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This is not the sports with D-law podcast right now. But I do have a beer league minute going back last week here. So as I mentioned last episode, we had a loss. I don't remember what the loss was. But if you're saying we need to get back into income, well, we ended up playing a team that we should have won. We were actually up two to nothing. And then we fell behind three to two. We tied it up. But then I gave up another one. We end up losing four or three. So it's just so that was too lost in a row. And then, you know, we did they pull you? No, we don't have another goal. So they got me like that. I meant like when you were down by a goal at the end of the game. Oh, yeah, I came off the ice and I did the break. We're on the boards. We're like, I can't climb over the boards because they're a little bit high. And he were a goalie, right? Yeah, I couldn't get. Why are you jumping over the boards? Because they told me for the pollock striker, and I'm trying to get to the door open. And I couldn't get the door open. And my guys on the bench didn't. I'm like, get the door. And they didn't listen or hear me or pay attention. And so I'm kind of like speak with authority next time. I'm kind of like hanging off the boards. I'm like unlucky. They didn't get a penalty, although I wasn't touching the ice. So, but they didn't score. The boards like spider man. Essentially, is that the picture that I see? I was like, I was like I'm gonna have five and a half off. I think I did eventually get in. I think they did actually I think they did open the door for me. But I kept back in. You have to crawl along the boards to get to the door. No, I likely I didn't have to do that. But yeah, so Tuesday, I'll have another barely minute for just past week. So we'll see that. But it was a I guess it was a pretty good week for the wings. Not so much for the predators. No, I don't want to say it was a good week for the wings. Like it. I don't, you know, they've they've just they've they've struggled like, you know, we'll talk about the Rangers game. You know, they gave up another 34 shots. And you know, it's starting, you know, this game really made it apparent that yeah, the defense, we always talk about the defense. But the forwards just aren't getting back. They're just not getting back and playing defense. And it's you know, it's just putting a lot of pressure on our on our D. You know, we've got, you know, more outsider back there, Ben Shirot, you know, Gustafson. You know, we've got we've got some guys back there, but we need to support them. We're just not and it was really apparent, especially in the, you know, our special teams, you know, that's where it really shined. We were struggling so bad this game with special teams. And I'm not quite sure what happened. I don't know if New York just has a phenomenal power play team. But you know, they they had let's see, they scored out of three out of their four goals. We're on the power play. And that's concerning to me. You know, I'm sure watching this game, it was concerning to all of our fans. But you know, this is just a lot of detailed things that they aren't doing, just fundamental hockey. They're leaving the slot wide open. They have the boxes real sloppy. They're they're grouping up. They're bunching up. They're leaving guys wide open. And they're just playing chase puck. And hopefully, you know, I know it's still early in the season in D line. And I saw this and we'll talk about this, you know, the next recap we get into. But, you know, it's just plays in this slot are dangerous. Those are where some of the best scoring opportunities come from. That's where the best scoring chances come from. And you just, you can't leave the slot open. And you try to really struggle to that in this game. So, you know, they they need to, you know, they need to they need to pick it up. They just they have to pick it up. They have to start playing more, more detailed hockey. They have to start pressing a little bit more when it comes to the penalty kill and not leave those those scoring chances open, you know, for our opponents. But yeah, not too many bright spots in this game. You know, it's nice to get a goal by more outsider his first of the year Raymond had his fourth assist on the play. But yeah, that's that's pretty much that's pretty much it with this game. I mean, there was not much to see to try just it was very obvious that Detroit didn't belong in this game is. Yeah, just just disheartening. But the first thing I want to say is another team that made Detroit kind of look silly even though Detroit came out with the W just I mean, just look at the initial stats. The islanders, the Islanders had 30 shots on goal. Again, defensive breakdowns were leaving the slots open. Luckily, line was on his game and played phenomenal. We struggled to get in the face off dot 47% of the face off we had won. And you know, we're taking we're taking a lot of penalties. We gave up six this game. And it's so we just we got to tighten it up a little bit. I mean, or I'm sorry, three, three penalties and the one. So, you know, we just we get we got to sharpen up our game. You know, a lot of it's just mental. We did come out with the win. Patrick Kane had a, you know, phenomenal shots. Showtime came through. Now, do you lie? What your opinion on this? I actually, I've thought about this a few times, and it keeps coming back. So I want to bring it up. So Detroit is not a team that gets a ton of shots on goal. They just haven't been able to get the penetration. And you know, up to date of this Islanders game, you know, they had struggled to put put shots on goal. Now, they did still get a goal on only 11 shots. Can't remember what game it might be one that we're going to recap on the next show. Detroit had it was like seven shots and two goals. So here's my question to you, Dila, people always complain about Detroit not having goal scores. I think I have to argue that a little bit. I think we do have goal scores. I think we have guys that know how to find the back of the net when given the opportunity. Now, that's where the struggle comes in for the wings, is they don't get those opportunities to get those. They're playing defense too much. They're playing chase the puck and they're not getting those those scoring chances. But when they do, they're capitalizing. I mean, what are your thoughts on that? Just hearing that, you know, how they have like less shots, but they're still scoring goals. Well, they're making their shots. Cowell, that's for sure. Yeah, I mean, I just, I find it interesting because I was looking at it. It's like the Islanders took 30 shots and didn't have a goal. I mean, I can't really go by last game because New York, you know, left the floor with them. I guess quality is better in quantity in this case. Yeah. I mean, for sure in this case, but yeah, I don't, I don't know. Again, you know, you can't do that every game because, I mean, I'm just, you shoot the puck and, you know, you get 30, 40 shots. It's going to be obviously curious and kind of momentum. Oh, yeah. You know, I agree wholeheartedly and I would rather have you look at that and you think, you know, 40 shots of 11 boy, the Islanders dominated, but I mean, you can't really look at it like that because they might, you know, maybe they did dominate the wings, but maybe it was just the case of the gold tutters. I mean, obviously, you know, they, the Islanders, they lost by giving them one goal and they just couldn't score. So let's let's bring the same competitors played really well. So yeah, let's let's bring this back. Let's bring this back to let's go into the Nashville game because this this plays into my theory a little bit and I just, I want to roll, I want to roll with this. Are you, are you good at that deal? Yeah. So let's let's talk about it. Let's talk about the Red Wings game. Again, Detroit gave up a massive amount of shots. The pressure that Nashville kept on them for the majority of the game is pretty incredible. Yeah. Well, I love 39 shots in that game. And thank God Alex Lyon is on a hot streak because he is the only reason that we snuck out with that win. Yeah, you know, I, you know, I, and my nose, I says, you know, blind was on fire in this game. You know, he was, I didn't see all the game, but I seen parts of it. And, you know, good because, but you know, he was seeing the puck well, and he was getting back in position, which is huge for goaltender. If you're, if you're in position for gold, I mean, you're going to stop nine out of 10, 10 shots. Oh, sure. But saying that, look in this game, I think the wings were, were, were relying online a little bit too much. And, I mean, we were, but here's, here's my stat. Here's my stat. So if you look at this game, every five shots, Detroit scored a goal. Every, every five shots to try to score a goal. Is that because we have goal scores or dumb luck? Uh, they, I'm not sure. I think we've got goals, but I would say, I think, I think we've got guys who can score when they're playing their game. We need them to just play their game. We also need to give them support on the back end. So, and some of that is self-inflicted. Like I was saying in the beginning, you got to have a good back check. I mean, the only one I, I don't want to say I give him a pass, but we all knew he wasn't a good back checker with Showtime. We all knew he was not a defensive forward. He's got his moments. Don't get me wrong, but that's just not what his game is. He's his hand-eye coordination. I mean, he brings other skills to the table, but we need, we need more guys that can, that can get back and support the D and help with the breakout and, you know, just keep the tempo and the momentum of the game going. But I noticed, you know, as far as, you know, as far as, you know, as far as I'm just scoring goals, I noticed, you know, especially in the second period, you know, at this, at this point in the season, the predators hadn't had a win unit. And their frustration was just boiling. Oh, I mean, they're just, I mean, that was not, but you hadn't had a goal yet. And the predators, you know, they were going harder than that. And, and they've been doing that some more so in this game. But they created, you know, I thought they played better than this one reflected. You know, they went, you know, going the night, you know, a little bit too hard, you know, they end up getting taken to go with tenor and her instability, which it was, you know, definitely a penalty. I mean, he just ran into, but my point as far as, you know, saying that, you know, it, that he tried, they detried toughness, team toughness, you know, things like this happened, you know, player, you know, our team, like predators, you know, going on that, you know, running, I mean, obviously, if you run like a whole ton, you get a goal tenor for instance, teams are going to make exception. But, you know, not just that, you know, just, you know, and just any little, it almost looked like the old, old predators and wings rivalry, where, you know, every whistle, there is a little bit. So, you know, pushing a little chippy at times. But, you know, last year, I don't think that the Detroit, they don't really have a, you know, a team toughness, if you will, I think that's starting to come back, you know. So, I mean, so not only they had the scoring, but they also have that, you know, they sticking out for each other and that kind of stuff. So, right. Yeah. But, but I will say that, you know, the penalty kill woes continued, you know, stamco's who hadn't had a goal yet, it was only a matter of time. I mean, it's Steven stamco's stammers going to score a goal and stop, but he got a power play goal. You know, Forsberg set him up real nice, which came from Marsha. So, and it was a great play. I mean, it was an excellent play. And he's, I mean, he's deadly from that corner. And he's, you know, and it was a power play goal. And but, you know, before this, not knowing this game, but the other games, you know, they've been trying to set that play up because that's, I mean, even when going back to Tampa Bay, that was, they call it his office. Yeah. And that's kind of like a batch getting in the one-time reason. He would just like, I don't know what was going on, but he was always, he was just fanning on him or missing a completely or missing than that. And he finally, you know, converts on there. But, you know, right after, right after that, the wings responded with, with a goal. And, you know, and it was his other thing. It's the press turnovers. And that's what's been plaguing them all season longs. And, you know, and in this case, I've led to a goal. Well, here's the other thing, Dila, is, you know, everybody knows that's his office. I mean, as this play was developing, I looked at my wife probably two seconds before he scored the goal. And I said, "Stamp Coast is going to score right now." And the reason I said that to her, and she asked, "How the hell did you know that?" And I said, because nobody was covering him, he was in the lower part of the left-hand circle where he scores tons of goals. And he was wide open. I was like, there was no way. I said, I knew that puck was going to get through. And I knew that he was just going to capitalize on it. And he did. He buried it. I mean, there was... Lion had no chance on that one. He didn't have any shot whatsoever. I don't even blame that goal on him at all. But I did get nervous when you guys came out quick and scored that first goal. You know, Luke Shen scored the first goal for you guys. And, you know, they talked about Gus Nyquist a little bit, obviously, X-Wing. And he's a great little utility player. I know he's older in age, but it seems like he's fitting okay. Got his first assist. And I don't dislike him. You know, he's one of those guys that was there through the good in the mostly bad years. So you don't forget him. But yeah, all in all, I thought to try ahead and not a great stretch. And I think this was a good game. Yeah, we went two for three out of these three three games, which obviously you'll take. But they just, they got to clean some things up. And I know it's early. They're going to do it. I'm just, I'm just complaining at this point. I'm not actually, you know, saying it's gospel or anything like that. But yeah, once they start cleaning this up and, you know, that's going to be a coach thing. And, you know, I'm sure he's working on it because, you know, as a few coaches have been walked out of the organization, you know, there's nothing stopping him from being walked out either. So, you know, obviously he's going to try to work on it the best that he can. And, you know, I don't want to say get the ship righted because again, we're kind of early in, but just start finding our groove and, you know, get, get moving along the season. And I think a lot of it's going to start with cleaning up the power, the power, or the penalty kill. And that's kind of like the opposite of the president need to, you know, their, their power killing has been decent, but their power play needs to be a lot better, especially with the players around this power play. Oh, yeah. And they, you know, they just, I think it was like one power play goal. And I don't really have, I don't have the, they're in power play numbers, but it's not, it's not good for the amount of players that, you know, the, the quality players. I keep telling you, man, and I just said it like five times, it's, it's early. It's early in the season. A lot's going to happen. There's going to be a lot of changes. There's going to be stars that come out of nowhere that, you know, like Robertson a few years ago had an unbelievable year. And, you know, he's good, but he just hasn't kept consistent numbers like the McDavid, or I don't want to say an icon because he's always hurt, but, you know, just these guys like Austin Matthews that just make it happen. Oh, he's not hurt in this year. But, but yeah, I mean, yeah, I don't know. I don't know. It just, again, like I said, D law, I'm just hoping that Detroit can, can get on a nice little wind streak here soon and, you know, take it and run to the, we need to have a few of those streaks throughout the year where we just get hot if we want to make the playoffs. I mean, I mean, dude, we, we've been in a, in a rebuild for seven years. And somebody pointed out, well, Eismann hasn't, you know, he's only been here four years or whatever going on his fifth year. It's like, yeah, I understand that. But it was known that, that they were going to rip the bandaid off and that, you know, Holland was just muddling through at that moment. But, you know, they've actually been trying to rebuild for the last seven years in a legitimate rebuild, not a, oh, well, let's try to sign Mike Madonna to come in for, you know, three games. And then we're going to put them on IR and not play them ever again. And, you know, like, you know, let's bring in, you know, Brett Hall and Dominic Hashek and, you know, actually we're trying to manage our salary cap and actually trying to be a decent GM, you know, started like seven years ago and it's just been, it's been a rough ride. So it would be nice if you tried to get on a few streaks here. And I feel like I'm talking way too much D loss. So I'm going to turn it over to and just speaking of how, and I don't want to get off in a, in a little tangent before I get going and I'm like, roll with it, man. Yes, but it just seems like, you know, he's an Edmonton now. And it's like, I don't know what's going on with them. I mean, they are, you know, they had a slow start too. Yeah, they did it. They are back to 500, but it's like, this team should be a lot better than that. And I don't know, I mean, I don't know if he's made a lot of moves. So in this offseason, really, I mean, he's pretty much kept the core. So I don't know. And obviously he can't blame him. But I was just wondering if he's, you know, is he doing the same thing in Edmonton that he didn't Detroit? But I guess that's another, you know, revisit that if the time comes and, you know, we'll see what what Edmonton does, you know, on the next year or two. Yeah. But, you know, going back, you know, we talked about the Detroit National game, but kind of stepped back, you know, before that they played Edmonton. And you know, it's obviously before up until the Edmonton, they obviously, you know, they still hadn't had a win. They weren't playing him really been playing all that bad. They got a lead, you know, but you know, they just gave up some goals. And, you know, McDavid got his first goal of the season in that game as Edmonton. I mean, you know, he's that's going to happen. You know, March is so it got his first goal. I was on the power plant in this game, but it just they were just lost. I, you know, I just seemed like it just seemed like they were trying to find their identity. And, you know, the same thing and happened in Detroit. And then, you know, so going to the boss and game, I, you know, it was, it was in Nashville and didn't think it was going to be, you know, all that great of a game because boss and they've been kind of up and down this season so far. You don't really know what team is, you know, kind of show up, but Bruno kind of mixed, you know, he's been changing the lineups throughout this, you know, all in five start. And he went back to the lines that he had last year for the most part. And, and then he pushed to get to the end coast with not close enough. I think that he moved close enough down, but the, but he put nine quests in Foresburg together. I don't remember who was centered now. I think they had to take the whole rally on their line, which played the way they were in line last year. And, you know, it's something and something clicked against Boston. Sorrows was pretty good in that game. I mean, I mean, he, you know, he did get a shutout in the game, but they just continue outshoot opponents. I mean, yeah, they gave up 32 shots, but national, you know, 42 shots. I mean, that's actually, you know, that's a, that's a, that's a lot for an actual game, really. You know, most, you know, most games usually around the 20s. It didn't really look all that. I mean, national came out flying in the, in the, in the first period. Did he or did he determine that? Really? Sorrows made some pretty good saves. I mean, obviously had a shutout, but, you know, Boston scores, one of those goals and it could be, you know, who knows what would have happened. So, and they're getting, you know, Nyquist coordinate in this game. And then the big, I guess you want to see, I don't know, the big three or big four, you know, the big, the big guys for preters didn't, didn't really score other than O'Reilly, you know, part by goal. You know, we get Luca Vangelista and Tommy Novak, you know, third and fourth line players. And while Luca Vangelies was venting that goal, but, so, you know, it's nice to see if they can, you know, chip in these secondary scoring while these, the top score is, you know, kind of work with their way through their little, I don't want to call it slump, but I, obviously, would be a slump. But, you know, they just, it just looked like a totally different team against Boston at home. I mean, they were, they were the pretty much all game long. They were first on all the loose blocks. They were hating. I believe there was even a fight in this game. Luca and Mark Castilek, even though Luca, I don't know if he's really, I don't, never sure if he fights a lot or a good fighter, but he, he didn't, Mark Castile, like I would say won that fight. Not just because he pushed him, you know, he pretty much, you know, how they just, uh, bring him down to the ice, you know, and then suddenly, you know, they're fighting, and then players just kind of tackle him down to the, well, not really tackle. I mean, it was nice to see that part of the game, you know, if they hit the hitting and, and, and nice to see their, they're relatin it, relatin less like they were last season, you know, getting the loose box person. So, you know, he's starting to see, you know, that was the first win of the season. So, they finally got a win. They got the win in the column and they're, they're actually the last team to get a point. And they, they weren't the last, they weren't the last team to get a win, uh, because this game, San Jose still hadn't had a win either. They, they, uh, believe San Jose ended up winning the next day or, might have been that, uh, missed Sunday, but, um, no, I think they actually sent us a loss at a game that that game that, um, but so, but, um, San Jose is actually the last team to get a win. So, um, but, you know, they had called Zach LaRue up. Uh, he made his NHL debut against Boston. So, you know, they do their little lap around, um, you know, come, uh, and warm up. See, set him out of the ice alone. No, that's always a cool tradition. Yeah, let him get a moment to get, let him have their moment. Because it's finally made it, you know, they finally made it. Yeah, and it seems like everybody was like, oh, they, they, you know, it's like, it's, it's almost the way they, the broadcasters are like talking, you know, getting their lap, their solo lap, like it's, like it's a bad thing, but it's like, I don't know. I'd be like, if I was in that position, I'd be low. I mean, yeah, you want to be with your team, but you know, the spotlight's on you for maybe 10 seconds or however long, sometimes longer depends on when, however long the team comes out. But just, this is kind of, it'd be kind of cool, I think. You know, in the, in his first five games, you know, predators were all scored 23 to 10. So yeah, they lose all five game. I mean, yeah, 23 games and 23 goals and five games is a lot, but you can't want to look at that because a lot of more like odd man rushes, two on ones, you know, just in breakdowns of defense. So I mean, yeah, he goes on the goaltender and you kind of blame the goaltender, but told us go or 10 goals in the five games, that's like two goals a game. Yeah. Yeah. If you, I mean, and obviously, there was games where they got shot out, like I believe that Detroit shot him out. Um, I was the first team, the second game. So, I mean, but it averages to, you know, two goals a game and you look at that two goals a game you should win, but you know, NHL, you know, now with, with scoring and everything and it's, you know, you almost need three or four goals. So if, if you're only, you can't expect to win by only scoring two goals a game. So, I mean, yeah, you can't, you can't expect to, to, to have to score five or six every game, but you got to, you know, you can't depend on your goaltender to bail you out, you know, like, like what line is doing? Well, sometimes you need, sometimes you need your goalie to steal a game for you. Um, and, uh, you know, going back, uh, talking about Luke Shen and his fight, he was honored before the Wing's game for his 1000s game, which was on against Edmonton. Just another player to get their 100th game and, you know, it's one of an honor, I guess. So, it's all I have for this. Yeah, finally get their first win against Boston. You know, spring, maybe they don't be like a springboard and kind of try to overcome that O and five star and that's actually the worst start in predator's history. I thought they had an O and six star at one time, but I think that I think the most before this was O and four, which is kind of surprising. I know it's kind of old news right now, but, you know, uh, some NHL stories. I don't know. I just have a couple. Yeah, it was not a ton. Columbus is home opener. I can't remember who they're playing. It was a Canadian team, I think, but they had a tribute to Johnny Goodrow. They, they lined up on the opening face out without a left winger. I think it was for like 13 seconds or something. I, because there's number 13, I not sure exactly, but they actually took the day. So, I mean, they must have been playing and in this situation, I, I wonder if because I, I don't know, I think they stopped it after the 13 seconds and didn't, I didn't see the whole thing. So, but I just thought that was a nice little tribute. No, I agree. No, they all weren't, they're all wearing their stickers, uh, helmet stickers out that the line across the whole NHL. So, um, but, you know, speaking of the Islanders, they had played Montreal. I think it was before the Detroit game. And it went into a shootout. I don't remember what the score of the game was. Was that two, two or three, three or something like that, but it went nine around in the shootout. I, and I just ended up winning in that game, but, but I just thought, you know, I think that's the longest, longest shootout so far this year. So, just had, just had to mention that. Another thing I want to keep kind of do this year, Old Vashkin's chasing down the 894 goal record, Gretzky's record. So, just kind of a little gold tracker. He's sitting at 854, I believe. Let me see if it's updated. He's only got two goals in this season. He saw, he's sitting at 855. So, so he did get one more since I was going to 855. So, he needs to step it up. I don't know. Maybe he's slowing down. Um, I know he had, well, 40 31 goals last season. His production is going down. He had 50 and then 42 and 31 seven games. He got two goals. I guess, I guess two goals in some games. I mean, if I would be, if there was me personally, if I had two goals in some games, I'd be really happy. But, obviously for him, he's probably not happy. But, you know, he's, he's still 40 goals behind. I mean, I don't know how many years he's got left. So, you know, he really needs to step it up if he wants that record. So, that's all I got about for that. I don't know. I haven't really seen much news. Do you realize that San Jose is the only team in NHL history to lose their first nine games of a season in back-to-back seasons? Oh, they were that bad last year too. Yeah. Oh, I can't remember if they, oh, that's what they did, they had the first pick. Oh, they're old seven, they're old seven and two. So, they said, actually, someone won a game yet. Well, we'll see what happens to them. Yeah, I think that about wraps it up, right? I was short for, you know, long week, but short stories. There hasn't been any suspensions yet. Oh, wait a minute. There's not a fine. Hathaway was fine for labeling. He's on the fliers away. No, Hathaway is on the capitals, isn't he? Yeah, he was penal. He was fine. 5000. Oh, no, he is on the fliers. He used to be on the capitals. It was against the Minnesota Wilds, Joel Erickson. Oh, Erickson, okay. Oh, X's last name. Okay. And he was, he was issued a penalty for roughing. Well, it was elbowing, but the penalty was for roughing. Go figure. Hathaway was the only finer suspension so far this season. Did you get Oliver Ekman Larson? Do we talk about that one? The interference on Jake Genssel? I did him 5000. I don't recall. Yeah, that was what happened. So he got, oh, he said he's on Utah, right? Yeah, he used to be on Arizona. May believes. Oh, they must have traded him last year then. Yeah. Last time I remember he was on Arizona. So he's on Toronto now. What was that again? I didn't catch that one. Interference against Jake Genssel. And he is on Pittsburgh? Correct. Really isn't any end like we said. No injuries, no suspensions. I mean, it could change as far as, you know, the predators look like they might be in a draft lottery. But I just want to make, you know, some couple of prospects to watch that could be, you know, could go one, two in the next year's draft. James Hagan sees a center and Porter Martone, he's a center. So just kind of keep it and kind of watch them throughout their college careers and see what their, see what happens if, you know, if they continue to, to be the projected one, you know, one and two for the NHL draft coming up is the national, probably looking at one of them all though. They're both setters. How are you looking at them? Oh, they're in the, if they're going to be in the draft. They look right now. They're a second to last. So they could be in draft last. I didn't ask that. I said, how many games have we played? Six. Okay. You realize how many games there are in an NHL season, right? Yeah, but I mean, I just wanted to point that out. But, you know, I, I guess I'm kind of, you've already written this season off and it hasn't even started yet. Yeah. And somebody was saying on social media about the year, St. Louis won their cup in 2019, they had, they had that miserable. They were dead last in January. I think sometimes we talked about this like four or five times on the show. So I mean, but it's endless. Well, Ryan O'Reilly was on that team, and he's now on a predator. So I don't know. I mean, I guess what that's the way to see. They were fighting the practice. It was a nightmare. I guess we'll have to wait and see what happens when predators are. Predators will be just fine. This one I mentioned that sees Milwaukee kind of the total opposite predators. They, six, six game winning streak now. So, you know, they won, they lost the first game to the griffins and they met on a terrace. And so kind of interesting to see that, that they're total opposite. I don't know what the predators are doing. So, so coming up to predators, you know, they got the games. They got Chicago at Chicago, and then they got Columbus and an at Tampa Bay. So let's quickly visit our weekly pick segment. As far as predators, that's the Edmonton. We both were right on that one. So I'm actually now old for anymore. The Detroit game, the night I was right on that one and you were incorrect. And then the Boston game, I was wrong and you were right. So that leaves me at two and four and four and you are four and two. And then for the wings, I'm on a little streak. Actually, the Rangers, the 10, 17 Rangers, I was correct and you were incorrect. And then of course, on the national one, I was correct and you were incorrect. You thought it was going to be a predator's win? It says incorrect and I was correct and why would you say that they were going to lose to Nashville? And I was game where both correct. So that glee's just going into Chicago. I'm going to pick a win win in Columbus. I'm going to pick a win and at Tampa Bay, I'm going to say a loss and then and then I'm going to win for all three of those. And then I'm going to do the 1031 Edmonton mean just saying a loss there. I picked a win for some reason. That's all I saw. Well, you can still change it because the game hasn't happened yet. No, I'm going to go. I'm going to stay with a win. You're not going to say if there's a big injury, then I will change mine. So you're going to go win win win win win loss. Yeah. And then okay, so then the Detroit side they got so Rangers, I picked a win and they did not win. And I picked Nashville as a loss because it was in Nashville. I was incorrect and you were correct. You already went through all that moving forward. So we've got New Jersey. I must have picked a win on that one for Detroit. What against the Devils? Yes. Because I would have said a win on that because New Jersey is really, really, really struggling this year, especially under Sheldon Keith. Buffalo, I'm going to do a loss because it's in Buffalo and to try just they struggle with Buffalo lately, especially in Buffalo. Last few times I've gone, they have not played well. Edmonton, I'm going to go with a loss because of Edmonton and Buffalo have been playing really well lately. Yeah. And when a peg, I'm going with a loss. And that's as far as I get to go. I call on your call loss of Buffalo, Los Edmonton. And I know Winnipeg is playing really good and really highly lately, but I think I think that's in that area. That's in Detroit. So I think they're going to end up winning that game. And then the next one acts as a second. So we can do that through the next and next show. That wraps up our weekly picks. Oh, yeah. And then so on the wings side, we're both three and three as a day or three and three on that. So I got a little streak going for the wings. So I started all in three and now I'm battle back to three. So that's so I'm starting to get starting to get my mojo back as far as a picks. That's it for the weekly picks and in previous section. And you know, don't forget my new sports with D love shows should be won't be this week. Probably starting, it'll be November sometime. So and there's no not a real timetable or I'm going to start it. So just kind of pay attention to social media and see when my first show is going to be live. But as far as Frederick's podcast, you can hit us up on our social media and Facebook and Instagram at predatory podcast and X and YouTube or at prevalence pod and you can always follow us on podbean and listen to us live and check out our email at prevalence podcast at gmail.com. So I have for this show, anything, any less remarks for rent Ron? Nope, nothing for me here. All right, thanks for tuning in to the pred wings podcast. Good night, hockey town. See you smash bell. [Music] [Music] [Music]
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