The Learning Leader Show With Ryan Hawk
592: Ed Batista - How To Give Useful Feedback, What Great Leaders Do, and Why We All Need An Executive Coach
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Notes:
- Commonalities of excellent coaches:
- Not defensive
- Respond well to feedback
- Ability to learn
- "Leadership can't be taught but it can be learned."
- Coaching is not therapy, but it can be therapy-adjacent.
- It's not telling people what to do and it's not just asking questions. It's a combination of all of them.
- There is ample research on the benefits of writing. It clarifies your thinking.
- The questions to ask someone who might need an executive coach:
- Why do you want a coach?
- Why now?
- What do you hope to get out of it?
- What do great leaders do?
- First, do no harm.
- Walk the talk.
- Be an embodiment of the culture.
- Have high standards
- Take risks
- Coach people up
- Train people
- "Coaching is accomplishment through others."
- "Feedback is not a gift."
- Feedback is data. Signal and noise.
- Signal - Important and good.
- Noise - Byproduct of someone's distorted lens.
- Feedback is data. Signal and noise.
- "Praise, Criticism, Praise (PCP) is terrible." Don't give the compliment sandwich. It's disingenuous.
- How leaders best overcome adversity – The most critical skill is "adaptive capacity..." It's composed of two primary qualities: the ability to grasp context, and hardiness.
- Coaching - Asking evocative questions, ensuring the other person feels heard, and actively conveying empathy remain the foundations of coaching.
- Connect: Establish and renew the interpersonal connection, followed by an open-ended question.
- Reflect: Having elicited a response, reflect back the essence of the other person's comments.
- Direct: Focus their attention on a particular aspect of their response that invites further exploration.
- Support and Challenge - A client once said, "It feels like you're always in my corner, but you never hesitate to challenge me."
- Master the Playbook, Throw it Away - Coaching involves a continuous and cyclical process of learning, unlearning, and relearning.
- Power Dynamics - The longer I coach, the more I appreciate and value the work of Jeff Pfeffer, a leading scholar on power. philosopher Ernest Becker: "If you are wrong about power, you don't get a chance to be right about anything else."
- "Meaningful coaching is always an emotionally intimate experience, no matter what's being discussed. In part this is a function of the context: two people talking directly to each other with no distractions... Intimacy in a coaching relationship also results from a willingness to 'make the private public'--to share with another person the thoughts and feelings that we usually keep to ourselves... And yet an essential factor that makes such intimacy possible is a clear set of boundaries defining the relationship, which creates an inevitable and necessary sense of distance..."
Great leaders train people to become leaders. I mean, ultimately leadership is about accomplishment through others. One of the most prolific executive coaches in the world. Given all of the amazing leaders you've worked with, over 8,000 coaching sessions, I am so curious to learn about sustainable excellence. The first thing that comes to mind, I would say, is non-defensiveness in response to critical feedback. Would you be cool to, like, take me inside a coaching session? Coaching is definitely not telling people what to do, but it's also not just asking questions. Leadership can't be taught, but it can be fun. Welcome to The Learning Leaders Show, presented by Insight Global. I am your host, Ryan Hawk. Thank you so much for being here. Text Hawk 266866 to become part of Mindful Monday. You, along with tens of thousands of other learning leaders from all over the world, will receive a carefully curated email from me each Monday morning to help you start your week off, right? You'll also receive details about how our new book, The Score, That Matters, will help you become a more effective leader. Text Hawk 266866 now on to tonight's featured leader. Ed Batista is an executive coach and instructor at the Stanford Graduate School of Business. He launched his coaching practice in 2006 after a 15-year career in management, during which he earned his MBA from Stanford. Ed has also been writing on coaching and related topics at edbatista.com since 2005 and has been a contributor to HBR since 2013. He is also a co-author of HBR Guide to Coaching Employees. During our conversation, we discuss the most optimal way to give and receive feedback. And he shares the behaviors of the most excellent leaders he's worked with, talked about why most of us would benefit from having a coach. Then he shared what a great executive coach actually does, and then we did a mini coaching session where Ed coached me right in the middle of this conversation. I think you'll find it interesting. Ladies and gentlemen, please enjoy my conversation with Ed Batista. [MUSIC PLAYING] All right, Ed, it's so good to get a chance to talk to you because I've read so much of what you've written. Welcome to The Learning Leaders Show. Thank you very much, right?
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