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The new AI growth playbook for 2026: How Lovable hit $200M ARR in one year | Elena Verna (Head of Growth)
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You're ahead of growth at Lovable on track to be the fastest or one of the fastest growing companies in history. We're over 200 million in AR at this point where 100 people large. The pace here is insane. You said that you've had to throw out most of your growth playbook. I feel like only 30 to 40 percent of what I've learned in the last 15 to 20 years of being in growth transfers here because we just need to invest in such bigger bets and innovate and create new growth loops here. Everybody and their mother starting a vibe coding business nowadays and we need to figure out how to be ahead of them and to be ahead of them is not optimization of the problem. It's reinvention of the solution. I just feel like I usually spend maybe 5 percent innovating on growth in my previous roles. Right now I'm spending 95 percent innovating on growth and only 5 percent on optimization. What do you find is actually moving the needle? One of our biggest strategies is building in public and it's coupled with employee socials, founder led socials. And another one is giving a product away a lot. This is part of our growth secret sauce. You have to remove the barrier of entry. If somebody one of our users stands up and say, "Hey, I'm going to have a hackathon at my work on Lovable. Can you give us some free credits to play with? Why would we prevent a person who wants to do all of the marketing and activating for us?" From using us, we're like, "Take it. How much do you need?" The trick is get more people to try it, just ship things you can talk about. The only way to create a word of mouth loop is just to blow their socks off. Today my guest is Elena Verna, Head of Growth at Lovable. In under one year after launching, with fewer than 100 people, Lovable hit 200 million ARR, which is one of, if not, the fastest RAM to 200 million ARR in history, and growth is still accelerating. They've also recently raised a series B at a $6 billion valuation, so with that, there's a lot to learn about what Lovable has figured out about growth. This is Elena's fourth visit to the podcast, A Record. She is my favorite growth mind. And in our conversation, we talk about how the growth playbook has fundamentally changed for AI companies. What works now, what no longer works, and what a surprise or most about how Lovable grows. She also shares her advice about whether working at an AI company is right for you. Some incredibly interesting insights into Lovable's secret sauce for growth, the unique ways they operate internally, their approach to building minimal Lovable products, also how they hire, and also how product market fit as a concept is no longer what it used to be and how every company basically has to recapture product market fit every three months. This episode is incredibly tactical and you will leave this conversation smarter on so many levels. If you enjoy this podcast, don't forget to subscribe and follow it in your favorite podcasting app or YouTube. And if you become an annual subscriber of my newsletter, you get a year free of 19 incredible premium products, including a year free of Lovable, Rupply, Bolt, N.A. and Linear Dev
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