The MeidasTouch Podcast - Furious Zelenskyy Calls Trump’s Bluff Right Into His Face

MeidasTouch host Ben Meiselas reports on President Zelenskyy calling Trump’s bluff directly into Trump’s face with complete strength and zero fear as Trump and Putin show their true cards. Visit https://meidasplus.com for more! Remember to subscribe to ALL the MeidasTouch Network Podcasts: MeidasTouch: ⁠https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/meidastouch-podcast⁠ Legal AF: ⁠https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/legal-af⁠ MissTrial: ⁠https://meidasnews.com/tag/miss-trial⁠ The PoliticsGirl Podcast: ⁠https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-politicsgirl-podcast⁠ Cult Conversations: The Influence Continuum with Dr. Steve Hassan: ⁠https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-influence-continuum-with-dr-steven-hassan⁠ Mea Culpa with Michael Cohen: ⁠https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/mea-culpa-with-michael-cohen⁠ The Weekend Show: ⁠https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-weekend-show⁠ Burn the Boats: ⁠https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/burn-the-boats⁠ Majority 54: ⁠https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/majority-54⁠ Political Beatdown: ⁠https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/political-beatdown⁠ On Democracy with FP Wellman: ⁠https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/on-democracy-with-fpwellman⁠ Uncovered: ⁠https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/maga-uncovered⁠

Duration: 12m
Broadcast on: 27 Dec 2025
Audio Format: other

President Zelinsky of Ukraine just checkmated Donald Trump ahead of their meeting on Sunday in Miami. Zelinsky came up with a 20 point peace proposal that really smokes out Donald Trump and Putin's true agenda here. So Zelinsky said, all right, Donald, all right, Putin, you want me to give up portions of Eastern Ukraine? I'll do it. I'll give up portions of Eastern Ukraine, but here's how it's got to go down. We'll do it if the following terms are met. Number one, there's got to be a 60 day ceasefire. So Russia has to agree 60 days of peace as a way of good faith and as a way of preparing for a referendum. And let's take a vote in those Eastern Ukraine areas. You want us to give up Donbass? You want us to give up these areas? Why don't we let the people vote? But it's got to be a free and fair election. We'll work with our European allies. And if you want to have the United States be involved, this has to be the open and transparent with all partners involved to make sure that this election is actually a genuine one. And then we'll let the people decide of Eastern Ukraine. If they want to be part of Ukraine, or if they want to be part of Russia, but the parties need to agree wherever the people vote, we will ultimately respect that. And then ultimately, if they decide one way or another, regardless, then the US has to come in with very strong security guarantees that are a lot like Article 5 of NATO or Article 4, Article 5 of NATO, so that if Russia does any extra steps after we do this, then there will automatically trigger this protection as though we were a member of NATO. And you will have to you and Europe agree to protect Ukraine. And that means that if Russia attacks its viewed as an attack on everybody. So put up or shut up. It's a brilliant strategy because why wouldn't you agree to that unless you have bad faith intentions? You see, it allows Zelinsky in Europe. And you know, Zelinsky's been working with Friedrich Merritts of Germany, and the president of France, Emmanuel Macron, and others, and van der Leyen, the European Council President and Commissioner President. And they've been working very closely to come up with this plan. And it's a good way to show that Russia is not interested in peace at all, that Russia just wants Russia will never agree to a ceasefire. Zelinsky's always agreed to a ceasefire, not the other way around Russia's the invading party. So it's a perfect way to expose what's going down. Let me show you how this has been described, because I think this is absolutely a brilliant strategy. This is written by Michael Weiss, who covers this incredibly, he goes. Zelinsky has turned the painful question of territorial concessions into a joint challenge for Trump and Putin. And he has deferred responsibility for whatever happens to the Ukrainian people, the better to keep his legacy from being tarnished by a forfeiture of national sovereignty. Trump would have to guarantee the security of holding a national referendum. And it's unclear whether Ukrainians in the occupied territories would get a vote or how they might vote under foreign coercion. Putin would have to accept a 60 day ceasefire twice as long as the one offered by the US and Ukraine in May, which Putin rejected comparing a referendum on giving up donuts to Brexit is cheeky. 75% of Ukrainians rejected this proposal as of December 15th, according to the key international Institute of sociology. And so to change their minds, the US would have to really incentivize them. In short, Zelinsky is calling America and Russia's bluff and doing it with a handshake and a smile and invitation for Trump to come to keep going between the lines right here. The US sees it. The US side sees it as a major step forward. That's Zelinsky is willing to hold a referendum and is no longer ruling out territorial concessions. But as Zelinsky emphasized during the phone interview with Axios, holding such a plebiscite would have major political logistical and security complications. That's why he thinks a 60 day ceasefire to arrange and hold the vote is the minimum. A senior US official told Axios, the Russians understand the need for a ceasefire if Zelinsky calls a referendum, but won a shorter timetable. Zelinsky also said it's not yet clear to him whether Russia is prepared to agree to Trump's plan in the first place. I have some intelligence, but I'm at the moment when I want to believe only the words of leaders, he said. I mean a brilliant move. Because what happened right after Zelinsky said that, Russia launched a massive ballistic missile strike last night on Kyiv, on car Kyiv and throughout Ukraine. And what Russia has signaled is that it doesn't want peace at all. Now,

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