(upbeat music) - Hey, what's going on? This is the Saturday Down South podcast. I am Connor O'Gara. Will, it's a good thing that the SEC has UT. See what I did there, see that? Yeah. Pick your poison, whichever UT you wanna call, UT. The SEC calls Tennessee, UT, not Texas, but let's just say it's a good thing that the SEC has UT because otherwise, man, the anti-SEC takes would have been, I mean, they already were out in full force, but if not for those two, just making an absolute statement away from home, I think we'd be talking about the conference as a whole with a much different center, not the best week, I think, for the SEC. But, and I realize Georgia and Ole Miss, you're doing your thing, but nobody watched you play cupcakes on Saturday, so forgive me for not including you. The fact that the SEC is already kind of taking it on the chin from some people is telling. It shows us that we are in mid-season form. Will, this is your first recap pod of the season after you were in Vegas last weekend. How are we feeling? How was a full day, how was 14 hours of football getting the juices flowing again? It was great, man. I still have COVID, so I'm a little bit hazy. As I was watching the games, I was remembering, I was like, dang, I was pretty up and down. I was like, very much like, oh, this team's gonna blow this team out, I was like, not safe for a lot of my picks. I was like, huh, so yeah, I think this next week, I'm gonna go ahead and actually write down scores and stick with them. So, because hopefully it won't be as COVID-addled and be able to like stick with stuff, but yeah, it was super fun, man. I just love the sport so much. You're good, though, you had COVID brain. You're fine. Exactly. Whereas, a lot of my predictions, if you are a sicko, I want to go back and listen to them. Didn't age particularly well. I don't want to say they age like an avocado, but they didn't really age much better than that at a lot of key places where I was like, holy cow, did not see that coming, but that just kind of goes to show you that happens a lot with week two of this season. And it was a strange week as a whole. Very, very strange week two. All these things that we felt like we knew, we're gonna get to some Notre Dame things later where we do overreaction or proper reaction. We have Bama, USF things that we'll get to at the end here, but yeah, it was a strange week two. Little housekeeping. So, first of all, we got the new mic stand here for the YouTube audience. Shout out to you. Looking fresh, looking professional, we love it. We'll definitely bought this for me. SCC media days, I had this thing ready to go. And just one of those things that have not had the time to be able to set it up and finally said Friday, you know what, I'm doing this. So we looked a little bit different. Also might sound a little bit different. So we're still trying to figure out the exact flow of like Sunday mornings and stuff. I try and line it up with Claire's nav schedule as much as possible. She's out for a walk right now. Claire learned how to walk. So, huge milestone. - Huge milestone. - Huge milestone. But this is the for, like parents, like you kind of get what I'm talking about here. This is the first weekend where she realized she could walk. So she's been all over the place. - She's been traveling. - She really is. There's a whole world out there that she is trying to explore and trying to see one step at a time. And she just might, she absolutely might. So if you hear a 16 month old baby in the background, a little bit of grace, I'll do the best I can to try and make sure that that noise is kept to a minimum. But week two, let's get into it. Well, let's start with Texas and Michigan because look, if we're looking for an SEC Bragg stat, if the canals of the world are like, hey, you know what, SEC is terrible. Five and six against core four teams so far through two weeks, that's my stat, not his. All you have to do is say, look, DK, there's only one core four team who has a road victory against an AP top 10 team. And that is Texas. I actually kind of hate that 'cause it excludes Northern Illinois, future latter of the week, by the way, Northern Illinois. Having said that, what a statement and win that was for SARC and the Longhorns in Ann Arbor, went into Michigan and just bullied the team. That's been doing a whole lot of bullying the last couple of years. It is a very different era. I think Michigan fans who went into that game, are thinking, we're still gonna be just fine. It's still Michigan. It's the tradition that we have with this coaching staff. We're gonna be just fine. I know it's a lot of new pieces, but not to worry. Nope, first Michigan loss in front of their home fans. So that's excluding 2020 since 2019 against Ohio State. Justin Fields was the last quarterback to go into Ann Arbor and win a game. Probably equally deflating for Michigan fans. Compared to this, speaking of Ohio State will. I don't know if you caught this. Sometimes I tune out some of the pregame conversation 'cause it's a good opportunity for those of us that watch like a million of these games. It's a good opportunity to go and do other stuff. I feel like, all right, I'm gonna go, this is where I gotta go to the bathroom. I'm gonna go get something to drink, whatever. I like Joel Cloud a lot. I really do, but I do think he dips into the canal water a little bit too much at times. That's a lot of DK mentions. DK is great too, but for the most part, I think if you're just talking about game analysis in game, show me something that me, the viewer at home, can actually take from watching you provide insight. I think he does a great job at that, strictly that. But he said before the game that the thinking was that Texas would be like the Ohio State teams that Michigan has been beating and that the Wolverines would try and show that they're more physical. I hated that take when he said it. I hated that take in the middle of the second quarter. I hated that take so much by the end of the game. And I think even if you're a Michigan fan, you looked at that and went, wow, Texas just took our soul. They took our lifeblood. That was both sides of the ball, by the way. Didn't matter that Texas didn't have your boy, Bo Davis anymore. Didn't matter that they didn't have sweat, they didn't have Murphy. Those guys looked awesome upfront. Michigan couldn't run the ball. Michigan could not run the football longest. And that's all they can do, famously. So if they can't do that, they're out of luck. One-dimensional offense that had zero dimensions working in its favor. Longest one of the day was 12 yards. They lit up 82 sack adjusted rushing yards, 3.7 yards per carry. And again, this was supposed to be their MO. And instead, they ran into this Texas defensive line that yeah, has some new pieces on there, but still Alfred Collins is a guy that they were expecting to do big things coming back. And so far, he looks the part. Trey Moore was a big time transfer coming over from UTSA. And then the freshman Colin Simmons, I mean, that guy looked like a man possessed. He's not exactly at Dylan Stewart levels just yet. We're going to get to Dylan Stewart a little bit later, South Carolina fans. But man, they showed the world that if you have a two quarterback system, you have a no quarterback system. It was terrible. It was absolutely terrible. Like they both got picked off. Like those Michigan quarterbacks had no rhythm whatsoever, 58 minutes without a touchdown in that one. And on the other side of the ball, how about this? That Michigan defensive line is the strength of their team with Mason Graham and they're a group that is going to need to win that battle up front. If they're going to have any chance whatsoever at the playoff, Texas didn't let up one sack. And that's thanks in large part to how stinking good when yours was. Everything he did at Bama last year, he did at Michigan in this game this year. Because look, I'll agree with you. I don't, even though I am very much in the Pro Uers camp, I think he's one of the nation's best quarterbacks, I don't think he does any one thing better than anyone else in college football. Is that fair? I think we agree on that point, right? Yeah, no, I think he's just like a well-rounded, solid player. But like the off-platform throws that he makes, he has gotten so good at that. And it used to be, look at the arm talent with those off-platform throws. This is truly special. That's kind of what first made me went back when he was 16, 17 years old ago. This kid is very, very different. But now that he's put it together with the poise, like just, I mean, go ask an Auburn fan what it's like to have a quarterback that keeps his eyes up, downfield, instead of just-- Who knows? Yeah, Kentucky fans, like what that's like. I mean, you just saw it. And when, like, it just feels like when the moment is big, he just kind of lives for it. And it's called the clutch team, whatever you want to call it, man. He was awesome. When Jaden Blue went down in that game and he limps to the sideline, Texas fans are like, Oh gosh, this is bad. We already know two scholarship running backs get hurt and camps. He's your backster being one of them. And it was like you were said, oh, OK, no big deal. I'm actually going to get better right now. And Jaden Blue, fortunately, ends up returning. And he catches a little swing pass that he beats Michigan defenders to the pylon, to show some nice birds being able to do that. But I thought Texas just played a championship level game on the road. And two things can be true at the same time, because I know these are going to be popular takeaways from this. One is that Michigan is going to endure a legitimate regression coming off of a championship season. There was, in my opinion, zero doubt going into this one. And there is obviously a whole lot of confirmation that Michigan is due for a step back. And at the same time, I think that if-- even if Michigan is still an 8 in 14, which that's kind of what-- where I think they're heading this year, I don't think they make the playoffs. Perhaps the only smart prediction that I made, by the way, was that Michigan, or whoever lost this game, would not compete for a national title. Michigan will not compete for a national title. But the other side is that Texas checks a very important boxes to be able to win like that. And it doesn't mean that Texas is destined to a national championship, because they beat a very young and experienced Michigan team, but the perceived weaknesses that we talk about, like with the past catchers, all that turn over, Sark talked about the depth. You don't have to save your worthy. You don't have 80 Mitchs anymore. What's it going to look like? Those guys were awesome. The defensive line looked darn good. And if anything, we're kind of seeing a three-headed rushing attack blossom behind a quarterback that's getting better and better. It doesn't mean that they can withstand every injury that comes up, but they just look the part in every single way. And I think Texas is a legitimate national title contender and not the team that lost. Wait for the 14 non-conference games from 2010 to 2022. - Goodness. Yeah, no, I'm right there with you, man. It just goes to show how Texas is built, right? Like you talked about the line play that makes you kind of recession-proof in a way, especially when you go on the road, right? Which is what Texas has done. Two years in the road, kind of like silence the critics. And I think exactly to your point, like if, you know, we expected a regression from Michigan, sure. If there were one thing that we could kind of hang our hat on, it is that D-line play in the physicality that Michigan has been known for, especially against the Texas team that just straight up was like a step away from playing receivers at running back, right? And that's the funny thing about it is that, you know, you don't have any of these like factor backs from Texas that are common in the Sarkeesian system. Like usually it's like, oh, this running back versus this defense, and it's kind of ironic in a way, right? Because when Texas had those backs, they weren't as complete of a football team. But now it's like, you know, the Texas rushing attack, whoever that might be at this point in time versus the opponent, and I'm gonna take that and pretty much every game going forward after seeing this one, because it's like, it really, truly doesn't matter. You don't need to have some guy out there, you know, a bee john making three people miss behind the line of scrimmage and putting the whole offense on his back. It's like, no, these running backs are gonna have three yards of space before they even touch the football. They're gonna be able to rumble forward behind this huge offensive line. They have Queen Ewers who's gonna be the focus of the offense. It's gonna take the pressure off of them. The whole defense is gonna be spending their time figuring out what Queen Ewers is gonna do. They're gonna get after him, but he's like sturdy, he's smart, he's gonna make the off platform throws. So you're gonna need to send pressure most of the time just to affect him. And even when you do that, it's not really gonna help you run game or you run defense. So yeah, I think this was just one team bullying another team, and I think that that's crazy when you think about Texas. And the fact that, you know, it should be a lot bigger of a hurdle for Texas to be as good as they were last year than Michigan, right? And I mean, this looked like one of the Michigan teams from before the COVID era. And this is exactly what we used to see when Michigan was losing the Dan Mullen, when Michigan was this soft team that would show up and their alumni would be taken over the town, they'd bring a million fans with six pieces of gear each, they would show up to the game, get punched in the mouth, and then go home and then they would just look like losers. And it's like this Michigan team has no excuse to, you know, get pushed around the way they did. Sure, if Queen Ewers has 400 passing yards, you take that. But like this was certainly, I mean, like the way that Loveland fumbled was weird, the way that like, they just looked like they had not been there before. They don't think the lights were too bright. And this is a team coming off of a national title. So I don't know where you find answers there because it's like, they saved over their progress. It's like they were this team last year that got to the top of the mountain and now they have no idea how to win. It's very interesting. Michigan definitely include Auburn fans in this, which we will get to, there are a select group of fan bases that have this post week two clarity of dang, I really wanted this to work at quarterback and it can still work. Obviously, you know, remember last year how we were talking about Mill Road at this time of year? Of course, it's very, very different. Texas tends to do that to things. PK, our guy tends to do that to people. But there's this group of teams that I think is realizing, man, it would have been nice to get a quarterback in the portal would have been real nice. And I'm not saying that covers up all of Michigan's issues. It definitely doesn't. They still have some issues on the back end of that defense where like you just saw if it's a quarterback that can kind of keep plays alive with his legs and he stays behind the line scrimmage. Will Johnson's great. He's tremendous. There's a reason why that guy's the number one player and cultural ball 25, but they have issues in coverage on the back end. If they're not going to consistently be able to generate pressure and you just kind of saw that. You saw that play out, man. And I think that yours is going to be-- deserves to be the headline, absolutely deserves to be the headline of this one, any sort of Heisman conversation that we're having in early September. Obviously, he's part of it. Take that for what it is. But it is truly crazy to think about this transformation for Texas because even this was an important step. Last year, they go into Bama and yeah, they had buzz to win that game. Bama's still favored. Bama's still favored at home. I expected Bama to win that game last year. If you're Texas at that point, you can still play up the nobody believes in us card, even though there were people that definitely believed in them. And you could still kind of make out this case of like, yeah, you know what, we're kind of the-- we're trying to show where the power that's returning, that's back, however you want to phrase it. And in this game, they're a touchdown favorite on the road against the defending national champs. Biggest stadium in college football. And they come in there and they just silence that crowd. Yours in Texas, that offense converted eight-third downs in the first half. And it felt like more. I mean, every single time-- and Gunnar Helm, by the way, talk about like one of the returners that's doing some very, very big things. He already looks like he's going to be a go-to target for yours in that offense. But like, everything that Sarc did in that game was we are better than you. We are going to out-scheme you. We are going to be more physical than you. And you are going to know it by days. And there's going to be no doubt whatsoever. And there really wasn't. Like, it wasn't-- nothing about that was flooky. And I think Texas deserves a ton of credit. Even if Michigan ends up being 7 and 5 or something, that's what you would expect the National Championship contender to do in a place like that with those kinds of stakes. So even if you want to kind of discredit Texas, I'd say, try and look at the bigger picture, man. Those are the types of games that you need to be able to have if you're going to be one of these teams that's in the National Championship conversation. Condor, for the second year in a row, Texas becomes the first team to fully legitimize itself with a big road win. Are we ready to say it yet? Is Texas back? I'm closer there than-- look, I predicted Texas go 12 and no in the regular season. So I predicted that Texas would indeed be back. Texas was predicted in my playoff projections to have the 5 seed, which don't go back and look at my playoff projections. You don't need to see that. Don't do that to yourself or to me specifically. I'm not going to go there just yet. I'm not going to go there just yet, because if Texas goes 8 and 4 against this schedule, misses the playoff, and we see this window with yours closed, I think we're having a very different conversation. Florida State is a good reminder of why championship windows are a little bit more precious than perceived. So I won't go there just yet, but man, every box, they're just checking. And there's no more poking fun at Texas anymore for losing in September to Maryland or BYU. They are so far removed from that, it's crazy. And to me, this game was just a really good indication of it. Texas is-- I mean, any sort of top tier in the SEC. They are there with Georgia. It's Texas and Georgia. And in my opinion, everybody else, maybe Ole Miss is going to join that conversation. Maybe Bama's going to have better days. Maybe Mizzou's going to have really good days, really good start for that defense. But I just-- Yeah, I think after last year Ole Miss is there a net. But like, their non-conference is not going to be the sign to me that shows that they are worthy of being part of that just yet, of like that tier one. Because if we're talking about tier one, we're including Georgia in that. Do we think Ole Miss and Georgia are in the same tier? Just, yeah, maybe they can be. Maybe they can be. Maybe they play a good competitive down to the wire game. But I think that I would just reserve Texas and Georgia for that right now. Make sense? All right, let's go on to another team that's knocking on the door tier one. Tennessee will. Wow. Man. They smoked those boys. Whoa, golly. I regret saying that NC State would cover. I fully expected to come on here and lead with a Niko take. But I won't do that because I feel like it would be slightly disrespectful to do so. Not disrespectful to Niko. But I'm going to instead lead with an apology here. I need to apologize to Tim Banks and his Tennessee defense. I do. I do. Many apologies from me today. It was a very introspective week too. All offseason. I thought about the turnover that they were having in that secondary. Five new pieces there. And you could look across college football and be like, oh, yeah, that guy was on Tennessee last year. Oh, yeah, that guy was on Tennessee last year. And I just kept saying, look, the defensive line we think is going to be extraordinary. But what happens when they don't dominate up front? For now, we don't have to worry about that because guess what? They dominate up front. And they're winning those balls. People are asking what would happen if I didn't win. I guess we'll never know. I mean, as of right now, we're not finding out. Maybe we'll go at some point. But who knows? Maybe they'll just mess around and win every single battle up front for the entire season. Maybe with the exception of the Georgia game. So far, it looks so unbelievably good. Tennessee had 13 TFLs in this game and only allowed 10 first downs. And I'm pretty sure James Pierce Jr. didn't have a single TFL. He had two quarterback. I think he had two hurries or pressures. I can't remember which one. But NC State in this game had 143 yards of total offense. That's it. Basura. The only NC State score was a pick six, which means that Tennessee's defense still has not allowed a touchdown this year. The Tennessee defense did have a pick six of its own, which came via walk-on Wilbrookes, still a walk-on Wilbrookes. And it actually came at a very pivotal point of the game. If you're watching, it looked like NC State was about to make it 10-6 or 10-10. Like it was a really important juncture in that boom. Tennessee defensive line kind of forces the pressure, Grayson McCall, Aaron Mills, the running back on the flat, and a walk-on is going the other way to the house. Tennessee's defensive walk-ons have more touchdown scored this season than their opponents in 120 minutes of football. That'll play. That's pretty darn good. That game all around was very impressive by Tennessee, because they won 51 to 10. And it felt like they could've won by more. I mean, kind of an ideal scenario if you're a Josh Hyple, because you get some teachable moments for Nico with the turnovers. One was a ball that was overthrown in the middle, and the game was a lot closer. And then another, he was kind of hit by that front-side pressure as he was throwing. It's just one of those plays where you get a little bit more of a sense in the pocket. You can kind of-- the footwork takes care of something like that. But he did end up just having 23 passing attempts in this one with a very ground-heavy approach. I said it would not surprise me at all if he, after this week of buzz, has less than 25 pass attempts, because Hyple's going to say, let's do what we do best. Let's run the football. Let's play a defense win that battle. And don't you know what they did? Remember when I said that the over-under for Tennessee rushing yards was 240? Wow. 249. Yep. Pretty good. Pretty good. I'm starting to think, and Tennessee fans, you let me have it for a couple of things, but for this specifically, I'm starting to think maybe I should have given Dylan Samson a little bit more consideration, even as an all-banging the drum team member to be the SEC's leading rusher, because Marcus Carroll is very much at a shared backfield at Mizzou for the time being. And Samson is 256 rushing yards on 32 carries this year. 169 scrimmage yards in this game. That guy is a problem. He is awesome. If you have not seen Dylan Samson play football yet, I suggest you watch. And Tennessee fans, you're clamoring for this guy to be able to get more run last year. Jalen Wright was a great player. But man, this guy is so effective in this offense. Tennessee as a whole is a problem. And I'm starting to think I probably underrated them coming into the year by saying that they were an 8-4 team. And I don't necessarily think this all of a sudden means that they're going 11-1 or something like that. But here's something I was thinking about. Tennessee fans, I'm sure you've been on the internet making this case for last, what, 12 hours, basically. How many teams right now, if I had an AP poll vote, would I rank ahead of the vaults? Georgia, Ohio State, Texas. Those are the definites, OK? I think they've earned it. I would pick them to-- if we're doing the Josh Pate School of Thought, I would pick them to win in a neutral site, no doubt. After that, though, Ole Miss, Miami, USC, I'd probably rank those teams ahead of Tennessee. But I definitely have to think about it. That might be it, though. That might be it, because think about it. Not Notre Dame, not Michigan, not Utah, not Mizzou, not Oregon. We're going to have more on Oregon later. Yeah. I'd have no problem ranking Tennessee ahead of Alabama at this point. Yeah. I mean, how can you not? When you've actually played someone and you look the part, I think it's totally different. And I took it on the chin midweek. I tweeted out, we're doing weekly rankings. We can top 25 for SDS with all of us. And we're coming out with her consensus rankings. And I took some hate for having Tennessee only at 16 when they looked obviously masterful in the opener against an FCS team. And I said that a win against NC State would significantly change that. Tennessee being in the top 10 should be obvious. And that'll be known by the time people are listening. But if you tell me that the Vols are worthy of a top five ranking at this point, I don't think I'm going to talk someone out of that. And I did not expect to have that perspective going into this weekend. Yeah. I think it's very interesting with the national conversation on Tennessee is. Because people like for things to be easy, right? And when you have the year in 22 with a beat up, Emma, and it's like, OK, Hannah Hooker, I can believe in all this. All this makes sense. OK, cool. Can you take that weird step back last year? And I know we talked about it a lot, but it does really matter. Because this is what Josh Eiffel's offense looks like. I mean, this is like what we expect every year. And that would be the question is, OK, do you kind of have that sophomore hangover? What does the future of Josh Eiffel and the SEC look like? And we hit on it in this offseason. And I had to say we were right. But this is exactly what we were hoping for this Tennessee offense look like, which is that Emily, we have a being able to move the pocket and get these easy first downs, completely changes the complexion of what they're able to do. And furthermore, to your point about Dylan Samson, that guy's a beast the way that they're able to block things up. This is true about Tennessee. It's true about Ole Miss is something we've been talking about for years. It's easy to get caught up in the window dressing and talk about the vertical downfield passing and squirrel white and all that stuff. But in reality, Tennessee and Ole Miss both look like teams that want to be flashy. But in reality, their goal is to punch you in the mouth. And Tennessee has had phenomenal O-line D-lines, like kind of like I just talked about in Texas, kind of since the Hyperlayer started. That's one thing that they've covertly built the back end of May's and Pearson, those guys. And I think that you see the new version of the Hyper offense, where why did Josh Eiffel struggle at UCF? He actually really struggled with ranked teams. Struggled teams that were more talented than them. Well, why is that? Well, once you get off of the scripted plays, this offense kind of starts to flap in the wind. Why do you change that? You bring in dudes and they got some dudes, right? They got some dudes that make it so hard to get Tennessee off schedule. And that's what we saw last year is like, okay, if this offense gets off schedule, it can be a problem. If you take a negative play, if you take a penalty, if you're looking at second 15 and you're not able to run the ball or, you know, you're counting on those downfield passes to hit versus having them be a bonus. And I think that's what we saw against NC State. I mean, you saw NC State offense that was basically content to just, you know, chunk the ball down the field three and four yards at a time. And Tennessee's defense was just sitting there like a pack of wolves just waiting for them to make a mistake. You know, racing in McCall fumbled. It was OV every time they pounced on the football. And it was just a team that was playing within themselves and confident. And I think that, you know, now that we're seeing year two, three of these teams, like, you know, Texas, Mizzou, Ole Miss, Tennessee, teams that are kind of doing things that we haven't seen in the modern era with their logo on their chest. And it's not having to get yourselves up and kind of do the meme with the guys looking at himself at the mere point in himself. Like, you are a big team. Don't go out there and puke on your shoes. And it's like, no, this is the expected result. This is what I expected Tennessee to do to NC State because they're a better football team. They're more talented at the quarterback position. They have a guy who fits their system a little bit better. And I think we saw that. Because Grayson McCall is a great college player, but, you know, he's kind of like more of a free agent. And I think that when you see a guy like I will grow it to pick, you know, a guy like Amalayama, he doesn't need to have. Like we said, 400 passing yards to be successful. He just needs to be the conductor and be this orchestra of an offense. And I think more and more you're seeing this in college where it's not about the quarterback making the system. It's about the system fitting the quarterback because when you can isolate one player, you can beat a team. But I mean, like you said, you know, Amalayaba had a couple of picks here. He wasn't lights out. He only had just a north of 200 passing yards, but he did enough to make this offense a juggernaut. And that's the goal. The goal is not, you know, win the Heisman. The goal is not, you know, break records. The goal is win games, specifically on the road in these hostile environments where in the past, you've kind of struggled, you know, the Swab last year was a struggle. - Well, I go back to the very first podcast we did of this rendition. - Mm-hmm. - And it was right after Hypo was hired. - Mm-hmm. - We talked a lot about how much of a struggle it was going to be for Hypo to have the complimentary football. - Yeah. - To have a defense that didn't look like it hated the offensive side of the ball. And how that was going to be a major challenge in this conference and that you were really gonna have to get guys that understood you're gonna be on the field probably more than the vast majority of units in college football, you're going to need to have depth. And if you don't have depth and if you don't develop, you are going to get exposed and you're gonna put bad film out there. And that is not an easy thing to say, I think to a lot of guys. And by having the coordinator continuity that they do with Tim Banks, you're seeing it upfront. And it's why so far at least they've been able to withstand that turnover on the back end. It's because like you look at their front seven, everybody just knows where they need to be at all times. And having Pili back and healthy in that lineup is so, so huge veteran like that. And very, very important that he stays healthy in the middle of that defense. 'Cause I remember after spring, Elijah Herring, who was their leading tackler from last year, hit the portal. And I was like, this is like another bad sign for Tennessee's defense. And he kind of realized, dude might have been just struggling to be able to find a spot to play. And he ends up going to Memphis who, look, I praise Memphis for making an addition like that. But still, you kind of see they have depth and they do play complimentary football. It's an incredible thing for Tennessee to see and to see how far this program has come because man, even you're one of the hypo era, that's a game where I think NC State at least takes it down to the wire. It's a lot more competitive, even if you have Hendon Hooker out there. And instead, this was a game in which there was clearly a better team, clearly a better team. And I think Tennessee is absolutely going to be staying in this 12 team playoff conversation. I would have no problem ranking. I'm significantly higher than I did last week. - Yeah, and that's actually a good point too when it comes to complimentary football 'cause an easy way to keep the footballs run for 250, right? You know, that'll do it. And you out gain the opponent by 300 yards and you win the possession battle suddenly. You know what I'm saying? So that's a really, really good point where it's like, yeah, you know, it used to be 50 points at whatever cost. Now it's like, we want 50 points and we want it to be pretty. So I think that's a really good point whereas this team has gotten more comfortable winning these bar fight style games like Kentucky last year where it's like, it'll score 30 points but we'll score 30 aggressive points instead of the football. - You know what's pretty incredible too in that game? It wasn't even necessarily the big chunk plays where like in the opener where the deep ball is there and they're getting guys deep. Where you think about like the peak hypele, you know, Jalen Hyatt's got five yards of separation on Alabama's entire defense and it's scheme looks and guys with hands on hips that just don't look like they can compete with the tempo. And I actually thought at moments like NC State was handling that tempo and it wasn't necessarily a sign that they were that they were unprepared for it but they were just not winning those battles one on one. And to me, that's a credit to the versatility that this group has and they're going to be able to beat you in several ways. And I don't know that we've said that about any other hypele team, even the 22 team, they were still going to have, they had the number one offense in college football. You still felt like, all right, you're going to need to probably score 35 points to be able to win this game. - But in the rain, where'd that go? - And that's what they've built up. You know what I'm saying? At the end of the day, not to say that they could beat Georgia or anything but that's the style of game that they realized they couldn't win when they needed it wouldn't. And they were like, oh, yeah. So that's credit to Hyatt's. - Big transformation. All right, the only SEC conference game that we had in week two, man, it was decisive. South Carolina, Kentucky, we were long overdue for a Shane Beamer, double digit dog win. I don't know that it's, he turned a swag on. He did turn a swag on a little bit. Some glasses are so 20, 22, he said afterwards. Toby Keith went a little, how do you like me now? Not quite, not quite, not quite. - We'll get to it, but I think this is a little bit of a stoops puker to choose game two. I think because there's two sides to this dance. - Probably. Yeah, and look, here's all I need to know about how week to week this sport is and why people like us who talk about it for a living can look like we flip flop all the time or we just look really, really dumb. On this pod last week, I sounded the alarms for South Carolina after it barely beat Old Dominion. And if you barely beat Old Dominion, that's what you deserve. That's not being wrong to be clear. If you barely beat Old Dominion at home and you're coming off of a five win season, yes. I'm going to be critical. Apologies if that upsets people. South Carolina fans, it upset all of you. Okay, you get it. A week later, South Carolina flew home back to Columbia with a 25 point road win as a double digit dog and with it, it earned a visit from college game day for the first time in a decade for that game next week against LSU. South Carolina was like dead last in SEC power rankings because of how good of a week one bandi head. And here we are a week later being like, yep, got college game day back in the house. And for those that are like, wow, why would they go to LSU South Carolina that's not a particularly good game? - It's like bad. - Yeah, look, no bad Saturdays, no bad Saturdays. I know that's tough for Kentucky fans. But the slate is not exactly loaded with headliners. So you can take a deep breath and realize that there are not a whole lot of other options for college game day. But it is awesome. And it does speak to the week to week progress that South Carolina made. And it's crazy to think about how quickly things can change in this league. But at the same time, answer this. What about South Carolina's identity changed drastically with the performance that we saw in Lexington? Week to week, because the ground game, only a 98 sack adjusted rushing yards, three yards per carry. Lenora Sellers made nicer throws. Dow Logins did a better job of scheming guys open. There were enough of those plays where he's throwing into big windows and Kentucky had the defensive breakdowns. And that Kentucky defense looked gassed in the second half, they really did. But South Carolina added, they allowed 12 TFLs in this game. They allowed 12 TFLs. And one by 25 points on the road is a double digit dog. Somebody has that stat somewhere, like Bear Filika or somebody, Stanford Steve, how many times that's ever happened in football? Because that's wild. Nick Harbor still didn't get a touch in this game, though he did earn a DPI because they actually targeted him deep. And it turns out when you target the fastest human on the earth, you tend to get guys out of position a little bit. But let's point out the positive because South Carolina has the most obvious positive yet of the beamer era. Finally, finally, finally, finally. I don't even know if they had this during the must-champ era. They have a defensive line that can eat. They get after you. And it's not just Dylan Stewart and Tonka Hemingway, who by the way, looked awesome once again. TJ Sanders was great as well. Deepa Williams all over the place. This group as a whole looks like it is just playing downhill. Like it is starting at this steep, steep incline and everything they do is just like sprinting down a treadmill. And you're like, how are these guys getting off the ball so fast? Kentucky's big blue wall. It reverted back to the big blue gate. No chance. No chance whatsoever. That was an awful, awful, awful game for Brock Vandegrift to be a part of. We can talk about practice reps all we want. How many times of Brock Vandegrift's football life? Do you think he ever felt like he was at that big of a disadvantage? Like third grade, maybe? I don't think third grade Brock Vandegrift had appeared. I don't probably think it's the biggest advantage of ever. Third grade Brock Vandegrift was cut down trees and power lifting and power cleaning 250 pounds. All right, like I was thinking about that. Like how often do you think he's actually felt like that on a football field? Because if he's facing pressure like that, even though he obviously went to a very prestigious program as dad was the coach, you can usually escape that kind of pressure. Guy isn't really going to be able to bring you down when you're at that size. And he was so messed up that by the end of that game, when he actually got time to throw on that design rollout, that ball was right to Nick Emanward. Just right to him on that pick six. And you're like, this is awful. I mean, that throw was just, might as well just called out his name and said, Nick, here's a football for you. Awful, no good, very bad day for Kentucky's offense. When your buddy is subconsciously like, well, you know what? The quickest way out of getting chased by Dylan Stewart is just to throw this interception. It's like not good. Like the gentleman of 1.2 QBR the day. I don't even know where the 1.2 came from. I'm like trying to think of it. It's like, did they have a screen pass? He's three completions for 30 yards. I mean, if you didn't watch that game and if you just saw the box score, like Perry was texting me afterwards 'cause obviously, you know, Perry being a Georgia fan, he's like, you know, dialed into what Brock is doing. And he's like, dude, what happened? It's kind of hard to explain how ineffective Kentucky was throwing the football. The lack of trust that they had in him, and which is it, you know, is it chicken or the egg? Is it the lack of trust that they had in him? Or, you know, should they have given him more opportunities to be able to throw? Because they ran the ball actually okay. You know, it wasn't like they were lights out, but every time they were in an obvious, they were in an obvious passing situation, it was like third and 12. It was like, well, this is just an automatic sack or a pressure and he's gonna have to throw it away. And there's no chance. And I don't remember the last time I said that about South Carolina, like even John Kinlaw, those days, like it is going to be so difficult to game plan for the South Carolina defensive line. And now, next week, sneaky, awesome matchup with those LSU tackles trying to slow down that South Carolina pass rush. All of a sudden, we're talking about like one of the, like better strength on strength matchups. And the SEC like will, how much right now is an LSU fan? Are you looking at that going buddy? I know, I know we've got some NFL ready dudes on the outside. And that's supposed to be the anchor, but it's hard to feel particularly good when you've seen what this South Carolina pass rush is capable of. - Yeah, it's the same deal. It is like, yeah, I mean, LSU's best running back was John Emery, who tours ACL. So like they are not gonna have a factor back or a guy who can make people miss. So yeah, to answer your question, I hope they just kind of take some duct tape and put it firmly on a world Campbell's mouth before this game. So you didn't feel like, oh, we're about to go, go 10 rounds with these guys. This is gonna be heavyweight fight. No, no, no, no, no, just keep the full start staff. - Yeah, that would be a win for LSU. That place is gonna be rocking, as Beamer said, high noon, that kickoff will be. But yeah, I mean, it's kind of wild to think that South Carolina and Kentucky has turned into this one-sided matchup. You know, that's too straight for Beamer against Stoops. Before Beamer, Stoops had two losses to South Carolina. It was like, oh, Kentucky's an underdog to South Carolina. Again, Stoops is gonna go into Columbia. Stoops is gonna welcome South Carolina and he's gonna find a way to beat them. Like he used to just beat must champ every single year. And I know that those two guys do not get along. They do not like each other. Stoops is a whole, like Stoops in South Carolina. That's like the team that he dislikes the most, in my opinion, based on everything I've seen from him. But man, Beamer has just totally taken that. And I wish I'd listened to my preseason prediction when I said that South Carolina would go into Lexington 'cause I just think Beamer knows how to game plan against Stoops. And he's shown that he's been able to do that. Not to cold take Matt Jones on the, this is the path to nine and three for Kentucky thing. But it took us two weeks to realize that not everybody is going to be part of the playoff conversations moving forward. Huge win for South Carolina. Huge, huge win and definitely shows that they are not going to be a doormat in the SEC this year. - Yeah, yeah. I mean, really love kind of that bounce back mentality. Dow log-in, do you have avoided my wrath for an additional week? - You did. - The Noah Sellers, I mean, it's crazy 'cause he also got banged up early in the game, right? Like we saw some bonus Robbie Ashert, that's always fun. - Did you see it? - Beamer went like a full 90 seconds. - Yeah, he gave like a between two ferns style interview in the middle of this game. - I was like, this is a really good call out. - My McGrath like asked him, like basically like, the Noah Sellers going to the locker room, like, you know, what can we expect to see from Robbie Ashert? And he was like, for 90 seconds, Beamer defended basically why he got Robbie Ashert out of the portal. - This offseason, there are plenty of guys that came out, said, oh, we want to be guaranteed a spot but that kid over, it's like, brother, you're in the middle of an SEC, he's game like. - I know that the game has to be blue. - Yeah, you have like those who need to be doing something right now, brother, I appreciate the access. But yeah, no, I'm with you. It's like, it's interesting to see what this team is going to be because we still, we didn't really get to see what Noah Sellers is a rusher. I hate to just, like I said, put this all in Kentucky, but at the same time, like, man. I mean, it's like if there was something to do wrong in a football field, they really did it on Saturday. And I ask you this, like, is, you know, Stoops has these games every year. He has one to three of these games every year. I get it. I know this was nothing new. That being said, do you think this is one game or do you think this is kind of how this is going to look for them this year? - It felt like a bigger picture problem. It really did. Week two, you knew the fans were going to be fired up. SEC Nation was there. Shot on my guy, Cash Daniel, by the way. Doing great stuff with, he got to do a lot of stuff with SEC Network. Long overdue to be able to have Cash back on, but if Kentucky is not particularly relevant, obviously that's a little bit tougher to break down Kentucky. But the crowd was super into it. They didn't really get a true opener after all the rain delays last week. So the atmosphere was going to be good. It was going to be, you know, got the ABC treatment because that's what they're doing now with, you know, the ESPN ABC lineup. It was the only conference game of the day. So it wasn't a sleepy start or anything like that. Or, oh, they just discounted South Carolina. And it was, you know, a game that they should have won, but they couldn't find a way. They got dominated, man. Like, they got absolutely dominated. And it makes you wonder, has Stoops kind of lost his way? I think that's fair to ask. And I know I've been saying throughout this offseason, guys, I think this is it for Stoops of Kentucky. I think 2024 is the last year. That game certainly did not make me feel bad about that take. I'll say that. Like, and I feel bad because Kentucky does have strengths. Like, again, I mentioned how well they played in that front seven and they had a few of those coverage busts where, you know, just mistakes that you can't make. I wonder how much that is just being gassed, but they have strengths on that team. So it's not like they have nothing. And they like everybody has just given up. But man, what a disaster that was. And I actually like, I don't know that that's the type of game that Stoops always has because it's one thing to have that game happening in Georgia. But to have that happen, don't worry, buddy. We got next week for that. I know, right? And watch like next week with how random it's been so far, Kentucky's going to come out and play a four quarter game with Georgia. Like, that's just the way that this is going to work. And all of a sudden it's going to be like, oh, yeah, see that Carson Beck needed to put together touchdown drive late to be able to be Kentucky or something like that. But this is a troubling, troubling start to see that happen in SEC play where it just looked like they had no answers whatsoever to be able to stop that South Carolina pass rush. Yeah, no, I'm kind of there with you, right? Or it's like, I think that, you know, if you look at how this team's driving, they had 44 passing yards. You know what I'm saying? Like, at the end of the day, that's not something that Stoops has been super gung-ho about fixing period, right, throughout his career. So when you think about how it would need to look to fix what this team has wrong, and I'm just trying to imagine Stoops at this point in his career really digging in and being like, okay, I'm going to spend some extra time with the quarterbacks. I'm going to, you know, draw up some new passing schemes. I'm going to try find new ways to get Dane Key involved. Like, it just doesn't sound like something he's interested in doing at this point in his career. So, yeah, I'm kind of with you. Like, I love the thing that Stoops has done, but it just feels like he's just not fired up to be there. It just feels like this is not something. Like, it's like, if we can win this very specific way he likes to win, then he'll show up and be happy for it. But when it comes to the Daptor Die thing, I think that, you know, bringing in the church reporter back to him was like, this is it. I'm done, I don't need to worry about this anymore. And it's like, brother, what if that guy doesn't, shows up and isn't as advertised? Do you care enough objectively to get in there and go, "Okay, we got some Gavin Whimsett going on. What are we doing here? What's up for next week?" The answer is, I don't know, right? You saw what he said at SEC Media Days. Wouldn't be SEC Media Days if I'd have to talk about a new offensive coordinator, right? Every year in the 2020s, they have had a different offensive coordinator. And that's, of course, Liam having the two separate stints. But yeah, it is a team right now that is in desperate need of some answers because, buddy, if you thought South Carolina was gonna get after it up front, Georgia. Yeah, good luck with that, good luck with that. All right, well, Arkansas and Oklahoma State. This game was day drinking. This game was day drinking for Arkansas and here's why. When you day drink, you get that early buzz, it's light out, you're maybe with your buds, your girlfriends, whoever it may be. And you're wondering, at some point during day drinking, why don't we do this more often? This is great. You're wondering why life can't always be this easy. But then the buzz wears off. Maybe you take a nap, you wake up late afternoon, early evening, you haven't figured out what you're doing for dinner yet. You napped excessively, so your sleep schedule is a little bit messed up. You've got a slight hangover, depending on what age you are. Okay, I don't wanna generalize and say everybody gets hanging over some day drinking, but you know who you are. And you have that clarity and you realize how sobering day drinking can be. Arkansas fans, did I just describe your Saturday? Because that's what it was. That's what this game was. Sprinkle in like a few boot and rallies. And that was the Arkansas day. Certainly felt like a boot and rally when Arkansas got another overtime because Mike Gundy tried to kneel to set up a 41 yard field goal in overtime. I thought he deserved a lose for doing that. I really did. I was like, you have the best running back in college football. And you are kneeling to set up. And I realized Arkansas did a great job defending him. But I thought that decision was wild. Arkansas probably deserves a lose for how careless it was with football and the Pittman decision to go for it on fourth and four in a tie game with seven minutes left instead of kicking a field goal. Not great. I realized the context was Arkansas just missed a kick from that distance basically and the start of the fourth quarter. But the crazy thing about this game is that Arkansas hit the perfect day drinking buzz. Well, I think you texted me during that moment of when this was because Taylor Greene was making plays. Ali Gordon second couldn't get anything going against that Travis Williams defense. He had no runs longer than five yards for the first three quarters of this game. Yep. This was the day drinking buzz you aspire to get to. It was the exact scenario that Arkansas drew up to win this game. But those turnovers down the stretch were obviously really, really costly. I wonder with how this played out and how winnable it felt like it was at various points for Arkansas, obviously leading by double digits on the road against top 25 team. You always want to be able to have those games so frustrating when you can't close it out for anyone, much less a coach on the hot seat, admittedly, like Sam Pittman is. But you can't help but wonder, is that one game, that one day drinking Saturday going to be the one that we look back on and say, yep, that might have been the one that cost Sam Pittman his job. Like if he could have had that, how different would Arkansas season be? It doesn't mean that it changes the entire trajectory. There were still positives. It was still a positive to see that Arkansas defensive line. Look, as good as it did. There were still some great moments from Taylor Greene. I love Jaquinden Jackson. I actually texted my buddy Ben did like his dynasty draft where he picked Nico as number one pick. He is first running back. I told him, like, Jaquinden Jackson coming over from Utah. He's got that I should have talked about probably more in the preseason, but I'm like, go after him. In this offense, it's going to be fun to watch. And he's been really good. He was dealing with the cramps throughout the day, but like Arkansas actually has an identity, actually has an identity, has positives. And still, you look at the way this game played out in the context of the last couple of years with Pittman losing all of these one score games and you're like, man, when is this going to change? What am I going to do for dinner? I have a headache. This sucks. - Yeah, I love that. I mean, I'll say it's as simple as this. Arkansas's behaviors look like they were day drinking. They, I don't understand how, man, we talked about this in the preseason and it's like as much as we like Taylor Greene, as much as we like Jackson, as much as we like, you know, Bobby Greene, honestly, at this point, it's like somewhat, well has is not the problem. That's the thing, it has a beautiful catch. Like, I'm not even specifically talking to him, but it's these other guys, right? You know what I'm saying? It's like, this was the thing kind of stopping us from getting over the hump and it's like, look, with Taylor Greene, like you're going to have some plays where he like thinks the running back is coming the wrong way and like almost fumbles and I get that, but then they're going to be these plays that he just throws them all in this beautiful arcing rope and you've got to catch it. Like, I know it's shocking if you played Arkansas to see a ball exactly right there and not be a little bit off, I get that, but like, man, you can't let those chances get away. And I felt like, you know, we saw that over and over again. It was the game kind of went down the stretch, you know, guys getting hit in the chest, guys like just not exactly being on the same page. And I think part of that is, you know, just being in the new offense, new quarterback, I weirdly feel like Bobby Petrino is one of the better offensive minds in the game right now. - He's still got it, he's still got it, man, he does. - Yeah, you radicalized me there. I really do think he's a great offensive mind and like the fact that's why they were able to get up so early in Oklahoma State, but then when the pressure got there, it's like, you know, and that's what Sam Pittman's teams used to be. It was a team that would punch you in the mouth and just never take the foot off the gas. And now they've kind of gotten a little bit, you know, scared, bashful, whatever it would be. They're just kind of like, ooh, I don't know what's gonna happen. So yeah, I don't know, it's disappointing to have a team, you know, you're going, you're in double overtime and you lose by eight points, you know, it's like, how do you reconcile that when you're winning all day? It's like, I think I pick Oklahoma State to win, but not cover, but then, you know, when my eight points, it's, you know, so at the end of the day, I think, you know, the final score, it's kind of like the inverse of the Bama game, right? The final score is a really good to tell the story here, but at the same time, Arkansas put itself in a position to have that final score. So you're only as good as what the scoreboard says. So yeah, at the end of the day, like it's, I saw lots of good things. I'm not backing off of my Hopium fork and so's offense, but I totally get what you're saying here, which is that, you know, like we said in the preview, it's like, how many teams Arkansas going to be more talented than, very few. And so this is one of the teams where you were able to get them on the run. You were able to start pushing them around a little bit. And then in the end, you know, dude, that quarterback for Oklahoma State. Oh my God. Alan Bowman, I've been saying this forever. He plays 500, the game 500 with his receivers. He's just like, I get points for how high I throw this. Correct? That's the way that this works. Yeah. The finger guns that he did at the entire Arkansas bench. Oh my gosh, bro. That was just such a sicko's committee moment to do that after you're setting up like the, what was it? Yeah, cause they had art. That was when they were about to take the lead. I think it was, and they get deep in Arkansas territory and they show the replay. It's like, it was like the Kyron Lacey thing all over again. You're like, you just can't accept it. Kyron Lacey is a heck of a football player. This dude threw an absolute, like it looked like the throw that Milton had when he got hit by Watson, like in you was playing in the background. It was he was getting hit. It was an absolute duck. And this dude somehow comes down with it. And then you look at the quarterback and he's like, Hey, do it like the worst finger guns I've ever seen in my life. It's like, brother, do you think that was you? Like, it's gonna be that guy. Yeah, Lee. Yeah, that game was wild. Absolutely wild. Arkansas fans, I think there will be some positive moments ahead because you're doing a lot of those things that you hoped were going to be on the table for you in the preseason. But the fact that we're talking about this, this team still struggling in these one score games, man. Uh, those, those, those leads, those, those opportunities, they are precious and they can be very, very fleeting. All right, let's talk Kal and Auburn. Hand up. Hand all the way up here. I like to take accountability. There are a lot of people that do shows like this that have zero accountability whatsoever. They've never been wrong about it taking their life. Congratulations to them. I am not one of those people. I like to admit when I'm wrong, hand all the way up. I was wrong, dead wrong, to say that Peyton Thorne would be the SEC's most improved player and that this game specifically would show that year to year transformation took way too long to get to those nine completions. By the way, um, godly was I wrong, so, so wrong. The only thing that was right about with this game was when he got the ball on the final possession, I said at Lauren, I said, well, the only way that this ends is with another Peyton Thorne pick. And I could almost barely get those words out before he was just throwing it right out of Cal Defender. I don't even think he had a targeted receiver on that play. He was just like, you know what, I'm done. I got nothing left. You guys figured me out. I should probably not be doing this at this high of a level. I don't belong on this stage. It was so bad. This is a guy that, look, I understand the situation in front of him wasn't great with the right side of that Auburn offensive line. They're dealing with injuries, whatever. They couldn't really protect him. This is a guy that is entering year four as a college starting quarterback. He has played way too much football to look that bad on his home field against a team that boarded a plane and flew 2,500 miles with a bunch of three stars. And they did that to him? No excuse. Absolutely no excuse for Peyton Thorne's performance. It wasn't just him. But the fact that that felt dare I say even worse than 2023 was telling. I mean, it felt like we were watching the New Mexico State game all over again. That's what this game felt like. Thorne was so lost that at one point, they were trying to speed up the tempo because they were trailing late because that's what happens when you turn the football over five times. And he didn't realize that Cam Coleman had gotten banged up and Coleman tries to take himself out. But he can't because they're trying to run the tempo. And then Thorne looks his way at the line of screaming. He's like, oh, I got Cam Coleman's coverage. Maybe Cam Coleman should have been more demonstrative and just not run a route on this play. But instead he kind of haphazardly runs this route and Thorne throws him up this ball in single coverage that he just has no chance of getting whatsoever and it's picked off bad. Just bad, bad, bad in every possible way. And look, I'm not going to do the thing that Anthony Schwartz did on Twitter. I'm not just going to blame this on Brian Harson, okay? We can't do that. We cannot keep doing that. Because yes, there are elements of the Harson regime that still probably linger most notably at the line of scrimmage. I acknowledge that. But you cannot blame Brian Harson for the fact that Hugh Fries publicly, very publicly said that paying seven figures for a transfer portal quarterback was not worth it. And that he believed in year two of Peyton Thorne in this system. You cannot blame Brian Harson for that decision. So I went back and I thought about the quarterbacks that Auburn could have had in the portal. All right, I lied. I just thought about what Cam Ward would look like in an Auburn uniform. And think about this. If Auburn fans, let's just say Auburn fans, and the program as a whole, the collective, everyone associated with Auburn, if they could have gone in December, like December. And I said to them, I'm going to give you a crystal ball. You're going to be able to look two weeks into the college football season. You're going to see what Cam Ward's doing. You're going to see what Peyton Thorne's doing. How much do you think they would have been willing to pay for Cam Ward? Because I think that number's like $3 million. Yeah. Way more than just barely getting into seven figures. OK? It might be Hank Brown time. It already might be Hank Brown time. Hank Brown. Knowing Thorne, he's probably going to light up New Mexico. Not in New Mexico state. So different. No, I was about to say what. Knowing different, totally different. Maybe he's going to be dark in song. Although I don't really know if he's going to be able to farewell against that defensive line. And maybe he's going to convince Hugh Freeze that he deserves to be the guy. I don't know. Hugh Freeze loves Peyton Thorne clearly. And Peyton Thorne has done a masterclass of convincing coaches that he deserves to come back after dreadful performances. But I mean, goodness gracious. That was so bad, Will. It was so unbelievably bad. No defending it. Yeah, well, there's lots of defending it. [LAUGHS] Yeah, this is what it be, right? Because I truly-- No, it's not. No, it's not. Do not blame yourself. No, listen. I took my hat or hat off. I had not seen anything but most of her from Peyton Thorne. And I thought to myself, I'm going to listen to everyone. They're going to figure this out. And I blinked at the last moment. I've always thought this guy was not great. I'll just put it that way. I hate to come down on him because it's not really his fault. To your point, you could blame two different college football coaches, mainly Hugh Freeze. I'm not going to go ahead and say, because it's so funny to me. It's like these coaches that come in in year one-- Sonny Dykes did what he did. Brian Callie did what he did in year one. And then you have these programs that are just like, well, yeah, but four years later, we're still blaming the old guy. And it's like, OK, man, that's the transfer of portal era. So if you're still having thoughts and feelings about the old coach in year this far end, if you're Hugh Freeze, that's your own fault, Ralph. To your point, Connor could have gotten to the transfer portal, could have done all this different stuff. And I think at the end of the day, hey, OK, I'm Coleman, meeting receivers, so we get those guys involved. I mean, the passcatchers are better. They are objectively better. And when Peyton Thorne actually sets his feet and gets time to throw, there's only like a 50% chance it's going to get picked off. Someone's catching it. That's the thing. So point P. Yeah, I don't know, man. I just feel like I'm going crazy with the Peyton North thing. Like I just have never seen it. Like I said, I don't see what-- this team is just so clearly like a quarterback away from me. I don't know. I'm right there with you. Like it's so frustrating because I literally set this off and was stuck in neutral for all of year one when are we going to see this next year? And by bringing back Peyton Thorne, basically that was a cosign of like, yeah, this guy is that gear. We just couldn't get it out of him last year. And I was like, are we looking at a second loss season from Auburn? And we're just so disappointing. Like, here's the video. I'm just going to be real about this. When you bring in a guy like Hugh Freeze, right, to an extent, right, LSU bringing in Brian Kelly, like not exactly the same, but a lot of the same sentiments of, oh, you're choosing, you know, winning over morality. Well, you better win. Because then the conversation starts to get pretty awkward, right? And then you got Hugh Freeze's daughter, depending on Twitter, with you are my sunshine suit and all this different stuff. And it's like, look, we knew what the deal was here. All right, we knew that you were coming to town to win football games. You do not need to convince me that this is going to be anything that it hasn't been. You do not need to convince me all this stuff, but you'll be in this great person, whatever. You're here to win football games. When you can't do that, right? And when Bobby Petrino is still lighting up scoreboards, it's kind of a problem. Because it's not about all the other off the field stuff. It becomes about on the field. And now you go, well, we took all these risks. We paid all this money. We dealt with all this public scrutiny. And we're sitting here watching Peyton Thorne through four picks against California. If Brian Harrison had lost like that by doubling down on a quarterback, by taking more control of the offense, doing the things that Hugh Freeze did, doubling down on a quarterback who struggled mightily. Yep. What would the conversations be about Brian Harrison right now in week two of his year two? What would those conversations be? And why are we nicer to Hugh Freeze? That's kind of my point is it's like, you're seeing Brian Harrison here. So why is it, why do we have a worst taste in our mouth of Brian Harrison at Hugh Freeze? Because you're getting the same result. It's because Hugh Freeze has actually had success in the SEC. That's what it is. That's what it comes down to. You're right, but it was 10 years ago. Yes, correct. No, there's no doubt about it. And if this offense doesn't turn around, there is no denying that Hugh Freeze will be on the hot seat entering year three. Not denying. I think he survives year two. I mean, I'm not gonna go that far. I'm not gonna say that this game, he said he's not gonna survive the end of the season and that they're gonna be two and out with each of their last two head coaches, but troubling. Like, that's the type of game that can just totally deflate a fan base over eight months. And I feel so stupid for having a take in December and then just slowly getting away from it. The more I listen. And it's not to say that everybody who we've had, talk about that improvement on the show was wrong. You know, Justin Hoekinson and Cole Kubilek and he's got Brian Stoltz. Like these guys do tremendous work. And I bet even they were watching on Saturday going like, you know, just what Neil said. I feel duped. I feel like everything we've been told is just been kind of a lie because that was not it. All right, this was definitely a candidate to be the most embarrassing performance, not just in SEC, but all of college football, but Notre Dame definitely took that title running away. Oklahoma and Houston, man. This was terrible. I'm gonna get to something Bama related in a second because I think there are people like, oh, Bama was even worse. This was a near disaster. Oklahoma was a 30 point favorite in this game. 30 point favorite. I think we can look at Houston and kind of forget it with the logo. Oh yeah, you know, everything is like, maybe this is a little bit of a closer game. You know, Houston's in the big 12 now. They've had some fun offenses. It's like, yeah, well, it's year one coach that got beat 30 point, got beat by 20 points to UNLV last week. So Oklahoma as a 30 point favorite allowed Houston to have a last ditch drive to try and win it. And that was in part because one of the jummest penalties you will ever see on a football field. Oklahoma was kneeling in up for final minute, 16 to 12 game, barn burner, but was not going to be able to run off the clock with just a straight up Neil. So Jackson Arnold had to do the thing where he moved around for a second, which always, always, always brings on the hit that offensive lineman get riled up about like 99% of the time that happens on those plays. And Arnold gets hit by Houston's defensive line and Josh Bates, Oklahoma Center, as Brent Finable said afterwards, lost his mind. He takes off his helmet and he's yelling as he's being separated from Houston. And then he gets flagged for unsportsmanly conduct. Yeah, not only does that stop the clock, but it means that Oklahoma, instead of just running around and then kneeling it to like, you know, going down to be able to end, you know, and, you know, let the rest of the time run off, they instead have to punt the football back and Houston gets it with 29 seconds left. The game should have been over. If this had gone Houston's way, and if Houston had found a way to win that with actual competent lateral play at the end, instead of whatever the hell they tried to do, I think this would have been a worse blunder than Miami and Georgia Tech last year. I truly think that because that would have been so inexcusable to lose a game like that as a 30 point favorite, 30 point favorite. And luckily for Oklahoma's sake, they survived, but it is officially time to worry about this offense. It has zero identity, well, none, no identity whatsoever. They can't run the football. And even though they were missing multiple starters on offense, I don't think you can use that as an excuse for all the offensive issues. And while I do think Nick Anderson, who again was held out of this one, they're really trying to be conservative with him and bring him back for the meat of the schedule, which it's about to hit very, very soon with Tennessee in a couple of weeks. I do think that his return will open things up in the passing game a little bit. He's the deep threat. He's the guy that can take the top off of the defense. That's good. But man, Dion Burks is the only guy that Jackson Arnold trusts right now. And it was a sleep walk performance, especially in the offense side of the ball. Defense actually looks pretty good. So give Oklahoma credit for that. But that is not gonna fly against a Tulane team that nearly beat Kansas State. And it's not gonna fly against that looming SEC gauntlet that awaits Oklahoma. That was a bad, bad, bad showing by the Sooners. - Yeah, I think you pretty much said everything. Also featured kind of a goofy safety in there. And it was just like a weird-- - I thought he got out. I thought he got out. - I really liked that call. - But also like it's kind of one of those like, why would you put yourself in that position? Like kind of like ball don't lie. So I get it. But like, yeah, there was a lot going on where it's like, this was the, - I'm really gonna say this, or if there's a game. I mean, in a way, Arkansas felt like this just a little bit where it's like, a team is just like floundering, but you just kind of feel like they're gonna figure it out. And then it's just like, okay, figure it out. Figure it out. Figure it out. It just really felt like they were going to lose this game at the very end. And it's like, how did you guys even, the fact that we even got here is so embarrassing. But the fact that this is so legitimately clearly really a game with the in here is so wild. And it's like, yeah, at your point that weird penalty, like that's not what you're supposed to see from offensive linemen, especially leaders. Like I just, I don't know what to make of this. I'm just gonna call them all again and see what Oklahoma brings in the future. 'Cause I really, if we're evaluating this fairly, we're worrying. So I'm just gonna pretend it didn't happen to be honest. - Look, I think there's legitimate reason to be concerned. I really do. I tried to provide the context of what was concerning in a 51 to three win against Temple in week one and why you could kind of point to the issues that they had on third down as like, okay, well, they dealt with this in-game injury here, this in-game injury there. They're doing without this guy. And all of those things I think were fair to say about that game. This was pretty indefensible. This was pretty indefensible. And Seth LaTrell, a guy that I took in our coordinator draft, needs to do a better job of being able to get some of these, some of these high percentage throws to the outside and get some of these opportunities where you can get your quarterback into a rhythm. He doesn't, Jackson Arnold does not look like he's getting into any sort of rhythm right now, which is troubling. We talk about how easy it looks for Nico all the time and how he just always looks like he's in rhythm. Like no matter what the down at distance is, it's like, he's just always kind of that cool guy. He seems very within the flow of the offense, going through his progressions, all these different things. And Arnold does not have that yet, because he's definitely taking the SAT out there. I never actually took the SAT. I only took the ACT. - Yes. - Is that weird? - Yeah. - No, I thought that was a southern thing to just take the ACT. But yeah, he just looks uncomfy. He just looks like he's got pop quizzes just hit him in a zero period. - Dude, I'll tell you what, they gotta get figured out against Tulane because that time he's defense. - Tulane's gonna be mad, man. Tulane kind of got cooked. They had the opposite happen, where it looked like they had a touchdown that like wasn't a touchdown. So yeah, I bet two sides of the same safety basically. So yeah, they don't get up for Tulane. That could be a problem. It could be a problem. All right, let's close with this one before we get to some overreaction versus proper reaction. Mississippi State and Arizona State, this game ended up being packed well after dark. Just like we said, unlike what we said, Mississippi State, well, unlike what I said, Mississippi State did not win this football game. Arizona State was in total control, well. It's in total control. Mississippi State's defense did not have a pulse. It was 27 to three at the break. It was 30 to three late in the third quarter. It was one of those games where I'm starting to do, like I'm starting to do like my wrap up stuff, like big takeaways I do for the SEC, shameless plug started on soft.com. And like putting podcast notes together and you're kind of like, all right, I can put this kind of on in the background while I lock into what I'm doing here. And you're like, hmm, that's another defensive stop for Mississippi State. Oh, they went down the field and scored. Oh, okay, they did it again. All right, whoa, oh, wow. That just made it a one touchdown game. And you're seeing all these Arizona State fans who are just not having it whatsoever. And they're like, are we about to blow this? 'Cause it kind of feels like it. But yeah, the response was just a little bit too little, too late. And even though they did have the three or nine sort of touchdowns and actually turned into a 60 minute game, just couldn't get those stops down the stretch and letting up 346 rushing yards. Not ideal. Not ideal to do that against a team that was picked to finish dead last in the Big 12. Probably a bad omen for SEC play for Mississippi State. Who knows? Maybe better days are ahead for that defense. Certainly didn't look like it. I mean, Arizona State was totally one dimensional. Sam Levitt is a one dimensional quarterback. They were not, they were not insistent on throwing the football at all and they didn't have to. But that's why I continue to say that this is 2018 Ole Miss. That is the vibe of Mississippi State this year with Levy. A few fun moments offensively that keep you entertained. Just like we saw when Kevin Coleman, man, he hit the jets on that touchdown that made it a one score game. But way too many holes in other areas to be anything more than like a five win team. I think that's kind of the ceiling of this program. And in a game like that, that, man, I didn't think that they were going to be staring at that kind of a deficit. I think Mississippi State fans were like, Oh yeah, we've had a ton of defensive turnover and this is going to be really, really rough. You're one for Jeff Levy. Yeah, so again, I have the Coronavirus. This one I fell asleep about halfway through. I'll be honest to you, but just running back over here. This gentleman just was playing on freshman. Like how do you allow this to happen? He had like a slide at the end too, or he could have probably gone into the end zone and scored, or at least like maybe his only angle is getting out of bounds, but he did like the cerebral thing of like sliding with a minute 50 left after a long run. So he was that dialed in. Yeah, this run defense, buddy, they're going to have some issues. They just are, they don't have the dudes. They don't have the dudes up front. And that's fine. Again, that was never the goal for this Mississippi State team. And I want that to be very, very clear because there are probably not going to be a ton of great moments in SEC play. But if you can have an offense, that's just, that's just fun. And that shows some fight. That's the positive for Mississippi State, is that they're showing the temperature and quinc percentage. Is that how you say his name? I always blank on how you say his name. But he's like on the sideline. He's got like the rips, leaves, go with the dress shirt, because it was 100 degrees or something like that. The heat was just ridiculous. You're on the other side of the country, and you're thinking to yourself, man, we got a long flight home. This is going to suck. And they could have easily just mailed it in. And that's the positive for Mississippi State. But still, let me get a hit for over three bills like that on the ground against a team that's not expected to do particularly great things. It's a sobering, sobering reality. And I think that's what Mississippi State is staring at. Cool. Yeah, I am just, I need to check out more of those state games. Good for them. Kenny Dillingham, had some moments in this game where his face on the sideline is not great. It's just not. Here's the problem. I could see that guy blowing this game face. And that you never want to have that as a head coach. And some guys have it more than others. I thought Gundy had it in space on Saturday, although he was the one trailing in that one. But Kenny Dillingham definitely has-- I probably shouldn't be leading this team right now. Bives, although credit to him because they were ready to go. And they're ultimately able to hold on that one. All right, well, let's close with some overreaction or proper reaction. Sorry, with a very big question here. Overreaction or proper reaction. Alabama has big, big offensive issues after delivering the single most deceiving final score in human history. No, everything's great. Everything's going according to plan. The recruiting's awesome. The offense looks great. The offensive line looks night and day different from last year. I mean, goodness. If you were-- I tweeted this out. I'm like, code for-- if you say the words Alabama crews pass the USF, that's just code for I didn't watch this game. Because, man, Alabama was in a dogfight. And in the middle of the fourth quarter, our guy, Alex Goldish, friend of the program-- I love the effort that's-- I kicked a field goal, man. Dude, what? Fourth and four. Dude, he had everything going his way. I was like, brother, this is your moment. Just go for it. And after that, it was over. Like, that was it. I want to be nice because I love Alex Goldish. I really do. And I'm very grateful that he's gotten to know him a little bit. And he's like, come on the show. And he's been-- You know, even conversations have it off the record. Yeah. I think big things are ahead for him. And I do find myself rooting for him. That was such a James Franklin decision. It pains me to say that. That was such a James Franklin decision. On fourth and fourth, when you're down eight, to kick a field goal in that spot to make it 21-16. I didn't like it. I did not like it one bit. And I get some of it. It's like, all right, well, your defense is kind of-- your defense, to that point, had been stopping them. And it'd been doing everything you could have hoped for against Alabama. And then instead, don't you know it. The 17-year-old Wonderkin, Ryan Williams, touched down the other way right after this one. Did you know he was 17? Did you know he was 17? He should be at his high school prom. And then another one. Yeah. They're going to say he's 17 after every single catch. He's unbelievable. I mean, he is, but still. Alabama, just all of a sudden, figured it out late. Alabama's got offensive issues, because if that's what happens when Caden Proctor isn't there-- I don't even think Caden Proctor has shown himself to be a serviceable SEC offensive lineman yet. But if that's the shuffling, this early in the season, that's bad. Because Tyler Booker, one of my favorite people to talk to at SEC Media Days, the heart and soul of that program, he ain't a left tackle. He's not. And that right tackle? Every single time Alabama had a big play, you knew that it was holding. It was either holding that they got called for or holding that they got away with. I think these reps are just like, brother, like we look like we're fixing this game. If we call holding on every play, like we're going to let you get away with it at the time. Oh my gosh. Alabama has offensive issues to figure out. I said, as much as I believe that the Jalen, Melrow, Kalen, DeBore relationship is going to work, I predict that Melrow would win the Heisman. And I predict Alabama was a playoff team. I did say like, I think they're going to be growing pains early on. Those are big growing pains, big time growing pains. Because man, even the fumble that they had on the goal line where Melrow does the thing that everybody hopes their quarterback does is just go from under center. Why take it shotgun when it's fourth in one or fourth in two or something like that? And instead, he can't handle the snap. How much of that is on Brailsford? How much of that is on Melrow? I don't know. But it was a bad, bad moment in that game. And Alabama fans were just kind of stunned looking around like, we're only up by one. And it's the fourth quarter against these guys again. They are never scheduling USF again. I can guarantee as long as we're getting 26. Wait, they're going to be getting 26? Yep. Oh my God. I mean, I don't want to say take USF money line too early for that. Whatever the spread is, take USF. Whether-- I mean, goals probably would have to still be there, which I don't think he will be by 26. But man, he gets fired up. And I'm happy for my-- I am happy for our goals that he showed that last year wasn't necessarily a fluke with what his team was trying to do. That's how Orlando defense, man. They did so many things to frustrate Melrow. Frustrated three different Bava quarterbacks in a two-year stretch. It's not a whole lot of people that can say that they've done that. The USF defense is Earth's credit. But man, the Alabama offensive line, buddy, the tackles, a problem. And I don't know that Kid Proctor just instantly fixes that. Yeah, it's fascinating, man. And I think at the end of the day, you got Melrow, who feels like an instant offense, right? I don't know why it's taken people so long. I mean, we've seen Bill O'Brien and going all the way back like all these different offensive minds. Look at him and not exactly. It's like, bro, this guy's a fire hydrant. Just get him on the run and tell them to make one read and take off. And when this team can't get an easy first down, for some reason, it just infuriates me because it's like, guys, Melrow is that guy. Like, you don't have to do it like to your point about like the under center thing. It's like, if you just run a play for Jalen Milfer, it's going to work. Like, I don't know why we've taken all these different ways to just delay like against-- I know LSU's defense was not good last year. But the way they used him on third down last year against LSU was so perfect where it's like, okay, you're going to rumble forward and we're going to make-- we're going to make the other team tackle you. And so, yeah, it's just crazy. Like, I hope they figure that out because I think now they've gone the other way. Whereas like, last year they're in this gridlocked offense. He would do some stuff with his legs. Now it's like, look, we're going to show you that you can open it up and be like a pocket passer. It's like, bro, every time that I'm scared of Jalen Milrow, he is like making one cut or making one read and taking off. So, yeah, I don't know. Eventually, I feel like that's going to have to show it to him. Like, that's what he did last year. He was just like, look, guys, I'm taking over this offense. I'm taking over this team. I'm not running these dumb plays. So, yeah, it's very, very interesting. My conspiracy theory about Alabama's talent remains true. Do you think that-- because this is what I was thinking is those pleasures weren't necessarily there in the offense. Is Jalen Dabour and Nick Sheridan? Are those guys-- and I realized Nick Sheridan wasn't the primary play call or at Washington and that was Ryan Grubb? Do you think they're still transitioning away from Michael Pennix of trying to protect the quarterback, trying to not put him in those spots? And they are forgetting the asset that they have in their role and understanding that ideally, you don't want to run your quarterback 15 times against USF. If you're going to be playing a 16-17 game season, you do not want him to take these kinds of hits early on in early September when you're trying to establish these other elements of your offense. How much of that is still, though? Man, our last guy did not need that. And we are still figuring out those moments in which, OK, we need to stop testing out this offense. We need to go win a football game. We need to go pick up a third down. We need to be able to just say, go make a play. And I love the fact that Millrow kind of kept his eyes downfield. I think it was a Prentice or Bernard who had the touchdown in that ball that he just zipped in there. But that was like a nice show of growth, in my opinion, in those spots. And they're going to be those little moments here there. But clearly, whatever you want to call it, they're still a figuring out process with all of that and finding a way to make this work. Yeah, I think you're right on the money there. And yeah, to your point, I mean, Dilvin's got better after this game last year. I really, I truly don't think they were figured it out. I mean, that final play of the season last year pretty much encapsulates it. It was just duct tape on top of duct tape on top of Band-Aid. And yeah, I think you're exactly right. And I think that if you have a quarterback that can't move and that you're scared of protecting him, then you transition to a guy like Millrow who has just made a concrete. It's hard to not have the yips because every year that when Penn could finish a year, they were awesome. So it was like that was our biggest part. There was their biggest party was keeping him healthy. Whereas now it's like, hey man, sometimes you're just in a 13-14 game with USF. Sometimes you just need to run your quarterback. That's just what it is. Pretending like you're not just makes it worse. Yeah. All right, let's end with a couple with a few here. All right, overreaction or proper reaction. Billy has no choice but to start DJ Lagway after he was brilliant. Here we are again, man. This is Anthony Richardson 2.0, isn't it? I'm going to say it's an overreaction because Billy still has a choice and that's kind of the problem. I mean, he's starting Mertz. He's starting Mertz when Mertz comes back. I don't know how many-- He's starting Mertz. Like, I'll be still on if he starts Lagway. I'll never say never. But I think Billy truly looks at what Lagway's doing and going, man, that's going to be awesome next year or the year after that. I guess next year because Mertz, this is last year about what he's like. Can't wait to see that busted out in 2025 after I get a year four totally the throw that he made stepping up in the pocket where it was-- It wasn't a jump throw, but he like kind of threw a lot of rhythm in the arm strength and how on target that was on the right side. I was like, I was watching that live and just going, that's silly. I don't care who you're playing against. Again, like we talked about with Nico, some of these throws would be ridiculous against air. And DJ, like the numbers that he put up were insane. Obviously, it was a favorable match up. I still feel like we're going to see Grand Mertz when he's healthy. Now he's still in a cushion protocol. We saw Billy afterward say, DJ is going to be involved. That's going to be the plan. Ford fans, don't get your hopes up that that all of a sudden changed Billy's mind. I don't think he watched him play against an FCS team. As brilliant as he looked and thought, now I need to turn to this guy and I need to just put all my eggs in that basket. I just, I know what I said, but it's just so funny. I said, well, this is the average. It's just we've done all of this before. And if you play him too early, you do what you do. Basically, you're just going to need to kind of break him a little bit. So unfortunately, guys, the best thing that could happen is that guy could sit on the bench because you don't want Billy Napier to be your head coach. So at the end of the day, you want to keep that guys forward and feel as possible. But then you lose legway. That's the issue. Do you? Legway committed to Florida because of Billy. I know that's a very, very odd thing to think about with the conversations we're having about legway compared to the conversation that we're having about Napier. But that is 100% the case. It is so, so true that he put his faith in Billy Napier. And I'm not saying that it automatically means that you're not going to keep DJ legway if you fire Billy Napier, OK? Because your things have happened. But there is a reason why he bought in to his system, his vision, the timeline, all of it. And that is going to be, in this era, a big, big conversation piece if Billy gets fired. Again, they win this game. They beat Samford going away, which, look, a few years ago, a certain Dan Mullen can't say that he beat Samford going away. But so I guess that's one thing that Billy's got on Mullen. God, this is so funny. Anyway, how about overreaction or proper reaction? Oregon is fraudulent, proper reaction. Struggled in trenches, Boise State down to the wire, man, down to the wire, not great. After struggling inside the home, yeah, proper reaction. OK, then let's end with this one. Because this one's a little bit more tricky. Notre Dame's playoff path should end with that loss to northern Illinois. It should. I mean, will it? I kind of think it's a proper reaction. I'm looking at the rest of that schedule going. And even if they went out, that stench will linger. Linger. And I mean, think about how differently we're looking at that schedule now that you lose northern Illinois. Oh, my God. I mean, if they lose, obviously, the odds of Notre Dame now going 11-1 with that being their only loss, with the offensive issues that they have, probably Linger was not particularly good at all in this game. I don't think we'll have to worry about that. But it's more of just a conversation piece. So I'm going to say proper reaction for that one. Yeah, I mean, I love all the smart people of the favorite podcast to call anybody out. But you know, you start Andy and Ari, you know what? They got cold takes. I love Ari. Ari's a good dude. Look, I was right there with him. I said, like, how many teams would you put ahead of Notre Dame for their playoff path? Looked very severable. I'm saying, you know, all the people who are going, oh, that text saying in-game, that was a game. They went in a couple of years ago. Oh, my gosh. They went in a college station. And you know, this was also a good kind of game that we lose a couple of years ago, OK? So yeah, maybe-- oh, we can finally win the big one. It's like, Marcus Freeman is like, once you can get like three steps away and look at him, it's like, oh, my gosh, I love this guy. But then you've got to get that three steps away. It's so funny. It's like, people are running to go give this guy all this credit. And then every year, he has a game like this where it's like, well, so you guys have lost to two Sunbelt teams. Oh, that's crazy. Not Sunbelt. Not Sunbelt on Northern Illinois and the Mac. People forget the Mac teams. Yeah, we mustn't forget that. I've been to the Calum many a time. Fun fact, my brother played for the Calum County liners when he was playing summer baseball. After his junior year of college-- and I went to a lot of those games. I spit sunflower seeds on this turf that they had that I'm sure those seeds are still stuck in that turf somewhere. And I really like that it just cleats down. Dude, I would bring the biggest bag of seeds and just 20-year-old Connor did not care. No care whatsoever. So to Calum, lovely place, parts of my DNA all over to Calum. Take that for however you want. All right, that'll do it. Week two in the books. Intriguing week it was. Wild, weird week in college football. As they always seem to be well, they just always seem to be. If you haven't, leave us a five-star review. Subscribe to our YouTube channel where you can watch every single episode of The Starting on South podcast. Follow us on Twitter at the SDSPod, @SethOnSouth, @Seizurgarra, at Go So Hard. Thanks, guys. Talk soon. [MUSIC PLAYING] (upbeat rock music)
Week 2 was wild and weird in a variety of ways. The guys have a full breakdown of that with thoughts on Texas' statement win at Michigan, Tennessee looking scary vs. NC State, South Carolina beating Kentucky yet again, Arkansas' day drinking loss at Oklahoma State, Payton Thorne turtling, Oklahoma looking lost and Mississippi State's bad omen for SEC play. The guys close with Overreaction or Proper Reaction.
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