In Part 2 of the interview with Fred and Teri Stanfield, Bryce's parents share how their faith in Jesus has sustained them through this unthinkable tragedy. And how they, particularly Teri, are finding strength after his death to help others. It's a powerful episode.
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Dan Scott Show, Radio Episode 91 - Stanfields, Part 2 (10-6-24)
The following program is a presentation of Grand Slam Ministries. Hi again everybody and welcome to this week's edition of the Dan Scott Show. This is Episode 91 and each and every one of them have been presented by our 501c3 non-profit organization Grand Slam Ministries. I am Dan. It is great to have you with us. I hope that you have had a wonderful week. We'll try not to mess it up, see if we can give you a little bit of a boost and get you off to a great start for the week that lies ahead. On this week's show we finished what we started last week. It is part two of our interview with Fred and Terry Stanfield, the parents of Furman University football player Bryce Stanfield who passed away back in February. Just a riveting emotional conversation and in this second part is when we really get into how their faith in Christ has sustained them throughout this past seven months since the tragedy that took place in their lives. I can tell you that I anticipated this interview making an impact and it has. When I put the archive up then I can see how many downloads people go back and listen to it again or listen to it for the first time or whatever the case. In the first 24 hours part one was up. It doubled. Actually more than doubled the previous week's episode, that number of downloads for the entire week. So I knew this was going to have an impact and I just pray that God uses it for his glory. And as I said last week for part one, somebody out there specifically, I don't know who you are, but somebody specifically needs to hear what Fred and Terry have to say because you have gone through something just like this. So today it's part two of our interview with Fred and Terry Stanfield. We'll be back to get into that in just a moment, but first as always a quick word about Grand Slam Ministries. 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Use your voice recorder and send me about a 60 second, no more than 60 second little clip, just telling me about a particular show or a topic that's had an impact, something you'd like to hear, and we'll play that in a future show, Dan@danscotchshow.org. All right, let's get to it. Part two of our interview with Fred and Terry Stanfield, and we'll backtrack a little bit to overlap to the end of last week's show. And when we pick this up, Terry is talking about Bryce being in intensive care and the visitation policy that the hospital basically allowed them to obliterate. So here is part two, the final part of our conversation with Fred and Terry Stanfield. Bryce was in the CVICU, which is the most critical unit in a hospital, and there's very restricted rules. So I think the rules are that you're allowed to visitors, and not to visitors at a time, to two people who are specified to be visitors at any given time. And of course, that was Fred and me, but the hospital broke all of their own rules, and they let every one of the the firm and people come upstairs, the students, the staff, everyone. At one point, we had to come up with a list, because I think the media started trying to come up too. So the hospital got with Coach Mazza and kind of put some restrictions on it, but we had said anyone from Furman who wanted to come to visit Bryce, would be allowed to come visit Bryce, and the hospital told us that when it came to Bryce, there would be no rules. They broke all the CVICU rules so that Furman could be with Bryce. And so we made sure that all the students were aware of the condition he was in and what it looked like when they would be going into the room. And anyone who still wanted to see him after knowing what it would be was welcome to come in, and they did. They just cycled through throughout the course day and night of those three days. They just continued to cycle through. And in the meantime, Coach Hendricks and Lee Ann, Lee Ann's parents, Mr. and Mrs. Hedgepeth, Jason Cassidy, Rob Carson, Jason Donnelly, Dwayne and Christy Vaughn, Kevin Lewis, all of them were there, and they never left. They never left. His teammates never left him. Some of his closest, they actually never left the room. So Matt Sachofka, Callie Chiswick, Xavier Stevens, his best friend Bridger, who doesn't go to Furman, but his best friend Bridger. Day one. Day one, yeah. Day one. One morning we woke up, we probably fell asleep for 30 minutes to an hour, and we look over and they literally have their hoodies completely cinched tight. And they're all over there in the corner, huddled up like four, five of them, like all against each other, just sleep. And they were just like, right, this is our boy, we're not going to leave him. It was, it was truly amazing. And it was, it was unbelievable. Yeah, they, they, they lived off of Starbucks and Monster energy drinks for those three days, and they literally never left his room. The school was amazing about letting the students, you know, excusing them from classes so that, that they could be with Bryce. The professors were coming through. It was just incredible. So for those three days, it was just a constant flow of visitors that were coming in and bringing the most beautiful notes with them, sharing stories about Bryce that we could read later. So coming in and, and singing songs, Thai young blood would come in and sing to Bryce. It was amazing. Some of his friends would come in and pray over him. They'd pray the most beautiful prayers. And then Mr. Hedgepeth, Leanne's dad, he, he is the only person that could call my anxiety during those three days. I would, I would start to, to feel a panic attack coming, and I would ask for Mr. Hedgepeth. I was like, please, please bring Mr. Hedgepeth in and have him say a prayer. And he would come and stand over Bryce and he would pray. And it didn't matter what time of day or night it was. If I asked for Mr. Hedgepeth, he was there. He was there within a couple of minutes. He was just incredible. So then on that Friday morning, you know, the doctors had told us that we, we had just a few hours left. And about that time, President Davis came in the room and she was dressed in full graduation regalia. And the hospital had a camera crew. The entire team was there. They had a cap and gown that they put on Bryce. And we packed in about 50 people into the room. And the rest were in the hallway. And there was a, there was a nurse that was in charge of Bryce's equipment to keep him alive. And she, she stood guard over it the entire time while there were so many people in our room. So like I said, there's about 50 people in the room just packed in. And there's about another hundred people out in the hallway. And at one point, they're doing a Houdat chant, you know, that we do after a big win at Furman. And it took a few minutes. Coach Lewis convinced day one that he could do it because day one was pretty choked up because, you know, day one and Bryce were pretty good friends. And he was, he was very choked up. But Kevin Lewis, Caleb, was able to, to get louder. And when he, he got louder, the entire team was doing it. And so they're, they're on that entire hallway. People had to be like, what on earth is going on? Because I mean, they, they are just screaming. And it was pretty amazing. It was incredible. It was. But, but President Davis, I mean, she came in and she conducted the most beautiful graduation ceremony. She had an actual diploma. Yep. That was printed with his name on it. And she was dressing her full regalia. And she gave the most beautiful speech. And then she conferred his degree in health sciences, his bachelor of science in health sciences. And it was magna cum laude. Yep. So it was, it, it was the most beautiful moment in the midst of this terrible, terrible tragedy. And it's something that, that we will forever be grateful for. Yeah. I wanted to get all of that leading into what is, in my mind, is the most important thing about this. What, what, what we normally do on this show is tell stories of the amazing, redemptive power and grace of Jesus Christ. And we've had so many different stories that this is really the first kind of story like this that we've done on this show, but it doesn't make the power of Christ any less, any less present. When I found out what happened, I can't remember where I was coming back from, but I got to the football building and Tracy Hendricks was there. And she was kind of filling me in. And the first question that I asked her after she told me what was going on, I said, is Bryce a believer? And she got a big smile on her face and she said, oh, yes. Which calmed me a little bit. So I guess the big question is for anybody who's listening. Can you fathom going through something like this without faith in Christ? I mean, can you, can you put into words what that has meant to you in this, in this entire situation? It's the only thing that gets us through every single day. There's there's really no other reason for us to face another day. You know, it's it's only by faith. That's it. And knowing where Bryce is, because we know Bryce is in heaven. Yeah, Bryce has been saved. We are confident that Bryce is in heaven. And to know that that someday we're going to be there with him again. It's a comfort as I've come to find out in the last six or seven months on a couple of different levels. I don't know how people who don't have faith get through things, who have people who don't have a real relationship with Jesus Christ get through things like this. I really don't. So I we've we've we've we've held we've held some different sessions here at the house. We've done church on Wednesdays with some friends here at the house where we'll do like a Bible study. We've been studying revelation. Yeah. And of course, we've been going to church on Sundays. And then here recently, we've been going on Wednesdays. And they've been talking in the Bible study about about heaven. And so we want to know everything about heaven, the rapture when it's going to happen, when we're going to go see our son again. Yeah. That's that's really what kind of keeps us going. Because you know, we have no other kids. Our pastor asked the other night. So the Wednesday night session on heaven is is a life group. And it's actually based on Randy Alcorn's book heaven, right, which was which Leanne Hendricks gifted to me shortly after Bryce passed away. One day, a delivery showed up at my door and it was a gift from Leanne Hendricks. And it was it was the book heaven. And she said she was reading it. And that she thought that that it could help calm my anxiety and help me have have some peace about where Bryce is. And she said, let's read this together. And it it honestly is what gets me through the really bad days. That book gives me so much hope and just learning more and more about where Bryce is. You know, and our pastor talks about this too is, you know, we should really talk about heaven in church more often. You know, we talk about a lot of lessons in the Bible, but but not so much about heaven. We don't talk about about the future, you know. And so we should talk about, we should talk about the heaven and we should talk about revelation and what's to come. And so we're really enjoying this Wednesday night life group that we're going through right now. As a matter of fact, our pastor asked us on the first night, he said, you know, how many of us are ready to go to heaven today? And how many of us would rather rather wait for about five or 10 more years to go to heaven? And of course, Fred and I, we're like, raise it out and say and pick our heads are up. We're ready to go. We're ready today. Say if you're getting up a load right now, let's go, right? Let's go. What we're waiting for, you know, we're fighting our way to the front. And, and then he said to everyone, he said, you know, he said, we all ought to look forward to going to heaven every day. It ought to be our main priority. You know, we shouldn't want to delay. You know, I know we feel like we've got things to do for the next five or 10 years, but really where we should want to be is heaven. And that just made Fred and I feel so much better. Maybe, maybe not crazy. Mm hmm. No, no, I get it. Trust me. I get it. You know, exactly what you're talking about. So we continue with Fred and Terry Stanfield and and I'm not going to keep you much longer, but just a couple of more things. Fred, you and I had a chance to talk at Furman's fan day. And I talked to both of you, but I made it a point to come and talk to you, especially because I saw with my son-in-law when we lost our grandson. Everybody flocks to the mom. And it's natural. I think that's natural. And sometimes we men don't know what to say in situations like that. We're not really good sometimes at sharing our feelings. We're taught, keep things inside, suck it up, go on about your business, you know, you're the provider, you're the, or at least of another generation, some of us were. I just wanted to see how you were, how you were holding up that day. Do you have a support system, an outlet where you can get what you need when you need it? Well, I try. So, you know, number one, I try to bury myself and work. So, you know, I try to preoccupy out myself with work so much that I try not to think about things too much. But I will tell you that where I work at, Bryce used to come work with me. So, I see him a lot at work and a lot of the things that we do. But, you know, when I'm busy, things are great. When it slows down or I come home, then, you know, when I'm driving home, that's when I start to get a little sad. But I have, I mean, I've, I've got friends and I've got family down in Tampa that I've been talking to, Terry and myself, we go to counseling. So, you know, we see a counselor, definitely recommend it. You know, we were going at least once a week for a good while. And the counselor was just like, you know, I hear all these stories about Bryce and you guys and he sounds really amazing. I wish I could meet him. And, but she's, you know, she's honest. She's like, I just don't know what I can do for the two of you. She goes, all I can do is just keep listening and trying to give you a little tidbits here and there of what to try and praying with it and praying with us. Yeah. And so, so, you know, I mean, I have that me and Terry talk. I would tell you that when we come up to Furman, Furman's home, you know, when this thing first happened, you know, we'd even made the comment we should sell everything we got and just move up to Greenville because, again, everywhere that we go in Greenville because we've been to so many restaurants with Bryce and so many from places up there, we see him everywhere in Greenville. Right. And Greenville and Furman has made him into the person that he is. And we've really seen it in the last three years that he's been there. But every time, every time I go to Greenville, I'm talking with somebody like yourself, Coach Hendrix, you know, Coach Vaughn, even Christie, Leanne. I mean, you name it. I'm talking to them and they're asking me questions and, you know, and I'll just start crying and just tell them how I feel. And so... Well, that's good. And people like me and everybody else, we're not going to let you off the hook. We're not going to let you bury your head in the sand. Yeah. Well, I mean, I have to tell you that the outreach from Furman, it's not just what you see when we're there. They surrounded us during that time in the hospital seven months ago, and they haven't left our side yet. And they won't. I can tell you with 100% confidence, they aren't going to leave us ever. They show up for us in big ways and small ways every single day. Whether it's a phone call or a text or a monument at the stadium, you know? They always know what we need. We've had coaches come down here and go to dinner with us. We've had players that have come down here and spent the night with us, stayed a couple days and we would take them to the aquarium, you know, try to go do something fun with them. Had more players come up and we went bowling with a couple of them. So, I mean, Well, I heard, I heard Coach Hendricks tell the team after one of the practices, I think, or he told me he told them that, you know, you lost Bryce, but you gained 80 other sons or 100 sons or whatever it is. I got to ask you this before we wrap it up. And I don't know that I left enough time to do this, but when I say the name Matthew Gilstrap, I get the Terry's grin just, just doubled. That whole situation and Matthew was a guest on the show a few weeks ago, something that only God could orchestrate. But when you needed something most, he used the selling of a swimming pool on Facebook to orchestrate that. I mean, how does that even happen? Yeah, you know, I think it was, I don't know which morning it was, but I had said to Terry, I need something. And she was like, what do you mean you need something? And I was like, I need to know some answers about when Bryce collapsed, what do you say, what did he do? What happened exactly? Because that was kind of the missing thing that we weren't 100% sure of. And literally, I think it was later that night that I think you reached out to Terry to tell her what happened. And I was like, I mean, I just asked, I mean, I remember, I remember saying it to her and I remember praying to God. You know, I just need an answer here. I need something. And then, you know, Terry's like, you ain't gonna believe this. And I was like, okay, tell me, you know, so you know, go ahead, tell us. Yeah. And it came at a moment when I'm literally sitting in the doctor's office telling my doctor, I can't do this. I'm not strong enough. I, I don't know how I'm going to do this, to which of course the doctor responded, well, you don't have any other choice. So we're going to figure this out. And literally, that's when I got the message from Dan. And he said, something happened today, and I need to tell you about it. Yeah. And it was, it was the answers that we were looking for. And from that point, things moved pretty quickly. And we were able to meet Matthew on Saturday. And he answered, he answered Fred's questions. And so much more, and so much more. And he just gave us peace that, you know, he's, he's the last person to talk to Bryce on the serve. Yeah. And for those who don't know who maybe didn't hear the show three or four weeks ago, Matthew Gilstrapp was the first, first responder on the scene, when, when the emergency call came in over at Furman on early that morning. And no one, everything that we know now, and, and I think we knew it then too, but you know, dice, Bryce, he died there on the field. He was there at Furman in the stadium, on the field in the ambulance. And that's where he passed away. Matthew was the, was the last one to talk to him. And you know, Matthew has told us that he felt like a presence of Bryce touching him on the shoulder telling him it was okay, that he had went to heaven. And you know, when he told us that, he confirmed what we knew it, what was in our hearts, we believed it, we believed it. Yeah, you know, the Bible tells us that that angels escort us to heaven, right? I believe that Matthew escorted Bryce to the angels. Yeah, wow. It's, it's the, to me, it's the Romans 828 moment in this story, because nothing about Bryce's passing is good. But the good that comes out of it, and stories like this, and you getting the answers that you need at the last, at that exact moment. And I said that was the last question, actually, I've got one more, because Terry, you told me three or four weeks ago, maybe it was at Furman on Fan Day that because of what happened to Bryce and what they found out medically was, was the culprit that you are now working with an organization to bring awareness to is it blood clots? Is that, is that correct? It is. And boy, do I have another story about that for you? Go ahead. Well, you want to talk about that there are no coincidences. You know, so the reason for Bryce's collapse is that he had a gigantic blood clot. It was a DVT and a piece of that DVT broke loose and traveled to his heart. And that's what calls the cardiac arrest. We later came to find out that Bryce had a risk factor known as factor five Leiden. That is a blood clotting disorder that is inherited genetically. We had never heard of it. So it was a shock to find out that Bryce had it, that he inherited it from me, and I inherited it from my dad. Clearly, none of us had ever had a history of blood clots. So knowing that information, I began to research blood clots because I needed to know more about what happened to Bryce. And I came across an organization called the National Blood Clot Alliance. And after some months and some prayer, I decided that I wanted to volunteer with this organization as an advocate for blood clot awareness. So I began the training process with them. So I'm on a Zoom call for my first training meeting. And the trainer tells me that she's so excited about the September 7th event. And I just thought maybe she has me confused with someone else because there's 25 or 30 people on this call. And I don't have an event on September 7th that she would know about. Because she's her new. Yeah. And so a little bit later in the call, she mentioned the event again. And so I decided I needed to fess up because if I was expected to be somewhere and do something on September 7th, well, I knew I already had plans to be at Furman that day. So I kind of spoke up and I said, I'm sorry, I might be missing something, but what's happening September 7th? And she said, Oh, you don't know. And I said, no, I don't know what's going on. So she said, stay on after the call. We'll fill you in. So I did. And she proceeded to explain to me that Jason Donnelly and Camille Menzies from Furman had reached out to the National Blood clot Alliance. And they wanted to do an awareness event at Furman on September 7th to honor Bryce. So it was amazing to me that Furman had no idea that I was in connection with the National Blood clot Alliance. And I had no idea that they were in connection with the National Blood clot Alliance. But both of us were had decided to become advocates for blood clot awareness. So some of you may have seen on Saturday, Camille, around the fan zone, handing out information and advocate advocating for awareness for blood clot risk factors and blood clot awareness. So I was so incredibly proud of Camille for what she's doing. Well, but it says a lot about who you guys are that you want to take such a personal tragedy. And let's make no bones about it. It is an absolute tragedy. But you want to use that to try to help other people. That says a lot about the two of you. Well, you know, we weren't aware that Bryce had a risk factor for blood clotting. And, you know, if we had been aware of that, then, you know, it would have given some people some heads up about some symptoms that he was reporting that that were vague symptoms that that seemed disconnected. But but when you have that that missing piece of information, it kind of brings the puzzle altogether. And it might have changed the outcome for Bryce. So I want to make sure that that other athletes don't don't miss those risk factors as well. Because with blood clots, you don't think of a young, athletic, healthy person being at risk for blood clots. And, you know, what we've come to find out is it happens more often than what you're aware of. So shortly after this happened to Bryce, there was a university of Cincinnati, Cincinnati defensive tackle, who also had blood clots. He had a different outcome than Bryce, thankfully. But then shortly after that, there was New England Patriot defensive tackle, who was hospitalized for blood clots. So it's easy for athletes to dismiss these, these, these symptoms as pulled muscle, you know, I mean, they have pulled muscles and soreness in their legs all the time. Shortness of breath. Well, you know, they're running, they're conditioning, they're, they're doing hard things physically. So shortness of breath is common for them fatigue. I mean, they're student athletes. Of course, they're tired. You know, so a lot of these things, when you look at them individually, they're kind of benign and don't have a lot of meaning. But collectively, when you put this together and also with understand genetic risk factors, it tells a different story. And so we just want to be able to raise awareness so that hopefully, the next athlete has a different outcome than what happened to Bryce. Absolutely. Do you find yourself or did you find yourself when you heard about the University of Cincinnati kid or the New England Patriots player questioning? Why? Yep. Absolutely. Yeah, human nature, isn't it? Yeah, absolutely. Why? You know, why did God choose to save them? And he didn't choose to save Bryce? Yeah. You know, and everybody tells me, those are those are questions that you'll get the answer to when you get to heaven. And I'm going to be honest with you, Dan, when I get to heaven, I don't need the answer to those questions because there's going to be Jesus and there's going to be Bryce and that's all I need. I love it. Absolutely love it. That's all I need. Well, thank you. I did want to share with you. Yeah. The boys on the team will tell you that Bryce's motto was always live life like it's third Nate. So Bryce was a defensive tackle. So obviously third Nate is passing down, right? So basically what that means is go for it. You know, always go hard. So I wanted to share with you my favorite Bible verse to describe Bryce. And to me, it's Colossians 3 23. And I shared this on Facebook the other day, but it's whatever you do, work out it with all your heart as for working for the Lord and not for man. And to me, that's the translation of live life like it's third Nate. Yeah. And when you have that perspective that everything you're doing is for God and for his glory, it changes the way you go about things. And that's who he was as a person. That's who he was as a player. And I get the sense that moving forward, that's who the two of you are now in in awareness and everything else to make sure that that Bryce's memory stays alive and you could do whatever you can do to help other people. Am I reading you right? Oh, yeah. Absolutely. We try to honestly, we try to funnel a lot of people towards Furman because Furman is such a great place. And Bryce wanted to be there, loved it there. We tell athletes and people that are not athletes, that they need to send their kids to Furman, look what they did for us and how they've treated us and what they've done. We've even had people send us a letter and reach out to us and say that because of everything that's happened at Furman, that they have relatives that are thinking about one to Furman because of everything there. Because they want to be valued as an individual and as a student and not just as a number at a large university. So they see how Furman has loved us through this and walked through this every moment with us. And it's just, it's an amazing story. It truly is. It's incredible what Furman continues to do for us. So for us, Furman was everything to Bryce. Bryce had a lot of accolades that he earned in his short life. He really did. But the thing he was most proud of was being a Furman Paladin. That's it. That's what meant everything to him. For him, Furman was a unique opportunity where he could excel as a student. They have rigorous and prestigious academics and he could win championships on the football field. And he could make meaningful contributions to the youth in the community that were around him. So this is why Furman was home to him. It had everything that made him happy. So for us, the most meaningful way that people can support us or remember Bryce is to support Furman. That's what Bryce would want. And we want more student athletes to have the opportunity to be like Bryce. Yeah, absolutely. And one of the ways that the many ways that the athletic department to school is working to keep his memory alive is through Bryce's book buddies, which they had the the collection at the game on Saturday night. And just so many different things. So many different things. And I think they gathered what? Over 2,000 books or 3,000 books? Yeah, it started a little bit before then. But we're up over 2,000 books. And then there's a website that should be launching soon where you can continue to donate books. There's also a Venmo and an Amazon book list where people can donate that way too. So supporting Bryce's book buddies is a fabulous way to remember Bryce. Also supporting the Heller service core men or women of distinction. That was a program that was dear to Bryce's heart. He loved spending time with those middle school kids and just being a friend to them, a friend in a role model. So those are two great organizations that we'd like to see the success in those organizations continue. What is the future hold for you two? Or do you allow yourself to look ahead? Is it still going to be one day at a time for a long time? Yeah, it's one day at a time. Yeah, some some days, it's one minute at a time. We can't really think of anything long term because, I mean, honestly, the truth is every night, when we say our prayers at night, we pray that Jesus will come the next day. That's what we pray for. We're ready for the rapture. We pray that Jesus is coming. And then the next day, when he doesn't come, we pray again, okay, well, it didn't happen today, but maybe it can be tomorrow. So that's our greatest hope right there. But in the meantime, we've got support from our Furman family that's kind of keeping us going in the interim there. They're just kind of getting us from one day to the next. Well, I think about what the Apostle Paul wrote when he asked God three times to remove the thorn in the flesh. And we don't know what that thorn was. And I think there's a reason. So we couldn't pigeonhole it as he was just talking about this. But God said, no, Jesus said, no, my grace is sufficient for you. And he gives us enough grace to get through one day. He doesn't give us tomorrow's grace today. He gives us enough grace to get through today. And then tomorrow, you'll get that day's grace and then the next day's grace. And that's the way that's the way the Christian life works. And you don't think about that often enough, I think, unfortunately, until things like this happen. But man, aren't you thankful for that grace? Yeah, but aren't you thankful for that grace? I think so. I think so. It just gets us going one day at a time. Is there anything else? I know I know you've got some stuff written down. I can see you looking over on your little cheat sheet over there. Is there is there anything else that we haven't talked about that that you want people to know about price about about firm and about you guys? I mean, this is an open forum for you. Oh, I'm sure there's tons of stuff, but you know, it would take hours. Yeah, it would. I think I think the most important thing is that we wanted to take this opportunity just to say thank you. To say thank you to Furman, to the Furman community, to Greenville, to everyone who has just just come together to support us and rally around us and just to show us love through this time, we feel the waves of prayer. And I just hope that, you know, if you've never had a circumstance where you need to feel the waves of prayer, then consider yourself lucky. But if you ever do, there is nothing more powerful than that feeling that washes over you because you can truly feel the power, the power of prayers being said for you. We felt them for the last seven months. So we appreciate it. But we just wanted to say thank you. We want to say thank you to the leadership team at Furman, you know, because they are the ones who set a strong example through their own actions. They lead with heart and they foster an environment of respect and care. And I think I've mentioned these people already, but I just want to specifically say thank you to President Davis, Jason Donnelly, Clay and Lee Ann Hendricks, Rob Carson, Jason Cassidy, Duane and Kristi Vaughn, Andre and Caitlin Bernardi, Kevin Lewis and yourself, Dan, because the support that you guys give to us has just been incredible. It really has. You've been our source of strength when we have no strength for ourselves. You know, you guys know what we need when we can't put it into words. Just on Saturday, you know, President Davis, you know, asked me, how does it feel? How does it feel to be back here? And I just was overwhelmed with emotions and I just couldn't find the right word. And she said to me, she put her hand on my arm and she said, I know it feels like home. And I said, that's absolutely right. It feels like home because home doesn't feel like home to us anymore. Home's kind of quiet and empty. But when we go to Furman, we feel Bryce's presence and we feel loved and we feel his love and we feel so much love for him. And it's just so easy for us to understand why he loved Furman and loved Greenville so much. So we're just grateful. We're grateful for all of you. And we're grateful that Bryce had these amazing role models in his life because, you know, Bryce was able to become the incredible young man that he was because he had a great college experience that builds men of character. That was a great place to end what was in total about an hour and 14 hour and 15 minute recorded conversation. And quite honestly, could have gone on a lot longer, but I was trying as hard as I could to be very respectful of Fred and Terry's time. But to me, hearing the way that Jesus has lifted them and how much more now they are focused on on heaven and hearing about all of the mentors and even in this crazy world we live in. It's just a reminder that God always has his people, the right people in the right place at the right time to make the right kind of impact and just the way that that Terry closed out our conversation. They're talking about the incredible mentors in Bryce's life. We are all, I think, in that same boat where if we look back on our lives, there are mentors who have poured into us. I know in my personal life, there have been several since I got saved as three men in particular. I've talked about on this program a number of times at my church going back, you know, over 12 years ago now, Don Harper, Danny Rhodes and Jim Hayes, the way that they in particular poured into me, a lot of men had an impact on me. But the way those three poured into me and then of course, my dad, we go to a men's prayer breakfast at our church every Tuesday morning. And this week, the devotion was about standing on the shoulders of giants, the people who have made an impact on us and helped build the foundation that we have. And there's no more solid foundation in my life that was built than the one that my dad laid down. And losing him three months ago, a little over three months ago has been, it's been hard. It really has. But as I've gotten into some of his stuff and helped my mom clean out his room a couple of weeks ago and just going through and looking at what this man dedicated his life to, it's just a reminder that that we all have those people in our lives. We all stand on the shoulders of someone. And what's really cool in the future in the midst of the tragedy right now is if you paid attention to what Fred and Terry have said in the last couple of weeks, in 21 short years, Bryce Stanfield laid a foundation both inside and outside of the Furman University football program. And the people he impacted are eventually many of them going to be standing on his shoulders because of that foundation, because of how he poured into them. And it just goes to show that you don't have to be old and wise quote, unquote, to be a giant on which somebody else can stand. I just thought that was an interesting way that God kind of brought all of that together this week as we close out this two part interview with Fred and Terry Stanfield. We'll be back to put a wrap on this week's show in just a moment. Teenage boys and young men today are in crisis. Statistics show that a home without a father or male role model present is the single biggest indicator of poverty, behavior issues, drug and alcohol abuse, criminal activity, and yes imprisonment. At Grand Slam Ministries, one of our core missions is developing a mentorship program to teach boys how to become strong Christian men and then teach those men to be the biblical husband's fathers and church community leaders the Bible calls us to be. We need your prayers, we need your ideas, and we need your support. Visit our website Grand Slam Ministries dot org to find out more about our mentorship mission and prayerfully consider how you may be able to assist us. Again that website is Grand Slam Ministries dot org. [Music] Want to see a listing of our affiliates? Check out videos or listen to past shows and explore our archives? It's all available at our website danscotchow.org and now back to the show. [Music] The final segment of this week's show, it is hard to believe. Another week is gone by episode 91 coming to a close. Next week, we will hear from a gentleman by the name of David Irey who was a very highly acclaimed high school baseball player back in 1989 when he made a fateful decision to slide headfirst into home plate during a game that year and ever since has been in a wheelchair. But what God is doing through his life is something only God could do so David Irey will be our guest on next week's program. I want to thank Fred and Terry Stanfield again for their willingness to share their heart with us and if you remember from last week when we recorded the program we did it on the seventh month anniversary of Bryce's passing. And yet as I mentioned then and I will reiterate now I came away from the conversation being encouraged. That's just the kind of people they are and as someone who as you know has gone through quite a bit of family tragedy of my own in the last seven or eight months. I just don't see how people who don't have Christ as their anchor get through it. Fred and Terry have a long, long way to go. But it's easy to see where they have put their trust and because of that they'll never get over it. But I firmly believe they will get through it and Bryce's legacy is going to end up affecting so many people because of the way Fred and Terry Stanfield are handling this. Listen that's all the time we've got. Thank you so much for your attention. If you'd like to find out more about us again Dan Scott Show dot org consider helping us out financially folks radio time is not free. And we would love to be able to continue to bring you this and expand what we're doing as well as get into our core missions a little more deeply. As we close it out, here's some information about how you can do that. I'm Dan. God bless you so long everybody. Thank you for listening to this week's Dan Scott Show. Here it again. Catch up on past shows or find out more about Grand Slam Ministries. Please visit our website DanScottShow.org. 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