1973 Podcast
1973 Podcast Episode 87
I mean, Joe, my boys and girls, children of all ages, it's your mother's favorite podcast, the 1973 podcast. And we're already laughing before we went on the air. People laugh and I had to keep a straight face just to cut the promo in the beginning. So we're going to get right into it. I think we got a lot this week. We're going to the bag. We're going to Ed's bag had to take before we get there, had to take a softball question, little controversy last week, people getting a little upset with the question that was presented. So I had to find a softball. So Edward, take it away. All right. Hey, they're podcast fans. Are you ready to show off your love the 1973 podcast? We've got over 20 different designs of t-shirts and hoodies that capture the essence of plastic stuff. Whether you're a fan of the show or just love retro feel, we've got something for everybody from both prints to subtle nods to your favorite personalities, each piece is made with top notch quality. 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So, you know, I was talking to the professor earlier in the week when he saw the view count earlier in the year when we talked about the alleged Vince McMahon stuff that was going on. That episode went through the roof too. So talking wrestling talk and Vince McMahon talk is not out of my wheelhouse. So let's just say that. So episode two of the Vince McMahon timeline takes you from after WrestleMania one to the steroid trial. So late 80s, early 90s. Thomas, you want to, you want to chime in on that, uh, that timeline, the Vince McMahon timeline. Well, the biggest thing I took out of that episode is Hogan's a little rat, ratted out Jesse, the body, Jesse, the body was trying to start a union and Hogan ratted him out to Vince. And I think if he had just kept his mouth shut, it wouldn't have gone anywhere anyway, because like they were saying on the podcast, I mean, on the show, they, uh, that guys weren't going to join the union because they were afraid that they'd lose their spot because the guys wanted a spot so bad that they were, they'd do whatever Vince told them. So that was the biggest, uh, the biggest thing I took from that. But I have to say, I think Tony Atlas has been the best one on the show. I think he's been probably the most honest and did you, uh, get a chance to watch it? No, I haven't watched it yet. I have watched some critiques of it and, uh, just to kind of piggyback on it. I mean, Tony Atlas and the, uh, Doc shot of the ring. He was about in the bruiser Brody episode. He's about the only one that kind of shot it straight. Um, I think Cody had did too on, on, uh, something else I watched as well. Those two guys seem to be the only ones to kind of shoot it straight. I will say, I mean, I saw the thing, um, I think that there was a real lot on Facebook a couple of weeks ago about Jesse the body talking about Hulk being a rat and everything like that. You know, uh, and I mean, it kind of goes without saying, you know, when, if you watch the, you know, who, who, uh, you know, who brought down the WCW, I mean, Hogan's name is involved, you know, uh, so, you know, it's, it's not a shock. Baggy way in on episode two. Yeah, I agree. My biggest thing is that I hope he's a snitch bitch and, uh, snitch bitch. And, uh, like I was saying before, I was saying earlier, um, you kind of like the whole like P.J. L.I.V. thing. If he wasn't a top money maker, he'd be all bored too. It was like just like Tiger Rory, like poo poo on everything because they'd be losing money. If the, if the Hogan agreed to that stuff, he'd be losing money. Bradford episode two of the Vince McMahon saga. Now you, for this, this clip, this episode two, you were at least alive. So you're going to have some, some insight into that. Oh, man, I remember the steroid stuff and Hogan coming out and having to admit, you know, that he was using it and that crushed me as a child, but, um, to see all the behind the scene stuff and those pretty interesting, but like so far, the show has it really presented much more than what dark side of the ring was new. And, um, like you said, a few episodes ago, I thought we were going to get like the layers peeled back on Vince. Um, I liked that they did go into the ring boy scandal. I think that probably got swept under the rug. Media wise company wise doesn't get talked about enough and it should, uh, pretty gross stuff going on. They went deep into McMahon's sexual assault, um, accusation. And the thing that got me is old baby Mack talking into the mic and he goes, uh, well, first of all, uh, she agreed to everything we did. It was consensual. Second of all, the statute of limitations passed so they can't come after me. I'm like, tell me you're guilty without telling me you're guilty. And then they did go after him years later. Um, yeah, I think in civil court, he wound up settling for a pretty large sum. But, uh, you know, that stuff, the rainbow boy scandal, that's a sexual assault scandal. It hasn't been talked about enough because of all this new scandal that came out. So clearly, like, you know, he wants to bury that stuff. He wants people to focus on the steroids scandal because at the end of the day, that's not even that big of a deal. But, uh, you know, between the, the ring boy and the other accusation, like that's a pretty bad stuff that went down and there was a Tony out. What is it? Is quick touch of my pecker with it or what do you say? You grab my pecker. Oh, it's just bonkers stuff, man. Like I don't, man, I don't know. I don't know. Weird stuff going on back then. You're up. Okay. I was going to tell Ed, you don't have to watch it because they don't talk about anything that we don't already know. Yeah. True. You could have, you could have just straight faked it and there was zero insights, uh, any of the shit down. If you are a fair and old school wrestling thing, you already knew everything you talked about. You don't think I didn't know about it. It's the reward. I never heard about that. But they need the worst thing to get into it. That, that's the problem. That's like, like, glaze right over it. I would like to have gotten some details off of it, you know, yep. I'll go a little devil's advocate with like Hogan being like a snitch, though, because it's like, if you're at, if you're at the top of the card and they're talking about, like, what are you caught in WrestleMania? Maybe it's a, you'd just like protecting your, uh, your, your own spot and your own, your own livelihood. Yeah. I don't really, I don't, if you're at the top of the Academy against 75% of the purse because you're the top guy, I don't think you're worrying about the freaking and all the ants at the bottom. You're, you're already weighed, you're, you're where they want to be. And then like big time, if he was a rat, he already went to WCW, you're going to throw a, you're going to throw a fence under the bus. All they had to do was say, yep, he was all, he was all about the, uh, about steroid stuff and he would have been screwed because he was their top, uh, their top guy to, to say something against them, you know? So I guess he kind of shocked everybody when he was like, no, Vince, Vince and have nothing to do with it. So I mean, maybe he's a liar for that too. Well, I don't know, I guess he could have threw him under the bus and then he was part of the competition. So for me, I always like to try to see what they, what they didn't put in there. So, um, one of the things about Saturday night's main event was they left us out. Jesse, uh, had been fired by Vince McMahon because he was asking for royalty rights for the call, see him home videos. Uh, he was the only one to say he wanted royalties from that so Vince fired him. Uh, so he had a lawsuit against Vince for the royalties. Saturday night's main event with Dick ever saw told Vince we want Jesse back or there's no deal. So Vince had to hire Jesse back, but he wasn't a WWF employee was a, uh, NBC employee. So that's a cool story. The other thing that they left out was, um, Terry Funk, when he did paradise rally was the first wrestler to tell other wrestlers that if you can get in a movie, you can get into SAG. Now SAG has their own insurance for being in the union. So the first wrestler that was big that will do you know with his personality that, uh, was a SAG member in 1979 was Roddy Piper. He was on the Henry Winkler movie about gorgeous George. He played a German wrestler and he got a SAG cad way back then. So Roddy always had insurance. So that will, that leads me to the Hogan thing with Thunderlifts in Rocky three, where he was a SAG member. So he didn't need a union either, which Jesse turned around and got his SAG cad from Predator. So he was all set. So he got, Jesse pretty much got everything you want. He ended up getting into SAG for the union with them. And he ended up getting his job down my back with WWF through that Saturday night's main event, which is funny because now he's coming back into the fold again with Saturday night's main event starting in December. He's going to be one of the commentators. So I thought that was pretty cool too. When he put out a really cool, um, reel this week on all the social media talking about how his life has gone full circle and, uh, he's always been a wrestler at heart and, and all those things. The other thing that they left out was they lied about the attendance record for WrestleMania three. It's never been 93,000. It's more like 72,000. Uh, but with that's been a lie right from the rip. I'm glad that they mentioned that the Hogan Andre thing that they had wrestled before that. And Dave Meltzer said Andre had been slammed like 25 times. There's a clip on YouTube of all the wrestlers that slammed Andre before WrestleMania three. And it's like a montage of everybody doing it. So it's out there. That's, that's a good, uh, clip to find on YouTube. The other thing that that you have Tony Alice that's talking about how everything is pretty much legit with what he's saying. And then you have Bruce Pritchett doing damage control on the other side kissing, kissing that ass till the, till the end, which is crazy to me and how much have a spine for Christ's sakes. Um, the, the lied also too about WrestleMania two where they said that, Oh, we just had an idea. Let's, let's do it from multiple cities. Well, Stockade the year before had it done it from Greensboro and Atlanta from stock eight, 85 and stock eight, 84. So they didn't do nothing except steal what they've always kind of done. Like what they did with ECW, which they don't give any credit for the attitude era. Um, yeah, there's, they just left a lot of holes out and I was telling you guys before we went on that Vince McMahon also, uh, in between, I think WrestleMania that the Trump Plaza ones four and five, he promoted the Sugarade Leonard, Donnie Golden Boy LaLawn boxing match, which they left that out too. So there's a, there's a lot of stuff I was telling Shaggy before we came on to that. I would love to see the, the outtakes from this documentary just to see the stuff that they either left on the cutting room floor that you can go white, why did they leave that out or the stuff that was kind of ad-libbed that, you know, they, they're like, we can't, we can't put that in there. The person I thought was kind of crazy and this one too was Jimmy Hart, he kind of took the high road where he says he knows a lot of stuff, but maybe he's too nice of a guy and he doesn't want to bury anybody. But he says, Oh, I don't want to, I don't want to say the wrong thing for the people that are still connected here and there. And I'm like, just say it, just say it. And I'm like, Oh, go ahead. Go ahead. Oh, just say it. What, what are they going to do to you? Yeah, I think it goes shut us restaurant down. That's right. That's right. Yeah. Uh, it's always, uh, interesting what, uh, I agree with, if you are a old school wrestling fan and maybe read a lot of things or, or watch a lot of the, uh, my wrestling deep dives were always those shoot interviews when they first came out. I was all into those. Even the guy said, I wasn't really a fan of because they tell stories and it's all supposed to be a shoe. And you know, I had heard stories about people that didn't like like man back then talking about how when he was going to the different territories, trying to, uh, buy the territories back in the day was doing some DBS stuff back then with, you know, certain things and I, I can't tell the story a hundred percent because I don't remember it, but he was, he was come back way back when. So yeah, I think everything's kind of too little, too late with putting, uh, putting the clamps on him with when it comes to his, uh, you know, deviancy, we'll say. Um, but yeah, um, before we do guys want to add anything to McMahon episode two before we, uh, move on. I'm glad. Oh, I was just glad that, uh, this was, they finally brought hard actually came out and called Mel Phillips a pedophile. I mean, everybody else kind of pussy put it around it and Brett didn't give a shit. He just came out and flat out called him. And so I saw a thing too where they were saying that, uh, in the documentary itself, there's like a lot of like, um, funny editing, like a lot of those interviews are interviews for the documentary. They, they're just like old clips of them talking about a subject and, and they, they got, they probably had the rights to use all the stuff. So they can, they can just throw stuff in wherever they want. Cause I saw, I think with Bischoff said they asked them to do the documentary and he said no, but as I, you know, maybe not so much on episode two, but as, as we kind of went along, there, there's a lot of like Bischoff clips and in, he, he didn't, he didn't agree to even go on the documentary. So it's, uh, I think they can kind of twist the truth a little bit to their, uh, to their benefit. You know, a lot of times they'll ask the questions and then as soon as he gives us the answer, they already break through a pot to make it look like he's full of shit. I think, I think it kind of goes back to like that, that, um, the WWE thing that they did on A&E with Macho Man, everybody on that, everybody on that made Macho Man out to be like this really whacked out dude. Like, I mean, you can see a couple of times Hogan sitting there, he smirking as he's saying stuff. You know, and it's like, man, like the dude's dead, he can't even defend himself. You know what I mean? And, and it's like, you know, like, and it's like one person after another after another after another. I was like, so I mean, like to see how they like they splice and his splice stuff off and lay stuff in. I mean, it's not a surprise. You know what I mean? And, and like all these guys, I mean, the reason why Hogan probably never said anything back in the day about what would destroy stuff at the trial about Vince is because he knew he was going to go back. I mean, Flair, that's why Flair always never trashes any really anybody. Like he, I mean, he may trash fish off a little bit, but fish offs not in charge. And Flair never trash McMahon ever. Because whenever we need Flair needed a paycheck, you know, as pick up the phone and McMahon would be like, all right, we'll bring you back, you know, 800,000, you know, no million dollars. You know, I mean, so it's not a surprise. Yeah, and the out there the thing with Tony Atlas being like the most honest guy on the thing. I think you started getting a little bit too honest to could be like, oh, we used to treat the female's horrible back then. Are you going to get yourself in trouble, Mike? You're going to love him though, because he's just, he's just like a simple down-to-earth duty. You know, there's no, no bones on that guy. What you see is what you get. I was going to say something about the episode and, and I got sidetracked with, with something before we move on with something to do with the, oh, I was telling Shaggy before we came on tonight that these things always seem like the Hall of Fame. They're too, too little too late that they, they miss the boat with, with certain people that have passed, and it would like kind of add to it, like for more talking heads. Like the guy that should be on this podcast on, on the episode of not the podcast, but maybe the podcast too would be great. Jesse, Jesse, the body mentor should be on this documentary. I think he would really, you know, contradict a lot of stuff. And, and he doesn't hold anything back either. He's a, that he's just a regular dude. And another guy that would have been great on this is Bruno and Superstar Billy Graham would have been great because they, they both had their moments with, with Vince where they, they didn't want nothing to do with him as they showed the two of them on the Phil Donahue show, you know, tearing him up back, back then. And, you know, they, they, they prayed to back him in the corner, but he's, he's really like a Monday PT bonomy. He knows how to manipulate in market and all that stuff. So, yeah, I guess, so next week, definitely episode three, we'll, we'll try to finish that up. But we're going to stay with the wrestling theme of things and the man below me. And one of the center squares, Bradford made a track all the way to a town to see hell in a cell. I want you for the millions and millions watching at home. For the millions and millions of my fans watching at home. Yeah, we surprise the boy. We bought tickets to bad blood way back six months ago, and he went on cell. Little do we know the GPS took us right in front of State Farm Arena, where there was just droves and droves of wrestling fans walking around. And Lucas was like, why, why are all these people wearing wrestling shirts if we're supposed to be in Alabama at your friend's house? And he was like, wait a minute, where are we at? I was like, damn it. We're in Atlanta. We're, we're, we're, you know, we're actually going on a bad blood. So we'll be waiting, man. Buck your list show for me, got to see a hell in a cell, got to see seeing a punk, got to see Roman Reigns, the rock. The great one came back. So, I'm drinking his teramata tequila. Right here's a plug. The rock sponsor me, please. I'm drinking it on the rocks. Red, could we pause you right there that Ed has space available for the rock to rent if you want to advertise on the tilt? It's right. We are selling space in back of Ed. If you are a business owner and you would like to rent space in back of Ed. Like a billboard. Correct. It's going to go back to bed. So anywhere from, you know, your use tie of business to your old video store, it can go right in back. Yeah, Brad. So the hell in a cell. So I'll start with this. Bad blood had one really great match, had one. Fun, but mostly average match with some surprises. And then the rest of it was forgettable. Still worth the trip 100%. The rock coming out was my absolute highlight of the night. We had shitty seats. I don't care. It was incredible. And I don't know if it was a WWE thing or a state farm thing, but half the Jumbotron wouldn't work. The half that we could see was covered with wires and gear and rigging. So the fans were chanting, fix the screen the whole night. They would not turn off the lights around the top of the stadium or the arena. So literally everybody's like getting blinded because you try to look at the Jumbotron. It was white light. So we were chanting, turn off the lights all night and they ignored us. But I guess maybe they leave them on so you can see how full the arena was. It was absolutely packed, not one single empty seat in this arena. And it was incredible. So the hell in a cell, I'm going to go around a room. I think it was easily a match for the ages. Like, I think it'll go down in history is one of the better ones. Drew McIntyre not only carried CM Punk's old butt, who was struggling how to get oxygen at the end of the night. But the way Drew carried this feud from WrestleMania all through six months when so many other superstars had kind of taken a break. Roman was out. Seth Rollins was out the Rock went back to movies. John Cena sporadically showing up. Who was carrying this company because Cody's reign was kind of boring. Drew McIntyre was carrying the company with his matches and his feuds. They incorporated the bag of beads. I thought that was so like theatrical and just poetic. I thought it was awesome. I was hoping it was going to be like a bag of shattered glass or like shards of glass. Like that would just be such a dig from from Drew McIntyre on Punk. If he just poured out a bunch of real glass, you know, going back to the whole AEW feud. Lucas of all people like called out that it was beads. And I was like, no, it ain't. And then it was. So Lucas was like way into it. I think it's ironic that CM Punk botched it at one point and it actually absolutely annihilated Drew McIntyre with a toolbox. He had to get 15 staples I read. You know, so the guy that didn't want to use real glass, you know, botches hell in a cell. But I thought it was an incredible match, man. Hell in the cell is always fun. It's always dangerous. You have to turn it up a notch. I feel like they absolutely delivered. It was a fun time, dude. I mean, that was my first pay-per-view. I had a blast. I don't even remember who was in the middle between the tag match. I am disappointed with this Jacob two thing that they've kind of made him out to be a clown. Like, even the fans were laughing about how he keeps doing the so low. I love you. Like, we were clogging that shit the whole night. He doesn't twice in the middle of the match. He doesn't even face off with Roman Reigns. He only ties up with Cody. So those the one that would jump in the ring with Roman. So I don't know why they're keeping the two separated like that. Even on SmackDown and appearances on the regular shows, Jacob Fatu and Roman still haven't clashed. And they just keep making Fatu just the stupid, like gullible, I love you. Trouble. Gee, fool. It's weird. Like, it's not working, man. And so I hope they do some of that. I mean, like, brother love, tribal, too. It is weird. And the other night on SmackDown, he did it like five or six times. Like, he's saying, I love you so low more than Jimmy does a super kick in a match. Like, it's ridiculous. Like, put a pin in it. We get it. You love your travel chief. Now let's do something with that story. Great pay per view, though. I had a blast. I'll do it again. Just waiting for the next one. Can you make it outside to see the Cody angle? No, man, we was so we drove six hours to get there. So when it was time to go, it was time to go. And that arena, if you ever get to go to State Farm Arena, I recommend that you don't. It was just crowded. It's not built for max capacity. There's only like two stairwells to go up. So if you're in the upper deck with the poor people like me, like getting out of it was a nightmare, just droves of people with one stairwell. There's nowhere to go. But we did Expedia plug. If you're listening, thank you. I used Expedia points to get a free room at the Omni, which is connected to the arena. So we just kind of walked around and down and boom. So it was fun, dude. It was a good trip. Atlanta's not that far away from me. I found out it's a very easy five and a half hour drive. Like, so we'll probably make some more trips, maybe for Monday Night Raw or something. I don't know. We'll see. It was fun. So when I rewatched it, the fans have met already watched it. And I said, of course, what do I always say? No spoilers. Don't be a bitch. Those spoilers. So my first gripe is towel fall from the referee. There should be no wiping up the blood. Makes a way from the story. Let that shit freakin go crimson mask for a reason. It's not called the Crimson towel. The other thing is great ending to a feud. That's how you end a feud epic blow off match. Very good. They don't do that enough. True McIntyre channeled in that feud, his best magnificent Morocco, because that is I see title champion style heat right there. That's how you carry a feud. He'd be great with a mid-con title with like that as a heel. Good enough to carry it. You don't have to take it off him. He can have a nice run with it. And you can just make guys out of that, you know, maybe a couple gimmick matches in there. And you want to see them eventually get beat, like Roman Reigns, but in a different kind of way. But those matches in the middle, they're all garbage. And of course you want to see the main event as the storyline progresses. Wherever they're going, I had a feeling that Roman Reigns was going to turn on Cody, but they're building that too. A little spoiler. I don't know if it's going to happen, but they're they're short one guy for a hell on a self with teams versus teams. Brock Lesnar coming back. They added him to the back to the WWE page. That's my I'm calling it. That's who it's going to be. But who's it going to be? Brock Lesnar. Yeah, we were talking in line. Also shout out to the people online. I told you to look up the podcast. Hopefully you do. Hopefully you see this. We talked baseball and wrestling. So it was like, you know, good time. We were all thinking it's still going to be rocker Brock Lesnar because Pat McAfee was interviewing Cody Rhodes on his show and spilled it that the big guy was supposed to come back and then Cody like cut the interview. So we spent the whole drive, you know, talking about, you know, for five, six hours, like, who is the big guy? Who's it going to be? So pretty neat that I wound up being the rock, you know, take it away. Now I was just going to say pretty much the same as well, Brad said it's like, uh, they kind of, they had a home run with that few death. That thing was on, like, I'm a punk guy. Well, you figure he comes, he comes away from the feud with the, with the win. But that totally elevated Drew McIntyre, like, he might have lost, but he went for you's going from, here over here. So I think, I think he's like one of their top guys. I think they're going to even, they're going to push him to the ceiling right now. You talk. I think too, if, if you can do that, where both guys come out of the feud and they can elevate, you've done it right because neither guy looks like, like, where the punk collapsed in the runway or not. K fable or if it was, you know, just him trying to add to it, it doesn't matter because you made Drew McIntyre look stronger. He's all busted open and he didn't collapse either. So it just, it just adds to it. It just totally comes out. He comes out the next tonight and it's almost like this took everything out to me. Like, like, I gotta go away for a bit. Yeah, like, like, I mean, he probably is being dumped from the matters of the physical match, but you're not going to jump off the top of the cage. You don't have to set yourself on fire. You know, you might have to take a toolbox to the head, but you can tell a story without killing yourself. You know, the funny thing is, is the guy who produced the match backstage is known for those crazy ass matches. It was Abyss. Joseph Parks is was a producer of that match. Nice. Oh, if you're going to use a hulky weapons in a match, that's the way you do it. You use it sparingly and then all throughout it, they were with the placement of where the toolbox ended up with the loose tools that they were like struggling, like fighting to get towards it. And then it broke up a couple of what could be false finishes or submission. So it was good. It was good. Um, do we move on from the wrestling and get into some shitty picks? What do you think? Yeah. Also, um, NXT, if you guys haven't watched, I'll plug it again. You gotta watch NXT. It is almost more exciting than SmackDown or Raw. It's definitely more exciting than AEW. It does get fucking hokey from time to time, but Stephanie Vacher came out teaming up with Julia. I know you're not a big fan of women's wrestling, Andy, but NXT does women's wrestling pretty well. Let's, you know, Shawn Michaels has the type. I'll just leave it at that. So but Nikita Lions came back. They've had some really great matches. Jey Usho showed up kind of weirdly just to do a chant with trick Williams, just so they could say what that trick yeet and they just did that to go to commercial. But it was still fun. You're not watching NXT, man. And you got to, it is a blast. It is way more fun than SmackDown, especially, we're not SmackDown, we're raw with the new two-hour format. It's like they got the time to put everybody everywhere. So now like Raw talent is showing up on NXT and SmackDown. And it's just making it kind of works out into watch day to day and week to week because you never know who's going to show up. I'm all about the two-hour raw. Just say that. They're struggling, no man. Too many stars and story lines. They don't have enough room. So not everybody has to be in a story line. That's matches. That's something I liked about this pay-per-view was they only had five matches. So they gave all the matches enough time to actually tell a story. So it wasn't all high spots. And yep. Oh, are we going to ignore the stupid crown jewel championship? Oh, come on. You know, they do these hokey things when they go over there because they pay them. I think it's been like $50 million to come there. For one of them. Not a fan. It's crazy. Yeah. Not a fan of champion versus champion. I don't even care. I don't even care. See, okay. I will say I like it. But I want that belt just to be like a trophy. Like I don't want the guy walking around with two of them. I want it to be like it's like the Crockett Cup. Like every year you have this like champions me like a world series kind of thing with the best from both divisions. And then you just have it all the way until I follow in here until somebody else wins it. Yeah. I like that. A great stupid ass belt. Yeah. It's huge. Thomas, save us. All right. We're going to go to the NFL and after five weeks of their little pick them that we're doing. Brad is in first 50 and 28. Andy is 48 and 30. Ed and Ryan are tied 46 and 32. I'm 45 and 33 and Shaggy is 35 and 27. So we're going to go into the picks for week seven which there's 15 games. So there's still there's two teams with a buy. But first game is Thursday night is the New Orleans Saints and the Denver Broncos in New Orleans. Before we get into this. You have no shitty picks this week to you. Oh, I do actually. There I'm going to fix is brought to you by. All right. Slacking. Tom shitty picks is brought to you by Brock Street Brewing Company. Located at 244 Brock Street South and Whitby Ontario. Everything they brew is in house including the hard ice teas. They're beers vodka sodas and they're hard, hard shelters. So if you're in the Whitby area, which one of us actually is right now is not on tonight, but go check them out and tell them the 1973 podcast sent you. Speaking of beer, Brock Street, we're going to decide on how I won. But I do have a cool fanny pack cooler pouch. That's also a championship belt. That's the big surprise, Andy. I like it. And unless you can hand them out to us through the screen, I think the rest of us are like, what the fuck, dude? No, I got to say 87 episodes. I've watched this podcast back and forth clips of the whole deal. That is the very first time the professor is sworn to the podcast and it took brand to do it. Brad and beer. That's it. I thought I was here for it. Thursday night, New Orleans Saints at home against the Denver Broncos, Andy Broncos. All righty Brad Broncos. All righty Phantom Broncos. All righty Shaggy. I need to catch up. I'm going with Saints. All righty, Ed. I'm gonna go with the Saints, even though I mean the Broncos are playing better and it's home coming for Sean Payton. It's going to be Sean Payton right there. That's true. I'm going to go with the Saints, even though I'm not sure by then, I don't know if David Carr will be back. They're going with the rookie Spencer Rattler this week. So I'm still going to hope that Carr is back for week seven. How do your shitty picks? Did you give a fantasy pick this week? I'll wait till we're done. I'm going to pick a college game. All right. There we go. Uh, basically because I forgot to say it. I was trying to get your attention to let you know, but he's waiting for the house doors tonight. Yeah, I got a better look at the injury report. We call that swearing. Second game of the week, the Jacksonville Jaguars at home against the New England Patriots, which actually I think this game might be in Europe, to be honest. London game. It is a game game. Andy and Chad. All right. Brad. Jaguars. All right. Phantom. There was. All right. Shaggy. Yeah. I knew a Jaguar's two. I ain't saying it. All right. Ed. It's a pick them game, man. Both teams are horrible, but I'm going to go with the Pats. All right. I'm going to go with Jacksonville. I thought Patriots offensive line sucks and Ramondra Stevenson's out for this week. So I don't know if he's going to play week seven or not, but all right. Third game. The Atlanta. Thomas. Isn't it made the savior though? Isn't he the savior? Isn't he supposed to fix everything? Not what I want. Not what that line. I mean, according to what they're saying on sports radio, they're going to fix everything. Oh, you should you should hear the sports radio here. Oh, it's horrendous. Third game of the week. Atlanta Falcons at home against the Seattle Seahawks, Andy. All righty. Brad. Also Atlanta. All righty. Phantom. Seahawks. All righty. Shaggy. I'm old now. All righty. Ed. Not from the Omni in Atlanta to go old school at six oh five TBS, but I'm going with Atlanta. All right. Even though Seahawks look pretty good the other night on TV versus the 49ers. Yeah. I'm going with Atlanta as well. I just think they just have too many weapons right now when they're playing at home. Basically, that's the main reason I'm taking them. Next game Buffalo builds at home against the Tennessee Titans Andy. All righty. Brad. The doubles. All righty. Phantom. Buffalo. All righty. Shaggy. Buffalo. All righty. Ed. I'm going with the to talkers. If you know what I'm talking about. Yeah. Yeah, that would be Buffalo. Even though I'm wearing a Tennessee hat, I'm going with Buffalo. We've got to got to pick with my brain instead of my heart. Yeah. Of course, Shane. Well, Lewis is a million dollar body, but man, that is a shame. Andy might not even play. I don't know if he's back this week or not. He got hurt last week. So I think he's going to play. Yeah. Next game Cleveland Browns at home against the Cincinnati Bengals Andy. Oh, oh. Hey, he would it's place. All righty. Brad. I'm going to pick the Cincinnati Bengals. All righty. Phantom. Let's see. All righty. Shaggy. I'm a bit cleaved for shits and giggles. All righty. Ed. I'm going to go with the anti massage therapist. That would be the that would be the Bengals. Yeah, I'm going to go with Cincinnati as well. That Cleveland's a shit show right now. Watson's yelling and screaming at guys on the bench and in the in the huddles now he's he's losing his shit. He walked off the field the other day. Yep. He just, you know, he's like, I know that $92 million, you know, you know, I really don't feel like run the ball anymore. Yep. Yep. Next game should be a pretty good game. Green Bay Packers at home against the Houston Texans Andy. I'm going to take the Packers because they're going to Super Bowl. All righty. Brad. I'm yeah, we'll go with the Packers too. All righty. Franco. I'm going to go with the Packers because they are not going to Super Bowl. Shaggy. I will take Paul Horning's Packers. All righty. Ed. I'm going to take the Joel Holstein's please. All righty. I'm going to go with Green Bay. Houston's banged up a little bit that they don't need the guys that are out this week against the Pats, but they're sure we don't. Niko Collins is out and they're running back may not play mix and he's he's got a concussion. So we'll see. Well, that doesn't matter. You cannot turn the game and go back in. Yes. Right. Next game, the Indianapolis Colts at home against the Miami Dolphins, Andy. Oh, man, flip my coin. Colts. I don't know. Righty. Brad. Andy, a man after my own heart, I'm going to pick Joe Flacco and the Colts. All righty. Phantom. Colts. All righty. Chaggy. Go with the Colts. All righty. Ed. Yeah. Hey, this is a pick. This is a dumpster fire on both sides. I'm going to, you know, I have written down with dolphins, but, you know, like, Flacco is playing way better than the then the Dolphins ever could. So I'm going with the Colts. Is he starting this week or they bring back Richardson? I thought they were going to ride Flacco to the forget that I'll take the dog over there. Right. Well, who knows? You might be hurt. I'm taking the dolphins in. Okay. I'm taking the dolphins because week seven is supposed to be when two are comes back. So we're going to see. I'm going to ride them even though. Are we going to see somebody for the second time in our lifetime dynamic field? Is that what we're going to have? Hey, it's possible. Yeah. Next game, another good game, Minnesota Vikings at home. It gets to Detroit Lions, Andy. Vikings, question mark. I'll go say, you've got a lot of answers today with the question mark. Like, I mean, the whole every time I pick it, the question mark first game, first one comes in my head is I'm picking like home in Simpson radio. Brack. Probably good luck you got there. Um, although the Vikings are playing really good football, I think Sand Arnold will do Sand Arnold things against the Lions and that's without defense. So. All righty. Uh, Phantom. Uh, Vikings. All righty. Uh, I'm going to pick the Viking because I always pick against the end of winning. So I'll pick the Vikings. All righty. Ed. I'm going to go with the kneecap fighters. All righty. The Vikings are five and oh right now, by the way. Yeah. Yeah, I know they're playing really well, but I mean, so are the Lions. Yep. Yep. Yep. I'm going the Lions, man. I'm piggyback enough of what Brad said and Sam Donald is going to come back down Earth sooner later and I'm going to go with Detroit in this game. I think Donald will wait, make one mistake. I mean, Detroit's defense isn't that great. They're secondary, but I think he will make one more mistake than Jared Goff. Next game, New York Giants at home against the Philadelphia Eagles, Andy. All the Eagles. Wow. All righty. Brad. How is this somehow turned into a pick 'em game? The Eagles. Every game is a pick 'em game from Nissan. Phantom. Billy. All righty. Shaggy. Yeah. Here you go, Philly. All righty. Ed. The Giants been playing better, but I'm telling them, don't you? You got to go with the Eagles, but man, there's something going on there in Philly, that it's not good. That could be a that could be a linen path of Belichick. Well, they're giving both their receivers back this week. So that's what I was going to say. I think if they lose this week with everyone back, I think then you might see a change in coaching, but I'm going to go with Philly in this game. Giants are playing really well. I mean, better, a lot better than I thought, but neighbors is out again this week. So I don't know if you'll be back next week with the concussion. So we'll see. But how do you just come behind when we all pick the same things? Was that how you picked this? How do I tell you this far behind when we always pick the same things? I missed the week. I took it now. Next game, Los Angeles Rams at home. It gets to Las Vegas Raiders, Andy. I see all these teams that say that my former favorite football team, the Raiders think. So I'll take the Rams. All righty. Brad. The Raiders do stink. That the best wide receipt, one of the best wide receivers ever can't figure out how to get them the ball, but I will go with the Rams on this one. All right, still place. Phantom, you're going with Rams. All righty. Shaggy. Give me Jim. Don't call me Chris. Evertrance. All righty. That I know. Ed. You cannot pick the dumpster fire, and you just can't. I'm going with the Rams. Yeah, I am too. Vegas has changed in quarterbacks this week. It doesn't matter. They can play both at the same time and they don't. They're they're what you guys said a dumpster fire. Next game, Washington commanders at home against Carolina Panthers, Andy. I'm going commando and taking the Redskins. All righty. Brad. I don't want to insult those peoples because now they're focus groups and they're lobby groups. They're all trying to lobby for a name change. So out of respect for them, I will pick the Redskins. The people. All righty. Phantom. Don't cancel me. Commanders. All righty. Shaggy. I'll take Sonny Jergensen's Redskins. All righty. Ed. tomatoes. I mean, some Jergensen's will give you Redskins. It's going to be a queen clean sweep. I'm going with Washington on that game. Next game, probably the game of the week. San Francisco 49ers at home against the Kansas City Chiefs. Andy. I don't know. I usually take Rock Hudson's favorite team, but I'm going to take the Chiefs. All righty. Brad. Yeah. Taylor Swift's going to work her magic on this one, fellas, the Chiefs. Phantom. All righty. Shaggy. I'm taking the Chiefs, but I hope they lose. All righty. Ed? Hey, go with the Niners. All right. Yeah. I'm going with the Niners. Just try to pick up a game on you guys. So. All right. Speaking of getting canceled, Ed almost got us canceled last week for Ryan's who got nothing to worry about with that email that he wanted to read. All right. Next game, Pittsburgh Steelers at home and get some New York Jets. Andy. I don't know. Steelers, I guess. All righty. Brad. Hey, Andy's like reading my mind here. I'm going to go with the Steelers. All right. I thought you would just like block. Yeah. I like it. Yeah. Uh, Phantom. Ballins. Steelers against the Jets. Oh yeah, Steelers. All righty. Uh, Shaggy. Baltimore. All righty. Uh, Brad. I'm going to pick camp on Bay. I think it's a statement game for Baker Mayfield and his Buccaneers team. All right. Uh, Phantom. Ravens. All righty. Uh, Shaggy. I'm going to it's like any fucking years. Uh, Ed? You know, I was going to pick the Ravens, but I'm going to say this. Tampa is in Orleans this week. And then it's their. I'm going to add me for a second. Well, I, I stuck to you and see. That was an NFL storyline. Yeah. And that response. The Monday night game, Arizona Cardinals at home, it gets a Los Angeles Chargers, Andy. Uh, I guess. Okay. Uh, Brad. Uh, Arizona for me on that one. All righty. Uh, Phantom with Arizona in that one. I think it'd be a close game, but I think Kyle and Marie will have a square just enough points in that one. And Herbert's a little, still a little banged up. So I'll go with him, do Marvin Harrison, Jr's having a dream season. So keep, keep feeding him the ball. Yeah, it's awesome. All right, AC. That's it. I thought you had a fallacy pick. All right, I just want to know if you're going to lead, lead into it, you're not, you know, all right. It's just testing you. This, uh, this past week, which the game's going on right now, I took, uh, Ohio State against Oregon. Uh, next week, there's some really good games next week. I mean, this week, there was some, there was like, I think five games that were had ranked teams against one another. Next week, there are three, uh, Michigan's playing Illinois, Georgia, number five against, uh, Texas. But the game I'm going with is Alabama versus Tennessee. I'm going with the upset. I'm taking Tennessee at home. The balls. I like it. I like it. Carolina this week. What's that? Bama barely got a South Carolina this week. Yeah, they're struggling. I mean, they, they've played a lot of close games. I mean, they've, since they beat Georgia, they've struggled a little bit. Well, Georgia gave everybody the blueprint on how to beat them. No. All right. We're going to, uh, wrap up the sports talk. We're going to get into one of my favorite segments on the show. You hit the twilight's own music. And, uh, yep. You know what time it is. Thomas will time us it. It's time for the, get out your tin foil, your Reynolds wrap, your shrink wrap, your Saran wrap. And go ahead, Tom, wrap it up. Brad's 10 foil hat conspiracy of the week is brought to you by the book. Love and Elliot, a fitting tribute to Undying Love written by our very own Andy Clark. That's on Amazon.com. Elliot was the oldest special needs Jack Russell Terry when he passed away at the age of 21. Bradford man. Do I have one for y'all? So we've talked about Lahaina Hawaii. Have we talked about that one on this? I'm pretty sure we did about how they used the laser to burn down the island. And so laser. So Lahaina was interesting because infrastructure failed. The water was essentially turned off. Nobody could use it to put out this alleged wildfire. Emergency responders failed. The police chief of Lahaina was also the police chief of Vegas at the time of the Vegas shooting. So there's a lot of weird things. And we talked about the blue roofs and the blue on browse how the laser didn't, you know, do that. So keep that in mind now. We're also going to talk about HARP who is admitted to blasting the atmosphere with radiation and electrons. And I don't know the scientific talk. I'm not a nerd, but they have admitted to basically being able to generate their own aurora borealis. And tell me why this year we've had two stretches far south is like we could see it here in Mississippi and Florida. It's not supposed to, you know, supposed to see it that far, right? So HARP is definitely playing with the environment. We have this, you know, laser cannon that's setting fires in Hawaii. And what was weird about Hawaii? It was a land grab. They wanted, they elites wanted to bot that lane because it was extremely valuable. The locals wouldn't sell it. And they're trying to turn behind into one of the world's first smart cities. Fast forward now to Hurricane Helene. Maybe they use that same laser to burn Lahaina to heat up a part of the, all for the Caribbean to generate a hurricane. Like you have to blast the water with some heat to generate this local pressure to form, right? Or maybe there's already a little formula here. Now is our chance we have this atmospheric air flow. We could use this laser to make it storm, blow it through Tampa, which is also supposed to be a smart city coming here up in the future. But the interesting thing about Hurricane Helene is it went through North Carolina. And there is the world's third largest lithium mine up there in the mountains that the elites are trying to, like Black Rock, Vanguard, George Soros, all those firms are investing in this area and they want it. And the locals won't sell it. What happened with Helene infrastructure fell, right? Mountain cities aren't built to withstand cat one hurricanes, right? But when the fuck has a cat one hurricane ever made it up into the mountains, like pretty weird. And there's always been a conspiracy, like there is government documentation that got released with Freedom of Information Act, where the US government has been out in the Caribbean and out in the Atlantic Ocean, basically generating hurricanes. Like David, our government is admitted to it and people still deny with cloud seating technology. And again, cloud seating, not a conspiracy, they literally use that technology in the Middle East to generate rain when they're having dry seasons. So we have this technology, we know they're doing it. But every time somebody brings it up, I'm the crazy one, right? Am I I'm the fucking crazy one? I think people need to stop just accepting that our government is there to protect us because FEMA has dropped the ball on the hurricane Helene response up in the mountains. They literally sent FEMA Black Hawk helicopters to hover over volunteers and blow all their tents and supplies and destroy their volunteer headquarters with just a rotor wash from the helicopters. A lot of shady shit going on there. And then, you know, hey, but you're right. I'm the one who's insane. Well, unless you can't respond to that. So close to the election. Well, I don't think it has anything to do with the election because if you look at hurricanes, if they're doing it more than you can't say, if you're saying that they're doing it, you can't say they're just doing it this one time. And all the major hurricanes that we've had, it's like when Trump was in president, was president, you had the one that who was at Hurricane Dorian hit. And that was a that was a red state. Then you had when Bush was in president Katrina, Louisiana was voting Republican. So I don't think there is my conspiracy with the whole not to get away from what Brad said, but I don't think there is a Republican Democrat thing. I think whoever's running this deep state shit that you guys all talk about, I think it's one thing and they're just trying to keep people divided so they don't rise up as one. Oh, you've graduated, man. You've become one of us, bro. Welcome to the club. Listen, as far as Cub Scout badges go, you got your Cub badge there, Tom. You're working on your weblows. We'll get you there. We'll get you there. Get that made a scuff. There's so much stuff that's come out like over the last like two or three weeks. And of course, you don't always know what to believe. I watch a great just common sense type stuff to pay attention to is how is it that we were told that the earth is made with a molten core and all that stuff, but the deeper you go in the ocean, the colder it gets. It's just crazy, crazy stuff like that. Just common sense stuff that makes you wonder what's the big picture. And you see these just simple things like the flight patents that airplane pilots take to get from one place to another. And then you look at the way that they're they're rooted on the map of what we know as the globe. And it's like it makes no sense. They go in that way. But when you look at the other map, what you might might oh might not believe is the true map of the earth. Is that what you're talking about? Are you talking about? Or the Simpsons movie, something like that, you know, or something that can be manipulated, maybe by a grand scheme of things or a higher power or whatever you want to, we're not there yet. But yeah, there's so many little interest get the details in the UN map. You know, the logo has what looks to be like a nice wall around it. So just things like that just makes you kind of wonder. And as Brad brings up great points, it's a lot of, you know, we try to add a little bit of a, you know, kind of intelligent conversation at the end of the shit show when we talk about wrestling. So on one side of the fence, you got, you know, you lowbrow guys that do nothing but watch wrestling that's fake. Well, everything's fake. Right. We talk fake at the end too. So yeah, Brad, that's a great one. I think as the election gets closer, you're going to see more and more conspiracy theories pop up and, you know, kind of draw a timeline in between things here and there and, you know, yeah, so we'll show what it's like. I forgot, Hurricane Nadine is supposed to be the next name Storm and graphics and fake news reports got leaked. Basically, the script got leaked. And all the major news networks had to go on like a media cleanup campaign just to kind of discredit like where people are getting their news from. So the people didn't start panicking from another hurricane. But I think it's just one of those like we talked about with the NFL, like the script got leaked. And they had to be, oh shit, some some idiot dropped this next one and it is too soon. Going to media campaign cleared up, discredit it. And now we got to shift and do some different because now they know it's coming. I think it can be like I think it is political because I think they're trying to push the global warming agenda with like temperature of the water and that's why I'm someone getting all this funky weather. Well, we don't have a war to drive votes one way or another. We don't have race rights to drive votes one way or another. They can't throw COVID ass again, even though that's probably coming down the barrel at some point. So what's the next way to do it? Get people divided on global warming with hurricanes and FEMA and storm relief. And then only give the people $750 when you send Lebanon a couple billion. So I don't know, it's weird. Weird. Very crazy one though. You're right. Absolutely. Yes. Tom's the true north on this. I believe that there's a north somewhere. So yeah. So anybody want to add anything to the tin foil hat segment before we wrap it up for the week. No, good silent silent majority. Nobody wants nobody wants to be red flagged than Brad. Yeah, we don't we don't want the FBI knocking on our doors. What was funny was when you started talking about the subject of the tin foil hat, I lost my Wi-Fi for a second. Damn. What a what a shock. Just whoa, these shot the lasers. Kind of weird that just before the storm said a lot of people's electric vehicles all got disabled. Nobody's talking about that kind of like the area was hit with like some sort of EMF or cannon that shoots lasers, the disabled things. I don't know. Shocks with laser beams. Yeah, that's what it was. Real quick before we move away from the tin foil hat segment, did you see the stuff that Tesla rolled out this week? The robots? No. 30K you can have a mate in your house. Those things are you gonna see them, Brad? You're gonna see it. I'm terrified already. I don't even want to look it up. That's the beginning of the end. Everybody knows that. If you get a chance, we might as well have a meet for a couple of years before they get the lunch. Brad, you have to Google it. You got to see it. That could be something to talk about in the future. You've got to Google it. Tesla rolled them out this week. They talk like regular people with slang and everything. It's unbelievable. So weird. Yeah. Another episode in the books fellas. We're gonna wrap it up. I guess I don't usually start with the shout outs, but let me start with Chris from the podcast. He's up in Brock Street Brewery area up in Ontario. His son is up there in a tournament. I think he tore up his arm, possibly broken. We don't know. I just want to give Chris a shout out that when you know, even though you can't make it, still in a loop. So who's got one? Thomas got one? Yeah. I want to give wish a happy birthday to my sister, my oldest sister, Lori. Today's her birthday. Happy birthday. She's a big watcher of the show. Nice. Nice. Hi, Lori. Shaan, you got one? I don't have one this week. No, I didn't really think of one. Oh, good. Great shout out. Thank you, buddy. Well prepared and we'll be happy. Speaking of well prepared, let's go there. I'm off to the south. Well, this is just kind of piggyback on the on the tin foil hat. First and foremost, you know, living in this area and having friends in Tampa and having friends that have family up in Asheville. You know, it's just terrible to see all the things that actually happen into regular people. And it's a it's a bad scene. And it's not it's not a good time. And you know, hopefully everybody makes it out through the other side and that type of thing. So, shout out to everybody that got impacted by both those hurricanes. So, it's definitely a they're definitely a big deal. You know, 18 inches of rain in Tampa or alone, that's a lot of rain. And you know, it's not, you know, it's they're not the systems and not capable of taking all of that at one time. So, just thinking about all my friends and, and Asheville and also in Tampa. Yeah, 18 inches is a lot to take for anybody at one time. Go ahead. We'll be here all night. Hey, Anthony, what the fuck. I'm gonna shout out Don Sweeney and Cam Nilly. They were, they watched the show and about was later. Swimming was signed. They're looking at it. We can do your book and we can we can do your GM. And what do you need for you? We got a little wall, say goodbye. Look, we'll go down the list. We'll book your show. We'll, we'll GM your club. We will advertise on Ed's wall anything you want. We'll, we'll, we'll, we'll make you one hell of a, of a t-shirt. And we'll bring you Brad. Brad, you get to close out the show. All right. I want to shout out everybody. I met at Bad Blood, I plugged the podcast, every breath I had, everybody I talked to. I was like, oh, hey, by the way, I'm on a podcast. We talked wrestling. It's called 1973 Podcasts. Look us up. And they're going really how to look it up right there in front of me. So hopefully you found us. Hopefully you're listening. Hopefully you're watching every major platform. Also want to shout out my buddy Jason Seibel. I met him in the Air Force. This dude is living the man's dream. You can see this. It's called Mercer. It's his Kickstarter. Comic book. He wrote and had people design the artwork. This is not a bad comic book. I actually, I actually enjoyed reading this one, man. If you're in the comics, it's just really cool to get. I don't know a lot of people that write comic books. So Jason, it's a great job. I think they already launched the Kickstarter for the next couple issues. Oh, they're like 25 bucks a piece. So maybe we get them on the podcast to interview. Great guy. Great personality, by the way. Great comic book, man. Like y'all did a really good job. The art in it is fantastic. The story is fantastic. He autographed it for me. Great. There's like four different variants for the issue one. I'm not rich. So I can only buy one because I like 25 dollars a piece. But great job, Jason. Really proud of you, man. Keep it up. I'm looking forward to getting the second one. All right. So from, I guess, everybody to whoever was watching all 700 and something people that watched the episode two weeks ago, we brought you more of Vince McMahon. So we're going to wrap it up, fellas. Ready? Wait. And she's by, you know, great. We won't do that.