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The Learning Leader Show With Ryan Hawk

559: Marshall Goldsmith - The Power of Executive Coaching, How To Give & Receive Feedback, & Attributes of The Best Leaders (What Got You Here Won't Get You There)

Duration
48m
Broadcast on
17 Dec 2023
Audio Format
other

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Notes from my conversation with Marshall Goldsmith:

  • Attributes of the best leaders he's worked with:
    • They are courageous, they have humility, and they are disciplined.
  • Do we all need a coach?
    • "I don't know, but if we're honest with ourselves, we all need help. And a coach can be someone to help…"
  • Happiness and achievement are independent variables.
    • I felt we kept going around in circles because I'm a prescriptive thinker and like actionable takeaways. And I feel like Marshall was helping me understand it's more of a mindset.
  • With a PhD from UCLA, Marshall is a pioneer of 360-degree feedback as a leadership development tool. His early efforts in providing feedback and then following-up with executives to measure changes in behavior were precursors to what eventually evolved as the field of executive coaching.
  • "Fate is the hand of cards we've been dealt. The choice is how we play the hand."
  • "Getting mad at people for being who they are makes as much sense as getting mad at a chair for being a chair."
  • "Successful people become great leaders when they learn to shift the focus from themselves to others."
  • "People who believe they can succeed see opportunities where others see threats."
  • "If we do not create and control our environment, our environment creates and controls us."
  • "A leader who cannot shoulder the blame is not someone we will follow blindly into battle. We instinctively question that individual's character, dependability, and loyalty to us. And so we hold back on our loyalty to him or her."
  • "Peter Drucker, who said, "Our mission in life should be to make a positive difference, not to prove how smart or right we are."
  • "People will do something—including changing their behavior—only if it can be demonstrated that doing so is in their own best interests as defined by their own values."
[MUSIC PLAYING] Welcome to the Learning Leaders Show presented by Insight Global IM, your host, Ryan Hawk. Thank you so much for being here. Text Hawk 266866 to become part of "Einful Monday." You, along with tens of thousands of other learning leaders from all over the world, will receive a carefully curated email from me each Monday morning to help you start your week off right. You'll also receive details about how my book, "The Pursuit of Excellence," will help you become a more effective leader text, Hawk 266866. Now, on to tonight's featured leader, he's back the great Dr. Marshall Goldsmith has been recognized as the top-rated executive coach at the thinkers' 50 ceremony in London since 2011. He's also the author of the "New York Times" bestseller, "What Got You Here Won't Get You There," which was also the winner of the Harold Longman Award as the best business book of the year. During this conversation, we discuss the makeup of an excellent coach, how we can become more coachable as leaders, why we all need a coach, and what to look for when hiring a coach. This one was so much fun as Marshall. You can tell, says exactly what he thinks at all times, and that makes for both a challenging and yet fun and rewarding conversation. Ladies and gentlemen, please enjoy Dr. Marshall Goldsmith. Marshall, it's great to have you here on the Learning Leader Show. Welcome. Thank you so much for inviting me. I'm curious when you think about coaching. What is the makeup of an excellent coach? Well, to me, the makeup of an excellent coach, the key variable is one that very few people talk about. That is the acceptance of the fact that the most important factor of coaching is not the coach. The most important factor of coaching is the person being coach. And a lot of coaching implies that if the coach is good, you will improve. Well, the reality is not necessarily. The coach can be the best coach in the world. If you're not a good client, you're not getting better. So the key is, I think, for success in coaches, let go of your own ego and quit believing that somehow people are going to get better because of you, because the reality is that coach is not your life. It's their life. And the success or failure really is more about them than it is you.

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