[MUSIC] Hey, what's going on? This is the Saturday outside podcast. I am Connor O'Gara. Well, I've got some sad news to open the show. Sad news, not so much news. Well, a little bit, a little peel behind the onion here. I think Vandy hitting me over on two and a half regular season wins is gonna have to wait until lease mid-October, which is a bummer after Clark Lee's defense resurfaced and couldn't get a stop in the final minute at Georgia State after rallying back down two scores with three minutes left. I definitely was locked in on the last two minutes of that game. Like really locked in. Yeah, this was an underratedly weird slate, right? Because the games that we were kind of hyped about. I mean, a couple of them lived up to it, right? But there were so many off the board games, UAB Arkansas. This is another great example where it's like, what is going on here? Like, how many games are ready to watch it once? Well, you are right. You sound like you've been like crying it out like you're like you're a Florida fan right now. Are you good? Well, you saw the LSU staff carry on a game. Yes. Okay, fair. Let's say no more. That's it. I'm good. I'm feeling great. I'm just I've done. I did so much screaming at my television. That's it. Gotcha. Okay. I understand. A little table pounding. Just yet the reason I brought up the Vandy thing is because despite the fact that Diego Pavia led a late comeback and then Georgia State's quarterback made like a Dan Marino throw to win that game. Go watch that throw. If you if you are a sicko, Georgia State, unbelievable, but we may or may not have just lost a Diego Pavia interview because of that throw. And that's too bad because he was set to come on this weekend TBD on if that's going to go. That's the first time gas. That is the expectation. Someone who is currently down perhaps even worse than Florida fans, maybe that's a little teaser for the people. But yes, week three in the books, we've got a lot to get to. As of this recording, by the way, as of this recording, we're recording this 1037 a.m. No word yet officially, I believe Napier's future. There is some discourse about the meetings that have been held or not held this morning, which kind of seems like depend on who you talk to and what. So as of this recording, TBD. So we're going to get to Florida in just a second here, but well, let's start with the number one team in the country doing the unthinkable and almost losing at Kentucky. I say tongue in cheek, unthinkable because we kind of thought there was at least the scenario and you were talking about like, yeah, I mean, last time they were at Kentucky, it's like, you just kind of kind of never know. They have often struggled for whatever reason to kind of put their foot on the gas there. Really, 2017 SEC East title game of sorts was like the last time that Georgia or 2018, I guess that was was the last time that Georgia like really asserted its dominance in Lexington. But yeah, man, sport never ceases to amaze me never. Last week, did Georgia belong on her did not Georgia to Kentucky belong on the same field as South Carolina? Nope. And dude, this is the funny thing too, because we talked about it and like, I kind of made that convoluted point about the puke on the shoes game puts exactly what this was, right? Like Kentucky showed up unprepared to play against South Carolina. That's all that was because if like Georgia basically never really broke it open like there was not a moment where guys were confused, running around scared, there was some coverage bust. And I think Georgia was just hoping and praying that that team would show up for a player too, and it truly never happened that's the thing that's so disgusting about this loss for Kentucky is that they showed up ready to play for Georgia and they didn't give Georgia that easy bucket pass play that would have broken this game open. So like, yeah, this team does look pretty locked in for Stoops right now. Where does that sounds? Yeah, Kentucky goes from being just laughed off the field essentially to being one Sean McDonough trouble with the snap call away from potentially winning this game, which several blades of grass on the pick six Oh gosh, what up, what a play that could have that would have put Kentucky up double digits all of a sudden everybody and their mother is watching that game atmosphere looked incredible. My guy Perry was there. He was texting me throughout Kruegerfield underrated. I'll continue to say that underrated SEC atmosphere, but yeah, it just goes to show you this is such a week to week league is such a week to week sport. We left it open for this to be able to happen, but I think at the same time we're like, well, we can't just, that's what we saw. We can't like legitimately expect Kentucky to come out here and give Georgia a four quarter game. But look, I still think that Georgia got after Brock Van de Griff and Kentucky's offensive line still has problems. Like let's let's not. It wasn't like a total flip of the switch on South Carolina's offense going from that game they played in the swamp to next week in 22 when they when they looked like that against Tennessee. And that night and day because, I mean, Jalen Walker could probably tell you where every freckle on Brock Van de Griff's body was located by the end of that night, even that guy was insanely good. But what a game it turned out to be turned out to be really, really entertaining. Kentucky shows exactly like you said that it hasn't given up. If there was a game in which you would give up, it would be probably Georgia and them imposing their will against, I thought the Kentucky offense or at least for decent chunks in the night. Can we actually start with probably the most controversial thing of the night? Not the overturned pick six, but yeah, goodness, man. This was the most Iowa thing that Stoops has ever done. I think we can all agree, punting, punting on fourth and eight in a one point game with three minutes left when you are at home, crowd is rocking against number one team in the country. That got roasted as it happened. And of course, after the fact, like Kentucky doesn't get the ball back until there's nine seconds left. You could see that coming. While I totally agree with the sentiment there that it's you have to have context, right? You have to understand you're facing the normal and team in the country. You're maybe nine yards away from setting up your all world kicker to potentially get a lead. Like dude was dialed in. And so you have to understand that. And if I'm making that decision in that moment, yeah, like I would like to be able to go for my controversial take though. I didn't hate the move as much as everyone else did. I didn't quite. That's the point in coming out of your brother. Here's the thing. I gotta announce that. I know. He's going to qualify for the Brett Bila by Iowa tattoo now. Okay. Right. Right. Right. Like I still would have gone for it. I didn't. I wasn't like woefully. Oh my God. I actually saw a path in which it could work out. I guarantee you like Oscar delt fumbling, for instance, let's say they put it to them and then Oscar delt fumbles and then Kentucky just kind of goes home. All right. Bear. Bear. Hear me out here. Well, hear me out. It was fourth and eight. Mm hmm. In the second half of the game, Georgia had held Vanigarff to three for 11 for 38 yards. It was South Carolina all over again. And on the very pre on the previous play, he had just gotten demolished and there was like, okay, you could probably, you could probably just, you know, have an incomplete pass here. You go for it. Like what's the worst is going to happen? Even if he throws a pig. It's like, all right, you're still kind of in the game. So it's going to get stopped. I get it. But with how well they had him figured out, getting eight yards for that Kentucky op-eds was not your typical eight yards. Okay. So that's just like, that's, that's worth remember. And stoops, stoops at the time is thinking, okay, I've got all my time out. I've got the two minute warning. My defense has been lights out. I mean, Georgia's sitting there with 13 points. If you pin them deep, you get the ball back, even if it's a minute, Kentucky could get the ball back already in field goal range. If they're, if Georgia is just punting from their own goal line because they just can't really do much of anything. And obviously that didn't happen. Georgia got those multiple first downs that it needed because it wasn't just one first now and it was multiple first downs that they needed to get. But beautiful play action on I love that design from Bobo. I love the execution from Carson back and Tom love it. The timing of that play action that really was kind of the dagger I thought at the time. No trouble with the snap. Georgia survives a scare from Kentucky and look, before we get to the Kirby part of this and the Georgia side of it, because obviously that's a clear take away. This is going to be a tough pill to swallow for Kentucky fans because you see what it looked like. Be honest though, be honest, Kentucky fans, look yourself in the mirror, what was going to happen here? I get it. You know you were getting fourth and eight y'all know it. You know it. And I know you have to find out. But you can sleep a little bit easier knowing you weren't getting that fourth and eight. Maybe Vannegrove rolls out to his right and picks it up with his legs. I won't necessarily rule that out. Your level of confidence that he was getting eight yards in that spot is minimal and it's more convenient to just be like, well, yeah, the puns, the worst decision I've ever seen. Again, it still was not a decision that I was particularly a fan of, but let's not pretend like Kentucky just lost the game as a result of that. Yeah. 100%. I mean, I would think of it like this. Right. Imagine it's like going for two. Okay. So you're kind of at this point in the game where you've done enough to put yourself in the position to win, but we pretty much agree that the numbers say, okay, if you kick it back to this Georgia offense, they're going to find a way to get it first now. Probably. Well, two first downs they would have had to get they would have had to get at that point. Well, if you don't trust them, that's the thing. If you don't trust them beginning yards, how long do they need to get across the field? It's well, it's just depends because if you're talking about like what the field position could be. Yeah, you're right. Then if you get the ball, if Georgia gets one first down and then you're getting the ball back on the other side of the field, I see your point. Yeah. That's, that's what I'm saying here. So I don't even really disagree with your point, right? But you got to think, okay, if I don't trust my offense to get eight yards, how quickly do our trust ball fits to get 40 yards, 50 yards, right? You're just trusting your defense to not let up a single first down. And for them to be punting the ball out of worst field, like punting the ball back against the end zone and then you get the ball and plus territory anyways. Yeah. And I hate to be like couch observer guy, but man, I mean, that delt thing is so heartbreaking. And I think that's not being talked about enough where again, you know, you see it in eight K, it seems a lot slower than it was in real time. But that ball gets jarred loose and one Kentucky guys talking to the other Kentucky guy, why the ball is rumbling around. It's like, guys, you plan for exactly this to happen. Did you not? When you kick the ball back to them, this was the dream scenario. Stupes was like the smartest coach on the face of the earth, felt fumbles balls loose. You're in field goal range. Like you're right there. We're, I thought they still had more to gain on that. I thought, I, I, were they in field goal range? But I'm saying like you would have the time, you have the ability, like it, the math completely changes when you recover that ball because now you have a fresh set of downs. All you have to do is gain like 10 yards, right? Like, because your kicker is electric. So point being like, I think that they, let's see, um, yeah. So like, I think that, that, that's so heartbreaking and so many reasons because the way it played out, makes your coach look the silliest way possible. But in reality, I see your point about a yard, I think that's kind of a coin flip. I, like I said, I would do it as a two point play. I think at some point, you got to make the play. I think at some point, you got it. You either got to move the ball all the way across the field or you got to get that one play. It's easier to get to one play than it is to string four or five together against the Georgia defense knowing you can't run the ball when you get the ball back. You know, and this is another example of an older school coach, you know, trying a couple of passes in a row when they probably need to be, you know, pushing it forward because when you look at a third and eight, it's a little bit different than the third and four, right? So I, I think that in that spot, that's actually when you go conservative, that's when you go a little bit more Mike Bobo. What's funny is Mike Bobo through the ball, when he got it back at the end of the game two, it's kind of funny. Both of these coaches spent the whole game being conservative and at the end, they like ripped off their shirts and were like coach, oh, and they were like, let's go run through a wall. It's like brother, you should just keep being yourself, right? And so yeah, I think, um, I, it's so disappointing the way it plays out and everyone's going to roast stoops. I had a lot more positive than negative to take away. That's why I said in the pregame, I'm going to wait to say anything about stoops because I didn't want to go blast him and then have his team played this hard for him. Just to clean up that point, Delp Fumbles on the Kentucky 42 at that time. So, and then I thought you couldn't advance the football on a fumble. And I was like, I don't know why Aaron Smith is able to, to pick up that ball. And it's a first down when he was behind the first time, like I thought that was a weird rolling. We're going to have a discussion later about a rule that clearly not everybody knows what with. How do we get for officiating for sure? It really was. Um, but then we, we get the, you know, Georgia picks up the first down, um, you know, in that spot and that it's pretty much curtains from that point on Kentucky gets the ball back with nine seconds left, but yeah, like just something, something to, to keep in mind there is like we're, we're talking about a scenario that yeah, I mean, you just only get so many of these opportunities. Like it just does not happen very often. So it's something that, that obviously like we're going to dissect until the end of the earth. On the Georgia side, Kirby talked afterwards about how people don't respect what it means to play on the road in the SEC. And I don't think he was just talking about national pundits. I know Joel Klad has had his fair share of jokes about that, but I think he was actually talking about his own team. I really do. And he's basically saying each of my teams have had to learn this, even as we've been winning titles. But if there's anybody that has a right to actually come out and say that it's Kirby or Saban, because when you've won 28 consecutive regular season conference games, you can speak on the space, the strength of the conference and not when you're Matt rule and you're coming off of a five and seven season and you never beat a top 10 team in your FBS coaching career. But that's a different point. Kirby also pointed out how this felt like 2022 at Mizzou and then the Auburn game last year. And I think he's right. I really do like slow start, fourth quarter comeback, don't really worry about the spread if you're Georgia by days and or whatever, just find a way because even the best teams experience that. And I'm not trying to let Georgia off the hook. If there are big picture concerns, the Tate Ratlage injury significant, that's the thing I'd be most concerned about. That's George's best offensive lineman. He was carted off the field. Not only did he have a left knee injury, but also a left ankle injury. I mean, he's in boot and crutches, which is not ideal. And it breaks. Yeah. Nothing makes me sadder than a big guy in a cast. Yeah. No, not a deal. Now, that's a that's a more troubling sight than, you know, is Carson Beck going to figure it out? Like I wouldn't really worry about that as much. The Michael Williams injury they're still dealing with. So between Stackhouse, Williams and Ratlage, all being out in mid September, that doesn't really bode well for Georgia being this imposes will force in the trenches, which I don't think it was in this game. And that's where Georgia week in week out, we just always assume in the nine years of the Kirby Smartera, that's where they're going to have an advantage or the very least, if they're up against a team like Alabama, it's going to be not something where they're going to be at a disadvantage. And I'm not saying that it becomes a disadvantage because of the aforementioned guys like Jalen Walker, but still that's the type of stuff that can prevent you from looking like a juggernaut week in week out. But at the same time, I don't know, maybe I'm a sicko and I can say this because I'm not a Georgia fan who's sitting there, you know, living and dying with every play. I do like seeing Carson Beck in situations like this sometimes because we kind of just accept that when Stetson was in these situations, he would figure this out. But it's still a question that Carson Beck is working to answers. Who are you in these clutch moments? You know, who are you when you're trying to win a national championship? Because I think he's had some performances where he's just been awesome and he hasn't necessarily had to make these big time throws down the stretch or if he's had to make these big time throws, he's had a safety valve like Brock Bowers. This was the first time where I truly thought as crazy as it sounds, Georgia misses Brock Bowers, specifically Carson Beck misses Brock Bowers because he would have been relied on a ton in a game like this. But yeah, I mean, not a banner day for the Georgia offense, just couldn't get the ball early enough because Georgia really couldn't stop the run game and the way that it hoped to. But I thought that Carson Beck made some smart decisions down the stretch and a Georgia team that still hasn't turned the ball over. Despite the Oscar to help fumble, didn't start giving the football away because if they did, they lose that game and that didn't happen. Yeah, I'm aligned with you and all that. I don't think this is any way that, you know, a cause for concern. I think we've seen one of these games a year exactly, right? And honestly, the silver lining here, if your stoops is we've kind of seen that, you know, from the zoo kind of, I hate to say it saved drinks job, but it was one of the banner moments at that point in his career to say, hey, we can hang with Georgia and then he was able to get it turned around after that, got the offense humming. So if you're stoops, you could say, okay, well, we've already played Georgia close. Now we just need to be able to trust our offense a little bit more, right? But yeah, that being said, I'm zero percent, well, let's call it 20% worried about Georgia in that case because of the injuries, right? And one question that I had going into this one was who's going to be, you know, the guy or the guys in the Georgia front seven that stepped up. You know, do you feel like we have an answer to that question after the show? I don't know. He's like, you know, he's like, I don't know if he's going to have an answer to that question. I don't know. He's going to have an answer to that question. He's going to have an answer to that question. I don't know if he's going to have an answer to that question. I don't know if he's going to have an answer to that question. I don't know if he's going to have an answer to that question. I don't know if he's going to have an answer to that question. I don't know if he's going to have an answer to that question. He's going to have an answer to that question. He's going to have an answer to that question. He's going to have an answer to that question. I don't know if he's going to have an answer to that question. He's going to have an SEC defensive player or the weak award or highest PFF grade or something like that. But every time you saw Brock Vandegriv throwing off of his back foot and looking like he was struggling for his life, Jim Walker was just in his ear. I mean, that guy is making special plays, and it's so fitting that he has a name like that because he's just the combination of like four different Georgia players rolled into one. He's made by AI, he just pulled him out of some portal and was like, "You know what? We need this and this. We got you, brother." You know what? AI is crazy these days. I would not rule that out. He was everywhere. I mean, that was just the worst scenario for Brock Vandegriv, who's a second late. Everything's a second late. You're like, "Get rid of the football. Get rid of the football." Even when he's confident, you're like, "You should probably be doing these things just a second earlier." And that's what three years of sitting on the bench, as much as we can talk about game reps and how important that is, they're just not all created equal. And I think Nuss is a really good example. Right now, we're going to get to him in a second of a guy that because he's gotten at least minimal live reps, he doesn't have that same sort of like, "Should I trust it? Should I not trust it?" And you're seeing that play out right now with Brock Vandegriv, and it's too bad because against that Georgia front, that found a way with Jalen Walker to figure things out. They were still, I thought, the most superior unit on the field. Yeah, and I think too, he's not quite athletic enough to do stuff off-script. I think he kind of profiles almost more as a statue-esque quarterback. What this means is that Georgia and Bama will face off as undefeated top five teams in a couple of weeks, and call me crazy. I'm a little bit excited for that, a little bit excited, not trying to fast forward through next week. Week four slate is looking really, really good, but Georgia surviving this and Bama winning going away, which we will get to in a little bit, means that we will get these teams facing each other kind of as built. And if Georgia had lost this game or something like that, I think we're having probably a different conversation about that Bama game, despite the fact that obviously this is the football team playoff era, this loss wouldn't have been the end of the world, but losing is an unranked team, and this SEC regular season streak would have been just the ultimate head scratcher. I think we would have started having conversations of, "Is this 2007?" Which we always need to have when weird things start to happen, so Georgia avoids that in this game. Yeah, I think too, we talked about how this could have been kind of the death knell for stoops, honestly, because if they showed up and gave up 50 points, if they looked not committed, if he gives that quote, "We're just losing the arms race, I need more money." It could have been the beginning of kind of a messy divorce, honestly, Kentucky, because I know fans are getting tired of this, and I know how frustrating it can be to see that punt decision happen, to see the fumble happen, to see your offense not really trust themselves, but what they did here was they played a stoops of vlogging. They didn't make the big mistake, they were aggressive in terms of like they were trying to push the other team around, they were not too gimmicky. So I think this team does have an identity, and that's what we questioned last week. So I think that's enough in the SEC, I know there's no East anymore, unfortunately for Kentucky, but you know, that's enough in the SEC to win a couple of games and make your season not a loss, even though you're sitting at 0-2 in conference play. Only top part, I haven't scored a touchdown yet in SEC play. Well, you know, that's the negative here, the positive is going to need touchdowns. Yeah, that's the, the positive is you've got the best kicker I think I've ever seen. Yeah, that's pretty impressive. Yeah, just let him kick from 75 yards out and just hope for the best. All right, Texas A&M Florida. They call me the central game of the week, good lord. The Billy Napier era, again, as with this recording is not officially over, but in my opinion, it's over and he knows that it's over. I think it's very, very clear. If you listen to how he spoke postgame, the chance of fire Billy that were, that were being had when Florida goes into the breakdown, 20 to nothing. And they're saying fire, like they're, they're all chaining fire, Billy. And Billy says afterwards, yeah, I probably would have been doing the same thing. That's guy knows he's cooked. He's cooked. And if you are the last remaining supporter, maybe I'm speaking to Scott Strickland right now, what have your eyes told you is working? Like, give me one thing besides you got DJ lagway to sign a document and to wear your football uniform. Give me something else that shows you that this is working because it's seven consecutive losses to FBS teams dating back to last year. In those previous six games coming into this one, Florida allowed an average of 38.7 points. So Saturday's defensive showing as putrid as it was for Florida actually brought that average down a touch if we're just talking about the games during that losing streak. Well, but to be fair, do we know who to blame for that? Because in the pre-show, we talked about our strong strong. We learned that he was like the assistant to the defensive coordinator assistant to the assistant. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Ron Roberts, one call in place in this one all year, like that's, that's been the, like we've kind of had heard hints of that and apparently that's, that's what's been happening. Yeah. Oh my God, this is, we're going to get, okay, let me, let me give A&M some credit first. I need to give A&M some credit because Concline, the scheming in the ground game, it was there. Didn't have Connor Wigman starting in this one. He ends up being a game time decision. He doesn't end up playing. Marcel Reed kind of picks up where he left off from that bowl game and looks really, really good. A&M looked like it had a plan and it stuck with it, 310 sack adjusted rushing yards. And the fact that A&M was actually able to recognize that early on, we have an advantage up front and we are going to take their will. We do not need balance in this football game. We're going to hit on the splash plays in the passing game. They were able to do that. We're not going to get too crazy with our, with our backup quarterback. And you know what? They won that game going away with it. A&M first road win in three years, A&M deserves all the credit in the world for that. Good on you, Mike Elko for being able to go into the swamp and win. All right. I'm not going to be different. But, and I will say really quickly, it would be nice to A&M. A&M is a team that you've seen. I've kind of like kind of been bullish on all year because I think they have some talent there. And I think we saw exactly what I like about them, which is like they're a mean physical team that will go to your house and push you around. And I think we saw a little bit of the speed, granted, everybody looks fast against Florida. But that was my big question was, who's the fast guy? Who's the fun guy? We saw a little bit of that. But this is a sound team. This is a team that's painted a new name. They just happen to play them a week one when their coaching staff was kind of still trying to find their lockers and everything. But, yeah, I think that this team has shown they can hang in these big environments already, which is really encouraging in your one. I'm just so baffled though that like, I feel bad. I feel bad that that I'm not going to just give A&M all this credit. There'll be time. And if A&M continues to win SEC games, we'll give it, we'll give the Aggies their flowers. But Florida is the clear takeaway from this game. And Aggie, of course, Billy said afterwards, Will, we struggled getting lined up and just executing basic calls to be quite honest. Just get on indeed.com. I'm higher somebody. You'll figure it out. Somewhere. Yeah. No, you're needing to assist it to the offensive. The game changer coach, you need another one of those. Prince William on me Ellen was probably just sitting there and like on his phone, watching this game, you know, they were at Wake Forest. And he's like, he's doing the Leo DiCaprio pointing at the TV or pointing at his phone. Like, see, I told you, I told you I was right. He was right. Yeah, I mean, there's nothing, there's no spins on anymore. There's no spins on whatsoever. Like, I feel so dumb and I knew I was going to feel dumb if this is how it played out. And I think Florida fans just feel entirely duped. And Billy doesn't get a pass for that. I'm the defensive side of the ball just because he's an offensive minded coach because his answer to solving his defensive problems again, where it was hiring the guy who was fired each of the last two seasons. But because he worked for you five years ago and you had success in the Sun Belt, you thought that it would work in the SEC in that it would be the difference in correcting the single most disappointing unit of the 2020s. That was the logic that Billy Napier saw for this and that he was going to be the play caller that was going to show Austin Armstrong, how to properly do his job that plan has failed. That plan needs to go up in smoke. And that plan should be a major, major part of the Billy Napier obituary at Florida has to be. Okay. Right. They can't figure it didn't even matter on the quarter, like what they were doing at quarterback. Okay. So I know that's what we were talking about pregame like lagway or merge or whatever. And you know what, I'll actually give Billy a tiny bit of credit for putting lagway in for multiple series in the first half and not just letting him get three plays and hand the football off. Like, I don't even care as much about that. Because if they don't stop a soul and if teams are just going to run it down their throat, it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. And they just don't, they don't have anybody, anybody on that team that steps up and says, no, not today, not in our house. And that is what is so painfully evident because to me, this is, this is a, this is the place that we need to remember that we're at for Florida because there will be people. You know, this is coming, that when Billy Napier is fired, there will be people that say, ah, Florida fans, they're crazy. Am I right? I hate those people. Those are my least favorite people in this discussion because you know what? Those people have no sort of context with what is currently going on right now. Are you supposed to wait another two years? Are you supposed to wait until like the every last fan empties out of the swamp? And there's one fan left and then Billy Napier personally drives that fan home and waves him goodbye, walks them up to their doorstep and says, hope you had a good time. I think that you should still believe in me and we'll get him back next time. I'll see you next week. Is that supposed to be how this is going to end because it's not working? It's not working. And there's no way around it. Billy will not make it talk to over 19th. There's no way that he's making it to that Kentucky game. This is a matter of when, not if. And this is, to me, like such a sad result for a program that's hold everybody had had this plan. They invested $60 million into Billy Napier. Those buyout numbers right now, Matt Hayes tweeted this out from Steve Berkowitz. It's like basically $28 million plus another four and a half for the assistance. And the investment that has been made into Billy Napier has been so significant and it looks like such wasted money. But you know what's a lot more costly and empty swamp for an entire season? Yep. Simple as that. Simple as that. No other way to describe it, complete and total failure. Yeah, I mean, this stuff is, you know, I, I don't know what else to say. I saw this from day one with Billy Napier and I even tried to be mean. I just, I mean, and not you necessarily, but pretty much everybody in my life called me a hater or called me a fan. But what was I wrong about? I'll say this. I thought this could work, definitely thought this could work. I think that Florida fans have this, this hope every time a new hire comes about and understandably so because when you've had coaches as good as Florida has had in your lifetime, both of them, total to though. But think about this, think about this because I think this is worth the context of like people that say Florida fans are just, they're unrealistic. They don't have, you know, the proper hope and expectations. Like Steve Spurrier, Urban Meyer, two of the best six coaches of the last 30 years. Yeah. For sure. We are both old enough to remember both of those coaches. Yep. Doing extremely well. And when you have had multiple people do this job at such a high level, you are always going to be accustomed to a certain standard and a certain hope more so than anything else that this guy can be that guy, okay. And that's going to be the case for whoever succeeds, Billy Napier, that is 100% going to be going to be it. But I think this is an example of a stubborn head coach. Hold on. That's not the question. What was I wrong about? From day one. Because this is literally, who should Florida fire? Who should? I mean, now we're going back in time. Florida could have hired. I mean, if we're going back in time to say who, but that's Florida said, okay, Florida's own AD said they told Lincoln Riley, no, let's start there. I would love to know what those conversations are like that's starting because that's an easy cop out to say what should they have done. Their own AD is on record saying that. So let's start there. So that's an easy answer. But from day one, I said you guys are hiring the cast on to run your football program. It's a good show. Great. And you know what? And they had plenty of game changer coaches on that staff too. All right. So the day, these are an unserious group of individuals, Austin Armstrong, I thought he was a joke from day one, was I spent a day wrong? I'm thinking about what was his breakout game, what was his breakout game? You got to be sidetracked thinking about if Johnny drama is the game changer. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Turtle is on the staff, brother. We're trying to get to this. I'm actually working to get turtle on the show. True story. Yeah. Cool guy. Yeah. The staff. The staff hires have been horrid. Yeah. Absolutely. Like here's here's here's my only point because you were right. You're right. The Billy Napier era has been an utter failure, nobody will deny that. You are one hundred percent right about that. I think there are there are staff hires that that guy could have made that would have made it not this. I don't think that every single move made this predestined for which higher did he make that was good? Because I don't think that guy could have made this hires. He got ten different chances. The higher guys knew it. Oh, for ten. What do you mean? Right. Well, that's. I mean, you need 12 who who did he hire that worked? No, that I'm saying like all of these hires have gone up in smoke and have failed so miserably. I'm saying that if Billy Napier had recognized from the jump, the thing that could have maybe changed the start of this is a different human being. Yeah. Yes. That's all I'm saying from the jump. The human being he was was not a good fit for this program. He didn't do a single thing right. It's too stubborn. Yes. Correct. And that's what I said in the preview. He was arrogant. And he didn't, because here's the deal. It's not about the Florida fans. It's about the Florida administration. I talked to you about this. I don't know. Whenever we have lots of time to talk about this, I promise, but whenever the Mac and Moen hires happen, I was told repeatedly Florida is a top five job in America. When I was Strickland in SaaS, I don't think that's the case. And it's not about fans having an unfair expectation. It's about the university letting fans down. Okay. Let's start there because this started off as a proud institution. So my thing is, yeah, you could have done better than Billy Napier. The fans deserve better than that. Let's start there. So it's not about, oh, we'll want Florida to fail. It's the fact that the highlight reel from Billy Napier's tenure is a Utah game with Mullins players that you guys told me were losers with Anthony Richardson, who's a top five level draft pick that I was told couldn't play ball. Okay. And the second part of the highlight reel for Billy Napier is a bunch of indeed.com job postings. That's the other thing he did right. He hired a bunch of people who looks like he went O for whatever. So that's kind of what I'm saying. The opium for Billy Napier was never on the field. It was never anything that actually happened. It was him saying scared money don't make money and then cashing out his retirement. That was it. Yeah. None of this is surprising. Shouldn't be surprising to anyone, but the deal is when he was hired, everyone liked him and wanted him to succeed. So they looked with rose color glasses at reality. And now we're all looking back at the reality you're seeing exactly what I saw at the time. This is a dude who was way in over his head, had some modest success at ULL and wasn't ready for this job that Florida fans have told me is this top five job. If you have a top five job, don't hire some dude that didn't work at Clemson, who was you did okay for a second at ULL and was a recruiter and did not know how to scheme. That's my advice. Yeah. There could have been three. There was there's three whiffs with his defensive coordinator hires, yeah, three whiffs. If he had said from the jump, I'm going to have an offensive play call or I mean, and even that you're kind of looking back going. All right. Well, even if you had hired a guy who could have consistently come in and had a top 40 offense with any offense, but maybe you would have at least had an offensive identity. The highlight of the Billy Napier era is is is not even the Utah game. It's it's like it's getting easy. Like it's getting a guy that regarded. Yeah. It is. Hope be 100%. And so I think the question moving forward because like we will be talking about a coaching search is like, what is what does this look like? How will Florida approach this because Hopium will be sold again? Yeah. I'm I'm I've already shared shared my list on the show. We did that with with Neil where I went through. I was like, you know, Lane and Golis, I think Lance Leipold would be would be really, really interesting. You hit go to even like a Glen Shum and a Danson Lynn. If you were really. Did you guys are saying Shumi just got extended? I think he's, I think he's kind of happy as weird as that sounds extensions for coordinators be nothing when it comes to accepting power conference jobs. I think they he's happy enough to not walk into that mess. Potentially. Potentially. I'm going to keep being real because that was real from the beginning. Okay. That's all I could say. There's a chance that Florida fans are saying, I don't want a 34 year old who's never been a head coach before, right? It's, I don't know that Florida fans are really in a position to say this definitively won't work. This definitively will work. And I like Golis a lot. I really do. But see, that's what I said to you is I don't know who takes Florida seriously. Like I'm not even being like, I'm being so objective with you right now. When Mac and Mullen were hired, the last cycle, we were talking about Lincoln Riley, we were talking about, you know, these huge names up here, leaving where they were to go to Florida. And even, you know, I hate to make everything about LSU, but Brian Kelly was not available when he came to LSU. So it's hard, really hard after Nick Saban leaves and every coach gets, gets re-upped on their deal to go look at a random coach and go, I think he would come to Florida. I just have no idea who values this job or what they value. I'm sure they'll get, you know, whoever it is, or I'm sure they'll get someone who's fine. The point being, this isn't a particularly hard search to go look around the ranks because everyone's either been extended or they're happy or they would wait for another job or, then maybe there's a guy who like has a Florida background, grew up in Florida, loves Florida. That could be at the top of this list that we weren't thinking about. And I think that's what it'll be, right? I mean, Ryan Silverfield showed that he could be Florida State with Memphis, just somebody had suggested that to me. And I was like, oh, that's actually, somebody suggested that to me on Twitter, I'm like, apologies. I'm looking at who that was. I was like, oh, that's actually like not necessarily the craziest thing I've ever heard before. But the search that'll happen will be far and wide, like I fully expected that would be the case. Florida, to your point, has not poached a power five head coach or what we would call power five since prayer, because remember the time urban at Utah, they're still a part of the Mountain West. So it's a little bit different than like, oh, Utah is this big 12 school or at, you know, I guess, packed well, it was what they went to another big 12 course. But we've been that whole era there. That's wild. Well, like that's, that's the thing is that they have not gone for the heavy hitter. Neil talked about that of like this, this sense of urgency of like, would they actually finally be willing to go and poach instead of going for the up and coming head coach. And it will be dissected. But it's very clear, this is over and this isn't working. This is done. Stick a fork. And it's your point. Like this is, this, this, this is a positive, I promise, that is arrogance, right? It's not that they couldn't get those guys. Like you could kind of pat yourself on the back and have hope in that and say, hey, Strickland, I hope is, you know, playing for his job to whatever level that would be. They push the emolland, by the way, I don't know why I just blame this state dot. That was a dumb thing. Don't forget. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Sorry. But I mean, but again, Florida connection, like that seemed like a hand in glove fit. That's kind of what I'm saying about some of the lane stuff. I'm like, Dan Mullen was the easiest decision of all time to the point where you can't even really blame Strickland for it. Because it made so much sense. So yeah, he was not the first, like the, the number one, like frost very, like frost people like came out and said that he turned that job down, which at the time, I was like, that's, that's interesting that that happened so quickly. Chip, but he had Nebraska times. That's the thing. You know, say, you know, I'm all in it forties. I don't think Mullen will love Mississippi state for many other jobs. So this is exactly what I'm saying is like, you really don't know until it happens. So that's my thing is that in these other searches, I do believe Florida is at the ability to go get these guys. And I think they've refused it, you know, which is a great place to be. It's not like, well, we lose our guy, like when Leipold leaves Kansas, sorry, I hate to tell you brother, but you're not getting another one of those guys with Florida, they've just decided they don't want to pay the price tag, which at this point does not seem like an option. Yeah. All right. Let's move on. We've got a lot of stuff to get to today. Yeah. That's like another game that is maybe the reason why your voice is, you know, like 75, 80% today. That's, that's understandable. Yeah. That happens. LSU, South Carolina. This was not an SEC game. 2012 after dark, it was just played at noon in Columbia as far as I'm concerned, turnovers, some horrendous officiating a game that felt like it could have ended six different ways after LSU rallies back from down 17, nothing, but instead it ends with South Carolina barely missing a field goal that could have forced overtime, a kick that I thought was in when it was when it was off the foot. I was like, we're going to get overtime. This is how this is going to happen. Wild, wild game, a few things. And obviously South Carolina fans like, I feel for you just from a pure like, we think we're about to have this moment and now we don't get to have this moment. I totally feel for you. No idea what the offensive pass interference was that negated the long pass play. I get the unnecessary roughness call on canard for the late hit because you're trying to protect the quarterback when us Meyer gets hit on the pick six. It's still a brutal pill to have to swallow when it brings back a pick six. You lost your starting quarterback. You missed a potential game tying field goal by a foot to blow a 17 nothing lead to feel like national relevance was there. As I said in the preview pod, success is fleeting, very, very fleeting. That sucks. But well, you pointed out a couple of things that were probably lost in the shuffle a little bit. Just a little. Yes. Just a little bit. And one is that you are right. And I had this very brief moment watching this game. As I watched South Carolina leap over LSU to be able to block that punt and then beamer ball is off and running and that place is just rocking. Probably should have been illegal. Kelly said afterwards reviewing it with the SEC office. So let's hold on. Let's do these. Let's do these in order because, you know, everybody was so mad about officiating. I get it. I've received professional feedback, not just, you know, here, but at work that I need to be more succinct. So I'm going to try to be succinct here. Horse collar is a rule that was put in about 2008 counter. You understand that rule. When you saw that first pick six get called back, did you say yourself? That's a horse contact. So me and you understand there's a football that was an obvious horse collar tackle. So if you are mad at that call, you don't understand football, right? Yeah, it sucks that that was the result. But I agree. That was the play that you just can't make in that spot. I think that was correctly called. I don't think everything was correctly called. I thought it was. For sure. Losing sucks. I understand. So moving on, the hit, the blindside hit. I'm not surprised. Okay. So now I'm going to flashback a little bit to the, sorry, 2022 Florida LSU game where Florida landed on Jane Daniels. And I said at that time, if you've been paying attention to the game of football from the P.E. level to the NFL level, they were trying to regulate this hit out of the game of football. So if you're ever mad and that, that hit was even more touching go. So let me, let me explain something just really quick. In that moment, the priority of the South Carolina football team was not to win that game. The priority of the South Carolina football team was to hit LSU's quarterback in a what would objectively be a non football play. A play that does not factor into the decision of the game. So in that moment, there are priorities where I want to hit LSU's quarterback. So when you make a decision that says, I'm going to hit a defenseless player who is a quarterback instead of letting my team win in 2024, where this has been a priority for about 15 years, why, like, why would I feel bad for that person who could have simply done nothing and won the game? Yeah. I mean, there's like not everybody's. I'm saying I feel bad for, for, for South Carolina fans that thought that they had a victory. For sure. And their player made a bone head mistake. I understand. So in that moment, like, what, like, why was that so important? I guess is my question because you've already run the, won the game. So when you make that decision to do that, you've won the game. So you've, you've, you've taken away from your ability to win the game. I get, I get an emotional sport. Listen, man, I played sports. You played sports. We've been there, right? No, I'll say this. So, right. I mean, not at a very high level. I'm not saying I'm some great athlete. I just know that you have to have, that's why you don't just punch guys in the face. Like, right? That's why you don't just go out there and do unnecessary things. I don't know. A bunch of guys with a helmet on it. It's going to have a moment here where we're like, hey, maybe that's actually not the dumbest thing in the world. Right. So point being those are two calls that are objectively officiated correctly, right? We talk about, okay, here's the horse collar call. Here is hitting a defenseless quarterback in the middle of a play that you didn't need. It was a non, non football play. So those are officiated correctly, right? Yeah. I agree with you. Okay. So let's talk about something that actually was not officiated correctly. So and again, you could talk about the end of the game as you just get about the field goal. We'll get into that. But as a special teams ace, Shane Beamer, despite what we saw yesterday, you have to know that leaping over the shield is a penalty. Now I sent you a video, Connor, of Iowa, funny enough, another special teams, some team, getting called for leaping over the shield. What did South Carolina do that was different for what Iowa did? I don't think anything. I also don't think that Beamer addressed it. I don't know that he was asked in the post game about it. He sold. Because he knows the rule. That's the funny part. That's why I said I quote you. He said, I would love to ask Beamer about this. Because he knows this rule. He's like Beamer some. Yeah. I bet he does. I bet he does. And at the same time, it's like, you know, this game and if something goes your way, like during a summer. It doesn't count. I get it. I get it. There's two rules that have been enforced correctly that people are mad about. And then on the other side, we have a objectively blown call that myself, my friends, other exes and those guys, you, Brian Kelly, all sawed in real time and went, you shouldn't be able to leap over the shield. That's a clear and obvious penalty. And everyone's going, beamer ball, beamer ball, beamer ball. And that's fine. Okay. That's all fine. I get it. This is a fun, silly game. I'm happy with this being a fun, silly game. But I get out of this fun, silly game, and I see professional members of the media making eight to 10 tweets in a row, opening their WordPress page, going, we got jobbed. This is ridiculous. This was a robbery. And there are no responses to this leaping over the shield call to me. That's where, because like I said earlier, you know, with the Florida thing, I know sometimes I should be more succinct and I get labeled as a fan. But when the billionaire thing I called back from the jump, this is another one where I'm never going to let my fanhood outweigh my kind of like my professional opinion. There's not an LSU game that I've ever said this enough to be clear. There's never been an LSU game where I've gotten on here and said, we got screwed. This is ridiculous. I'm going to. I'm never going to count. This is a win. Which LSU game have I done that for? The Dallas Turner hit last year. You're pretty fired up. Yeah, because that was a non football play. I get that. And again, that was a non football play against a quarterback. Okay. But I get it. That's one. Okay. Now, everyone kind of saw that, right? But at the same time, there's, there's the one and again, it's a violent play. On the other side of that, I'm not going to make a professional decision to have my professional opinion of a game. As a Saints fan, I'm wearing a Saint shirt. I understand making your whole personality about getting messed over by officiating. It happened in nature too. Looks good. You sure did. Thank you so much. It's got to get guns out. I like it. It looks great. And that's what I'm saying. It looks great about getting jobs here. But the more that you guys talk about, two calls that were made correctly, and you don't even address the one that Shane Beamer didn't even address because he knew, you look like you don't know football, especially when you start talking about the horse collar hit. That we both went, huh? What do you mean? It's a horse collar hit. Yeah. The play that you brought up that I think is going to be the true moment that that Shane, the true decision that Shane Beamer is going to want back in this one is, is something that with everything that happened in this game and all that was going on, all the chaos, I don't even think I processed it at the time. I had to go back and be like, wait a minute, they did it. You're right. That's exactly what they did. South Carolina down three, obviously, at the end of the game, has one more play before it'll set up a potential game time field goal, and it's a run play to rocket that gains one yard. Yep. Instead of having a high percentage pass play that can gain four yards, five yards, we're having an offensive line that, like, honestly, South Carolina's offensive line look good. They look good. Yeah. They run their rocket. They set the edge. They like, they did a lot of things really well in that game. They push tell us you around on the offensive and defensive line. I mean, what I was scared of to the tee happened in this game. And if they, if they have that play, where run play gains six yards, they executed in that area. South Carolina is kicking a 42 yard field goal. I think we're going to overtime. I think that kid goes in and you pointed that out. He's like, dang, like that's going to be this type of stuff that's lost. And as much as it's so easy, because you're right, when things don't go your way and you feel like it's just a day in which everything is out to get you and you see it through that lens, it is so easy to forget about those little moments that make a difference in a game like this. It absolutely makes a difference in a game like this. And that was significant. And look, we ripped Gundy a week earlier for doing this first setting up the 42 yard field goal. He's like, dude, what are you doing? These are college kickers and setting up a 49 yarder, even if you, even if this is me revolve, even if you trust your special teams more than anything else, I thought that was a good observation from you after the game and something that's very lost in the shuffle. And if you're a South Carolina fan, like there are different degrees of frustration that came from a game like this, that should be part of it as well. Yeah. I mean, and like I said, I get being emotional. I may fan too at the end of the day. If we want to be emotional and talk about emotions, we can talk about emotions. If we want to talk about factually why South Carolina lost this game, here we go. Okay. South Carolina had everything going for it. They were smashing LSU. They're up 17 points. They were pushing LSU around, LSU had seven yards of offense to record and a half. Say what you're all about, the punt block. It counted. Okay. You were in there. You were playing bimmer ball. You were doing everything. Here's why you lost that game. Yeah. You have double log into your offensive coordinator and you can't generate more than nine lucky points in a second half of football with a senior quarterback that you brought in through the transfer portal. Okay. You don't trust your senior quarterback to hand the ball to your senior running back. Okay. Do we want to be emotional? Do we want to get better? Do we want to feel better? I thought the throwy made to set up that that was actually like kind of nice. I was like, Oh, this would be like a good moment for Robbie Asper to be. Oh, I mean, he got, he got handicapped by play call. I completely agree. I, I, that's the thing. The whole thought of, Oh my gosh, we have a backup quarterback brother. You guys chose to start a young quarterback who you only trusted his legs. You brought in the veteran backup who is a senior. This is your dream. Why did you get that guy at the transfer portal? If you don't trust him to kill an LSU team, just step on their neck when you have them on the mat. You didn't execute in the second half. That's why you lost this game. Okay. I understand blaming officiating again. I have a saying shirt on. I want to be real with you. If you think the reason why you lost LSU is because of officiating and you're not blaming double logins right now. This is exactly what I saw talking about double logins. I'm not trying to flame the guy. If you come up and you're crushing LSU at halftime and everything is going away and you have these two explosive plays that are going great and every big play feels like it's going your way. And yet you don't trust your quarterback number one to drop back and throw the ball. Every play you cause some gimmicky weird sideways run and LSU's DVs are saying, God, thank you. My hands are on my knees. I have too much cardio in this game, run it up and down, trying to catch Nick Harbor, throw the ball up because guess what happened? You did it at the end and it worked. Yeah. So that's my thing. I'm like, okay. So if what was the purpose of anything that you did this offseason, if you can't like because again, if you have Carson Beck or if you have, you know, LSU's situation, Nussmeyer, if you had Jayden Daniels last year and your quarterback goes down and you go, I got a backup. I can't win this game. That's fine. You just played more SEC football than your starter. Just so you understand. Let's be more said last week against Kentucky when sellers went out of that game as well. And he had like the 92nd thing with Katie George, we're like, does people know there's a game going on? Cause he has really taken a lot of time to explain the Robbie Asford thing. And like, good move. Good point. He goes on television and hypes up his trust in Robbie Asford. Where was that? Let him throw the ball, dude. It was single covers the entire second half. Blake Baker was sitting there with his hangover sunglasses on, daring you to throw that ball. And you did exactly, you did exactly what the defense wanted you to do for an entire half of the ball. And you got lucky at the end that you had a deep pass play. Imagine that. And then you misunderstood special teams again. And you again, just to be clear, beamer got his kicker's range wrong. If you want to talk about what we did wrong here, beamer got his kicker's range wrong. He trusted whatever his kicker told him or whatever. Cause that's what he told the crew. Cause that's where that line comes from. And the pre show meetings, they say, here's where my kicker's why I feel good about. You're wrong. Cause guess what? He missed it twice. Cause they got it. They got a timeout, which for a veteran kicker and a beamer ball off special teams should make you feel better. All you had to do is walk over to that kid and go, don't over correct. Didn't he missed it twice from the same range? Another thing that probably should get some blame. Donora Sellers ditched in the rec specs. True. What was I mean, when he came out when they're when they're rolling, I'm like, he needs to throw those things into the Atlantic Ocean. But like of all the, of all the things that you can like point to in that game, and there was a lot, there were some noteworthy developments. Every very noteworthy developments amidst a chaotic game. The matchup that we talked about so much, Garrett Nussmeyer, he gets pressured 15 times in this game, but only sacked twice, which I thought those are great battle. I thought it was really fun. I know Kyle Canard is going to get ripped for the place that he made that, that, that were flagged. But like, I thought that guy was a force. I thought he was just a disruptor in that one. I thought he was really, really good. Rocket Sanders is so back, so back and that's great to see. Like, I love seeing that guy, Holly Rowe talked about how he's down 23 pounds, and it's always the subject with weight with Rocket, which is just kind of weird. But that breakaway run that he had, like he saw the top end speed. I'm happy for that guy, because I feel like he has really worked and had to overcome a lot in the last like year to get back to feeling and looking like that. And that's good for South Carolina because they need to, they need to have that identity. He looks like he is worthy of being that identity. If this is 2022, 2022 rocket all over again, that would be a great development for South Carolina. Nick Harbor are two catches. Yes. He caught an out route. And I think I said Nick Harbor, I like shouted it from my couch. And it was like the most routine play ever, which just goes to show you how weird this thing is, but two catches. So that was, again, if you're looking for positives, that's positive. Harold Perkins at the star position, one of six LSU defensive players playing in a different position than where he was at week one. I felt like he was really impactful rushing the passer that time where Blake Baker sent him through the A gap. I was like, yep, that, that, that could work. That might be a good sound strategy. We've got six players playing new positions. Let's run the ball sideways. Oh God. Yeah. I mean, it was failure. Like it was, it was a failure from that standpoint, especially when I'm at Sage Ryan, we'll cover Nick Harbor one on one. That is a good bet that we should make like Josh Simon needed targets in the second half of that game. He needs to get a look. They got some dogs on that receiving core move. I mean, I feel like we, like we needed two and three guys to tackle everyone. Yeah. Other takeaway, LSU will be undefeated in SEC play for the Ole Miss game. That is not until October 12th, but that's because UCLA, South Alabama, then a buy, and then the Ole Miss game. So weird that it works out like that and that it's nothing but SEC opponents from that point out. Anything related to that before I get to one more thing that I want to talk about, just alone, who is paying you, brother, like which asset like brother, we ran the T formation on the goal line three times in a row. Will, are you selling some Joe Sloan stock right now? That was insane, brother. I don't know. Like, that's the other thing about this game that makes it hard for me to like feel sorry for anyone. I mean, I talked about Garrett Nussbier is going to have the devastating turnover. He did. Yeah. He did. And you guys decided to hit him like what do you, like what do you, even that turnover should have stopped. It's sideways. So it didn't matter, right? But point being, I think at the end of the day, you got exactly what this, this game plan followed exactly what you were looking for. Joe Sloan's been calling this game. It either looked like he had the boys do in taxes in the backfield. I don't understand why when you got seven yards, you got three motions before every play. These tackles, this offensive line is getting eaten alive. You can't just run a half back dive. I'm watching Florida State against Memphis get crushed fourth and one. They're doing a QB sneak and pushing guys forward. We can't even figure that out. We're in the T formation, bumping into Josh Williams, throwing the ball, the fact that we're throwing the ball on every big third down in the goal line, the same thing that I keyed in on in the USC game where I said, why aren't we running the ball in the red zone under two minutes? You don't want to give the team, the other team a chance. We can even make that case here. South Carolina shouldn't even been across midfield to have, Shane Beamer show that he doesn't understand special teams. We shouldn't have even been there, but Joe Sloan decided to throw the ball three times in a row with a goal line with under two minutes left. There were so many opportunities to win this game. I'm actually disgusted by how many times LSU should have lost this game. They played so freakin' poorly on the road. College game day was there. Everybody was up at 4 a.m. The place was rocking. Sam Storm was going, I watched my life flash before my eyes and towel login said not so fast, my friend. Not the best game for both these offensive coordinators, despite what the final score said. Yeah, I agree. It looked like they had that snap. When LSU was running that goal line play that Nuss Myer kind of anticipated pressure. He's tripping over his offensive lineman. It looked like the entire South Carolina defensive line had the snap count just perfectly time. I think it was Kanar that got in there and forced that pressure and that weird sidearm throw that didn't have any chance whatsoever. Yeah, I was stunned actually that LSU was able to punch it in at the end, but Josh Williams, LSU doesn't. And why was Josh Williams playing? It's so tinderim. Came Durham comes in. Came Durham looks like the happiest, like John Emory comes out explicably. It looks awesome. And it tears his ACL. They go, oh my gosh, you got to see more Josh Williams. Hayden Durham comes out his two of the sickest, I mean, for long touchdown runs, like disgustingly awesome touchdown runs in this game. We had so many. We had two from Durham. We had the sellers one before you got banged up. We had the two rocket ones were awesome, both of those ruled. And we're sitting there and I go, oh my God, we have Josh Williams and we're, we might not even run the ball here, but Durham could have three touchdowns. So yeah, I, there's a lot, there are positives in personnel wise for both of these teams to really be excited about because a lot of guys broke out despite their coaches in this game. Yeah. So I feel we'll not have that tackle attempts of Lenore sellers on it. I'm just going to say that. That's pretty safe. Make new a local public's near you. Dude, they didn't even get through. I don't even think. I'm just gracious. I hope, I hope St. Ryan is a good life. Let me be on record saying that. Fowler didn't even get through like the, I don't even know if sellers reached the goal line yet before he was already saying say, Brian, we've done that tackle and you're like, Oh my God. Yeah, it was easy. It was even worse than the replay. Okay. On a very different note. One of the highlights of my career was having Reese Davis botched my stat on college game day. Yeah. That was awesome. Pretty cool. Yeah. He called it. I love Reese. You know that. He called us Saturdays down south and that he said that game day confirmed Saturday down south sat that South Carolina is playing his own routine for the 111 time in the last 114 games. It was actually 110 and 113. I'd already done the math for them. They added one to it. I don't care. I don't care. Um, it's beyond cool. It is beyond cool that our company got a shout out on game day, especially when I spent probably like 15, 20 minutes researching that stat that they could have easily just ripped off and just not credited me and nobody would have ever known that. But the fact that they took the time for the leading to this game to be like, they dug into my, I think it was my, um, my like early thoughts on this game that I had that stat and, or you know what, maybe no, it was my, it was like a Tuesday column that I wrote about among like this being such a prime opportunity for South Carolina with game day in the house, all that stuff. And the fact that that, that got to mention was just like, it was very, very cool. It really was and like, you know, it's one thing to have, like to get all these awesome opportunities, like to go on fine bomb or something like that or to, to have like an interview with Tebow or Tebow says at the end of it, like, Hey, like I appreciate the fact that like you, you actually like watch and like feel like you know your stuff or having Herb Street reach out and be like, Hey, like I read your, like those, those moments have all been incredibly freaking cool and this was, this was up there and I'm extremely grateful. And the fact that people read our stuff is the only reason that that type of thing ever sees the light of day. So I was incredibly grateful and my day was already win at 1159 AM. It was awesome. Really cool. Yeah. I'm glad that I started that game with that to be honest because I needed it for a minute. Um, but yeah, I know that, I know that you're a big we guy and this one thing I really respect about you. But at the end of the day, a lot of that's you, man. I think at the end of it, like, you know, you do the research, you allow, you know, I see these giant Google docs and it's good to see when that gets rewarded and the people that matter are seeing it. And you know, it's something that I often joke about like, I can't think about it too hard because I would just get like, Oh my gosh, people are listening to what I'm actually saying. I sound like crap. What I'm saying doesn't make any sense. Um, but you know, the amount of research that worked that you put into this, I really see it. And you know, try to, try to give you a fraction of that back, but it's super duper cool to be part of the conversation in that way. Love it, man. Love it. And hopefully, um, singular Saturday down south next time, but that's next time. That's fine. We got some of the work for it. That's all that means. All right. Bama, Wisconsin. It sucked that Tyler Van Dyke, your boy. Can I still call him your boy? Is he still? Have you said that stuff? And he needs all the hopes and prayers he could get. And he's got to be somebody's boy. It's just me and tickle now. That's true. Oh man. Uh, it's like that he went down on the opening series of that game, but there's not a single quarterback in Wisconsin history who could have prevented that outcome. Not even Russ. Wilson Slender. Wow. Yeah. I'll slander it. And Russ, trust me, I'm a big Russ Wisconsin appreciator. I thought he was so insanely good that year, um, not even he would have led Wisconsin to a win. They just, they don't have the dudes. Yeah. They do not have the dudes. Bama had a huge bounce back week on offense. Melrow looked like the guy that we saw in the latter half of last season with like a couple of the Deborah wrinkles in there. And I think that was such a positive for Bama. It amazes me so much how upset it makes people that his drives every single time aren't these like 12 yard pass plays that where he's just being surgical. You know, it's like, and I get it. If we want to have a conversation about his NFL draft stock, that's perfectly fine to say that. Okay. Like that you're not going to be able to do all the things that he does and that that will not always translate. So I get it. That's, that should be a separate conversation. But you know, it's so hard to defend because even Kirby smart himself could not find the right answers to defend it. A guy that can throw on target deep balls, but also hit you with a 50 yard rushing touchdown. If you forget about that aspect, because that is what Jlamal row continues to do and it's not a finished product. It's not a finished product in the intermediate passing game. I am not saying that it is, but every single week this season, Melrow, despite some up and down moments, he has had at least one play that makes me think he is really progressing in that area and progressing in this offense. The dart that he had to, to, um, to Ryan Williams in week one over the middle, that Williams, you know, is able to get through a couple of Western Kentucky defenders go to the house. That play thought was great progression from Melrow, the, the rocket that he threw to Kobe Prentice that we talked about against USF last week, where he's stepping up in the pocket. It almost undoubtedly is going to be a Melrow run. Instead, he cocks it and boom, Bama touchdown in a key spot. And then the ball that he threw on that, the corner route, whatever you want to call it. I can't remember what exactly, what exactly the start of the route was where he hits Jeremy Bernard, perfect placement to be able to hit him in the end zone. Like just a spot that only he can get to drops it in a bucket. Melrow is trusting this offense more and more. And I know that's something that like the non Alabama fans, like that they do not want to hear. And I'm not saying that the box score is going to reflect that each and every week. But if you watch some of the, the plays that are being made, I think it definitely shows that. And obviously competition part of it that is easier to do against Western Kentucky is easier to do against USF, even though we are our scholars, inspectors, and obviously a rebuilding Wisconsin team that again does not have the dudes. But you're seeing maturation. It is there. And it's a great note that ESPN stats and info had. He is the first FBS quarterback to start three games with multiple passing touchdowns and multiple rushing touchdowns since 2010 Colin Kaepernick, first quarterback to do that at any point in the season for three consecutive games since Johnny Manziel and Jordan Lynch dated 2012. Jordan Lynch back. Love me some Jordan Lynch, NIU having a moment. But yeah, I do think like, Melrow against George is going to be a phenomenal test. I cannot wait to see what that looks like the year to year adjustments that Kirby's going to make. It's a different offense. Obviously that he's preparing for different passcatchers, all those different things. But I am excited. I am, I find myself so unbelievably fired up for that matchup because of some of these little wrinkles and some of these moments, not just the box score, but those moments from Melrow that suggest there is room to grow. And it's not just this is what he is at this point of his career and he will never get any better. He's medically got that dog in him. Right. It's like, to that point where it's like, it doesn't matter which yeah, he's got so many dogs at him of all good dogs getting larger as you go north, like he's just so he, the fact that whatever system you put him in, he's going to ultimately be a version of like trusting himself. I think part of that comes from starting off with Bill O'Brien being like, Hey, brother, maybe you shouldn't be a quarterback. He's like probably looking in the mirror and be like, Hey, here's what I'm about. Like here's, here's what I do. I could chuck it down the field. I could throw the ball over them, the mountains right there and when plays break down, I will torch you. And I think that adding, you know, this offense to that where, okay, we're going to make things a little bit easier for you. We're going to put in a little bit more of that run game. The offensive line will also be in attendance at portion of the performance, you know, things like that. You know, last year, it was just so criminal, what he was able to do, you know, we talked about this with Tommy, who I called Pete last time because he just looked at Pete, I guess. But he just looks like a Pete. I think it was, I don't even think it was Pete going. But like I said, it's like that when he gets off script, get your popcorn ready for lack of a better term. Right. Because on script, he's great. Especially like I'm hearing some type of a theme music where I think of Brad Williams now. It's not good. I'm seeing he's like the Leviathan. Like, like, I'm glad that we had the preseason context of freshman receivers in the SEC and I kept bringing it up like last eight seasons, Jalen models, the only true freshman receiver in the SEC to have 800 receiving yards. So that it makes us appreciate what Ryan Williams is doing even more because I don't know if you've heard that he's only 17 years old. He missed his prom. How many, how many catches has Ryan Williams had this year in which that has been brought up because I think it's 90% of them. Yep. I love that. Yeah. It's great. There are some guys too. Like they did that with durability. You know what? That's actually a good context because you look older than me like sometimes guys you're like, hold on. That guy's a freshman and like with him, it's the fact that he makes grown men reconsider their professions. I think it's really why you got a bit Bama and Ryan Williams and they'll roll Bama defense by the way, which that's going to be a fun matchup as well against Carson Beck in a couple of weeks. I am looking forward to to that aspect as well. Everyone was so dominant in this game that at some point, like middle, the third quarter, I think it was Gus Johnson's kind of looking to fill some airtime and he's like, he's like, I'm like, God, I was about to do with Gus Johnson. I'm not going to. I'm not going to do it. Gus Johnson. But he says to Joe. Glad he's like, have you ever been doing SEC game? Because there's nothing, nothing going to an SEC game to a concert. There are so many things better. You don't understand. Go. You don't know why I'm pressure, actually, Joe Gladhead, like, you have like five seconds of silence, I think it was before he's like, actually, since, you know, I've been doing this job. I haven't, you know, been able to get down there, which understandably so, it's hard to get everywhere. I like, I get it checks out. You also can't be Mr. like anti-ICC and then be like, I'm not even going to see game. Like, it's like, I'd rather be in a funeral, brother. I hate SEC games. What do you mean? He said, like, I'm impartial to dotting the eye and Gus Johnson was, yeah, which, look, I did not expect Gus Johnson to say on Fox. Have you ever beaten to an SEC game because there's nothing like it. That's how dominant Bama was in this game. Yep. And they were very much wishing that instead of watching Camp Randall filter out immediately after jump around, which by the way, Bama took part in. I can't remember the Bama player afterwards who was trashing that week's song. Yes. Oh, I saw that. I forgot who it was, but it was funny. Yeah. Songs that week. Songs that week. Jump around is cool. It's cool. There's nothing I will not stand for that. I will say that Bama has every right to jump around every right. You better enjoy that, that experience, especially when you're up big jump around is not, is not weak. We do not need to call that. There are some weak tradition. You want to call it turnover chain week? I'm here for it. That's turnover. Mardi Gras beads in the two. And by the way, pretty fire. All right. I can hear that out. That I, that I can get on board with, but you know, I will say though, at some level, right? We are like the SEC meme or I am at the end of the day as an SEC fan, which is like, I could joke about Alabama all day, but the joy it brings me to watch Joe Clatt talk about Wisconsin's GPA, you know, the third quarter of one of these games when Bama's doing jump around and he's gone. He's sitting there with his arms crossed saying I've never been to the SEC. That makes me smile. I'm going to be so honest with you. Because again, I don't let my feelings really get in my professional opinion the way some of these guys. So again, we're talking about one here will, but it's so funny to me to hear. Okay. Yeah. But it was actually loving jumping around. We agree. We think that's a great decision. We think even if it gets weak, we'll partake because we're not particularly stressed at this point in our day. This is like a little, little mid game jump, you know, about the suit up when they dumped on duck or jump around. He was like, that's enough. I'm putting on a helmet right now to defend that socks on. House of pain. It's one of the definitive songs of the nineties. Let's not trash that. Come on. What do we need to do that for? Oh, yeah. All right. Let's get to, let's get to Boston College in Mizzou ranked showed our only race showdown of the day it was Mizzou fans. I'm saying this out of respect to you. I respect you, Mizzou fans, Adam Spencer, all my Mizzou fans that are in my life. I am speaking as someone that is on your side, okay? But you don't look like the number six team in the country and that's perfectly fine. That's fine. That's okay. Okay. Do not get defensive. Don't get defensive. Nobody ever responds well when you tell them not to get defensive. By the way, I don't recommend that tactic. I can only say that because you're on this and not a Mizzou fan. I will not dismiss the fact that Mizzou beat a top 25 team after rallying from being down double digits, which, look, wins are hard. Wends are really hard. Go ask the state of Florida outside of Miami. Actually, you know what, I don't want to UCF shouldn't be part of that conversation. Oh, that one was hard. That one was hard. Wins are hard. Sometimes not hitting the two and a half points bread to cover for Connor's lock of the week is also really hard, but that's a different discussion for a different time. But look, I think Mizzou, you deserve to enjoy that and do not fear the worst. I'm not saying that. But even Mizzou fans can admit that you do not operate like that ranking suggests you operate. Number six teams in America usually don't get a second in 59. That is almost impossible. And 59 will, and usually they don't get to second in 59 by having their best player toss a ball at a defender and then take a guy's mouth guard and toss that as well to get to 50 yard penalties. We used to say back in the day, third in Nebraska, I like that. Let's bring that back. That wasn't third Nebraska. That was there in Hawaii. That was second Hawaii. You were the first continental, you know, cross continental flight for that one. Drink late in to burden for that, by the way, which I'd love to know how many times he's done that publicly. Now, privately is a different story, but like how many times he's really gotten after him because he just lost his composure and, you know, fortunately for burden, he was exceptional at some very key moments in this game. He made the big play to put the game on ice late. And of course Brady Cook is going to turn him in that spot after really first 20 minutes of that game. Luther Bird and third did not have a touch. And you're kind of wondering like, is he still feeling the effects of last week? I know he left with illness, just kind of a slow start to this season. And look, it was not just that burdens day was kind of up and down. Boston College took advantage of a couple of those coverage bus. They jump out to that 14 to three lead. And the good news is that Brady Cook, I think two years ago, he presses in that spot. He tries to do too much. Mizzou doesn't win that game. They don't come back. But Mizzou at this stage with this version of Brady Cook, understands, all right, it's not the end of the world. We feel like we can actually move the football. We have more than enough weapons to be able to turn to. This is not going to be a game in which we have to necessarily just be like, oh my God, we're going to need a Harrison Meevus field goal from 80 billion yards. By the way, Harrison Meevus isn't going to do any more, you get what I'm saying. But they didn't have to panic in these moments. And Mizzou was able to make enough of those defensive plays down the stretch, and they're able to close out of win. They didn't cover the spread. Oh, well, whatever. I am not saying that Mizzou is the F word fraud, by the way, fraud is the F word, but I am saying that we're not going to know if Mizzou is legit unless they go into college station and win, though, what will that really tell us? Because the last team that went into college station and won lost the following week to Northern Illinois. So official fraud watch, that's the F word. It goes into UMass because that's after that. If they look at it, they got this one at home. I started to say that to the rude, thanks to their AD, they would have been in a different situation. Do you think if this game was played at Boston College, like it was a few years ago that Ryan Bamford goes to that game, because I think there's a hundred percent chance he does and just stop the sideline, little corner stallions, if Mizzou can go into Ryan Bamford's house and win convincingly in October, I won't even mention the possibility of Mizzou being the F word. All right. That's my deal to you, Mizzou fans. You get it. You guys all are nodding your head, whether, whether or not you want to admit it or not, you're nodding your head. You know. Yeah. I'll tell them another F word, which is fun. Here's the thing about Mizzou. Here's the thing about Mizzou. They have proven that they will play to any competition they see. We talked about the close Georgia game. They had a close Georgia game last year. They made Tennessee think about rethink some things last year, right? But they also, and I know I'm giving like about the examples here, but like point being, they will just, they will move like to the level and really find you at your level. This is like where I'm going with Mizzou here. It is kind of funny. He just talked about, or I just talked about Bill O'Brien, not really trusting Milro early in his career. And now he has Tommy Castellanos, who is one of the most mercurial quarterbacks I've ever watched in my life. He is a guy who will just try to make every play. I'm sure Bill O'Brien. I love him. And he's so fun watching Bill O'Brien actively lose hair on the sidelines is so funny to me because he started off being like, I don't trust this type of quarterback. And now he's stuck with like a more risk for a quarterback. I love that. That's always fun. Point being. And I'm with you here, right, in that Mizzou will fight when you watch a Mizzou game over the course of our lives, right? And there were a couple of years where it was like not fun under Odom, but even when the defense was laughably bad, you would, you, it's like what the old, like, I can imagine like an old school baseball broadcaster saying, every time you watch a baseball game, you see something you've never seen before. I used to say that all the time when I interned for the Indianapolis Indians, like, sub new every day, guys, the news, it always played. It got like at least two and a half chuckles. Yep. And every time you watch a Mizzou game, you're going to see something you've never seen before. And we saw that the right matchup with Boston College with the burden play. You talked about again, see playing Boston College with Bill O'Brien and having that happen is one of the most explicable things I've ever thought about or ever seen when you really think about it. And yet, Mizzou will average about two of these moments a game. And that's why I'm so in love with them being good with this group of guys because I really need to prioritize their viewing again, like the Florida game last year was wire to wire. I was on a plane like trying to like watch that. So yeah, I love drink. I love the way he does things. I think it's fun. I think it's funny. I think we need more of this in college football. We're like, this is old school. We saw an old school game between Georgia and Kentucky earlier. These are the things I don't want to lose as we move towards the corporate era of college football. This was such a fun, silly game. You know what I can lose, though? That robotic dog that drink had before the game, college came back. So weird. He came on game day and had this little little smile, what's what's drink doing right now? And then they do the wider shot and they show that he is walking with a robotic dog because drink lives to try and troll Kiffin. And so he's like, hey, he's got juice Kiffin. How about how about this? And yeah, the robotic dog, look, I know that thing's really expensive. But if Mizzou had lost that game, that thing would have been haunted very, very far by drink. He would have been very mad at himself. I hope that thing wasn't near Luther Burden at different points of that game because, I mean, goodness gracious, that would have been a very expensive thing to replace. But Mizzou wins. And that's the good news. Mizzou can win ugly at this stage. Thank you for bringing that up. That was a nice cherry on top of that game. Yeah. Weird game, weird cherry on top of it. All right, let's close out with this one before we get to some overreaction or proper reaction. Not a ton that I need to discuss. I feel like with Ole Miss and Wake Forest, because this was so lopsided and it speaks to the complaint that I have about Ole Miss games. Well, they're over before that I remember that they're on. Yeah. They score too quickly. And now that they have a defense, the other offenses have no chance of actually making things interesting. The only thing that's interesting about the time that I turn on an Ole Miss game is how long Lane is going to leave Jackson Darden. So it's not like we all have some stop getting explosive plays, those were their kind of ball game. He left him in all game in this one. And he threw a ball to Juice Wells down the left sideline that I was watching, that I was watching live on the CW, which we'll get to in a second here. And he made just this like casual one-handed grab and I was like, Juice Wells confirmed back. I'm sure South Carolina fans didn't enjoy seeing that, but for Ole Miss fans that are hoping that he's going to be like the preseason all-SCC guy last year, who he was two years ago. That was a good sign of that. It is not fair that Ole Miss can just do that in a 33-6 game in the middle of the fourth quarter. The broadcast crew on the CW, by the way, the CW, yeah, that's where we're at with the infamous Tom Brennan on the call, said something to the effect of like, well, that'll do it after that. And I'm like, what game were you watching? Because when I flipped over to this game in the middle of the fourth, in the middle of the first quarter, it was like 20 to three already and Jackson Dart looked like he was already just messing around and having fun and this was like an interest squad scrimmage. But sure, I get that you have to sell a competitive game, but yeah, Dagger, I guess, all right? I'm sorry. I can't let this continue anymore. I had this game in a multi-view. You're telling me who's on the call here? Tom Brennan. Yep. Who's he wearing his headset again? He was. Tom Brennan of Nick Castellanos fame, who, by the way, I'm not sure if Thomas Castellanos has the same pronunciation, it might be Castellanos and we're like, I saw, I saw both variations yesterday, just as we have with Nick Castellanos, the very infamous, maybe the most infamous apology in history of announcing God. So, so that solves the mystery. He put the headset on again and called college football and CW. Okay. Yes. Yes. He was doing, I think, like, Mexican winter league for a little bit. But now he is on the CW of this game. I had a multi-view for a bit as well. There was, like, CW doesn't let you do a whole lot with multi-view, which is really annoying on YouTube TV. I'm still a multi-view guy. Don't get it twisted. I am. But yeah. This was, it was weird hearing that it was just a weird game all around from that standpoint of, like, the optics of it and, and how strange it was to hear that voice. You're like, why am I listening to this? But anyway, Jackson Dart took an nasty hit in this game, Texas helmet off, gets flagged and is joined with Wake Forest. I kind of loved it. Well, I kind of loved it. He wouldn't have done that two years ago. He would have taken the hit, for sure, because that's just what Jackson Dart does. But he, he did this thing where he, like, popped his helmet off and just let Wake Forest have it and credit the CW, CW rising in terms of production. They, like, captured his, like, close up of, like, like him, like, nodding his head. And I was like, I can get behind that. Like, I, I kind of like when a quarterback does that. I tweeted out the video, I was like, Jackson, Jim McMahon Dart, a little bit, a little bit. You can't say that he's leading, leading the Heisman race when he hasn't played anyone yet. The Heisman race is a mess. I guess. Yeah. It really is. But, like, he looks nearly perfect and he's playing with a defense that hasn't allowed a touchdown yet, which happened for the first time since 1961, the John F. Kennedy administration. That's the last time Ole Miss has started off this well on the defensive side of the R.I.P. Jeff. Yeah. R.I.P.J. Okay. What else can we say? Yeah. Ole Miss defense loses Jared Ivey. That's a bummer. But Georgia Southern next week, then Kentucky in Oxford. And by the way, Kentucky hasn't scored, again, hasn't scored a touchdown in two SEC games so far. Mm-hmm. Will Ole Miss enter October having not allowed a touchdown on defense with potentially a top three Heisman candidate at quarterback. That feels certainly possible very much. Yeah. With old Tommy Golden. Um, yeah, I think that's a good call back. It's hard to tell. It's hard to tell. Like, really because they're scheduled. I hate to be that guy. But, like, that's kind of been hate to be, you know, whatever, but to bring things back. But that was the thing with Pete was about these big games, right? So I'm really fascinated by Ole Miss because, I mean, man, they're swagging out right now. Oh, they're feeling it. They're feeling it. They're feeling it. Uniforms. Oh, they're feeling it. And, like, it feels like pretty much every one of those teams outside of, like, 2019 out of this year, maybe one of the Florida teams has ended up meeting some kind of justice. Whenever you start to get out there and you really start feeling it and mussin' on people and every game having the clips, but, like, this is a team that's having fun on that level. Like, I'm finally ready to say I've seen a team that's had that level of fun, the 2019 LSU had not talked about talent, not talking about ability, just talking about having fun. But I need to see it in the big game. Like, I desperately want to see it in the big game because they're fun to root for. Very much. Henry Parrish is currently the leader in the Philip Duke's term boomerang transfer, boomerang transfer of the year. Henry Parrish, also the potential Steve Bachemi from Billy Madison Award. I'm glad I called that guy. Which, Lane did post-spring. Looks awesome. Looks really great in that offense and getting the, obviously, the lion's share that carries with Logan Diggs still being banged up. So, very, very nice start for Ole Miss. Alright, well, yep. Overreaction or proper reaction. Let's start with this one. Arch Manning is the new QB1 in Austin. Sure. It's an overreaction. It's an overreaction. Great for arch. You know what? I am happy for that kid because when yours leaves this game, weird, weird injury. Like, couldn't really make out what it was at first and it ends up being a strained abdomen. TBD and kind of what his status is going to be moving forward with the schedule the way that it sets up would not surprise me if we saw them be really conservative with his return. Probably doesn't really bode well if you put a future on him doing the Heisman, missing power conference games doesn't really bode well for that. But, Arch steps in in, like, his first two scrimmage touches, touchdowns. And, yep, the run that he had, longest run by a Texas quarterback since Vince Young 2005. That'll get the folks fired up. Nice little wiggle. He's like, "I got that from my mom. I didn't get that from my dad." Shots fired just directly into the face of Archie. I heard somebody say, "That's the first time I've ever heard the word sneaky athletic and believed it." It was Arch Manning. Yeah. Little bit. Little bit. But, like, the timing is still a little bit... It's a little bit different. There were some moments where you're, like, you tip passes and stuff like that. He does the arm angle stuff a lot. And I still think there was so much more good than bad. To me, this is just, like, what we talked about all offseason, though, and why his development as much as we're going to overreact to everything, it's important because in the likely event that Quinn Ears is going to miss some time at some point, you'd like your quarterback to not be a total liability. And so far, like, I thought that was a really, really nice start. Also, this is a dumb thing to bring up here, but I'm going to bring it up anyways. I kind of love that Arch has, like, all these handshakes with everybody else on the team. Like, he's kind of wondered about that. Is he going to be the guy that's like, "Oh, that's Manning. He's off doing his own thing. We talked about it with the college wall video game that he didn't opt into, and then he fell off into. It's like, is he going to be kind of, like, on his own island the entire time? We didn't know. This is going to, like, whatever, get out of it quickly. You really don't know if you're going to get almost, like, RFK junior vibes out of him because he's so far removed from the whole thing. Like, he's Cooper's son. You're like, "Is this guy, like, the lost Manning? Like, what's going on with him?" And you see him play like, "Oh, this is a new kind of Manning. This isn't, like, a weirdo Manning. This isn't some Manning that has just, like, been off doing his own thing. We haven't seen anything. Dear point, he's been very PR-heavy. He's been, and you see him play and you're like, "Oh, this is fun. They're keeping under wraps. It's not some socially awkward kid. He's too fun. It's the problem with him." Yeah, and he's progressing, too. Like, he, I really thought he made those steps in the spring. So, but it also looks like we're going to see a lot more. We could be seeing a lot more of Arch. Again, it was UTSA, take that for what it is, but, yeah, that was a really, really nice showing and kind of the silver lining, of course, unfortunately, you were just getting hurt. That is just a trend that continues to repeat itself. Okay. Overreaction or proper reaction? Mississippi State might have won its last game of 2024. Hey, Mike, I got worse than last year, man. Well, this is a proper reaction because I want you to be my favorite right now. Oh. Okay. I want you to pull up the Mississippi State schedule for the rest of the season because losing that way at home to Toledo, so, so, so much worse, obviously, than what happened last week at Arizona State. Well, luckily they have a team worse than Toledo next week, which is Florida at home. So I think they'll be favored in that one, right? Goodness. Because everybody's going to call that a toilet bowl game. I'm just going to call it the damn Mullen Bowl and move on. Keep, keep scrolling on, on that schedule until you get to the next in Austin in Athens. Oh. Oh, oh, a and M and Starkville, Arkansas, Starkville, you mass Tennessee, Mizzou, Ole Miss. You had me at UMass, Will. Is Ryan Bamford? No way, right? Gonna rally the troops, the minute men. I know they're only three. I know it's Don Brown. I would never bet on Don Brown. I don't bet. Period. But if I did, I would never bet on Don Brown. Is Mississippi State going to lose to UMass? They can't. They can't. They can. Once you lose to Toledo, lose to anybody. Even maybe Florida. Toledo is bottom 15 in the country and percentage of returning production. It's like as much as like, okay, that's like a team that's been really solid in the back, you know, chasing candles, kind of one of these up and coming coaches. It's a respected program. And it's a great win for them, absolutely great win. Totally inexperienced and to come into Starkville and look like that, let's just say I don't feel terrible about predicting that Mississippi State was going to go winless and SEC play this year. That was bad. Really, really bad. You got two kinds of Ole Miss fans. The ones that are freaking out about Lane Kiffin and the Florida thing are the ones that are just laughing at this state and be one of their second guys because that's a much more fun guy to be. Yeah, seriously. Alright, overreaction or proper reaction, Hank Brown is the answer to Auburn's quarterback problems. Hank Brown. Great name. Great name. I'm not going to say it's a proper reaction because you played well enough against New Mexico. He's got, he's got a little bit more comfortability that will look to Peyton Thornev done that against New Mexico. Yeah. Did he do it against New Mexico State? No. Do we know that? That's the thing. I'm just going to start questioning everything. The data says yes. What we do know is that Hank Brown might be trying to do a Jackson Dart invitation. I tell me he's not trying to do a Jackson Dart invitation. Little bit, just be your own person, guys. We don't need more Dildenrellos in this world. Don't worry, I'll just do your own thing, man. Hank Brown will be the starter next week against Arkansas. Hugh Freeze announced that afterwards. I'm going to give Hugh Freeze a tiny bit of credit there for being willing to pivot this early. I think a lot of coaches would dig their heels in even more. Is it early to pivot off of Peyton Thornev? I would argue it's late. You're right. You're right. You're right. You're right. This early in the season. Give me Robbie Ashford. I'll say it again. Two coaches have now said he can't throw the ball. I don't know about that. Anyway. Robbie Ashford is a Joe Moore head product. He could probably figure it out. Yeah. But I mean like this early in the season to realize, buddy, if we just go six and six again, hot seat going into you three, he knows how this goes. You have to figure this out now and Hugh Freeze is going to turn him. Let's see how he looks against SEC competition. Let's see how he looks against a defensive coordinator in Travis Williams that I continue to have respect for despite the fact Arkansas didn't look particularly good against UAB. So yeah, we'll see how that plays out too early to say that Hank Brown is going to absolutely be the answer at the court of opposition. But it felt good. I learned to appreciate wins against the state of New Mexico. Yeah. One and one against them. I think the end of the day, you know, he just give me something. Just give me something, bro. Like even if it's bad, like give me a new bad, like that's the thing, like just turn the page, please. I'm so glad we did this. Okay. Let's do this last one. Tennessee is going to hang half a hundred in Norman college game day. Can it be in the house? In the college game, he's going to Norman with fans, 2012, the Notre Dame game, Band Titeo, Heisman campaign kind of launched in that one, been a long time, been a long time. They say Brian Kelly can't win big games. That was one of his biggest wins that Notre Dame, Amy's biggest win at Notre Dame. I'm going to say that's a slight overreaction, even though Tennessee's put up at least half a hundred in every game this year. They're going to need some help from Jackson Arnold. That's the thing. That's the help from their friends, but help in the form of like a pick, same thing. Yeah. I'll say it's a slight overreaction just because I think the Oklahoma defense will easily be the best defense that that Tennessee has faced so far and kind of wait and see what it looks like. True road atmosphere for Nico. First time he is going to be playing in a true road atmosphere. We'll see what it looks like with communication. All those things are going to be a question for the Josh Hyper reunion, but what Tennessee's offense looks like is just, it's like if you just tuned in to a game and you had it on multi view or something like that, you would be under the impression that they're just showing highlights the entire time. Everything is highlights. It's just, oh, look at that crease. Oh, he's gone. Oh, don't Samson touchdown. Oh, Bishop. He's touched down. Nico just dropped that one in a bucket, Chris Brazile, that's a touchdown too. Everything is a highlight. There are no like just like three yard runs and a cloud of dust every single thing. It's been unbelievably impressive. I am so fired up for that game next week. That's going to be great. Man. I mean, yeah, we need some help from the Oklahoma defense because Dylan Samson's making us look silly, but I considered him for the SEC rushing leader. I'm going to add myself. That dude is like, he's a real good man and it's, it's Josh Eipel with an actually kind of like competent quarterback. I mean, where else? But the NIL era of SEC football, can you see a dude named Eomili Abba throw the ball to a dude named Squirrel White? I love the silly sport. Um, but yeah, I mean that Oklahoma's defense in my opinion has been really good. It's the fact that their offense is so bad. Like I'm not kidding. Like Jackson Arnold is the biggest asset to Tennessee's offense right now because their defense is like, I like the matchup, it's going to be a good test, Oklahoma defense versus Tennessee offense. When you throw in the Jackson Arnold is also on Tennessee's team at times. I think that that makes it a little bit easier for Tennessee. Important that Jackson Arnold, um, uses his legs on this one because yeah, might be running for his life at times. Uh, he used his legs very, very effectively against to lane a game that got way too close for comfort down the stretch, Ole Miss or not Ole Miss, but Oklahoma still ends up covering the spread in that one, but Oklahoma fans were like, what, what is this drought that's going on right now? Um, because they just have too many of these lols in this game and you cannot have lols against Tennessee. You will not be a team that good. They're going to easily have to play their best game of the season in order to, to somehow survive that against Tennessee team that's off to a red hot start. Okay. That's a pod. Well, that was a loaded, loaded pod. Week three is in the books. How do you like the succinct objective will? It's a saint. I'm going to have to do like a, like a deep dive on the different uses of succinct because I, I interpret that a little bit differently. Um, you, you're fired up today. You're fired up. You're fired up yesterday. I didn't open up WordPress. Okay. Like I said, that's the line. I got to keep explaining to people, I guess, which is that when I'm having fun, I'm having fun. It's about my professional opinion. That's a little different. Yeah. Fair enough. Fair enough. I totally understand what you're saying. We will not name any names with that. If you haven't, please leave us a five star view, um, subscribe to our YouTube channel where you can watch every single episode of starting on the podcast. Well, it's on Twitter at the STS pod at set on top at teacher girl at go so far. Thanks guys. Bye. (upbeat music) (upbeat music)
Week 3 was a trip. The guys have a full breakdown of all the games, including Georgia surviving Kentucky, Billy Napier's rock bottom loss to Texas A&M, LSU beating South Carolina in a chaotic game, Jalen Milroe progressing, Mizzou struggling but surviving Boston College and Ole Miss on cruise control. The guys close with Overreaction or Proper Reaction.
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