The Joe Rogan Experience - #2553 - Andrew Huberman

Andrew Huberman, PhD, is a neuroscientist, author, and host of the "Huberman Lab" podcast. His latest book, "Protocols: An Operating Manual for the Human Body," will be available on September 22.www.simonandschuster.com/books/Protocols/Andrew-D-Huberman/9781668032145www.youtube.com/@hubermanlabhttps://hubermanlab.substack.comwww.hubermanlab.com Perplexity: Download the app or ask Perplexity anything at https://pplx.ai/rogan. Get a free welcome kit with your first subscription of AG1 at https://drinkag1.com/joerogan Switch today at https://www.Visible.com for just 25/mo. Or Save $10 on your first month of Visible+ Pro with code ROGAN. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Duration: 2h 50m
Broadcast on: 14 Sep 2026
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- Joe Rogan, what a thick-ass book you wrote, sir. - Yeah, I figure it doubles as a doorstopper or a weapon. Yeah, it's designed to be red front to back, learn a lot of science, a lot of health protocols, but you can also just decide, "I want to get better at managing stress," go straight to that chapter, look up what you want to do, say, "Oh, I already do that, go to the next thing," and use it sort of like a manual. - This is a very ambitious undertaking. It took me just shy of eight years. - The operating manual or an operating manual for the human body, that's a lot. Like, just sitting down there in front of the computer thinking, "I'm going to write an operating manual for the human body." - Well, it didn't start off like that. At first, it was a book about the autonomic nervous system, stress, sleep, focus. Then it evolved. Then I had a third completely new rewrite, and my good friend now, honored to call him a friend, but he's just such a good dude, Rick Rubin, was like, "Do you like it?" And he goes, "Scrape it." I'm like, "What?" And then he said, "I'm going to get myself in trouble." He goes, "Scrape it, man. What are you doing?" And I said, "You have to love it." And then he said, "They're going to push you to release this thing." And I said, "I already said I was going to release it. I did it again." And then I did that again. I was going to visit him in Europe each summer, and we'd sit together, and he goes, "Let's read some stuff together." But with Rick, what that means is you sit there, and he reads you and how you're reacting to the material. So we barely read any of it, I was just talking about it, and he goes, "It's not ready." I go, "What do you mean?" He goes, "It's not ready. You're not ready." And so then this year, finally, with this book, we were in Europe this summer for our friends' wedding. My team was over there, and my girlfriend and I were traveling. She was so understanding. But I was doing edits from 9 p.m. until 2.30 in the morning, every single night, and waking up the next morning. This book has been, "Why are you on vacation?" Yeah, I owe her a real vacation now. She was working, too, but she was asleep in those hours. And we stopped by Rick's, and he's like, "How's it going?" I'm like, "It's there." And he's like, "He just checked in." He's like, "It's there." He can just feel it. He's such a fucking weirdo. I mean, he has this supernatural ability to feel where people are at, but not get absorbed

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