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On Thursday, the Republican tax bill seemed to have all the momentum it needed. But a vote was delayed after a report found the calculations were off by a trillion dollars. Also, the White House has a plan to replace the secretary of state with the head of the C.I.A., and the head of the C.I.A. with a sitting senator. Guests: Jim Tankersley, who covers taxes and the economy for The New York Times; Peter Baker, The Times’s chief White House correspondent. For more information on today’s episode, visit nytimes.com/thedaily.
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On Thursday, the Republican tax bill seemed to have all the momentum it needed. But a vote was delayed after a report found the calculations were off by a trillion dollars. Also, the White House has a plan to replace the secretary of state with the head of the C.I.A., and the head of the C.I.A. with a sitting senator. Guests: Jim Tankersley, who covers taxes and the economy for The New York Times; Peter Baker, The Times’s chief White House correspondent. For more information on today’s episode, visit nytimes.com/thedaily.

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On Thursday, the Republican tax bill seemed to have all the momentum it needed. But a vote was delayed after a report found the calculations were off by a trillion dollars. Also, the White House has a plan to replace the secretary of state with the head of the C.I.A., and the head of the C.I.A. with a sitting senator. Guests: Jim Tankersley, who covers taxes and the economy for The New York Times; Peter Baker, The Times’s chief White House correspondent. For more information on today’s episode, visit nytimes.com/thedaily.