#1242 - Tim Pool
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Tim Pool is an independent journalist. His work can currently be found at timcast.com and on YouTube.
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three two one hello Tim how's it going thanks for finally being here long story right I definitely drank too much coffee before we get here so if I appear like cracked out I swear to God I'm not in pills but I'm glad to hear it but so we had a nice conversation on the phone about deep platforming and social media and what it was very obvious to me in talking to you was that you're way more schooled on this than I am so that's why I wanted to have this conversation with you right yeah part of what was like I've re-listened to my podcast with Jack and you had a good criticism of it I agree with a lot of what you said first of all I agree that it was kind of boring yeah and it was I think in many for many reasons it was my fault I don't think I prepared enough for it and I also don't think I understood the magnitude of how other people felt about deep platforming on Twitter and in all social media YouTube all these different things and what the ramifications are and how how much this means to people to have very clear and obvious obvious free speech outside of very egregious examples of like threats and doxing and things like that which I think we can all agree right I think this problem might be one of the like one of the worst problems we're facing right now politically yes you know the Twitter is where public discourse is happening it's where journalists are and this is a problem sourcing a lot of their stories yes so if you have somebody who's completely removed from public discourse that that's exile you know I can I can imagine why some people kind of lose their minds and that happens and I think going into that conversation with him well that's what I wanted it to be that's why I don't really interview people any I kind of have conversations with them yeah occasionally we have disagreements and we you know we talk about things and you know but it's not I don't have like a mandate my only comment the only thing I wanted to get out of the conversation is I wanted to find out what it was like to start that organization and to have no idea when you were doing it that it was going to be essentially like one of the most important distribution at avenues for information an act an activist buddy an activist buddy of mine asked me if I knew why people smash windows smash Starbucks it's not because they think they're gonna cause damage it's because they want to strike a symbol down of something they view oppresses them mmm Jack Dorsey is that symbol to a lot of people and you know to see here you know what I was saying earlier is I think a lot of people look at you you're like a real dude you know your your conversations are real you have you're not one of these fake news journalists that people are very critical of that feel they're they're biased of an agenda so when you sit down Jack Dorsey and doesn't go anywhere people then feel like the last person who's not supposed to let us down let us down you know I mean yeah no I look I felt it twice as much I felt it and I noticed that I got you know more hate for that one than probably anything that I've ever done and you know I'm not a guy who shines away from criticism I try to figure out what I did wrong and try to regroup and figure out how to approach it again and in Jack's defense you know I think he's very open to talking about anything and also he's also very open for self-criticism I mean he was openly discussing what they're doing wrong where they need to be clear where they need to get better I don't believe any of it you know I don't trust that guy not at all you know why don't you trust him I mean first of all there's the obvious thing that is running these a bunch of companies I could be wrong but I believe he actually left Twitter he wasn't the CEO for a while they brought him back in or something but it either sounds like we check on that yeah yeah I you know I I try to avoid asserting
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Tim Pool is an independent journalist. His work can currently be found at timcast.com and on YouTube.
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