1973 Podcast
1973 Podcast Episode 89
And so, ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls children of all ages, it is time once again for the annual Halloween episode, so we're coming correct, couple newbies, no professor, they really hit it out of the pack last year, so definitely miss, let's get right into it. Ed, we're changing them up the format, we've been looking to work into some movies, into this podcast, so we're going to scrap the email for a little bit, and we're going to start with some movie talk, Ed, wait a second, and then we'll talk about the movie. Alright, so we're, like you said, we are switching gears, you know, so we've decided that the email thing is going to kind of bog down a little bit of kind of like a little slow action, if you will, so we're switching to some movies now, so this is going to be the lead into the movie, so what's that mail? Movie of the week! Movie of the week! So this is brought to you by Hey Podcast Fans, are you ready to show up for the 1973 podcast? 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Phantom, are you the, that meme of that guy on the plane? Is that who you are? I'm just a Burger King. You know what I'm talking about? Yeah. So can everybody see that? Yeah, yes. Alright, so I want to hit this and see if we could kind of play this. How gay are you? So obviously we can't, we at Brad knows we can't show the volume or the audio, so this is the trailer for the movie that we're talking about, the original trailer, Halloween. Do you see this ad up here? Yes, we do. Hey, Clocky, I think we see a history over here on the side, buddy. Yeah. Hey, did you pass? That's all I want to know. You're right. What are you here for? I can't see it. You're lucky. Oh my god, that is fantastic. That's great. If I slowly watch the movie, yeah, no, probably not. So, really cool. The first Halloween was probably the entry level into the Slasher films, I would think 78. The original one out. It's the original Slasher film. Ray brought up a couple of good points about the movie before we went on the air about supposed to take place in Hadenfield, Illinois, but Ray, do you want to add to it? Yes, supposed to take place there, but they were filming in Pasadena in the fall, which is not a lot of leaves, it's mostly palm trees, so they would go out in the country, gather up bags of leaves, stage it with the leaves on the ground and everything for one scene, then they would bag everything up, go to the next scene and do the same thing over again. Yeah, epic story in that first Halloween kind of left you hanging at the end before there was actually horror movie sequels that kind of took on their own franchise, so really cool. Yeah, did y'all notice in that one scene of Michael Myers is wearing the sheet over instead of ghost costume? Yeah, super weird watching Alan back. Yeah, yeah. That was before we found the William Shatnam mask. Yeah, I was working towards that, definitely working towards that. Super weird. Some of those scenes just did not age well. Yeah, kind of kicked off Jamie Lee Curtis as, you know, that iconic character, you know, thoughts on the Jamie Lee Curtis thing, like the whole movie career kind of turned into a little strange towards the end, but she's the original screen queen. Yeah, which is not only that, but she was in the original fog. Yeah, she was. And that's the only horror movies ever scamming. Yeah, Fox TV show called Scream Queens. And I think Jamie Lee Curtis came out in that. Yeah, the first couple episodes of that were pretty good after that. It gets pretty stupid. Too young to see the Halloween, the first one and the second one in the theater. But once they got to, I think the first one I saw in the theater is Fire's Horror movies was probably the 13th pop four, too young for age restricted movies back then. But thoughts on the first Halloween epic iconic, of course, epic, the original. Yeah. Yeah, I'm a huge fan of this franchise, man. Like, I love horror movies and Halloween was like my first like delve into that genre. I don't even remember the first time I saw it, but you know, it has all the classic iconic horror movie themes. First of all, they don't do this in movies anymore. The musical score in this film is on point. Like, you know, when it gets tense, because the music gets tense, you know, when it's a chum all because the music is chill, they don't do that in movie and horror movies anymore. Horror movies now is jump scares, gore, blood and guts and slashing. This movie, you really don't see that much blood and guts. It has the iconic. If you commit a sin, you're going to die theme, right? If you have underage sex, you die. If you drink beer, you die. If you smoke cigarettes, you die. The only person who doesn't dies, Jamie Lee Curtis. But what does she do the whole movie? She babysits and crochets. The cabin runs a lot. Yeah, she smokes half a blunt, you know what I'm saying? You know, it's it's it's a great movie. It pretty much set the bar for the rest of the horror genre. They made four sequels after it's a John Carpenter flick, by the way. So the master of horror himself and a two HT H2O remakes, which also star Jamie Lee Curtis. Then they made like a H4O series of three films with Jamie Lee Curtis. She like just keeps riding it and riding it. I'm not a fan of those ones. And Rob Zombie made a two part movie series, which if you like the original Halloween, and this might be blasphemy to people that are John Carpenter fans. But Rob Zombie's remake of Halloween was incredible. I loved it almost as much as the original. Even the second one was really good. Rob Zombie, some of his horror flicks, he had some misses because some of his shit got super weird for me. But his remake part one and two of Halloween. Incredible. So go check these check them all out, man. They're all fun Halloween movies. Yeah, I thought on the first Halloween. Oh, dude, let's get the hell out of me with a house younger. I saw that and see him with the with the freaking mask on and shit like, dude, that scared the hell out of me. And then I saw him like later on. I didn't see him in 1978. I mean, I was four and a half, you know. Certainly wasn't watching those movies back then. But I mean, when I saw it the first time, I think it was some time middle high school. I mean, I scared the hell out of me. You know, I'm not a big horror booby guy. So that's not my genre. But I mean, I can certainly appreciate, you know, something that I think when they made it for what's, what was it? $70,000 or something like that? Yeah, that's how I say it was crazy. And to see, you know, like how it's kind of just compounded over and over and over again, it definitely had legs. You know, didn't get a chance to watch it again, obviously. But you know, I remember being like, yeah, okay, that freaked me out, you know, just because it was so suspenseful, you know, yeah, that that was kind of one of those movies that you lead into the video rentals. And when people started really collecting movies for like the home library, that's kind of the exorcist, the Friday, the 13th and in the Halloween movies were kind of what you you base your your initial buys on, you know, definitely the classics from the 80s genre. I would put that in it, you know, before I put even the Texas Chainsaws and that stuff, even though I'm a huge Texas Chainsaw Massacre fan, the first one, really well done. But we'll get into all that stuff. So any thoughts on Halloween for the Halloween episode before we move on? Anybody got anything? One quick fun, though. The guy that played Michael Myers, Tony Moran, his sister was a Joni from Happy Days. Oh, I remember ran. Yeah, yeah, fun fact. Wanna weigh in? Yeah, I was gonna say, I think the guy that played Dr. Loomis is like super underrated as an actor. Oh, yeah, definitely, definitely. Most of the acting in the movie was probably pretty bad, but probably so bad adds to its greatness. Well, it's not the Woomis goes and he's the one telling all the backstories on Michael Myers and all that. He's really what made it super intriguing along with the, you know, the one key piano riff to no dangers coming, but definitely probably my top five are movies of all time. Yeah, Ray, you want to weigh in on the double pleasant thing about him filming a day? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, he is in a heat film, all of his parts for the first movie in one day. He had obligations with other films and had to deal with. So he agreed to do it only if he could fit it in one day, and he did. He also, fun fact played one of the Bullfield characters as a James Bond villain. So you don't fact about Donald Pleasant. Sorry, that's our first take on movies. We're gonna, we got a lot to talk about when it comes to that stuff. So, what's that talking? Finselman documentary episode four goes from the Montreal screw job to Owen, the Fallen in '99. So, take away, Phantom. What do you think? Episode four. I would say so, so far, I would think, I think it's the best episode of the ones that we've covered, kind of, you know, jumps right in right off the rip with Sean Michaels and Triple H starting to really get into all the the comedy that was perfect for us at the time when we were watching it because we were all like, you know, mid 20s and eating alive, all the dick jokes and all that kind of shit. So, that was, that was, that was, that was pretty good. They kind of, you know, rolls into, like, them just changing with, you know, you know, they talked about, like, Vince and when they were doing the current call talk about, they ruined Kayfabe and all that, but then, you know, when they decided to go to the attitude ever, they got Vince coming out, when he actually, like, announces the world, like, they have changed in their format of how they're going to stop doing, uh, doing their characters and doing their storyline. So, it was already heading in that direction. I think, by that point, everybody knew that the rest of them were the real. So, I mean, you look back on it, it doesn't really make all that much of a difference, but I'm sure there was a lot of people that, uh, that, that might have bothered them. Brad, I know you got something on this episode. Well, I mean, I didn't even finish the episode. I, I'm just checking right now. I think I quit watching it with, like, 20 minutes left because it wasn't anything groundbreaking. Like, they, they went a little bit in a Vince McMahon's past and he talked about who he could fight and he used to beat people up and he wasn't afraid of anybody. And I was like, it's like you said a few weeks ago. I was like, where's all that? Like, I want to see, I know the Vince McMahon at WWE WWF, and they alluded to it a couple of times. They were like, there was Vince, the character, there was Vince, the human being, and that line got blurred. I already knew that. There's a lawsuit right now that says we already know that. So, I wanted to see, and I guess I have really high expectations for the, the documentary. So, I'm like, really like down every week because they've, so far, they've only talked about stuff we've already seen at Darkside and WWE versus, or WCW, well, what killed the WCW rather. So, we've already seen, like, all this information and it's not presenting anything new. And then we heard the Vince, like, sued and tried to get this thing shut down. It's all like, oh, there's got to be something juicy. And there's a few more episodes. So, maybe there's something juicy in there, but so far, I'll kind of let down on it, man. Like, am I missing it? Or am I just not seeing the good stuff? Because there's a whole world of Vince McMahon, his youth growing up, what shaped him, his formative years, relationship with his dad. He used to beat people up, all this other stuff. And then he goes and marries kind of like the ugly is broad in town. Like, I don't get that. I feel like Vince and Matt could have done a lot better than, than that. But now there's this other information coming out on the Angel Show's podcast that Ed sent to me about Vinnie Mack, basically being the V Diddy, a Bressel. So, I like, I don't know, man, like, we're only getting like, we're not even getting the tip of the iceberg. We're getting like this, like a spec. And so, I don't know, I'm not same stuff, man. Where do you know it? So, yeah, I'm kind of a little disappointed too. When the episode started and they had him talking about how when he was a kid, and he was a big fan of Dr. Jerry Graham, I'm like, oh, finally, here we go. We're going to get something. But I want to kind of call bullshit a little bit because he said he was this big fighter, but yeah, Brad had grabbed you in a headlock and almost knocks you out. So, how tough were you actually? That's, that's, I'm just trying to take in all these different things about him. And he said that the Mr. McMahon character was nothing like him. And then everybody else says, even Hulk Hogan, who, you know, likes to bend the truth a lot, they all said that he's exactly like that. They're not that far off. So, what is really, you're not getting anything about him at all. You're getting a history of the WWE. That's what you're getting, would maybe a little bit of stuff that you didn't know, but they're leaving out so much about him. That first episode should have been the best episode where they gave you all the the backstory, the biography, and you got nothing. And still, you get nothing. And it's just, it's just crazy how he met Dr. Jerry Graham. His father said you can go for a car ride with him, and he was flying through the streets of New York, blowing through red lights. I want to hear all that stuff. That's the stuff. And how he bleached his hair blonde, because he liked them so much. And then you hear later on, and they didn't even touch on it in the 80s episode where the million dollar man character was originally Vince's idea, if he was ever a wrestler. So, you know, everybody's got a price and all that stuff kind of leads into the story of all the accusations coming out. You know, so they're leaving so much out in it. It's such a, such a letdown for me, especially loving the history of wrestling and trying to pick up these tidbits for talking points. I'm just disappointed with it. Ed, do you want to weigh in? Yeah, I'm just disappointed. I mean, it's they're not going to echo what everybody else is saying. They're not adding anything due. You know, I mean, like, it would have been nice if they gave more of a backstory and kind of really laid out, you know, the whole Owen thing, you know, because like, look, I always, there was what I always thought of Owen as a character. You know, I, there was always like, he, he, he did such a great job making it seem like he was the bratty little brother, you know, and like when the, and you go back and you watch like the table of how smooth he was in the ring, and you look back at like, how really good of a ring technician, both he and Brett were, you know, like, and then to see that happen. And I mean, even we're still talking, you know, 30 years later, the hatred from the Hart family to Vince and the WWE slash WWF because of what happened. I mean, I mean, Andy, I mean, when you went three years ago when AEW really was alive and kicking and everything like that, I mean, they were doing that whole thing. I mean, was it two years ago when they did the thing for, for the Hart Foundation, you know? Oh, yeah. So I mean, like, you know, they couldn't really go in a different angle with that. You know, like, the bottom line is, is that with Vince and everything like that, like, look, you know, he's, I mean, he's, you know, he's the CEO or former CEO of a multi million dollar company. Like, you don't get to that point by not being somewhat, somewhat somehow shady. You know, you think about like, the snooker thing, you know, like how he got snooker off, you know, allegedly, you know, and so like, there's like, you know, there's all these things and the trials that he had, you know, like, it was almost like, when he tried, when he tried to buy the, when he, what was it, he bought IFPB, the bodybuilding thing, and then put Lex is kind of like the poster boy. And it kind of like, it was almost like he was trying to kind of like shield the WWF slash E with that by doing that because now we're doing bodybuilding stuff. I mean, you could have really kind of dove into that too, you know, and they didn't, you know, and I mean, we all love the attitude area. I mean, Shagan, I, I mean, we skipped class to go to WrestleMania and, uh, that's all plasma embossed. We saw, we saw DX show up in a little bit like with Mike Tyson, you know, any, uh, any thoughts on anything else about that crappy episode. Like the only thing that I disagree with is I had heard multiple different times that Vince's inner circle, uh, would give him, you would have to make a videotape of anybody that was coming that wanted a job with the WWF. Uh, he didn't even know ECW existed until somebody put a, I think it was shame game the videotape. And it's, it just blows my mind that certain things they'll say that they created like the attitude era. I, I think they stole a lot from ECW to tell you the truth. I mean, the CW sat in like 93, but didn't really get to, you know, violent ish until 95. So that's way before the attitude era. They were doing that stuff ahead of time. It's just people didn't see it on a grand scale. It's like, uh, being an indie band and all of a sudden you get signed by, you know, a big label and now everybody knows Green Day. It's like that kind of thing. That's kind of what they did with the ECW kind of style. Um, even like they were doing the luchas stuff in ECW before WCW and, and WWE. So it, I, I got to call bullshit on a lot of that stuff. I really, really do. Look what they did with Mick Foley. They turned him into mankind because everywhere he had been before that, he was cacked the shack, but that wasn't what they wanted. They want, they still wanted goofy characters. So it's just, I'm just very disappointed with it. I'm glad we talk about it because it, because it is great talking points, but they're totally dropping the ball. But if they want guys to produce or at end, we could always, uh, that's right. Loads up on a plane, baby. Yeah. You guys think that Mr. McMahon versus Austin is the greatest rivalry of all time in wrestling? Absolutely not. They made, that made a lot of money. What'd you say? What's that? What'd you say? I was gonna say, do you think that Mr. McMahon versus Stone Cold is the greatest rivalry in wrestling history? It's pretty big. Have a good talking point. That's a great question. Around the Monday Night Wars. But Ryan, did it make a lot of money? Sure. And did the angle work really well? Because I mean, you know, think about it as like, you know, being up your boss, right? I mean, so of course, it's going to make a lot of money and stuff like that. I mean, I can name, I mean, I can name, let's see. Road Warriors versus Midnight Express, you know, Dusty Rose versus Rick Flitch. Just name two off that just right off the cuff that are way better than, or Midnight Express versus Rock and Roll Express. I mean, those were better, you know, you know, versus the freebirds. I mean, you know, the thing about Stone Cold versus Vince McMahon is that it wasn't just employee versus boss, which a lot of working people gravitated towards. Vince McMahon was the quintessential perfect heel for wrestling, which they don't have right now. And they haven't had since like, there hasn't been a heel that dominant in the industry since Vince McMahon. And then Stone Cold wasn't like, he wasn't just like the good guy. He was the antihero good guy. Like, he was good, but like did bad things. And we love to watch good guys do bad things, like spray their boss down with a beer truck. You know what I mean? That antihero thing is kind of like the Punisher kind of character. You know, that's, that's kind of his kind of comparison. But the McMahon Austin feud is what took them back to first place and broke up the 83 weeks of WCW running the show. That's, you got to give credit with credit too. I can't, I'm not a Vince McMahon fan. I've never been a Vince McMahon fan even as a kid. I thought it was awful. But you got to give credit with credit too. That's um, that's the thing that kind of turned the corner with them. But the thing about the attitude era is a lot of people think it went on for like six years and only went on for like three years. One scene I came on at Orton and Batista and Brock Lesnar was done. They tried, but it was, I think they definitely hot shot in the territory as they used to call it for a short amount of time. There's not a long shelf life in that. Maybe to go back to it every now and then with him. But look at it, they would kind of like keep him on the hook. And then he would like, he fought flair. He fought all over again. He fought a couple of other people like that just to keep that character going. But I think the biggest thing was, is it the greatest, beautiful time? I don't know. But that is a great, great question there, Phantom. Awesome question. Yeah, we'll have to delve into that. I mean, did a jar of shitload of money? Yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. That's a great February question. Yeah, he had his uh, as usual kind of had a, had a pulse for it where it was like, everybody's hating me right now and I'm gonna run with this. So yeah, McMahon hate him. You're making him money. I kind of disagree that I don't really think the attitude era started with the, with the, uh, click thing, uh, the curtain call. I think it's sad a little later than that. I think it started right with the screw job. I would say that with the McMahon character kind of turn it. That, that, that was, and if you look at it, I don't know if it was intentionally starting as a heel. I think he was kind of looking for sympathy with that Brett Screw Brett thing. And I think the fans are the one that kind of turns him into a heel. Yeah. Like, uh, what Brad was saying last week that, you know, he was going to come out and be like Brett Screw Brett because of, you know, he's trying to hijack us here and, and it didn't go his way and then he just ran with it. Yeah. Yeah. I think the best question that somebody asked him in that, uh, whole documentary for the first four episodes was when they asked him if he felt that, uh, when WCW was taking the talent, if that was like how he felt when he was, you know, kind of tearing up the territory, stealing talent and he looks and he says, absolutely no. Uh, you, you're just, you're just an asshole when you say that. Yeah. I mean, then anybody would have reigned in their head to say, and the per yourself was trying to do to you what you were doing to other people. So it's all, it just didn't work out because, you know, their machine and Vince will surround himself with, with people that will, will make that company better. And you know, that's why he's lawyering up now. So, you know, I wouldn't be surprised if he skates on that too. So we'll, we'll see how that plays out. So, any more to add on episode four, should we get, uh, the goal with some sports top? Actually, um, I haven't seen any of these yet, and I plan to the suite. Just been watching them. Now, how many are there? Six altogether, right? All right. All right. Now this six. And, uh, you guys have said that they left this out, left that out. Do you think that they're purposely leaving all this stuff out for something else down the road? Well, that's a good question too. I don't know. I, you know, like maybe this is like, uh, like the, uh, the first half for six episodes and I have six other ones after that. I don't know. I think, uh, I don't think so. There's a disclaimer in there too, right? About, um, yeah, they mentioned the lawsuits and stuff, but I, I think Netflix and Vince McMahon saw the popularity at dark side. And all those show, uh, I forget the network that those come on vice, right? So they're like, let's catch in on this because WWE was jumping the Netflix anyway. So this is a great segue to get the fans that come to Netflix that they weren't already on there. Watch this about, you know, the program, the, the industry that they love. Um, I don't think there's going to be a follow up. I think they just put up these episodes to keep up with what what vice was doing and, uh, they kind of whitewashed us. And we got horn swaddled. We thought we were going to play by Netflix. Yeah. Maybe the casual fans are really getting a kick out of it, but the guys that are like deep in the weeds, we're kind of, um, you know, we're just getting let down them up and right. So I don't know, maybe the next two episodes will prove us wrong. Here's, here's an angle. Vince is behind you all anyway. Yeah. I mean, you, you know, hey, I have all these lawsuits. You okay. I'll sign my name on dotted line. And you know, you guys go and just repackage everything that's already out there anyway. So yeah. And I don't think the documentary is really made for old school wrestling fans. No, I think it's made not all people that subscribe to Netflix. Yeah. They are about to bring on this WWE thing for the first time and they're showing them all this wildness because if they never seen it before and they just happen to watch a documentary, they're going to hold this shit's wild. Yeah. And that's how this stuff isn't for us. This, this is a history lesson for us. And it's talking about Vincent man. It's about WWE through Vincent man because he's the one that ran it. Yep. Yeah. I agree. Yep. Yeah. Right. You just laid the marketing out for what's going on. New fans. Did you go, baby? Yeah. Yeah. The new fans going to do some deep dives on YouTube because there's there's better wrestling history on YouTube and there's some epic interviews that are like two minutes and you don't get nothing like that. Nothing like that. Just Ronnie Piper with a, with a real beer bottle trying to get a matchover is just insane. These guys, they're not the same guys that they were 30, 40 years ago. These are guys that couldn't function in regular society for a nine to five job. These are not the guy that's ripping tickets at the movies or washing your car or pumping gas. These are not those guys larger than life. That's what they, what they miss, especially I saw a thing that Brock Lesnar's coming back. I believe it's Monday. Wow. We'll see. That's, that's very interesting. And real quickly. Go ahead. Brad, you were going to say something. No, I say we'll see. We'll see. All right. We'll see. Motor City machine guns show up and win the tag belt. I thought that was cool too. You want to build that fast? AWS style zero storytelling. No, it was perfect storytelling because the bloodline came out and screwed Jey Uso out of the intercontinental title, right? So then people had to get involved and kind of push those guys over. I mean, yeah, it's dumb. They're losing titles here and there. Like, I still don't know what they're doing with Jey Uso and Braun Breaker. Like, one's a champ. One's not the champ. One's a champ. One's not the champ. They each held a belt for like 28 days or less. And then they're back to Braun Breaker being the intercontinental champ. But if you watch SmackDown all the way to the end with that tag. Yeah, with that tag championship, it made sense for them, for the bloodline to lose those titles because of who got involved to cause them to lose those titles. And then I guess there's a lot of videos popping up now of like what happened after the show. And I don't know why they didn't show this man because it was so freaking awesome. Roman Reigns gave Jey the yeet and then Jey and Jimmy both put their fingers up and they did the whole man. It was awesome. Very emotional for for this household and it was pretty incredible. Yeah, go back and watch it. Yeah, they must have watched the podcast like two or three episodes back where we were bashing the title change for the IC belt. So yeah, you know, people watch the podcast as you saw last week, Kim, Neil, he made a little appearance saying that. Ray, what'd you think of that? Oh, that was fun. Yeah. Yeah. Him and old Samuelson, they get together every Friday night, and they watch it on the mute stops by too. There'll be more of that to come, definitely. That's that's in its infancy. Let me just say. So yeah, let's get into the football picks. The professor is not here. So big shoes to fill. I believe the phantom's gonna step in and give us some picks this week. I give you guys some picks. Only five, really even five. Okay. All right. Keep that happy. For that five. Five. All right, we're doing five. I think we read that's 10 teams. Let's do it. We got the Rams at Seattle. Ray, we'll start with you. Rams. Rams are a. Hockey. Give me. Give me the Rams. Two for the Rams. I'm not going to go to Brad, because he might forget who Andy took. If I skate down a little bit. Break, dude. Not you, too, man. Come on. Dang it. What do you got? I'm gonna go to the Rams too. Give me the trifecta. Rams. Edmond. Yes, sir. I am going to go with the the Steve Largens, please. Oh boy. Brad. Look, the Rams are getting people back. I think Nokua is supposed to come back. The Rams are kind of on this upswing. They've been playing great football. However, Seattle is playing lights out. Geno Smith having a career season that defense. People have been sleeping on the Seattle defense. They dropped one against Detroit. I'll give them that. I think they let San Fran or the Giants or somebody. They let some sorry team put some on them, but that defense is so opportunistic. It's almost back to that doomsday defense type of play. They get a scoop and score or a pick six almost every game. The defense is keeping them in these ballgames. I'm going to Seattle, man. And they're playing at home, 12th and Seattle all the way, dude. Don't see at all. This might be the game that ends up being the difference maker between him and Andy at the end. I'm going to take after that pick. I'm going to take Seattle, put me down. I'm like, Mr. Brown, fuck you. You already had a game with those champions. I am going to go with the Rams. They looked good the other night with both fighters just coming back. Yeah, yeah, they did. Really. They cost me 20 bucks. Everybody has a hangover after they played the Lions. Their stories. And speaking of those Detroit Lions, they are headed to Green Bay. Raymond, who eat up Lions? I told you at the saddest season, the fixes and the packets that go into the Super Bowl. I'm not saying they're going to win, but give me the packets. Jack, you said in Green Bay? In Green Bay. Don't teams don't like that. I'm going with the packers. Breakfast. I break that. I'm a shitty host, not shitty picks. Where's the professor when you need them? I'm going to go with the Lions. They just look really good. Even though Hutchinson went down, that defense is still playing good. And this is the hurt. I believe it's three people on the panel now. Boy, did they run that ball against against the Cowboys for those first 11 plays in the game. How boys will have a team? That's not even bragging about. That's your boy. We're hurt. For this game, dude, I got to pick Detroit, man. They're playing so good right now. Even though they're going to Green Bay, I think Green Bay is one limiting factor. It's going to be Jordan Love just because he's so young. He's still kind of making young football player mistakes. They still have a really young receiving core. I think the Lions all around across the board have better players, better scale players, better positional players. And until the Lions do something to prove me wrong, I mean, I got to pick Detroit, man. They're my pick, I think, to go to the Super Bowl. I don't remember. I go back and watch that episode. The guy agreed with Mr. Brad. I am going with Detroit. On record. On record. All right. This is for the homers in the place. New England traveling to Tennessee. And ironically, the professor isn't here and these are his two favorite teams. I don't think you want to pick between them. Raymond, it's Tennessee. Tennessee. Hey, see, Tennessee oil is coming to me. Let's see. Jackie, I'll take the Tennessee Titans also. Yeah, man. This is a pickle of teams going the wrong way. Man, I hate to. I'm just going to say this. Earl Campbell is not walking through the door. I'm going with the Patriots. I at some point they got to turn it around. I think they're going to lose against the Jets. So this week, so they got to win some at some point. Yeah, Ed said it's a pick him game to Patriots, one in six Titans, one in five. However, I kind of like what Drake may is doing right now. I think they've got some young offensive pieces on this new England team. They just got to put the shit together type of situation. And I think against the Titans being that the Titans are just so atrociously bad right now that I think New England can go to Tennessee and win this game. So I'm picking New England. I said the same thing last week, but yet you'll get their asses handed to them. Jackson was a little bit better football team and then Tennessee. So they have a better coach. Yeah, I think this is a game New England turns things around, dude. I'm confident in that. We'll see. I wonder if they're going to go anti-saucs. I don't know. Tennessee, because I like to watch the patchman suffer. Been addictive. Almost the last time the Dallas win a Super Bowl. Hey, we got five rings, man. That's all the matters. We're going to need dates. What are you talking about? Thanks. Talking about talking about playoffs. We got five ring. Right there, but talking to dolphins fans. I talk about 73. Yeah, we got five rings. Gameful. Let me refresh up here. All right. Let's go to what Darren's favorite team. The Chicago Bears traveling to Arizona. Arizona had a big game this week. What do you got? Is that what Ray? Ray. Andy. Come on, Bears. Jage. Cardinals. God. I'm going with the Bears. Bob is. Okay, Caleb Williams. He's turning around. He's actually completing more than 50 percent of his spouses, so he's putting him much, much better to give the kids some credit. Really, for sure. Credit. Where'd he go? Not because Andy picked them, but because I think they're actually going to win Chicago. All right. Nothing to do with Andy. You sure? Positive. All right. I think I'm also going to go with Chicago. So Shaggy. Shaggy stands alone. Go. It's hot in Phoenix. Let's go. All right. In our last game, we got Houston traveling to the New York Jets. You didn't do Cowboys Falcons? Brad, I don't like picking against my Cowboys buddy. I'm going to try it out just a week. That one's good. That one's going to know who I took. I mean, Ryan just gave you that. You're not the boss of me. The king. I'm the king. You're not the boss of me. Brad might be the king in that. Brad's only the king in his own castle. Yeah. I'm sorry. I'm in the castle. I'm in the castle. I'm going to win myself. So what are we doing? Houston and who? Yes. You're soon. Yes. Not the Jets. Ray, you're up. Jets. Jets. Is he? Jets for me. All right, Brad, that must be Jets for you. Jesus Christ almighty. Jay. I mean, the way the Jets played past the least, I'm going to Houston, I think. I'm going with Houston as well. So. Brad, no pressure for you. Got. Whoa. Whoa. I was going to say. Ah, it's a Thursday night football game. And those always suck for the home team. The home team always loses Thursday night football in Halloween. Houston has been playing not great, but not bad. Not Jets football. The Jets have a good defense, but Aaron Rogers and company kind of sucking it up. Devonta Adams did absolutely nothing to prove that off. It's all I've been there for four days, man. You've been there for plenty of time. Plenty of time. Plenty of time. I'm going to go with Houston, but it's a very weak Houston. I'm not 100% confident in that. We're just going to throw that out there as a caveat. I'm copying Brad. I am going with Houston. Oh, hope you win your $20 back, buddy. Oh, Bill, that wraps it up, gentlemen. All right. Wrap it up. And this is your spot to tickle the sports. You want to mention about the passing of somebody that I remember as a youth with the World Series going on. It's kind of ironic that this person passed. Demand that through with his eyelids. Had him in Staten lineup back in the day. Vermando Valenzuela, and thoughts on the passing of Fernando Valenzuela. You know, I was reading about something that's on him. And I didn't realize that he won the silver slugger twice. And I didn't realize, and he kind of was forgotten that he actually played for almost 17 years in the league. He bounced around after he left the Dodgers, and he was the last pitcher. And I didn't remember this until I did a little bit of research on him. I didn't realize that he was like the last pitcher to throw the screwball either. I did not know that. So I mean, you know, I remember Fernando Mania. I remember probably more towards like 1982, 1983, you know, NBC Game of the Week. Always seemed to be the Dodgers on TV. You know, so we got to see him play. 82. No, that's the year I was born. You remember that? Well, I'm old. Oh, buddy. I'll hold you. Don't want to bring you down, Ed. I'm not. Don't be down. Get up. Come on. I will drive to Florida and hug the fuck out of you right now. Oh, you have to see in that YouTube post. I failed the test, buddies. I saw it's quite a man too, right? Phantom thoughts on the path on a financial balance level. Yeah, no, it's it's sad. I, uh, the timing of it is well ironic with, uh, Dodgers being the world series, a little extra. Hopefully they pull it out for him kind of thing. But, uh, that when I was, I did a little research myself and they were talking about, you know, I can, I can remember it really, really well in and they were saying that, especially being in Southern California, he was driving attendance like no other. Like they, they said that they were drawing like 8,000 in attendance when he wasn't pitching, but when he was pitching, like 16,000, like he was packing the stadium. I mean him. Unbelievable. You know, you know, he's been referenced in and so many things, like, I played Bulldog. They were talking about him like looking up into the bizer before he threw the ball and stuff. Just, uh, just, just a great picture. You know, probably an all-time working, even though I don't know if he quite had the longevity to, to kind of even, I don't want to say he was, only having like a small window, but he, uh, first time when he, when he was on top, he was one of the best for sure. Right. Any thoughts on, uh, Fernando Val as well? Yeah. I, uh, enjoyed watching growing up. He was, you know, a big part of our youth and, um, it's sad again that I know the hero that we had as kids passed away. You know, that's the one thing that sucks about us getting older is all of them going. After all those next. Shady takes all this that, uh, even though your childhood hero died, Scott Stapp, lead singer of Creed, is still alive and kicking. There's arms wide open. There's arms wide open. Yes. Not me. Good play Ray. Good play, Ray. Shady. Oh, I just got that. Oh, a little, a little, a little, a little joker named legal. Uh, like this week in baseball, Mel Allen and Tom in the sort of the big, uh, Fernando, uh, Ben as well, like how hot he was then. Like you just never seen all the highlights in there. And it was amazing. And yeah, like you said, it's kind of like what when we were in our twenties with Pedro came to town is like there'd be nobody in attendance in Pedro's pages and places back. Brad, uh, bring us up the speed on the world series. Uh, not watching it because the Rangers aren't in it, but, uh, Freddie Freeman, with a walk off and extra innings basis loaded two outs, literally the same play that we imagine is a kid in your living room or your backyard. We've all done it. Freddie Freeman, who is also like the classiest freaking star athlete that's ever lived, by the way. Um, I just saw a clip today. He was trick-or-treating somewhere and some little boys in a braves costume that Freddie Freeman was like, whoa, hold up. Is that me? Are you mind not wearing my number? Let's take a photo list that, you know, and he signed it for the kid. Class act human being. And then at the end of the game, you know what he said, Andy? Do you know what he said? He said, he said this is where my dad, my dad threw me batting practice. He was there from day one playing capture with me, throwing batting practice. If I have to thank anybody, I'm thanking my dad because for this moment, I was like, man, how did I love Freddie Freeman? Like I'm in love with that guy. He's an awesome human being. Great guy. Watches. He watches the podcast too, I would imagine. I hope he does. I hope he hears me love crushing on him. Yeah. Phantom thoughts on the World Series so far. So far, so good. Great, great, great ending. I was, I was same thing with Brad. He hits that home run, touches home. He runs like straight out if you guys saw that by, he runs to like the backstop, grabs the backstop. His father's got a front row seat and he like, he just grabs, grabs the thing, he just yells at his father like, yeah, that's like, you know, that power so great. What wasn't so great? If you're a Yankees fan, grab boom, bringing in Nesta Cortez, was it pitched in a month to break? Oh, Tony bets and Freeman and extra innings. So thank you, Brad Boone. You plucked us a couple of years ago. Now you're gonna now touch her. Aaron Boone. Aaron Boone. I knew just Tom Bob. Yeah. Horrible decision. And he hung that pitch right over the plate too, that perfect place to hand it through. It was awesome man. I mean, it was like right there right in the wheelhouse in it. I mean, he was doing yard when he did it. And he did it. Well, we're gonna wrap this sports stuff up. And we don't have the professor to do the lead in. So buy a fucking book. The town, I'm gonna say, and Bradford, you're ready to screen share and talk some tin foil hat. Let's do it. I've been waiting for this one. I've been waiting. All the pressures. All right, I got it. Some muted. Let's watch this. This is the Afghanistan jellyfish. So if you look right here where the cursor is, it is a, I mean, it's blurred because it is like some form of active camouflage. This is a UAV unidentified aerial something. It's flying over some village in Afghanistan. Is it US military? They haven't said? Is it some form of alien technology? Nobody knows. But this footage got leaked and it's been burning down the internet. This got leaked. When was this? When did this come out? This has been out for a while. Yeah, it's been out for a while. And now there's you got to be careful because on TikTok right now there's a lot of AI generated images of these alien jellyfish. And they look weird, but they're trying to recreate this to as a diversion. So they're spreading a lot of misinformation on it. But anyway, you see this thing and obviously it's like this thing is floating. Whatever its purpose is this use of active camouflage and Andy alluded to this, I think last weekend, when we were talking about these rockets from Elon Musk and Jeff Bezos that are launching and coming back and so on and so forth. If they can use this thing to this active form of camouflage, don't you think they can project some form of hologram or make some other craft appear to be a rocket shooting up in the air and landing? If they can use this form of active camouflage, because you know if the military has it, it's been out for at least 20 or 30 years, right? Oh yeah. So if they're using this as this active camouflage device flying over Iraq of Afghanistan, could they not have shot a missile at the twin towers and made it project itself as an airplane? I don't know. I'm just gonna throw that out there just to kind of deepen the conspiracy theory waters, but really weird video. And I mean, who knows if this is alien or American military, but either way, super weird. You know, yes, take a look at it, man. It's just, it's weird. What do you guys think? So, it's the most aerodynamic thing. So when I started the first time, a couple of years ago, Brad, the first thing I thought of was that the Imperial droids from Empire Strikes Bat. It looks exactly like it. I'm not saying that that's what it's projected to be, but the thought process of the engineering of it kind of looks like it. What you were talking about with the holograms and the fake things is part of that project blue beam. They said that if they ever were to fake an alien invasion, it'd be part of that project blue beam. So I don't want to get away from the jellyfish theory, because that I think that's legit. It's just you got to watch out for all the fake stuff that comes out like you said after the fact. There is a lot of misinformation coming out on TikTok. And I think it's just trying to decrypt it. You know, like everything else is there's some truth. And then they throw a bunch of other stuff in there. So you don't know what's what? So unfortunately, that's that's the world that we live in and would spend like that forever. You know, was there a rough, you know, world's fans at one time, maybe, allegedly, things like that. Raymond thoughts on that jellyfish. I would love to believe it's a UFO or alien related, but I just, my personal opinion, I don't think it is. I think it's like military. You know, when again, I mean, if if it's a UFO, again, I mean, could you see doing light years and that thing from the last galaxy? Yeah, next galaxy that I don't think of this. I think it's military. If it's not made up, it's military. My opinion. And what do you think? They just kind of seems to be on the same path. So it kind of looks like maybe that they've kind of gotten a little bit better with the technology with jet propulsion for individual soldiers type stuff. And, you know, you know, I mean, bottom line is, is that there is technology that's out there that can make aircraft the size of, I believe, bits of basketball on radar. So they can certainly do that with something that has a small cross section and that type of thing in the signature of somebody that has like a kind of Tony Stark kind of weapon system. So, I mean, that's, I mean, if you look at like the things, I mean, they had the dogs on, they had those on ESPN game day about two weeks ago from the MIT labs. So, I mean, you know, the technology is there. Charity, you can't away in? Yeah, I'm assuming that's military. I just figure if like UFOs and aliens are like so many like light years ahead of us to be a little more aerodynamic than like you said, the Imperial drones flying through the air and stuff. One away in Phantom on that. Yes, I do. Well, they did really seem really, really cool. Like, you know, kind of make you think about it a little bit, I'm going, I'm going BS on this one. I'm I think that's bread shit on a camera. The government spy bird, that's what it is. We have a little hot tour and a little bit of this and no more really. Boy, that blast on YouTube really got everybody off the rails with the quotes after that. Hey, but Andy, you shared with me that video on TikTok, right? Of the blurred images on Google Earth. I did. I went and looked for those. I mean, it was six, six, eight months ago. I was looking for that alien base, dude, but it was too late. It was already blurred. I couldn't find it. But I've been hearing about that rumor for a long time. So, if we're going to say like, hey, it's US military, there's no way it can be aliens. Okay, whatever. But like, there's already starting to be a bunch of chatter. You know, the battle of LA, right? Back in the World War two and right up to coast. Now January 42, there's a blurred image in the ocean that is allegedly this alien UFO base. And there's a lot of alien and UFO activity off the coast of California. So there's not to say, hey, maybe this was US military, the jellyfish, maybe it was, but where do they get the tech? Where they get the technology? It's reverse engineered from aliens or made a deal with the aliens that are based off the coast of California. And we're like, hey, we're going to take that technology from me and we're going to use it in our military. We're going to go fly this jellyfish to Iraq and Afghanistan. I don't know. Bradford, we could do a deep dive on some of that alien stuff. I mean, there's a fork in the road there, right? Yeah. Where they supposedly met in the 50s and signed that treaty in order to do human engineering and coalition and crop circles that way. And then you can go this way with the Roswell stuff where they really did get a saucer and all the stuff that we have that came off the saucer like fiber optics, you know, Wi-Fi, all the micro waves were all came from cross-engineering off that one spacecraft that they got originally allegedly, right? Allegedly. Allegedly, right? That's right. Allegedly, of course. Okay. Brad, you want to wrap that whole thing up in a neat little bow? Yeah. Tie it up. It's done. Tie it up. Speaking of that, it's time to wrap it up. We'll do some shout outs. I guess we'll start with Ray. Raymond, get any shout outs this week? Yes, yes, I do. This past week, my wife had to send her a kitty to cross over the rainbow bridge. She was 21 years and four months old. She had him as a kitten. She rescued him. He was a throw away and cat, he never snuck outside. He was a perfect cat. It's a good boy. There you go, Ray. That's a good one. Phantom Bay Shout outs this week. Yeah, I'm going to shout out to the professor after I try to step in his shoes for only five picks. I can't imagine doing 15. TB, you're the man we missed you. Hopefully you come back next week. He's missed without the cost of me. Really hit it on the pack last year with the, you know, Ted Lasso gas. So, Shaggy, you got a shout out this week? Yeah, shout out to everybody. Have a safe and happy Halloween and make sure your parents cash in in your parent tax and grab your 50% of the candy from the kids. Yeah, going back to the Halloween stuff. If you look at the movie, that was the first time that you saw the kid with the razor blade in the apple. Yeah, the second one. Little, little, little, you know, segment of that with all that, uh, urban legend there. Yeah, I want to share. I'll do the shout out. Uh, I want to shout out to my youngest. They finally recognized there, put the captain C on her. She came up big today. She was in the county box twice. They told, you told her that one more and you're getting suspended to blow it off. Went about a business and played really good. Uh, we're going to main tomorrow. So that's going to be a hike. So, uh, and shout out this week. Uh, a couple of shout outs to some of my triathlon friends that are over there and Kona right now, uh, shout out to BJ who had a bike crash about three weeks ago and he's out there and Chuck and Bill, um, all three of them doing really, really well. And, uh, that is definitely a piece of an island to be doing an Ironman on. So, uh, good luck boys. Have fun. All right. Hello. Taking it to a Bradford to close us out this week with the shout out. Uh, not really a shout out more like a gripe and, uh, what really grinds my gears. Let's go. Let's go. I'm sitting here trying to take the boy to a WrestleMania or Royal Rumble. Something fun. Something just like off the chain that he's going to remember for the rest of his life and pun intended. I got to sell. Wait, what arm is it, Ray? My right arm to get a fucking ticket to these things, man. Like the WrestleMania tickets are stupid, expansive. And then you got airfare and travel and hotels and rental cars and all that, everything. I'm like, Jesus Christ almighty. Like this sport, this sports entertainment industry used to be for like the working class guy, but the only people that can go to the big events, you got to, you got to be making some serious money to go to WrestleMania. And I haven't even looked at Royal Rumble tickets, man, but I don't know. Jesus Christ, man. Talk about a letdown. So I don't know. Maybe I'm leaning towards Ron Atlanta because that's definitely doable. It's right up the road. But holy fuck, man, triple H lower the damn prices, bro. It shouldn't be a rich man's game. It's not the Super Bowl. It's WrestleMania. We made you motherfucker. God damn. What are the tickets for? What are the ticket prices? Man, so I'm looking at two day passes because I don't like, I don't even know if one day passes around sell yet. Two day passes start. If you're fast enough, eight, nine hundred bucks, which is kind of doable, but I got to buy two. So I'm not a fan of that, right? I got to buy my name Lucas plus airfare and travel and everything. So and so on. The highest I saw was like 15,000 fucking dollars, 8,000, 12,000, 50,000 dollars for two day passes. Not worth it. No, bro. From Vegas, Allegiant Stadium. So it's a football stadium, man. So you're going to be so far back, you're going to be watching it on a screen. TV. Ridiculous, man. Like this is a this was a sport. This was an industry for the people by the people. And it's it's gotten too big. Stupid. But happens when you have no competition. Yep. Stupid man. And people keep buying them, man. It's like Taylor Swift tickets. People buy them a resound for two, three thousand dollars and dumbasses still buying them. Um, suppression of the show. Nope. But Jess jumped on. She found some tick tock. She got tickets for $65. Jess is going. She's going to get me a t-shirt. Oh my god. A little weird on the podcast. Can't wait. I'm not going. Jess is going to go up. She's going to get me a t-shirt. Oh, Brad. I can't believe we ended on that. Everybody is terrible. You went from grinding gears to Taylor Swift. Hand or won't? We're we're going to have a good time, fellas. Brad, I got to end the episode with Stop Being a Bitch.