The Joe Rogan Experience - #2411 - Gavin de Becker

Gavin de Becker is a security expert and the founder of Gavin de Becker & Associates, a firm specializing in threat assessment and protective services. He is the author of several books, including his most recent, "Forbidden Facts: Government Deceit & Suppression About Brain Damage from Childhood Vaccines."www.gdba.com www.skyhorsepublishing.com/9781510785953/forbidden-facts/ Perplexity: Download the app or ask Perplexity anything at https://pplx.ai/rogan. Get a free welcome kit with your first subscription of AG1 at https://drinkag1.com/joerogan Visit https://blackriflecoffee.com/joe-rogan and use code ROGAN for 30% Off Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Duration: 2h 37m
Broadcast on: 13 Nov 2025
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[MUSIC] >> The Joe Rogan, experience. >> Train by day Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day. [MUSIC] >> All right, sir. >> I will, thank you very much. >> Great to see you, as always. >> Good to see you too. >> You got a bunch of notes, you got a lot of things to talk about. >> Yes. >> We were starting to talk outside, we're like, hold this, hold these thoughts. Let's bring them in here. >> Well, here's where I am. As a criminologist, I take a different approach to things. I'm not obviously a doctor or a scientist, thankfully. And as a criminologist, you get a view of the world that's quite interesting. And so I took a deep dive into pharma, but I want to put that off for a second. Cuz I know you know a lot of these CIA operations like paperclip. Where we bring over people who are working on bio-weapons from Japan and from Germany and we don't prosecute them and we use them to be the beginning of the US bio-weapons program. And I know you know MK-Ultra and Mockingbird, but do you know the one called Project Gladio? >> No, I do not. >> Put your seat belt on cuz this one just tops it all. So this was World War II ends and the OSS, which was the CIA at the time, decides to leave behind rather than take everybody home, all the American soldiers. They're gonna leave behind a bunch of them. Hey you guys, hide your weapons, hide your rifles, secrete all the grenades and ammunition and put it in bunkers. And just sit tight until we have some ideas of things you ought to do. So eventually a few hundred of them stay behind and they are gonna do things in Europe to stop communism, to stop socialism, to fight the Soviets, etc. But what are they actually end up doing is terroristic incidents against our allies. They blow up a train station in Bologna. 285 people injured, 85 people killed, done and funded and operated by our CIA. They do the 1989 assassination of a guy who's a journalist. Who's writing about this, they shoot him twice in the head. They do another bombing, 17 people killed. Another one, Oktoberfest in Germany, not Italy, 17 people killed, why? Because they see that certain candidates are doing well and might become prime ministers for example or important legislators. So when you have a big giant terrorist incident done in some train station for example, that moves the public toward a more right leaning government or a more totalitarian government that CIA can deal with. And away from anything where communism can happen. There's the assassination of Aldo Moro. He was a former prime minister, five body guards.

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