Mariana van Zeller is a Peabody and Emmy Award-winning journalist whose credits include "Trafficked with Mariana van Zeller," "The OxyContin Express," and "Inside Secret America." She is also the host of "The Hidden Third" podcast. Her latest documentary special, "Super Scam Me," premieres October 17 on National Geographic and will be available to stream on Disney+ and Hulu.https://www.natgeotv.com/za/programs/natgeo/super-scam-mehttps://www.youtube.com/channel/UCoCiI8nJacn8gDiHxr6aQGAhttps://www.patreon.com/cw/TheHiddenThirdhttps://www.imdb.com/name/nm2447662/https://marianavanzeller.me
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Duration
2h 34m
Broadcast on
16 Oct 2026
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- Joe Rogan, what are you doing? - The Joe Rogan, experience. - Train my day, Joe Rogan, podcast my night, all day! (upbeat rock music) (laughing) - Hi Joe, so good to see you. - Every time I watch one of your new programs, I get anxiety. I'm like, please don't die, don't get hurt. What are you doing? - This is a walk in the park, though. - It's kind of a walk in a park, but not really. - No, not really. - Because you went to fucking Africa to meet scammers. - To confront my scammers. (laughing) - So your new show is all about romance scams. - Yeah. - And I was aware of these because I watched a show a long time ago about this poor lonely man who kept getting scammed. He thought that there was this woman and he was in contact with her and he flew to Europe to meet her twice. And both times she came up with some reason why she couldn't be there. Some emergency came up and this guy had given her hundreds of thousands of dollars and drained his account and his daughter was so sad. She's like, "I keep trying to tell him, but he won't listen." And you see these poor people that are so vulnerable. They're lonely and they really believe. - They really, really believe. I think the loneliness epidemic is a huge part of this, quite frankly. - It's a huge issue in this world, a huge issue in our country in particular. There's like a disconnect with family in our country and there's like people don't have like real community anymore. It's very weird. - It is. I think it's, yeah, it's absolutely one of the biggest reasons why scams are rampant these days. I mean, particularly romance scams. - Yeah. - 100%. - Well, you're preying on the saddest people. That's what's really, it's like, it's one thing if you're scamming some psycho fucking fraud guy who's doing stock market bullshit. You know what I mean? Like, and you scam them. - Yeah. - It's like you're scamming a scammer. - Yeah. It's true, but I think one of the problems we have when we talk
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Mariana van Zeller is a Peabody and Emmy Award-winning journalist whose credits include "Trafficked with Mariana van Zeller," "The OxyContin Express," and "Inside Secret America." She is also the host of "The Hidden Third" podcast. Her latest documentary special, "Super Scam Me," premieres October 17 on National Geographic and will be available to stream on Disney+ and Hulu.https://www.natgeotv.com/za/programs/natgeo/super-scam-mehttps://www.youtube.com/channel/UCoCiI8nJacn8gDiHxr6aQGAhttps://www.patreon.com/cw/TheHiddenThirdhttps://www.imdb.com/name/nm2447662/https://marianavanzeller.me
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