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Duration
1h 2m
Broadcast on
10 Aug 2025
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My Guest: Ed Latimore is a professional heavyweight boxer, best-selling author, and veteran of the U.S. Army National Guard. He earned a degree in Physics from Duquesne University. Ed has gained recognition for overcoming personal struggles with addiction and poverty. We recorded this at our 2025 Learning Leader Growth Summit in Scottsdale, Arizona. He's the author of Hard Lessons From The Hurt Business.

Notes:

  • Key Learnings
      • The Heaviest Weight at the Gym is the Front Door – Starting is often the hardest part. "Zero to one is the hardest part" in any endeavor. Once you begin, momentum builds, but that first step requires the most effort.
      • How You Feel is Irrelevant – "How you feel about doing something is irrelevant. If it is vital to your success, you've gotta bump to the wall a bunch of times." Discipline isn't about motivation—it's about doing what's necessary regardless of feelings.
      • Sobriety: The Hardest Fight – 13+ years sober, describing it as "the hardest fight I've ever had." The turning point came during basic training when he built an identity completely free of alcohol for the first time in his adult life.
      • From Being Liked to Being Respected – "When people like you, they want to party with you... When people respect you, you start getting invited back to family events." Shifted focus from seeking approval through partying to earning respect through character.
      • The Baby Shower Revelation – Breakthrough moment when friends showed up with gifts for his unborn child, "all because he is my human." Realized people genuinely cared about him, which became the foundation for believing he mattered.
      • Taking Ownership vs. Playing Victim – "A judge and a jury do not care about my terrible upbringing if I commit a crime." Despite growing up next to a crack house with family addiction issues, I chose accountability over excuses.
      • Net Positive Impact Philosophy – Goal with raising children: "Make sure they are a net positive, they make things better. At the very least, let's make sure they don't mess anything up." Everyone has an impact on the world for better or worse.
      • Practice Until You Can't Forget – Boxing taught the overlearning principle: going beyond basic competency to automatic response. "We practice until we can't forget... Either you get it or you'll make a mistake, and you probably won't make the mistake more than twice."
      • Tolerance for Boredom Builds Excellence – "If you can be bored, you can go really far because a lot of it is just repetition of really basic things." Elite performers master fundamentals through unglamorous repetition.
      • Body Language Shapes Internal State – "You smile, you feel happy... puff up your chest and the testosterone flows." Physical presentation affects how you feel internally and influences others around you.
      • Fear vs. Responsibility Evolution – Early motivation came from fear of embarrassment; current motivation comes from a sense of responsibility to others. Shift from avoiding personal failure to ensuring others are taken care of.
      • Redefining "At Your Best" – Past definition: having enough money, time, and no worries. Current definition: "Everyone in the house is taken care of." Evolution from internal satisfaction to external impact.
      • Strategic Hardship Introduction – For teaching children without trauma: "Introduce hardships strategically and with awareness." Like weight training—incremental challenges build strength; too much too soon causes injury.
  • Useful Quotes:
    • "How you feel about doing something is irrelevant. If it is vital to your success, you've gotta bump to the wall a bunch of times."
    • "The heaviest weight at the gym is the front door."
    • "When people like you, they want to party with you... When people respect you, you start getting invited back to family events."
    • "You have an impact on the world, for better or worse, that makes a huge difference in allowing a person to not destroy themselves."
    • "We practice until we can't forget."
    • "If you can be bored, you can go really far."
    • "I've had my ego dragged through the mud a lot."
    • "What do you want your obituary to say? I didn't just dabble."
    • "When you're completely selfless, then you're fearless. It's the 'what's gonna happen to me' that creates the fear."
    • "Everyone's always either walking in love or fear."
    • "I hope my kid remembers that I was a present happy dude."
  • Life Lessons:
      • Discipline Over Mood – Make decisions based on necessity, not feelings. Success comes from identifying what must be done and executing consistently.
      • Identity Building Without Vices – Spend time in environments completely free from your struggles to build new neural pathways and self-concept.
      • Overlearning for Mastery – Practice skills beyond basic competency until they become automatic responses under pressure.
      • Authentic Accountability – Find mentors who "live what they're yelling at you about." Real influence comes from demonstrated behavior, not just words.
      • Incremental Challenge Builds Resilience – Introduce difficulties gradually to build strength rather than overwhelming with too much too soon.
      • Present Moment Parenting – Model calm behavior during stressful situations because children mirror your emotional energy.
      • External Focus Creates Fulfillment – Shift from personal satisfaction to ensuring others are taken care of for a deeper sense of purpose.
      • Childhood Dreams Reveal True Interests – "What did you want to do when you were 10-12?" Often reveals authentic passions before social conditioning.
      • Breaking Generational Cycles – Consciously choose different patterns than your upbringing to create better outcomes for the next generation.
      • Humility Through Struggle – Getting "ego dragged through the mud" builds character and perspective that success alone cannot provide.
      • Luck Recognition Builds Gratitude – "The only difference between you and me is that I was lucky." Understanding the role of circumstances builds empathy.
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This episode is brought to you by my friends at Insight Global. Insight Global is a staffing and professional services company dedicated to being the light to the world around them. If you need to hire one person, hire a team of people, or transform your business through talent or technical services, Insight Global's team of 30,000 people around the world have the hustle and grit to deliver. Hiring can be tough, but hiring the right person can be magic. Visit insightglobal.com/learningleader today to learn more. That's insightglobal.com/learningleader. Welcome to the Learning Leaders Show! I am your host, Ryan Hawk. Thank you so much for being here. Go to learningleader.com for show notes of this and all podcast episodes. Go to learningleader.com now on to tonight's featured leader Ed Latimore is a professional heavyweight boxer. Best-selling author and a veteran of the United States Army National Guard. He earned a degree in physics from Duquesne University and has gained recognition for overcoming personal struggles with addiction and poverty. We recorded this at our 2025 Learning Leader Gross Summit in Scottsdale, Arizona. This was a private event for members of my Learning Leader Circle. If you would like to be part of my next Learning Leader Circle, go to learningleadercircle.com. Some of the topics we covered, how and why you should work to beef up your obituary. Love that term. Why you shouldn't just dabble and the importance of building a disciplined routine. We talk about that and so much more, ladies and gentlemen, please enjoy my conversation with Ed Latimore. You have lived and lived multiple lives, right? And this idea of a boxer, a physics guy, you're into chess, all this different stuff. And you got whole other parts of your story that we're going to get to. I'm just curious, if your younger self looked at your current self, what would surprise them the most? You know, not only that, I just, I don't know man, I'm fortunate. But I think the thing that would surprise my younger self the most is the stumbling blocks along the way, particularly the stuff around addiction and alcohol, because I grew up next to a crack house. My mom had her alcohol issues, everyone in my family had their substance abuse issues to different degrees. Some got involved in the selling side of it, the using side of it, all day. So I had this like healthy fear of a lot of this stuff. So that's why I never tried anything harder. But the alcohol stuff, that really would surprise younger me because I know how I am thinking about it now and how I looked at it. And I went through that phase in my life, it was like, wow. But on a more positive note, I think the thing that would surprise younger me is how much fun I have being a dad. I didn't know that that was a really fun thing, man. Because my dad wasn't really around, so I didn't really have any model for that or anything to expect from that. But boy, it's exhausting. And there are these fun moments of frustration, that's the best way to describe it, but it's a really good time. Those are the two big things that I think would surprise me, which is what I'm saying, that has nothing to do with any of that. You mentioned your sobriety and we've talked before and you said that that's the hardest fight you've ever had. What finally made it stick, what finally helped you get past that. I mean, I assume it's still everything. Oh no, you still still have a fight, 13 years? I'm starting to lose track and that's good. That's good, yeah. What made it so difficult? You ever hear that quote from Anna Karenina about Leah Toy Story, he's like, "All happy families are happy for the same reason. All unhappy families are unhappy for different reasons." Wait, you're not smart enough.

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