The Learning Leader Show With Ryan Hawk - 538: Dr. Julie Gurner - Setting High Standards, Being Relentlessly Resourceful, Achieving Huge Results (Compared to Wendy Rhoades of "Billions")

Duration: 56m
Broadcast on: 30 Jul 2023
Audio Format: other

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Dr. Julie Gurner is a doctor of psychology and is a nationally recognized executive performance coach for individual and corporate clients primarily in finance and technology. Trusted by top percentile talent and their teams to help them achieve world-class performance in fast-paced, high-pressure, extremely competitive environments. She's been compared to Wendy Rhoades of "Billions" in The Wall Street Journal (2019), and named a "Game Changer" by IBM.

Notes:

High Standards: Holding a high bar is uncomfortable because it is "exclusionary," and most people want to make everyone around them happy & comfortable. If you hold a standard, it can't include everything... Figuring out your line & holding to it, will mean some tough conversations.
"I think that there are two ways of looking at things that have happened to you. You can be a victim or you can be a survivor. Those are two very different cognitive positions."
Balance: "People will tell you in books that you have to live a "balanced life," but if we are completely honest, almost all great things are born from periods of imbalance."
Staying Small: A concept I believe, is that most people stay small, or don't go for what they truly want...because they believe that "imaginary rules" are true
Be a Learner: The worst professionals, are the ones that stop learning the moment they graduate from school. And they are the majority. Being autodidactic - a self-learner - who also takes initiative, will have you in the top 10% of anything you take on.
Goals: If your goals are "realistic," you are operating in a box. Check yourself. "If you want to be a game changer, you can't blend in."
Know Yourself: When people are unable to commit to anything, it's because they don't know who they are. Shiny objects professionally (or personally) reflect a lack of certainty.
When you get a genuine shot in the arm from what you do...of course, it's going to be hard to stop doing it. You're on fire. So many people are living their lives with the volume turned down. They don't get it. You don't have to live that way. Crank that energy up.
"The people who rise aren't always the most talented or capable, but they are fueled by self-belief. Once you understand that, much of the business world makes sense."
The difference between persistence and tenacious… persistent people stick to the plan to get to the goal. Tenacious people may change their plans altogether.
A trait in the people who go on to do great things? Paul Graham defines it as being "relentlessly resourceful." I see it all the time. Here's a practical zero-to-one process to be relentlessly resourceful, if you want to set yourself up for some big swings.
Julie goes on a daily walk around her farm. She uses that walk to reflect, think, and be outside. It helps her synthesize information.
What makes a great executive coach?
- A sweet spot between talking and listening... A great executive coach gives their clients space to talk. They listen. They ask great follow-up questions. They help unlock people. They help them become multipliers.
How to deal with imposter syndrome?
- "You probably have the ability, but you're not understanding your own story." It's important to keep taking chances. To keep meeting the moment. Julie helps her clients tap in to and write their own stories.

It's not just about the learning, but the fact that people who can adapt win the day over and over again. And you can't adapt if you aren't at cusp of what you do. You're not in the position to adapt because you're still 10 years behind. Welcome to The Learning Leaders Show presented by Insight Global. I am your host, Ryan Hawk. Thank you so much for being here, text Hawk to 66866 to become part of Mindful Monday. You, along with tens of thousands of other learning leaders from all over the world, will receive a carefully curated email from me each Monday morning to help you start your week off. Right? You'll also receive details about how my book, The Pursuit of Excellence, will help you become a more effective leader, text Hawk to 66866. Now, on to tonight's feature leader, the great Dr. Julie Garner. She's an executive performance coach. She's a doctor of psychology. She's been compared to Wendy Rhodes of the hit TV show Billions by the Wall Street Journal. She is the author of the sub-stack newsletter called Ultra Successful. She's a fascinating person to speak with during this conversation we discuss the makeup of an excellent executive coach and why it would benefit you to have for. Then the one commonality she's found among all of the world's most effective leaders that she's worked with. And then Julie talks about how you are probably thinking too small and how you can think bigger and accomplish more, ladies and gentlemen, this one is so good, you're going to love it. It's Dr. Julie Garner. Dr. Julie Garner, it is great to have you here on The Learning Leaders Show. Welcome. Thank you so much for having me. It's great to see you. I saw that you recently posted a picture and in this picture, there were a couple horses. There were a stable and you wrote that it's nice to have a daily walk around the property to do some thinking and that you hope that everybody can find something to work for, strive toward and one day call their own. Can you talk to me about the importance of that daily walk around and that time for you to think and reflect? Sure. I think that it's funny that you mentioned the farm. I recently bought a farm in 2022 and I grew up on a farm. So the interesting thing about that to me and I'll tell you how the walk kind of plays into this is that I grew up on a farm. The farm was far different. It was a very small, self-sustaining farm. I didn't grow up with much money. It's very different farm that I have today, which is much more extensive than a state like and I hope to build into a future Martha Stewart type property. So for me, taking a stroll around the farm is really about a number of things for me personally as well as the work that I do. So I find that a walk every day, I take it at some point, whether it's around the property or on a trail somewhere is really how I piece together my thoughts around client work, where I'm at, my own business. I don't bring, usually I don't bring a phone, I did that day, but usually I leave everything at home so that it's a place I can synthesize information, really think about my own journey. Sometimes you look around and you say, oh my God, how far I've come and how much I've been able to accomplish in not really having a lot of advantage and kind of coming from a place where people would not anticipate you would reach where you're at today. And I use the time outside to both kind of be pretty invigorating, but also constructive where you're putting together for me. I do a lot of theory putting together a lot of structure around my meetings. I don't just sit with people and spontaneously come up with what we're doing that day. I have a plan in place from day one where I'm helping people get to where they want to go and that requires both thoughtful deliberation on that strategy and process. But also thinking deeply about who they are and what's the best path forward in for them. So that's kind of what I use that time for. It's a lot of construction for others, a lot of self reflection and kind of putting all of these things together to come up with my best work and my best process forward. Are you always alone or do you ever go with others? I always alone when I do that type of work, but sometimes like after dinner, I'll go for a walk with my spouse and it's a very different phenomena where we're just kind of talking about our days and other things. But the walk that I go on alone is often midday. It's by myself. Sometimes I bring a phone, but I rarely do and it's just about my own thought process and putting things together. When working with clients, is this something you regularly would prescribe to them, go out on walks in nature, get outside, spend time reflecting in silence without technology?

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