In the Vine Podcast

Unholy Impartation

Happy Thursday! Obviously, it's Halloween today. The girls and I had some thoughts. Tune in. Check it out. Let us know what you think.

Timestamps:

00:00 Introduction 🎃

00:29 Panel Question What are looking forward to this holiday season?

07:11 Dating Question Is he too close with his mom?

13:24 Should Christians celebrate Halloween?

14:20 Yesi's Answer 15:25 Denize's Answer

18:54 Shekinah's Answer 23:14 Melissa's Answer

26:58 Pumpkin Patches

28:39 How to help your family transition when you decide to no longer celebrate Halloween

32:22 Tip of the week Find what you're thankful for

32:57 Start a conversation and be blessed

Duration:: 33m
Broadcast on:: 31 Oct 2024
Audio Format:: other

- Hi everyone and welcome to another episode of In the Vine Connects with your host, Melissa. And here with me today I have Denise. - Shekinah. - Yes, she. - And we are continuing our topic of impartation. However, today we're gonna talk about unholy importation. (humming) Got the shivers. (laughing) So before though, ladies, what are you, or like it's the last episode of October, that means we're officially heading into the holidays. So what are you ladies looking forward to the most? - Food. (laughing) - Sorry, I was waiting for you. - My dad's turkey. - Ooh. - Yeah. - Tell us about it. Tell the viewers why-- - Tell the viewers we do it Mexican style. I don't know if that's the right word, but we deep fry it in the castle. So the way that you would make carmitas, like pork carmitas, you make it, but with the turkey. I'm just, my other day is like, "Mom, is grandpa gonna come and make us turkey?" (laughing) Like, it's such a staple. It is so good, it's crispy, it's tender, it's juicy. You add lemon, you add salt, you add like-- - Oh, okay. (laughing) - You add little tomatoes, and you do onions, and it's just a part of your mouth. - That sounds so good, guys. - That sounds so good. - It's so good, guys. (laughing) - Oh, and did I say lemon? Like, do you have lots of lemon? - Lots of it. - If you haven't done it. I know some people deep fry it, right? Like, they just put-- - No, no, no, no, no. - It's not that, that's what I pictured. - It's deep fried, but it's deep fried and lard, but my dad, he actually, it's a two-day process. - Oh my goodness. - So he cuts it up, he cleans it, he like, browns it one day, and then the next day, he fully cooks it. - Oh. (sighing) - Your life will never be the same. - Do you guys-- - So we're all going to be back out this time. - Yes, yeah, we do. - We do. - That's awesome. - Yeah. - You have some of the furries. - Oh yeah, from our little plant here, it's blessing you. - She has one, she has one. - And becoming the plant. (laughing) - That's why she has such a great eye for these things. (laughing) Okay, what about you ladies? What are you looking forward to? - I mean, the food, yes, absolutely. Family time, I love getting together with my family. My parents, everything's giving, they open up their home to whoever wants to come. But like Thanksgiving, that's my mom's day. - Yeah. - You don't touch it. It's my mom and my dad, but like my mom just takes over. And same thing, my dad just like, he marinates that turkey. It's like a, it's a multiple day process. My mom is cooking everything from scratch. Like my mom is not a cook. Well, she says she's not a cook. She's an amazing cook. She just doesn't cook. (laughing) But she saves up all that energy, all that goodness for that one day of the year. And it's just, you get all my mom's home cooking, everything from scratch is just, it's so good. It's so awesome. And yeah, I look forward to my mom's cooking every year 'cause it's just like the one time of year she'll go home. But it's so-- - Save me a plate. - I know, honestly, it's so good. And I just love that they open up their home. It's been that way since I was a kid. Our doors open. If you want to come by, if you want to have multiple Thanksgiving, if you don't have a Thanksgiving to go join my parents' home, guys, that's the one to join. It's just their doors open. It's not just restricted to family members. It's for anybody and everybody. - So I remember last year I showed up like around 10. - Yeah, we have people come in and out of the door like throughout the whole day. You know, they'll spend time with their family and then they'll come visit or, you know, whatever it is. And so it's every year it's somebody different. Every year we have different guests, but I absolutely love it. It's just great. - It's good. - That's beautiful. - You see? I have my house decorated for fall right now. - Oh, already? Oh my goodness, it's awesome. - Well, 'cause it's October. - Oh yeah, she's in the future. - I'm so sorry. - Yeah, I'm with it. - I'm not good out for this. - Yeah. - But I have like a bunch of totes full of Christmas stuff that I wasn't able to decorate my house with last year and I had purchased it a year before, right? Like bags and bags of Christmas. (laughing) - What? - I'm still stuck on that already and it's true, it's October, they're the worst. - Like, you're wearing a sweater. - I'm literally wearing a sweater. - I literally have a moon tan. (laughing) - I'm sorry, that was my fault. Go ahead, I just needed to get that out. - Like, you literally had just had your pumpkin size. - Literally, I'm sitting on a pumpkin right now, actually. (laughing) - Should we start that over? - No, it's great. - Okay. - So, I have a bunch of totes full of Christmas bags that I haven't even like opened because I bought them on sale and last year I moved into my house. But we lived in the back house so we definitely did not decorate for Christmas at all. It didn't feel like the holidays. Like, I live my house to feel a little cozy, you know? - Yeah. - Christmas-y, so this year is gonna be the first year I'm gonna be able to decorate our new house and actually use those items I bought on sale, right? - So cool. - And my daughter is more alert 'cause now that she's two, she knows everything and she likes to help decorate and she knows what things are. So, I'm just so excited for her to help me like decorate the tree and hopefully I don't get stressed out but I like it a certain way. So, I have a smaller tree that's gonna be her tree. So, I can decorate it more like kids-y and if she plays with it or whatever, I'm fine. Like, she gets her own little time. - Smart. - So, I'm excited for that. And then I'm also excited for just the holiday times. Like, it's always like on the run, right? Like, you're always on the run. Like, you're going here to this to this event. - But it's just so fun and like the weather. - Oh, yeah. - Sweater weather. - I already bought two vests. - Look at this. - Vests from my, uh-huh. - Costco from my like winter. - Ooh, girl. - I'm ready. - Wow. - Wow. - Well, we're already here. - You're ready. - I said winter now, huh? - Oh, Joe. - Oh my goodness. - You're ready. You're ready, okay. - What I'm looking forward to, of course, all of those things, but obviously the weather. I just love cold. I love, I'm enjoying it right now. I'm enjoying it right now. I love hiding with sweaters. I love being cozy with sweaters and just the vibe on like all the way around. There's just a piece in the air. So looking forward to that. I'm very excited. - Doing your Christmas drives to see the Christmas lights. - Oh my gosh, yeah. - With your little drink in the hand. - Dude, I warn people, I'm like, guys, I just want you to know, I'm Elf. I'm Will Ferrell's Elf during Christmas. Like, I know that yes, he matches that. So I'm just like, we come in our Christmas outfit. - I know, yeah, I love it. - I love it. - Yeah, it's gonna be so good. - The last two winters, I was in Ohio. So I think this is gonna be like the first one that I'm actually here. So it should be, because you said Christmas lights. We would love doing Christmas lights in Ohio. - Oh, I'm sure, yeah. - Just fly out to Ohio for that. - Yeah, I know. I'm coming Ohio. (laughing) Okay, so the dating question. I feel like he's too close with his mom, am I the problem? (humming) So what is too close? - Can this be just for the guy, or she is too close to her mom? - I think that can work too. - Okay, yeah. - Yeah, I think it can go either way, but I think it's more obvious when it's a man. You know, a man is supposed to be the more independent one, the one that goes out there. And so it's, I feel like there's a lot more leniency when a woman is dependent on her parents, you know? But when a man is extremely dependent on his parents, it just shows, and it just shows, to me it just shows the lack of maturity and the ability to go out and take care of himself, if that makes sense. So, yeah, I think that's definitely a red flag. But I think everyone has a different definition of too close, like you said, like what is too close? - Yeah, 'cause there's different situations like the man can be taking care of his elderly mom or something, you know? I think, let's just say in this scenario, that they put your, their mother's wishes or whatever, up on a pedestal and not take you into consideration. I think you are definitely not the problem. I think he's the problem, I think she's the problem. But I think if they're able to have like a place where he's able to be like, you know, this is my girlfriend or fiance or wife, like whatever she says goes mom, and I'm gonna stick by her side. I don't, and he loves her and he's close to her, but he's like, I give her her place before that. I don't think that's the problem. - Yeah, yeah, fair. - Yeah, I mean, yeah, I think there's like, it's relative, right? Closeness is like relative. But I think, yeah, when you're putting your mother's, we're talking about premarital, premarital, premarital. - Should live up, premarital. - Dating, dating, dating, dating. I think it's a good indicator of what it will be like when you're married, right? 'Cause basically how you do one thing is how you do everything. And so I find it that men that are very clingy to their moms before they're married tend to still be very clingy with their moms, even after they're married. I'm just currently helping a woman who's in that situation, you know, where her needs are not being, her and her kids' needs are not being put before like the mother-in-law. - Yeah. - So it's tough. And it's, and when we ask, like, "Oh, has he always been like that?" It's like, "Oh, yeah." So it's like, "Ugh." - You're agreed to that. - She would kind of agree to that, you know? And a lot of women think, "Oh, well, it was because I saw "that he was so good with his mom." And to some degree, yeah, like they would thought that he was gonna be that good with them, but it's like it's, yeah. - I think, sorry, I think it's a good indicator if he brings you into the relationship, right? Because then there'll be a small transition from the closeness with the mom, 'cause it makes sense. I think it can make sense when they're close with their mom, when they're single, or like, you know, that past their life. - Yeah, absolutely. - But once you start getting serious and he starts connecting both of you together, and there's a good jiving between you and the mom. - That's good. - I think that can also be an indicator, it's like, okay, like, he's not trying to keep one above the other, which obviously we know that when you get married, your wife is gonna be the one that takes president. But if he tries to create like that unity where the mom doesn't feel like, oh my son, like you're bridging them. - Yeah, you're bridging them. I think that that is a good indicator, but also I think too close would be that, right? When he's like, oh, like, I'd rather spend time with my mom than with you than it's a daughter. - Or let me call my mommy if I have to do that. - Yeah, I would say that a man isn't ready to be married if mom is still doing his laundry and cooking all of his meals. And pretty much still taking care of him as if-- - Paying all of his bills. Yes, that's a big one, paying all of his bills and taking care of him, you know, 'cause if he's in that kind of relationship with his mom still, I was saying it's a bad thing, but he's definitely not ready for marriage, it's not mature enough for marriage. You can't, or he's not willing to do those things on his own because then you'll be in comparison to that. Let's not how my mom did it. It's how my mom cooked it, it's how I, you know, and it's definitely, or he just doesn't do anything around the house at all and expects you to play the role of mom, which is a really perverted, yucky situation that you don't want to step into. And so I think that's a good indication of, okay, what is too close? Too close, I personally would say is, is mom still making all of his decisions? Is mom still paying his bills? Is mom still doing his laundry and cooking all of his meals that I would say is too close, and as an adult man, you should definitely stay away from that. And I think the reverse for women too. I think that, again, I don't think that a woman living at home or even a man living at home until they get married, is there anything wrong with that? But what does their independent lifestyle look like? And are they helping around the house? Are they helping pay the bills? Are they supporting themselves? - Yeah, I agree with that. That was actually gonna be a follow-up question, 'cause it's like you said, that there's more leniency on the woman depending on her parents, but it's true, I've seen that, and I've seen a lack of reliability with that, I think, because, and it depends on age, right? It depends on age because if you're 18, 19, 20, understandable, whatever. So when you become older, I've literally seen this play out how that shows you that, 'cause obviously you would like to marry somebody that's resourceful, right? So maybe that is able to get out and do the things, but if it comes to a certain age and there's still an a lack of independence, then it's just like, oh, what's going, can they build the home? You know what I mean? Are you gonna be the one supporting them? - Yeah, yeah. There's a difference between taking care of and building with, if that kinda ties it up. I don't know. - That was a great question. - It was a great question. Thanks, Shikaina. - You brought the thunder. - Yeah, you did. - Okay, so with that, today is obviously Halloween. And so you've seen the spooky decorations and you've probably been in the debates with your Christian friends, whether you should be celebrating Halloween or not, and you're just like, well, my intentions of the heart are not this or not that blah, blah, blah. And so today, we've come to be the final authority. - Don't do that. - Don't do that. - We've come to give you our opinion on celebrating Halloween because, you know, we've been talking about impartation. And there is such thing as unholy impartation. And so with that being said, girls, do you think that Christians should celebrate Halloween or maybe I shouldn't say should? Do you think it's okay for Christians to celebrate Halloween? No. - No. - Why? - As a whole now. - Why? - Why? - Because it's real. It really is real. - Like demonic kids' room. - Yeah, people who wear costumes and celebrate looking like witches and ghosts and goblins. And all of that is real. And if they really knew what the witches do, especially out here in the AVA, you know? People really wouldn't do what they're doing. And I've even, when I used to hike by my old house, I remember it was around this time. And there was a lady who claimed to be Christian, but she was at the very top. And it was witchcraft up there. Like she had all these spooky stuff, like doing things and saying, you know, whatever she was saying and, you know, yelling at my mom and I, manifesting. And I'm like, this is one of those witches, you know? That goes to the high places. And it's just really sad. And I know some of us like to mask it with like, well, the kids, you know, dress up. And I might get hate from some people who celebrate it, but it's more real than you think. So you having your children dress up that way, they're gonna be opening doors and gateways to what's in the, in the atmosphere, in the environment. And I don't, I don't think that your kids should be there either. - Or they become desensitized. - Yeah. - They become desensitized to what the demonic-- - I mean, with candy, of course, anybody can. - They, they, they, it gets kids at that age. Their brain is like action reward, right? So I'm going trick-or-treating. I'm celebrating demonic, but I get a reward of candy. So you're, in essence, descent, not only tricking, but you're desensitizing your children too, with a very spiritual world that there is out there. - Yeah. - Yeah. - And even with that, like, I know somebody that rescues cats. And so during Halloween time, they're very, they don't like let people adopt black cats because they kill them. - Oh my God. - And so you have to be very careful with the black cats during Halloween, like October time. And when they first told me, I was like, dude, you're kidding. They're like, no, like it's a really real thing out here. And like, they literally try to get black cats to do whatever it is that they do. And so that's kind of scary. Like you said, it's, it's crazy. Like if people really realized what it was, like, there's nothing, nothing, like, I don't want to say it. What's the word? There's nothing good about pretending in Halloween, like, at all. - Yeah. - I don't understand why people want to open up that portal. - Right. - Right. - For the sake of one night. - Yeah. - For the sake of protocol. - Yeah. - Well, it's like the feeling of it, of the season, right? 'Cause I know for myself, like, Hocus Pocus was like always on my, my TV, growing up. - Yeah, I still love that movie, I'm not gonna. - Yeah, and I love that movie. And then now it's like, just even knowing, like, the Hocus Pocus 2 came out, I'm like, oh my gosh. I can't even watch it. Like it's not the same now that we know the reality in it. And it kind of makes you, like, even try to teach your children that, like even going to Home Depot right now at the season isn't the same. Like, you have to, like, teach your child, like those are not good things. - Yeah, for sure. Well, one, my birthday's near Halloween. So I always, am I in, I, I threw Halloween parties. Like, I was known for how I threw some awesome Halloween parties, right? 'Cause I didn't know better. - Yeah. - But then you're like, oh my gosh, now what I do. So now it's like, I've had to re-shift my whole birthday celebrations from, and it sucks because wherever I go, everything's Halloween, right? And even with the girls, like, we really try our best not to go to a lot of places during Halloween time, unfortunately, because my girls are not desensitized to the demonic realm. Because I've always been extra strict with, we don't celebrate Halloween, we don't tolerate witches, we don't, I'm that parent that's extra. And I'm okay because I know that as they grow older, like this is, the world is gonna try to, like, you know, desensitize them or whatever. And that's the world the world's gonna do. But if I am extra strict in that area, at least they'll be self aware, right? And they are, and so because they're not desensitized, I don't even have to say anything. We can pass by a psychic's house, and they'll tell me, mom, that's a witch's house. They'll know, but it's because I've cultivated of, hey, there's a very real demonic realm. The devil is real, and God is real. Like both of these beings exist. What are we gonna do, right? So it's cultivating that, teaching that. And if you waver at all, you mess with their mind because they're so malleable, they're so young, and they don't understand concrete and abstract, thinking it's like a very real thing, right? Like they're concrete thinkers at this small age. I have a seven, a six, and a five-year-old. So they're concrete, like it's black and white. That's it. So if we introduce gray, then you just mess them up. - Yeah, yeah. No, and I grew up in a home. My parents waivered a lot. There was some years that we celebrated Halloween. The next year it was like evil, demonic. We weren't allowed to celebrate. And then the next year they'd be like, "Well, we can do this." And we actually waivered on it a lot growing up throughout my entire childhood. It was some years it was absolutely okay. Some years it wasn't. Some years it was okay. - Like a chunk or a tree top. - Yeah. Well, and yeah, we did a lot of church harvest festivals. And so that was definitely something that we did. And so, but one thing my parents always taught me, growing up, like, look it up. That's my dad's motto, look it up. Even as we were growing up, look it up, you know, and determine, like, you know, like just, and read for yourself what it is. Like we have our rules, we have our strict rules, but as far as developing your own conscience about it, look it up. And so even like Harry Potter, you know, I wasn't allowed to watch Harry Potter growing up. And I still haven't watched it because my parents always told me, look it up. And so I did. And when I found out that the spells they're using in this movie are real life spells that witches use and that utilize repeating those things, listening to those things, it is opening the door to the demonic. It's not just a cute movie. It's actual spells that are being used. And then I found out that even charmed, I always had a weird, I've always had a conviction with charmed. Like my friends watched it in college and I could not give it a chance. And when I looked it up, they're using real life spells. They're actually using like legitimate, to the point where the writer admitted in an interview that witches would contact them and tell them, you're playing with fire. If you don't know what you're doing, you should not be using these things. Like they had witches telling them and warning them, you are playing a very dangerous game. And they like laughed it off 'cause it was just whatever, you know, but they're sharing this in an interview, like it's funny. And I'm just saying they're like, yeah, you know, and so we have to be careful about what we watch, what we read and what we engage in. And when we, again, look it up. You can see that Halloween is, Halloween is just, it's pulled from so many different cultures, but the root of most of these cultures and that it's pulled from is the day of the dead, right? A lot of cultures celebrate the day of the dead. So when we all migrated over to America, we kind of meshed all of our cultures, all of our beliefs and our religions and our traditions together. You know, so there is aspects of it that are just, we're celebrating the harvest time. And those are aspects of it that weren't really rooted in any kind of witchcraft or, you know, wickedness, but it got meshed in with all of this day of the dead stuff because it was just, it all fell around the same time of the year. It was all different cultures. Let's just put it together. So it's, we're celebrating the harvest and we're also celebrating dead people. And we're just gonna mesh it all together and we're gonna form it into this one big cultural American thing. You know, and so it's so easy to, I know that I have personally just picked apart. Well, this part is okay, this part isn't. This part is okay, this part isn't. 'Cause I like went into like heavy like research of it. And like I've been in so many debates with Christians trying to debate like, well, it's okay if I do this aspect, but not this aspect. This aspect's okay, but not this aspect. And you start to form a gray area, especially for our children, they don't understand that gray area. It's either all or nothing, and witches really do love this holiday. I've grown up, we had witches in our church, saved, former witches, but growing up, that's what they taught us. And they were like, we love Halloween. We loved, right? They were saved at the time, but we loved Halloween. That was a time for us to really thrive. That was a time where people were the most desensitized and we can do our work. So it is something that we do have to be so careful about as Christians because it's not just dressing up. It's not just about candy. It's not about just this cute holiday that we can come together on. It's about really being aware that anyone who operates in the demonic is really thriving on that day because you're desensitized by the lights and the fun and the colors and the dressing up, and they get to do their work. And so I would highly suggest and highly recommend that every Christian just do not celebrate Halloween, utilize that as a day to minister, as a day to pray, as a day to cover your children and form different traditions. Thank you. Traditions that are completely outside of Halloween. So they could still have fun, but in a way that's not in any way associated with it. - Yeah, and honestly, I think even within ourselves and even with children, it's like, a lot of parents do like the festival of lights, the pumpkin things because they don't want their kids to feel like they're missing out on something, but why not? Like they're missing out on demonic stuff. So if you teach them that it's not that they're missing out on, but instead they're gaining something, right, then that's different. It's all the perspective shift. And moreover, like if you're sitting here, right, and you're like, should I, should I not, but this and this and that, it's like, bro. - Yeah. - At the end of the day, it's like, first and foremost, a lot of people, they rely on that scripture and I would 100% a wholeheartedly agree with First Thessalonians 522, where it says from abstain from all appearance of evil, right? So, but honestly, that can be portrayed in so many different ways down to what we watch, whether it be Halloween stuff or not Halloween stuff. Like it's things like that, right? So as Christians, we gotta be like that across the board, right? Because we can't just be like, Oh, for Halloween, we're gonna rely on this scripture. And like, people over the head with it, but not live our entire lives like that. That's not fair either, you know? But at the end of the day, I think if you're really sitting here, splitting hairs about it, I'm gonna tell you what, one of the things that my mentor tells me, she's like, well, just go with the side of caution and just make it a no. Like if you're having doubts about it, just make it a no, like dedicate that day onto the Lord, even if you don't go out and if you don't go ministering, then be like, you know what, God, today, I'm gonna spend a day and I'm gonna rejoice with you and I'm gonna pray with you or I'm just gonna be at home with my family and I'm gonna make it a thing to just be purposeful and connecting with you. And if you're not able to give up one day for the Lord, hello, then there's a deeper root there, right? That needs to be acknowledged. And so if you're sitting here, like, you know, 'cause there's Christians in our human design, I don't know why it is that we try to get away with as much as possible. And I remember with Denise, she actually brought me conviction one day 'cause we were talking about the pumpkin patches and stuff. And I was like, well, you know, like what about that? You know, and then you were like, because if it's confusing for my kids to associate the demonic in one round, but then tell them that they can celebrate it in another round, and I was like, oh, that's really good. And so it's true, right, and again, it's hard, right, because we can't just follow that train of thought. And one thing, like, we gotta do it in the whole thing. And so for my fellow Christians, what I would like to encourage you guys, because I've also seen this and this is such a folly that we do on Facebook, on Instagram and all these things. What happens is that we start getting super religious when it comes to this, and I get it. Like, there's this level of intolerance that has to be against the demonic realm, but not against people. Like, there has to be grace and there has to be conversations, right? It's the reason why we're having this episode because it's like, hey, you know what? Like, if you're struggling with it out of this, like the Bible tells you up and down to warn people, right? Like, don't open these gates, don't open these things. Like, don't make yourself susceptible to them because the thing about the demonic realm is it's like, oh, you guys, it's only for Halloween that they're allowing us to do this. Like, the demonic realm, as soon as you allow it a foothold, it's gonna take the entire enchilada, okay? They're not just gonna go in for a bite. And so it's just like, you know, like, you gotta get to this and to your own conviction, whatever, at the end of the day, how you interpret the Bible, it's how you interpret the Bible. And I'm not, and I don't even necessarily think that it's like one of those things like you're gonna go to hell for it, but at the end of the day, it's like, okay, well, like, what kind of boundaries, what kind of setups, what kind of standards you wanna have, right? Like, if one of my Christian friends decides to end the set up by Halloween and that sucks, I'm not gonna partake with you, but, you know, I'm still your friend and I still love you. Like, for sure. Like, I have mom friends that will take their kids to a pumpkin patch school. I'm not gonna cut. I want pumpkin patch. Yeah. I want pumpkin patch, but it's not Halloween. Yeah. Yeah. It's more-- It's preference, like, it's preference, I guess? And I don't want Halloween. Yeah, yeah, that's-- But that's not something that I do with my kids. You know what I mean? Like, when we drive by down, like, the L, they know. In the beginning, when they first saw it, they're like, oh, my gosh, mom, can I go? And I'm like, unfortunately, we can't gross it. There's Halloween stuff, you know, we don't celebrate. They're like, oh, yeah, 'cause that's of the devil and it's witches. And I'm like, yeah, so here you have three kids that would love to go to jumpy houses, right? But every time we drive by there, now they know we're gonna pray, we're gonna rebuke it. We're gonna do, do, do, do, do, do, because they know, hey, this is demonic. So they have come to a realization at their age that I don't care how fun it looks. If there's any demonic attached to it, I want no part in it. And that's my goal with my kids, is to teach them concepts so they can critically think for themselves and be able to equate one thing with the other. I don't just tell them no for the sake of it. I teach them why. And so now they're able to correlate it. Oh, it might be fun, cool, but you know what? It's not worth it if there's a witch associated to it. And I say witch because that's what they understand at this age, you know? And even, I'm not saying that I won't get a pumpkin at home and like try to make a pumpkin pie or whatever, you know, like we do that, but they know. So now they know, like if there's two pumpkins and one's carved, and they're like, oh, that's a jack of lantern, that's Halloween, but we can have a pumpkin that's not carved. So they're able to that degree, like, you know, like differentiate between the two. Yeah, it's because we consistency. And for our listeners, as just, I wanna point out that it's so much more difficult to make the change when you've already been selling braiding it, especially if you have kids. And I say that from personal experience. 'Cause like I said, my parents went back and forth for so many years. In fact, when I say back and forth for so many years, I don't think they finally settled on like a real legitimate, okay, this is, we're done completely until I was a teenager. And by then, I had developed like my friends all went out. I went out with my friends. I loved Halloween horror nights. Like, I love that. Yeah, like I loved going. So especially when you're a kid, my parents trying to tell me, we don't celebrate Halloween anymore. And I was like, okay, you don't celebrate Halloween anymore. I celebrate Halloween, you know, and that was definitely something that, you know, looking back on it, I was not a rebellious kid, but for some reason, Halloween, I was just like, no. Like, this is fun. This is the time for me and my friends. This is the time for me to go out and get candy. Like, I'm still short enough. I can get extra. I can't, I still can. I still can. Hey, even as an adult in college, I would just go put on a random, like just a cheap costume, something I can quickly make. And I would just go through the neighborhood around my college and just get free candy. And my friends loved me for it. It's been for the week. Yeah, exactly. It's been for the week, you know, so. But what I'm trying to say is that I recognize that if you've been celebrating it, especially if you have kids who have developed the habit of celebrating it, you have traditions, you have friends, they have friends that are trying to push them and encourage them into it. Just follow your convictions. Yeah, for sure. The end of the day, repent, follow your conviction. And I'm not saying that your teenager is gonna fall in line, they might not. But at the end of the day, the best thing you can be at that point is an example. And that's what my parents wear for me, is at that point, they were an example. 'Cause believe it or not, they didn't even stop me from going out with my friends. So long as it was at least at a church. You know what I mean? At least, okay, at least you're going to a church. At least they're good Christian friends. But at that point, it was just, but it wasn't until they started leading by example, 'cause they stopped wavering, they finally settled on. This is what we're doing. They started just leading by example, and they again, look it up. That's all we're gonna say, just look it up. And so maybe even as a family, especially if you have young kids, instead of celebrating, why don't we learn the history of it, you know what I mean? And you guys can just go through the history of it. And there's a, I think there's a history channel documentary about it too, you know? That gives a lot of light up to the wickedness that it's just rooted in. - It's mainly invoking spirits. - Exactly, exactly. So I think, you know, again, I'm just, I wanna talk to people who just have kids, and it's gonna be difficult to get your kids to transition out of that mindset more than anything, 'cause it's for them, it's fun. So how do you do that? I think just start taking things away and teaching them. Don't just take it away, like just you're the mean parent that just took away our fun. But really implement the teaching aspect. Learn it for yourself and teach your kids. - Yeah, that's really good. - And if it's one thing that I know about the Lord, is that the Holy Spirit will do a work in your hearts. And the Holy Spirit is co-parent, right? He is the parent, and so it's just like, if you commend yourself to the Holy Ghost, the Lord will also partner up with you to change the heart of your kids. I've heard countless testimonies about that. Actually, Isaiah 54 says that the Lord would teach your children, and so you hang on to that scripture as you are trying to change traditions, and also you are the child of the Lord. So ask the Lord to peel back the layer, and he will. The Lord loves to expose the demonic realm. Are you freaking kidding me? He loves to give us eyes to see in your see here. So don't shy away, don't hide from the Lord, bring it to the Lord, and he will, of course, allow you and empower you and give you the grace and the mercy to be able to honor him. Are you freaking kidding me? That's what he loves to do. He gives us the power to love him. All right, so with that being said, the tip of the week, this week is to get away, yes? Since tomorrow will be November 1st. How about you find what you're thankful for this year and really embrace it? So whether it's family, friends, your work, obviously Jesus, but really embrace it, live it out, especially this month. Yeah, I love it, that's a really good one. All right, you guys, thank you so much for tuning in. We hope that you enjoyed this episode. Let us know your thoughts. We know that it's a bit controversial. - Tabit. - Just a tad bit. But we hope, we actually do hope that we were full of some feathers and that we started up a conversation because, I mean, hello. 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