Ian Johnson, the Stephen A. Schwarzman senior fellow for China studies at CFR, sits down with James M. Lindsay to discuss how Chinese filmmakers, journalists, and artists are challenging the Chinese Communist Party’s version of history.  

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Mentioned on the Podcast

Ian Johnson, Sparks: China’s Underground Historians and Their Battle for the Future

Ian Johnson, Wild Grass: Three Portraits of Change in Modern China

Ian Johnson, “Xi’s Age of Stagnation: The Great Walling Off of China,” Foreign Affairs

Liu Cixin, The Three-Body Problem 

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