(upbeat music) - Hello, everyone. My name is Ashley, our post-time back, and I am thrilled to announce my new podcast on the Hopecast Network, Locks of Laughs, where I will be chatting with comedians, restaurant tours, and everyone in the entertainment industry about comedy, duh, pop culture, and of course, a little bit of food. You can follow lots of Laughs on Instagram, @locksoflaughspodcast, and Locks of Laughs will be available on Spotify, iTunes, anywhere you listen to podcasts. So, like, follow, subscribe, and I cannot wait to nosh with you. (upbeat music) This is the Hopecast Network. Stories and shows you actually wanna listen to. (upbeat music) (upbeat music) - Welcome, everybody, to another episode of "Movie Torture." You're here with me, Jacob, and always with me, my buddy, Brad. How's it going, Brad? - I like your Roger imitation. - That's pretty good, Minnesota Roger. - I am also here, Jacob. - Oh, I'm gonna get to you, Ashley. We're gonna get to you, she's impatient. She's like, you know what? I was like, do you hear which Brad? And I'm like, I was expecting Brad and... - No, no, I'm literally, you're literally looking at me and you just over cut me out. - Yeah, okay, so that voice you hear, Jacob, this is a momentous moment in "Movie Torture" history today. Do you realize what today is? - No. - This is the first time a lady has been on other than first lady-- - Oh, that's right. - "Movie Torture" Hannah. We have a new lady on the cast. Ashley is joining us. She will be around. You will hear her voice on episode. She loves bad movies and she's been in some. - She's just like that. (laughing) - That actually, it is cold. - I wish that I actually had waited for that intro because that was brilliant, that we didn't like it. I have been in some bad movies. - She's been in some bad movies, which is why we like her even more on here 'cause we only talk about bad movies. You know, Ashley takes the other day and she's like, this movie's terrible. And like, that's the point. That's where we're supposed to be bad. We're not supposed to be watching good movies on here. I'm doing it, he's in it. - And we're also joined by MTD, who says welcome, Ashley. - Yeah, thank you. - He's in the audience, the crowd loves MTD. He is like a cult favorite of the show, but you never hear his voice. His voice is only through typing. He's like Charlie and we're his angels. - Ah, okay, I'm just trying to think of like a horror movie. - Oh, gosh. - Well, Jacob, I don't think we put MTD in a horror movie yet, but we could do that. We've made him a bike cop in our scenarios. We've done a lot of it. - I mean, if we're gonna, I mean, hands down, he's gotta go into, he's the dude from Jigsaw. Like, you never see him, but he's always there. - He's talking crazy, but I feel like we see Jigsaw, though. Like, he comes out on the phone. - Yeah, but the whole stick, the people, the people that he's attacking do not. - Yeah, they don't. So this is what you're gonna hear, Ashley. You've got on the show and now you're gonna hear a movie towards your dad go, hello, Ashley. Would you like to play a game? - Oh my, see. - You're beside two bozos. You have to eliminate one. Who are you eliminating? - Do you actually think you'd be able to like go, like survive a saw type of like experience? - No. - Like, 'cause it like depends what it is. It's like, I haven't, I'm trying to think of like the worst. So I think the worst one, like the most painful maybe is the needle one where she's like thrown into the pit of needles. - Ooh. - It's literally like needle in a haystack, but there's no hay, it's just like needles. - Do you think that's the most painful one? I would think ripping your eye out or the bear claw, the bear trap smashing your head. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, nevermind all of them. But like, I don't remember like, they're all people that have done something bad or something or something. I have to watch it again. I haven't seen it in a while. - He's just trying to help them get a more respect for life and appreciation for the gift of life. - Yeah. - I don't know. - And the moral of this story, Ashley, is if you live in Solville and listeners, if you like Sol, you can go back to our episode in October of last year. We did Saul, gosh, it was like Saul 3D. It was one of my favorite episodes. We actually imagined what John Kramer's life was like outside of Solville. But if you want to live in Solville, Ashley, you've got to act happy all the time. 'Cause then John Kramer, he's not coming after you. If you got a smile on your face and you're walking down the street going, I'm walking on sunshine, he's not bothering you. But if you're walking around pissy, guess what he's gonna do? - Yeah, that makes sense, okay. - You're gonna wake up with a bear trap on your head. Yes, that's how you need to look. - I'm gonna go to Botox just to look like this forever. - MTV, could you be John Kramer in Sol? And would you put one of us in a trap? - Wait, but that's a different question. It's not, would you survive John Kramer? You're asking if you could be the one causing the ruckus? That's a different question. - That is a different question. - That is a different question. - It's a different question. - MTV, could you survive a saw trap? He says, never saw the movie. Do you see saw? - Never saw saw. - Do you see saw? Never, beg him. - Yes. - What movie are we talking about today? - Today we are talking about Friday the 13th, the 2009 edition or remake of what happened right after the first movie. - Okay. - Do you have any, any like box art? What does this movie make? Did we know what this movie made in the box art? - I don't know, actually, I wanna look it up, but it wasn't a remake. It was like a reboot slash sequel because it technically began, like the intro is, and the end, like I put that in quotes 'cause they re-filmed it, but like it's-- - Like the creators that made this was their adaptation of what happened after the movie died, yes. - Right, so it's a sequel, but I will say, I didn't, I saw this in theaters when it came out 15 years ago, and I forgot that Michael Bay had any part in it. - Oh, we're gonna get to that, Ashley. There's so much I wanna talk about with platinum queen. - That's the intro, it's literally like produced or whatever by Michael Bay. - So before we get to that, I do wanna read how much this movie made. This movie brought in on a budget of 19 million, it brought in 65 in America, which is a really good profit. - Wow, wait, that's amazing for me. - Which I'm not surprised. I'm trying to think if I went and saw this in theater, I might've, I'm a horror hound, so I'm gonna go watch it. - Can I, I met Danielle, I didn't meet her. We were in the same casting office once when I first moved out to LA, so I think this must've been like a couple months after I saw the movie, that's the thing. And we didn't meet, she was meeting with someone she knew and I was like, I think I was meeting a first time meeting with someone that I was like introduced to, but it didn't go anywhere for me, I don't know for her. But she, I remember her coming in, me instantly recognizing her, and someone comes out to talk to her and says, I just saw you in a new movie and she goes, oh God, I hope it wasn't Friday the 13th. And I was like, I was like, I didn't say the story, but in my head, I was like, I actually like really, here's the thing. I rewatching it now for this, like in preparation for today's episode, I didn't remember liking it back then as much as I liked it now. - Okay, here's what I find crazy. About the box office real quick. So I was just looking this up. It was the second highest grossed movie in the franchise. Freddy versus Jason was number one. This came in at number two. - And that was actual like pure fill. Like that was terrible. - Oh, you're hurting my soul here actually. - I am, I am, I am, I am, I am, I am. - You're gonna get told, at the end actually, you know at the end, we go around and we go, maybe torture, movie, goal. And that's when you can tell us how you feel. - Yeah, but I will say this, I will say this. Danielle, throwing her nose up at Friday the 13th. When she would go on to starting The Crazies, which was hot garbage, that should be on the show. And then she would go on to start in Piranha three double D. And she was thumbing her nose up two years prior to Friday the 13th. - Yeah, but she's also like on the flash. Like she's now, but was she the only met her? - I mean, she was like, she was like a big time. I saw her in a lifetime movie once in high school. So this is like 20 years ago. And she was a teen mom in it. I really liked it. - She was on year one, an hour sky high. So she had a pretty good, that's a good movie. Mom at 16, is that what you saw in? Mom at 16, oh my gosh. - I liked it. If I was a dad at 16, I would be the worst dad in the whole entire universe. I would be such a correct man. - I think she gives the baby up for adoption to her teacher. Spoiler alert, 20 years later, like I'm pretty sure at the end of the movie, she gives the movie the baby. - So she picked better movies as a kid than she does an adult. And then she called that Flashway, right? And did 184 episodes of The Flash. - So there you go. I mean, 184 or just 84? - 184, she cast some checks. - Oh my gosh. And she did two episodes of Supergirl, five episodes of Arrow. So she's all in that. - I think the DC universe they don't want to acknowledge, right? - Yeah. - Or TV version. - Oh, I guess that's right. They don't like the movie and TV people don't. - Yeah, it's like, if they recast, it's like when they cast The Flash, right? The new one, they put that crazy dude in Ezra. It'd be like them recasting movie torture and not putting any of us in it, but everybody liking us. They should have just used the TV Flash and put him in The Flash. - Yes. - You know what, that's kind of true. And the TV Flash is the one from Glee, right? - Is it? I didn't watch, but like one season of Glee. - I didn't watch any of The Flash. Not that I'm not like, I'm not a big superhero person, I'll be honest. - Me either. I'm not Jacob, are you? - Okay, I used to be, but it's been so outplayed and outdone, I'm, it's now just over with, it's boring. - You could say that about literally any genre. - You could. - Like everything's over done. - The superhero movie has been going like 20 years strong and it's just-- - Yeah, it's too, they went for, like I remember when Brandon Ruth's. - Oh, I remember that. - Superman. - I went and saw that at theater. - I saw it in theaters too, 20 years ago. And I remember for me, that was like, oh, we're bringing superhero movies back and then all the Batman's came out. And Spider-Man was a little bit before that, but it did so. And maybe that was the one that like, actually brought superhero movies back 'cause that was huge. - 'Cause here's the thing, maybe like-- - You're like McGuire playing. - It made like 12 Friday the 13th, but I was excited about everyone. - Yeah, and same for Scream. They make a thousand of 'em and I love 'em. I live for them. - But Marvel movies, I get to like four of them and I'm like, okay, this has been done so much. - It's the same thing. - It's all the same garbage. They just print money. It's like a, it's like a Brinks truck on a movie theater screen, right? - Yeah. - Actually, real quick before we get to this Friday 13th, what do you think about the, did you see that the Joker is getting terrible reviews? - Because, is it getting bad reviews because people didn't know that it was a musical or it's getting bad reviews because it's just not good? - I think both, Jacob and I had a conversation about this. - So I was reading a lot about, like a lot of people are upset because the movie literally takes place just in the courthouse in jail. It goes no further than that. And the rest of it's all just like in their head imagination living out this musical fantasy. - Hmm, so here's my thing. The first Joker, my husband and I show up to it thinking we're seeing like a superhero super villain movie. - Okay. - And, and I don't watch these with my husband. So he begged me, he's like, please, let's go watch this in theaters. I wanna watch it. It was playing an iMac. So we're thinking like, we're going, we're gonna see this, I said fine. I'll go see this with you finally. I'll see a superhero villain movie, whatever. We sit down 10 minutes in. I'm like, this is so upsetting. 20 minutes in, my husband turns to me and goes, I don't think we're in the right theater. I said, we're in the right theater. This is just a depressing Titanic sequel. Like it was, and we walked out of there so upset. And I was like, so, so I'm not the, I'm not seeing Joker too. The acting was phenomenal in the first one, but it's so upsetting that I just, I didn't wanna, I didn't, I'm not putting myself through that again. I'll watch Titanic any day of the week, but I'm not gonna watch the sequel to the Joker. - Isn't it, it is a depressing movie. Is that where he comes in, like shoots Robert De Niro on the set or something, like the talk show? - Yeah, which was surprising in the, like watching it, but like, I understood it. - Yeah. Yeah. He won't ever be against on our show, but we can surely roast his movies. (laughing) - He's a very talented actor, Robert De Niro is a very talented actor. - He is, but I cannot watch his movies anymore. He has turned me off just 'cause he cares so much about politics. And I'm just like, "Hey, dude, just act in front of a screen. You're not that smart, just act." You know what I'm saying? Like, "Sorry, I know you're an actress, Ashman." - No, that's okay. I mean, I, I act like, no, I'm not gonna, yeah. - Anyway, back to this movie. We're back to the Friday 13. Let me do a quick synopsis of what we got here. Kids go to Crystal Lake, get murdered. Boy goes looking for sister, meets creepy people, hangs out at douchebag's house, and they all proceed to get murdered. Jacob, Jason comes back and kills the girl at the end. Blah, blah, blah. It's a Jason movie. I mean, there's a slotted slasher in this movie. This movie takes the gore to the next level. - I don't, I didn't remember it being so gory when I saw it. Granted, I haven't thought about the film since I saw it at theaters 15 years ago, but I, I don't remember it being, I did not remember it being so gory. - Well, well, you see, before we had, we have a cast member of Blumhouse Trent, who comes on every now and then. He's an hater of Blumhouse movies. Before Blumhouse ruined horror, Platinum Dunes was ruining horror. And Michael Bay ruins everything. Like, Texas Chainsaw Massacre, it was terrible. He starts doing these platinum dunes, and they're just, they're, they're too long. This movie should not have been longer than 84 minutes. - How long was it? I don't actually, yeah, it was, it was like a two minute. - It was like an hour and 40 minutes. - It was 85 minutes, no. - It felt, it was, it's another thing, actually. You'll learn about me on this show. I don't like movies past an hour and a half. Like, you give me an hour and a half? I don't like, I pick movies that aren't long, purposely. - Yeah, it depends on the movie for me, but generally speaking, yes. I think an hour and a half movie is ideal. But I also, I hate when there are book adaptations, and they split it up into two movies. I'm like, you're just, you're asking, you are giving us the, I can't, you're, they're being greedy. All right, 'cause they're filming it as one movie. - We can see it. - We can see it. - Exactly like it's being really, really. - If we can sit through the entirety of a live performance, we can sit through one film. - Yes, but let's all agree, let's movie torture. We talk about movie tortures. Let's make a new Jason movie, and let's follow the Joker and make it a musical. - We should. (laughs) - Jason sings. - Yeah. - Oh, they're like, oh, they sing. They're like, do not, do not, do not, do not, do not, do not. - And then he pulls a machete. - And it just, you just chopped my head off. - Well, that's the problem in this movie, Michael Bay made it. So he didn't need a machete. He like took Jason made him everything he wasn't. He was like, Jason on steroids. - Oh my God. - He was definitely the most like, like, a. - He was like a track star. - Yeah, he was like, you were almost kind of like, damn, should we talk, like, like, you want to get a beer? Or, no, you're here to kill me. - But, oh, you beat me. - This Jason would kill the Jason in Freddy versus Jason. - Oh, yeah. - Easy. - Oh my God. - I'm presuming. - You want to hunt him? - And he had amazing aim. When did he have to, the, I mean, the precision. He was like a full on, like, he was a track star. He was everything, he, we, but he is like a creature. He's not a human anymore, right? He is like. - No, he is human. He grew up. - But I thought he lives in the water. Is that enough? - No, no, he's not Aquaman. - He lives in his house, his original house. - Well, then it makes that, that little, yeah, with like the underground tunnel and everything. Yeah, then it makes it even worse because they, he's given these like abnormal, abnormal, muscular abilities. That like just any regular human couldn't have. - Precision axe thrower, precision barcher, like. - Yeah, axe throwing, like what? - Do you see Jason, how many hours you think he spends in the gym during the day before he goes out and does his slashing? - Oh, like a good, like two to three hours, just like doing pushups and like drinking whey, you know. - Is he, is he, is he eating gluten free? - Maybe like, he's plant based. He's plant based in French. - What if he's, he picks the people he kills by the size of them. So if he needs a little more work out today, he's like, yeah, I'm gonna go for a bigger fella today. I need to do some extra with it. - Jay, what if MTD was his trainer? And he was hanging out and MTD was kind of like Mick in the rock in Rocky. And he's like, do it for MTD Jason. I need you to throw that axe a little farther. - He's over there running the stairs in Philadelphia. - You got this, Jason, kids are coming soon. I need you to do some killing. Jason's like, he's doing more MTD Jason. And he's like, I got this man, I got this. Like, and you see the montage of him, like, he's got like people, he's running. - He's going through the dead hanging bodies, like. - No, instead of like, instead of punching the frozen pig meat, he's like punching his frozen bodies. - MTD is like, I got you somebody, Jason. I need you to practice. He's like, but see, then Jason keeps the girl captive and MTD's like, I didn't train you to keep them captive, Jason, I trained you to kill him. - Which is also really weird. - He keeps her captive because he thinks she reminds him of his mom or because she's just wearing the locket. - I think he thinks she's hot. - I think... - No, I don't think, Brad, I do not think that's it. I think it has to do with his mother. I don't think that's it. I don't think he was trying to portray that when he did the movie. I think that's what they were trying to portray 'cause they do that little spoof when he picks up the locket. He's like, oh, she looks just like you and they laugh and he's like, keep it. And then, yeah, so I think that's what... - We're supposed to get from that? Oh my gosh. - Yeah, absolutely. That's exactly what we're supposed to get. - That's literally exactly it. - The first Friday of the 13, in what, 1979, was 1980? - 1984. - No, it was '80. It was early. It wasn't '84. It was '80. - I think it was 1980 or 1981. I think you're right, it's 1980. Let me see. - The first Friday of the 13th was so good because it wasn't... - 1980, it's 1980. - '90s. - It wasn't gory. And it was scary because his mom is doing the killing. - That's right. So that's... Have you seen in Scream where they ask who the killer is? On Friday, the killer, Ghostface, asks on the phone. Like, let's... - Oh yes, it is. - Scream is by the way my favorite horror franchise is. - So... - Oh, Sydney. - No, I think Scream is phenomenal. I watched the 1990, I think it's 1996, 1997, I watched that movie like before, but I think it's... I think it's a phenomenal, farcical horror film. I love it. I adore it. I'm the biggest. - It is great. - Back to this, which I forgot the point it was gonna make. - Oh, right. In that, in Scream, and one of the... I think it's the first one, it could be the one with Kirby though, but I think they were just... Going back to it, they ask who's the killer in the original Friday of the 13th? And the person on the phone says... Jason, Jason, I win. He goes, "Uh-uh, you've got it wrong, it's actually Jason's mother. Looks like you have to die." And everyone thinks that Jason is the original killer. Isn't that funny? - It is 'cause he's iconic. In the second movie, he starts his killing, but MTD's like, "I trained your mother and she made a stupid mistake. She got over to Zealous." - Oh, wow, I just remembered Kevin Bacon's in the original, in the original Friday of the 13th. I loved Kevin Bacon. - Ashley, Jacob, I like the idea of a movie where MTD is training villains to be like horror villains. I think that would be a funny comedy where you show up to be a horror villain and he's got a crash course, kind of like major pain. - Excellent. - Yes. (laughing) - But, you know, I actually think it would be really cool to like, to make it kind of like a reality show, but like, you can't go about killing people, but like, who's the next super villain? But you can't really kill anybody on TV. - And you get voted off as you're not competing, like. - Right, yeah. (laughing) - Or like, your plan was figured out, therefore you cannot be the super villain because you didn't like, hide better, you know what I mean? So you voted off the island or whatever. - They have like, they have like, maybe torture dad brings in like special guests every now and then to vote people off and he's like, tonight we have Laurie Strode. She's gonna be voting and she always votes Michael. (laughing) No, Laurie, you can't vote Michael. He's got immunity. - Too late, too late, too late. - I like the immunity challenge. Who can kill the most in like three minutes? - Well, the thing is Ghostface would lose each time if you're comparing Ghostface to Michael, who is not a human, right? Michael's not actually human. He comes back from the dead. He's not human. He's a human in the original. - But not in the, I think, in the full, there was a Halloween where the doctor said something and I'm misquoting what he's like. He is so bad he must go to hell, but hell wouldn't accept him or something like that. And it's-- - Are you talking about Donald Pleasance? - Yes. - Yeah, and he keeps coming back. - Yeah. - Yeah. - Michael. - Michael. - But Ghostface is scarier looking, in my opinion, but Michael Myers would get him. And I think Jason would also get Ghostface. Ghostface is just a human and it's usually a teenager, except for In Scream 2. And Scream 3, actually. - What about the chainsaw master? - No, no, they win everything because it's a bunch of people with chainsaws. And they support Leatherface. So they're gonna win because you're in a lose-lose there. You're not 'cause they only support blood. That's part of the Texas chainsaw thing. - But I think Freddy gets into your dreams and that's pretty powerful. - Yeah, he's pretty powerful. - It is. - I mean, if we're including, yeah. Freddy's-- - And Pinhead, he's like straight from hell, from Hellraiser. - And, oh, you know what, I haven't seen that. But I mean, if we're going crazy, talk about the exorcists. Like, there you go, everybody's gone. - Yeah, true. What about a house of a thousand corpse? Those people are crazy. - They're crazy too. - Yeah, yeah. - You need Rob Zombie is pretty gross. - I just freaked myself out now, by the way. It's like I look. - Anyway, back to this movie. So in the beginning, we're introduced to, what, five teenagers, five campers. - Five because there's that one solo dude that's obsessed with the weed and then the two couples. - Yeah. - And they immediately get to the banging. I mean, they ain't waiting. - That's what sounds like. Every woman's bosom is like, so perky. I was like, who, what, where, when, why? Like, I just, I look in the mirror and I don't see the same thing. I wonder why. I mean, there are 15 years younger than me. But, like, they're in a Friday the 13th movie. But he comes in and he does some slaying. And you're like, I knew, Ashley, I knew. I knew that we were, these were not gonna be the cast we were following. - Sure. - Yes, they were too unlikable to follow. And, and, but here's the thing, the other, the cast that we did follow, many were unlikable, but they had the very specific generic horror tropes. Which, that's fine. I don't mind that. You know, you have like the sweet, virginal character, which is Danielle Panabaker. You have the striking, tall, kind man, which was supernatural, dude. - Wait, you're talking about the next cast we meet at. - No, yes, but, but I'm just, I'm, I'm saying that the movie itself, they incorporated all that in that cast. The first cast, most of them except for the chick and maybe her boyfriend, were not particularly likable. None of them were. Here's the thing. - The first Jason, the first Friday the 13th movie ever, I'm like, all of you deserve it. Like, you weren't rooting for any cast, the member you're like, you all deserve this. Like the first part of this cast, the first cast you get it, we learned that Jason is an avid gardener and they were messing with his garden and he was upset. So he had to exact his revenge to protect his garden. And that's how it caused that. But like, this is the first Friday the 13th I've ever watched where you're like, you're almost rooting for Jason. You're like, get them all. - Oh my gosh, I'm with you, Jacob. Ashley, I did not find any of those guys likable. I wanted all of them to get an arrow to the head. - In the first group? - No, the second group. - Both group, both group. - I didn't like it. - In the second group, I liked, I liked Supernatural Dude, what's his name again? - No, no. - They came out, he was the only likable one, right, Jacob? - Yeah, he was likable. - But he was swayed by the girl. - Somewhat likable. I don't think- - But is that sense that whole thing, like this whole plot of like, that whole cast goes and that leads off to this, like he's now in it because he's trying to find his sister. Well, just. - Well, it makes no sense that you would leave in the middle of the woods with a man you've never met, just because you have a fight with the guy that you're supposedly dating, but you're not actually dating, like it- - Were they dating because he definitely cheated on her? - No, that's a big twist. That's a big twist that movie, because they played off in the very beginning that they're dating, like they make it very clear that they're together. And then in that scene, she's like, okay with it. They're like, we're not dating, it's really weird. - Well, she had other things going on. There was a man trying to kill them. - That's true, maybe that's true. - But I will say at the beginning, they made it seem like he wanted to be more physical with her and she was like, let's go on a hike. And he was like, okay, well, you get me a beer. Like, so they, I think they were together, but he wanted it to be more of like a sexy relationship. And she was like, I wanna get to know you. - He, she wanted, she wanted talkie talks and he wanted like, you know, bedtime stories. - Mm-hmm. - Yeah, but when we meet them in the gas station, I don't understand, I don't know why anyone is as rude as that guy is, like this poor guy's about to cry. He can't find his sister and the guy's like, hey man, we wouldn't ring our stuff up. It's amazing he didn't get punched in the face. - Yeah, that's so incredibly true. I just wanna say one more thing about the first group of people that are murdered before they go into the actual storyline of this film. I judge a lot about a movie, whether it's horror or not, about the introduction and then the title when they put the title on the screen. And I have to say, as much as we're just completely devouring this film, like I actually really enjoyed the intro because it was cool. It was, it wasn't just like right away at the beginning. That was a good like 15 minutes of the film. Like that was a short film in itself, that intro. - It was like the longest intro to a movie ever. - But that's what, but that's what I'm saying. It's a very long intro and I dug it 'cause I was like, how interesting. I would think that they would put the title card and they didn't do it. And then of course they did. It was just after a 15 minute introduction of horrific death, like horrific death. - What's a cool, what's a movie where you really enjoyed the intro? Like it's probably a great intro. - All of the Harry Potter's. - Okay. - And the intro's kind of changed because in the first few you have a scene and then the intro will number one, you do. Number two, I don't think you do. Number three, you do. So at number four, you do. So those intros are phenomenal. I love when there's a scene and then the intro. But sometimes like back in the 90s, I feel like they just did like a full on title card and then went into the movie. - Well, there's a movie I like and I watched it first part of this year again. I went to theater and saw it back in '98. Have you ever seen the movie Snake Eyes with Nicholas Cage? You've been in Nicholas Cage movie. So it doesn't have as much of a cold following as Snake Eyes, but. - It doesn't. But Snake Eyes is good and the first, I think it's the first 30 minutes is one long scene, camera scene, like it is an amazing intro. Like you're following him through this Atlantic City arena right before a boxing match. It's an amazing intro. I just, and if anybody's listening, go watch Snake Eyes, watch the first like 15, 20 minutes amazing the way Brian De Palma made that intro. Now he senses the director. - I think Wes Craven did a great job for Scream because that intro is awesome. - Oh, that is iconic. - It is. - It is. - I think that's amazing. The Back to the Future intro is amazing too. Where Marty wakes up and then he goes to Doc's. - I hate to interrupt what you're doing now, but something very important I need to let you know about. When you purchase serious coffee beans, we want you to try to enjoy each brew for two reasons. Number one, because you're a part of something bigger, making a positive impact around the world. And number two, because we did not compromise on the quality of coffee, you're drinking some of the best coffee in the world. 100% of profits are donated to nonprofits that are fighting injustice facing humans around the world, Wallace. That's powerful. Generous is best known for especially coffee, but the heartbeat of generous is their hope to use for profit business for good. In 2024, generous is hoping to provide coffee to churches around the US to spread a message within congregations that churches care about people even down to the coffee they are serving and the people they enjoy. I apologize for that extremely long run-on sentence. If you have interest in hearing more about generous coffee, please reach out to their founder, Ben Higgins, at binhiggins@generismovement.com. Thank you. And back to our scheduled podcast. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And you know, so that's a good interest. There's a lot of good interest, but I do like the horror interest where it gets the slasher and then it cuts to black and you're like Friday the 13th. - Yeah, I love it. - But I do think Michael Bay should have made this more of an actual camp movie where we get kids coming to camp and then JC doing some slasher things. - Yeah, I think it would be cool to maybe remake the 1980 version. Like don't, or maybe not even remake just like redo, just like do it again. I don't know, I guess do it again is a remake. I don't know because I feel like remakes or everybody's doing remakes right now, but I also think that would be awesome, right? Don't you, I kind of miss, I hate when people are trying to like, oh, this is the next big thing. We're gonna snowball on this one. We're gonna double this one. Like sometimes we just want a great rom-com where it's very predictable. Sometimes we want a great horror movie where it's very predictable. I don't need like 16 and a half like M Night Shyamalan movies. I love M Night Shyamalan, but like I don't need a bunch of twists and turns in order for me to be like, oh, that was creepy. - Does he still do the twist? I haven't seen Trap, is it any good? - Yeah, I saw Trap. - Yeah, it's very good, yeah. - Does he have a twist? - Yes. - Okay, I'm gonna have to watch it. - Yeah, I mean, this might be one of his like biggest, like biggest twists actually. - Okay, should you tell me, I'm gonna go watch this. - I'm gonna go watch the six cents. But you know, I've recently watched the six cents again and even knowing that Bruce Willis is dead the whole time, you're watching it and you're kind of like, yeah. You still don't, it doesn't, it still hits you in the end. You're like, oh fuck, I knew, I knew it. I knew that he was dead the same time. - You knew it, I didn't know it. I went to theater and didn't even figure it. I was like, oh my gosh, he's dead. - Not the first time I'm saying, now I'm watching it all the way through again. - Oh yeah, yeah. MTD, have you seen an M Night Shyamalan movie? And how have we not had an M Night Shyamalan movie, own movie torture? - That is amazing to me. - Oh yeah. - He's never seen a M Night Shyamalan movie. There's some good ones, like I couldn't wait for the village. And then when I saw it, I was like, oh, this movie sucked. - It's a slow movie. I kind of wanna watch it again now as an adult, but it was slow. I remember watching it thinking it would be really scary and it was just, it was like little red riding hood slow. - Yeah, signs was not good. Lady in the water was not good. - Yeah. - The happening was horrible. That had, oh Jacob, you know who started that movie, right? - Who? - Mark Wahlberg. Come on, give more COVID here. Come on with the Wahlberg, I get your booger. - I started that movie, guys. - Hey, I started that movie, man. Come to play.com, man. I'll pray for you. - All the listeners know actually that Mark Wahlberg is one of my favorite actors. He make, all his movies I love, like they're just so dumb, but they're fun to watch. Like he genuinely looks like he's having fun. - Yeah, I love him. - Although I haven't seen the Netflix one with him and Hallie Berry yet, I haven't seen that. - I literally didn't even know it exists. - Yeah, Jacob and I had a conversation about it 'cause they're like, he goes, oh, this is our Husker 25th High School reunion. And I'm like, hold on a second. Y'all are both like pushing 60 at this point. How are y'all 25 years out of high school? - It should be. - Wait, is it really? They're going to their 25th High School reunion? - Yes, yeah. - Thank you. It's so dumb. - I mean, it was a good movie. - It should have been your 25th out of grad after graduating like your doctorate. - Like I've been out of high school for 15 years. They're not only 10 years older. I've been out of high school for 27 years. So I would have already passed them. I'm not, oh, Hallie Berry's like 60. - Is she really? - Oh my gosh, she's gotta be. - Yes, yes, yes. - You retort your dad. When you look up, let's move towards your dad. We look up Hallie Berry's age while we talk. - She's 58, you're right. - Oh, 58. Yeah, she's close to 60. - She looks great. - Yeah, anyway. I love how we've talked about (laughing) but moved, but. - Oh, right, right, right, right. So back to Friday the 13th. - Okay, so two uncharacterist things about what they did with Jason in this movie. They just ruined it, ruined the movie. I'll just put that out there. One, he keeps the girl alive, which is not adjacent trait. Two, he gets the guy, her brother, full grasp and doesn't kill him and lets him live. - How is that? - That don't happen either, 'cause he pulls him out the bus. - Oh, wait, he drops her. He literally drops him, right? - Well, no, yeah, he starts like bashing his face into the bus and beating him up, but he doesn't kill him. Like, come on. - But even before that, when she says, "Jason." - That's right. - And he drops him. So you're right, he had two actual opportunities, two kills. Jared had a lucky, that's his name. Whoa, whoa, there he goes. And he didn't, you're absolutely right. It's completely, completely not a Jason characteristic. To keep something alive, how dare he? - He's like, that's a jigsaw characteristic, Ash. That's what we were talking about today. Like, he's like in the John Kramer school of jigsawing. - Yeah, I guess that's true, yeah. I did think while watching it that it felt, it felt very jigsaw-y, like the murders did. They felt very, oddly specific and planned out, which like, he doesn't plan on this. But I do, it did, one thing did cross my mind, I found it odd. So they're all, the second group of kids, they're all staying at this guy's summer house. Are you, you're telling me that he stayed there for how old are these guys? Are they in college? We'll call, we'll say they're about 20, everybody 21. - Sure, yeah, yeah, they're like 21, 22, yeah, oh yeah. - You're saying for the last 20 plus years, he's gone out to this house, gone out on the lake, 'cause he has a boat, he's gone on hikes, he's done all of this stuff in and around Jason Voorhees, and he's never once heard of Crystal Lake and the killings, or has been attacked by Jason. It makes no sense that he's been out there. - That's actually the best point that we've ever made on this show before, like, how did that not come to you and I, Jacob? 'Cause I was like, because let's be real, this dude has brought many a girl to this cabin. I mean, oh. - But also he's been going there as a kid with his parents. - Yeah, and he's like, the boat is mine, don't ride the boat. I mean, of course, when you tell somebody not to do so. - Oh, dude, you're gonna get on the boat. - I mean, I'll be driving the boat. - And the one thing we've learned about Jason in his many movies is he does not like immorality, so he will end your life quickly. - Oh, of course you go. Did you know that was Willa Ford? - What has she been in? - I think she's the singer that I wanna be bad with ya, baby. You know that song? Ah, ah. - If I knew that or Jacob knew that, that would be hilarious. - I'm pretty sure that's her. And she, I actually looked her up, 'cause I saw her name, like, within the credits when they were doing the intro. And I was like, Willa Ford, how do I know that? So I looked her up and it brought me-- - And TV says he loves that song, by the way. - It's a good song. - Oh, I wanna be bad. But I, on Friday the 13th, like, fandom, it says, Willa Ford, status of the character she plays, deceased, cause of death, impaled through the head with a machete by Jason Voorhees. Like they give such specifics. - They do. - Oh, she played Chelsea. (laughing) That's it, that's it. (laughing) - It's MTV's ringtone. (laughing) - I know that he wakes Jason up, he's like, he turns on, I wanna be bad, Jason. We're gonna be doing some training. That's how Jason knows is I wanna be bad. - That's, yeah, that's Jason's like theme song. (laughing) But, I had no, it was crazy that she was like, she did a good job. - Yeah, did I read on the internet movie database that she did not know how to do the knee boards? And she had to learn how to do that. I love the useless. - A budget right there. - Yeah, like, what do you think the directors like, hey Willa, I'm gonna need you to take your top off when you go on the back over here. I mean, it's like. - Yeah, there was so much more nudity than I expected. I mean, three different chicks took their tops off. - Yeah, I mean, when you sign up for this, let me ask you actually, when you sign up to be in a movie, when you're reading over the rules, do they have a box that says nudity, no nudity, and you check it? - I mean, I've never had to check a box for any form of an audition or anything like that, but I will say that when you're auditioning for something and there is nudity, they do let you know and it'll either say something like only submit if you're comfortable with this, or it'll say something like implied nudity, which isn't full on nudity, just like the removal of a bra, but your back is showing, or it'll also say, I actually recently saw something and it was from my agent and it said something like, it said amount of, there is nudity, there is at least topless nudity in this project amount of nudity can be determined and discussed between director and actor. So that was, it was actually like a very respectful way to say like, if you're not comfortable at least removing your bra, then and showing like your body don't even audition. So I'm sure she, I'm sure they were made aware that they'd have to be, topless because it wasn't just implied. I mean, we saw everything and that sex scene was wild, but all this nudity was useless, like it wasn't needed to make, not even at all, it was odd. What is it called when it's just like odd, gratuitous nudity, gratuitous. I thought it was called Cheesecake. Oh, I don't know, but I did read Michael Bay, got up and walked out of the screening. It's what it says on the internet, the movie daddy said he got up, walked out because he did not realize that they were making it so nudity, so much nudity in the movie. He was disgusted by the nudity. - Well, the first one with the really unlikable kids, that was just, it was like, it was a first because I started playing that like, that like 1970s, like bound-chick-a-wow-wow music, it literally sounded like bound-chick-a-wow-wow. And it was like, she was rubbing oil on her, which she would, like, she was rubbing it all over her chest. Like, you would never in the middle of the woods rub oil on yourself, like none of it made sense. And also, she was taking her top off behind the back of this best friend, and yet when she thought he was creeping on her later, while they were actually doing the deed, she covers herself up as if like, she wasn't just bare, like, bearing it all before. - This movie makes zero sense, but there's actually something in the news. I'm glad we brought this up 'cause there's something in the news I saw today. And this is basically, it says, Andrew Garfield. - Okay. - Says, "Sex scene with Florence Pugh," what is she, I don't know what she's been in, I don't know what she's been in. - She's very famous. - We live in time, went a little bit further than intended. We never heard cut. - And then it goes on to say that the cameraman, it got so heated, the cameraman stopped filming and turned away while they were doing it. - I don't understand. So he's saying they had actual, like, they like, fornicated or-- - I think that's what he's mean. I, which is weird, I mean, is he married? Does he married? - No, he's dating someone. - Well, I mean, I would be mad if I was that someone. - Well, maybe they'll break up. - Per Florence Pugh, is she married? - I don't think she's married. - Florence Pugh was my, was movie torture dad's favorite actress. (laughing) - She didn't even know who she is, I don't even know. - I, I don't, I don't really, usually there is a, like, a coordinator on set that will like, I love her, you said I love her. Usually there is a, like some form of like a physical coordinator. I forget the exact term on set that will, like, they actually direct the, the sex scene, you know, so it's very mechanical and it's not like passionate, but I mean, I don't know, I, I guess if you're, I don't know what happens if you're method? Like, and you're just like, we have to, I don't know, we got to do it. - I have seen a Florence Pugh movie though. That's the one with Harry Styles. - Oh yeah, I saw that. I forgot the name, but-- - Dreamy, darling, something darling. - Oh, my dart, forget my-- - Something, but, but here's the thing, what if that was your job, Jake? - Yeah. - Kristen, what's your job, Brett? Well, I direct the sex scenes and the movies. That's what I do. - So I'm going to be single one time. - Today, I'm Florence Pugh and Andrew Garfield coming in for a quickie. I mean, what-- - I mean, hey, whatever makes you the big bucks. It's a respectable gig though. Like you're protecting, you're protecting like the actors. - Well, whatever they had during this, if he's like, how he went too far. - They didn't have one, I don't know. But intimacy, in intimacy coordinator, I think it's called intimacy coordinator. I think that's-- - Yeah, and it's funny about like, I read another article that called my eyes, to me more is in a new movie called The Substance, which sounds like a really cool movie. - Yeah, it looks good. - It looks good. I think it's where like, she gets to take a pill, Jacob, and be young again for life. But she has to like, take it again, she has to go back to her normal self at the end of the day, right? - Well, I haven't seen all of it. I've seen a couple clips on TikTok, which is why I want to see the whole movie. My understanding is that like she is like an aging actress or a talk show host and she goes on a date and she doesn't like the way she looks. She thinks she's aging poorly and she is given a random opportunity to like, I don't know if it's a pill or if it's like an injection or something. But her younger self crawls out of her skin but has her memories? I don't know, I could be mistaken. - It's a horror movie, right? - It's a horror movie. - I feel like it's gonna be one of those horror slash, like not like horror, like rear window, where it's not, it's not horror, it's more like, I don't know, like intellectually stimulating but like, I don't know, I haven't seen it but I don't know if it's gonna be like jump scare horror. - Well, they say this is like an award-winning performance from her. - I bet. - She hasn't like, but you know, the whole thing about it is she went full frontal for a long time in this movie. - Well, didn't she do that in... - Stricties? - Yeah. - I don't know, I never saw that movie but I would assume she probably did. No, I don't know. - I don't know, I don't know, I never saw that movie but that's why she's getting the, it's just weird. Hollywood's weird on that stuff, man. - Yeah, I like it, you show it all, you're gonna get an Oscar nom. - And they really switched to dudes doing it more now. Like, it's a dude thing. Like, did either one of y'all see wild things? - Whoa, from the 90s with Nev Campbell? - With Nev Campbell who I have made perfectly known on this podcast, she's one of the worst actresses in Hollywood, I cannot stand her movies. - Stop, I told you how much I love Scream, don't do this. - No, no, Scream is great but it's without her. Scream is good without her. - No, no, no, stop, stop, stop. - Ashley. - The point of Scream is that you don't get rid of the OG. - You don't but I've seen you real, you're a way better actor than Nev Campbell. - Oh my God, thank you. - You should have been in party five. But anyway. - I love that movie, that shows so much. - Anyway, it's like in wild things, were you not surprised at the end? When Kevin Bacon shows Little Bacon. - Oh, I thought you meant like the twist at the end. Oh yeah, I was surprised at that. Yes, because I mean, I watched it when it had been, it was on like, I don't know HBO or something, like I obviously didn't see it when it came out, I think it came out in the early 90s. But I, yeah, I guess I was, back then it was more shocking to have that much provocative. - Oh yeah, yeah. - Like nudity. Now though, every TV show on Netflix, they're naked. So it's not really that, I feel like since Game of Thrones where every, or like true blood where just nudity was just thrown at you. And it was great, I didn't mind it, but now like there's, it doesn't, it's not considered taboo, it's not considered weird. It's almost more noticeable when you're not taking your top off. - I love how we spent Friday 13 talking about nudity in movies. Okay, as we round this movie out, because this movie, there's not much to talk about, there's a lot of killings, right? And I do wanna say the dude is very, like I would not wanna go to his house 'cause he's like, you need to, I feel like he is the toaster guy. You know, there's people who go to house, you need to put the drink on a coaster. Oh, no, it's on my table, or take your shoes off when you're in her house. Like that's weird to me. - Who are you talking about? - They got it, he's like, he doesn't wanna leave 'em 'cause he's gotta make sure that they're not dirtying up the house. And I'm like, why don't you even bring them here? I think she said that. - He brought them there simply to show off his wealth and who his stuff he's got, that's why he brought them. - That's why, yeah, for sure. - He brought them there so he could hook up with her. That's the real goal, right? - But then he's an idiot because you wouldn't bring your girlfriend who's maybe a little shy and isn't comfortable with you yet with a group of people. You would take her to a nice dinner and then maybe try something at the end, but she'll say no, and then you try again for a couple months. He's an idiot if he thinks, oh no, this is what's gonna get her. We're gonna go to a secluded cabin in the woods, get hammered, and then she's gonna fall in love with me. It makes no sense. - He just wanted to show off his wealth. - Exactly. - Oh, look at my money. But I, so pretty much Jacob and I understood all of the themes in this film, and Brad got none of it. - I was even, I was even, I was even confused at like, when they go to, when he goes to the ladies door to show his sister, and she's like, yo, she's dead. She's dead, you need to get out of here. I'm like, why don't you just be honest and say there's a guy that's killing people around here. - Yeah, well, they didn't make it, so she knows that Jason exists, and Jason must know she exists because she knows, and they just like live their merry lives separately. - They have a control understanding. - Yeah, like they don't explain that. They also don't explain the random killing of the dude in the, in the body shop. Where, like the one who had the Playboy. - Oh, okay, we, I'm so glad you brought that up. - I was the dude, number one though, real quick. Number one, they do, because again, Jason is an avid gardener in that man's messing with his garden, so he must go. - Yeah, but they had to set the scene up with the hockey mask too, that had to find it. - Oh, yeah, but he could have found it in the shed when he was killing one of the drunken kids, but I guess you're right. - He could have, which would have been cooler. - They set that up. - That guy was weird, and he needed to go. - That guy needed to go. - It just didn't make sense, like that guy, the entire character, like I get it, you're wanting us to think that you're in like, podunk somewhere, and you know, like it was weird, and he's like touching the mannequin and saying this weird, like it was so weird. - But here's the thing, I knew it as soon as I seen it, all they were doing is why he's in there, is to set up the wood chipper where Jason's final demise comes into play. That's all I look for. - Okay. - But also, he's about to Andrew Garfin, Florence Pugh, that mannequin, let's be real. - That's what we're gonna call everything now. - Yeah. - It's like, MPD was like, "Indeed Jason, they stole your mannequin, put it, put it." - MPD, have you seen Wild Bang? You didn't answer. He hasn't answered, he must've fell asleep. - And then we experienced Jason getting fashion sense, 'cause he's like, "Oh, this mess looks much better than my cloth bag "of a word on my head." - Well, I mean, Jason, he has seen this. Oh my God, wow, I didn't even think so. But Jason's supposed to be minimally challenged, right? Like in the original-- - Yes, he's not, he's smart in this movie. He's like a cat setting you up in a trap. - Yeah, yeah, all of those traps too, I don't remember that being like original Jason, like the foot claw thing, which by the way, that's in almost like every horror movie now. Definitely from Saw, but like, that was brutal. - I think the worst in this, all of them were horrible, but the burning alive was, - I think it's a hard way to go burning alive. - I think that might be like the worst way, 'cause it's slow. I mean, they-- - I think drowning would be horrible, though. - Of course, it's all bad if you're, you know, like-- - Nothing swallowing water and choking would be horrible. - It's true. - But worse than being burned? - I feel like with burns, you would pass out quick. Like, (gasping) M-T-D, burn or drown, go. What are you trying to chase the dude with-- - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. - Burn or drown. - He didn't drown anybody. - He says burning would be worse, okay. - Yeah, I kind of agree. I think drowning would be, look, it's all bad, but I think burning's probably the longest, 'cause they cut it short for her. - She, when the cloth opened and she like came out and she was already dead, I don't think she would have been dead yet. I think she had a lot more, I mean, it's torture. Yeah, you would feel it. Like at some point when you're drowning, doesn't the water like enter your brain and you pass out, right? - I would rather just a machete slice my head off. - I guess that's the way I go, yeah. Just kill me like that. - Well, this piece-- - Or like we could all live long lives with our loved ones and just like-- - Yeah, sure. - Well, with Jason, he had that big like power swing machete thing going on, so it would have been real quick. - No, Jason worked out. Like his bod was like on point. Like I don't want to take away from the ground, but like Jason's body was like, he, P90Xed it, all right. - Do you think Jason's on Tinder? - I hope he said, I'm married. Like that would be, that, I mean, I'm going to Salem in two weeks and Salem, Massachusetts. And they have like people, I think I actually, I'm gonna send you after this. I mean, I have a photo of like a dude dressed up as Jason, but it's very clearly Jason from 2009 because he's like big and brawny. - Oh, I want to see that. You had to send that to me. - Oh, I'll send it to you. They just walk around the town. There was one guy dressed as Michael Myers who held, who had like music coming from his pocket. It was the theme, like dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah. And he was just walking around very slowly. It was awesome. Cause you actually thought you were in the movie and you were about to, you know, you had to run. It was really cool. - Okay, do we have, I have some Amazon reviews. Jacob, you have any reviews you want to read? - Go ahead, you got this. - Okay, you got this. - You trust me. - Okay, here we go. Here are some five stars from, oh my gosh. Wasn't, this is from Steffi Lynn. Jacob, was this written in this year? - What? - I'm saying this was written in 2020, June of 2024. - This was written September 18th, 2024. I mean, we're talking weeks ago, this person decided to sit down and write a review about Friday the 13th from 2009. Steffi Lynn says, "Wasn't too keen on the woman who plays his mom, "wasn't the same without Betsy Palmer, "but it was a good movie, came super quick." Okay. - Came super quick? - She bought a movie, she told about buying it. - Oh, okay. - This is August 16th, 2024 from R.B. Dean Webb, Jr. An excellent remake of the hard classic. - That's not a remake. - Oh, and this is from, this is 2023, March 30th, from Kitty Love, 765, Kitty Love, hey, they like cats. - Yeah, we're so good. - Enjoyable watch for slasher fans, not suitable for kids. As fan of a slasher flick, I enjoyed this take on Jason in the 21st century. The actor playing Jason may be the best part, even though Jason never played him, even though Jason never speaks. The actor did a great job. For parents, I would not recommend this for children. It's extremely graphic. - Oh, it's really-- - It's really-- - It's what Jason will be, it's convenient for kids. - MTD, can we make a Jason movie, rated G for the family? - But it just makes, it just go off of the rating. It's rated R, and then like even if you don't know the premise of it, like go off of the cover, which is a scary man holding a bloody machete with, and his face is covered. - It goes back to our conversation, Ashley, about what's that movie with John Travolta that we talked about, savages? Remember, we talked about stuff-- - You know what, you're like with John Travolta, like, I think. - The savages, remember I told you when we looked at the movies that my wife and I were went to see savages and this lady brings in like a four-year-old to watch it. - Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. - Oh my gosh, it is a brutal. - It was so dirty. - It was. - Ashley, movie torture, movie gold. - What? - Which one is this movie torture, or is it movie gold? You gotta learn the ropes, you're gonna learn. - Sorry, sorry. I think it's movie gold, I'm as bad as it is, it makes it, it makes it good. Like, you can watch it once every 15 years and be okay. But how many movie, like how many movie tortures and movie golds do I get a year? You know what I mean? - You can have as many as you want. - Yeah. - So then I don't dish them out very often, do I, Jacob? I've been on a streak of dish and amount lately though. - You have been. - I would characterize it as movie gold. I thought the jump scares were decent, the use of sound was decent. Did it make a lot of sense? No, but you know, I dug it, I dug Jason. - Jacob, mayor of Neil Bogg, movie torture, movie gold. - This is without a doubt 100% movie torture and the only thing that would have made this better was a machete coming into my head 'cause this was, it was so bad. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. - Actually, NTD is letting you know you can go silver sometimes or movie bronze. - Okay, movie bronze. - You can do movie bronze if you want. - I'll give it movie bronze, I'll give it that. - Well, you've already given a movie gold though. - Yeah, you're gonna gold. - You gotta stick with your gold. - All right, I'll give it movie gold, but I have a suggestion for another episode. We'll bring that up when we record. I'm gonna give this movie torture, this movie, the filming, the camera was crappy. I could not even make out the faces, the lighting was horrible in this movie. - The lighting was bad, the lighting was bad, but I, you know, it's 15 years old and I thought it was part of the style, I don't know. - Maybe it's a dirty movie, it made me feel gross watching it. It makes you wanna go watch the 1980, Friday the 13th or part two or part three, or even Jason goes to space. I would bet that I would venture to say this that one's better than this. - Jason did. - No, probably. - This movie sucked, this is a terrible movie. I never wanna watch it again. But I will say this, I will say this. I'm a hater of Halloween ends. I hate that ball and mouse movie, it was horrible. - Yeah, I got it. - You can listen to that episode, we have it. I would watch this over Halloween ends, only because it's shorter. That's the only reason. - No, I would watch it because Halloween ends had no plot and he just is going into random houses and killing but nothing explains why he's going into them. So I have thoughts on that. I thought it was horrible. - And the band is making fun of the guy, the band geeks are making fun of the guy. It is really-- - Yeah, it's just terrible. - It was a terrible movie. - It was a terrible film. I agree with that. - Ashley, you crushed your first ever episode of movie torture. You'll be back for Troll 2, so we're excited about that. - I already have my room for that. For Ashley, who hosts lots of laughs on the Hopecast Network, you can find her every other Friday on our network. She has so many good guests coming up. Your lineup is amazing. And she just keeps bringing good guests. She's incredible. We're so glad she wants to actually waste some time hanging out with us. - And T.E. listens. - Yeah, he listens to everything. - You and my mom and dad, thank you so much. - And your husband, does he listen? - He does, actually. He listens at the gym. - Okay, good. - And I'm lucky my husband goes to the gym a lot. - Yeah, you're lucky because he can crush him. He just listens a lot of episodes. - Yeah, he could take down Jason. - Oh, we should have that fight. Ask him if he could beat Jason. We're just gonna need M.T.D. to train him. - Yeah, I'm gonna ask him right now, can you beat Jason? He doesn't like horror movies, he might not even know who he is. - Well, for my good friend Jacob, my name is Brad. We will see you next time on "Movie Torture." (upbeat music) (upbeat music) (upbeat music) (bell dings)
