(upbeat music) - What's up, before you get to your episode, I have announcement to make. My name is Brad, I host Work Advice for Me. And now I am getting a co-host and I want you to meet her. - I'm Claire, you might've heard me on the floor recap show on reality check with Brad and Heidi. And I am so excited that Hopecast wanted some new talent to co-host with Brad and they brought me on. So make sure that you download Work Advice for Me and make sure you tune in to our episode, November 5th. We can't wait to have you join us. - Yes, November 5th, we will be alive and you can watch us on YouTube. So stay tuned and follow us if you haven't followed us. We'll see you on the Hopecast Network. (upbeat music) (upbeat music) - This is the Hopecast Network, content that you actually want to listen to. (upbeat music) (upbeat music) - Well, welcome to another edition of Movie Torture. We've got a full room of participants. Some of them we hadn't seen in a while, but let's start off with my co-host, my buddy, my Minnesota buddy, Brad. What's happening, Raj? Always good to see you. How you been? - I'm doing pretty good, doing pretty good, just my panthers just took a meeting. Yeah, our panthers just took a meeting yesterday. So the talent Charlotte's pretty much depressed already. - Yeah, that's why I moved. Like, I don't want to be depressed anymore, it's sad. It was a sad day in my house, you know, it was brutal. But always good, you know, this isn't, this isn't depressing panther talk. This is, we chat about movies and we bring it. - Depressing movie talk. - Depressing movie talk. (laughing) It's what this is, yeah. We also are joined. We have a, this is a rarity in the movie torture life that we have a lot of people on the show at one time. We are joined by a First Lady of Movie Torture, Hannah. How you doing, Hannah? - Oh, I am, I'm doing great. And I don't really care about football, but I've noticed since I moved to Greenville, South Carolina, people here care more about college than they do NFL. Nobody here is talking about NFL. They're all talking about Clemson. - They're really different for me. (laughing) - Yeah, MTD is also in the house. He's on, he's now an official cast member. So he is saying hi First Lady. - He's just now an official cast member. He's been in the comments for a while. - And Jacob and Roger. But Roger's gone now. But I like how he just, he forgets PG up there. He's like, and Jacob and Roger. He doesn't say hi to me or you PG. - You guys are just the hired help, that's why. - Yeah, yeah, we are joined by Minnesota and Roger, Jacob, who spent last weekend trying to become movie torture dads. Favorite, how did that work out for you? - You know, I put a lot of effort in there. Played a lot of board games. - Well, yeah, he did. - There was a lot of, a lot of work put in. - Did you buy him donuts? - I did not. I did not buy him donuts. - See, there he went wrong. - Go to a Dunkin' Donuts. (laughing) - He said no, he didn't. He said, but Minnesota Roger did purchase a blonde wig and come over and say, I'm the first lady in movie portraits. Dad was like, no, you're not Hannah. I'm not falling for that. - Minnesota Roger, we had this, MTD and I had this whole skiing planned up. And Jonathan helped, but we had a trick we were gonna play on you, but we didn't get to play it because you run into us at the town home before we could start it. MTD, I was gonna tell you, he was deaf. And that's why I chatted on here. And we were gonna see if you talked really loud to him 'cause he was gonna act deaf around you. We had the whole thing worked out, we workshopped it. And Jonathan was like, maybe before the death, Jonathan was like, let's make MTD have Tourette's. And the reason he doesn't speak on here is 'cause he cusses a lot. So we were gonna try to get you to believe both of those. - He's deaf and has Tourette's. - I mean, I don't know what you do. I thought you were supposed to talk louder so that deaf people can hear you. I thought that was the way you did. - MTD and I were like, James, we're like, hey, how are you? - Somebody has cut their headphones blown out. - Oh, for sure, we blew out that speaker in your Hyundai whoever's listening, driving on. - I would have never thought Tourette's with moving towards your dad. I just figured he cussed a lot 'cause he had to raise Brad. So, you know, there's a lot of profanity thrown around. - Oh my God. Hey, this is a nice day, guys, because we have PG in the house producer Gary. And his Hawaiian shirt are present. - Can't sit without it. If you can't sit on it, yeah, nobody can't. People can see it. - Yeah, we can't. But, you know, I love how he took off lover of wolves under his producer Gary logo that I had there. He has a wolf behind him, guys. How is he not a lover of wolves? - Dawg. - I have some artwork. - What if we sent him that photo we all took together and he blew it up and put it in that frame right there? - That would be so sweet. - I know, Gary, you need to change the wolf out and put the photo of us on there. You mean the photo where it's just my head and nothing else for me on there? - Yeah, it's really a good photo to hit. I mean, you should do it, Gary. I have a big photo of you over my desk at work. Everyone sees it. - I almost like you said that. - I almost thought you said bed. (laughing) - Are you talking about the one that looks like you throw darts at it all the time? It's got like scraps brittin' off of it. - Yeah, but you know, Gary, the one where your shirt says he to she? - Oh, no. - And it's gigantic. It's not a small photo. It is gigantic. - No, it's not. - No, it's not a small photo. - Oh, I see it. I could be out in another room and I look, I would glance to my office and there's PG smiling. Oh my gosh, we're joined by Jonathan too. This is like an epic night. - We just need Trent to show up. Trent's like the Loch Ness monster, man. - We should text him. - We should. Somebody text in the group and say, "Hey Trent, why aren't you on just to freak him out?" (laughing) Anyway, we spent six minutes introly. Oh, MTV said high number three, Jonathan. (laughing) - I'm just thankful to still be number three. - Yeah, I don't even think I'm in there anymore. - MTV is Trent number four. There's PG number four. We need to know this. 'Cause we all just sit here. The people with me is not gonna see this. They don't know what we're talking about. ♪ Do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do ♪ Is he thinking about it? He's like, he's playing out. He's doing the beautiful mind board that throws all the numbers. Like, who's gonna be number four? He comes down. Who is it? Who is number four? Is it PG or is it Trent? Is it Blumhouse Trent? 'Cause I know it's not Brad or Roger. - Oh, that's a-- - Oh, oh. - That's a reasonable thing to say. You can't, you gotta have one. You can't say it's a tie. - With who? - You're tied with Blumhouse Trent, producer Gary? - It's giving, I love all of my children. I don't have favorites. - I think PG has to be number four. - It's solely because he's been on way more episodes than Blumhouse Trent. - Away? - He's been on a lot more episodes, right, Hannah? - Producer Gary? - Yeah, yeah, yeah. I thought you were saying-- - Blumhouse Trent-- - Jerry had been away more than Trent had been away. I'm like, well, I've-- - No. - Blum has only probably been on five or six episodes, right? - Yeah. - But PG's been on, of our close to 75 episodes, PG's probably been on 60 of 'em, I would assume. - Yeah. - Which is a hard clip, not a lot. - I can't believe we're, yeah, I can't believe we're up to 75. - PG number four, he awarded you number four PG. You can sleep good tonight. - Okay. Almost made a podium. - Yeah, you almost made a podium. (laughing) What he's doing is he's wanting you to work harder so you can make the podium. This is just a way to motivate you. - Work harder for what? (laughing) How? - To make the podium. - I watched the movie. - I watched the movie. - I took-- - You didn't watch the movie, MTV. Anyway. - Two movies. - Two movies. - I watched the movie. - You know, just for our listeners, by the way, I don't know if y'all even know this. We are at about 75, we are only about 25 episodes out from a hundred, which is amazing. Just gonna throw that out there. We're getting there. We gotta do something big for a hundred, so let's think about it so the listeners can have a big celebration of 100. So, is there a movie called the 100? No, that's the 300, right? - Yeah, 300. - Yeah, 300. It's the dude 300. Yeah, we should do 300 minus 200. (laughing) - Hey, there's a show called the 100. - Yeah, I've got to say that too, yep. Well, hey, you know what we're all here for? Let's talk about a movie. (laughing) So, let's jump into it. - Oh, yeah. - Soul Survivor is a 2001. It's deemed a psychological thriller. To me, psychological means you have to think about it and there was no thinking in this movie. (laughing) Yeah, the budget was 17 million and the box office was 4.3 million. - Ooh, that's a lot of it. Do the budget again? - Budget was 17 million. And the box office was 4,299,000. So it was almost 4.3. They only did, they only didn't be in the first weekend. The lowest wide, really, it was like in 601 screens. - It only went to 601 screens? - Yeah, it was the lowest for wide release during 2001. - I was gonna actually say, oh, I'm sorry. - Now, go ahead. - I was just gonna say that I wrote in my notes that this looks like a made for TV movie. Like when I was watching it, that's what I was thinking. I was like, this looks like something. I would just flip through and accidentally find and not know it ever existed. - Yeah, it was. - I got a confession to make, fellas. - Oh, no. - First lady. - Oh, no, we know. You saw it. - It's not even a confession anymore. - It's not even a confession. - It's all this in the theater, man. I was like, I'm gonna go like this. - You paid money for this. That's horrible. - I did, and I'll tell you what, I'll tell you what. - Probably enjoy it, too, didn't you? - No, I will tell you what hooked me in this movie. Eliza Dushku is the reason I went because she was really good in bringing it on, and she was on Buffy the Vampire Slayer, which, great show if anybody wants to find a show to watch. I don't think, when it holed up today, I don't know, it was good back early 2000. So I was like, oh, man, Eliza Dushku, I'm gonna go watch this movie, 'cause this is gonna be great. And yeah, so that she got me to the theater, which is what they probably were banking on, is guys like me going to pay to see her in a movie. - Mm-hmm. - It had to be, right? - That's exactly what they were doing. - Yeah, they don't think I was a buffie. - 'Cause nobody went. - I don't think I realized it was a Buffy TV show. - What? What? The Buffy TV show was awesome. Jacob, did you watch that show? You were shaking your head like you watched it. - 100%. I was a goth kid, then of course I watched it. - Oh, you see this, it was so good. Sarah Michelle Geller was great on there, man. It was good. They had different like, you know, weird creatures show up, and she would Buffy 'em. - I figured a few went to the theater to see 'cause of Ben Affleck's brother. (laughing) Casey Affleck is here. You're just jealous 'cause she's my girlfriend and you're your ex-girlfriend. - Listen, I don't know what she was taking and why she would have chosen the other guy over Casey Affleck. But that was not a good decision. (laughing) - Okay, before we get into this, do you want me to do a synopsis for this one? - Oh, well, you read it. I want you to do the synopsis. I made it up on the spot. And it's really short, actually. It goes like this. (coughing) (laughing) - Why don't we just say, girl in coma? - Yeah. - Movie. - Movie. - I want to know, at what point did you, well, you can't answer this, Brad, unless you remember all of those millennium ago when you watched this movie in the theaters. But at what point did you either realize that she was in a coma or think that she was possibly dead already? - Oh, 10 minutes. (laughing) - It took me a while. - It took me a while. (laughing) - Really? I mean, it took me, I-- - It felt the professor, oh, when she was looking for her grade on the board and her grade wasn't there. And I was like, this chick's dead. I was about to be so mad. Turns out she was in coma, but-- - And it's okay 'cause I was there with you. It took me a while until it got to like, where she was like in the 1981 Catholic church. I was like, okay, she's either in a coma or dead now. (laughing) - Wait, okay. So when she looked at Elijah Dushku at the beginning after the movie had started, and it showed that weird, like evil face, that didn't throw you off and make you go, okay, something's up with Elijah Dushku over here. Like something's up. - No, 'cause she could've been seeing things. She's been through a traumatic experience. And I wouldn't be trying to gaslight her like Homeboy was saying, you're not seeing things, you're crazy. (laughing) Okay, let's start at the beginning. 'Cause I want to talk about some issues in the beginning of this movie. So the movie picks up. Well, first, I like this movie 'cause it's an hour and 20 minutes. So, I mean, this movie said, this movie had a bow that said just for you, Brad, like written right on it. No, it was terrible. It was like being water-ported, but it-- - Still, oh, it was still too long. Hour and 20 minutes. It was still too long. - I think a hard like 55 minutes would've been perfect for this movie. This was Gary, you were right. This was like a good melodrama you would see on the CW. That's what I would think. But you got these two idiots. And they're like moving this. I mean, these two guys are so hooked on this blonde. I don't get it. - For no reason. - They got Elijah Dushku hanging out in this crew. - Who can actually act. - And they're going for, yeah, but they're going for this blonde who-- - Who can not act. - What are they seeing here? Yeah, who can not act? And they're walking this stuff out, and he gets out there and bad guy Toby Maguire, 'cause I've always thought Wes Bentley kind of looked like an evil Toby Maguire. - What? - He's like a poor man Toby Maguire in my mind. - I thought that say that was it first. - Thank you. - He's the wiener from Yellowstone. - Yeah, I'll gotta get your eyes checked. Don't do that to Toby Maguire. - Yeah, he's like, she got you carrying her stuff out for. And he goes, "You're just mad 'cause she's Maguire." - But you're the one, her ex-boyfriend's driving her, and I'm like, this is a, it's like the worst exposition ever. Like, it's like the writer's like, "We gotta lip first lady knows that this is her boyfriend now, and that guy's her ex-boyfriend." Like, in what world, Hannah, in what world would you drive your ex-boyfriend? - No world. You can just, you don't have to finish that sentence. - With his new world. - I was like, this is not even, this is fantasy island here. - That's not a fantasy? That's no, that's a no. - No, it's just stupid, it's not a good thing. It's like, unless they're gonna be a throttle, I was thinking, - Wait a minute. - I'm surprised that didn't happen at some point. Also, though, I like how the only way that they could let you know in the beginning that this was supposed to be a horror movie or something, was when they kept letting the fake rain that turned into blood. Those scenes kept cutting in between all the beginnings of the story, I was like, oh my gosh. - That look like the cheapest, that look like the cheapest special effects. M.T.D. wants to know, was it a remake? No, this is not a remake. - It hands down had to be the worst movie intro ever made. - The music was horrible. - The music was horrible. - It was. - The whole water thing behind the, you know, the names of the girls. - It was so bad. - I was like, somebody just turned on the sink and they stuck the camera right over the sink. - I had this conversation yesterday. Do you think our TVs are too good for movies made this old now? Like, I feel like the quality looks crazy. - I'll be honest, this movie looked way older than it actually, I thought for sure, this was made early 90s at the latest. - At the latest. - And it was 2001. (laughing) - You're like, this is like, gotta be 91. You're like, not 2001. Wow. It's like, I, this, this movie quite possibly had the worst cornball soundtrack of all. Like, this music in here was like. (mumbling) - Honestly, I would buy, I'd buy that soundtrack. - Soundtrack? It's a movie. - This was terrible music in this movie, Hannah. There was like, it was so dumb. And then we cut to the credits, the opening credits. And I'm like, (gasping) thank you for taking up time 'cause I just couldn't fast forward on TV. (laughing) - Maybe these credits can be nine minutes. - Possibly. - It's like, no. This movie, these two guys are driving her. They go to a rave. This is a rave. Like, raves were all the thing back. They were the big thing back in 2001. I got a story. - Oh boy. - Oh no. (laughing) - So I was in the military at the time. And we went to this navy ball in Portland. And I went with this guy. We were dressed up in, I didn't go to date with this guy. - Oh yeah, I was getting rich. I got into that. (laughing) - I knew that's where y'all are going. He was like, let's go. We'll go, we'll go try to find a chick at this navy ball, right? So we put our uniform on, which I didn't even like doing. Like my navy, like my cracker jacks, right? We walk down the street, we get there. That's what they call them, Rod, during the Navy or cracker jacks. (laughing) And I stay at this party the whole time. And there's this girl. And we are, she comes up to me. Now, this is the only time that has ever happened in my life. She comes up to me and she's, I'm thinking, oh my gosh, she's gonna ask me to dance with her. I'm ready, I'm ready. 'Cause I was too scared to talk to girls. She comes up and she's like, my friend wants you to dance with her. And I look over and Rod, her friend was probably your height, or taller, maybe Gary's height. Sweaty armpits, like gross. (laughing) And, so I'm like, oh, very much. So I go out there and I dance with her for like a minute. 'Cause I'm too nice, I can't say not. 'Cause I mean, what am I gonna say? No, I'm too busy holding the bleachers now. And so I go out there, I'm dancing with this girl. But her friend, I keep eyeballing the friend, first lady. So then I pull the switch off. I pull the old switcharoo. I move over to the friend who I thought was attractive. - It's so mean though. - Oh, oh, it gets me in the end. So, we're dancing and we're dancing. We're having fun, we danced the night away. I mean, literally, for the next two hours. Me and her, getting to know each other. Grooving on the dance floor, laughing, having a fun time. Did we make out possible? And so then she goes, hey, we're having a party up at my hotel room. You wanna come? I'm like, yeah, so I'm looking at my buddy. I'm like, hey, we're gonna go to this girl's party. 'Cause the big girl, who I didn't like, it's all one, she was dancing with all the Canadian sailors at this point. So I'm thinking, I'm in the clear, she's moved on. She goes, this is, Hannah, you might have done this to a man before. - Why? - It's 'cause this girl's tall? - No, no, no, no, no, hold on, let's do the story. She goes, she goes, yeah, she goes. - I'm gonna go to Brad. - She's not gonna die on my hobbit. She goes, she goes, let me go, let me go talk to my friend. And we'll be back, we're gonna go up to the room and I'll come back down and get you in a minute. I'm like, okay, now, 45-year-old Brad would be like, deuces, I'm out, right? I mean, I wouldn't be out dancing anyway. But second, I was like, okay, so me and my buddy stood out in the rain waiting for a solid 45 minutes and then we realized she wasn't coming back. She just, why were we both waiting when there was only one option? - Yeah, but I need to get to the point of the story. So we left there, next thing you know, Hannah, Raj, Jacob, PG, Jonathan, we're in a rave. We stop at a rave in our uniforms. So we're in this club and it's like, and there's people in cages dancing and I'm like, oh my gosh, this is so weird. And we're just like, I mean, it's just jammin'. So that's my one rave experience. I got rejected, but then I rave. - I don't know. - I'll be on. - I thought I missed one. - Yeah. - I thought this was going somewhere where it went to be on a rave. - 'Cause if you stayed at the rave, you should've had another story or something with it. - I didn't stay long 'cause the music was super un-- I couldn't like, that was back when like, oh my God. Who's that guy? It was all you ever heard was Fat Boy Slim. Remember Fat Boy Slim? Oh my gosh, that was back in Fat Boy Slim time. And it was, yeah, there was not much happening to rave. I'm not a big rave guy. What do they call it now? Ian, what do they call it? E-M-T? - E-M. - E-D-M. - E-M-E-M. I'm not an E-D-M. I'm not an E-D-M-R. - So what I got for that was basically, you tried to shallow hell a girl and then that raved. (laughing) - Yeah, I did try to shallow hell a girl. - So-- - It worked Jacob, I had her for most of the night. I didn't have to dance with sweaty fists. I'd dance with a prettier girl. (laughing) - Did the club look like a homeless encampment? 'Cause that's what I got from this club in this movie. Was that it looked like a homeless encampment? - I hate movie clubs and raves and parties. They're so inaccurate. No club looks like that. - They very are. - No. - Who goes to a dumpster fire like that? First off, like literally there was fire. I think there was fire, right? - Yeah, but yeah, that's well. - But here's the thing, even from that beginning, see that movie like, like even the whole part of the like, who weren't those people? Why were they chasing them down on a car? And then they just like stopped at the mode. Like what was the whole motive behind that whole scenario? - I don't know, but was that one girl like, was that Katie Lang? - Nah, the girl with short hair? That'd be Katie Lang, right? - No, it was her name was Angela Featherstone. - Oh my gosh, I thought she was Katie Lang. And they're like, well, Katie Lang's acting now, man. - One, they're in this like, goth rave, which no goths are gonna be ever raved. That's just not totally different scene. And then they're-- - We're not gonna party again, Jacob. - What's that? - We're not gonna party it. - We're keeping this family friendly, but we went to a place in Minneapolis called Ground Zero. It was, yeah. - We have both. - I mean, maybe-- - I thought you were gonna say like the highway underpass or something. - But like she, they walk into this rave and like you have the guy standing around, they're like the blonde girl. And then it was like, they just were triggered by a blonde-haired girl being in this goth rave. - Didn't they try to like assault her? And she's like, get off. - Yeah, the guy in the mask. And then they chased him down the door. It was just a weird event. - But they had to have something to get them to crash, right? Like it was-- - There's something different people can do. - That crash looked like the crash was saying out live every time was it jinxy or whatever, would go off the cliff and it looked so-- Yeah, he's like, oh. That's what it was a dumbest crash look ever, man. Like, I don't understand. First, I don't understand how they got this cast to sign up for this movie. I really don't understand it. Like-- - It's pretty bad. It's pretty bad when you say, yeah, Luke Wiltson's kind of a low ball in that for this movie. You know it's gonna be a bad movie. - Yeah, you know, like Casey Affleck over here and he's like, oh, I just want to sign up for this movie over in Boston. - Why are you doing his voice like that? He doesn't sound like that. - He does sound like that. He's kind of like-- - Don't you just-- - No, he does. - He was Missouri. Hollywood's basically canceling him too, right? Like, he's coming back, but he was canceled for a little while. - Why? - I'm not mistaken. - Who's that? - Casey Affleck, I think he was like accused of assaulting a woman or harassing her. - Let's go to the-- - You got a bad rash. - Let's go to the videotape. - Go to the video. - Go to the videotape, Raj. You're like my official here. Anyway, so they crash. So now, next thing you know, we're at her boyfriend's funeral. And I'm like, yay, Casey Affleck's dead. We never had to see him again in this book. - See, I was sad. He was the only person who died. I was like, it should have been everyone else. I hate everyone else in this movie. - Yeah, like-- - I will say, yeah. Oh, let me see what you're saying. I did expect everybody else to die. And only one guy died in the whole movie. - Well, the way the crash was laid out, you would assume they're all like dead. I mean, the crash looked horrible. I mean, it was just hard to watch. It was just stupid. But yeah, I'm like, okay, I love the funerals too. I won't, I won't have my MTD if I die anytime soon. I want you to blow up a photo like, 'cause that's an all Hollywood movies, man. At the funeral, there's like this big like, like three foot photo of the person by the casket all the time. And I'm just like, where they have time to do this, man? Funeral's turn around and like, are you keeping a photo ready? Are you photo ready for your funeral? And what picture? I mean, then you're like, okay, Casey Affleck's dead, good. They're there. We're stuck with Jerk Toby McGuire, at this point, who, when you say, how about the drawing behind you? Oh my God. Yeah, blow that one up. I don't know. We'll have that one on mine. But you know what I'm saying? Like we're stuck with, I don't even know, he's such a jerk. And then he's like, another thing before they crash, we didn't even talk about this. He's like, if we're never gonna talk again, just kiss me, just kiss me. And I'm like, you sound pathetic, man. Like, I wanna kiss, I would wanna kiss my wife if she just kissed another man. And we're dating, 'cause he just watched her make out with Casey Affleck. He did have a Me Too movement, kind of sexual harassment allegations. He was supposed to present the award for best actress at the 90th, when the whole Me Too thing kind of hit that night. And of course he's apologized. He also, before that, made some real harsh statements about Trump. And just to kind of top it off, he's a vegan. So. - It's 11. - I think that everything has been-- - You like him? Are you a Casey Affleck fan? - I was. - Let's be real. This guy is an Academy Award-winning actor. He won best actor in Hollywood, which is mind-blowing. You know he-- - For what? - What was it? - Manchester by the Sea, that's what he won it for. But do you think? - I'm not even aware of that movie. - I think it's an Amazon movie. But do you think he has anyone come up to me? This is being my ultimate Casey Affleck dream right here. Like, let's just say all of us are hanging out. I would like to go up to Casey Affleck and go, "Hey man, are you that guy and soul survivor? "Do you think that's ever happening?" - He's gone on record to say that this and another movie are his two least favorite films he's ever worked on. - What's his least favorite? What's the other one? - This one and-- - I have the one he got in all the charges. - Oh, see, I went to theater and saw Johnny Mona. - I don't know what that is. - That's from like '98. It's got Danny DeVito in it, so I'm sorry I remember right. But I think it has Nev Campbell and y'all know how I feel about Nev Campbell. I think she's a garbage actress. But it's terrible. But yeah, so Casey Affleck is dead. This guy's like putting the moves on the girl. You can tell he's angling from his blonde. I don't know why she's got so much smoke around her. I don't understand why they're thinking she's fire, 'cause she's not. Nope. I mean, Gary, what do you think, man? Like, is she bringing it like, I mean, why aren't they fighting over Eliza Dushku? - 'Cause she's the wild girl. - I don't know. - Right. - Oh, gosh. - And then the wild girl. The blonde? - No. - No, the other one. - Oh. Let's say she was not. - Oh, yeah. - Oh, yeah, okay. - And then the director. - That's how they're portraying it, is that, you know, the blonde girl was like the innocent, sweet girl, and the other one is not. So the guys are drawing towards the-- (laughs) - Well, I think it be drawn to the wild girl. - It's the opposite, yeah. - I know, this is really so weird. Do you think the writer and the director got together and they're like, okay, we gotta make this movie a little more spicier. Let's have Eliza Dushku kissing a girl on here. That looks like a dupe. (laughs) I mean, it's-- - Oh, yeah. - What was the point of that scene? I don't even understand the point of that scene. Like-- - That was the whole movie. - Yeah. - I mean, basically-- - Yeah. - --to the synopsis, that was the whole-- You just sat there the whole time saying, why are they doing this? Where's this going? - Yep. - You know? And like at the end, when all of a sudden she, you know, there was no, like, I was expecting the girl that was dying on the table next to her, the Raven chick, her, say, trying to pull her away, like, come on, come to the dark side, you know, and then she just closed her eyes and put the blanket over her head, and it's like, you know, and then Luke Wilson comes up and says, you know, you got to live. You got to live. So Casey Affleck's waiting on you. (laughing) - I really, I really want you to live. I'm Casey Affleck. - Um, what, Roger? Okay, who is Owen, who is, uh, Luke Wilson's movie? - He was a priest. - I was telling, well-- - But yeah. - --that I'm not an idiot. I was talking to Minnesota Roger at church yesterday about Luke Wilson because when I looked at Luke, I kept thinking of Mitchapalooza. I couldn't get, this is, like, fresh around old school time. I, I feel like this come out, like, right after old school, right before. So you know Luke Wilson was not wanting anybody to know he was in this crap hole. But, what is he, is he real? Like, is he imaginary? Is he an angel? Like, what's the deal with Luke Wilson? - Yeah, this, uh, this one came out, and, see, the same year he did Legally Blonde and the Royal Tenen Bombs. Um, so he did, he did old school after this. - So, so you're telling me, he got his agent sent him scripts and he goes, "Okay, uh, the Royal Tenen Bombs. I'm gonna do that one." And, uh, Legally Blonde sounds good. Oh, oh, uh, soul survivors. That's gonna be real good. Like, talk about-- - Well, just three years earlier he did a movie called "Bongwater." So, I mean, you know, his agent-- - The man just has to pay the bills, you know? But that was before old school. After old school he could write his own checks, right? 'Cause old school made him a star. - Oh, his brother did Owen. - I just don't understand his whole life when-- - Wait, he's related to Owen? - Yeah. - That's his brother. - I'm so slow, so sorry. Didn't not know that, uh, it's very interesting. - Oh, wow. - But it's like this, like, when she first meets him, like this weird goofy pose that he's in, like shaving the wood. And he's just like, hello. I'm like, this is the most previous-- (laughing) And he's like, "You wanna come talk to me?" She's like, "Sure." (laughing) - Sure, I'll talk to a priest. Don't you guys, uh, diddle kids? I mean, that's the whole point, right? Like-- - Like, he's got his leg posted up on this, you know, on the step and he's just like slowly shaving this wood. I'm like, what is going on here? I don't understand any other ones. (laughing) - I really thought at some point he was gonna make a move on her. I was very shocked that he did not. - Well, they would say that for 1981 priest. (laughing) - I do think there could have been a tad bit more horror in this movie. (laughing) - I mean, yeah. - Well, instead of the girl that was there. (laughing) - Like, even Roger probably wasn't scared in this movie. (laughing) - No, I usually don't get scared. I just, yeah, I was just, uh-- - I hate horror movies, and I hated this one, but not because of the horror, because they're like-- - Yeah. - Well, yeah, I mean, you're right. It would have been nice, Jacob, if Katie Lang had reached over and like grabbed her arm and been like-- - Come with us. (laughing) - You know, something weird. Like, and then she pulled her down to hell for a moment and you're like living this hellscape. That might have been a little bit better. - We got caught. - Or if she's haunted by the ghost, like, what if, what if we had a, um, what's that movie? I know what you did last summer movie, kinda where they all die, she lives, but they haunt her and she's living her life and she's running into, like, Casey Affleck and he's going, "Man, Chester, by the sea." You know, and she's like, "What?" You know, like, I-- - I made my wife wash this with me and she was looking it up, and apparently-- - Why would you do that to Laura? - Because, no, I can't be the only one that suffers. (laughing) But she was reading something on it, but it was, like, basically saying, like, when she's in this coma, the people chasing after her, they're supposed to represent death, so they're trying to finish her off or good to where her boyfriend in this rando fake priest we know nothing about is supposed to be life, trying to call her back to life or get her out of her coma. - Yeah, I don't feel like they did a very good job. - But that was supposed to be the holes in the offices of the-- - Yeah, yeah. - I'm pretty proud of that. - Anthony said, "How would you make it better?" You could press delete on the whole file. (laughing) - Hey, hey, I just, like... This movie feels like a movie that was shelled for, like, four years, and then released in September. Well, it was released September 6, 2001, which could have played an effect on the movie with September 11th happening. - That's true. - That could have heard it. I don't know. I mean, this movie literally is almost to the day 23 years old. I mean, wow. It's almost a quarter century old, because we're recording. We're not, well, let's not till the day they were on now. But, you know, we don't record all these in October, so we're planning this. But it's almost to the day of what we're recording right now, which is even ear ear. I'm waiting to see if Luke Wilson's going to walk up around me in a minute, man. - I'd be okay with that. I'd be like, "Come here." You just sit right here. (laughing) - Well, you could be like Mitchapalooza. - Like, MTV was saying, like, you can make this movie better in ten seconds by the boyfriend thinks, dies. They never find the body. She still gets with ex-boyfriend because she was super too eager to kiss him when he was begging for it. - Mm-hmm. - It's like, I mean, this sounds good. Let's do it. And then basically, you almost turn it into somewhat of a slasher film and the boyfriend that they all thought was dead is really not, and he's going around trying to-- - That would have been somewhat-- - Exactly. - And-- - Or-- - Because she's now with ex-boyfriend and they're all happy and smiling. - And because Casey Affleck kinda does have that more soft voice, it'd make it way more creepy if you were just going around murdering everyone. - Exactly. (laughing) - But that's kind of like, I know what you did last summer. What if you make it, he is dead. She gets with ex-boyfriend because you're right, Jacob. He's like, "You just need to kiss me." Okay. - She was. - I was. - I mean, don't twist my arm, but I'll do it. (laughing) - Like, just like, okay. - And then she pulled up. - It's not what it looked like. (laughing) - Yeah. That's what everybody would say. - And why are you obsessing, madam? (laughing) - That's when I tell Chris and I'm not eating sweets and she walks in and catches a cupcake in my mouth and I'm like, "It's not what it looks like, baby, it's not." - You gotta talk with all of your face. (laughing) - It's so bad. - I was like, but what I was gonna say is, he could die, right? And then she ends up marrying a mean Toby Maguire and the ghost starts to haunt them. Like, in a lot of dudes, Chris shows up, she's like, "I saw." She gets into a nut home. She's like, "I saw him." And she's like, scratching. She starts doing drugs. She's like, "I saw him." He's like, "I saw him." And then he's like, "I'm Casey Affleck." And he comes in and he gets kills him with Casey Affleck. - They get married, he comes back as a recartinated baby. It starts wreaking havoc. - Oh my gosh. What if they have the baby and it's him? - Exactly. - That's what I was saying. They need to have a baby. It comes out looking like him. He turns out it's not actually Matt. It's actually Casey's. (laughing) - Mmm. I like that. And it has the, what if she had a baby that had the Casey Affleck face? Just was his adult face. - Okay. She's like, "Take it back to the hospital. Give me a different one." (laughing) And he's like, "You killed me." (laughing) Nah. Baby comes up. She's like, "Nah." We leaving that behind. (laughing) She's like, "I know." He goes, "I saw you kiss him. You didn't know I'm flying." (laughing) Now you gotta change my diaper. (laughing) - Umm. (laughing) - The next scene, we take this movie from a horror movie to like a domestic horror movie. Like a domesticated horror movie where she's got an apron on. And Casey Affleck's adult face on a baby body. And he's like, "Come here. I've gotta poop in my diaper. (laughing) You should be my wife." What? (laughing) - Why does Casey Affleck sound like Kristen now? (laughing) - Wait, wait. - It's not sound like this. (laughing) - What's she sound like then? (laughing) Hey, Brit. Come over here. - That's right, there's a little more gravel in there. Hey, Brit. I need you to go home. - Oh, she smoked for 30 years. (laughing) - Like she was friends with Jonathan before y'all got married. (laughing) - Yeah. He was passing her some basics. - Can I have one of those basics? (laughing) - No, but that would have been a creepier movie. Like you're watching baby Casey Affleck. And he's like killing people. It's kind of like chucky. - I understand that's an action chucky. (laughing) - Oh. - Huh? - A live action chucky. - No. (laughing) - Don't like that. They should make a sequel called Soul Survive. (laughing) - You didn't like chucky Hannah? - No, I watched it when I was younger. It gave me bad dreams, so it's just love me with PTSD. But then in my adult life, one of my piano students had a chucky. They had a movie themed room where we did our piano lessons. It was really cool, but they had a chucky doll. And just sat in his chair staring at the piano lessons. I turned its face around. - Hey, as a kid, I actually had a good guy doll. - No. - That was gifted as a kid. - Oh my gosh. - Why? - I was terrified of that thing as a kid. (laughing) - I wish we could send Gary one right now just to see his reaction. - Ooh. - No. See, I don't want the doll. - Watching the movie, I actually watched the movie a couple weeks ago again. It's, the movie's not that scary to me because it's just, I mean, it's a, it's a little person running around. (laughing) - Oh, you're talking about chucky. I thought you meant you watched Little Survivor a couple weeks ago too. (laughing) - Got that. I would not watch this movie again. I don't think you could pay me to watch this movie again. (laughing) - I will say, Tubi's bringing it, man. If you look at the Tubi catalog, it's looking pretty legit. - It is. - I'm literally, it's a movie today. How much I hate Tubi because not only are the movies terrible, I also have to watch ads. - Oh, yeah. - All we can see is your teeth here. - I know. - So it's so weird. (laughing) - M.T.D. is not, M.T.D. is moving you down to number two now because you can't see you anymore. - In the dark, you look like the guy in the movie that wears that like clear mask and all you can see is the Tubi mask. - Yeah. If I had some dark, I would put it on. So then when I, I would be able to see my teeth on a smile. - It's just the sunset and I haven't been able to stand up and turn the lights on. So I'm just sitting in the dark. (laughing) - We'll go turn the lights on. We can wait on you. I mean, we can still talk while you're there. We, that's when. - Well, now it's a thing. You were able to just leave it. - Now it's my signature for you. - Yeah. - I will always show up on podcasts like this. (laughing) - She covers her face like the lady who got her face mauled off and Jim crazy. - Which by the way, most bonkers documentary, Jacob, did you watch the recent episode? I'm in, on episode four. - I'm not yet, but I'm going to very shortly here. - Yeah. Y'all need to watch it. So max, I'll have access to my max. - Which movie? - Y'all can go and watch it. - This one? - Chip crazy. It's a documentary. It's episodes every Sunday night. It's, it's so amazing. It's so much better than soul survivors. - That doesn't take much. - Well. - And you got some weird things. - Yeah. - It's like a vote of confidence. - Yeah. - It's like a vote of confidence, Brad. - So let's get to the end of this movie because there's not much we can really. She realizes that she is still alive and they're all dead. - Except for the boyfriend is alive, correct? Right? - Except for Casey Affleck. - It's so funny. What I was actually, what I hoped had happened and ended up actually happening. I had hoped that Affleck was still alive and everyone else was dead and then that ended up happening. - And they were. - Except for the blog. - Yeah. But, but your, your dream was only partially true because you wanted them to be dead and never see them again. But we ended up being dead and being the stars of the movie. - We had started to watch them for another hour. - Was, is that guy the guy in American Beauty, by the way, the mean, uh, Toby McGuire? Is that the guy in American Beauty? - Yeah. - He does not look like Toby McGuire. - Yeah. - He's the brother on, uh, Yellowstone. - Okay. Brother on Yellowstone, but I know him from Kevin Spacey trying to put the moves on him in America Beauty. - That's a two hour movie. I can't believe you watched that, Brad. - I went to the movie theater and saw American Beauty. I thought it was a great movie at the time. - You're watching the movie. You're watching, not that part, but you're watching a movie where a, a plastic bag just floats in the air. And you're like, oh my gosh. Well, this is weird. And then this creepy old dude's like got the hots for like a 16 year old, which is even weirder. It's really a terrible movie if you think about it. - Sounds like it. I've never seen it, but it sounds terrible. - Should we, should we do American Beauty? - No, two hours. - A podcast. - No, two hours. - If you make me watch that, you've got to start paying me. Oh my gosh. - It's actually a good movie. - I'll give you a raise. - It's, it's. - It is a good movie. - It's, it's. - It's kind of represents culture at the time. - But now I'll be at the age of, I can still think of his name. His name was Lester Burnham in the movie. - Yeah. - Kevin Spacey. And he basically Hannah has a midlife crisis in the movie. His wife's cheating on him with a realtor and he goes out and buys a sports car that he always wanted and. - Starts with the weights and smoking weed. - Yeah. It's pretty good movie. You would actually probably like it Hannah. It's not bad. It's a dark comedy. - Anyways, it is, it is kind of dark. - Anyway, Roger, do you have any reviews on this movie? - Not any positive ones, but I do have reviews. The New York Times panned this film saying, "Yes, there's an explanation for everything, but it's a long time coming and not worth the weight." Empire said, gave the film two stars and said, "We've been here before and we'll be here again." And then another one said, "It didn't feel like a whole movie to me. It's more of a collage of tensionless repetitive scenes patched together with crazy lighting and flashing about and loud music booming in the background." - I agree. - I pretty much sums it up. - Yep. That could have been our synopsis. - Okay, I have some five star Amazon. - Oh boy. - And there is five stars. - Oh my. - No. - I can't believe you found that. - What year is the closest year of a review I'm going to read? - This year. - Y'all, we're going to play this team. - 2024. - No. - No. - What year we say this came out? - 2001. - Okay. - So. - 2006. - 19. - 2019. - No. - 2023. - 2020. - Oh man, people just had enough money to do with their time. We got sucked in this. - Oh man. - Jimmy. Is this M.T.D.? Are you going to play to review those survivors? He's just seeing him sitting there. What are you doing? What are you doing dad? Hold on, I'm putting a review in for this movie. Jimmy writes, good movie. Eliza Dushku is a good actor. So an easy watch for me. - Oh man. - Thank you Jimmy. - What? - I like how he's just saying. - He watched this movie for the whole two and a half scenes that she was in. This one's from Luis Cesaras. He writes, five stars. This is a movie about the world of dead and the world of living. After a night of partying, college freshman Cassie and her friend are involved in a bloody car accident that turns, whoa, whoa, whoa. I mean you just give them, they're all great cast. Eliza Dushku, Melissa, Sage and Miller, Angela Featherstone, Casey Abbott Westmanly. Great movie. I like how this guy just, I'm a writer review. This guy, oh, Andrew Geese, this is the best one. He gives it a five stars in 2013. So we're 11 years past this time. Andrew writes, I'll be honest. I haven't even watched this movie yet. - That's why he has five stars. - He's dead. - What? - But I will. - Wait, is that real? - Yeah. - Because I'll be honest, I haven't even watched this movie yet, but I will, and I'll enjoy it. - He tried to speak that one into existence. - I think when, okay. - Is it real or suspenseful? - I think when Casey Affleck's was being me too, he had a lot of down time, so he just went on there doing reviews for this movie. - Oh my gosh. - I wish there was an update to that review, but it was like, update. - Update. I did not like it. (laughter) - The last part was the signature. - P.S. movie sucks. - P.P.S. don't watch. - P.P.S. I'm glad they canceled Casey Affleck. Oh crap, he's back. - How brave do you have to be to review a movie before you watch it though? - I feel like that's a Gary. I feel like you would do that, Gary. - No. - Why? (laughter) - I was so offended about that. - I know. - It's a stupid thing to do. I don't know what happened to anybody because I'm like, you would probably do that, Gary. - Gary, you should make choices in life. You can choose to enjoy something. - Yeah. - And so therefore you can say, I will watch this movie and enjoy it. Doesn't mean it's a smart thing to say or do, but it can be done. - Yeah. Producer Gary. - No. - Is that a power? - Is that a power? - MTV wants to know, is that a power? - Nah, I think you just... - It's like, wait, no, no, Hannah. If I pick a movie up, let's say I go pick up Batman and Robert and I go, hey, I'm going to like this. This is going to be a great movie. That's like me staying at a home plate pointing at left field going. I'm about to crack a homer right that way. You're just calling you shot, man. - That's a hook. - Yeah, but you didn't even know you're playing baseball yet. You're like, I'm like, yeah, it is. Because you haven't seen the movie. You have no idea. And you can't just go, oh, it's going to be great. - No, he didn't say the movie was great. I don't think he said he was going to enjoy it. - How many of you know? - Okay. Maybe this doesn't affect you, Hannah, and probably not producer Gary. But how many of you used to go to Blockbuster and choose the movie solely off the picture on the front? - Like every day. - Like this picture looks like a cool movie. If you look at the poster, you look like you're going to get a good movie. Like it's going to be kind of creepy. - We would not have been allowed to pick out this movie solely based on the picture. But also we weren't allowed to go into the video stores. - Well, mom and dad would go in and we had to wait in the car. - We need a whole podcast where we just unpack all the things Hannah didn't get to do. - Oh my gosh, how much drama? - Makes sense. You know, I would not have thought, if you just said we wouldn't be there. So I'd probably be like, no, you're lying. Fake news news in a way. - Gary, we couldn't do that because there were bad movies there. And we could see them with our delicate children eyes. So we would, there was a little Caesars right next to the movie store. So we'd get little Caesars and we'd sit in the car and chow down. And mom and dad would go in and get the movies. - They would go in and pick them for you. Oh my God. - We would sometimes talk about it before they went in, but if they didn't have the movie we were looking for, then they'd just pick something else. - They're never walking out with the lives of douche goos. - No. - Soul survivor. - No. - I got your soul survivor, Hannah. - The whole movie would have been blocked out because we had those clear play filters, blocks out violence, gore, sex scenes, language. We'd have missed the whole thing. - Oh, you're boring. - You have that good aim. - Oh, you have that good aim. - Yes. - That's moving over. - And the pouring blood rain. That's all she saw. - No. Did you talk about that out? That'd have been considered gore. - Luke Wilson's in this movie? What? - That's all we see. - The only scene we would see is him sanding the wood. - Yeah. - Hello. - The only scene we would see would be in the church. - Yeah. - Where would PG be in this movie? - I think he could be the priest's assistant. - Oh, yeah. He brings the holy water in. - The water boy. - He dropped it. - The holy water boy. - He spilled the holy water. - What? - He spilled the holy water. He's all in the credits. It says holy water boy. - Producer Gary. - Yeah. You're the one who is pouring the water in the very beginning of this movie. And then you've dropped some blue coloring in to turn it red to make it look like. - I think he would have made a good bouncer. You know, when they go into the club, they're stamping everybody. Gary's a good stamper. - Yeah. - I don't know. I kind of like him as the holy water guy because I can imagine a scene where Luke Wilson goes, "I need my holy water. Where's my holy water?" And then PG goes, "Yes, Father. Yes, Father. I have it right here, Father." - When in reality, he had gotten thirsty so you drank it. So you saw a bottle of water next to you just like dumped it in and you're like, "Here you go." - Yeah, there's a scene where he spills out and he just forced some aqua fiend in there. And he has like the Hawaiian shirt with the white collar just to be a priest that's Hawaiian. - Brother, this is so funny. Oh my gosh, I want to produce your Gary. - He's like a Hawaiian priest. - That'd be funny. I would laugh. - Oh my gosh. That would have made this movie better. - It would. - It just brings some humor into it. - Oh, you got this Bum Hawaiian priest. - Hawaiian priest who drops holy water on everything. Or he could spill it on, like he could drop it on Eliza Dushku in a scene. And then she starts like smoking 'cause she's from Hale, like, you know, next time. It's kind of like a scene where we're like, "Oh man, something's up with her, right?" Like the what? - What? What? It would be like Aloha, my son. - Aloha, my son. - I'm imagining him like Magnum P.I. right now. He said he's a priest. - Oh geez. - Magnum priest investigator of the Gary. He goes up with his collar and his Hawaiian priest. - No, Magnum priest intern. That's what he is. - Oh yes, Magnum priest intern. He's got his old, he's got his old Pontiac vibe. It's risen from the dead at this point. He's cruising around. He's going, "Aloha, my child." Anyway, hey, this has been a great movie. - PG, I'm still glad you're back. I just want to say. - Yeah, we are glad you're back. Let's find out. First lady, movie torture, movie goal. - This is movie torture. I hated this movie so much. I always hate our Halloween series. I have to watch the worst movies this time of year. - Oh my gosh. See, I look forward to our Halloween series. - They're horrible. They're horrible. - Scream three. This movie. - Okay, which is better. This one or scream three? - Oh my gosh. I mean, this one's probably better. - Is it short? - Yeah. - Yeah. - Jacob, movie torture, movie goal. - Oh, this is 100% movie torture. I never want to see this theme again. I don't even want to hear Bob. - Yeah. - Don't speak the name anymore. - But please listeners, please listen to this episode. There's many times as possible. Yeah. PG, movie torture, movie goal. - Oh, this one was torture. I was so bored the whole way. I was bored. I was a movie water boarded. - You were a movie water boarded. - A B-O-R-E-D. - Yeah. - Robins, movie torture, movie goal. - Uh, this was like, um, dabbing a fork in your eye like a hundred times. That would be less painful than this movie. That's how bad this one was. - Yeah. I would say if you want to see Eliza Dushka, if you're like, "I gotta get Eliza Dushka movie in." Just go watch, bring it on one more time, or go watch, um, Buffy. Don't watch this movie. This is a waste of your life. You'll never get this hour and twenty minutes back. - Yeah. - This movie, top ten worst we've done on this show in my mind. This movie is horrible. And it's got a great cast which makes it even weirder that it's this bad. Like, there's a lot of good actors in this cast. And it still is like, hot, flaming garbage. It is terrible. Like, I never want to watch this again. Although we do need to make soul survived. - No. I'm good. I've actually booked the next three months. Won't be able to make that one. - Oh, no. Okay. Hey. For Jonathan, who had to leave if you're wondering, he's not quiet. He had to, he had to leave. Uh, for Minnesota Roger, for First Lady of Movie Torture Hannah, for PG, and for actual Roger. My name is Brad. We'll see you next time on Movie Torture. (upbeat music) ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ Hello, everyone. My name is Ashley R. Pelstein, back. 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