1973 Podcast
1973 Podcast Episode 88
at your mom's favorite podcast the 1973 podcast we got a special guest this week. We've been trying to get him on for a while. As everybody think to mom twist in recent some palms. - Yeah, it costs me an arm in the lab. That's able to negotiate. (laughing) - That's it. - Raymond has checked in. (laughing) - Right before we get going. I don't know if it's going to be good. Ray before we get going, tell everybody on the podcast and everybody watching at home how we know each other and how you know a couple guys on the podcast and maybe a quick little more story on the old hooker room. - Yeah, probably the oldest is you and I as far as going back. East Behaving School, East Behaving, and with home growing up. One of the first people I played hockey with was with you. And then I left East Behaving School. I came back and we ended up back together in fifth grade with Miss Messia. And yeah, and it was always talking that drew us back together, you know? - Ray, a little quick back story on the old hooker room. - Yes, oh, what happened? Oh, I was electrocuted. I was electrocuted, yeah, 14,800 volts. When in my hands and on my foot. - Hey, sorry, Ray, we'll probably get to that, you know, a little bit to pieces, but I'm glad to have you on and-- - Thank you. - And again, I'm sorry I took so long to get here. - Yeah, here now. So we're just looking for a bubbly personality and maybe a story about electricity every now and then. - Okay, it'll be shocking, I promise. (laughing) - Here's an electric personality. - Very good, Brad finished. - He's always getting banned on the face. - I applaud that. (laughing) - It's not five, buddy. - Before we get going too, I'm gonna wish a member in the podcast, he's not 50. Chaggy, happy birthday. Today's the birthday, so my look at that. Get that party started. I thought it was a buster. - Today's birthday. - Today's birthday. - You're old buster, boys. - Damn. - I got my own rocks. - You went big for the birthday. - So Ed, before we get going with the email, I watched her explain, we touched on it last week and was a little bit, he was a little bit, you know, something was going on last week, it was a little bit upset. - Edel's bitch. (laughing) - Stop being a bitch and talk about the billboard. - Well, I mean, so this has been under construction behind me for quite some time. Finally, through the miracles of modern technology, I was finally come to fruition. So the space behind me is for rent. - Oh my God. - How much money is finding Gary Putman's views? (laughing) - I mean, if it's Gary, then he better be coming with at least six serves at the end of a number, you know? - How much are we charging? - The people that want that space, they just give us a view, a like and a subscribe. - Yeah, or 25 bucks a week, depending on who you are. (laughing) - The price of an only trans membership, you can rent space behind Edel's hands. (laughing) - I don't know, Ed might have to show his feet or some skin or something. - Edel's bills, yep, yep, whatever takes this thing to the next level, then maybe-- - They might have to show the backside of his ball sack for 25 a month. (laughing) - Hey, you guys like, get me out, like I'm a little bit older than that, you know? (laughing) - Okay, let's ball here. - Yeah, trim it up, get a shave. - Yup, yup, you can only see the front, you can never see the back. - Shaving a haircut, buddy, come on. - Ed, take the weight. - All right, hey there podcast fans, you ready to show up the look for the 1973 podcast? We've got over 20 different designs of t-shirts and hoodies, kind of essence of classic stuff. Whether you're a fan of a show or just love that retro fuel, we've got something for everyone. (laughing) Sorry, all right, we're apart from-- - That was like the rate of flea market. - For some of us, you're a favorite person, please, each piece is made with top notch quality and timeless style Ukraine. Perfect for lounging around the house, we're making a statement out and about. And don't wait, our collection is flying off the shelves, fastening your shirt, don't be cheap, buy the shirt. This now at bonfire.com. And grab your favorites before they're gone. And the 1973 t-shirt store on YouTube, just click the link below. All right, I mean, if we wouldn't get copyright infringement from Sharon, we could be playing some Aussie in the background here for changes. But we don't have that kind of budget. So this, and I referenced that for a reason. So this is from James from MB Wales, okay? So changes. Hello, 1973, question three, guys. If you go back and start out over again, what would you do different? Just find your podcast and I think you guys do a great job. Pretty funny group, very annotated. - Positive email, Ed. Not like the one we got two weeks ago. (laughing) - What's that now? - A positive email, not like the one we got two-- - I mean, it was very positive. I mean, you know, from across the pond, I mean, it was nice to get some positive feedback, yeah. - That's Wales Mass Pusek? - No, okay. - So I want to start with Ed, 'cause Ed never really starts off the email answer, but Ed, you've been here since the start. So if you could go back and change anything, what would you go back and change? - You're learning to get better. So I really wouldn't want to change everything. And I really like the fact that we've been having like, a lot of our friends come on as guest appearances and that type of thing. And it's been great. It's been great to kind of reconnect with everybody. You know, break each other's balls every now and again. You know, I always seem to be the brunt of the joke, but I can take it, 'cause, you know, I can take it. You know, a lot of these other people here on the panel, and they get a little sensitive, you can turn it around, or just saying, you know? So I kind of, I keep my mouth shut, you know? I could fire it back, but I don't, because I always tend to hurt people's feelings when I do. - Well Eddie, I haven't scared anybody away yet. I'm like, I'm like, I'm a proof of life. They're being signed this very moment. I can't wait to get them and rough that shit on this podcast is gonna be legit. - Like the t-shirt, right? - Like the t-shirt. - Hey dude, ironically, I think I bought this the day before Gerald Jones died. I was like, oh, we got a "Star Wars" shirt. Bye, next day, James Earl Jones died. I was like, oh, fuck me. - Brad Finn, I wanna ask you, since you've come on the podcast, what would you change since you've started? - I like our format. I like the, I don't know, I'm in Mississippi, guys. I don't fucking know. I don't have a vocabulary down here. We do a lot. We have a temp wall hat, cooking with Chris. We do some sports talks. I think we get a little long. We need some times when we get deep in the sports stuff. And I love, but I love that we taught wrestling sports. We got a round table. People don't like it when we're talking pics or they don't like it when you guys talk hockey. Fast forward to the parts you like, 'cause we got plenty of options in the hours. - You're gonna need to stop talking about yourself about the hockey part. - I mean, yeah, when I watch back on my hockey, but I will say this, since the calories suck at me, you're working on me jumping on this Dallas starter bag. - There you go. There you go. - I need something to go ahead. - I need something to go ahead. - I need something to bounce right now. - Hey, listen, I could throw a bunch of stuff out. There's a lot of things that I really love about the podcast, the thing I love the most is just being with the guys, chirping, getting some good bands to go and laughing. Especially, I get a kick out of it when somebody plops me and makes me laugh. You know, like a couple weeks ago with then reading that email, I was roaring. You know, there's just these little subtle things that, you know, make me laugh. I don't laugh any harder than on the podcast most of the time, especially when somebody comes up with something other. And I try right from the rip to get everybody on. And, you know, I know everybody's schedule is different, but it's fun just to get together on a Saturday night, especially in the winter time when things start to slow down. And it will not really socially for me, but socially on this. It's great to get everybody together, see the faces. And hopefully around that 100th episode, we'll be able to get everybody on for one big laugh fest and do like another best of. And hopefully Shaggy and the Phantom and Ray, they'll have some more episodes that they've been on. And we can talk about favorite moments like we always do at the anniversaries. And then from episode 100 on, we'll probably just do it at 200 or 150 and kind of make those anniversary episodes more, you know, spread out and go from there. But, you know, we're working on 100 episodes. It's gonna be great. I'm gonna go to the professor who is the voice of reason, the stats guy, Thomas changes. What would you do? - Well, first, my spidey sense is kind of tingled when I this email because James doesn't know how to spell whales. So I'm having a little bit of doubt on whether or not this email actually came from whales or not, but I'll give him the button for the doubt. But I guess changing anything, I think I piggyback off what you said and just have the whole crew hear from the beginning. - Yeah, I agree. I'll just ask the fandom real quick, since you've been on Brank with any changes you would make? - No, I don't think I change anything to be honest. I don't know if everybody knows or when you guys were first coming up with a concept, it was like, you guys asked me to be, that was gonna be the four of us. And I was like, the one who was like, "I don't do it, I ain't doing that crazy." So, you know, the three ended up going on and doing it without me, which was fine. But because I didn't do it, then you know, you added Brad and you added Chris and who knows, the whole show might be different if I had joined and it would maybe it would just be just the four of us and we would never have told the point where it is now. So, I wanna change the thing. - So, see, one dollar closes, another one opens. - That's terrifying. - Yeah, yeah. - That's terrifying that you said that, Phantom. That's terrifying. - Cowboys fan violence. Look at that, speaking of Cowboys fans. - Cowboy, cowboy violence, wow. - Somebody else on this podcast, I remember as a Cowboys fan. Could you raise your hand? Raymond. - Raise your hand. - Yeah, since 1978, I've seen him good, bad, good, bad, good, and my personal opinion, the only thing that's gonna help them is Jerry Jonesy, the selling the team are just all out dying serious because he tries to do everything. My opinion, I think he's smart enough. You know, he's trying to run it. People can say what they want about Bill Belichick and the Patriots, but I don't know, I don't know, his bill of check craft is, he bought the team as a fan, had a shitload of money, like everybody do what they did, and he just sent his sign of checks. You know, that's in my opinion, you know, what their owners should do. And Jerry Jonesy screwing him right into the ground. - I heard Jerry Jones is a big podcast, I think. - Yeah, he tuned in last week. - Yeah, we'd love to have you on. - Jerry Jonesy, Jerry Jonesy, my number. - The difference between Jerry and Robert Krafto is Jerry has a son, and there is a bloodline to inherit and continue the bullshit. - Krafto has a son. - As far as I know, he has the kid. - There's a lot of kids. - But they're not involved with the team, right? - Yeah, yeah. - Are they all? - The son sits next to him every game. - Take out white blinders. - Yeah, they're screwed. I mean, Steven Jones is the one making all these executive decisions trading a Mario Cooper for a fifth round draft pick. Now Steven Jones, so that, you know, if Krafto has got the same bloodline issues, yeah, both teams are screwed. - Let's, before we get into the sport stock, as we're segueing into, let's, we're gonna stop with this email, great email and talk Vince McMahon episode three. So, this is the timeline between the steroid trial and the bread hot screw job. Kind of, this is right before the boom again of the Vince McMahon, Mr. McMahon character, kind of bleated out of this. I'm gonna go to the Phantom thoughts on the Vince McMahon episode three. - I mean, once again, it kind of rolls into what we've been saying for the first two. Not a whole hell of a lot that we didn't already know. It's more of, let's go back in history. Maybe you kind of forgot about something that you hadn't really thought about. And then, you know, maybe you get some thoughts off of it. Like, I kind of like when they were talking about like, they didn't like the curtain call. And with, you know, Triple H is the only one you're not gonna touch on Michaels because he's the champion. The other two guys are leaving, so it all falls on Triple H to eat shit or, you know, what have you. But from that, the fallout from that was, he was supposed to win that King of the Ring. Now, if that doesn't happen, now Austin ends up winning King of the Ring and he goes on to have, you know, the famous promo of the 316 and all that. So if, if that hadn't happened, who knows if we end up with the Austin 316, 'cause that kind of was, you know, got him off in the trajectory there. - Raymond, I'm gonna go to you. I had mentioned that we were gonna kind of review the Vince McMahon stuff. - And I actually forgot to watch it, honestly. - Attaboy. Attaboy. I knew I'd bring your own friend. - A lore in the bar, right up the bat. - He fits right in with the rest of us. (both laughing) - I just want to ask you, thoughts on old school wrestling Vince McMahon. Just what do you-- - Oh, I love the old school. - '80s, '80s, '90s, and then after that, to be honest, I just sort of lost interest. - Vince McMahon has a character, though. What do you think of Vince McMahon as a person with all this stuff that's come out about him? - It's got a lot of money to cover everything up for one, which you know, you know, it's gonna end up coming down to if, if anything, probably you'll find, you know, but. - Thomas, thoughts on episode three? - There's, like Ryan said, there wasn't much didn't know about that they came out with, but one thing I didn't realize was the reason he stopped doing the billionaire Ted Skitz was because the woman who was the founder of USA Network was friends with Ted Turner and told him to stop. But, and I didn't know that he had asked Nash and Hall to get in the Skitz and they said no, and it turns out, you know, they didn't really talk, say why, but you know the reason they didn't was because they knew they were leaving. But the only other thing that was really, kinda, I didn't realize was that Bischoff had auditioned for the WWF and go into the what ifs, what if they had signed them, I mean, with WCW have ever had that streak that they did with what was it, 86 weeks or some ridiculous number of weeks they beat them in the ratings. So, that was one of the two things I took away plus. Well, actually no, the one big thing that I was, how much of a hypocrite McMahon is with whining about Ted Turner stealing all the talent when, that's all he did in the 80s stealing guys that he looked bad on that one. - Yeah, you did. Shaggy thoughts on the episode. - Yeah, I'm going back to the Windy Richter Spider match. I think fellas move to our master whole career. She looks like a goddamn former tied to the back of a tractor plucked a few with her face. - Jesus. - Hey, I watched that dark side of the ring. She's a friggin' madam in a whorehouse. She's really using all those poor little wrestlers. She's a horrible person. - Damn. I don't know if I've seen that episode. I mean, old times were just talking to a lot of shoots. (laughing) - No, baby, spit it out. - Brad Finn thoughts on episode three. - What? - Yeah, he's making, no, no, that's, that's his third one since we started. (laughing) - Happy birthday. - We're almost at the, what do you got, Brad? - A back of the day. - Not a lot that we haven't seen in the dark side. Not a lot that we haven't seen and who killed WCW. I did make the boy sit down and watch the Montreal screw job. I was like, look, dude, there's a lot of wrestling history. We can't continue to be this wrestling family if you don't know the Montreal screw job. So I made him watch this as Bret Hart. Here's a Hart Foundation, here's Owen Hart. He fell from the rafters, he died, it was sad. So I'm not hearing he knew about that. I guess YouTube, but I was like, look man, and this was a very controversial match. But watching it back on this one, I used to always kind of like side with Bret on this one, on that. But watching it back and hearing Bret bitch and complain about it, and then seeing Vince aside and then getting spent in the face, I'm like, wait a minute. Bret Hart's kind of a dick, you were leaving. Why can't I put Sean over, give him the title. Vince literally told you to like, the part I didn't know is Vince sat him down and was like, look, here's every loophole in your contract. I'm gonna, I'm literally, I'm gonna lay it out. Take all of this to WCW and get your payday, like Hogan, a macho man, and everyone else did. He hooked the boy up. And all I had to do was drop the title. And he fucking actin' like that. I don't know, man. So I got some feelings about it, but for the most part, I'm waiting for some bomb show. Vince McMahon should have dropped. I was really excited for this documentary and it's not delivered. This stuff I already know, man. And I'm not even in the weeds like you guys were, or are, you know what I mean? So if it's stuff, I know it's surface level. It's not delivering. So I don't know, kind of disappointed in this episode. I fast forwarded through like half of it. - Shaggy, how do you handle it? - Yeah, as I said, I believe the one stipulation Bret had was I'll lose it. I'll lose it, just not in Canada. - Yeah, he didn't wanna lose it. - Don't do it in Canada. Where you go to India? - Yeah. - Wherever I'll lose it, that's fine, but... - Yeah, you know what? I don't care. That's, and the other part I didn't, that was news to me being, yeah, I guess I'm the youngest wrestling fan on here, was the curtain call. I didn't know about that. I don't know, my point in life, I missed that, but that was basically the death of K-Fade. And I'm kind of pissed about it, to be honest. Like, watching it now, and Undertaker's the only one who's like, "No, that shit was fucked up. "They shouldn't have done that." And now seeing solo secoa help up Granny on an airplane, Jacob Fatou give his T-shirt to a crying little girl in the parking lot, I'm like, "Yeah, we need K-Fade back." That wrestling is suffering because we don't have K-Fade. We have baby faces, we have heels. A heel should be a heel on an off-screen period. Don't be the white six and then go to the fucking Waffle House the next night. - I agree. - Sorry. I have feelings about it. - Brad, it's all this stuff I've been talking about for a while. I mean, it's like, you know, it's like the Lone Ranger shooting Indians back in the day with bank robbers and all of a sudden after they keep the camera roll so that he can help them up and say, "Look, it's all, we were just acting." It's so, just don't pull that veil away. Just leave. - No. - Yeah. - Not a fain. - No fain. - Don't be asking him ducking and caught doing coke with air and she can get back for a limo. - Yeah, go back to those days. Steroids and cocaine-- - Here's the rental car. - Wrestling better? - Oh, my bad. I don't car, my bad. - I'm gonna go to Ed. Ed, thoughts on episode three. - All right, look, I didn't watch it, but just bottom line this is said. There's nothing that they're putting on this that's gonna be anything new 'cause they can't. They're going to court with this stuff. So the thing is, it's like, you can't do it. So they're just repackaging it and everything like that in the six episodes and it's not gonna be anything that you don't, anywhere that has one toe into being a wrestling fan from the beginning of the 80s, from the rise of the WWF, then to the WWE attitude error and then all that stuff. I mean, it's not the new end to a raise point. Look, I mean, everybody that has money, they make things disappear. It's part of the game. You know, that's how they got to that point, you know? - All additions. - Yeah, they even talked about the, Jimmy's look at thing for a minute. And then when they talked to Wendy Richter, the thing that I thought was funny was when she didn't know that that was quite a lady was probably a smoothie. You can't miss that build coming out. (laughing) I mean, most of the time that that's quite a lady was in the WWE, I believe it was Judy Martin. And Judy Martin looks nothing like fabulous mola. So I mean, screw job, the referee counted three and it was awful. I mean, that whole story is so bad. It's just bad all the way around. But they put Wendy Richter in the Hall of Fame 'cause of Triple H and kind of made amends with that. And I guess that's the, you know, the silver lining at the end of that story. But the question with Randy Richter is they wanted to sign a new deal and she didn't, you know, agree to the money that they were offering her. And she wanted to be, she thought she was the female Hulk Hogan. I can't agree with that. I mean, the type of merchandise and things that Hogan was doing back then, not even close. Not even close. - Funny, famous mola, everybody. - How they buried Luger with the talking about him trying to replace Hogan and they were like, well, he wasn't even close. - Yeah. I mean, the hindsight with the story is always funny because of, they didn't talk to him either in this. I would have liked to have heard his side of it too. You know, if they brought him in and promised him stuff and, you know, he's still alive. That's a great person for that segment that they could have used. So. - He's a show of human being or what it used to be too. - Oh, yeah. - Oh, yeah. - Oh, yeah. - He's drugs bad. (laughing) - Yeah. And the Elizabeth thing, which, which is a whole doc side of the ring. So Thomas segway away from the wrestling and get into some shitty pics. - All right. - Tom shitty pics has brought to you by Brock Street Broome Company, located at 244 Brock Street South in Whitby, Ontario. Everything is brewed in house, including their hard iced teas, their vodka sodas, their beers and their hard seltzers. So if you're in the Whitby area, go check them out and tell them the 1973 podcast sent ya. All I can say is this week here, I'm glad I took the game I did because I did win. I took Tennessee over Alabama. - No. - Texas, I thought it was too easy. Texas over Georgia and right now, Georgia's laying a whooping on Texas. It's 23, nothing a half time. It might be time for arch manning to come into the game for Texas at. - Yep, arch madness. Let's go. - But this coming week here, there's some more good games. There's 19 Missouri versus Alabama, Illinois's playing Oregon, but the game I'm going with is LSU versus Texas A&M. It's number eight versus number nine. I'm gonna go with Texas A&M. I mean, they're so close. It's not really an upset, but I'm going with Texas A&M. They're playing at home and they impressed me a couple weeks ago when they beat, I think it was Missouri, pretty handily. So that's who I'm going with this week. - Thomas, you wanna talk about the NFL news before you get into the picks? - Yeah, there was a couple trades. I wanna see what the guys thought who they think made out between the two trades, who got the better of the wide receivers. It's Davante Adams got traded, a little, everybody knew he was gonna go there, but he got traded to the Jets for I think it was a conditional third round pick, which could go into a second round pick, depending on his stats. And Amari Cooper got traded from Cleveland to the Buffalo. There was a couple of picks involved in that one as well. I think it was a third round pick Cleveland ended up getting, but they also gave Buffalo, I think a sixth round pick. So I wanna see what the guys thought about those deals. - Faggot. - I was saying, I think the bills might be making out. I don't think Cooper would be a good pick. I see the Jetship as an executive team that's falling apart with a guy who's a head case. Like I don't see him working out too well. I know he's friends with Aaron Rodgers, but how far can that carry him? - Bradford. - The irony of Davante Adams getting traded from Green Bay to go play with the Raiders, to come back to the Jets to play with Aaron Rodgers. But I think that's a good move for him. I think it's a good move for Aaron Rodgers 'cause his receivers have proven to be pretty unreliable, except for Allen Lazar. He really needs somebody to catch the ball. I mean, Aaron Rodgers does a lot left, man. Like he's shown that, but if they can't win with Davante Adams, I think the problem's bigger than just firing the coach. I think he's giving off some of the Brown James vibes there in New York getting rid of staff and whatnot when it doesn't work out. But Amari Cooper, man, like you want to talk about a consummate professional teammate, somebody who is there for his team, his teammates for the organization. He is nothing but a consummate professional when it comes to his craft. He never, he doesn't do the diva shit. He never starts trouble. He shows up to work. He works his nine to five. He does what he's asked to and he's a great athlete, man. You never see emotion from him because he's reserved. That's not his personality type. He wasn't like that in Alabama. He's not like that in the pros. He shows up, he lets his game speak for him. He doesn't have to go speak to the media to get his points across. I love that they got a third round pick, even though the Cowboys got screwed and took a fifth round pick for him. I think the Cowboys gave up on him way before, 'cause he's been a stud in Cleveland, but also kind of points to what me and Ed talk about a lot. It's like these guys, you look at the life cycle in the shelf life of a pro NFL player. While I'd receive his bottle, I mean CD lamb and any other young receiver, hold out. Get your payday because before you know it, you're traded to the fucking Raiders until the problems were a fair round pick. And you're just yesterday's news, man. And before you know it, you're Ocho Senko or T.O. playing in the UFL or Canadian football league or arena football somewhere, still trying to pay your baby's mamas, 'cause you got a bunch of bills. So get your fucking payday, man. I'm not mad at him. I wish him our Cooper excels. I hope Devonta Adam shows out, you know? It's crazy NFL and the Cowboys have signed nobody. There's that. - Raymond, any thoughts on those trades? - None. - Good, I like that. And? - Oh, I mean, I'm at the Jets such a dumpster fire. God, it's so fun to watch. It really is. Like, you know what's gonna implode? Like, you fired your head coach, you know, who really is not the problem. And then, you know, you basically do what he wanted to do. And, you know, you demote, Nathaniel Hackett from being the OC. And then you bring in Devonta Adams. Like, that makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. You know, the thing about it is just like, look, these guys are a commodity, receivers are a commodity three and a half to four years maximum. If you can hang on to get that second contract, show me the money. I mean, the thing about it is that we all know the teams that, you know, that you go to that it's so sad nowadays to see what the Raiders have become. The Browns have always been the Browns and the Jets other than the years with Winston's face, with Parcells and with Ryan. I mean, they're a dumpster fire. And then a Mario Cooper, I mean, I can't, he never, he never showed anything when he was with the Cowboys. Never said anything with the Browns. And I bet you, you know, he's sitting there thinking of himself, man, I can't believe that I get out of that place. And I'm so thankful because Sean Watson is handcuffed that club, the Browns for the next four or five years. And they can't get out of it because they guarantee him the money. Phantom, one way in on those trades? Yeah, yeah, I mean, great moves for both teams really. They didn't really give up much. I, I think they're huge for Josh Allen to get Cooper because they, I mean, they never, they let, you know, they traded away digs. They thought they could get by with the young guys in and they really hasn't worked out. So that's a huge plus for them. You figured whether they got like a two game lead in the East. And then you look at the Jets and it's like, you got Adam to go Wilson Hall, like Hall. Defense is really, really good. So I mean, who knows? I mean, they could, they could actually really go on and run. They don't really have any holes other than probably head coach, which is, I mean, huge. They should, they should have put everything on its ear and grabbed a bell check back to Frank in New York out of in great, but they are, I mean, Adam's going there. Yeah, I mean, they're still one of the best of receivers in the league. I thought that Rogers were going to do something with Wilson, but he's kind of, I think he's kind of struggling to connect with a little bit with them. But they may trade him now. I think the Jets could make a close. I think they can push Buffalo as far as like my name in Japan, so they should be a two team race for the rest of the season. All right, Thomas, let's get into some picks. One more thing on the whole, with the Jets, with Nathaniel Hackett, I don't know if you guys saw what they actually demoted him. His new job is writing the play cards out for the coaches, for the game. He's got, they gave him the plays and he has to write them and hand them out to all the coaches and to, but that's just shows these rogers with boys. So instead of firing them, to keep Rogers happy, they gave him a minuscule job, but hey, he's still getting paid. All right, you want to get into the picks, AC? Yeah, let's, let's get into the picks. All right. Hey, Todd, we always try the picks. I'd like to know, what was the record for everybody last week? We have, we have to change somebody's name from the month of the South to Mr. Perfect, because our man Ed went 14 and O this past week. We all had good weeks, but he went 14 and O. So let me go and reckon to say that, everybody thinks we'd pick on Ed. And Ed, Ed had his towel out. He had a lousy week last week. He was whole hominin' it on the podcast. We got to give him his props this week. Went perfect for the week, first time that month. That's why Brad wants to shorten the picks, 'cause he doesn't want to have Ed go another perfect week. No, we picked the same amount, right? We just sent Tom the rest of them, but maybe instead of going through how many games this week, Todd? 15. That's a lot. And seven people, that's a lot. That's all I'm saying. I think somebody just wants more time for their conspiracy, but that's okay. Ah, yeah, one more screen time. Wait, wait, wait, and there is a conspiracy then. Yes. That's the conspiracy. So we're gonna go with five games this week. Ray, if you're more than welcome, if you want to make picks, we're not, you're no due point spread, we just pick a winner of the game. I don't know how, and I feel a guy you are, I know you're a hockey guy, but it's up to you. I'll go with game one Cincinnati Bengals at home against the Philadelphia Eagles, Andy. How am I doing so far on these picks? You are in second place, you're tied with Ed. Brad, by the way, Brad is 62 and 30. Ed and Andy are both 60 and 32. Am I right? No, you're two games out. Oh yeah, yeah, I'm sorry, you are in first. All right, the rest of the rankings don't matter, boy. We're gonna care about the number one. And then that's Ryan and myself. We're both 55 and 37 and Shaggy's 46 and 30 buddies. Missed a couple of weeks. Oh, and one week. One week, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. You feel a little credit? Very little. A birthday boy, I mean, you know, you want to get smacked 49 times? All right, AC Cincinnati and Philly. I will take Susanna Haas' favorite team, the Cincinnati Bengals. All righty, much, Shaggy. Give me a key state. All righty. Brad? I'm gonna pick Cincinnati, not because Andy did. Because I think there's some games with you going on over here. There's a real possibility that they're on the up and Philly's on the down. So I'm gonna pick Cincinnati. I'm not one of these betting guys. Like some of these MS on this thing, but I'm gonna call bullshit because this fucking guy is in first place. All of a sudden, now he doesn't want to do the picks. We've been doing it all last year. I'm just cycling them along and he's telling friends. All right, do all 15 picks then? Do all 15 games. Oh, no, no. Was there for an hour and a half, two hours, going through seven guys and 15 games? Do I hear from other 10 games I didn't pick on this thing? I said it to the fucking homework. Hey, we still got to pick the other 10 games. We're only doing a five. Homework? The other 10 still got to be sent to Tom. We're at, we're at a hoodie. Wait, this is when Ed should say, Brad, stop being a bitch. (laughing) All right, Ray, who'd you? That upset he's with me. So you can go with Philly. All righty. Mr. Branko. Ah, give me the Eagles. All righty. Ed? Philly's pretty close to starting a dumpster fire, but I'm gonna go with Philly anyway. Yeah. I don't know if you guys saw after the game the other day, but Nick Serriani got into it with the fans after the game. So I think the pressure's starting to get to him in Philly, but I'm going with Philly in this game because Cincinnati's defense is horrible. Next game, I'm gonna pick the Tampa Bay fucking ears against the Atlanta Falcons, Andy. I'm gonna do damage control with Brad and I'm gonna pick Tam Pawn Bay. All right. Shaggy. You wanna go to Bradford so you can piggyback one? Next game, I'm gonna pick Brad first before Andy can see. I'll take Santa. Okay. Brad. All right. I'm not picking them because Andy picked home. They're playing at home. They're both four and two. This is gonna be probably one of the best games of the week. I'm going with Tam Pawn Bay, but not because Andy did. Wait a minute. I'm gonna tell you why it takes a long to do these picks because Brad has to give like the back of a freaking menu of why he's making his pick. He just can't say Tam Pawn Bay. I can't. I got shaggy over here doing this on the camera. Hey, don't blame me. Say the name and roll on. I have to explain it. Hey, let's fucking go. We're from the North. Make it fast. All right. He got burbles over here. He's doing all this. I can't just come on, man. Ray, will you got Tampa Bay or Atlanta? Yeah, Tampa. Going with Tampa. All right. Ryan. I got sidetracked by Brad, if God was playing. Tampa Bay and Atlanta. Give me a hot Atlanta. All righty. Ed. 605 with TBS, please. All righty. What the fuck is that even mean? Yeah, seriously. 1973 podcast, bro. Fuck up. You're going to like it. The fuck is 605 and 1982 broadcast? What does 605 mean? I think it's so far from TBS. It's called Atlanta, bro. Oh. I didn't know that. I'm going with Tampa Bay in that game, too. I mean, it's funny how that schedule works. I think these guys played like two weeks ago. And there are each other again. Brad, you're excused from making a comment. Shaggy, I'm really disappointed in you, man. You should know better than that. You know they land a fucking area code. It's the time the WCW used to go on TBS, man. You should know better than that. Shaggy is perfect all the way up. You know this, all right, 13 Seattle Seahawks versus the Buffalo Bills in Seattle. Andy. Oh, no, no, don't let that don't pick Brad. You're picked. Oh, my pick. That's right. The fuck. I don't. Zoopas. No, my Buffalo. All righty. Andy. Well, just because I'm not doing it because Brad, don't do it. But I say I'm going to go with Buffalo. First of all, that sounds just like me. Zaggy. Well, let me draw this out a little longer so I can fit in with other people here. And I guess I'll go with Seattle. What? Didn't draw it out at all. All right, I'm going to go with the bills. All righty. Phantom. I'm going my Buffalo. All righty. Ed. I'm going to go with Buffalo and also Shaggy for the record area code for Atlanta is 404. I'm going with Buffalo as well. I think they're going to go on a roll now with Cooper in there. Next game could be a really good game. Washington commanders at home against the Chicago Bears. Brad. Oh, Washington 100% already Andy, just like Brad. I'm going commando. All righty, Shaggy Redskins and why do you know fucking a lens to area code? Holy shit. All righty. Phantom. Because I look pretty close to it. That's why I'm going to be as I think we're going to be. Yep. All righty. Ed. I'm going to go with the commanders. All right, I'm going to go with Chicago in this game. I agree with Ryan. I think their defense is a little better. Next game, the final game. And just for Brad, I'm picking Dallas's game don't San Francisco 49ers at home against the Dallas Cowboys, Brad. Why are you making me do this, man? Don't because I don't even have the top five games. Why are you making me do this? Huh? Is I want to hear it? Come on, Brad, do it. I want to maintain in my lead. I'm going to say San Francisco, man, the Cowboys are an absolute shit show right now. And I cannot support this bullshit anymore. I can't fucking do it, man. Can't do it. Andy, I will take Rob Howlford's favorite football team, the 49ers. All righty, Shaggy, I will take Dwight Clark and the catch 49ers. That hurts, buddy. Right. I'm going to go with the 49ers. All righty. Phantom. How far? How far back am I? Six games. Six games. I fucked up 49ers. We can turn them all. All the Cowboys fans have turned. And 49ers. Yeah. Clean suite for the panel. I'm going with 49ers as well. So, AC, that's it. So before we wrap up at the sports talk, I want to talk about the passionate of Louisville. I'm going to talk about the passing of Louis Tien for you, Red Sox fans out there. Shaggy, rocking the Louis Tien shirt. I'm going to go to the professor, and I want to hear thoughts on the passing of Louis Tien. It's a big loss. And not only for him when he played because he was a good player, but anyone that's ever been to a Red Sox game knows he's there every game. He's just so personable. I've actually had, I have a picture with him and he has a restaurant. I haven't been to a game in a couple of years, but he used to have a restaurant right there at Fenway as well. But he was like, he sort of reminded me of, I mean, he was better than Johnny Peskin. Don't get me wrong, but he was like an ambassador for the team ever since he left. I mean, he was always at the games and always there. But, I mean, he won the ERA title a couple of times. I mean, he was a great, great player. It's a sad thing because, I mean, you don't want to see anyone. He seemed like he was in good health every time I ever saw him. But, I mean, he always was, he was willing to do anything for the team. He was there every year at the fantasy camp. I have a friend of mine who goes every year and plays at the Red Sox fantasy camp with the Red Sox and Tia. He has a picture of smoking cigars with Louis Tia outside of the stadium. And he was just said he was such a nice guy. He said he actually how it seemed. Raymond thoughts as a kid on Louis Tia. Just like what Tom was saying, he was always at the games. He was always involved. He always waved the Red Sox flag, you know. He said another hero from our childhood is gone. Yeah. It seems like it's happening more and more. Oh my God. A couple of weeks ago, there was about six in like three days. It's kept rolling over and off with another. Sad. But Shaggy thoughts on Louis Tamp. Yeah. Mr. Tamp was a great gentleman. Eddie and I were the college with his son Danny, great kid, great family. Really hard to miss him. It's a hard thing for the Sox family. Like he was a great guy. And thoughts on the passing on Louis Tamp. I'm just after what Shaggy said. I mean, you know, and what everybody else has said, just, you know, I always seem to be kind of like the epitome of what. Baseball players should be for the team that they retired from or who they played the most. You know, he kind of reminded me of like, Milt Schmidt with the Bruins. Just always kind of just like, Hey, thanks for coming. You know, welcome back. You're welcome here. You know, like just being a great team ambassador. You know, and just it's just, you know, I mean, there's 83 when he passed away. It's, you know, I mean, everybody's getting to be that to that point, you know, where, you know, 83, that's it. That's a good life to say the least, you know, so I always, always, you know, Red Sox nation. Always remember him, you know, always having that aura down in the same way, especially when I was working. You know, all those, all those liquor promotions down that area back in the day. And, you know, always like, you know, there was always some sort of presence down there. So it'll be greatly best for sure. Brankowitz thoughts on the passing of Louis Tiante. Is this the 1973 podcast of the 1963 podcast. When, when oil can boy dives. Then I'm ready to talk. Louis Tia. Just in peace. I don't really remember from as a play too much. I just know the name. I think that's great point. I can't disagree with that at all. I recall one of Louis Tiante's. Shine in moments with striking out Pete Rose and one of the playoff games from the. 70. What is it? 76. Yeah. You know, Brad, you don't even have to go. Yeah, just Brad, just keep buying shirts and we'll keep you. We'll just keep being your lines. So speaking of Bradford, we're going to. Watch it. One of our favorite segments. He's going to. The people up north from somewhere in a remote location. He doesn't like to divulge his location. He's from pots unknown. In a bunker deep, deep, deep in the darkest parts of Africa. Rapid. We're going to do the lead in Tom or what? Yeah. I'm waiting for you, brother. Yeah. Brad's 10 foil hack conspiracy of the week is brought to you this week by the book. Loving Elliot, a fitting tribute to Undying Love written by our own very own. Andy Clark, available on Amazon.com. Elliot was the oldest special leads Jack Russell Terrier when he passed away at the age of 21. Take it away, Brad. Boom. Did you turn on a screenshot? You should be good to go there at home. Okay. Let's just real quick, because. Let's click that. All right. Cool. Can y'all see all of this? Just get real. Yes. So real. So if you go and Google Devin Island. And just type that in. Don't even type in anything extra. Nothing about NASA. For any space exploration, just type in Devin Island. And these are the photos that come up because some really computer savvy people have found out. They've used Google Earth and some other, you know, technology that NASA has basically been sharing their photos. They do training missions in Devin Island. It is a remote island somewhere up in Canada, right? And they go there and they train their astronauts and then they put a red filter over them. And they share it to the public as if we've been the fucking Mars. I'm just going to show this out. We haven't even been to the moon since 1970 something like 76, I think. We're landing astronauts on Mars or even these rovers. Look at this thing. Do y'all see this? I don't know this. It was like a bus for Mars. They were landing that somewhere and driving it. No, we're spending taxpayer money to develop all these cool little gadgets to go explore Mars and all NASA can show us. Look at this guy. There's an astronaut standing next to this robot thing and they just put a red filter over it and say we went there. I'm starting to feel like we've never been to Mars, man. Just going to throw that out there. And there's even some evidence of this guy me and Andy follow on TikTok. He said when you look at Mars through a regular telescope, it looks like you're looking at a light bulb or something. Through water. They don't even look like a planet. It looks like you're looking through the firmament and a light bulb. Pretty convincing stuff, man. Like every one of these photos that NASA has shared of them being on Mars, people have gone and found the same location on Devon Island. So look at this moon truck, bro. We paid. We paid our taxes and paid for this thing. Guys, we're not driving this on the moon or on Mars. Let's be honest. So that's my conspiracy this week. Pretty do wacky stuff. We're basically funding our own deception. And, you know, Tom, what do you think? I did a little research this afternoon when I found out what you were talking about. And I actually have to agree with you on this one. I think he does look a little fishy with everything that I saw. But I'm not typing anything in because I don't want to end up on any government lists. I'm already on the list. Oh, I know. I've already talked to somebody about you. I mean, I told you all, but they offered me something. I couldn't refuse. Wait. The email. What the FBI came to your house? No. I'm not going to be a fan of the FBI. Oh, don't to bullet. I'm not a grad. Bro, since we started this podcast, I've had some questionable searches. I'm on the FBI's list. 100%. I want to ask Ray because we've talked about this before when I've talked to Ray about conspiracy theories. Ray, thoughts on. Not just what Brad was talking about, but as a whole, you know, first time being on the podcast. What we grew up being taught versus what you thought are now. Well, what conspiracy theories? I mean, there's a zillion of them. You know, it's like growing up. The biggest one was the JFK assassination. You know, I mean, I still believe that it was more than one shooter. You know, the Sir Hens, Sir Hens, that's, that's an openness shot one to myself because it's because Sir Hens, Sir Hens, gone, held eight bullets. They, they removed 12 bullets from RFK, the wall, the door jams and everything. And the kill shot was within two inches of the back of his head. Sir Hens, Sir Hens was never behind her. It was always in front of him. And, which, and the head of the security for RFK that day was Rosie Gray at the old football player. Remember them? Yeah. And I mean, that assassination brought into the secret service will, will protect the, the nominee for the Democrat, you know, that's when it started, it was there. But yeah, which kind of that, that to me is the most hopeless shot one, my opinion. Yeah, we've talked about it. But as far as excuse me, as far as the stuff that he just showed us first, and I'm seeing that, you know, but I mean, but some of those buggies that he showed, I wouldn't go across Shaw's pocket while on a foggy day. Hey, the funny thing is, is it's the search for knowledge, I guess the, you know, list in the veil for like-minded individuals to try to, you know, put the pieces together of all the stuff that I will give it to TikTok. There are some people on there that have, I don't know where they came from or what, but they have some stuff that I just, it's mind blowing. You know, the whole reset with mud floods and all this other stuff that's come out over the last, like since COVID, it's like crazy. The stuff that's come out of COVID with conspiracy theories, not, not the COVID itself. I'm saying that all this time, free time that people had, it seemed like there was a lot of chunk of people that did super deep dives into like rabbit holes on the internet to come up with these things and kind of point fingers at different things for people to go, hey, you know, if you, if you like that, check this out. If you like that, check this out. And it like kind of intertwines how, you know, all the things from the Rockefeller theory to all kinds of things. So we've only been doing the Tinfoil hat, probably like the last, how many episodes, Brad? Like maybe the last 20 episodes, 15 episodes. And it's kind of something like that. Yeah, it's caught. Pretty recent. Yeah, it's caught fire. I mean, a lot of people like to watch it. Then, you know, interested in a lot of the comments are based on the conspiracy theories that we've talked about too. So aliens, UFOs. Oh, we, we could get into it, into it, into it. I mean, it's crazy, you know, just some of these things that are presented. So we're about at the hour of Mac fellas, unless Bratford wants to add anything this week. You guys are wrapping up for another one. Well, I just want to say I haven't been like deep in the weeds on the rock, the RFK assassination. I've obviously, I've done my share of research for JFK. So I don't know, maybe next week, man, I might, I might dive a little deeper into that one, just for my own, my own essays, just because I want to see, I want to see what that one's about. Yeah, maybe Ray, a little fire with something. Maybe we can, we can discuss that next week for pinfall hat and bring it. Ray, now you got to come on next week and talk RFK. I will be here. He comes on and hijacks the whole segment. Well, Ray, Ray stayed pretty much chilled the hole. And then at the end, give him the ball and he, all of a sudden he's breaking backboards, like a Dominique Wilkins. Yeah. Yeah. And he, excuse me, my new boat. Hey, rest in peace. Yeah. He just played hockey for that whole second. Remember? Yep. Yep. That's true. So shout outs this week. We're going to start with Thomas. What do you got? I don't have much, but I'll give a shout out to, to McGinney Pig Piggy Smalls because he had a tough week. He jumped out of my arms the other day. And I caught him, but when I caught him, he like panicked and he hit his claw. He ripped the claw off of his paw, his paw, and he, it was a bloodbath. It was, it was pretty bad, but he made it through it. He's fine. And he's a tough bastard. Didn't have to go to the doctor because nothing was open. So we, he had to suck it up with some cornstarch packet in with cornstarch and he was fine. Tom, did you, did you give him a towel like hell in the soap? Big X mark on the screen. We went old school. This is 1973 podcast. We did, we did the X on the screen. Jackie. I saw you looking to jump in. Yeah. Next to the shout outs. Cornstarch, you're fucking frying them up and eat it. What the fuck you talking? Whoa. I heard the duck is seeing Mississippi. Oh, no. No, it might be me. What about me? What about Raven? The birthday boy. There he goes again. Just kidding. I want to thank my wife and kids and family hanging out with me today. It's off. Oh, well, my drop. Raven in a center square like Paul Lind. I'm going to ask you. Yeah. Paul Lind. Sean, I'm listening. Any, any way you want to say hi to all the guys down at work? All the guys, not at work, of course. Yeah. Mo with his underwater specialist. You know. I'm out, baby. I'm out. I'm out. I'm out. Wait, baby. What do you got this week? I'm going to take this shout out and I'm going to give a shout out to the Phantom. I'm going to tell you why. Here's a guy. There's a guy. No doubt. To support my kid. Watch their score hat trick this afternoon. I'm going to take a shout out, and I'm going to give a shout out to the Phantom. I'm going to tell you why. Here's a guy. There's a guy. No doubt. To support my kid. Watch their score hat trick this afternoon. And I just want to say thanks for showing up. That's more than a lot of people do. So thank you. Come again. I mean, Bradford. I'm so excited to see a hat trick from a person with a clock on the back of the shirt. I didn't know what to do. Well, it happens a lot. So at least it's least somebody got some. I was going to pick on it, but I forgot to pick on your side of a row. I love it. Wait a minute. I can take it. I didn't say I couldn't take it. Oh, I can take it. Take it. Take it. Take it. Take it. Take it. I think we should all shout out Shaggy's liver. Take it off. First of all, Shaggy drinks 75% of a whole bottle of bourbon in like an hour. I'm impressed. I'm impressed. So happy birthday. The rest of it will happen tomorrow. The fan sent me a little. It was funny. It was an Instagram thing about baseball dads, but it made me just think like, man, sports dads in general, shout out to you guys. It is like having a part time freaking job. I spend more time with the ball fields than I care to admit. And we got soccer starting on the top of baseball. You guys have hockey football. So long. Man, round of applause for the sports dads because that is that is tough business, dude. You're so tough. I get it, man. Like I get off work and I'm like, I'm freaking tired, but we got hidden lessons. We got practice. We got this. We got somehow signed myself up to be the assistant coach for soccer. I don't know dick about soccer, but they needed a coach or we couldn't play. So I signed up and you know what, man, I'm here for the ride. Like who cares, dude? It's for the kids and give them something. So we going to do it. And that's what it's about. So shout out to the sports dads. You guys fucking kick ass, man. We know this. So we're going to close it out with the Phantom Phantom. I don't want to hear anything about any alleged flights. Anything. Was in the newspaper. I don't want to hear anything about that. Take it away. I mean, I think great for coming on. That was I was so surprised to see right here today. So was Ray. Round of applause for Ray. We definitely needed to work some hockey into this. We don't want to talk about rainbow up. We had to talk about great teacher. Right. I took the picture on the background. You turn that thing around. The first community in up there, like a good quarter game. And then 40 years. What do you know? Right now, 40 years. What? You know what a party is? Oh, no. No, no party using Mississippi. Not at all. We need to win Chris. We need to win Chris. Chris, Ben. Where is Chris, brother? Where is Chris, Ben? That's that's that's the question. We reached out. Who is the fan and we need to who is Chris. We need to flip it. Phantom sequel. Yeah. I think Ray just hung that picture because you know that that's Tom's boy. I think that's the point. So, yep. Ray, I want to say thanks for coming on. Hopefully it's more. It's having me. I'll be back to talk conspiracy and hockey. All right, man. So we're going to wrap this up. So I believe that's what how many episodes in the book, Thomas 88. Nice. We're dropping. Ready? And she's no, no, you're not doing it. No, stay with it. Heaven at the end. Boy, you guys.