I'm like lucky that I was able to be on both sides. - Yeah, bro. Not even that. Like, you gotta realize that we got lucky because circumstances in our life never weathered our friendship. You know, because I made it a point to, I understand that you are here, but understand that these friends of mine are here, too. And it's the fact of the matter is I get it, but- - It helps that we're also young by heart. You know what I mean? Like a lot of people our age, including our friends, are married with- - Kids. - 100%. 100%. - And does it work well because we have been, you know, dating off and on and dating different women and being single and, yeah, it does help, but I don't think it would have changed it. I think we were just like, I was already set to like, this is what I'm doing. This is going to work. This is going to get us where we need to be. - I mean, you were laser focused on it. And I know you just started it to... You want to, you missed those house parties we used to have at the house and you wanted to hang out with the friends. - 100%. - And I was with you when you bought this equipment. - I had to go- - Had you tracked hours in traffic for this. So I was like, okay, he's pretty determined for this. - Yeah, and then like, and I tell people like, the moment I started cutting it down, the moment I started doing animation, the moment like even now, like I tell people, I said, it's that laser focused mentality. I mean, there is a thing that Ice Cube said that kind of sat with me and let me see if I can find it. But it was just one of those things. I think I was talking to my sister early today. And here it is. Let me see. - It put five, I ain't into anything- - Here's my one. - Without making up lumber. Ready to put five years of grind into anything. - Here's my one. - Without making a quarter. - Right. - Don't even start. Sometimes it takes that long to get over the hump. A lot of people want checks. But bosses cut checks. We want the money, but we also gotta use the money to make the money. So it's really about having that mentality that we're ready to work. The reward comes when you get down and you get on your grind. Do not complain about what you didn't get from the work you didn't put in. - And to be honest with you, that's where I started getting to like, okay, like, this is what we're doing. And like, I mean, me and you always talk and it comes to the idea of like, you know now evolution and now we sit down and we talk and I tell you like, this is what I'm trying to do and this is what I think we can do and this is what I think we should do it. And you're like, yeah, what do you need me to do? And I'm like, okay, then I'm going to need to do this. And he's like, all right, come on, let's do it. And it's the idea of like, people talk about those Derek Jeter's, those Michael Jordan's, those Kobe Bryant mentality where it's like, the idea of willing to put in the work and just keep on mastering the craft. Like it's going to get there like, you don't know where it is, but it could be tomorrow. And that's what I always, you know, I always tell people, I was like, you see it as damn, you've been doing this all this time where I see it as, I see the people that have those checks and that are making that type of money and being able to solely just do that and make the money. Those people put in the four and five years where nobody knew them, the Joe buttons, the Joe Rogan's, you know, there were hundreds of episodes they put in where they're at like 700 and they're at a thousand where you're like, like Joe button talks about all times like four and a half years, nobody gave me a cent. He said, I barely started making money off this four and a half years ago. - Yeah. - He's got one of the biggest positive. - They call him the pop father. Okay, like there's people that did not start this Joe Rogan. He just wanted to have him talk to his friends. - Yeah. - Didn't even care about the money. - He didn't care about the money. And people asked me, I was like, oh, you know, you're trying to, I said, it's gonna come. I said, I said, I started this with the intentions of just having fun with my friends. I said, I started getting back into designing and having fun cause I always made my own shit. Like, and now my shit. - Now, now when mother can see my designs and my logo and my merch, they're like, oh, okay doc, I remember where you started. - I remember to blow the whistle shirt. - No, the whistle around here. - Bro, I'm right to you with the black marker. - I remember where you started. And now people are like, how can I get some merch? How come you not selling it? I said, because like I'm growing the brand. Like now the merch is like, I see everybody you give it to, they fuck with it, you know? - Yeah, and it's like, it's like, damn, like doc, come on, what's up? And I'm like, nah, I got you. Like, and it's just because it's like, no doc, like. - Advertise, dude. - Advertise it, and now you can see like, okay, like doc, he put the craft in, he put the work in, he put the, you know, and I said, yeah, now me and coy put the work in, we sat down, we came up with a plan and like, I tell people,