(upbeat music) - What's up, before you get to your episode, I have announcement to make. My name is Brad, I host Work Advice for Me. And now I am getting a co-host and I want you to meet her. - I'm Claire, you might've heard me on the floor recap show on reality check with Brad and Heidi. And I am so excited that Hopecast wanted some new talent to co-host with Brad and they brought me on. So make sure that you download Work Advice for Me and make sure you tune in to our episode, November 5th. We can't wait to have you join us. - Yes, November 5th, we will be alive and you can watch us on YouTube. So stay tuned and follow us if you haven't followed us. We'll see you on the Hopecast Network. (upbeat music) (upbeat music) - This is the Hopecast Network, content that you actually want to listen to. (upbeat music) (upbeat music) - Well, welcome back to another edition of Movie Torture. I am one of the hosts, Roger. It's been a while. How you doing, Brad? - I'm doing good. Jacob, do we have a new cast member? Is this a new cast member opening up for us today? - Or what, I mean, he's got a little less hair than last time. - I recognize him a little bit. - It's been so long, I'm now referred to as North Carolina Jacob. (laughing) - That's hilarious. You're no longer Minnesota, Roger, Jacob. It's Roger, North Carolina, Jacob, I like it. - Jacob, I've been on more than I have lately, so I gotta give him his due for that, sir. (laughing) That's pretty good, that's pretty good. - Roger has it in his contract. He only makes one appearance every eight months now. That's his rule. He wanted lots of money and Hopecast doesn't have that kind of cash. - Yeah. - It's a pony up, so. - I've got, I'm farmed my agent, like Hassan Redick, and so I'm looking for a two-year deal. - Roger won't step Macy's money. And Jacob said, "I'll come in for Big Lots cash." - So that, which is going out of business, by the way. Do you see all the Big Lots are like shutting down now? - Yes. - And Walgreens. Walgreens, they're gonna break back up and shut the bunch down as well. - No, Jacob, we can't lose our Walgreens. This is the only drug store we got around here, right? - I mean, you have the target, the cash wise. - Yeah. - You have the thrift, which I have never been in there 'cause it sounds a little shady, but the thrift RX. - Anything that's called thrift RX makes me wanna not go in there. - They're donated. - It sounds like one of those shady teal on a pharmaceutical area as it does. You go in there and wink and they give you the blue pill, you're like, "Okay, I guess they think I need it." - It's like the good will of prescriptions. - There we go, I'll doubt these, I'll donate these. - The good will of prescriptions. - Oh my gosh, Roger, we are so glad and that voice you hear is Jacob, by the way, he's on. We're so glad to have you back. It's exciting to be able to talk about a movie that has Mitch from Baywatch in it. So I'm kind of excited about that. - I think the rock would not feel good with that being the movie that you tag him with. - Well, I mean, if you're a loyal movie torture listener, which we have movie torture dad who MTD is not in the house yet for listeners that want to see or hear from MTD, he has one job and that's to provide trivia, funny comments and box office. And he struck out all three of those 'cause he's not in the chat right now. He said he's out shopping, which I guess takes precedence over getting together with us and recording. He's at the beach right now, by the way. - Oh, okay. - Yeah, he's at the beach, but yeah, we'll see when he joins us. I'm predicting he joins us 20 minutes. Wait a minute, wait a minute, is there a chat? Did I miss it? Is he here? - I saw something, I can't see who he'll see you. - Is that my chat? Oh, that's just me? - That's your chat. - Okay, so he's not in, he's not in. - Yeah, so anyway, if you're a loyal movie towards your listener, Raj, we did Baywatch with Mitch. - Yes. - So I have, that's mine. That's the only other appearance the Rock's ever made on the show, Baywatch. - And this, he should be called The Pebble 'cause for the Rock's sake, he is pretty small. (laughs) - What movie are we doing, Raj? For all the listeners that are dying to know. We're doing the 2004 edition of Walk in Tall. - Oh my gosh. - Yeah, it was an action film based on the character from the previous Walk in Tall. The character then was Sheriff Buford Pusser and McNary County in Tennessee. It was an actual true story. - Wait, I watched Walk in Tall, the payback with Kevin Sorbo. - You did? - No, I didn't. - I can't really say. - I mean, we can mix it both in. - We can make it work. - Oh, MCD's in the house. He says hi guys, he's done shopping now. He's good. (laughs) For all the listeners, MCD is here. So, Walk in Tall, 2004, you're gonna be surprised to hear this. I did not go to the movies and see this. It's, Anna would probably have been shocked. I did not go. He says, freezing up really bad. I don't understand. Log back out and come back in MCD. He's wanting to know why. It doesn't feel like we're freezing up at all. I wasn't a big rock guy back then. And I'm not a big rock guy now, but yeah. - Yeah, so I didn't go to the movies and see this. - I'm old enough to remember the first one. So, and I actually remember my parents watching it when I was little and just loving the character as I grew older and would see it on sometimes. One of those movies that would be on a Saturday or Sunday afternoon, when nothing else was on TV. But yeah, I just love the character. - So, I'm kind of fascinated by this Kevin Sorbo. He did "Walking Tall the Payback" in 2007. - And then he did another. - And then in 2007, he also did "Walking Tall." He did two "Walking Tall"s in one year. - Yeah, yeah. - "Walking Tall the Payback." - Yep, direct the video on both. - Are they any good? - They existed 'til I popped on here and saw it on Wikipedia. They never knew. - According to box office, this one struggled. - Well, well, MTD, is MTD backers he logging back in? I don't know. When he gets back, say hello MTD, we got to ask you a question. Yeah, didn't go to the movies and see this. It just didn't appeal to me. What was your favorite rock movie of the early 2000s? - Oh. - You try to see, game plan was okay. Wasn't that 2000s? - Is that what's different? - No, is it? Now he's a football player and he hasn't met any of the kids. - Wait a second, Rod. This is the third. This is the third rock movie we did. - We can play an elastent. - We forgot we did that one. - Oh my gosh, that's how forgettable that movie was, Jacob. - Yeah, 'cause we even talked about doing the dentist one too. I mean, the very one. - Did Rock have any good movies, even like up until he got jacked and did like, it's like once he got ripped, then he started doing okay movies. - Okay, he did the mummy returns, and then he led Scorpion King. - Which? - Then he was in the rundown. That was pretty good. I think that was with Stiffler. - That was with Stiffler, yes. - Then he did Walking Tall. Then he did Be Cool, the sequel to Get Shorty. He did Doom, which was supposed to take him, but that didn't take him anywhere. He did Grid Arden Gang, which was surprised Roger hasn't made us watch that one. That's a two hour and five minute movie though. - Which is it, it's a good one. That's a good one, probably show. - They did the game plan, he did Get Smart, race to which mountain tooth fairy, the other guys, that's when Rock took a turn. That's when he kind of took a turn and did a little, he did Faster, he done Fast Five, Journey, Snitch. Yeah, Joe, he did some, I like him on Rock later on than earlier. 'Cause I'm thrown off by his hair. He's got hair, again, it's weird to see him. He needs to just shave it. Jacob, if you showed up with a bunch of hair one day, I'd be thrown off, just a tad. - I wish I could grow a lot of hair to prove that point, but unfortunately that's not gonna happen. - If Roger showed up with a Jerry curl, I would be like, this is weird. NTD says it's not working, he may not be joining us tonight. So that's sad. - The theory with Rock was just keep it as long as you can, you have it, you know, kind of thing. So I think when he started to realize it was going, he kind of let it go. - Okay, here's a trivia question that I don't know the answer to. When did Rock lose his hair? What movie, what was the first movie, the Rock's first movie where he was bald? - I'm gonna go with Jumanji. 'Cause he had a camera with Jumanji. - That was a Fast Five. What came first, Fast Five or Jumanji? Fast Five didn't, had to. - Uh, oh, he's got a full head of hair this year? What? I'm looking at it. It says here, "Dwayne the Rock Johnson took drastic measures to transform his latest role." He went from bald to un-bald in the first look of the smashing machine, a biopic about MMA fighter, Mark Carr, Curr, the lead actor looks unrecognized with all those full follicles that trace his hairline in an impartial sideburn. Wow. - Well, when he's been on WWE this year, his appearance is on there, he's had a totally shaved head. - So. - But it doesn't like, it doesn't, it has to be fake hair, right? Own him. He's a bald dude. - Yeah, he has to be. - Anyway, MTV was gonna do trivia. We'll have to do some, like... - I have. - What's the, okay, what's the budget, Jacob? - So the estimated budget for this movie was $46 million. - Okay. - And that seems, okay. That seemed like a lot, by the way. - It does. - And the gross for US and Canada, we're putting both USA and Canada, the gross, was $46,437,717. - So they lost some money on this 'cause they had to spend advertising dollars. - Yeah. - Jacob, Roger, 46 million seemed a lot. I feel like you and I, Jacob, could fly Roger up here and all four of us could film walking, calling Hutchinson, and have drive around a truck, get out and do a little fake shootouts and beat up some stuff. I don't see how 46 million were in a world did they spend that? - There had to be just on actors 'cause there was nothing that's significant for like CGI or, I mean, they blew up a truck, but that doesn't cost a whole lot of money. - That was bad CGI, by the way. - It was. - They didn't blow up the casino now. - Okay. (chuckles) - The rock's salary on walking tall. Let's see if it tells me. He brought in 15 million for walking tall. Oh my gosh, 15 million in 2004? - That's a payday. - Oh my gosh, what is that today? 15, 15 million, that's where we need MTD. Million in 2004 today. We'll see what it says. It would be a cool 20... No, it can't be. I think I'm, I don't know. It would be a lot. - It would be a lot of money. - It would be a lot. I don't understand. 15 million would be 24 million today. So he would have made 20, he was getting paid 24 million solely off of the rundown and scorpion king. 'Cause that's all he had before this really. - Right, and then he comes in with this. - He gets 15 million for this to swing a ball bat and basically be reacher before a reacher. - Yeah. - You want me to, you mean do a one minute synopsis movie, Mitch from Baywatch moves to gets out of the pokey and heads back to a Washington town. Runs into, yeah. - Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. - He went to the-- - He came out of jail. He came out of the military. - He came out of military. - Military. - I thought he was out of prison. Okay, let me back that up. (laughing) I thought he'd gone out of prison. Okay, I'll take that back. - Must have been Sorbo. - Yeah, that was Sorbo, he got a prison in Sorbo. Mitch from Baywatch gets out of the military. He comes back to small Washington town, runs into always bad guy Neil McDonough, which you know he's a bad guy right from the start. He runs a casino and Mitch is like, that's where all the people in our town work. He kind of is like a little Rambo in him and then he befriends Jackass, Johnny Knoxville and they become sheriff's and deputy and he lays waste to everybody, kills Neil and gets the girl at the end and they drive off into the sunset. Not him and the girl, him and Johnny Knoxville drive all together, I wonder what they're up to. There's so many things we gotta talk about in this but that's the one minutes and options of walking tall which if you love me, listeners, I'm short so my movie be walking short. - Okay, so just to jump right in here with that synopsis because it talks about he came back from the military, the original movie, the guy comes back from being on the pro wrestling circuit and you have rock on this movie. Why do you not keep that as the plot? Why do you change it? Why do you go with the military? That's a big miss for me. I mean, you got the most popular wrestler in America at that point, right? Roger, a wrestling connoisseur. Was he in 2003? Probably in the top three most famous wrestlers. - Oh, he was at him in Stone Cold War, the two. - Okay, so why would they not have made him like, oh, movie torture dad's on YouTube now? Oh my gosh, it's probably staticky. (laughing) I'm telling him it's probably static. So, why would you not have put him in a leotard and had him go out there and wrestle Johnny Knoxville? Like, you could have had them as buddies before he went off show the scene where they're like wrestling with each other. - Yeah, I don't know. I just think the military thing fit for the character they made him in to be the tough guy. I think the whole wrestler thing would have been more comedic than anything. And I think this was more, at least with anything non Knoxville was serious in this movie and he brought the only comedy to the picture. - So, MTD's watching on YouTube right now. He says it's much better and he's gonna text me his comments right now. So, he's a part of the show. He's back, he's back. - He's back on YouTube. - Get Roger, what if he played like, what if he was like Sergeant Slaughter? Like, what if he was a military guy in the wrestling industry? What if, Roger, what if he was a military and then got into wrestling and then moved back 'cause he lost his wrestling gig but he knew how to kill? Then you get the best of both worlds. - Yeah. - The best of both worlds. - You get the best of both worlds. - I mean, that's what we needed. Like, this guy comes back, he's a killing machine. And this is obviously rock pre-modern day steroids. - My yes. - He was using those 1990s versions of steroids. - I can't, Roger, I can't watch in this. - Movie, imagining movie torture cast in this movie. Like, as characters. Which, I'm gonna start doing to make every movie funnier to me. Because, (laughing) Are y'all listening or y'all froze up on me? Are y'all there, right? - No, we're listening. - Yeah. - Yeah, okay, so I'm watching this movie and I'm thinking about like, what characters we would be in this movie. Like, who would be the rock? Who? M-T-D likes that we're talking about wrestling. Who would be the rock? I feel like Gary's definitely Johnny Knoxville. - Yes. - No, no. - Yes, you're Johnny Knoxville. You're Johnny Knoxville. - Then who's the rock? Is it you or Jacob? - Yeah, you would bring the comedic value to the movie. - Who's the, none of us are the, none of us, none of them buy this. We gotta cast outside this to be the rock. - Well, I guess Jonathan's the youngest of us. - So he'd be the rock. - Yeah, yeah. (laughing) - Who's the sheriff that he fires? That's gotta be you, Rod. - I don't think so. Who would I be? Nobody wants everyone. - I definitely wouldn't be the girlfriend stripper. (laughing) - It's gotta be one of the girls on the cast. (laughing) You see, I don't actually, which one? - I think, I think Gary would be-- - The stripper? - The head of security for the casino who kept getting beat up. - The one that was in the jail, the jail going, "Help me out of here!" - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - Yeah. (laughing) - Yeah. - I like how we're asking where Gary would be at the beginning of this. It's a first. We've always done it at the end. We're actually doing the beginning. We're actually, but M.T.D. No, he should be the cop in this movie because we've established that M.T.D. is a bike cop. So, he could be a cop in this movie. - Thank you. - Oh, M.T.D. is the dad. He used to be the dad who comes down with the gun at the end. They're like gonna love him, my boy. And he's like saving Jonathan. He's saving Peter J. - Yeah. - Who's the bad guy though? It's gotta be either Jacob or you or Trent. Trent can be the bad. Oh, Trent. Blumhouse is the bad guy. - Run in the casino. (laughing) - Run in the casino. (laughing) - Trent is running at the casino. - I'm a little confused in this movie because we got the wrestler at Rock. Why is he so bent on this casino closing? You think this would bring lots of money to the town. - Right. - Because he missed the sawmill. He came back for the sawmill and it was closed. - Well, the sawmill was, yeah, the sawmill was producing a lot of money to the town. And the Neil McDonough character, J, basically closed it down and then started his casino, which brought in drugs and prostitution as well. - The pebble, he could not handle that sawmill closing. The pebble was upset, had sentimental value. The casino had to go. (laughing) - This movie is, and that casino looked so lame. I mean, it looked. - Smallest casino I've ever seen ever. And it was like wood paneling wall, like it was so bad. - It would be the one we have here, Kings Mountain, Brad. - Oh, it's a casino that only takes, it only takes pesos. (laughing) - Like J, it looked like. - You could feel like 50 people in it. Like, that's small. - It looked like it could probably be my town home and your town home put together in that casino. - Yes. - But with no windows and the smell of like liquor and cigarettes all through it. And the smell of regret all in there, like he's just, like, and I was confused, like Mitch goes in there, was he gonna patronize this place? I mean, he was in there visiting a lady of the night, who's gonna take her clothes off, right? - He was ready to party. He was ready to party. - He was getting down. He's like, okay, I've been in us. What is that scorpion king? Now I'm gonna be in a stripper. - It was one of those things where he was reluctant to go in there, but his boys dragged him in there. And that was kind of, he started noticing, like one of the guys got, you know, got taken with bum, you know, bum dice. And then, you know, I forgot what was the other one, but he pretty much called the dealer on it. And then, of course, the dealer brought security. That's what started the whole fight. - He tried to profit, he tried to profit off that. He was like, hey, you just take care of my bet. Well, let it all go. - Yeah. - I haven't seen anybody drag the rock into anything. Like, I would be like, I'm the rock, man. Look at these guns I got on my arms. I'm not breaking, man. And I did want to say I love how he's credited as the rock in this movie. - The rock. - Just the rock. - The rock. - It's not rock, it's not, it's not Dwayne. And he goes by Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson now, which is way cooler than just "The Rock". - "The Rock", yeah. - Which looks really stupid. The opening credits are so cheap looking in this movie. Like, I'm like, yeah, I wonder where the 46 million go, man. Like, was it spin on the casino? 'Cause it looks small. It looked this, oh my gosh, so many things. - It's so heavy, but there is, yeah. - Yeah. - There's so many things, man. Like, I don't, I'm confused that when a Roger knows this movie so well, first off. - I've seen it five, six times, at least. - That's... - To me, this is like the, oh gosh, I'm going blank now. This is like one of my road house movies that, you know, it's horrible, but, you know, you just, you've seen it so many times, you kind of know the storyline. If you're flipping through the channels, you just happen, you gotta stop by 'cause you know what's getting ready to happen. You know, he's rocks getting ready to destroy the casino or, you know, so. - Do you feel like, before Jay got me to cut you off, do you feel like we could be creating a walking tall in Gary? And we bully him so much and pick on him. He's one day gonna show up with a ball back and start. - You gotta be a small company through your little sliding glass door. - Yeah, he tells me he's like, next time you need to get your rear light, your rear light fix. And I'm like, "What are you talking about, producer Gary?" And he goes, I'm like, "Oh man, BG means business now. "Sorry about this." - I guess this Jay's a little friendship. - MTD says, "Roger, you're giving your score way too early "for the movie." - He's calling you out, he doesn't like that. - It's being trashed a little too early, so I've kinda had him to spin some of it. - But now I'm imagining Gary as the rock in this movie. Like, I won't Gary to be the guy that comes back and just starts laying waste to all these people. - So I was watching this movie with my wife Laura and we, she had commented at the court scene. So this could fit into producing Gary's wheelhouse here because whenever you've ever seen a workout in real life for anybody when they're like, "I'm going to defend myself." And you come out of it victorious. And not only do they-- - If you ever-- - And then when they get him out, they're like, he's just magically the sheriff now. It's just, he just, he's it. - Well, well, spoiler alert. - It's not fiction. - Spoiler alert, Slice Stallone does it in Tulsa King this year. So, you know, he's the only other guy who defends himself to win some court. - But you're right, Jacob. You went, when I was watching this movie, I thought, "Am I, are we going to watch a courtroom drama?" Like, I was thinking, oh my gosh, this is going to be a court, Roger likes a courtroom drama with the rock. And he's like, "I'm going to defend myself." You're smooth with the rock is cooking because I'm cooking all that watery. (laughing) And then next thing you know, I wish that worked like that. Like, I could just go into the court. They've arrested me on like, I've been arrested on fraud charges. Like, I've been defrauding the government. I haven't been listeners. And I'm like, I'm going to defend myself. And Kristen's like, "You're pretty crazy, Brad. I wouldn't do that, Brad." And I go in there, I defend myself. And then they say, "You win, and now you're the judge." And I get to be the judge. I'm like, "Okay, I'm going to judge me." It's so dumb, man. It's so dumb. - You basically, I defend myself. I'm not guilty, and I'm the sheriff. - And then he does the eyebrow raise to the jury. - He does. - You know, and that's what the Rock has to say about that. - And he starts stripping in the courtroom. - That costs it. - That costs it two million for him to do the eye raise, by the way. (laughing) - He's talking to somebody in the witness box and he asks him a question. So what did you see on this? And they go to talk and he says, "It doesn't matter what you have to say about this." - MTV says he thinks I offended you, Roger. (laughing) - Yeah, I can't stand it when Brad tries to bring shade to my wrestling. - Well, you're supposed to be like, "I'm going to choose to defend myself right now against Brad." I'm not going to use that. Do you think the Rock was using one of those court appointed attorneys? Do you think he had any money? - No, he didn't have much. - Yeah, it didn't seem like a very good lawyer. - He had a good truck. I liked his truck. So I like when he makes Sheriff, 'cause he's finally a big boy now. They give him his little badge and he walks out and the Sheriff at the beginning, he was like, "I like you, good, let me drive you home." I'm not asking him and he says, "You should do this, you're fire." That was a power move right there. - It was a power move. - I would like to do that. I want to take over a small town. I want to become Sheriff of Hutchinson. - You're all fire. - And then fire everyone. I feel like you're fire. - I'd be your deputy. Can I be high? - I got you. - I mean, you would just be like Andy Grahamson Park. - Okay, here's the thing too. Why did, after he did it, the rocket immediately became a corrupt cop, like instantly. He was following no rules. - He wasn't. He was kind of like the equalizer. (laughing) - Well, my thing is, my thing is when he takes the guy and puts him in the jail, then everybody comes start shooting at the jail and I'm like, you know, who goes and starts shooting at the local police station, you know, without other, you know, authorities coming in to help, you know, and it's just him out there by himself, you know, getting shot at. - The same thing, they did the same thing when Rock comes in and starts tearing up the casino, guns are going off all this. And the Hamilton dude, here's none of this. He's got the most soundproof office I've ever heard in my life until he passed the window. He's like, what's going on about the casino? (laughing) - I'm like, what do you mean? - Not everyone getting shots. - Right. (laughing) - You see, no, it would have been funny on that as if he'd have turned his hearing aid off and then they did that and then he turns it back on and he's like, oh my gosh, that would have been hilarious scene. I would have laughed at that. Like, he just happened to take it off and fall asleep and then he wakes up and everybody's dead. There's so much like bull ammunition shot in this movie. - I mean, this is one of those movies where you don't want Alec Baldwin running the ammunition because somebody's gonna die if he's running the ammunition. It's, if you don't. - And then what it would mean, this movie so much better is when you had Rock bust that window, he should have been like, the house doesn't win this time. And then been out, 'cause the house always wins, except for when the movie comes in. (laughing) - Yeah. - He does become just like Neil Montgomery though. - Yes. - The bad guy, he's just like him. The only pure guy in this movie is probably Knoxville. - Yeah. - I mean, he just doesn't care. - Well, Knoxville's the one that shows him how to do all the bad stuff. - Oh, yeah, true. - Let me show you how the drug business works. - He is, he did say, "Take me to drug school." And I'm like, I'm thinking, is there a drug school somewhere like cocaine university? Or is there-- (laughing) - Okay. - Associate's degree. - It's called Deir. - Cocaine Deir checks in, he's like, they're like, "Uh, Mr. Bear, Cocaine Bear." - No, I said Deir. - I know, but in cocaine bear shows, they're like, "I'm here to learn more about cocaine, bro." And they're like, "We got this bear." And then, and then Opioid, Opioid Otter shows up. He's like, "I wouldn't learn about Opioids." And they're like in drug school. And they're learning how to deal drugs and do drugs. - And then Gator Math shows up. - Oh, Gator Math would be in bed. Shark cocaine shark sitting in there. We got all the animals. He got a bunch of feline cats on the coke. We got like, heroin hairy, he's showing up like, "I'm here for heroin." He's like snuffy, snuffle-offagus. Oh, and it's said we call him Sniffy 'cause he's sniffing the coke. - Yeah. - The problem with drug school is it, they're always late and they fall asleep during class 'cause they're high and then they just come in there and they're drugged up. So it's really hard to learn at drug school. - They forget about what they were talking about. - Yeah. So I guess Rock went to drug school and he learned about steroids 'cause he obviously partook in that in the future of his, that bro is jacks. - Right. - It's like two different people. - Well, I think it's two different people. - I think current Rock is Jack, but he also, he eats a lot more. I mean, like he's bulkier than he was before. He was trying to stay slim 'cause he had, he knew he had to go back to wrestle. - Jacob, is Roger the wrestling public defender today? - I think so. I think so. I think we're on trial. - I'm not saying a lot more-- - A lot more going than the rock syringe maybe. - He might be eating the Jersey Mike's foot long, but he's also-- - He was doing steroids then, I mean, too, I mean, so-- - Do you think Rock has a guy that puts the needle in his rear for the steroids? Or do you think Rock does it himself? - It probably gets like 60 grand a year to do it. - Oh my gosh. Do you think if all of us are on Roy's, we could get MTD to inject us with the Roy's in our butt? - I'm not the Roy's, I just put it on my shoulders every day. - No, not those Roy's. We're talking about the Roy's and MTD. Would you, for the right price, inject Roger and Jacob with a needle to get their Roy usage up in their dairy air? - I know his answer before he even said that he's-- - Yeah, it takes no. - He says Roger's hard to hear. So Roger, talk a little louder. And do you think he's gonna say no? - I think he is, I know. - I think he's in. - I think if you gave him 100 grand, he's definitely sticking that needle in your butt. - Here's the true thing, I read something about The Rock. It's, when he goes and does movie now, movies now, he literally has a semi-truck with his full gym in it that they set up at every movie set so he can work out, it's insane. So he probably-- - He said for the right price, by the way. He said for the right price, he would do it. - Hey. - Kind of like Adam Sandler putting together a basketball court with right every movie he does when they film movies. - Imagine if you could travel, what would you choose to travel around with? If you had the money, what would you choose to travel around with to your next job? - My whole board game collection and a nice playing game table and it gets set up everywhere I go, that'd be amazing. (laughing) - I would wanna travel around with like a brick oven pizza, pizza oven. - Oh. - And have like meals cooked on that. - Is this the chef coming with? - Yeah, chef's with, her name's Kristen. I don't know, I don't know. Maybe I'd, what if I traveled, what if you traveled around with a theater of movies and you only watched rock movies, but you were rock? - That's all he does is watches his own movies. - Yeah. - That's all he does. - Let me just move it in. - Honey, honey, what about movies? - Movies in his wrestling matches. - Yeah, he comes up to his buddy, like be cool, be cool, man. They're like, we aren't being cool, no, no. We're gonna go watch be cool 'cause I'm in it. - No one wants to be on movies with the rock anymore 'cause he forces them all to sit with him and watch these movies, watch his old rock movies. - Oh my gosh, did you imagine having to sit and watch nothing but rock movies all the time? How many rock movies do you think you could plow through without getting bored? - One? - One? - Yeah, for me it'd be this one and what was the one he did with the Dude from American Pie? - Oh, the rundown. The rundown was pretty funny. It was pretty clever and funny. - Pain and gain was a good movie. - It was. - Jacob, you know why I like that movie. You know who's gonna start in that movie. - Yeah, Walberg. - This is, I'm gonna eat my Walberg's over here. I'm gonna do my prayer, I'm gonna do a little prayer. Can we get Jacked up like the rock? - All right, so let's talk about some of the cast in here. Did you recognize a TV star from how I met your mother? - Yes. - Yes. - Yeah. - I looked at him, I'm like, "That's Robin Chubotsky right there, man." - It was. - She didn't speak. - Laughing at Neil in the car when Rock busted this tail light. - Are we to believe that she's dating him? - No. - No. - No. - He's paying her, right? - Yeah, here's a good question. 'Cause we have Johnny Knoxville in the movie, right? And at this point, Johnny Knoxville is pretty big. Like, he has, you know, the TV series, all that. Is he bigger than the Rock in this movie or is the Rock bigger? - Who got paid more than this movie? - Yeah, I would think the Rock. - Well, Johnny Knoxville's not getting more than 15 million bucks for this movie. - Oh, he probably said, if he got a million, he'd be like, "Yeah, I'll do it." - You know, he leaves a couple million. - No. You think so? - He was pretty big at this point. - I'm looking at a walk-and-talk salary. - Uh, oh my gosh. This can't be. I think he made $5 million for this movie. - That makes sense of you, 'cause he was really big at this point. - Oh, god, $5 million? So they spent 20 of that 46 just on a rock in Johnny Knoxville. - Just on two actors, yeah. - Wow, what do you think Neil McDonough made in this movie? - I would say, he was probably less than them. I'd say he'd probably made two. - I'm looking, walk-and-talk salary. - How much did Robin get paid for her silent role in the car? - It doesn't say, it doesn't say, they said they don't know what he made, it's not public knowledge. - That means it was less than them. - Yeah, he didn't want that to get out. I get that, I mean, but he's always a bad guy. Every movie he's pretty much a bad guy. Like, he needs to play a good guy. I want to see him be a good guy. - Yeah, he's kind of typecast into that, isn't he? Where he's just the bad guy. - Wasn't he the bad guy in Minority Report? - I believe so. - I think he was, because he was. Yeah, he's just always a bad guy, I don't know, but he's a family man, which is really cool. You don't see it much in Hollywood. He's a family man, loves Jesus, and he has a strict rule, where he will not kiss a woman in a movie. - Yeah, he got black ball for a little while to the point where the movies he did for Angel Studios, kind of gave him another chance. And then Sylvester Stallone saw him in that movie and he has him on, what's my call it this year? - Tulsa King. - Tulsa King. - Yeah. - He's a bad guy. - It's a surprise. - Tulsa King. - He's just a big Tulsa King guy. - He's done a couple Christian movies that I know of too. - Yeah, yeah, that's the Angel Studios we're all talking about, yeah. - He's a good actor, I like it. He brings it to every movie. He brought it in this movie, more so than the rock, honestly. - Here's the thing, when the rock catches this guy, right? His good buddy, a friend that he knew, knows that runs his casino. How did we get from? He catches the guy cheating. Instead of just telling his buddy, 'cause it just goes to destroying everybody. There was no thought process. Hey, you know what? I'm just gonna go let my friend know. I'm just gonna beat up all your security guards. - Well, I think if this would have been made today, they would have played on the PTSD. I think back then, it really wasn't a thing yet. But maybe that would have been, 'cause he kind of refers it, you know, like from being, he didn't really talk about his time in the military and kind of hinted at, you know, that, you know, that's why, you know, his anger and some of that came from that. You know? So, but I think, yeah, if it had been today's world, they would immediately, they would say, "Oh, rocks haven't PTSD from serving in the military." - Oh my gosh. I would like for this movie to be made today. And the rock comes back to Washington. I think it's in Washington state, right? - Yeah. - And they're like, "Man, he did good in the military." And he's like, "My pronouns are they, them." So, and then you got Neil McDonough confused, 'cause he's like, you know, he's a man's man. He's like, he can say, "Hey, bro, they, them." And the rocks, like, instead of beating people up physically, he beats them up for social justice constantly. Like, his ball bat is his iPhone. And he tweets. - And he's like, he starts a TikTok campaign against the casino. - Oh, that's what he would do now. We'd be so inspired in walking talk. It would be the iPhone. He would pull it out. And he would be like, "Can you believe they didn't call me by my correct pronouns?" We'll see them just get shot down, no one goes anymore. - They start riding outside. Like, all the, like, all these looters show up from around the country to protest that they're not using pronouns correctly. Roger would be like, "I was looking forward to that new walking talk, but it's really just a guy with a cellphone." And it's shot through, like, cellphone the whole time. - The whole entire movie, yeah. - It's like a hidden footage movie. - I didn't sign up for this movie. - And Joaquin Oxfield's character is asexual. You don't know if it's a boy or girl. It's like... It's like, you don't know. It's very androgynous, franny hat. You don't really know. You're like, "Is that Pat from Saturday Night Live? I don't know." But he calls them, like, X or something. So you're on the fence, like, they're pronouns. And they wear the pronouns on their, and they're all they, them, and smooth. So you can't figure it out. - It'd be a much different movie today. - This would be hilarious, by the way. And it was like, in "Daily Wire" released it. So it was more like a making fun of. - Yes. - Oh, I would watch this. I think Ben Shapiro needs to get on this and get it going. - Yeah, they can make some pretty funny stuff. - MTD says, "Roger, are you offended again?" - No. - Don't you, don't you make fun of my baby rock? - This would be hilarious. What would they call it? Walking Tall or, what would be like, a new title for this movie, like... - "Sitting Blog." - Walking Twitter, walking TikTok. - Social Justice. - I know that the dad, John Beasley, he is actually the grandfather from Malik Beasley who plays in the NBA right now. - Oh wow, that's the guy. I just saw that guy in "Civil War." - Yeah. - He was in "Civil War," which-- - He passed away recently too. - He's dead? - Yeah, 'til 2023. - I think he's also the judge in a few good men. I think that's who he was. - Yeah, I know. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. - But, you know, Jacob, I gotta say, man, I watched "Civil War," and it bored me to tears. It was terrible. - Yes, you said it was-- - You said it was good. - I did not say it was good. - You said it was good, but then you said-- - Okay. - You said definitely not movie torture. You said "All Time Great" movie. - Which movie was that? - I didn't say it was "All Time Great." - What movie? - You said, "Curse Civil War." - I didn't hear the never, and I was like, yeah, agreed. - She doesn't even look like Kirsten Duns in that movie. - Oh my gosh, she's so ugly, you know, I mean, she is not. - It's a brand new movie on Max Roger called Civil War. - Oh, yeah, I've seen it. The more it's like the end of days. - Yeah, you saw it in the scene, Raj? - Yeah, I did, I did. - Did you like it? - It was all right, not that good. - That could be worse in a year. - The story doesn't have no sense. - Oh my gosh, and at the end of the movie, they just put a bullet in Nick Offerman's head, and that's the movie. Oh, spoiler alert, if you're gonna watch Civil War. I think that just blew it for you. - I did. - We'll start a new Civil War. - Let's see again, this Civil War should have been in reality where everyone's pulling their phones out. Like that should be the Civil War, not guns. 'Cause when we, we have a Civil War, it's gonna be phones, like everybody just recording, everybody being, that's what it is. Yeah, it's gonna be much different. - What was you gonna say, Raj? - Or cell phones blowing up like they did in Israel. - Yeah. - Hey, so John Beasley, he was in the Mighty Ducks. He was the groundskeeper on Rudy, if you remember-- - Oh, yep. - Oh, I remember him. - Yeah, he was the groundskeeper that kind of tried to inspire him to keep going. He was in Little Big League, and the general's daughter with Travolta, and was trying to see what else here. He was in a couple horror movies, The Purge. - He was in The Purge. - Who was? - Purge, yeah, Anarchy, The Purge, Anarchy. - Yeah, okay. - Yeah. - Okay, that was, I watched, the original Purge was good. How have we not done a Purge on this movie? - Seriously. - On this podcast. Like, I don't understand how we've not done it. We're gonna have to throw a Purge in eventually 'cause-- - We gotta like five to two's from. - I like The Purge, didn't it like, (imitates Purge) It's like, okay, it's time to go kill it, I guess. Like, I can just imagine like movie torture casts sitting around at midnight, eating, and then we hear the horn and producer Gary puts a gun on all of this. He's like, it's time to do some killing. And we're like, whoa, Gary, we didn't mean to make fun of your Hawaiian church, man. - He starts playing back all the past podcasts of you always making tracks out of them and fun at them, and makes you suffer through it all before he takes you out. - Yeah, he takes me out, oh my gosh. We've made PG such a bad guy on this episode. It's like, he's got a heart of gold. He's gonna have to do that. He's an incredible guy. Ladies, y'all would love to date producer Gary. Back to Civil War, real quick, Jacob. That movie was terrible. It could be worse of the year. I don't wanna watch it again, so I don't want it on the worst of the year in January. 'Cause I can't do it. For when it was like an hour and 50 minutes, but it felt like four hours. - It did. - It was horrible. - It was horrendous. The storyline was bad. The acting was subpar. The whole plot of the movie was just non-existent. It made no sense. - Which movie is this again? - Civil War. - And we're tracking photojournalists. Do those even matter anymore? - No, nobody looks at newspapers or anything like that. M.T.D. doesn't even look at newspapers anymore. - No. - He goes online. - Yeah. - So, no, no, it's just a dumb movie. It's way more dumb than the movie what we're talking about, by the way. - That is true. - Yeah, way more dumb. But that movie "Civil War" probably costs less than this movie. - It probably did. - Not. - It probably costs way more. (laughs) - You think it, oh my gosh. I gotta look it up now. Civil War budget. It's gonna give me the 1,800 price. - It costs way more than this movie. - It would be shocking. - You think so? - If it costs less than "Walking Tall". - 2020, did it come out this year? 2024 budget. William. - I'm pretty sure it came out. - This movie only costs, oh, hold on. This movie costs less than "Walking Tall", Jake. - Really? - Okay, here's how. If "Walking Tall" was 46 million in 2004. - Sure, right. 20 years ago. - "Civil War" was 50 million in 2023. - Okay, so yeah. - Less. - Yeah, less. - "Civil War" was less. Oh, my, how in the world? - I don't understand it. - I can't even, I can't even fathom this. - Maybe torture deaths is 50 million. Yep, he's right. It's 50 million, for sure. - If you told me I had to watch two movies for the rest of my life or one movie, and it was between that and "Walking Tall". - I'm picking "Walking Tall" all day long. - Yeah. - Well, I'm picking a gun. (laughing) I'm just, I'm hanging it. I'm a noose, show me a noose, man. I don't wanna watch either. I just quit movies. Are they gonna make a new "Walking Tall" they should? I guess it's "Reacher", right? "Reacher" is kind of like "Walking Tall". - "Reacher" is kind of like the new one. - I'm tall here. - Yeah, I think so. Yeah, you could say that. - "Reacher" is way better than this, by the way. - Way better, yes. - But yeah, it's kind of like a "Walking Tall". - I do like the baseball band in this movie. Any time a guy's got a bat as a weapon, it's pretty cool. I mean, it makes you, you know. - I mean, you mean it's a couple more. - Or I got you one, no. - He didn't carry a bat. - It was a two-way-four that he shaved down to, like, look like a bat, basically, yeah. - I will say, did y'all guys catch this? This is near the end of the movie. - Where they're, like, shooting, he's with, like, the stripper girlfriend in her bra, right? And they start shooting the house and she's just standing there and he gets smooth. I'm like, why is she just standing there? Like, I would be ducking, I'd be hiding. I would be using the rock as a shield. - Yeah. - And like, she's just frozen, like, I don't understand it. - I thought the same thing. I was like, how do you not immediately just hit in the deck? Like, you were literally just standing there, covering your head, like, that's going to protect you. - Yeah, like, like a bullet can't go through your hands and through your skull, right? Like, it's just, I don't understand it. - One of my favorite scenes of that movie, though, 'cause it was such a boss move is when he pulled over Hamilton and he's like, getting his idea. And he's like, your tail lights, get your tail light fixed. And he's like, what's wrong with my tail light? And then he just smashes, I'm like, that's a pretty boss move. - That is such a boss movie. This movie was a blend of Reacher, Rambo, Roadhouse, like, it's a little bit of everything. It's a blend. - It is. - Yeah. You know, when I go back to North Carolina to visit Jacob, I'm going to kind of be like this guy. Like, I'm going to come in and be like, whoa, whoa, whoa. Why we got a casino over there? And I might just start go do some bashing. And I'm like, oh, this is my tackle, man. All right, where do, I'd be like, where'd the Walmart go, man? - Here's the real question we need to ask ourselves then. - What did MTV preserve your truck when you left? Or did he just let it go to the scrapyard? - Oh, he can preserve it. I didn't have a trip first off. But yeah, he didn't, I hadn't come back. Like, I'm coming back. Like, when I'll come back, I'll leave Kristen up here. I'll fly down. I'll be like, this is my tail, man. Like, where's the pizza hut? Why's it going? Like, we got, we got a dollar general there. I'm gonna put it out the business. - No more time. - No more time. Like, like the dollar general's the bad guy in this movie. And I'm just going after him in Belmont. Like, I'm like, you know what? We gotta have this over here. - You're just, there's just, there's been overran with mattress stores and dollar generals everywhere. - Brad just comes walking down the street looking at the clothes business that he once loved and the share pulls up. He's like, Brad, welcome back. Let me give you a ride. - He's took. And I'm like, I was like, can you block it on up in here? (laughs) - And then we just see Brad going home and he's like, MTV, do you still have my truck that left here? And he's like, no, I send it to the scrap yard. He's like, you can ride in my Subaru, boy. - No, MTV's. No, MTV goes, here, you can have this bike. I compensate, compensate. - Yeah. You can have the bike. - So I'm rolling around with a bike and then I call Chris and I'm like, hey, baby, I'm not coming home. They're making me share us. - Yeah. - Then you beat up the tear up the dollar general. You go to court, Brad's like, I'm defending myself. - Oh my gosh. Roger's in there. He's going, go get him. (laughs) - I'm gonna take you to drug school, Brad. - Roger's, Roger's in a shiny knot 20. He tells me all about drugs. - He's taking me to the drug store because that's what we got to get back 'cause dollar general put on not a business. - Brad's like stupid, maybe man. - Brad's in court is like, if you guys commit, let me off all these charges. I'll make sure there's not a single dollar general that last year and the crowd goes wild. They're like, yeah, Brad. - There's a secret. - There's a secret. - And I'm falling apart out of business too. The last scene is me greeting at Walmart. Welcome to Walmart. - We're in the secret world of blood pressure medication. - You know, on the down low. - Yeah, there's a scene where I'm popping my blood pressure medicine. - Taking them with center pronouns, sniffing it. (laughs) - I just like to, hm? - There's that secret scene where Brad's supposed to be taking down the Walmart's but he's in there filling out the application so he can be able to agree. (laughs) - The last scene of walking tall is, John, as you, my drug pusher walking in, I'm like, welcome to Walmart. Let me know if you go down to return. - I don't have to like put a sticker on it. (laughs) - Then it fades to black and it goes, (laughs) - Walking tall. - Oh, maybe not. - And MTD picks me up in a Subaru. (laughs) - Oh my gosh. - This is a funny scenario, Rod. Do you have any good reviews from this movie besides your old? - Beside my own. This, the meta critic says the rock makes a competent hero but the movie is content to do a two by four. Okay, let me do that again. The rock makes a competent hero but the movie is content to let a two by four do all the talking. Basically, it got a 26% on writing tomatoes and this film had an average grade of B plus on that A plus to F scale. Okay, I like this movie but who would give it a A plus? You know, what, what critic film critic would give it a A plus? - Do you want me to hear some five star Amazons? - Is this coming from like September of 2024? - Roger, Roger rendered in February 18th of 2024. I can watch it over and over again, great film. I know that was really Ian. April 27th, Sarah Sibley said five stars great birthday present. I mean, oh my, Roger, I swear if you gave me this movie for my birthday I would think you hated me. I'm like, he hates me. Like, I don't understand why he's doing it. - It, Roger. - We need everybody from the Hocat Network on Christmas just to send Brad this movie for Christmas. - Oh my gosh. - 15 copies. - Everybody pick a rock movie to send to him. - Oh my gosh. This one is Nikki Lindsey wrote 2022. This movie is based off a true story of a man who takes back his town from a high school friend doing the right Johnson clears the way the unlawful sheriff's department. I mean, all they're doing is just like, tell us what the movie's about. I don't, I mean, great classic film. Okay. Great action. Amy says in 2024, these, I don't, I don't understand why people are writing reviews on 20 year old movies. I don't get it. Like, what's the, why are you doing it? Just so you give me stuff to read. That's the only reason. - As we do a whole movie podcast on it. We're questioning that people believe in your energy. - And it's true, Roger, you did. - It's different. - It's different. We're talking about how it sucks. And these people are like putting down, they're taking time to log into Amazon to write a review that nobody's going to read but me. - They say it's like the best thing in cinema that's ever been put out. - Yeah. Oh my gosh, Roger, Jacob, Jacob, movie torture, movie gold. - I'm not going to go the full length. It's like movie torture, but definitely heavy, heavy movie bronze for sure. I'll probably never watch this thing again. (both laughing) - Roger, I'm going to say movie torture, movie goldy, but I know what you're going to say. So, go ahead and say it. - It's silver. It's not a gold language. It's a silver. It's a silver, you know. - You watch a silver over and over again? I don't understand that. - It's, I don't, sometimes there's just things that you know, you just, you know, it's like the, what you call it, when you rub a neck and drop down the road, you see something on the side of the road, you just happen to look at-- - Like looking at a wreck? - Yeah, well, that's, I guess that this, it's a partial train wreck of a movie. So, I mean, yeah, I just, it's on. - You just can't turn away. - Yeah, yeah. It's that, it's that Neil McDonough haircut that just every time I see it, I just, you know, just want to have hair like Neil. - Somebody just said they're in the house. I don't know, is that my, who's that my kid? It must be, oh, I would Max be on here. He doesn't get, who is in the house? Who is that? You see that, sport? - It's a sports, I'm in the house. - Who is that? I, we don't even know who that is. (laughing) - If I'd yourself. - Well, we know it's not Gary. - Well, it's not Gary, who is sports? You have to tell us who you are, sport. It's gotta be Jonathan. It's gotta be Jonathan. (laughing) It's gotta be. - I don't know, he would probably be at collision right now. - Oh my gosh, you would, let's see, show on stream. I'm in the house. - Sports clip. - Sports clip master. - Who is that? Who is sports clip master? I'm so confused. Wow. - And the, I mean, the avatar alone is. - It's amazing. It's a boss avatar, whoever sports clip master is. Maybe he got into the wrong show and he thinks that he's in, he thought he was watching the view and he's watching this and he's like, what in the world? (laughing) - I don't know who I am. - Oh, okay. Well, everywhere you are, sports. Thanks for watching. I gotta say for this movie, I'm gonna say, I don't know if I've ever issued a movie bronze ever on this show. This movie's closer to movie torture than movie gold. You know what? I can't do bronze, I've never done it. It's movie torture. I never wanna watch this again. Who M-T-D, this guy's gotta be trolling us. It's probably M-T-D, he's right at this old man. (laughing) - It's second person. - Yeah, it's his secret persona, sport clip master. Even though he cuts, when does he come on? Who is this? This has gotta be somebody that's just trolling us. This is M-T-D's biggest fan. It may be, it's maybe scary. I don't know. - M-T-M-A. - It's gotta be Hannah. She's duking on the four-wheeler right now. Hey, that's maybe torture. The only thing good about this movie is an hour and 24 minutes. That's the win. It really is. I was like, I can squeeze this in really quick. - Not much great about it at all. - No, I never watch this again. There's a reason I didn't care to see it in the theaters and there's a reason why I don't like it and it's not gonna go on my rotation. I would probably watch... No, I'm not gonna say I'd watch cocaine shark over this. I definitely wouldn't. This is not that bad. This is mid. It's very mid. It's not the worst movie we watched on here, but it surely isn't the greatest. That's for sure. - So. - Yeah. - That's all we got to say about that. That's what we just look at each other. Well, for sometimes Roger and for Jacob... Well, you know what? I'm gonna say it this way. For Jacob and my good buddy, Raj, who sometimes comes on, I like that better. My name is Brad and we will see you next time. Old movie torture. (upbeat music) - Hello, everyone. 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