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This episode contains descriptions of sexual assault. When the Boy Scouts of America filed for bankruptcy this year, it created a final window for claims of sexual abuse against the organization’s leaders. Within nine months, nearly 100,000 victims filed suits — that far eclipses the number of sexual-abuse allegations that the Roman Catholic Church faced in the early 2000s. Today, we hear from one of the victims, Dave Henson, a 40-year-old naval officer who was sexually abused for five years by one of his scout troop’s leaders. Alcoholism and emotional trauma followed. Now, he has joined the ranks of thousands of people seeking redress. Guest: Mike Baker, Seattle bureau chief for The New York Times.  We want to hear from you. Fill out our survey about The Daily and other shows at: nytimes.com/thedailysurvey For an exclusive look at how the biggest stories on our show come together, subscribe to our newsletter. Read the latest edition here Background reading: The bankruptcy proceedings allowed the Boy Scouts organization to keep operating while it grapples with questions about the future of the century-old movement.The deluge of sex-abuse claims documents a decades-long accumulation of assaults at the hands of scout leaders across the nation who had been trusted as role models. For more information on today’s episode, visit nytimes.com/thedaily 
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03 Dec 2020
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This episode contains descriptions of sexual assault.

When the Boy Scouts of America filed for bankruptcy this year, it created a final window for claims of sexual abuse against the organization’s leaders.

Within nine months, nearly 100,000 victims filed suits — that far eclipses the number of sexual-abuse allegations that the Roman Catholic Church faced in the early 2000s.

Today, we hear from one of the victims, Dave Henson, a 40-year-old naval officer who was sexually abused for five years by one of his scout troop’s leaders. Alcoholism and emotional trauma followed. Now, he has joined the ranks of thousands of people seeking redress.


Guest: Mike Baker, Seattle bureau chief for The New York Times.


We want to hear from you. Fill out our survey about The Daily and other shows at: nytimes.com/thedailysurvey


For an exclusive look at how the biggest stories on our show come together, subscribe to our newsletter. Read the latest edition here


Background reading:

  • The bankruptcy proceedings allowed the Boy Scouts organization to keep operating while it grapples with questions about the future of the century-old movement.
  • The deluge of sex-abuse claims documents a decades-long accumulation of assaults at the hands of scout leaders across the nation who had been trusted as role models.


For more information on today’s episode, visit nytimes.com/thedaily

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We watched Ninja Turtles. Like master splinters sense, a ninja is always prepared. If you watch G.I. Joe. And he told me collected toys or anything like that. You know, he always collected the bad guys. I always collected the good guys. Typically, I would categorize myself as the good guy. I always wanted to be the hero. My grandparents on my father's side, my man-mom, Peppa, they were always watching gun smoke, gun smoke, John Wayne. I lived most of my life in the wild country. And he set a code of laws to live by. I wanted to be John Wayne. I liked how cool and composed he was. I won't be wronged. I won't be insulted. He was the hero. And he did it without hurting innocent people. And it was, it was a good role model. I won't be laid a hand on. I don't do these things to other people. I require the same from them. It was just what I watched all the time. But my brother and I, I guess we're spending too much time around the house with nothing to do. And so my parents kind of mentioned boy scouts. Do you remember your first impressions of sort of what the boy scouts were and what you were going to be doing there? Yeah. I mean, I thought we were going to be doing a bunch of camping and not tying. And I was super excited to chop wood and to use my pocket knife and climb trees. And that's kind of what I was looking to do. And, you know, there was a lot of new people and the uniform was cool at the time. And I was excited about it. I'm curious, just even at that age, you know, are you thinking that this is kind of an extension of your sort of good guy personality at that point? Yeah. I mean, that's, you know, their, their core values, boys of every height and weight and lung power, every age and creed and color. All of that, you know, trustworthy, kind, obedient, you know, those all things I could connect with. And from every county in the USA, they share only a driving zest for fun and an active quest for challenge and their great adventure of growing up. I remember when I first got there, they were

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This episode contains descriptions of sexual assault. When the Boy Scouts of America filed for bankruptcy this year, it created a final window for claims of sexual abuse against the organization’s leaders. Within nine months, nearly 100,000 victims filed suits — that far eclipses the number of sexual-abuse allegations that the Roman Catholic Church faced in the early 2000s. Today, we hear from one of the victims, Dave Henson, a 40-year-old naval officer who was sexually abused for five years by one of his scout troop’s leaders. Alcoholism and emotional trauma followed. Now, he has joined the ranks of thousands of people seeking redress. Guest: Mike Baker, Seattle bureau chief for The New York Times.  We want to hear from you. Fill out our survey about The Daily and other shows at: nytimes.com/thedailysurvey For an exclusive look at how the biggest stories on our show come together, subscribe to our newsletter. Read the latest edition here Background reading: The bankruptcy proceedings allowed the Boy Scouts organization to keep operating while it grapples with questions about the future of the century-old movement.The deluge of sex-abuse claims documents a decades-long accumulation of assaults at the hands of scout leaders across the nation who had been trusted as role models. For more information on today’s episode, visit nytimes.com/thedaily