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OpenAI’s Head of ChatGPT: We’re entering a new era of AI (again) | Tibo Sottiaux
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often when I look at what people are building under, just like, you're not quite getting it. You know, if you were just like pushing yourself and you're just really imagining like all of these being roughly 10 times better than it is today, you know, like in a year, but you would build in a different way. - What do you think people aren't pricing in in terms of where things are going? - The majority of actions on the internet will be taken by agents. If you want your product to be successful for agents, you have to build, you know, for a certain level of scale. - I'm the agents you find yourself running in parallel, just in the kind of your day-to-day work. - As I'm pushing different here, I find myself like building larger and larger teams of agents and then when we have the next breakthrough with models, like, suddenly it's just a kind of like, oh, well, you know, a bigger agent can just do all of it. And so I kind of shrink the team again. And then it just kind of goes through this expansion and shrinking expansion. - It kind of makes me think about it. There's this whole loop thing and then this little graph thing. - Having to set up and fiddle with your loops is something that maybe people got excited about, but I don't think this is the way that it's going to work. Over time, you just want this system that learns. You don't want to necessarily think about, oh, I was just thinking I'm going to loop it exactly this way in order to get results. - Do you think there's still more radical change happening to how we work? - It's going to continue to change, quite radically. Even today, it still feels like a bit clunky and I think it will feel clunky until it isn't. - Depot, thank you for doing this. - Yeah. - Like for me, of course. - Nice room. - You launched a ton of stuff today. How are you sleeping? How are you sleeping? Are you doing all right? - I'm doing great. - I'm fortunate to have a very good team. So while I sleep, they were awake most of the night. We have this amazing room at the office called the library,
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