ArchiveFM

Spotify, Oracle, and Comcast have each recently announced they’re going with co-C.E.O.s. In this 2023 episode, we dig into the research and hear firsthand stories of triumph and disaster. Also: lessons from computer programmers, Simon and Garfunkel, and bears versus alligators.
Duration
53m
Broadcast on
28 Oct 2025
Audio Format
other

Spotify, Oracle, and Comcast have each recently announced they’re going with co-C.E.O.s. In this 2023 episode, we dig into the research and hear firsthand stories of triumph and disaster. Also: lessons from computer programmers, Simon and Garfunkel, and bears versus alligators.  

 

  • SOURCES:
    • Jim Balsillie, retired chairman and co-C.E.O. of Research In Motion.
    • Mike Cannon-Brookes, co-founder and C.E.O. of Atlassian.
    • Scott Farquhar, co-founder and former co-C.E.O. of Atlassian.
    • Marc Feigen, C.E.O. advisor.
    • Jeffrey Sonnenfeld, professor of management studies and senior associate dean at the Yale School of Management and founding president of the Chief Executive Leadership Institute.
    • Laurie Williams, professor of computer science at North Carolina State University.

 

 


Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

"Freakonomics Radio" is sponsored by LinkedIn ads. Ever invested in something that didn't live up to the hype? Marketers know that feeling. They optimize for the numbers that look great, like impressions, but then they don't see revenue. LinkedIn has a word for that. Bullspend. Instead, you can get the highest row as a major ad networks with LinkedIn. Cut the bullspend, advertise on LinkedIn. Spend $250 and get a $250 credit. Go to linkedin.com/freakonomics in terms of supply. "Freakonomics Radio" is sponsored by PNC Bank. Boring. Great word. Bad rep. Yet time and time again here at "Freakonomics" we find that when something culture changing happens, boring things like calculations and careful planning are usually behind it. Which begs the question, why not apply it to other aspects of life? Like banking, for example. Well, PNC Bank did, since its inception, proving time and again that the best banking strategy isn't the exciting type, but the steady, reliable, definitely not YOLO type. PNC Bank, brilliantly boring since 1865. Brilliantly boring since 1865 is a registered mark of the PNC Financial Services Group, Inc. PNC Bank National Association member FDIC. "Freakonomics Radio" is sponsored by Hotels.com. Hotels.com helps you find and book the right stay for work faster. With business preferences, save your travel must-haves, like gym access or breakfast. Just once, then get tailored results whenever you search for work travel. Plus, with a free membership, you can save up to 20% on hotels and earn rewards on every stay for future travel. Book now at Hotels.com. Visit Hotels.com for details. "Freakonomics Radio" is sponsored by Amica. You know what they say? If you want to go fast, go alone. If you want to go far, go together. So, go with Amica and get coverage from a mutual insurer that's built for their customers. One that looks after what's important to you together.

Transcription truncated.

Spotify, Oracle, and Comcast have each recently announced they’re going with co-C.E.O.s. In this 2023 episode, we dig into the research and hear firsthand stories of triumph and disaster. Also: lessons from computer programmers, Simon and Garfunkel, and bears versus alligators.