In this special 100th episode of the Beyond Jaws podcast, hosts Andrew and Dr. David Ebert reflect on their journey over the past four years and the significance of reaching this milestone. They express gratitude for the support they've received from listeners and guests, highlighting the diverse voices and stories shared throughout the episodes.
The discussion delves into the podcast's origins, emphasizing its goal to provide a platform for marine scientists, conservationists, and communicators to share their experiences and insights. They note the importance of showcasing not only established figures in shark science but also early-career researchers and professionals from various backgrounds, including illustrators and filmmakers.
Andrew and Dave reminisce about their first episodes, featuring pioneers from the "Jaws generation," and how the podcast has evolved to include a global audience, with guests from over 40 countries. They celebrate the unique stories shared by individuals from different cultures and the challenges they face in the field of shark research and conservation.
The hosts also reflect on the collaborative efforts that have made the podcast successful, including partnerships with organizations like the Save Our Seas Foundation, which provided initial funding and support. They acknowledge the hard work that goes into producing each episode, including the recent symposium on wedge fish and guitar fish, which featured numerous international contributors.
As they look forward to the next 100 episodes, Andrew and Dave express their excitement for continuing to connect with new guests and explore various aspects of shark science and conservation. They invite listeners to engage with the podcast, share their thoughts, and help spread awareness about the importance of ocean conservation.
In closing, the episode features congratulatory messages from past guests, reinforcing the podcast's impact on the community and the importance of sharing knowledge and passion for marine life. The hosts emphasize their commitment to inspiring others and fostering a deeper understanding of the complexities of shark science.
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a day of your old friend Greg here congratulations for reaching a hundred episodes of Beyond Jaws I enjoyed being part of it and I've really enjoyed watching many of the other episodes keep up the great work. Hey everybody and welcome to a special edition of the Beyond Jaws podcast where we are celebrating our one hundredth episode today's episode we're going to be going over a little bit of the history of the Beyond Jaws podcast because there's some things that I don't even remember what we did because we were able to accomplish so much so I can't wait to get into the episode and I'm here with my co-host Dr. David Ebert Dave how's it going? Oh it's awesome man I'm pretty pumped up we got our 100 episodes of our podcast and that's a pretty good accomplishment I think and I believe is probably one of the most popular shows because I don't think too many short episodes of podcasts have reached a hundred episodes so I think we should have a lot to be happy about there and the episodes growing as we'll talk about today and we have a few guests on that come on give us a little bit of a shout out here we'll talk a little bit about the podcast history and kind of how we got this whole thing started and how you and I first kind of came to know each other and all that so yeah I'm looking forward to it as well this is going to be a lot of fun I think this is you know one of those episodes you know we talk about the 100s it's always a big milestone in a podcast because I've been podcasting for almost a decade now and when you reach that 100 or every time you reach a hundred you feel something a little special because with a lot of time with with podcasters it doesn't matter what your topic is that you're talking about could be sharks it could be the ocean it could be you know learning how to play the ukulele it doesn't matter if you can reach a hundred you've probably outperformed or out published most of the podcasts that are out there because I think there was a study done a couple years ago that looked at the total number of podcasts that have been launched and there were like four million or so the active podcast at that time was 400,000 you know so it just goes to show that a lot of people will start a podcast realize how difficult it is and how time consuming it is and then realize that hey you know what maybe this isn't for me which is fine you know that that's that's up to everybody else but sometimes you know when you get that hundreds you you kind of know you've outworked a lot of the the people who have who have been on there and you know shut out to all the other shark podcasts who are approaching 100 or have hit 100 because we were trying to look it up to see if we were the only ones but there are some great podcasts out there that you know deal with sharks in a in a very different way that we do and they're fantastic we listen to to all of them you know at some point in time it's kind of hard to listen to to all them because there are quite a few but it's it's great to see them approach you know 50 60 70 80 if they get to 100 that's even better you know we love our other our fellow shark podcasters out there and and and ocean podcasters and wildlife podcasters because God knows Dave we need more people talking about the ocean to get more people aware and and have the education I think we can we can see it in some of our political leaders right now in the lack of information they have on sides and and conservation so it's nice to be able to have people listen to us and just be like hey you know what like we can teach you a little something or you can learn a little something from each and every one of our guests that we have on and I think that's that's something to talk about it yeah absolutely and I think you know Andrew we we kind of we started this whole idea of like you know kind of want to do something a little different in that well hot because I certainly get this question a lot and you probably get as well like well how do you get into doing marine science how do you become like a shark researchers or science communicator and so you know and like you know we wanted basically tell have people tell their tell their story talk about their journey and try to get a lot of people from from just different stages of their careers I mean I think originally we came up with this idea this whole concept of the the Beyond Jaws podcast it was my initial thing was let's get some of the more senior people on there so they could tell their story and their own words because you know oftentimes you go you'll somebody will pass away an older researcher you know and and they'll know the name and yet they won't they won't you know they won't know anything other than what they'll I'd say the shark will bitch your air the official bitch or it's been written about them versus like having them be able to share the story in their own words and that's kind of morphed into like well that's great we'll get that some of the more senior people on there and certainly our first our first you know half dozen or so episodes focused on some of the people that have had had careers and gone through that but then as we expanded on we went to some looked at some of the other things to talk about well let's find some people let's talk to people in their middle of their career some early career people like well how did you get started why did you get interested in it and it's and the younger people are kind of funny fun because they can tell their story now at this point in their career you know whether they're doing a graduate degree or their early postgraduate and then they come back like in 10 or 20 years and see like well where they are now and so I think that's kind of cool for for some of the for some of the early career people to be able to come back at a later time and and see what they said because now we have it on we have it on tape literally to see what they're what they're what they're doing what they're thinking was and so I think that's kind of a cool niche we found and we've kind of tried to work on it going forward I think we've dispelled a lot of the the biggest myth I think in in marine science in general for careers is that everything just falls into place you know you go to university you do graduate work and everything is just let's just it's it's a straight it's a straight path to your career and and we know now that oh you and I have known that for a while that's not true and but people just don't believe it until you see and hear it from a lot of the people who have been in it for you know 30 40 years and seeing their career meander whether they are in you know shark biology and shark science the entire their career or what a lot of people have gone back and forth between you know sharks maybe maybe fisheries maybe aquaculture like you did or you know science communication like I did like it goes back and forth a lot of the times it really just comes up with what's the opportunity that that presents yourself what's your life situation at the time you know it's it's it meanders and and no path is the right path and no path is the wrong path it's just whatever path that that that you get and I think that's what's really important when you when you hear these these stories yeah I mean I think that you know like one thing I think it's pretty consistent as nobody has as you just said a direct path and people have had to do a lot of interesting jobs along the way you know different things they just but they state but I think the one thing is they all state focus where they want to ultimately get to and they had a lot of setbacks a lot of things you know some people came to you know some people you know like myself knew early on like I'm gonna do sharks you know the time they're five years old other people came to the came to sharks later on and I think another thing that too with our podcast is that we have we don't just have scientists on we have people from the conservation we have science communicators we've had a number of people that do filming you know we've had you know a number of people like Joe Romero Chris fallows people are both behind in front of the camera for shark week and for the Nat Geo shark fest and other programs to talk about to just talk about how because you when they hear a lot of like how do you become a wildlife photographer or filmmaker yeah so having the so having some of these people on to talk about their journey it all revolves around they all wanted to eventually get into a marine science or not machine science build like capture marine science either on film or on audio or in different different areas so I think that was one of the things that we we want to step outside just the pure science or just the pure conservation but to get people from other other backgrounds and and so it's been kind of kind of really neat in that in that respect and that respect for for for for series we've been doing yeah and you know it's it's interesting because we we've we've experimented over that time too I think we've we've stayed true to the overall goal and that's to you know you to share the stories of of different researchers share the stories of different conservation is that with are within the shark or conservation field like in that area shark science or or shark conservation but we started experimenting right right from the beginning we did our first number of interviews you were there you were technically I guess you were our official first guess but you know technically because you know we want to tell your story as well but you know we we kind of came in right off the bat with Greg Scholmall as our first as our first you know episode and since then he's done two episodes I think a bonus episode as well right as we were going through that but like you know he was first on in July of 2021 right around shark week which is perfect obviously to to launch and then put out some episodes and obviously you know you you've known Greg for for a long time ever he was he's always a great guest you know telling us sort of the behind the scenes of some of the stuff he's done I remember that first episode we did talk about shark week what it's like to be on shark week some of the ins and outs that that scientists coming up in the field should know more about when they approach you know shark week or get approached by production companies to do shark week episodes as well as any other you know big TV episodes like shark festes that's that's developed since then and of course you've been on them too so you can share your stories as well but then you know we we also got to talk to him on that bonus episode of you know the book talk chasing chasing shadows with Rat Talbot as well that he co-wrote that with that was just that was just amazing to have him you know like as you as you mentioned our first number of episodes were sort of dictating the history of especially of that Jaws generation you know you want to just talk a little bit about the Jaws generation a little bit about Greg and why it was important to have him on yeah like so the first sort of six seven episodes we had on there we started off with Greg and these are people these are all we all kind of came up together you know myself and Greg we had Lisa Natanson on we had Sarah Fowler and Dominic Dittier we had we had Gavin Naylor on and so we had a number of a lot of these people we had on there they were we all kind of came of age in the in the 80s and and so like they had you know with Greg and Lisa you know again we all knew each other going back to we're all graduate students together you know some we you know somebody like a Gavin Naylor for example was on one of the first episodes we had you know he you know we had we've had you know he actually was a student of Eugenie Clark's and as anybody listens the episodes know we typically have on some of the we have on the whenever there's a winner for the American Lazzo Branks Society of the Eugenie Clark or where we typically have on the podcast and so most recently had Grace Castleberry on there who was the most recent winner but we've had you know we had Britt Phonucci on as on an episode she was back in May of 2022 on episode 25 she came out and talked about her having received the Eugenie Clark award and talk about her research and we also had Britt on more recently in April of this year on a bonus episode to talk about the recent article she had that was on the cover of Science Magazine but a lot of people the reason you have something like a Gavin Naylor on is that most of these people even though they might be a recipient of the Jeanie Clark award they have no idea that Gavin Naylor who's been a longtime member of the American Lazzo Branks Society actually was a graduate student of hers and so you can share stories like that that's really yeah kind of the essence of the whole reason we want to do the podcast is to be able to have people on like Gavin and and the others and of course Greg Skomill who's never short of stories that tell and stuff in some of his adventures back in the day and so they can there's a kind of this is a kind of simple connection between you know the you know the current you know people starting out and some of the maybe mid-career some of the earlier people have been around for a while and then but they could be like a link like in Gavin's nation as a connection to to Jeanie Clark you know recently you know Leonard Campano passed away and I did we've done a couple things by talking about Leonard having been a graduate student of Leonard's and talk about what it was like and I knew Leonard for about 40 years and over 40 years actually yeah and so to be able to talk about like well what it was like work with Leonard Campano I was like well sit down buddy and pull up a have a beer and pull up a chair and let's talk and so it makes a connection and I think it's important you know the for people to know the history of the field they're they're into and what they're doing and so you know a lot of the people we had like the first sort of group of people were all literally pioneers in the field well I think also to yeah these pioneers become heroes of people who you know read their papers and watch their careers and know you know what academic institutions they're at or government institutions they're at and they see the the people and they you know I've we've we've probably all done it where you read a number of research papers by a particular person and then when you first interact with them you just don't know what to do because they're celebrities in in the field and you're just like oh my gosh like I'm so intimidated I have been postural syndrome and so forth but then you know one of the benefits of doing the podcast was to have them on and you can hear their voice you can hear their personalities and a lot of the times you know for me you know hearing and meeting some of the people that we've been interviewing it you know it's it's kind of cool they've been on TV they've probably some numerous papers they've done some amazing things in in the field of shark science and conservation and it just kind of brings it everybody to like an equal playing field as they as they would think to you know what I mean where they're they're easy to interact with you know they're they're just regular people and you get to hear their voice you get to connect with them on a deeper level and that's what I've always loved about podcasts it's raw it doesn't have to be professionally done it's it's one of those things where you just hear the person we don't we don't edit out any of the the interviews unless there's a connection issue or something like that so it's you you get this is what you get this is who they are as as guests and as scientists and conservationists and you hear the passion in their voice a lot of times from a journal article or maybe an article in a you know society magazine or something like that you don't get that passion coming through that tone and so you're able to get that through the podcast which is which is a lot of fun and then I think that's what you and I have enjoyed over the last you know four years to be able to do to get that to get that off I thought that was great right and you know we started off we mentioned we started off in July of 2021 and you know right after we you know we did a series of people that have been around kind of from the jaws generation as we mentioned but then we we went into I actually with Pete Kind and Paula Carlson have also been on the podcast we did a the three of us coordinated ran a symposium was a global symposium on wedge fish and guitar fish which are probably the most critically endangered group of of of sharks are raised in the world and we did a series and we did a series of of seven episodes had 29 people on which was a lot of work for us but it was but everybody's able to come on and talk a little bit about their share a little bit about their story and of course we will you know everybody on there we can have on again for a full-on episode and and will eventually but we had you know we were able to have some people on there and a couple of people we had on there was Adriana Gonzalez-Pistana who talked who's from Peru and talked a bit about some of the work she's doing and then of course we had Baniya Simone who was on episode 13 from the same time she's from Indonesia both are now doing their PhDs at Charles Darwin University under Peter Kind and and so and I actually just had a great experience in in Indonesia with both of them on that and they'll be they're going to be on a future episode here again but it was very it was very you know for them from Peru from Indonesia to be able to come on a podcast that has a has a global reach I think is really helpful and I think that and I encourage people to go back and listen to that because a lot of the people that were we young people we had on those symposium podcasts it was our first podcast experience and it was the first time they had a chance to speak to an international audience you know we have we have people who have had downloads from over 140 countries and we had we've had guests on from over 40 different countries which I think probably not too many sharky podcasts that can say they have you know had guests on from 40 different countries they're over 40 countries and so and and Adriana and Nair a couple of a couple examples of that could talk about their experiences and again I'm sure in the future they'll be able to go back and listen to what they said at the time but you know at the part of that from a science communication standpoint and you could comment more on this but here we're running this symposium that's within the shark community was fairly well advertised but with the podcast this is kind of this sinnergetic compliment to it we're able to get out to a more global audience to people even outside the field and want to learn about these groups and I don't I'm not aware of it anybody's ever done that and I think that's what's kind of cool about what we do is we're been being you and I doing it we come with some innovative things to do and some try some stuff some stuff works and I think that worked really well and some stuff maybe not so much but yeah at least we're able to try some things and that that podcast we did with the symposium I think was was generally very well received and yeah I think it was too I think I've been a long believer and supporter of sharing these symposiums with sort of a different audience there's a lot of information that is passed on through those symposiums it's always great to hear from each of the contributors to this like the presenters that we interviewed and have them you know talk about what they've done you know in terms of contribution what they're going to be talking about the symposium because you know our audience is not all just scientists it's it's everybody it's a makeup of a number of different people shark enthusiasts I would say and to be able to bring that information of a symposium that you wouldn't normally get access to where it'd be written up as a technical report that would may not be of interest to shark enthusiasts or may not get distributed to shark enthusiasts now we have it in a way where you hear it directly from the person like you're in the audience yourself and it's not in a presentation mode they're in a relaxed mode they're talking about some of the cool things they did and it's amazing but they've I don't know if you remember the amount of work we put on to do those episodes there was I think what is it seven episodes and you were talking about before 29 different people on each episode or on on the the total of seven so that averages about three to four 20 to 25 minute interviews we did for each of those episodes we decided to you know put it into condensed into seven episodes the amount of work that we did for that and we were talking to people all of like Bangladesh South Africa I think we did uh Sri Lanka yeah like it was it was everywhere and I remember just different time zones we were juggling and we were going on and we were trying to remember where these go and but it was it was so much fun to learn all of these different uh you know just just the different information that's coming out of of of these sharks that not much is known about right yeah no and I think I think a thing that you touch on like you know a lot of the a lot of these things tend to be very like North American centric or Western European centric and yeah we have people on from you know you said we have people on from Bangladesh from Sri Lanka from the UAE from Tanzania Mozambique South Africa Namibia Angola all over Latin America and we actually have a actually developed quite a good following in Latin America now because we we feature a lot of people from from Central and South America who come on the show you know we had we had you know Francisco Pancho as we know by was on an episode in March of 2023 episode 42 and if you want to catch a funny a real funny guy who he's a professor at the University of Val Val Prozo he's a great he's a great guest he you know is everybody and he he just shared what is you know like a lot of the types of research going on in in South America and Chile there and and so you know here's a guy I had a chance to reach out and connect with people you know and so it's been really wonderful to just get these people from different countries and we have say we have a good following in South America in Central America just because we have we have a lot of people on from those episodes to talk about to share their story and talk about their journey you find out even in these countries most these people no one's had a very straight trajectory in how they got to where they were and of course one of the things kind of funny is sometimes after we interview some people we'll be off air talking and I'll find some little nugget about them and I'm like oh man I wish that I know that for the episode you should have recorded that you should have recorded that because that had been that had been really good to to include the episode for sure oh yeah so it's it was pretty good to be able to like get on there and talk about some of the people you know some of the people I've had some young people on like Josh Moyers who's a lecture at I think it's Yale University actually he talked about Yale and he talked about the shark mooc which there was a thing that him and Willie Bemis who's also been on the episode podcast talked about it was a it was an out it was an educational thing that they're able to communicate with people from all over the world and it was a really good program and I and so being able to have someone like Josh on who's just kind of launching his career and of course Willie is kind of at more the I don't like to say a tail end for those of us that kind of at the tail end of our kind of latter part of our career but but if you kind of get that have that golden years they're in the golden years yeah exactly but have Josh come on there and share his thoughts and everything with the on the shark mooc and where his career is going he's gonna be another one that's gonna be great to have on again in the future and see where it's got you know or see where his career is going and how it's going and and share some of his stories so again that's some of the difference the kind of the cool things it's nice to have on some of these people and again he was another one that you know he doesn't you know he's it'll be in North America it's a little more opportunity but again some of the people we have on don't have much opportunity and especially by sucking it off especially going on with the with the english speaking community you know a certain number of the people we had on even just this year we had on Elisa Areno from Guatemala we've had Maria Christina Doney who's from originally from Uruguay who's also it works in in as a professor in Brazil I think it's one of the first sort of english speaking podcasts they've ever been on I know for sure it was for Christina and they just don't be they don't get invited on many of these things and they're both very accomplished well and I think one I yeah I completely agree and I think it takes also a lot of courage for people whose english is not their first language to come on an english speaking podcast and be able to communicate the you know the way they've been able to do that and to put themselves out there I think that is something that I know I never thought about before we started this podcast and then seeing them come on and they did a great job every every single one of them did a great job and coming on and telling us and it's allowed us to share their story which is which is really nice that they shared their story with us and the audience because we don't get to hear from them as you mentioned that often but can I also talk a little bit about some of the groups that you know the groups within the shark world that we've been able to share so for instance like Lindsay Marshall and and Mark Dutton I know who have been on the podcast there they're illustrators we never really get to talk about what goes into book illustrations and textbook illustrations and digital illustrations and how sort of that market just kind of builds up right and and yeah we don't hear from from people like that and we're able to kind of get an idea there are people out there who are really great artists and they want to know how to get into that type of career we've been able to share their stories and they've been able to share them with people who are looking forward to to start in their career in that as well and and even just being like if you're new to this if you're new to illustrations and you don't know anybody else who's done those types of illustrations where do you go how do you begin you don't want to just repeat you know the same thing the same mistakes that they did they can provide you with you know a little bit of mentorship through their story or even you can reach out to them afterwards because we always put the connections to there as well I think that was that was always great and then there's also the which I thought you know I never I never thought we were going to do this but when we started to do this it was a lot of fun is talk about sort of the shark like productions that were done in the behind the scenes so we had like Andy Casa Grande on we had Jesse Khalezi who who's been on the podcast we had Joe Romero who have been on and I'm missing a bunch but we've Chris follows Jeff Kerr yeah Jeff Kerr yeah yeah so like we've had and we've gotten a sort of an indication in a behind the scenes look at how you begin a career like that where does it go how do you even get like a little bit of that take your personality and be an on camera camera person you know and yeah and develop that and I think it's it's really interesting just to see the different backgrounds of people where they came from where they go you know the fact that Joe Romero Romero from from Portugal originally when he came to the US learned English through Godzilla movies of all things like you know and got into the big monster movies and stuff and I think that's one of the episodes day where after the recording he was showing us his like collection of the different monsters he had in the background which would have been really fun to be able to show on camera during a recording but we were like damn it we should have just we should have kept going but you should have rolled a camera for the a showing that yeah I think showing the niches within the science world the shark science world and conservation world is really cool to bring to an audience yeah and then we're going to continue to do that I think you know with people who who now like even like people who have been big in social media you know and big influencers you know yeah who are who who are developing their career at the same time and showing people what it's like to go through a PhD like Jalen Myers who's on episode 61 like in December of 2023 she was like a huge fan of the podcast and she kind of came on and gave her story which which is great and we've been getting to know her throughout that so I think it's it's a lot of fun to show sort of the different areas of like growing areas like in terms of social media you know video production and and doing a production like a high-end production like we we talked to Forest as well right right off the bat yeah those have been always the the fun areas to get into the illustrators right and even the book writers too like you sharing your stories of book writing as well as as Greg Skomel and others who have been on to be able to say hey look we've we've done this pretty cool stuff so yeah we had yeah we had Dean Grubbs on the talk about the books he's done we've had his yep his co-author Dan Abel was on recently the talk about one of his books and of course they had a bit of a funny story that I met Dan yeah yeah I met Dan at a bar in Catalina Island about 40 years ago with Lisa and a Tanson so if you want to know more you have to go back and listen to that particular episode yeah but you know we had but you know some of the people I like you know if someone like Jesse Colazion and he's like he does the editing I mean everything you see on there he does all he's one of the guys he's about kind of literally behind the scenes and he works really does a lot of stuff with Forest Kalani he was another friend of the podcast and of course Forest is out there in the complete opposite where he's he's basically the host and you know main person on the he's had his own TV series and he's done does a number of these shark week shows and he's obviously on the other extremies out in front there in front of the camera all the time doing the stuff but then it's Jesse who takes the stuff and does all the editing behind the scenes that puts it all together and the music and the music yes that was a big there's some insights again if you're it's a whole area I never well I've been because I've done some of the shows I got a little bit of insight but I really haven't a mod I even learned a lot just having him talk about just how much time and energy goes into doing these doing these episodes I mean it takes them months and months and he only does like one or two a year and I didn't really think about that just how much time and energy it takes to be able to do one of these episodes and so Jesse really provided a lot of insight and I yeah I was just he was just a great guest he was one of those guys they need to put him in front of the camera here sometime and let him like just turn him I think so yeah just a shout out to Forest with you and you have next time you have Jesse out in the field you might have to put him on camera for a little bit to capture some of his personality it was pretty it was really good to have him on and and to be able to and to build a highlight some of that stuff and then yeah so I think it's been really it's been a great opportunity and a great vehicle to be able to share some of the stuff with people and again I think I think I know for me doing science all the time it's like I love doing it but getting to know some of the people kind of they're behind the scenes and what they're doing yeah is really kind of it's my favorite part yeah totally it is it's absolutely it's absolutely one of the favorite things to be able to do and I think we've been able to help connect people to they kind of come on they listen to what somebody tell their story and then you know they feel like they get to know them I think kind of almost on a personal level too so they feel like they can you run into some of these people if you're right if you're a young person in the field you run into a conference scope is they high to them you know you now you know a little bit about some of these people and and everything and and I hope I'm kind of hoping like you know we we have like every four years have like a sharks international I'm kind of hope with our podcast now we're at 100 episodes and growing that we'll be able to start help people connect when they go to these some of these international conferences they can connect yeah a lot of these people they've we've had on our podcast and so I'm really really even do a couple of live episodes there at the conferences as well that's that's I think that's the place to be where you get all the content that we need yeah yeah yeah and I got you know we got to also give a give a a real big shout out to you know with the Save Our Seas Foundation which has been a tremendous really helped get us off the ground initially with with the initial sort of seed funding to get us going and you know just want to thank you know initially it was Michael Schull was the executive director initially approached in that then he left and James Lee came in and James has been a super supportive of us as well as Sandrine Sandrine Griffiths and Jade Schulls and of course Isla Hodgson who has who does the a shark world the Sharks podcast for Save Our Seas it was you know very very good for them to appreciate them for helping us get off the ground and get going which kind of led to where we are today and from you know from initially starting out as just audio only now we've got our own YouTube channel so I guess I guess you know to save our seas thank you guys so much you guys really helped helped get the get our whole podcast up and going yeah absolutely I mean that's that's the you know it's it's always the people not only the people who've been guests who have helped you know share their stories but also save our seas who's who's helped us start off they provide us funding for the first couple of years which was great and and now we're off and running and we've been off and running for the last couple of years and and it's been it's been absolutely phenomenal to be able to continue this journey you know we we we're going to continue on Dave right we're going to continue on with our regular episodes you know sort of helping people share their stories and learning from them and hopefully we all learn from each of those stories and we're going to be kicking it off the 101st episode with Alexandra McInterff from the Big Fish Lab at Oregon State University that was that was a great interview looking forward for people to hearing that in the next episode and of course like like you said you know we're on we're on Apple Podcasts Spotify we're on YouTube we're on all the podcast apps audio podcast apps as well as Spotify video now we started to post our videos on Spotify we're on YouTube we're pretty much everywhere you can listen to a podcast or any of our content and it's always great and so always check those out you know share those with with people that you think would enjoy hearing about you know the the different aspects of shark science and conservation the different careers and of course we almost forgot to we've been doing some bonus episodes of sort of timely things that have come out you know we did a dark we did a episode on the report of ocean white tips you know we did like you said your your dedication and sort of going over and and paying respects to Dr. Lina Caponio and we've done a number of other episodes where people have done something so always check out and come back you know once a week once every two weeks we post episodes and it's always a lot of fun so before we go Dave do you have any last things do you want to say yeah I just like saying it's been I've you know Andrew it's been really it's been a joy working with you and I got to say you're you're the reason I'm even doing podcasts because I it all started about it would about seven or eight years ago when I came on your podcast which was a speak up yeah speak up for blue that was literally my first podcast and then after that we did you know we started doing it we had some real good synergy together and and I just I can't help but it's for me it's just kind of a fun new phase of my career to be able to do this you know I've been in this field now for 40 years over 40 years now and so the podcast and be able to share stories we have people on from different walks of life it's just been amazing and I said I owe it all to you Andrew for really for kind of introducing me this whole world and I'm really looking forward to our next 100 or next thousand episodes I am looking forward to it as well hey look on how to check the ocean podcast I'm over 1600 episodes there's no reason why we can't do it for the Beyond Jaws podcast and and there'll be some iterations there'll be some experimentation as we try and do different things and you know we're always trying to connect with with with other shark researchers shark scientists shark conservationists enthusiasts you know people who bring in big productions small productions all that kind of stuff it's always great to connect with it with a number of people and we will connect with everybody and so yeah that's that's pretty much our 100th episode it's been a it's been a pleasure for me to not only do the last 100 episodes but continue on to the next 100 plus episodes with you it's going to be a lot of fun I'm looking forward to it it's been fun so far and I know it's going to get even better so for all those of you who have been with us since the beginning or since the middle or even just started this journey with us thank you so much for supporting us you know the amount of people that have been listening to this podcast and connecting with us has been a real pleasure it's it's it's definitely been a highlight of my career to be able to talk about sharks and and and meet some some of the great shark scientists that we've been able to meet and so it's it's a lot of fun so we thank you for sharing this episode and others and helping us grow and getting more people involved in sharks so that we can get better shark policies better shark education out is just one one one one cog in the wheel right of this of this whole thing we call shark conservation and shark science so and of course David's been like you know it's it's as I said before it's been a pleasure but you are like a giant in this in this field and you know I definitely don't take that for granted and I learned from you each and every day that we do this podcast and all of course people don't hear about our conversations after we record and the three plus hours at a time that we talk you know multiple times a week and it's it's always always a pleasure so looking forward to doing more of that in the future but everybody else thank you so much for listening to this episode and the 100 episodes before that we really appreciate Dave you can sign us off this time all right okay well thanks Andrew and again just want to thank everybody for for making this journey possible for Andrew and I and I please go to our YouTube channel and subscribe we're just shy of 500 subscriptions so maybe you can help us get over 500 and catch up with some of the old episodes too we have a lot of there's a lot of stuff now we've got 100 episodes and again just thank everyone for for for joining us on this journey and we look forward to hearing from you and oh by the way please leave any comments too we're always looking forward to any comments we appreciate and we're on all the major social media platforms as well as LinkedIn so thanks again everybody and Andrew it's been fun and we'll see you next week we start our 101st episode with Alexandra Maganturff looking forward to it have a great day everybody and happy conservation congratulations Dave and Andrew we are celebrating 100 episodes of the young Joe's podcast I cannot wait for more episodes to come hello I am Nia from Indonesia again congratulations for the 100th episode of the Beyond Joe's podcast keep inspiring hi Dave hi Andrew this is Steve Guder from Florida Atlantic University just wanted to say congratulations on achieving 100 episodes of your Beyond Joe's podcast I'm delighted that there's so many different elasimal biologists that you've been able to talk to and I hope you have great success in your next 100 episodes all right thanks so much guys and keep up the great work bye bye hi Dave hi Andrew I'm calling into you from Fiorda National Park at the end of the world in southern New Zealand we're out fishing for seven gill sharks which I know hold a special place in Dave's heart I just wanted to say congratulations on reaching your 100th episode and here's to 100 more hey Dave and Andrew this is Josh Moyer I just wanted to say congratulations on 100 episodes of the Beyond Joe's podcast it's one of my favorite ways to start the morning I put it on when I'm driving to work in the car and it's wonderful to listen to the stories the adventures and the science of both preeminent established shark biologists and some of the best up-and-comers that the field has to offer so I and all of your listeners owe you a debt for putting that right there on our stereos in our smartphones and on our computers where we can learn about not just sharks but the discipline of shark biology so for that I just wanted to say thank you congratulations and I look forward to the next 100 episodes hello Andrew and Dave I just want to send you all my greetings and congratulations for this 100 chapters in your podcast I felt great and honored to be part of it of one of the chapters and I wish you guys a hundred more big hug hi hello Dave and Andrew congratulations 100 episodes of Beyond Joe's podcast it's Lindsay Marshall here from stick figure fish illustration it's no surprise to me that you guys have come this far you're both fascinating to talk to great people there's no shortage of awesome interesting inspiring people in the shark and ray world it was a privilege to be on one of your episodes and I've very much enjoyed listening to all the rest of them and also I think you know Dave won't stop talking so I'm sure you'll be doing it for another hundred congratulations well done hi Andrew hi Dave this is Jalen Myers coming to you from Townsville Australia I just wanted to personally congratulate you on reaching 100 episodes of Beyond Jaws it is an incredible achievement in those 100 episodes you've brought on so many amazing voices from the shark science field and I speak for myself and I'm sure everyone else who listens this has really helped us understand the amazing complexity of shark science that's happening right now and the champions who are making that happen it is greatly helped with networking and just gaining some perspective on future career paths without Beyond Jaws I wouldn't have such direction with where I'm going today and it's been such a pleasure listening to your show hey Dave and Andrew congratulations on your 100th episode to me that not only speaks volumes about your dedication to the field of study but science communicating in general like I think everybody needs a good science communicator in their lives I've certainly been on the receiving end of that having both of you but when Dave and I first worked together back in 2020 on Land of the Lost Sharks for Shark Week that time sparked an obsession like I went home from that shoot and bought four copies of your book and I have taken that obsession into absolutely every animal show and wildlife show I've done since then including like eight or nine shark weeks since then and it has been just wonderful knowing you guys I think that there is a wonderful future ahead for Beyond Jaws podcast I can't wait to see what the next 100 or 200 or 300 episodes brings and just to many more nothing but the best for you guys I am so thankful to have both of you in my life and to have become the shark obsessed all the best and congratulations again hey Dave and Andrew Alex Mackinterf here congratulations on your 100th episode and in honor of that I actually just wanted to share my favorite story about Beyond Jaws so you all asked to interview me in the middle of a training cycle I was in for my next running race and in order to kill two birds with one stone I decided to listen to a few of your episodes during a training run that same day you were supposed to interview me so I could sort of prepare for the questions you might ask and as I'm sure most people know running particularly for me it can be painful at times but as I was listening I found myself like smiling and laughing like an idiot by myself while I was on my run and I think it put me in exactly the right headspace for our interview and as a result I had such a blast chatting with you guys so what I've learned from that is that folks should really just listen to Beyond Jaws on more runs congratulations again and I look forward to the next 100 episodes