The Dylan Gemelli Podcast - BONUS #169: What 11 Years in Prison Taught Us About God And Money: Behind the scenes conversation with Kevin Trudeau

Duration: 46m
Broadcast on: 03 Oct 2026
Audio Format: other

There are some things powerful systems would rather you never question and THIS behind-the-scenes conversation gets into exactly WHY.

This is not a traditional interview. It’s a conversation between two men who have both made serious money, lost years of their lives to prison, rebuilt themselves, and learned some of their hardest lessons through experience.

Dylan and Kevin get into money, prison, success, medicine, mindset, credibility, failure, faith and the uncomfortable truths most people would rather avoid.

Because money is not about chasing shortcuts.

Success is shaped by your environment more than motivation.

Failure gets worse when you keep making excuses.

Credentials mean less than real-world performance.

Prison can either break you or force you to take accountability.

Medicine should make you question incentives and authority.

Mindset is shaped by the way you speak to yourself.

Wealth means very little if chasing it makes you miserable.

And because one of self-help’s biggest promises “you can have anything you want”, might be complete bullshit.

Kevin Trudeau is a bestselling author, entrepreneur and personal-development figure best known for books including Natural Cures “They” Don’t Want You to Know About. His career has included massive commercial success, major controversy and years spent in federal prison. Today, he speaks about success, wealth, mindset and the lessons he says came from decades of experience at both extremes.

Chapters:

(00:00) They Don’t Want You to Know

(01:58) The Biggest Lies About Making Money

(03:15) Building Billions Before Teaching Success

(04:29) The Wealth Frequency

(06:38) Your Environment Controls Your Income

(10:01) Stop Making Excuses

(12:17) The Mindset Difference Between Winners and Losers

(15:08) Your Mind Is Stronger Than Your Body

(17:27) Prison

(24:18) Every Saint Has a Past, Every Sinner a Future

(24:23) The Lost Art of Accountability

(28:49) Credentials vs Real-World Experience

(34:19) Why Angry Experts Should Make You Suspicious

(35:29) What Doctors Aren’t Taught

(40:17) Are People Being Scammed by the Medical System?

(40:56) The Biggest Lie About Success

(43:11) Seek First the Kingdom

(43:42) You CAN'T Have It All

(45:23) Dream Big Without Becoming Delusional

(46:32) The Real Keys to Success

Check Out Kevin's YouTube Channel for More: https://www.youtube.com/@KevinTrudeauOfficial/featured

Visit www.kevintrudeau.com/ for all Kevin's Products and Offerings

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I got a 15-year prison sentence. Let's just say I got caught with a plethora of cocaine. Every saint has a past and every sinner a future. That was the most miserable I've ever been and I made a lot of money doing it. My good qualities were used in a bad way. People always asked me how did you overcame prison. I said I didn't overcome shit. I caused it. Knowledge is power but only if it's remembered because if it's not remember it can't be used. You're a Christian and a spiritual person and there's a scripture that says seek first the kingdom and everything else will be added on. People like us hurt feelings because we say what you need to hear and not what you want to hear. Your body will tell you I'm tired. Your body will tell you I can't go anymore. Don't listen to your body. You tell your body what to do. What some of the biggest lies do you think about that people are being taught about making money. Where do I start? Money, you're rich, I'm rich. Health, you're stupidly healthy. You're like 20 years old but I'm really old. I'm 92 and I'm really healthy and we're both really happy. We live amazing lives but why should anybody listen to us when it comes to making money or being healthy or being happy? What credentials do we have? I'd say life credentials. I don't need 900 letters after my name of learning a bunch of garbage that doesn't relate to anything that we do back and forth. I want to talk to people that have lived it. You've lived it more than me but we've both been in those trenches. We've both been around people, seen it all done at all. I don't care about studies that are filtered and they're coaxed into being whatever they want it to be. I care about going through and seeing what people are going through and living it, getting real feedback, being around it, experiencing it. I don't need somebody to tell me some facade that they create. I mean if you're not living it and you're not a part of it, what are you doing? What are you doing? I don't see the point in any of it. I'm certainly not gonna listen to somebody telling me what to do that's never done anything that's pulling it off of a textbook or what they're told because a lot of the people, they're being told by somebody else, that's being told by somebody else that's never done anything. So I don't care about any of that. When it comes to making money when we were talking earlier, there's a lot of lies out there. Oh. Okay. What some of the biggest lies do you think about the people are being taught about making money? Oh, where do I start? Everybody's got some sort of shortcut that leads to a longer road or somebody's got an excuse as to whether or not making money, right? Everybody's got the next get rich quick scam. Do this, take this shortcut. I mean, you've been around it now long enough and I've been doing sales since I was born basically that was born into it. So I've seen and been around everything. I mean now everybody thinks like with a peptide for example, something comes out we're gonna explode and everybody's gonna get rich doesn't even know what it is. You know, and it's basically people that try to come into an industry, never been involved in it, don't know what they're doing, take advantage. What are you saying? Well, yeah, you know, there's one thing that people don't talk about. I mean, look, there's a lot of guys on the internet, a lot of guys doing seminars, a lot of guys teaching courses and they're making a fortune. Teaching courses and writing books or doing seminars on how to make money and how to get rich. No one really made any money before they started teaching courses. I mean, I did $20 billion in business before I ever give a lecture on anything, right? I was always the guy, you know, behind the scenes. I never taught success. I just became ridiculously successful by applying some principles. But there's one thing and this is why people out there know about success, but they really don't know it. They don't even know what they're really doing to succeed. They don't even know. But here's what it is. The brain is both a receiver and transmitter of frequency. Now, we know that, right? That's okay. You get all the frequency, you get gamma, you get beta, you get alpha, theta and delta. So the brain vibrates or broadcast frequencies and it's picked up by other brains. Science knows that. So if I'm putting out a frequency, it's picked up by your brain. If you're putting out a frequency, which we both are, so we're both transmitting and receiving frequency. And if two people are together and they're on completely different frequencies,

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