Lenny's Podcast: Product | Career | Growth
A guide to difficult conversations, building high-trust teams, and designing a life you love | Rachel Lockett
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When clients come to you, what is the biggest gap they have that is keeping them from being successful as leaders? Most leaders, especially technical leaders, assume they have to have all the answers. People have climbed the ladder because they've been dependable, reliable, the smartest person in the room. But great leaders know that when you try to advise and have the answer all the time, you're not actually equipping your team to go solve the hard problems. You're training your team to come to you with all the hard problems. Difficult conversations are difficult. How do we help people make them less difficult? We operate in check, like we're supposed to give all of ourselves, all of our time, all of our energy to this endeavor, and it's purely logical. It's not at all true. It's completely emotional. Professionals have feelings. People, when they want to have a conflict, they come in ready to prove their point. There's a misguided view that the goal is to convince the other person that what they're doing is wrong. Actually, the goal of any conflict is to create mutual understanding. Talk about what you've learned about helping leaders in tech avoid burnout. When people are in their gifts and their strengths, they have more energy. We all have more energy when we're operating from the things we naturally are good at. It's no one else's job to help you live in your gifts. What I notice in big companies is people are often annoyed or frustrated with their management for not making their job more interesting. No, your manager's job is to help you perform in the job you are hired to do. It's your job to navigate your career. The power of this is this makes your life so much better. Honey, let's try it. So I want you to tell me a challenge, something that you're struggling. The main thing I struggle with these days is just... Today, my guest is Rachel Lockett, an executive coach and former longtime HR leader at Pinterest and at Stripe. She works with CEOs and founders and leaders at tech companies on both ways that they are emotional and positive intelligence, resilience, and courage, and what they do, setting vision and strategy, prioritizing, and building trusted and accountable teams. She's someone I've heard a lot about over the years from other podcast guests and this conversation is powerful. It's jam-packed with advice and tips and frameworks that'll make you a better leader and also a better person. We even do a couple live coaching sessions to demonstrate some of Rachel's approaches, and as you'll see, I had a number of epiphanies during this conversation. If you enjoy this podcast, don't forget to subscribe and follow it in your favorite podcasting app or YouTube. It helps tremendously. And if you become an annual subscriber of my newsletter, you get a year free of a ton of incredible products, including dev and lovable replet, bolt in it, and linear super human-descriptless proflogama perplexity, warp granola magic patterns, raycast, trapere, demobboard, and stripe atlas. Head on over to lenniesnewsletter.com and click product pass. With that, I bring you Rachel Locket after a short word from our sponsors. 1.3%. It's a small number, but in the right context, it's a powerful one. Stripe process just over $1.4 trillion last year. That figure works out to be about 1.3% of global GDP. It's a lot, but it's also just 1.3%. Stripe handles the massive scale and complexity of many of the world's fastest growing enterprises, including 78% of the Forbes AI50 and more than half of the Fortune 100. There's a reason I've had more leaders from Stripe on this podcast than any other company. They know how to build great products that scale and that people love. Stripe is also a lot more than just payments. They've also got a category leading billing solution and a highly optimized checkout experience built specifically to increase your checkout conversion. Enterprises like Atlassian, Figma, and Urban use Stripe to create fully branded and customized checkout pages with access to more than 125 global payment methods. Join the ranks of industry leaders like Salesforce, OpenAI, and Pepsi that are using Stripe to grow faster and grow GDP. Learn how Stripe can help your business grow at Stripe.com. My podcast guests and I love talking about craft and taste and agency and product market fit. You know what we don't love talking about? Sock 2. That's where Vanta comes in. Vanta helps companies of all sizes get compliant fast and stay that way with industry leading AI, automation, and continuous monitoring. Whether you're a startup tackling your first Sock 2 or ISO 27001
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