Hey, folks, it's Grit and Glitter, a weekly podcast dedicated to the power of women's wrestling. My name's Harley, her name's Em. Welcome to the show. Hello. Hello, party people. This week it is October, if you're listening to this episode, October 2024. You know, it's a big dour world out there. There are wars, there are genocides, there's bullying, there's shootings, there's an election coming, very dangerous. So this week on the show, very serious time here in Grit and Glitter, we are discussing one of the most pressing issues of our day. That's right, we're giving it antidote to all the like, heaviness out there by embracing the like, the princess of pop right now, the queer, the queer femme princess of pop. And you know, honestly, but it's great. Like, this is the time of year when, you know, especially with everything going on right now, we need a breather and for the last year plus, everything has been chaperone this, chaperone this. So that, so like, we're going to get on that train too. Let's, let's bump up our ratings here. Let's, let's join the bandwagon, get some, get some cheap, some cheap, not heat, but like bumps. I don't know. Let's, let's go mainstream. Yeah. Speaking of cheap pops, it's vowel chords. Oh my gosh. Hi. That bumped our rating up by like 10 listeners right there. That's right. All you vowel chords stands. We've got her. She's back. Here I am. She is back. You know her as the force behind Daryl apparel, making gear for all of the future legends and Hall of Famers. Who have you been working on? Who can you tell us that you've made gear for recently? Uh, let's see. Recently I worked on a Halloween set for Clark Connors, which I won't spoil, but it'll be cute. Um, and, uh, let's see. I've been getting more involved with like the, I live in Phoenix. So I, I've been getting more involved with the local scene here. So I've had like been going to, you know, some of the shows and like actually meeting the clients in person and taking measurements and all that, which is super fun. So, oh, and then recently I did something not too long ago. I did something for Abby Jane and then Pancakes, uh, is going to be debuting something really pretty really soon. So keep an eye out for that. Oh my gosh. So exciting. And also joining us, first time guest here in the show, we are very excited to welcome them. They are a visual artist who has made many a chapel room and many a hangman page piece of artwork. Monique Garcia. Hi everyone. Again, I'm super excited to be stoked to be here. It's interesting just because I always do art and post on Twitter. And I'm just like, you know, out in the void. Um, so it's really, um, fun to kind of see people respond so positively to it. So thank you all for having me here. Thank you so much for being here. I feel like we couldn't do this at particular episode without you. Ooh. Okay. Now the heat is really up now. Yes. So literally the plan this week as we said, hey, let's take chapel's album. The rise and fall from midwest friend says she had a couple of EPs as well. She has a single since then. Let's focus on the album. Fourteen songs that just go song by song and assign wrestlers or storylines or anything your heart desires. Essentially, let's just have some fun here. I really have fun. [Music] [Music] [Music] Let's know what actually quickly before we get into it. Now how do you get in the chapel? Oh no. Um, well, I'm going to be a very, very new fan because actually I recently, I of course have been hearing chapel rooms name for the last few months. Um, and had kind of heard some of the songs in the background, but it was really when she did that performance at Walla Palooza and she had that beautiful ensemble with the lucha mask and everything. I'm like, oh that's sick. I want to make that. So I started making the mask before I had heard any of her music. So while I was making the mask, I listened to her album like, you know, to just like, as I'm making it, just put all the chapel energy into it while I was making it. But like, I'm a brand new fan, but I have like listened to her album on repeat for like the last month. So it's like probably my favorite album that I've heard in a while. It's very good. Moni, what about you? Um, so actually, back in November, my friend, Hell, had sent me the album and was like, you need to listen to this. This is incredible. Like, I need your thoughts on this. And I was like, oh, absolutely. And so I listened to the whole album. And I remember like a lot of songs like really stuck with me like California, naked in Manhattan, like those were immediately like jumped out to me as faves. And so as I kept listening to her, like throughout like the rest of the year, like the rest of the album started to kind of like stick to me. So like, I would go on walks and listen to feminine nominon, like on repeat. It would make me feel like pumped and like crazy. And you know, I think there was also like a beautiful kind of merging of like chapel and like wrestling and seeing, you know, David's edits of like hangman and pink pony club and like all of that kind of like heightened like the listening experience for me of her. So that's kind of like how I started and how I've been kind of moving in her music. I love you saying that you would listen to feminine nominon on repeat and just get pumped because that's like my gym song. Like then I will put that on repeat. I'm like, yes, let's do this. That's like my if I'm getting, if I'm like, you know, getting that up to go out, like that's yes. I heard the pink pony club single a couple years ago at this point. And I was like, Oh, fact, this is like queer and theater kid energy. And I'm all about this. This is so good. This is like scratching that like pop itch. And like, I'm a personal believer that everybody has their pop diva. And like, like some people are, you know, big teams with fans. And like, that's like, they're one big pop fix or Beyonce or Lizzo or like, there's things, Liz goes on. And for a while, I thought it was Carly Rae Jepsen. But for me, but I think, um, I think chapel road is like officially my like particular pop diva. And if Don Hallowell is listening to this, Don, you can just take your like cooler than thou attitude and just, you know, sit back because Don was into chapel run before everybody else was. And so now likes to whine to me about the straights ruining chapel run for it's me. I'm the straights. I think they're mostly kidding. Yeah, it's funny. Like I, I mostly listen to like, like unknown indie pop bands and jingle pop and like, I'm not plugged into, I don't even know what's going on in mainstream music. Like, I've never heard of Sabrina. Is Sabrina Carpenter? Yeah. Okay. I know, I know she was on the Boer Means World sequel series, but I don't think I've ever heard a song from her or anything like that. I still don't think I've heard the Kendrick Lamar song of the summer. But back in the spring, the chapels, um, tiny desk concert was going around on Twitter. And I'm so not plugged in that I was like, Oh, who's this Drake Queen? It must be somebody from like, Drake race who released a single or something. Okay. And then like two weeks later, my wife started playing the song, the playing album in the car anytime we'd go anywhere, like just playing the album. And I've always, no matter what the genre of music is, I'm always a real lyrics guy. That's just like, I'm not about the melodies or the beats. It's all about lyricism for me back to like when I was nine listening, I counted crows. So the fact that her lyrics are so like witty and clever and featurely puns and stuff, but then also like, fund them when they need to be like in feminine feminine on that just all that really hooked me. And next thing I knew, like I was, you know, listening to it by myself on Spotify on my way to work and things like that and getting pumped up, even though I am like a straight white dude. So it's funny. Yeah, just really, it really grabbed me in a way that I was, I did not expect. And now I'm hooking that. And then the more, the more I read about her as a person, stuff, right, the more like I really respect her as well, because she is so true to herself and brave and like, and going through it right now with celebrity culture. Yeah, I mean, she seems like a genuine like weirdo in the best way. And I like relate heavily to that. I think that what she's bringing to the pop music scene is so interesting and eclectic. And I love like the visual references and the fact that like, she basically, since this like, since her rise has like really leaned into bringing like camp and drag performance and like big broad concept artistry to both like the music and the like, the visual looks of her upper life performances. And I just, I think that's really cool. There's something like so wrestling about what she's doing. So no real structure to this little game here, everybody can just choose to up to approach this topic. Wrestlers has chaperone songs, however you see fit, if you want to come up with a theme, like I came up with a theme for my picks, you didn't have to. If you do have one though, feel free to let us know. Other one. My theme is that every single song is about Mariah May and Tony Saran, you mentioned a call in some way, but some more than others. So you know, we'll go from there. And who spoilers? Let's start off with like the big like good, like good high profile queer references, queer referencing in pro wrestling right now. Because I mean, who's bringing it more than those three. Great. Yeah, I wasn't going to start, I was going to let her guess start, but on that topic, yeah, feminine on track one, I have my nose Mariah May and Minish your call. That's the first thing every video package from this summer with them and with Tony, I was like, Tony Khan, get off your ass and license this song. Slap it over this video package. Come on. Materials there. That's actually really fun though. I think for my picks, I was kind of, I think because chapel songs are so particular, like it's hard to be like, yeah, who's like knee deep in the passenger seat while they're eating me out. Like it's kind of hard to be like, yeah, that's XYZ. So I was trying to kind of be a little bit broader or like, all this kind of vibe feels more so like this character or this wrestler or this relationship. So for feminine, I actually went with Matt Jackson. It feels very. I love you so much. That's so good. Like I'm right there with you. That's an incredible thing. God, just yeah, replace their music with with that next time they're coming out, like the young bucks. It comes out with this little earring and it's just make a bitch go on and on. I love it. I think that's like, I think one of the, like one of the aspects that makes this both like easy and kind of tricky is that like most of these songs could make really good entrance music. So you could picture it on so many different wrestlers of any gender of any type of promotion or type of style. So like it is flexible in that way and also kind of hard to narrow down in that way. I promise that I kept coming back to Dalton Castle. Wait, okay, hold on. Let's see. That looks so good too. I kept coming back to like Dalton Castle for like half of these. So, but I will reserve that for another one because I think there's probably a better one there. I don't know. I really like for whatever reason, the person that this spoke to for me for like the women's roster, especially for taking like A.W. or like, you know, big, like big women's wrestling stars right now, I was thinking like, I don't know. I think Willow could have a lot of fun with this song coming out. I think she has entrance music that's like big and poppy and like kind of like funky, but like, I really like the idea of like twist now a little bit and giving her a harder beat to go with. Yes, I kept thinking of Willow for a few of these songs too. Like, you know, of course, more like poppy upbeat ones, but I couldn't decide which one. But I like that choice. I did not settle on any one for this one. So, I'm just gonna, I really, I'm gonna second the Matt Jackson. I like that. I feel that in my soul. I just like, I can see like his sassy little face and it's it's beautiful. All right. And as the token Canadian here, I have to ask you three, how is Papa John's? Is it any good? I've only had Papa John's coming off of being high. So, you know, whatever. I feel like, okay, I feel like it's fine. It's fine. It's fine for like, you know, just pizza delivery. I always have been a big fan of the big cups of garlic sauce that it comes with. So, I'm pretty happy about that. I haven't had Papa John's in so long. And I know that the like owner of Papa John's is real like dirtbag. So, like, not a big fan there. But as I remember, it was always okay. Like, better than Pizza Hut, not as good as like a local as like a local chain or local place. Perfectly serviceable pizza that wouldn't give you like the shits, like pizza, like Pizza Hut would completely agree. It's like better than Pizza Hut. And that's maybe the best thing we can say about it. Not guaranteed to give you the shits. I'll put it that way. All right. I'm bringing the endorsement here from Emfier. That's right. Yeah. I don't think they had I don't think it's in Canada. If it is, it's not certainly not as prevalent as the Canadian pizza chains. What's a Canadian pizza chain? Like, what do you guys have? The biggest one is Pizza Pizza. But it's not it's not good. It's like it's it's just cookie cutter. It's like very whatever. Pizza Nova's good. And and actually it's not it's American, but we get dominoes a lot because they've got like points now. And so we get like free pizzas if we buy like that. I'm a sucker for points. All right. Track two. Moving on. Red wine supernova. I honestly think this was the first song that I fell in love with from the album. Something about it just really really caught me and really grabbed me. Oh, the lyrics is incredible. Oh, it's so good. And like, I love little Colin response bits in this. She uses that quite a bit in her songs and I'm a sucker for that. Like, so anytime it just scratches a really happy itch in my brain where like you just get those like little like backup voices. My favorite part of any chapel rune song is probably when she's doing like the breakdown in red wine supernova. And she's like, with some roommates and you hear the background vocals go, don't worry. We're cool. So I think this is a good time for me to say my pick for this song is the best friends. I like to think back to the era of when it was canon that that orange and Chuck like shared an apartment and you just slept on the couch and all that. So that's those are the cool roommates. Well, that's so good. And Chuck would totally have like a twin bed and start off by saying that it's a California king. Well, actually, it's a twin bed and it's also roommates. All right, it's gonna be hard to top that one, but I'm gonna give it a shot. No, I'm sorry. I'm scratching my take. I gotta go bow. Good. I like when I like when we're convincing each other on these ones, Moni, got anything different? So for this one, I actually really felt like Kenny and Ibushi, like their kind of relationship just because it's like, she showed me things I didn't know. Like this kind of fun, like you're this brand new person that like you're bringing so much out of me kind of vibe that I thought was like super like fun for them. So that's kind of like where I went for that one. That's such a good pick too because like the whole chase in this song, this whole like kind of chasing after or like being kind of chase chasing after not really knowing what you're going for, not knowing what you're getting into having that person bring out like really compelling excitement, but also like potentially like crashing burn, which is so much a part of like the golden lover story. I really like that. That's a really good pick. So the theme of my list, I specifically went with AEW women for the whole list. I just like I'd like to give myself those restrictions made it a bit more of a challenge for me. But like I said, this was like my first favorite song by her. So I really was like, who do I get to see this so many people so many ways I could go. And then I kept coming back to put her K9 teeth in the side of my neck and I went, you know what? Abaddon. I can't remember who was it that Abaddon like bit on the neck and like big gushed blood everywhere? Oh, I don't remember. I don't either. It's just like a bloody fun time. Oh, I think it was Sheeda. Oh. Yeah. Abaddon wrestlingform.com. December 2020. Abaddon bites Hikaru Sheeda and quote, took a chunk out of her neck, quote, sick. There you go. That's good because I didn't have Sheeda on my list. So she gets an ordinary inclusion. There we go. That's being the victim of the red wine supernova. All right. Track three after midnight. Moni. Okay. This one was kind of tough for me. I kind of went very like casting mine very wide. But I kept sitting with the lyric of like, everything good happens after midnight. Like, I want to be bad. Jack Perry came to mind here. Like, he's kind of turned to like, I'm going to be mean. I'm going to be like really like an asshole. But in the context of the song, I think there's a fun kind of, I don't know, feeling to that too. So that's kind of what I went for that one. He wanted to be a freak in the club and see him punk said no. Yeah. It's okay. That's a good one. Yeah. On that, on that similar note, I was like, after midnight, midnight, midnight. Okay. Julie Hart. Julie Hart has a black. She was a good, good girl for a long time. And now she's spooky of a witch. I thought about her for that one too. Yeah. Good. I'm glad that, uh, Moni mentioned the Golden Lovers for the last song, because, uh, for after midnight, I picked bisexual Cody, um, chasing the Golden Lovers. Evil bisexual Cody. I don't want to kiss your boyfriend if you don't mind. So, it's so good. I want to kind of change mine up. I feel like I'm going to keep defaulting to how many or bowels picks because they're so good. Oh my God. This is such an evil, this is such an evil Cody mode song because it's all about just starting it. Who do we, who do we know that can make every single one of these into little music videos for us? You're out there. I know you're listening. Someone, please reveal yourself, make these videos. Please, the fancams and the edits that have to come out of this. It's important for the ecosystem. Listen, my partner's a video editor, so I'll see what I can do. I'll just throw mine in because I think she's so good at like playing the, like, playing the type who would start some shit in the club. But, uh, got to go with my girl, Mercedes Monet. Throw in her, throwing her power around, throwing her big star status around, the CEO, like, no, who's gonna, who's gonna start those fights in case whoever she wants, other than Mercedes, like, come on. But evil Cody is so good. No, I'm sorry. It's evil by sexual Cody. Oh God, I miss him. I know people, I know. He's American hero right now or whatever, but like, no, evil by sexual Cody. Track four, coffee. You know, for both coffee and casual, I didn't have anything that, like, I landed on. So I'm here to, to weigh in on your, on your ideas and your takes. I get it, Em. This one was really tough because, like, yeah, I had similar problem with casual and, like, one or two, the other songs too, which are, like, a little bit more downbeat and much more specifically about, like, breakup slash, like, heartache and yearning and longing and bad decision-making. So I don't know that I've had a really good one for this. That was when I had kind of a question or question mark on. What about you, Moni? Anybody? Okay, let me, let me throw my hat and see, like, if anything sticks. So for coffee, I was envisioning the hangman and Kenny tag team era, where, like, they, like, they just, they never had a tag team name. They kind of had this very tumultuous tag teaming era, but they know that they're kind of, they keep kind of being drawn to each other, but they just know it's not good for either of them. So that's where I was gravitating towards for coffee, but I did have similar things of, like, that's kind of hard for coffee and casual. I love that because I was, I was thinking, like, okay, somebody, like, like some combination of, like, the past elite, I feel like where it's like, you know, the ups and downs keep coming back together and it hurts because we still love each other, but I wasn't, I didn't land on anything, and I think you got it. So I love that. Okay, and actually that kind of jogs me out of my brain, too. Like, I love that one and I think I will, like, kind of run on the same train and say, when AEW was running the storyline with Eddie Kingston and John Moxley, and, like, when, when that first was going on and they were, like, basically, like, estranged, like besties, but now, like, foes, et cetera, like, and, like, there's clearly a lot of, like, big, big, big feelings there that can't be outwardly addressed, like, at all at once, but inevitably come out in explosive ways. Yeah, so that would kind of be my pick for this one. I love that you said Mox and Eddie because I do have them down for another song, but that's not until later. Oh my god, oh my god. On the topic of coffee, I'll be honest. This is a skip for me. It's the only skip on the album. Like, I, I think this, I just, I don't know. I think the song is really boring and I usually want to skip it, and for that reason, I chose Brit Baker. Also, dentists always say, like, coffee's bad for your teeth, so it, that, you know, I, I did think, I did have that thought too. I'm like, coffee, dentists, I don't know. All right, casual. Now, this, this is maybe the most sexually explicit song on the album. Why? Because the text was going down. I guess, yeah. And I'm a gentleman, so I'm like, what? I can't, I can't just be like, Tyra Valkyrie and Johnny TV. Like, that's no, that's a little on two word for me. I think it's funny. Just like a really brief side out about casual. It's like, I think it's really funny. This came up in my mind on Friday because I was at a karaoke thing. People have mentioned, like, it being explicit because she's talking about, like, having sex and, like, getting eaten out in this, um, in this song and how, like, oh my gosh, it pops on. That's so racy, et cetera. But let's be forget, in 1994, Alanis Moore said, reminded all of us about, uh, her and her, uh, ex when they were together, um, having, you know, liaisons in the movie theater to the tune of, does she go down on you in a theater? So I'm just saying, like, why is it more explicit when it's like, oh, I think because it's, because it's in the, like, chorus. That is sort of a one-liner is what, is what my guess is. It's a good point because, and I did think about this when I was doing an overnight lock in with my teens and they wanted to control the music and they were playing lots of time on set on life. I think they're a bunch of 13-year-olds singing this out. Oh, she's a couple of times. My niece is 10 and she, my sister says, like, she loves this album and I'm like, should she? Sure. Learn, learn early girls. And even the outro, it's like not even just the, the chorus. It's true. Yeah, because there's about, like, you know, like, fucking in the bathroom. And, yeah. Yeah, so this is one where I really, I avoided specific lyrics and I tried to look more at, like, the spirit of the song because the song essentially is about a relationship where one person kind of holds more of the power than the other. And the other person is, like, their friends are basically watching them and going, like, what? Girl, what are you doing? And so for that purpose, I went with Athena and Billy Starks. Hmm. Oh. Billy Bean, the, like, girl, what are you doing? Like, you just, you had, like, three-month period last fall where you came to senses and saw how she treated you, challenged you for the match, lost, and then, oh, now we're friends again. And now we're heading into the fall and it's going to happen again, like, like, wake up. Yeah, kind of, like, having it be, like, a cyclical thing, like, it's always just going to keep being casual for one and not for the other. Anybody else? Moni, I'm sure you have somebody. I was trying really hard, even at work, I was, like, thinking, I was like, man, like, I know there were some that I just knew for sure, but I also kind of went in a similar direction of, like, obviously, like, the lyrics, it's hard to apply them directly, but the sentiment of it. So here it was, again, Matt and Kenny, in particular, I think, during the era of, like, when Kenny was kind of focused on Ibushi and, like, reaching out to him, I feel like Matt kind of was on the outskirts or, like, was very much kind of, I don't know, wanting a lot of his attention and not necessarily getting it or, like, feeling a lot one-sided. The elite are really just a breeding ground for trauma. I, like, I'm loving this because, you know, I don't watch nearly as much wrestling as I used to, so I'm coming in here, like, I don't know, like, all I'm going to be like, is like, guys, I remember bisexual Cody and the elite and all that, and I'm like, oh my god, that's what we're talking about, that's my shit, okay. Always. Maybe bisexual Cody is in every one of these songs, I don't know, maybe he's always here. Nobody's coming in like, this song reminds me of referee Rick Knox. Yeah, it's, come on. Don't give away my later picks. Yeah, I think the best I got for casual is I was thinking about the whole, like, breakup of the best friends and the whole, like, breakdown with Trent and, like, and Orange Cassidy and Chuck. It doesn't exactly map, but I feel like this, the song addresses, like, what it's like to be in a, like, to not be in a relationship with someone that you thought you were in a relationship. This is, like, the situationship song of 2024, and I feel like, especially, like, towards the end of the best friends era, like, it very much was, like, this thing of, like, it doesn't really exist anymore other than name, and, like, eventually someone is going to, like, officially blow that up, and there's gonna be hard feelings of bounding because of it, and kind of denying that there ever was, like, a bond, like, when, like, Chuck, like, confronts Trent for his, like, like, shitty behavior towards Orange Cassidy, Chuck basically is, like, like, like, fuck you and never liked you, or, like, you're not, I always thought you were an asshole, and it's like, but that's, like, not true, or maybe you have an asshole, but there's still, like, there's, like, love and affection and care there, and, like, you're talking out of, like, anger and frustration and betrayal. So yeah, that was kind of, that's about to close it like that. Yeah, sorry, casual. I mean, just, it hits too deep. It's a little too hard on the notes that, like, most wrestling doesn't really go down aside from, like, a very soap opera-y way, and I don't, like, there's probably a map on there for, like, a WWE storyline that I'm just not, I don't know. Yeah, we're not talking a lot on Rusev here today, sorry, folks. Or, like, I mean, I know that there was a whole stuff going down with, like, Ria Ripley and, like, a bunch of that, like, stuff with her and Dom and Liv, and, like, I'm sure something on this album maps, right? Oh, I just don't know the story well enough to really feel like I can make that comparison. Right. Track six, super graphic, ultra modern girl. Kay, what this song is about for me, the question that I'm asking, is who is the guy wearing the fugly jeans? Is it MJF? Is it Sammy Guevara? I don't know. I guess it's a good day. Yes, who, who, who on the roster is best known for the fugly jeans? Great glitter podcast at Gima.com. Oh my God, we had a whole episode where we just talk about the fugly jeans of Russia, and accompanied images like we need to see these jeans. For me, I latched on to, I latched on this slightly different lyric on the topic of best friends. She's done a decent job of assimilating into human culture, but I know that deep down in her soul, Chris Thatlander is still an alien. And I'm waiting for the day when she picks up Stokely Hathaway on her back, piggyback style, just like Luke Skywalker and Yoda and stands in front of her spaceship and points at Willow and says, "With even the planet, you can't come." But I miss you more than a woman, Chris. I know, I miss wholesome alien Chris, but I had the exact same thought, Harley. I've also picked Chris Thatlander for very same reasons. And now I just, I'm imagining Stokely writing Chris like our rock, like on her back. That's so good. That's so funny. Perfect image. I have two. So I kept rotating in my head, just like a rotisserie chicken, the edit that was made of Jamie Hader with a progressive ultraman girl, which I think is incredible. I missed her. I'm so glad she's back. Just because I think it's true, like she needs someone who is supergraphic ultramodern like her and wonderful and amazing and beautiful. And I also was picturing Brian Danielson as kind of similar who's up to the challenge of winning the Brian Danielson award, if not again, Brian Danielson. All right, track seven, one of the biggest, smash hits of the nine singles on the album, especially in the TikTok world. Hot to go. This is one of the ones that I was like, maybe Willow for this one just because of the like Poppiness and I could see her coming out to it. But then I also thought maybe the acclaimed. Just based on the line of like, like baby, do you like this beat? I made it so you'd sleep with me. And also the little hot to go dance. I could like throw some scissoring in there, you know. So I was thinking recently of like, you know, how Mariah has been kind of calling out to Mina, like, um, where are you? I want you like, I miss you. Baby, do you like this beat? I made it so you'd dance with me. So, um, very Nina and Mariah to me right now. I thought, okay, this is like a big, like mainstream, I guess, big mainstream hit and has its own little dance. Just like Mercedes Monet. Mmm. Oh, good one. Big mainstream star with her own little dance. Yeah, fair. Yeah, I'm going to give it to Maki Ito. Oh, that's really good. Breaking out of our EEW and just going to like, you know, wrestlers I really enjoy and like seeing, um, I would love to see Maki Ito like translate her like her idol entrance onto Hot Dog. Yes, I love that. Oh, freaking fun. And I've grown it out there, guys. Throw it out there, GCW. Come on. She does a lot of appearances for you guys. Let's talk her into it. I'm sure she knows it. She can do the dance. Track eight. My kink is Karma. This is a perfect wrestling. I mean, we are, we said every single one. Yes, it is. Basically at this point. But this one especially is a perfect wrestling. I already used this as the title of one of our great and good episodes like a couple of months ago because I was like the chorus just piece de resistance. My kink is watching you ruin your life. Come on. Is there a video? Is there a fan vid for this one? Like have we seen them like a wrestling fan vid such to this? Because I feel like it's a gimme. I don't think I've seen one. Yeah. So, uh, let's start with Mony this time. What wrestler is just really getting off and what on rooting the other person's lives besides hangman? No, that's what that's what it is. That's who it is. Wait, did you wait? That's because I picked this, like I picked that. Like I picked that. That was my pickest hangman I swear, but it has to be hangman's work. There's not a better answer. What I really love about this song, I don't know if you all remember when hangman was posting a lot more on his instagram, but he had he had made a reference I think to like, um, you know, CM Punk's kind of descent and had posted that song only with him. And I like love, I cling to that little piece of lore so much. I think it's so hilarious to me. Um, but what I also was thinking about with my kinkus karma, um, I like the reference that Daniel Garcia had made recently, you know, uh, was it ruining your life as my fetish? Um, even though it kind of, it's kind of similar in that like, even though Daniel Garcia is purposefully ruining MJF's life. Um, you know, my kinkus karma is like, I love to see you do that to yourself. Um, and I think it kind of, it still works. Um, and then also like Nigel McGinnis at Brian. Um, the hangman's work stuff gets a little bit funnier when you, when you, when you hear, it's hot when you have a meltdown in the front of your house. Exactly. It's hot when you have a meltdown. I'm in for the fun of your house. Where were we even like, where I knew, sorry, but I'm, I'm drinking downtown in front of the house that I just burned out. Yeah, before you guys had even invited me to do this episode with you, like, I was listening to that song. I'm like, this is about hangman and swerve actually. Also, I really like the CM Punk uh, the connection. Yes, that's so good. Also really, really good. Very astute. The other small possibility I thought of just the, uh, line about like, dying your hair, that could also be Ocada's 2017 meltdown. Oh my god, red hair, Kool-Aid Ocada. All right. Yeah, hangman swerve's the best answer. I, I was limiting my list to women. So I just, I did Yana and Thunder Rosa, just cause they've been feuding for a while, but it's not as good as not as cause as her, the hangman swerve mashup. It just, it, it just maps too well. Track nine picture you, Valerie. Tony Storm? Yes. No, the same person, literally the exact same cause she's big in the pictures. It's a little on the nose. Yeah, and lipstick and, you know, sick dresses. Yeah. Yeah. So this is the one that I had for Mox and Eddie. Oh, okay. Because I was just thinking of, um, I don't know, there's just this idea of like kind of Eddie, um, thinking of Mox, like I thought you were better than like, you know, how was it back in like 2020 when they had their feud? Like you went off to WWE. I thought you were better. I, you know, you turn against me. Um, but like, there's still kind of this wanting there, like this kind of connection that they keep, they keep carrying over so well in all of their feuds. Um, and like, they're loved for each other. Um, but I was, I was really drawn to that for them. Yeah. This is my, this is my golden lover's pick. Um, just like, because I, I think the connections made with other songs are, are really, are really nicely mapped and I think that maybe even like better fitting than this one. Um, because I really like, what was it? What do we say? Fred White and Supernova for, for golden lovers? I thought that was, that's an even more fun version of this, but like this is a little bit more straightforward. I'm just like two people who are like inextricably connected. There's a lot of memories there. There's a lot of estrangement there. Um, there's a lot of like fantasy there of like how each other were being pictured in any given moment in their careers throughout the years. Um, so there's a, like a palpable sense of longing in this, which is so much a part of that storyline. So that was, that was my pick. That's really good. Track 10, kaleidoscope. Okay. Um, I actually want to hear what other people have to say for this one, because this one was really tricky because it could be actually, hold on. Now this is on the spot. Could this be best friends? Do we think? I think we've, I think we've clarified it. Everything is either best friends. I think we feel that. Spiritually. I mean, we're like, I know that I became a really big fan of wrestling in 2018 as a lot of other people did in that like general times fan and like, what more defined, you know, the pro wrestling that I followed than the elite, certainly, but also best friends and a bunch of other reference points. So it stands for reason. There's a, there's a nostalgia factor in this album that is really interesting because it's a nostalgia. It's a very actively played nostalgia, the kind where like you are still kind of in the moment that you're waxing nostalgic about. And that kind of feels like wrestling fandom for a lot of us who got into wrestling only like five or six years ago. Yeah, like I'm nostalgic for wrestling from 2018. It's only 2024. It hasn't been that long. And yet in wrestling years, it feels like two decades worth of time has passed. And that's kind of what a lot of these songs on chapel's album are kind of like, like being in your mid 20s and thinking about your early 20s. I feel that, yeah, as someone who is pushing 40, it's weird to like recognize that while still relating really hard to the songs because it's like, there's a useful mentality to that nostalgia that like, I don't have because I'm pushing 40, but like, I also get where it is. I get what it is. For this one, I went with Willow and I wanted to give her something really big and fun and like full of energy. But maybe maybe I was being too obvious because I think like, I think kaleidoscope, I think colors, I think colors, I think willow. But also reading over the lyrics, like, I've got the genius page up now and I'm reading over the lyrics again to refresh myself. And I'm like, right, the song is about essentially like, we had love or I thought I thought it was love between us. But now, I don't know what it is. And, you know, if you want to leave, then I'll if you really want to leave, I'll never make you stay. If you ever find someone who could write a better song for you, I'd love to see them try. And so Willow kind of wistfully sending this towards Statlander about like, okay, like, if you're going to go then go, but, you know, but you're never going to find anybody as good as me. And it's Willow, so that's true. Val, you got anybody for kaleidoscope? No, I really didn't. Um, just like in the same vein of like, you know, the friend breakups, if you're going to go and just go maybe some, some blackpool combat club in there. But yeah, I'm going to, I'm going to second the best friends. I actually make my kaleidoscope because for whatever reason I was listening to it today, I was listening to it again earlier. And it's one of the songs on the album that I haven't always stopped to listen to. Sometimes I skip past it. I'm not ashamed against the song, but just everyone's while I do. Just like, I don't listen to it as actively as the other ones. But it stuck with me a little bit more this time. And I don't know, it made me think of Rosemary. Like, less about Rosemary and one specific person and more like Rosemary being this like keystone, this like, this key player, this, um, this rock, the rock of TNA's women's division. And how that hasn't changed in so, so long, like people come and people go, stars come and stars go. Um, people like come up through TNA and then they move on to other promotions, etc. But like, Rosemary is there holding it down, always giving compelling performances, always giving compelling storylines, making other people shine in the progress and the process. And yeah, I don't know for whatever reason. I just, I listened to this and I, I was just starting thinking about that, about, you know, like Rosemary is like this, the sticking force, the someone who's like, who's going to write the best song for somebody in any given moment. Yeah, I can see that in the language of Deadpool and Wolverine, Rosemary is kind of the anchor being for the knockouts. There you go. Yeah. And if you think about all the people that she's worked with, all the women that she's worked with, tagged with, worked in the storylines with, um, they all like, she, she is a key part of like that chemistry, the reason that they shine in those stories. I, I, like, I like Tyia Valkyrie more than ever when she is in TNA playing off of Rosemary. Okay, track 11, Pink Pony Club. I had nothing for this one. I couldn't think of anybody. Yeah, this was really hard. Yeah, let's just skip it. Yeah. It sounded, it sounded like great over song, honestly. I mean, it's like, can she, can she even write a bop? I don't, I don't know, I don't know. It's just another hangman page song for me. How is it not? It's, yeah, it's, it's hangman, sorry. Sorry about it. There are no wrong answers here, but anything other than hangman is a wrong answer. I mean, regularly write a horse to the ring and not like, not have us decide that the Pink Pony Club is your song. Like I desperately like crossing my fingers, toes, everything like, hangman, please, please, if you're out there, like when you, when, like, whenever you decide to like, dress in Pink and like come out to the song, like, the floors will part like we need to see this. Yes, 100%. Like, I always wanted for, for a while, I was hooked on this idea of hangman having a big entrance to the Orville Peck cover of Small Town Boy by the Bronzky. Because I was just like, it's perfect, it's perfect melting of all the things. It's a perfect song with the perfect artist for like the perfect storyline and the wrestling gimmick. But now I think I shifted the Pink Pony Club. And then Orville's cover of Pink Pony Club is so good. Have I, oh my god, wait, have I missed that? I didn't know it existed. Oh gosh. Yes. What? Oh, I love that. I gotta go guys. We gotta pass. Oh my god, I'm looking at it as soon as we're done recording. Absolutely. What? All right, let's speed run these last three songs. Track 12, Naked in Manhattan. This one, side note for me, I'm reading the lyrics on Genius and reading the annotations because sometimes they're so cringe, that's funny. This is how I find out Chapel Rowan's Birthdays February 19th. My Birthdays February 20th. So I'm like, ah, maybe that's why I connect with her music in a way that I don't with all these other pop stars. Because we're like, we're both Pisces. Or feeling things deeply. That is true, Pisces. Oh, so deep. Creative but very emotional. I cry every movie every night. I blame my Pisces, because I'm not an Aries, but I'm a Pisces Aries cast because I do believe in cast theory. And I blame my Pisces like leanings for the reason why I don't get to be a full Aries and I'm pissed off about it because I love to be a full Aries. But I'm not. I'm compromised by goddamn Pisces. And the anger is where the Aries comes out. Exactly. But I'm sad about it. I'm really sad about it. And I also get mad at myself for being angry because fucking Pisces. But the song is Naked in Manhattan. I'm dedicating it to Nyla Rose and her various search traps. I love that, actually. For me, I was thinking of Chris and Willow for this one. I think they have such incredible chemistry. Could go to hell, but we'll probably be fine. I think it'd be super fun for them. Val, you got anybody for this one? Nope. I'm seconding the Nyla Rose search trap. Okay. What about you, Em? This is my 20 store. I'm Mariah May pick. Yeah. I mean a little on the nose, but like, I think it's just like, it's fun. It's like, now we're just girls being girls into girls. I'm like, oh, I don't know. We'll get drunk and who knows what will happen? In Manhattan. Track 13, the penultimate track on the album, California. Val is starting with me because I didn't give a serious answer for this one, so I'll give my very silly taking the lyrics literal answer and then everyone can give more thoughtful ones afterwards. I'm going to pick Randy Orton because he's from Missouri. Well, we can do Warhorse. One of those, you know. Warhorse. I love the idea of Warhorse. I'd turn to those songs. They're catar. They're Warhorse. Yeah. I feel like they didn't have a good one for this one. No, me neither. I mean, it's kind of about like going somewhere, regretting it, and then wishing that people would come and rescue, right? Yeah, or just like, or getting sick of being away from home. Like, again, it's that like, it's that funny nostalgia that happens where like, it's not even been that long, but you've been away from home long enough to feel homesick and for like, kind of romanticize all the things about the puzzle piece that you ran away from. And the song is kind of tongue in cheek about it because like, I miss like the seasons in Missouri, my dying town, come get me out of California, no leaves are brown. Like, it's poking fun at the idea that like, you could miss the things that like, made you so tired and want to get away from that place. Yeah, on that note of like the, of like the like, you were saying as well, then nostalgia for like six years ago, I went with Trisha Dora for this one. Because I'm sure that I'm sure if you asked her, she'd probably actually very happy in AEW right now. But I, as a Trisha Dora fan, miss when she was Pan African world basketball wrestling champion for three and a half years, compared to now when she's this year, one in four on ROH, oh and six in AEW. So, you know, I'm like, come get her out. There would be a wrestler who like, gets to wrestle featured matches on big shows and win again. This one was also kind of tough, but I just kept sitting with the idea of like, like being told that if you're going to make it big, you have to go out, you have to do more. And so I kept rotating around Eddie Kingston and that idea of like him, like being in the Indies and like, like putting so much work there and, you know, having kind of been told this idea of like, oh, you, if you want to make it big, like you have to go out there and do all this. So, you have to go to P.W.G. in California. That's very true. So, yeah. All right. And that takes us to our last song on the album. Guilty Pleasure, The Final Track. You know, isn't wrestling just a guilty pleasure? No, I'm going to pick, I didn't really have an answer for this, but I think just going with the guilty pleasure idea, I'm going to say Cody Rhodes, because I love my big, stupid American nightmare, and I will always love him. I'm never going to stop loving him, even though he is the way he is. This is one of the, not like explicit, but one of the more sexual songs on the album as well, obviously. So, on that note, I said Queen Aminat, I know for the questions, Moni. Let's go back. No comment. I mean, Moni. This one, I was also thinking Hangman and Swerve. I think there's really a lot of fun with like, so shame on me and shame on you. I fantasize what we would do and how would it taste. I want this like a cigarette, like it's bad for you, but it's also like so good. So, I think it'd be really fun, because I don't know, they're, again, very bad for each other, but they're kind of living for it. Like, this is also like Hangman's driving force of like, getting what he wants and Swerve sadistically kind of getting this out of him, and they're bad for each other, but they're good for each other. All right, and wrap it up. Okay, so my pick is Jay White. You want to breathe with the switch point? Okay, so like, I don't really have a thing for Jay White, but I know a fair amount of people who do, but there are moments with Jay White where it's like, okay, and I can't speak for him now, but like, I'm going back. I'm going to do the like, recent nostalgia thing and talk about 2019. And there are moments with Jay White where like, it's like suddenly like a curtain opening and me being like, oh, oh, that's what people are saying. Like, not like that he's a talented wrestler or fun or good of what he does, like, obviously, but like attraction wise, where it's like, oh, I get it. And I joke that Wrestle Kingdom 2019, when Jay White entered in a white leather suit, that was the exact moment that I got my period. And so ever since then, occasionally, I think I think about Jay White in like the those heads of like, oh, yeah, there's something like like visceral there occasionally, but it would be only the most like guilty guilty of pleasures as far as an attraction goes. I think that answer wins. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. The knife curve is my king switch. Come on. You know what I was doing. That does it. We made it through the entire album. Congratulations. Pray. Pray. Thank you so much to our guests for joining us. Thank you for listening, dear listeners, as always, if you have your own picks for these categories that you think are even better than the ones I don't know how, but if you somehow think you have even better answers than us, great glitter podcast at gmo.com. You can find us on Twitter or Instagram at grit glitter pod. You can support us on patreon. You get bonus episodes of other podcasts. You get newsletters, all sorts of shenanigans over there. Val, Kano, where can people? Daryl Apparel on TikTok, Instagram, all the socials, and also very quickly wanted to plug that there's an updated version of the tarot super card that a flight flighty buttlets just kind of took over. We started doing it together and then I said, I'm very overwhelmed and busy and then flighty did a beautiful job with it. The cards are like, they like have gold in them now, they're very shiny and beautiful. So anyway, check that project out. It's a charity project again. Yeah, lots of tiles to artists involved in designing those cards. I have seen a couple of the new deck, a bit of the new deck that flighty has shared on socials and it is so good. I love my first one and I can't wait to get the second one. And Moni, where can people see your terrific artwork? So I'm on Twitter at Venus Leo_ and I'm also on Tumblr at WrestleDreams. So that's mostly where you can find my stuff. And then I also have information in terms of like, do you want to buy art or commissions that's also in my Twitter? And also I just got my tarot super card order today and I absolutely agree with Valerie and Emily, like they're beautiful. So I absolutely recommend people getting it. It's an incredible project. Hey, thanks for supporting us at them on social media. If you want to know which wrestler they think is good luck babe, it's the only way you're going to find out. I need to know. And join us again next week right here. We do this podcast every week. Next week on the show, it is TNA wrestlers as Mitzki songs. Masha Samevic, such a townie.
