Hey everyone, it's John here and before we start tonight's show, I wanted to give you guys a sneak preview of our new exclusive episodes that we're calling Super C episodes, which are coming soon to the MMP Discord server store. These high speed episodes will include bonus content and post show discussions that can't be found anywhere else. Joining at any tier will give you full access to these exclusive twice monthly bonus episodes with more extra rewards on the way. Not only will this give you guys additional content, but will also help to directly support the show. We really hope you guys enjoy them and, like any good product, the first one is on the house. So, without further ado, let's sand the rails and clear the road for the Super C. Hot on the heels of the Limited, the Super C is roaring into a station near you. John and Johnny take the throttle the night as they recall the oddest production models they've encountered in 3-rail O-scale. What makes them so strange looking? What could be done to improve their overall appearance? All of this and so much more. So, jump on board and hang on tight. Baud! [Music] Good evening everyone and welcome to our first exclusive bonus episode of the miniature models podcast. I am one of your hosts, John and joining me tonight is my co-host, Johnny. How are you tonight, sir? I am super excited to be here tonight, man. I am also even more excited to launch our first episode of the Super C. This has been something we've been talking about for such a long time and I'm glad that we're finally putting it into action. Yes indeed. I am super excited as well and being super is kind of the whole theme here. The concept of the Super C and the reason we've named these Super C episodes, for those of who don't know, the Super C was the Santa Fe's highest priority freight train service. It was often a very short freight train when it ran, you know, like a F unit and a couple of TOFCs and a caboose. We always goof. It's like a Bachmann starter set in real life. And it was also a very exclusive service, very expensive. That's the whole kind of concept here. These are short exclusive content episodes, hence the C, Super C, and because you guys are our Super supporters, plus we all collectively as hosts love the Santa Fe and we'll take any opportunity. We get to shove it down your, our listeners, throats. So that being said, let's get right into our topic tonight, which is the weird and offbeat production models that we think are deserved to be talked about in 3.00. So let's get started. Oh, 100%, man. I guess I'll start off with one. And before we get started, just as a bit of a preview, we are probably going to be talking about, I think the the line suffers the most weird looking engines. Unfortunately has to be the relking line. So we are going to probably poke a lot of fun at them during the show. But I do want to preference that both John and I started with relking. It's what God is into the hobby. So we do have a very big love for it. We're probably going to be a little bit harsh towards it tonight. But we do love our semi-scam, we do love our relking. So please don't look too hard to our topic tonight. Absolutely. I mean, we if anything, we get we kind of for one thing too, we grew up with this era. So of course, we're going to notice more about it. You know, lots of eras and companies have weird production stuff in them. And we're going to talk about those two. We're going to bash a line out. We're going to bash K-line. We're going to bash all kinds of stuff. But this is the era we grew up with. These are the trains we remember seeing in the catalogs. And also, we paid our dues. We did our time in the relking mines. And we in the semi-scam. So we're not bashing semi-scam. Let's just, you know, we we did our time and everything. So because we love it, we can be critical of it. It's okay to be critical and, you know, discuss something like this, even when it's something you'd like. So I mean, we didn't make the things. They made them the way they are. We're just observing. It's not our fault. So yeah, Johnny, this was kind of your whole idea for an episode too. You know, we always goof on this thing. But you brought this topic, I think, to my attention for an episode. So let's, let's, why don't you go ahead and get started, man. Yeah. As I said before, this is kind of stuff, and how John said before, these are things that we've kind of experienced growing up. And I'll even start with my first childhood engine. My, as I say many times, my first ever steam locomotive I got was a railking Imperial GS. And the railking line and just semi-scale GS's, that's a whole fun rabbit hole. Because I think I've owned most, not all, but most of the modern era GS4s and GS2s that were done. I had the railking Imperial GS2, but I think a lot of folks growing up during that time period had the railking Bantam, which the railking Imperial is a nice engine. It's, it's a nice super portion for semi-scale, but it does suffer a little bit because it is a shared towing with, I think, the Imperial J as well. I think the J suffers from Bantamism. So because of it being similarly made off of the ban, off of the J tooling, the Skyline casing with the railking GS is always too short. Like it just doesn't look quite right, because it's always a tall Skyline case, you know, associate with that engine. And it's just way too short because it's a J. But for listeners who don't know, John, do you want to explain what, what a Bantam version of an engine looks like? Yeah. Okay. So railking was kind of funny, just like how it's very funny, because like early railking, actually just repping as a whole, mirrored kind of what old school traditional line ended, where you kind of had three distinct sort of groups, you had scale quote unquote, then you had traditional scale, which was the more toy-like stuff. But then within traditional scale, you had like the larger stuff, and then you had O 27, which was shorter, and usually the little bit cheaper option came with a cheaper track and everything was kind of squashed, and more stubby and short, for example, like the turbine and the short coaches from the post war era, the really short streamliner coaches versus say like you got the the F units with the bigger aluminum coaches, that was the kind of the whole thing, they were both traditional scale, but one was a little bit smaller and even more, it was like traditional scale within traditional scale. So the whole idea with the Bantam line was it was the same concept, it was like the O 27 of railking, they would make, you know, the railking line was MTH's traditional scale line, that was your starter sets, that was your stuff for the budget friendly thing, and everything was, you know, pretty well proportioned for the most part, but the Bantam stuff was specifically designed to be starter set trains, like the tightest curve radius possible, and pretty much everything has extremely small drive wheels, very squashed, and very small scale. So they kind of have goofy looks to them, funny parallel you brought up Johnny, just like how with Lionel, how their their GS, their first one they did in the, oh God, don't kill me Brendan, the 80s, I want to say, or no late 70s, I don't remember what it was, it was the mid-s late 70s, early 80s, their GS used the J class tooling that they used in the post war era, they just slapped a new front on it, put some skirts on it, boom, daylight, because that's all a daylight is, right Johnny, it's just a J class with a different nose on it. It's a skirt and a different nose on it, it makes the west coast engine immediately. Absolutely, and vice versa. So they were, if you ever look up the old railking sets, you can always denote them because the steam engines are very squished, and they always have really, really, really small drive wheels, that's how you can tell a Bantam engine, it didn't really apply to diesels, I mean they would have small O27 diesels, but it's more of a scheme thing. Yeah, it's not nearly as aggressively noticeable, because those, those Bantam's, they're chunky, and they made really interesting paint schemes. I wasn't there like an Abisco Bantam GS, and like a, like a, a beer company one too. I think the Nabisco one actually was a quote unquote full scale railking one, I don't think that was a Bantam. I could have sworn it's a Bantam, because that was speaking of weird paint schemes, that's a very weird one. That's one of those weird MTH collectible ones that they, I don't know why that they did that, this is like, why, why Nabisco? It's like, it's cool, but why? It's like making, I don't know Doritos toilet paper, like it's cool, but why? It's a Ferrari hairdryer. Exactly. They probably have that though, I bet that. Oh, that is a thing. I last, when I was in, I was in high school with some of my, my girlfriends, when I wanted to go to Sephora, I was, you know, being, I was completely lost, so I was just wandering around, I'm like, oh, Ferrari hairdryer. Okay, this would be some Ferrari on Top Gear after Jave. Don't put branding on anything Ferrari towels. Now we're just becoming a episode of Top Gear News. One, one isn't, one isn't, one of our shows, just referencing Top Gear, it's a much better one. That's fair. That's fair. That's fair. Yeah, the, the Rail King Bantam line, I think actually, I think they had the first instance of putting the pacemaker scheme on a steam engine. Interesting. You know how everything, yeah. That's why the man just with like a feed water heater on top too, they did. I think it's, yeah, I think it's the Bantam. I think what, what's supposed to be a, what's the, what's the CNJ Pacific? 47, G47, P47, something or other? I always looked at it as like a repainted blue comment. Yes, it's the repainted blue comment. They put it in B&O and all kinds of stuff, but yeah, it's in a pacemaker scheme. I think it's a little different from the ones they do now, but yeah, if you, if you're a pacemaker scheme collector, you probably have a missing piece out of your collection, which is the pilot episode, that train set. But they, I mean, they definitely were charming, though, like they have a very cute, they're kind of like chibi engines. Like, yeah, it's very much chibi, but railking also had more weird stuff, not just that. Well, they, the CN pacific stuff was really weird. You want to take that one, John? I love the big boy with no flying number boards, the big boy, the challenger and the worst one, the FEF. Like, what are you? Because you just have, because you look at the FEF and when it has no number boards, I always tell, I tell John this all the time, I can't stand locomotives with no number boards up front, because, or like no action on the front of the boiler, because it makes them look bald. Yeah, they do. It's like the engine has just, it's, it's gone. It's just like bald. Bald. Bald. Have you seen, have you seen videos of like one, two, sixty one that molecular S3 didn't have? It's, I think it didn't have its emergency light. So, oh, it's so weird looking. It's so bad. It's so, it looks naked. It's got like, it's like, if you give a steam engine a receding hairline, it's bad. Yeah, it's not particularly great. And the same goes for the FEF as well, because the FEF is one where, if you don't have those number boards and you just have, also the bell isn't really mounted very nicely on when they don't have those number boards. It just looks like the, with the chunky relking tooling, it just has two giant tubes sticking out the front and front instead of headlights. It's so bad. It's not elegant. It's not really, not saying again, not that they're not good engines and have charm, but it's just aesthetically, it's just kind of strange. I mean, you're tooling up an engine to look like something. It's, you just kind of got to wonder about the creative choices. Like, was it a cost thing? Was it a simplicity thing? I mean, everybody knows what a big boy looks like. Like, even if you're ignorant of an FEF, like, you know, a big boy has, you know, flying number boards on the front and, you know, it just looks odd. It's one of those things where you know that there's better, because Lionel nailed it when they did their line master big boys and line master challenges. Those are as nice of semi scale articulators as you're ever going to get. Like, those are fantastic. I love mine. I own the TMCC challenger and the legacy challenger. Fun fact listeners, you can play Africa on the pistol with the legacy challenger, the first gen, has all the right pitches. Found that maximum. After I did that, it ruined that whistle for me. So sorry. Oh, man. Did you still have that engine or not anymore? I believe I sold it to Roman, actually. Roman has that engine. But yeah, that's, that's, they did such a good job with those engines that it's hard to not compare the MTH rail king one to that. Yeah. They are products of their time. I mean, I think they came out with those pretty early in their line. So, you know, we can give them a little bit of credit, but still, it's still weird. Just add the number board. It's just like, it's like looking at those like Burke juniors. Yeah. Without a number board, it looks weird. Like people have made those modifications and they look great or like when they did Lionel did their new show sets, like they did the non number board version for the polar express and they added them retroactively. It looks great. Well, the other thing too, thank you for bringing that up, because that always bugged me. Lionel did do a Burke junior that had the flying number boards in the chassis steam special set. Oh, yeah. And then they never did it again. It's like, why was this okay for only one set? And then he didn't do all the other ones. Like it cannot cost that much to put two screws into an engine. Come on. Come on, Lionel. Why? Let's let's take this as a way to transition because we have to keep up our pace as the super sea. Absolutely. Let's let's let on the topic of big boys. Yes. Another person who another manufacturer, they took a big boys in a very hard direction. And we can also use the segue a little bit to East Coast semi scope models. K line. K line did so very interesting big point Allegheny models. Did you want to explain the thought process behind their design? So I can't explain the thought process. I can just explain what the heck they did. What for some reason, K line in all their weird wisdom, thought that they should make these their their concept for making. Okay, where they're like, we want to make traditional scale articulated. What we'll do is rather than keeping the engines, you know, proportionately O scale and just maybe squashing them a little bit, they're like, Oh, no, no, we'll keep them pretty proportionate to, you know, full size, but we'll shrink them down so much they're actually S scale. And put O gauge motors and trucks in them. So it's literally an S scale 164th locomotive running on O gauge quarter inch scale track. Like, why? If you see them, they are it again, it looks like an American flyer locomotive. Why? What was the thinking? I've seen I've seen a couple in person. Also, I love the sound card they used on the big boy. Because it's the most like thunderous who like you've ever heard really I don't think I've ever heard one running before. I've seen the Allegheny. I've never seen a big boy in person. It's one of those classic TMCC rail sounds cards where it's like that that like from the TMCC class A, I think like that that that card. Oh, okay, got you. I think it's that probably isn't since we're going to kill me. It's close. Yeah, it's close. But it's got this thunderous who to whistle. And you have this. It's I run because of the shell and the tender are actually quite nicely detailed and they have number boards. They're quite nice, but there's such little tiny babies. I had a I had a buddy who who owned one and I just I looked at I'm like, I'm this tender is adorable. I want to steal it because the tender is normal. But the engine has this ginormous, like overly sized, but yet squashed set of articulated drivers that are shoved under this very nicely detailed ish shell. It's just a horrendous mishmash. That's the thing. They are really nicely like proportionately in detail wise. They're very nice looking engines. They're just ridiculously tiny. It's like when American flyer did the O-scale stuff, literally exactly the same thing in the pre-war or just after post-war era, before they did escale, they did all their escale models with O-gauge chassis on them. And they're so bottom heavy. It's so goofy looking. I mean, it fits a little bit more back then because that was kind of, you know, there was no real scale quote unquote, but still it's just such a weird choice. Yeah, it's just where K-line is a whole. We could do a little K-line section here. Johnny, you had brought up the Coke display cars. Yeah, so they, so for those who haven't seen those, these aren't things that really get much attention. I also have another mention on K-line weird semi-scale stuff because they did weird downsizing in terms of like shrinking engines for semi-scale. So for those who have seen, you've most likely seen the K-line American Freedom Set, and they made the display cars, the baggage cars that have been cut into and have the glass windows on them. So they did those, and then K-line has history of, for the aluminum cars, they usually do, I'm not sure they did this for the display cars. I think they mostly even did them in 21 or 18. I can't remember, but normally they would do for a normal aluminum car, 21 inch, 18 inch, 15 inch, but I think they did one that's even shorter. So imagine one of those display cars, how there's two windows on them. Cut it in half, and only have one window. Stick two sets of trucks underneath it, and then label it for Coca-Cola. It's like the shortest of shortest aluminum cars I've ever seen, but it's still like proportioned in terms of like height and width, in terms of like a scale car, just not length. So it's just like this chunky subway six inch sandwich of a pasture. That's great. Also, they did like there's aquarium cars too that had almost like real water in them. It was very kind of the same thing. K-line had that weird 2000s kind of vibe of just they just took everybody's stuff, and like the old Kousan stuff, because their F units look really weird with those huge windows in the front. I think Williams owns those now or somebody. I can't remember who did those, but they did those for a while. And then they had these weird, I think it was like the battery operated G scale bodies for these trains, but they just stuck die cast O trucks under them and sold them as these like, I don't even know what they were supposed to be like, like kids train thing, but it runs on, I don't know what the thought process was. K-line just really just threw anything against a wall and see if it's stuck. Like that was literally their thought process. Well, they even had like that's so many different, we'll go on this tangent for a second, but they had so many other side businesses when it came to K-line, they had like their like sort of, but not really department 56 series of buildings. They had like their die cast aircraft series. They had these plastic trains and a bunch of whole other weird stuff, but K-line is just an interesting company just to look into their full product line. We could probably do one thing as a book. And some point. Oh, for sure. But kind of going back to like weird proportion trains. Um, there, there's semi scale daylight is one that still baffles me. I love it. I think it's hands on one of the best aesthetically looking in terms of the semi scale work because it has that scale boiler front scale skyline casing and it has all that, but it's got these, it looks weird because you look at from the side, it's squash and the nice thing about the skirting on a scale one is that it kind of gently dips down to the pilot. The K-line just kind of just sliced it and it's like a pilot in here. And then they made, because this skyline casing was higher in terms of scale form, the front looks nice, but they made the tender shorter to compensate for it, which doesn't necessarily make sense to me because the tender height should match where the cab is. Um, and then if you look at the striping, because the striping doesn't, has to match the engine, the striping of the tender isn't to match it on the engine. They lowered the tender height to make the striping in the middle of the tender. But the lettering for Southern Pacific is off centered. It's like a little bit waft like to the left with the right. Oh, God. It's a lot of weird off centered K-line decisions. It's also, they just run terrible. Well, also, Johnny, aren't you also cursed with that being the only locomotive steam wise that matches the K-line cars correctly? Is it a beautiful, beautiful, full scale cars, tiny, yay, baby, little steam engine? They made a render for it. His billboard art, there's catalog art of his scale one, and they, they bit the dust before that. I think the new, I will say, I think the new, I had to say, I just see this in person, though. I think the new, this run of MTGS is finally filled in that, that gap, because I think MTG changed their paint color for that daylight. So it's more muted now. I forgot about that. But one of those recently, and you were like, Oh, this is nice. Yes, I've actually been thinking about, we're recording this before York. If I, maybe if I can't find an FDF, maybe work for one of those. But yeah, no, K-line did a lot of weird ones. Yeah, it's good. Moving on to some East Coast stuff, because I know this has been a very West Coast heavy discussion tonight. It has been, I mean, what are you going to do? They just, it's a lot of popular stuff. They're going to make a lot of it and it's going to be weird. It's just, you know, it's fine. It is. Well, here's one that I feel bad for the pansy folks. Why is it whatever railking does an inch with a long haul tender? It looks terrible. It really does. I don't know what it is about it, but the fact that it's big and tiny at the same time, because like the long haul tenders, if you look at a pansy engine, they're supposed to be almost the same size as the engine, if not bigger. And it just doesn't work in railking. What is it about it? I think, I think it also like with the renders as well, because it's railking, they have to show that it has a longer draw bar. So when you have a huge cap, like a, like a good 10 foot gap between the tender and the, the, the cab, this massive tender behind it, it just doesn't look good. You're right. It is definitely the draw bar part of it as well. But I understand, you know, smaller curves. Oh, yeah, you have to get away with some stuff. But I mean, you know, you can also work around that to make it look good and also be functional, for sure. One thing I've always loved from them is the, the amount of the poor crusader and 49er get put in so many different paint schemes. Some of them kind of work. New Haven crusader kind of slaps. Um, daylight 49er does not. No, Western 49er also does not. Absolutely does not on that one. Um, they're saying if a high waffle looks god awful. No, no, no, no. Seaboard high watha kind of kind of almost almost went a little off family friendly there kind of also slaps. Um, I mean, this is super super steep, but I don't know if you're paying for that exclusive of content. Um, well, let's say that later. You got to pay more money for that kind of content. Um, but, uh, yeah, no, the, uh, some of them work really well. Some of them do not. Um, I have you guys look at it. Look at the Williams J's, dude. Oh my god, Williams. Oh, no, no, no. Oh, dude, dude, the, the, um, the boys getting flashbacks. Oh my god, that Williams was the trailblazer, man. We don't give Williams enough credit for all the trends they set in the hobby, both good and bad. They got a lot of stuff started. Um, oh, for sure. And, but some of those things died off or got, you know, brought into other things that weren't African fun. Fun fact, though, there are a lot of really good sound files hiding in those, um, in those, uh, repainted steam engines, because you can get trains that are really obscure in some of those engines that are great sound files to put in other upgraded locomotives. Um, yeah, there's some good trains hiding in those things, but they're hit or miss also by the, the, yeah, and then you need to buy like a, well, I'm trying to think of like the two, like worst ones I can think of off the top. I had the pen C J and the, the, I think the, the CNJ are pretty bad. Oh god, yeah. The CNJ class, that's not the CNJ. That's definitely the scene. Yeah, Canadian national J. Yeah, I forgot about that. That was written. It's not the green drivers and stuff. Yeah, it's not. It's not a lookable. What's, um, let's, let's do this. We talked a lot about steam locomotives. How about like really weird diesels? I know, I know beeps come to mind. I like beeps. There's a good, like weird though. Those are like train show engines. You always see a beep at a train show. I think they're great. That would be a fun that it's not that the effing version of those. Oh, because why are those called? Well, they are beeps, beeps, yes, yes, yes. Those are like an A, B, B, A consist, but like imagine putting blue on me one of those. Oh dude. Okay. Ridiculously fun. It's just full full on silliness. Um, or another, another fun silly one, I think would be fun as a, you could actually probably use the, the turbine sounds in this one. You see the Lionel New York central, uh, rocket, budcard, the black beetle as it was called by the press, but hated by his inventor. Yes. We've talked about that. Lionel, you need to redo that as a lion's chief engine. That'll be a fun one. They'd have so much fun recording the sounds. Yeah. The sounds, think of all the schemes they could put it in. We've talked about this before that, they need, if they have that towing still, you need to redo that Lionel, um, the missed opportunity there. They did two, I think they did two schemes in it and that was it. I can hear that. I can hear that the crew talk great. It's going to be something about like, oh, we're knocking ballast everywhere. Oh, we're breaking windows with all the ballast or, we just blew that guy's hat off or something. Absolutely. Say we got the ideas, people. Come on. Budcars in general from Lionel, just diesel, traditional diesels in Lionel tend to be, they're kind of scale, but they're kind of not and it can be a good thing and a bad thing sometimes because anyone who's played with like any of their GP series of diesels, um, if you run any scale, like box cars or reefers behind them, or sorry, not scale, traditional scale ones, like the, you know, the 64, 64s, 9,700s, all that stuff, uh, a bit of a height difference. It's kind of like when you see narrow gauge diesels with narrow gauge rolling stock. I, it like, it always looks exactly the same kind of way. There's a massive drop off between the two. Always run a, like a tanker or a flat car behind your diesel to make that not happen, but like, they're good engines for the most part. The only ones that really, I'm not a fan of, I should even say I'm not a fan of, they're still cool, but they're kind of just a product of their time. Any of the 90s diesels were all the, um, older fans of Lionel were insisting that, uh, pull more motors still be used in everything. And so all of the dash sevens and eights look like they were overfed and have these giant bodies that with, with these narrow little noses and it's just this weird mishmash. I think they did several different ones. They did like a dash seven, a dash eight. I think they did an SD something. Would you like to supersize your diesels today, sir? Yeah, exactly. Exactly. Um, send your diesels to, uh, to special camps. Um, but, uh, yeah, those ones are very straight. I don't think they run too well either because that was like the beginnings of command control and as anyone who's owned like a post-war celebration series that like TMCC does not always play well with, uh, pull more motors. It's not smooth, but yeah, those ones are always been weird to me. Johnny, what are some others you have in mind? Um, I'm trying to think what other weird diesels there were. Um, I guess we'll do this one. Uh, and then we'll, uh, we'll kind of wrap things up a little bit because we are, we are reaching the end of the line here quite soon. But one of that I, now I do say this all over my heart. I do love this series kind of going off the post-war celebrations, the post-war scale series. Um, now there were some really good ones. Um, and there are certain items that I am on the lookout for. However, the, um, the war-bodied scale f units are very, very odd looking because they, they lack the full nose striping to, uh, to emulate the post-war style. That's what's weird about them. Thank you. I could never put my finger on it. It just looks like they're missing something. Like they're very cool. And I definitely had a highlight coming getting her hands on one. Um, but my God, those, it just doesn't look right. It just looked like you're missing something. Yeah. That, that old concept was, it was a very cool idea. I kind of wish they'd gone a little further with that. I don't think it was very popular for them. I think they only did what two diesel sets they did, Santa Fe and New York Central and some freight cars. Yes, I believe so. I would actually love to see them bring that back on in all honesty. I would say it would probably do well now. But at least at the time it was not, not, because you can't really find pictures of, of these sets or any videos of these very, the, um, because they can do it really well. And if they did a lot of the sounds electric, like the classic post-war sounds, but electronically translate them into legacy, like the J when they put it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. With the, with the, with the, with the J when they put the air whistle, the cold, but once the air whistle, that was good. Give me one of those, but like the doorbell buzzer, like horns. I don't know those. That'd be really, really nice. You never have to worry about the battery going bad or the freaking horn needing to be adjusted. That would be really cool. That's a great idea, Johnny. Yeah. We'll see. We'll see if, if Ryan listens to this one, the anniversary year and they did release, I mean, they've been kind of teasing us a little bit because they did the, um, they did the GG one, didn't they do a couple of the GG ones this time around with vision in the, uh, the post-war numbers with the passenger cars and everything. So we're kind of, we were, we are kind of moving toward that again. Yeah. I still come out. Come on, Lionel, give me a, give me a girl, a scale girl screen, please. I want my pink. Yes. Yes. One day, one day, if not, we have to beg, like, just please just get a beg, like a, um, like a hot shot. Two does it cost a run for us at this point? I will, I will order one without any questions. I would too. Absolutely. Just to get it made, if nothing else. I like, I like pastel Choo-Choo. Well, um, I think that brings us to, uh, the end of the line here, John. So you want to take us home here, man? Absolutely. That was fun. I liked, uh, that was a good topic. We can definitely explore that some more. Um, yeah, we're going to wrap up for the day here, uh, but we're, we like this content format a lot, this idea. Um, we can't wait to bring you guys some more of this. Um, we get a few more episodes in the works we're thinking of. Um, and you know, this is a new format. So if you guys have any feedback or any topics you think we could discuss in this kind of shorter timeframe, um, let us know. As we always say, we make this show for all you guys. We really appreciate you all for all that you do. We appreciate you guys being here. Um, be sure to check out the latest episodes on the main line show. And be sure to always always check out the social media accounts, Discord, Instagram, all the host, YouTube channels and Instagram accounts, everything. Um, we hope you guys have a great day and, uh, we'll see you again for another run of the super scene guys. Take care. See you in the next show. Take care guys. 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